1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,200 You're listening to the back home network presented by home 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:22,000 field apparel, welcome back to Crimson Cass Galen, Claudia 3 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,100 Jordan, you Friday, football preview, it is the 4th of 4 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:27,800 November. Happy November everybody. 5 00:00:28,700 --> 00:00:34,600 As we get ready for the ending, portion of the IU football 6 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:40,400 schedule, as it gets closer and closer and it's hard to believe 7 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:42,500 that. I you finds itself back in the 8 00:00:42,500 --> 00:00:45,600 position that they're in again here, three and five, 9 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:51,000 essentially needing to win three out of their last four games to 10 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,700 officially get boiled ability. They could technically be Bowl 11 00:00:54,700 --> 00:00:58,700 eligible. 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That you did. 42 00:02:29,500 --> 00:02:33,600 Alright, let's set the scene for this weekend's game. 43 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,100 Indiana taking on the Penn State Nittany Lions. 44 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:39,200 Penn State comes into this game 16th in the country. 45 00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:42,500 And it's been, you know, if there was an archetype for a 46 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:46,500 Penn State season, this has been it, you know, they struggled a 47 00:02:46,508 --> 00:02:48,300 little bit on the road at Purdue, but they ended up 48 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:51,400 winning that one. They've been pretty dominant in 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,500 most of their other games. And then, of course, they've 50 00:02:55,500 --> 00:02:59,000 gotten blown out by Michigan. And then they, Tide against 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,500 Ohio, State at home, and then eventually lost because that's 52 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:05,900 what they do against Ohio State, and so Penn State once again, 53 00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:10,300 clearly the third best team in the Big Ten East that seems to 54 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:14,500 be a mantle, that they really have trouble shaking and that 55 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:18,600 said, this Penn State team I think, has done a decent amount 56 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,900 of things, right offensively. They're averaging 33 points a 57 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:24,900 game, you know, they've been pretty good on the ground 58 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:27,700 averaging, just a little bit shy of five yards, a carry on the 59 00:03:27,708 --> 00:03:29,800 season. And and offensive ly. 60 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,000 They're averaging about six yards, a play which is pretty 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,600 good and defensively, they've not been terrible. 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,300 I mean the Michigan game. Did not help the defensive 63 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:41,900 numbers and they led to Ohio State score 44, but they really 64 00:03:41,900 --> 00:03:46,100 did keep Ohio State at Bay for most of the first half of last 65 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:49,300 week's game. And you know, they've, I think 66 00:03:49,300 --> 00:03:50,600 acquitted themselves fairly well. 67 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,400 Overall, this will still be looked at as a disappointing 68 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,900 season in Penn State land, but they can finish very strong. 69 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:01,500 I will bleep be in contention for a new year, six bowl. 70 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:04,100 If you look at the remaining schedule that they've got they 71 00:04:04,100 --> 00:04:07,100 no longer play ranked teams and the four teams that they play 72 00:04:07,100 --> 00:04:11,600 are Indiana at Indiana. Maryland at home at Rutgers 73 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,600 Michigan State at home. That is not a particularly 74 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,600 challenging set of games. When you get right down to it. 75 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,200 Maryland could be an interesting one. 76 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,800 I'm actually kind of curious to see how the Twitter the the 77 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,700 Terps play in state college. But certainly the The three 78 00:04:28,700 --> 00:04:32,200 you'd have to look at them and say, yeah, Penn State just out 79 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,800 talents all of the teams that they're going to be playing. 80 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,600 So, you know, I think certainly 10 and 2 still in the cards for 81 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,300 this Penn State team, nine and three, you know, is certainly 82 00:04:41,300 --> 00:04:44,000 also on the cards but if your Penn State, you have to like, 83 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,800 where you're at at this stage in terms of, yes, we're going to 84 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,000 have hit double digit. Wins most likely whether it's in 85 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,500 the regular-season, or adding the bowl or, you know, and but 86 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:57,500 still for Penn State, what they want to do is be where Ohio 87 00:04:57,500 --> 00:05:01,000 State's at Or beware Michigan's at and that just doesn't seem to 88 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,400 be happening for them at this point. 89 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:08,400 So they play Indiana who kind of wants to be where Penn State's 90 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,300 at right now, but looks more like we're Rutgers is at 3 and 5 91 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:16,300 on the season and the season, it just feels like the wheels of 92 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:18,900 falling off. For this IU team, they've lost 93 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:23,800 five games in a row and you know, they've given up, you 94 00:05:23,808 --> 00:05:26,100 know, the minimum amount of points they've given up in that 95 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:30,200 five-game, stretch is 24. And they've given up at least 20 96 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,900 points in every game this year. They've given up 30 points in 97 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:37,000 all, but three games this year and the offense just isn't 98 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,900 working either to the point that after that Rutgers loss and in 99 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:46,100 the press conference immediately following on Monday, Tom Allen 100 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:48,900 came out and stop me. If you've heard this before said 101 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,500 well we're going to look at everything. 102 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:54,200 We're going to re-evaluate everything, you know, even 103 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,000 starting quarterback might be up for grabs and not off the table. 104 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,700 And it just really folks, it feels like we're back to where 105 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:05,200 we were last year with this IU football team, where you have a 106 00:06:05,207 --> 00:06:09,300 coaching staff that seems bereft of answers and you have got an 107 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:13,800 offensive system that dust does not work for any long period of 108 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,600 time. You've got a defense that hasn't 109 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,800 played horribly, but hasn't played well, enough to actually 110 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,000 be able to stop teams when it matters. 111 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:27,200 And you know, you look across the board at this IU team, 112 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,800 they're one of the few teams. That is, you know, kind of bad 113 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,800 in both offense and defense to a level where if you were gonna, 114 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,800 you know, put a map together of the bad teams in college 115 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,800 football. You would. 116 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,200 I think have to very clearly put Indiana in that mix. 117 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,400 They just haven't been very good. 118 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:47,700 You look at Pro Football, Focus, we've been keeping track of the 119 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:51,900 grading. I you right now is 121st out of 120 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:56,400 131 teams in the Pro Football Focus overall grades. 121 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,200 They great out. Just barely ahead of of Akron 122 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,600 and right behind Middle Tennessee, State and Utah State. 123 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:06,200 They've dropped behind in Northwestern finally. 124 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,300 So, you know, those two teams look very similar and it's 125 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:12,700 interesting because, you know, I think Indiana's record. 126 00:07:12,700 --> 00:07:14,900 You look at them three and five and you're like, wow, how can 127 00:07:14,900 --> 00:07:17,400 they be that bad? If they've won three games, but 128 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,300 as we've talked about several times this season, the winds, 129 00:07:21,300 --> 00:07:24,100 statistically look like losses that they had earlier on, in the 130 00:07:24,100 --> 00:07:27,700 season, the win against Western, Kentucky, looks like a loss like 131 00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:29,100 they had a relatively Low post game. 132 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:31,300 When expectancy there, they shouldn't have won the game 133 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:34,000 based upon how the game went they did. 134 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,400 But it doesn't look like they did statistically. 135 00:07:37,100 --> 00:07:38,400 Same thing with the Illinois game. 136 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,900 Illinois statistically won that game, but Indiana managed to win 137 00:07:42,900 --> 00:07:46,600 the game in terms of the final score which matters, but when 138 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,500 you're trying to grade the season out, overall it's hard to 139 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:51,200 draw any conclusion from the numbers. 140 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,100 Other than this is not a good Indiana team and it hasn't been 141 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:57,000 from the start of the year. And while you look at 142 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Northwestern and there one in seven or you look at Colorado 143 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:02,900 and there one in seven and you're like, well, clearly 144 00:08:02,900 --> 00:08:04,800 Indiana has to be better than them because they've got two 145 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,700 more wins. Realistically statistically, not 146 00:08:07,700 --> 00:08:11,200 so much. So now the question comes like 147 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,500 what happens moving forward with this Indiana team? 148 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:18,400 I was really, I don't want to be dramatic because I mean I 149 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,200 wasn't. It wasn't like I had to get 150 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,300 like, you know, smelling salts and go sit on the fainting 151 00:08:23,300 --> 00:08:25,400 couch. When I heard Tom Allen talking 152 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,800 in the press conference a couple of weeks ago about you, them, 153 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,600 you know, basically re-evaluating everything again 154 00:08:33,299 --> 00:08:36,600 but it's just very disappointing and, you know, I think as we 155 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,700 move forward and I'm sure pending what happens in this 156 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:44,100 game that Scott and I will talk about it, some on Sunday, it's 157 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:49,000 pretty inexcusable You know, two-thirds of the way through 158 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,600 another season after a season that went completely off the 159 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,500 rails for Tom Allen to come out. And essentially say, well we 160 00:08:56,500 --> 00:08:58,800 don't really know what's like, how to fix things. 161 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,800 We don't really have answers. We're going to have to 162 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,300 re-evaluate everything. You shouldn't as a college team 163 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:07,600 is, especially Indiana, especially in this case, where 164 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,700 you've turned over offensive coordinators, you've turned over 165 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:15,200 defensive coordinators. You supposedly spent, the entire 166 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,900 offseason, kind of Structuring and reorganizing and really 167 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:21,400 getting back to basics and really getting back to this idea 168 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,300 that, you know, the team wants to like recommit to each other 169 00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:28,100 and recommit to this, the idea of having a successful football 170 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:31,800 program, it does not make much sense for them. 171 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,700 Once again to be in a position where they don't have any 172 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:37,800 answers where they've lost to Rutgers where they've lost to 173 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,400 Maryland where they've lost to Nebraska and they've lost five 174 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,500 games in a row and are staring. You know what could potentially 175 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:47,600 be a 1 and 8 season in the big 10 in the face, having just come 176 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,500 off in 2009, season in the big tent. 177 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,000 And I think the thing, the quarterback situation I think is 178 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,800 really emblematic of the core problem that is currently 179 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,900 happening with IU football, which is that the problem is not 180 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,300 Connor, basil, act, and you know that there's a lot of people in 181 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:12,500 our mentions on Twitter who I understand point out issues with 182 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:15,100 basil, lacks accuracy. No question. 183 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:18,500 He did not have a good. Game against Rutgers, he's had 184 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:22,300 some trouble in terms of getting the ball where it needs to be in 185 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:24,700 an accurate manner. A lot of that has to do with 186 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:28,400 pressure, some of that has to do with hearing footsteps and you 187 00:10:28,408 --> 00:10:30,800 know if you were standing behind this offensive line, I think 188 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,000 you'd be probably hearing footsteps as well. 189 00:10:34,100 --> 00:10:37,100 But, you know, the problem to some degree. 190 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:44,100 It's like after a while the it's not the Personnel, it's the 191 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:46,900 system and this is the second year in a row really, to some 192 00:10:46,900 --> 00:10:49,600 degree, the third year in a row where you've had to rely. 193 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:55,600 If your eye you on extraordinary performances from individuals to 194 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,500 overcome, the shortcomings in the system. 195 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:02,100 If you go back to 2020, a lot of people have very fond memories 196 00:11:02,100 --> 00:11:06,100 of 2020 and rightfully so So that was a very successful year. 197 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,800 It was a very fun year, you know, but I think it's important 198 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,900 to keep in mind that a lot of the underlying numbers for IU in 199 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:16,100 that year weren't great in terms of what they were doing on 200 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:18,800 offense. It was, it was a team that 201 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:25,000 largely played over its head and a lot of that came from 202 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:31,200 essentially relying on the Brilliance of Michael penix, in 203 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,000 being able, to make things work and figure out. 204 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:38,400 How to make plays in times when protection had broken down and 205 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,300 whatnot. I mean, Indiana went six and two 206 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,300 in 2020 and Michael penix was around for most of those games. 207 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:47,700 He has he got injured in the Maryland, game was out for the 208 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:51,300 Wisconsin game and then was out for the bowl game and he ended 209 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:54,700 up papering over a multitude of sin, particularly, with pass 210 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:57,200 blocking. That was one of the worst grated 211 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,100 pass. Blocking years that we've seen 212 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:03,800 out of Indiana football in a long time, and yeah, Indiana 213 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,900 went X + 2 statistically I think if you really dug into the 214 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:10,600 numbers, you know, they probably should have gone for 14. 215 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,500 And you know, it's funny if you think about how different our 216 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:17,900 perception of IU football would be if that had been the record 217 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,700 now it wasn't the record but if you think about the way that I 218 00:12:21,700 --> 00:12:26,200 you football has descended over the last couple of years. 219 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,700 There's some important lessons to learn from that and one of 220 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:33,300 them is you take Michael penix. Who is we've seen at Washington? 221 00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:35,700 While not a Fect quarterback is a pretty damn good. 222 00:12:35,700 --> 00:12:38,100 Start starting quarterback at the college level. 223 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,500 You know when you take him out of the equation it suddenly it's 224 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:45,700 like turning a rock over and all the like the you know the grubs 225 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:48,700 are like flying everywhere. You start to see what's crawling 226 00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:52,300 underneath the service and it's like this really doesn't work in 227 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:55,700 reality. And last year you didn't have a 228 00:12:55,700 --> 00:12:59,400 functional Michael penix because of injury and so you benched 229 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,400 him. Well he got injured you bring in 230 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,300 Jack, Tuttle Jack tunnels not able to The throws, Jack, Tuttle 231 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:07,300 has all kinds of problems with accuracy. 232 00:13:07,700 --> 00:13:10,500 Then you go to Donovan. McCulley who couldn't make the 233 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:12,200 throws and couldn't operate in the offense. 234 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,500 You end up with a walk-on who can functionally make some 235 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:19,000 throws But ultimately a lot of it was a problem with the 236 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,000 underlying issues of the offense as a whole, not just the 237 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,300 blocking and the overall offensive line play. 238 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,800 But the Personnel in some of the skill position sets and what 239 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,500 they were doing, you know, and certainly I think the overall 240 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:38,200 play call Being approached more aspirational than drawing off of 241 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,300 what your personnel can provide you. 242 00:13:40,700 --> 00:13:44,400 And you know, certainly a lot of issues with IU, I think come 243 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,500 down to both last year. And this year, this idea that 244 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:50,300 this is not a really functional offense. 245 00:13:50,300 --> 00:13:53,700 This is not an offense that has the ability to block. 246 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:57,000 And as we've heard, Zach, Osterman from the Indy star, 247 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,900 quoting Kevin Wilson over and over again. 248 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:03,600 It's like your offense is what you can block and Indiana 249 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,300 hasn't. The block anything the last 250 00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:07,300 couple of years. And it took essentially, if you 251 00:14:07,308 --> 00:14:11,000 go back and look at 2020 took a really extraordinary performance 252 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,400 from the quarterback threw most of the season to get Indiana to 253 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,800 the point where they could be 6 and to where they could, you 254 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:17,900 know. So they could be six and one 255 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:24,300 going into the Outback Bowl. So I look at now L that is a 256 00:14:24,308 --> 00:14:28,000 preamble to thinking about now. And then, I think the very real 257 00:14:28,900 --> 00:14:31,400 possibility that Jack tuttle's going to be the starting 258 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,800 quarterback on Saturday And I don't begrudge, Jack, Tuttle, 259 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,100 the the opportunity to start, you know, certainly his career 260 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:42,600 at IU is not played out the way that he thought it would and the 261 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,500 way that the coaching staff thought it would and he's 262 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:47,200 already got his name in the transfer portal. 263 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:50,700 I hope that he performs very well and that puts him in a 264 00:14:50,708 --> 00:14:52,900 position where he can go somewhere and have a good 265 00:14:52,900 --> 00:14:56,600 conclusion to his career. But the fact that it's week, 266 00:14:57,100 --> 00:15:04,700 nine, essentially and IU is even contemplating that tells me That 267 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,700 this is less about this is like, more just like, well, let's hope 268 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:10,100 that if we throw Jack Tuttle, and it will create a spark 269 00:15:10,500 --> 00:15:12,600 rather than what we've looked at the offense. 270 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,100 And this is actually what we need. 271 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,200 It just strikes, it smacks of a level of desperation on the 272 00:15:18,208 --> 00:15:20,800 coaching staff because they don't seem to know how to fix 273 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,700 the problems. And that really is concerning 274 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:28,100 and the fact that the same thing happened last year in a slightly 275 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:31,800 different formation is. I think even more concerning 276 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,600 long term when you think about where I you football, Is that I 277 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,600 have a hard time believing that basil act who yes, is had some 278 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,800 accuracy issues but has looked like a pretty competent 279 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,300 quarterback overall throughout the course of the Season. 280 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,100 You're going to pull him out and put a guy in who couldn't win 281 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:52,200 the job throughout an entire offseason despite having started 282 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,600 games before and who was in the system already and has been in 283 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,800 the system for multiple years, like that just doesn't bode well 284 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,500 and furthermore, I think Just kind of again, mrs. 285 00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:08,700 This the the core point which is that the underlying structure of 286 00:16:08,700 --> 00:16:12,300 the offense just doesn't work and hasn't worked for a couple 287 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:16,200 of years and I don't know what happens at this point moving 288 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,000 forward. I mean, if Indiana pulls one of 289 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,900 these flash four games out, that's great and I'd be curious 290 00:16:22,900 --> 00:16:26,000 to see how they did it. But if they don't now, you put 291 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,900 yourself in a position as a program where it's like what do 292 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:32,600 you do you fired your offensive line coach early in the season 293 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:35,400 in you know? What a pretty young, not, not 294 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,100 completely unprecedented, but surprising that you would go 295 00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:42,400 through an entire offseason with a guy and then fire him for 296 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,000 games into the season when it had to be cleared during the 297 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,500 offseason. If you knew what to look for, 298 00:16:47,500 --> 00:16:50,100 that the offensive line wasn't up to Snuff just as it had not 299 00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:52,000 been up to Snuff the previous two years. 300 00:16:53,700 --> 00:16:56,500 So you know you have to hire a new offensive line, coach fine. 301 00:16:56,500 --> 00:17:01,300 But you've got an offensive coordinator at this point who, 302 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:04,900 you know, doesn't seem to be able to effectively We adapt to 303 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:08,300 the Personnel that he's got the system that he's got. 304 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,400 I don't know what exactly is going to change their. 305 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,099 So you got to make another change at offensive coordinator. 306 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:17,599 Where is all of this headed? Like what is the direction of 307 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:20,500 the program? This is a really bad game to try 308 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:23,300 to figure some of that out in and, you know, going back and 309 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:25,900 looking at this Penn State game. I don't know. 310 00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:28,800 I mean, if they end up starting basil, a candy doesn't play? 311 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,500 Well, I don't know that. That necessarily will tell you 312 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:34,500 anything because of the weather conditions that IU is going to 313 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:35,900 be facing in this Penn State game. 314 00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:39,600 It's going to be a wet field. It'll probably rain for the 315 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,800 first part of the game and then taper off, but it's going to be 316 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,400 very windy and I think it's going to be a struggle for both 317 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,600 offenses to kind of get things going. 318 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,000 And that's something that I you really doesn't need his like, 319 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,800 more struggles on offense, in addition to the Personnel items. 320 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,800 But once you bench basil, lack, it's hard to see. 321 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,900 You going back to Basil, act the rest of the year, you know, 322 00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:03,900 unless there's some kind of an injury that forces. 323 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,400 That to happen. And that's the only way that you 324 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,300 could do it. Where even if you do it that 325 00:18:08,300 --> 00:18:10,500 way, you've kind of, essentially, you've taken 326 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:12,900 basal-like off the table is an effective leader. 327 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,400 Because now if I'm playing on offense, I'm like, well, that 328 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,600 guy just got benched for someone who didn't win the job in the 329 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,700 offseason. It's hard to put the same level 330 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:27,500 of trust and confidence in that person's ability to lead the 331 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:29,700 offense as you go through the rest of the season. 332 00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:32,700 So I just the whole thing is, is troubling. 333 00:18:32,900 --> 00:18:35,900 It just feels Again, like a desperation move if that's 334 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:37,700 indeed what happens. The fact that was even being 335 00:18:37,700 --> 00:18:42,100 talked about, to some degree. It really kind of waves that red 336 00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:44,400 flag of. We're not exactly sure what the 337 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,200 problem is. And that is really, really 338 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,100 problematic, not just for this season, but the but for the 339 00:18:49,108 --> 00:18:51,000 program as a whole. So I hope that that gets figured 340 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,500 out. We'll have to see how it goes. 341 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:55,800 I mean, statistically, speaking, this is going to be a difficult 342 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:01,400 game to project because Penn State overall, you know, they've 343 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,700 they've run hot and cold and some of these games. 344 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,800 A lot of it, I think for IU, is going to really come down to 345 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,900 this idea of how their defense is able to handle certain 346 00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:14,300 situations. I mean, Penn State, you're 347 00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:18,200 looking at them from a, from a PFF perspective, is not 348 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,700 considered one of the best teams in the country by any means. 349 00:19:21,900 --> 00:19:24,200 And I think that it's, you know, what's fascinating about this 350 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,900 Penn State team is that even though they're six and two 351 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:31,500 statistically, they've somewhat under produced especially when 352 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:33,800 it comes to something like the running game. 353 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:37,900 Or they just, they haven't been consistently good in blocking 354 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:40,300 their offensive line hasn't been great, really, an either pass 355 00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:43,900 blocking or run blocking and even though they're six and two 356 00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:47,500 and ranked 16th realistically, they're probably kind of a 357 00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:50,200 middle tier team. I think they, you know, playing 358 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,600 against an equivalent team from the SEC or the Big 12 in a bowl 359 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,500 game. They probably get smashed. 360 00:19:57,100 --> 00:20:01,100 And and yet I think in the Big Ten, they probably measure up to 361 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:03,500 right about where we see them about third in the Eastern 362 00:20:03,500 --> 00:20:06,800 Division. You know, will Penn State be 363 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,400 able to take advantage of Indiana's inability to come up 364 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,500 with turnovers and inability to stop drives? 365 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:14,300 I think that ends up being kind of the big question. 366 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:18,000 You look at the games, they've been the most successful and so 367 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,400 far this season and it's generally been teams that they 368 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:28,400 have been able to consistently pass well against and it's been 369 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,800 teams that, you know, just haven't put up as much of a 370 00:20:31,808 --> 00:20:34,500 fight from an offensive perspective and and I feel like 371 00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:37,100 unfortunately, Indiana kind of fits both of those categories 372 00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:40,600 very well. You know the closest analog I 373 00:20:40,608 --> 00:20:44,800 guess for Indiana would be Northwestern or Purdue. 374 00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:48,700 There's not really a great analog on what Penn State's had 375 00:20:48,700 --> 00:20:50,000 on their schedule. This far this season. 376 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,000 That's about the closest that you can get, you know, Purdue 377 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,100 took advantage of some mistakes on Penn State offensive 378 00:20:57,100 --> 00:21:01,600 approach, but they couldn't stop Penn State on their own 379 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,100 defensive approaches. And I think that helped There's 380 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:07,600 quite a bit Northwestern was just kind of a slog as 381 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,700 Northwestern does Penn State should have won that game by 382 00:21:10,700 --> 00:21:13,600 more, you know? But they were able to rely on a 383 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,400 pretty stout defense to keep, northwestern's subpar offense at 384 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,400 Bay. And that's the big question for 385 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,400 me is like, you know, with Indiana uncertainty at 386 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,600 quarterback. No Camp. 387 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,900 Camper for the rest of the season. 388 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:28,700 Who unfortunately, went out with an ACL tear and no real 389 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:32,200 established running game. Like, where's the ball going to 390 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,000 go? How's the ball? 391 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,300 Going to It's past the line of scrimmage, consistently because 392 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:39,700 I use offensive line just has not shown an ability to provide 393 00:21:39,700 --> 00:21:41,900 the kind of blocking either in the pass game of the Run game to 394 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:45,300 make that happen. It's a 13 and a half point 395 00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:48,900 spread right now and I guess, you know, for me the big 396 00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:52,700 question is, is the weather bad enough that Indiana can keep it 397 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:57,400 within 10, you know or just Penn State figure out a way to 398 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,700 manufacture yards on the ground, get a lead and then Indiana has 399 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:03,000 to try to throw consistently and they're just not able to do 400 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,700 that. You know, to some degree, I 401 00:22:04,708 --> 00:22:07,800 think a little bit of everything is on the table and, you know, 402 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,600 probably a little bit of a stay away if you were in the wagering 403 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,000 game because 13 and a half is right around. 404 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,600 Kind of the question mark point. You think about last year's game 405 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,900 in Happy Valley, Indiana lost that game. 24 to nothing. 406 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,300 And that was, it was just not a particularly fun game to watch. 407 00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:27,800 It was it was we've seen that game a lot with Indiana and Penn 408 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,900 State. We're kind of stages kind of 409 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:32,400 establishes physical dominance and Indiana's not able to do a 410 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,500 whole lot with they're their possessions. 411 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:40,900 And so, you know, my perspective on this one is, I think Penn 412 00:22:40,900 --> 00:22:43,900 State. This feels like a 17 to 20 point 413 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:47,500 victory for Penn State, probably somewhere in the realm of like 414 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:52,200 27, 27 or 30 to 10. I'm not sure how reliably 415 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,100 kickers will be able to get the ball through the uprights 416 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:57,500 tomorrow so that could skew things a little bit. 417 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,900 I don't think Indiana is really got a shot at winning this one. 418 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,700 They just haven't shown much of a spark. 419 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,800 Could all the last month and a half. 420 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,500 But, you know, I also would be surprised if they got blown out, 421 00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:11,500 simply because I don't think Penn State has that in their 422 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:16,100 Arsenal at this stage to be able to do so, that's going to be the 423 00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:19,300 the thing to watch. I guess, tomorrow is how all 424 00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:21,600 that plays out. And I'm curious to see what 425 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,700 occurs and I'm curious to see what Indiana ends up doing on 426 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:27,700 offense and whether any sort of change makes a difference and 427 00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:30,200 also who steps up in the wide receiving Corps, you know, 428 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,700 whether that's a Maurice Evans or Anderson, Kobe or DJ. 429 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,200 Who's getting more targets or AJ Barner getting into the offense 430 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,900 more, something differents going to have to happen with no Camp 431 00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:43,800 camper and I don't know what direction they'll go with that. 432 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,900 So we'll see last thing to cover for tomorrow. 433 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,600 The weather I've been watching this whole week and man it just 434 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,100 gets worse and worse. Every time I check it in the 435 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:57,200 original forecast was for like mid-70s and a little bit of a 436 00:23:57,208 --> 00:24:01,900 breeze and that is devolved to now they're forecasting, you 437 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:04,600 know about probably somewhere between a Order and a half inch 438 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:10,700 of rain and winds that by the time you get to around 1:00, 439 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:16,000 2:00 will be steady out of the south-southwest at about 18 to 440 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,600 20 miles an hour with gusts up to 40 That's not ideal by any 441 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,800 means. That's bad tailgate. 442 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,700 Whether that's bad watching football, whether I will say, it 443 00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:29,900 does look like the rain is going to according to the projections 444 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:33,100 taper off right around the start of the game. 445 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,400 So you may want to maybe not a I mean you can do whatever you 446 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,700 want. I'm not going to dissuade 447 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:41,700 anybody from trying to go out and tailgate. 448 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:46,700 I'm still debating exactly how long I want to be out there, but 449 00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:49,700 I'll say, you know, you may want to maybe consider biasing a 450 00:24:49,708 --> 00:24:52,300 little bit closer to game time as opposed to getting out there 451 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:55,600 at the crack of dawn, because this is going to be wet, it's 452 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,800 going to be windy, it's going to be hard to put canopies up, and 453 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,500 that, that's a bad combination. Like it's one thing if it's 454 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:03,600 going to be raining in a little bit. 455 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,000 It's another, if it's all of those things and you can't 456 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,300 shelter yourself. So I would say just use caution, 457 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,200 check the forecast. Before you go to bed tonight. 458 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,900 Before you make any final determinations, it could be 459 00:25:14,900 --> 00:25:17,100 worse. I mean they've actually banned 460 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:21,100 canopies at Purdue and and I think they're doing the same 461 00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,500 thing at Northwestern. They've said for this weekend, 462 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,500 winds are going to be too strong. 463 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,200 It's going to be too dangerous. You can't put in a canopies up. 464 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:32,100 It's funny. That Penn State of all things of 465 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:35,400 all teams is that the game that Has got with another windy 466 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,200 contest. I remember clearly think it was 467 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,900 five years ago, Indiana, playing Penn State. 468 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:43,900 It was actually the game that Michael penix, tore his knee up 469 00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:47,800 the first time. But my tailgate spot which is 470 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,400 kind of between Assembly Hall and Memorial Stadium. 471 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:54,700 We had people that had set up next to us, they set their 472 00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:56,500 canopy up, everything that's about three and a half hours 473 00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:58,400 before the game. And then they had to leave to go 474 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,900 like to a youth soccer game, and they were going to come back and 475 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:04,600 we're like, yeah, we'll watch your stuff and then Remember, I, 476 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,300 you Personnel driving through on golf cart saying, hey, there's a 477 00:26:07,308 --> 00:26:10,400 high wind warning and it's supposed to come in about 30 478 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,200 minutes and we're like, yeah, sure, no problem. 479 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,600 And then it hit like, 30 minutes later like they said. 480 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,300 And our stuff was fine because we'd secured it the stuff that 481 00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:22,300 the people left behind who had gone to the youth, soccer game 482 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,500 all blue into our stuff. So, like, canopy got destroyed 483 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:31,700 lost a Crock-Pot in the process that got knocked off a table, it 484 00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:33,500 was pretty scary. Like it was, it was one of 485 00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:34,700 those. Has moments where you're like, I 486 00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:37,600 might not survive this I might got my might get hit in the head 487 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,000 with a canopy, and that's it. And so, we spent a lot of time 488 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,800 having to clean up and that was, it was not ideal and that whole 489 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,300 game was bad. If you went to that game, you 490 00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:51,100 probably remember like the third and fourth quarter, the wind 491 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,500 just swirling garbage in Memorial Stadium, it just a nun, 492 00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:58,900 an inhospitable environment by and large. 493 00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:01,700 And, of course, Indiana cap that off with losing that game. 494 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:05,900 So not not the Situation. So if you do go out, be careful 495 00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:09,300 of the wind, you know, no storms tomorrow, or anything like that. 496 00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:13,100 So nothing to worry about there but just be cautious and use 497 00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:17,000 your best judgment and you know, this might not be the worst 498 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,600 thing, you know, day in the world, instead of grilling out 499 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,400 there to come up with a crock pot recipe that you could 500 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,100 utilize bring that with you. So you're not beholding to 501 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,800 having to cook out in the wet. You know, try to find some 502 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,600 alternate Solutions. I think that's probably the best 503 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,200 bet at this point. So anyway, Way, good luck with 504 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,000 everybody. I hope you all have a good game, 505 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,500 whether you come down and watch it in person, or whether you're 506 00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:44,100 watching it from home, we'll be back on Sunday with a recap 507 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:45,700 podcast where we talk about what happened. 508 00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:48,000 We've also got some basketball content coming up soon. 509 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,400 I'm going to be joined by some special guests, as we talked 510 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,900 about the two exhibition games, and the start of the season for 511 00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:57,200 IU men's basketball the start of the season for are you women's 512 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,000 basketball coming up here soon as well? 513 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,200 Good luck to IU men's soccer, is they play in the first round of 514 00:28:03,208 --> 00:28:04,800 the Big Ten? Tournament today against Penn 515 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,300 State. I'm Galen. 516 00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:08,000 Klaviyo. Will catch you folks on the flip 517 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,700 side? Bring back the Bison, so 518 00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:10,100 everybody