1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,880 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:21,880 Field Apparel. Welcome back to Crimson Cast, 3 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,800 GAIL and Clavio Scott Caulfield joining you. 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,320 It is Sunday, December 1st in Indiana is 11 and one. 5 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:37,840 The fever dream continues Scott. An absolute complete destruction 6 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,160 of Purdue. There's almost not words to 7 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:45,040 describe how one sided that game was last night and just a 8 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,640 beautiful scene in the snow. The first night bucket game, 9 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,080 first snow bucket game I can remember in a long time and an 10 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,880 Indiana team that was clearly out to prove a point. 11 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,680 We're going to talk about all of that. 12 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,800 It was it was one of those nights. 13 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,320 If you were there, you'll never forget the experience. 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,959 At least that's that's how I've kind of woken up and thought 15 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,960 about it. Scott, how are you doing today? 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,840 I'm doing great and I was thinking about this. 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,240 It's like, on one hand we don't even need to do a podcast 'cause 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,680 it's just an ass. Kicking right, Just replay the 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,520 the the game you know I mean. Just be like, hey, 6, I mean, 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,240 like every stat is gonna be unbelievable that there's really 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,680 no need to dive into the numbers. 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,120 Like like, you know, Osterman had his like, you know, recap. 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,680 It's like all a pluses across the board. 24 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,960 On the flip side, it's like, let's do 2 hours 'cause we don't 25 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:31,560 normally get to, you know, have an ass kicking this good in the 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,160 Big 10, especially Purdue. So let's let's do a three hour 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,080 podcast. Just dig into every single fun 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,800 stat we can get from the game last night. 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,680 Yeah, I mean, this is, you know, we've we've watched IU football 30 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,920 for a long time. We don't get very many 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,720 opportunities to revel in a huge IU blowout win in this series. 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,960 But this is beyond Scott. Like this was history. 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,200 This was the largest margin of victory in the series for 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,800 Indiana over Purdue. I think it might have been 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,920 Purdue's largest margin of loss in a, in a, a power conference 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,240 game. I, I was just one of those games 37 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,080 where everything came together. It was Indiana wanting to prove 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,600 a point and prove that they were still the, the very strong team 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,280 that we had seen throughout the course of the 1st 10 weeks. 40 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:22,320 It was also Purdue clearly kind of running out of steam about a 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:27,640 possession into the game. Yeah, you know Indiana scored 66 42 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:31,640 and can legitimately say we left some points out on the field. 43 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,360 That kind of surprise on that last drive that they took a 44 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,720 knee. Like there's a world where I'm 45 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,480 like, I think another, it was another interception, I think. 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,080 And it's like they could go for seven. 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,600 Like 7074 would be a nice number to end on. 70 looks good on you. 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,520 No, but I'm kind of glad that they stopped just because like 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,360 you don't want to pile too much on. 50 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:53,800 I think we did enough. Anyway, we're going to talk 51 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,200 about all that. 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We, we had talked a little bit 111 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,680 last week about there was some fear coming into this game that 112 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,200 I think was natural for any IU football fan that had been 113 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,280 around the block a few times. And you saw some of it earlier 114 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:56,320 on in the day and, and earlier on in the week with some of 115 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,120 these rivalry games. You saw Georgia have to go to 116 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,800 what's 8 overtimes to beat rival Georgia Tech, who's a good team, 117 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:04,280 certainly much better than Purdue. 118 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,480 But you know, we saw that in other rivalry games is what we 119 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,080 saw Clemson lose on their home field to South Carolina. 120 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,520 Again, a good Clemson team. But you know, sometimes we've 121 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,240 seen bad teams go in and make a real trouble for the the the 122 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,360 favored team. And there was none of that 123 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,680 today. Like Indiana came out and it 124 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,520 took a little bit of time to get the offense going. 125 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,360 The defense was ready from the get go. 126 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:31,680 And then when the offense got going, there was really not a 127 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,800 lot else to talk about. It was like basically a 2 1/2 128 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,560 hour celebration. Curtis Rourke unworking, 6 129 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,600 touchdown passes and 349 yards. Indiana rushing for 2:37. 130 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Any thoughts? We had, Scott, that this might 131 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,840 be a game, a trap game of sorts for an Indiana team that that 132 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:53,480 struggled against Ohio State and had seemed to struggle 133 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,600 offensively. All those thoughts kind of went 134 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,480 out the window. By the end of the first quarter, 135 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,440 it was clear that Indiana had come to play. 136 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,600 Yeah, I mean, in the worst case scenario view of this game that 137 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,120 you were worried that, you know, it would be similar to like, you 138 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,080 know, the Michigan State game where Purdue just gets off a 139 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,720 quick score somehow or it just stays relatively close, kind of 140 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,000 like the Maryland game. And then, you know, you're in a 141 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,320 tight game, the weather's tough, Maybe it's you're you have a 142 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,240 hard time moving the ball. And we had both been worried 143 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,520 about, you know, the the last two games, our offense has not 144 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,960 looked as good as it had in the past. 145 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,400 Now, you know, whether it comes back because it's Purdue is a 146 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,200 different story. But it came back, you know, like 147 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,400 this was within 1/4 or two. You're like, Oh no, they, they 148 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,920 have all mastery. It's like they had a drive where 149 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,840 they ran 2 reverses in the same drive. 150 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,640 And it's just like, hey, this works. 151 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,960 Let's just keep doing this and then we'll try something else 152 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,800 and oh, that works, let's keep doing that. 153 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,760 And it's like it's, it's almost like, you know, Signeti's like, 154 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,200 well, I have all these plays. I really wanted to try some 155 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,120 stuff, but do we do the stuff that's working? 156 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,560 Do we try new stuff that's working? 157 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,000 It's it's called, it's called unloading the clip I believe is 158 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,040 what you're talking about. And then? 159 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,400 And then it just became clear it's like this this team has, 160 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,600 you know, pretty well has no fight like this is not this is 161 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,440 not going to be a very close game. 162 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,280 And you know, we talked about it on Crimson cash. 163 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,280 I'm very nervous about, you know, Indiana with a 28 point 164 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,080 advantage at home. They cover that And and I was I 165 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,560 we're we kind of talked about betting it down to 23 just 166 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,480 because 28 see, you know, I I thought we were going to win, 167 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,960 but 20 eights that that's a tough that's a tough putt. 168 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,160 No problem cleared it all good. And the thing that I will say 169 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,400 is, you know, we've talked a little bit about Curtis Rourke 170 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,360 is, is the thumb injury and I had noticed kind of going back 171 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,679 rewatching some of the drives from Michigan, Ohio State, even 172 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,360 Michigan State. You did see it almost like he 173 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,720 was pushing the ball more and the the ball didn't have as 174 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,920 tight of a spiral and you could see he was still throwing well 175 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,720 and still hitting it well, but like it was fluttering a little 176 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,920 bit. Didn't kind of have the tight 177 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,640 spiral he had. That all seemed to come back 178 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,120 last night. Like his throws were tight. 179 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,320 They were really on point and again, not knocking it from a 180 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,560 force. You could just tell he was 181 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,560 struggling more with the thumb. It feels like something happened 182 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:12,120 in the last week or maybe we need to play all games and sub 183 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,240 freezing temperatures. But it did feel like his his 184 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,600 thumb got a a ton better in the last week because he was 185 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,400 throwing the ball with with tightness and zip that I don't 186 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,800 feel like we've seen in a couple of weeks. 187 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,720 Yeah, it's, it was so important. I think on a number of levels 188 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,600 that Indiana look as good as they did in this game. 189 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,440 And it really did start with Rourke, who I think there were 190 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:36,880 open questions not about his talent, not about his ability, 191 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,840 but about his performance over the course of, you know, the 192 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,960 last couple of games. And was that purely because of 193 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,480 the pass rush? Was it because of the injury? 194 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,360 Was it something else that he hit a wall? 195 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:52,200 And even, you know, in the first quarter, there were some 196 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,960 concerning moments because the blitz got to him a couple of 197 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,200 times. And you're like, my God, if 198 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,520 Purdue can blitz and and get to the quarterback, we got real 199 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,960 problems. But I think what we finally saw 200 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,440 out of Rourke was some quicker decision making. 201 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:07,120 We saw some plays that allowed him to do some quicker decision 202 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,760 making. Certainly the running game 203 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,800 starting to work as it rolled and gained steam in that first 204 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,640 half took some of the pressure off the line. 205 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,160 And look, I think overall, I think Indiana needed this game 206 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,360 and Rourke needed this game and Elijah Surratt needed this game 207 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:25,960 to feel better about themselves as we move forward. 208 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,000 You know, it's one thing to get it going again in practice. 209 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,680 It's another to be able to go out there and have the kind of 210 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:36,040 performance where you put 586 yards of offense on the board, 211 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,400 you put 66 points on the board, you capitalize basically every 212 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,840 time you get the opportunity to over the last three quarters. 213 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,760 You know that to me first, you know, when I went into this 214 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,560 game, it's like, I want the win, obviously, and I want Indiana to 215 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:51,120 cover because I think that's important in the eyes of the 216 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,800 committee. And it's like, well, if we can 217 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,400 get those boxes checked off. What I would really like is to 218 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,640 see a game where it's just highlight after highlight after 219 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,840 highlight and where it's a steady combination of explosive 220 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,080 plays and then just drives where you're rolling down the field 221 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,800 and they can't really do a whole lot against you. 222 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,040 And and that's basically what we got, Scott. 223 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,160 I mean, you look at, you know, there were two really only two 224 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,200 possessions you could say that Indiana like failed at in terms 225 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,080 of their movement. The the very first one, five 226 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,960 play, 7 yards and then the missed field goal where they've 227 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,640 got the the interception and then couldn't convert. 228 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,600 But everything else, it was like 9 play touchdown, 9 play 229 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,040 touchdown, 4 play touchdown, 7 play touchdown, you know, and 230 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,240 then 42 yard touchdown drive, 48 yard touchdown drive, 76 yard 231 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,440 touchdown drive, 17 yard one play drive for a touchdown. 232 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:45,280 Those are the kinds of things that I think help the rooms that 233 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,480 are, you know, contributing to this offense to go back and be 234 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:49,960 like, OK, here's what we're doing, right? 235 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,480 Here's how we need to attack this. 236 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:54,240 And it was just great to see so many IU players get involved 237 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,560 again after the Ohio State game, where very few players were able 238 00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:01,040 to contribute offensively. So yes, and what we'll do some 239 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,960 good comedy here. Yes and the the defense, what I 240 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,080 was really happy with it. You know, you got to it at one 241 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:07,880 point. I'm like, well, maybe they'll 242 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,720 just not give up a first down. That'd be fun. 243 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,640 But you know, by the middle of second quarter, it's like it 244 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,800 would really be great to have a shut out here because it was 245 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,760 definitely a a possibility. But you know, weird stuff 246 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,440 happens where you know, guy can break and you get a field goal 247 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,120 or there can be a punt return or something. 248 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,960 I I love messing up, but we'll do recite the driver. 249 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,960 I was going to name the drive just kind of mess me up there, 250 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,360 but recite the drive you took in the end. 251 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,440 Let me take Purdue. This is this is really something 252 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,600 of of staggering beauty. Here are their drives by plays. 253 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,120 3 plays, punt. 3 plays, interception 3 plays, punt. 3 254 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,400 plays, punt. 3 plays, punt 6 for 27 yards. 255 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Indiana's got to work on that. That's that's quite a drive and 256 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,440 also ended in a punt. One play, fumble. 3 play, punt. 257 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,160 3 play, punt. 3 play, punt, 2 play, fumble, 7 play, punt 258 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,880 again. You know, we got got some things 259 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,320 to work on guys. 3 plays, punt. 2. 260 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:58,440 Plays, interception, that's unbelievable. 261 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,040 You, you had two drives that went over 3 plays, all of them 262 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,000 ending in punts, fumbles or interceptions. 263 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,080 I think the fact that they got they, they got the shutout was 264 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,400 also important because that's, that's a, that's a really cool 265 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,600 bar. That's something that I know 266 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,080 teams, you know, strive for when it, when it's available, it's 267 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,680 like, hey, let's really get our stamp here. 268 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:19,920 And also, you know what, when you're looking at style points, 269 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,200 which is what Indiana is now going to have to do and try to 270 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,160 impress the committee, 66 zero just looks empirically better 271 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,160 than 66 six or well, I guess 666 would be freaky for a lot of 272 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,120 people. But like, you know, 6612 or 273 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,360 something, even though it's still the same domination, this 274 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,200 really just does show it's a zero, man. 275 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,320 That's a complete 0. And that's a real win for the 276 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,160 defense. It is. 277 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,160 And look, I mean, the, the, the margin to me, God, we owed 278 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,400 Purdue for so many past games. I mean, and, and it's one of 279 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,040 those where I just, I have, I have 0 remorse about Purdue 280 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,440 anyway. But anybody who was like, God, 281 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,520 you guys ran the score up. I just want to note, like go 282 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,640 back and look at the history of the series in West Lafayette in 283 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,600 2008. Purdue wins 62 to 10. 284 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,880 I don't recall them ever lamenting scoring that many 285 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,280 points on Indiana and. They weren't doing that for 286 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,520 style points like they had a college for a playoff berth on 287 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,640 the on the line that. Year, you know, in in in 2463 to 288 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,240 24 was the final, you know, in Bloomington my freshman year, 289 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,360 you're like junior year or sophomore year 56 to seven loss. 290 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,800 So you know, there were a lot of of demons and and phantoms to 291 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,400 get out of the closet with this one. 292 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,120 And you know, in a series that is really since it began been 293 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,360 very one sided in the direction of Purdue. 294 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,360 It was so fitting that this year's Indiana football team, 295 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,480 one that is broken people's idea of what it means to be Indiana 296 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,560 football, one that is completely reset the attitude and the 297 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,560 mentality of the program For them to be able to go in and 298 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,360 hand Indiana the largest margin of victory in series history is 299 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,560 it's so it's poetic, Scott. I mean, I, I couldn't have I it 300 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,280 was, it's such a perfect way for the regular season to end that 301 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,040 exclamation point. That will be another data point 302 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,440 we look back on 10/20/30 years down the line that will 303 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,520 highlight just how special this season has been for Indiana. 304 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,520 It's funny, my my wife is on a text chain with a bunch of 305 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,000 teachers who all went to, you know, taught at Westfield and 306 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,200 there's a Westfield player on on Purdue, all Dylan, but he plays 307 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,800 defense and they were texting like, God, it feels so bad for 308 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,760 him. Like he's a good kid. 309 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,560 I can't believe this. There's like always like being 310 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,120 very nice teachers and someone just ends with a text like he 311 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:37,320 should have gone to IU. But you know, the, the stats, 312 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,640 like I mentioned before, are just unbelievable. 313 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,200 You know, the, the Ryan Phillips, our, our friend of the 314 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,200 network has just was tweeting out stuff at the end of the game 315 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,040 like Indiana average 7.76 yards per play tonight. 316 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,920 Purdue averaged 1.97. You know, it's, it's Purdue had 317 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,800 67 yards total. Indiana had 66 points and 583 318 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,240 total yards. I mean, there there are. 319 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,040 It's literally you could, we could do a stat mash up of this 320 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,200 game for probably the next five years and just continue to find 321 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:11,040 unbelievable stats out of this. I mean this was absolute ass 322 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,040 kicking. The big one, of course, was that 323 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,760 Purdue ended up with 13 rushing yards on 24 attempts in this 324 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,760 game. And James Carpenter, the 325 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,880 defensive lineman for Indiana, rush once for 18 yards. 326 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,640 I mean, you know, it's, it's just, you know, Tavan Jackson, 327 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,680 who was barely in the game, rushed for 20 yards at a 328 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,280 touchdown. So this was one of those. 329 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,840 It's funny, like it's not the biggest margin of victory ever 330 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,280 in the series. That actually belongs to the 331 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,320 1892 game, which shouldn't count in the record books anyway 332 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,880 because Indiana had so few players that year that the 333 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,280 Indiana Daily student actually like, wrote a column shaming the 334 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,480 men of Indiana University into going and playing football 335 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,560 because they had so few people on the team That was 68. 336 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Years we also played the alumni association. 337 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,000 I was, yes, and like and like the Indianapolis Light Armory as 338 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,040 well, but that that was a 68. I mean, you know, that year 339 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,800 Georgia had a great CFP chance OPS. 340 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,000 That but that was that was 68 to nothing but that this is the 341 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,839 second largest margin in the entire series history, which 342 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,520 this is the one in modern football. 343 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:20,920 So I think this one counts a little bit more. 344 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,440 But yeah, look, it it I don't know that we'll it's there's a 345 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,480 column by Greg Doyle in the star today that basically kind of 346 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,440 highlights the separation right now between Purdue and Indiana. 347 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,760 And, you know, Indiana's never been this good. 348 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,440 It's true. And Purdue, you know, there are 349 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,920 probably have been years where they've been about this bad, but 350 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,440 they've never been worse than they are this year. 351 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,080 I just, it's fascinating to me how quick all of this happened. 352 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:50,160 You know, you know, I mean, that's the one thing that I keep 353 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,080 coming back to. You know, we watched the bucket 354 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,440 game last year and it just felt like that was a bad Purdue team. 355 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,640 Like you didn't, you didn't look at that Purdue team and say that 356 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,320 they're very good. You know, that Purdue team last 357 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,080 year, what did, what did they even finish last year? 358 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:09,160 They were, they were 4:00 and 8:00 and they beat Indiana 35 to 359 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,120 31. And there was one of the more 360 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:16,280 demoralizing things, like when you think about Kurt Signetti's 361 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,480 comments on his early time in Bloomington after he got hired 362 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,320 and talking about how everybody was so down in the dumps and was 363 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,160 so negative about football. That loss to Purdue was a big 364 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,880 reason why. It's like, wow, we couldn't pull 365 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,720 it together to win against what was a a really subpar Purdue 366 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,640 team last year. It's wild that 365 days later, 367 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,840 Indiana hangs 66 on Purdue on route to finishing an 11 and one 368 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,920 regular season Purdue is dead in the water. 369 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,400 They their one win was against Indiana State this year. 370 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,720 I mean, you know, that is the ultimate in that escalated 371 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,520 quickly. You know, Purdue fans that I've 372 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,200 talked to about this are just kind of like what, you know, the 373 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,760 Signeti thing just kind of came in like a tornado and was so 374 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,480 fast. And it's been such a, an extreme 375 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,800 makeover. We've seen these programs kind 376 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,880 of tangle back and forth. They've kind of been in the same 377 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,960 morass for the last 2530 years trading spots. 378 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,840 This is just so different. It's so unexpected that 379 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,560 Indiana's pulled it together like this. 380 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,880 And this being the end result is is something that's fascinating 381 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,360 and kind of hard to get your head wrapped around. 382 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,560 Yeah, no, the the one year, even if you go back, you know, 2021, 383 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,040 that was the year, you know, IU under Allen did not have the 384 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,640 great backup to you know, that was the year I think they went 385 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,080 was like 2 and 10, two and 10. But Purdue was nine and four 386 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,640 that year. You know that they have Brahm it 387 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,920 it looks like, you know, they are they have a win over 388 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,040 Michigan State, who is ranked 9th at the time. 389 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,280 You know, that's a team that goes to a bowl. 390 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,480 I remember at the time thinking like, man, how are we gonna, how 391 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,720 are we gonna come back from this? 392 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,840 So I, I guess a little bit of humility. 393 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,080 These things can flip quickly. At least right now. 394 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,440 It does feel it. It is very much, it's 395 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,080 unbelievable how quickly this has turned 'cause it has been 12 396 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,880 months, but even, you know, four or five years in a row it, it 397 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,440 was just Purdue would kind of own the series out outside of, 398 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,680 you know. In 2022, Purdue was in the Big 399 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,440 10 title game. Now they backed in because of 400 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,200 the, the, the hideousness of the Big 10 W, but they were in the 401 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,280 Big 10 title game in December of 2022. 402 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,040 It's wild. But in less than two years, 403 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,520 things have flipped to this degree. 404 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:31,760 And look, I, I think Purdue's got to do something. 405 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,400 It feels like I, I don't know how you keep Walters as your 406 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,480 head coach at this point. Now that's their business, not 407 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,400 mine obviously, but they lost like 3 recruits this week who 408 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:47,520 reopened their commitment there. Look, I'd I wouldn't have wanted 409 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,120 it was actually I will. I want to talk about the weather 410 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:52,120 a minute, but as a prelude to that, it wasn't that bad 411 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,960 yesterday at the game. I didn't think it was that cold, 412 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,720 but you could see Purdue just did not want to have any part of 413 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,040 efforting in that environment. They kind of, they just kind of 414 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:08,000 gave up the effort early. I so I just, Purdue feels like 415 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,360 has to do something. I don't know what they do at 416 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:13,880 this point, but it is a really fascinating spot for them to be. 417 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,800 And like you said, these things can change very quickly. 418 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,640 Well, when what's, what's awesome is what all they're 419 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,600 going to talk about now in for the, the next 5 or 6 months in 420 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,280 West Lafayette is we got to do what Indiana did right? 421 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,720 Which is great. Like, because they're going to 422 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,280 look at it and be like, God damn it, Like how do we, how do we 423 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,520 get our, that is exactly what they're going to be saying, 424 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,200 which, which just makes me even happier. 425 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,800 It's not just we got to solve a problem. 426 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,200 It's like we got to go do exactly what Indiana did. 427 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,720 I want to play multimedia corner here real quick. 428 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,440 Just a couple of beautiful things from this game. 429 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,080 So if you're on YouTube, which you should, it's, it's fun to 430 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,280 see us. It's fun to see you. 431 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,640 YouTube's great. Earlier in the week you had the 432 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,720 Georgia, Georgia Tech game which had this win probability, which 433 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,520 you're not watching on YouTube is maybe the wildest win 434 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:03,080 probability I've ever seen where it literally goes 100% both ways 435 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,600 like 5 different times. I never thought I'd see 436 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,320 something weirder than that. But if you look at the win 437 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,520 probability for the Purdue, Indiana game, it literally just 438 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,800 goes at 100% and then just stays there. 439 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,840 It's maybe like 9394% it. It's unbelievable. 440 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:24,040 And then I will say, I thought we had hit our peak with bucket 441 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,960 and cigar pictures for Indiana football. 442 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,640 But then Mike Kadik, who just was like Mr. Bucket for the 443 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,560 entire night. There's memes of him going on 444 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,000 with like pictures of guys with buckets, but there's a picture 445 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,160 of him in the weight room with a bucket and a cigar. 446 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,040 Not the Xander Diamant, but just just great stuff out there. 447 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,520 And but those wind probabilities were were unbelievable. 448 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,280 And Indiana 1 is just great. Just seeing it like 100% the 449 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,600 whole way there, I was like, we were text. 450 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,920 I had to text Shane with some friends. 451 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:55,000 There's a Purdue guy on there and it's like the third quarter, 452 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,400 we texted that out and he's like, oh, you're still saying 453 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,280 there's a .0001% chance? Right. 454 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,760 I know. Yeah. 455 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,840 I mean, look, it was just such a dominant performance by Indiana. 456 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,920 And again, they needed it right at at that spot more than 457 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,520 anything else to just kind of silence the haters a little bit. 458 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,400 Let's talk a little bit about the environment. 459 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,600 That was so much fun. I mean, the snow started to fall 460 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:23,160 a little bit around 4430. I, we, we modified our tailgate 461 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,800 schedule because there was concern. 462 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,320 I don't want to get people too cold. 463 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,640 You know, it's like we got to make it through the whole game. 464 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,160 So we started our tailgate a little later than normal, about 465 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,680 445 still had a bunch of people show up, which was awesome to 466 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,400 see. And then we just kind of watched 467 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,760 as the snow continued to fall. By the time he got into the 468 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,160 stadium, there was a dusting, the snow was flying in the 469 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,240 lights. It just, it was so picturesque. 470 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,400 I hope they got some drone footage or something of it 471 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,080 throughout the course of the game. 472 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,880 And it was really quite pleasant. 473 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,800 Like if you I'm I'm not people know, not a big cold weather 474 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,800 guy, don't really like going outside that much. 475 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,240 I was not bothered by the environment or the conditions. 476 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:06,760 It just felt like a lot of fun the whole time and again, it's 477 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,400 it the whole place just looked like a snow globe that just 478 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,080 continually had a little bit of agitation then and stuff was 479 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,880 popping into the air. It was it's a lasting visual for 480 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,960 me. Scott like to to and, and I 481 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,680 think we were worried all week about the crowd. 482 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,920 We were worried all week that people were going to be too 483 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,800 cold. Ticket prices were bouncing 484 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,440 around about two hours before the game. 485 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,280 I think the get in price was like $9. 486 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,680 But Scott, I mean, people were there like it was, it was about 487 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,560 95% full. People were loud, people were 488 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,680 excited. Yes, the stands started to clear 489 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,920 out some of the third quarter 'cause I think people kind of 490 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,520 hit their limit a little bit at that point. 491 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,720 But you know, I stayed for the whole game, got to see all of 492 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,560 the scores. It just was one of those party 493 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,680 atmospheres the whole time in there. 494 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,640 And I think that as much as we were worried about IU fans 495 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,720 flaking out because of the cold weather, I give a big salute to 496 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,360 everybody that showed up for the game. 497 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,760 And it was just that that's the that's the reason why you go to 498 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,920 those games. And that's that kind of 499 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,160 environment really makes Memorial Stadium a tremendously 500 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,880 fun place to be. That's awesome. 501 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,080 I was one of the guys who flaked out. 502 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,680 Sorry. Well, here's here's my We were 503 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,920 going to go Friday night. We went to the state 504 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,560 championship game in Lucas Oil because Westfield was playing. 505 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,240 Everyone who was in charge of that should be fired right now. 506 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,320 So if you work at West Lucas Oil you should be fired. 507 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,200 They have like 3 entrances open the lines to get in. 508 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,520 Took us 25 minutes waiting to get into a stadium for a high 509 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,240 school football game, but we're standing outside and our kids 510 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,600 were not super happy. Our 8 year old was really not 511 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,840 enjoying the cold and we were just like, look, this is about 512 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,080 the same temperature as it's going to be in Bloomington. 513 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,240 If it wasn't for the kids at which is you could say a lot of 514 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,840 things in life, I, I would have been there. 515 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,680 I'm, I'm sure your, your kids probably weren't there the 516 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,360 entire time like that. That's what we are wrestling 517 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:54,280 with is driving all the way down there and then having them just 518 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,280 be absolutely freezing and miserable. 519 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,000 I think my wife and I could have made it. 520 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,440 We're actually trying to find a babysitter kind of last minute. 521 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,120 Couldn't do it so we, we decided to you know what I just don't 522 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:07,600 want to fight an 8 year old the entire time on, you know, and, 523 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,920 and just going to find some place warm and then watching on 524 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,440 TV like what's the point? So I almost thought about going 525 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,640 myself. I'm very bummed I didn't make 526 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,320 it, but I, I still love my kids and but I, I wasn't we were not 527 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,920 able to go. We were able to get the tickets. 528 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,080 We had some friends who were down there who are IU fans who 529 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,160 took the tickets. So we did not we, we gave them 530 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,200 to, to to good use. But yeah, unfortunately just it 531 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,680 was going to be too cold for the kids. 532 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,840 Well, it happens. It was, it was there were a 533 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,000 decent number of kids at the stadium, but not as many as they 534 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,080 normally were. There's normally a big 535 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,960 congregation of them that like right near where my seats are. 536 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,200 And so it was, it was interesting the the crowd that 537 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,280 did show up because I mean, the, the students showed up at where 538 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,560 there weren't as many students, I think as they normally were. 539 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,120 And it wasn't quite as loud down there. 540 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:55,480 But I give the alums and everybody else that was in the 541 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,400 stands just a lot of credit for what they brought to the table. 542 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,880 And it got loud and I think people just really were enjoying 543 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,760 themselves, it felt like. And and I was really, I was 544 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,240 pleased. On TV, it looked. 545 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,280 Awesome. Yeah, it really was. 546 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,440 So, so Indiana finishes 11 and one. 547 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,760 And, you know, as we've talked about, Scott, a lot of things 548 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,960 that are in play as far as the College Football Playoff is 549 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,840 concerned, that becomes the the focus. 550 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,640 There was a glimmer of hope early on in the day that Indiana 551 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,720 might backdoor their way into the Big 10 championship game 552 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,280 with Ohio State losing to Michigan. 553 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,320 Apparently, Michigan's now good. I, I, you know, Indiana beat 554 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,920 Michigan and, and they actually got penalized for it in the eyes 555 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,240 of a lot of people because they'd only beat them by 5. 556 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,000 Now Michigan is apparently good now because they beat Ohio State 557 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,320 by three, No. But that doesn't matter toward 558 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,920 IU now. Ohio State's bad now. 559 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,160 Ohio State's bad that's. Actually what what has changed? 560 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,240 Michigan was was still bad for us, but Ohio State's now bad. 561 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,960 Also no longer a good loss like those SEC losses. 562 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:06,120 The the Maryland Terrapins took a 7 nothing or 7 three weeks. 563 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,640 Maryland's action going to help us out at one point. 564 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,440 This no, no, not going to happen. 565 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,640 So you know that that dream died. 566 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,240 Maryland finishes one and eight. A terrible season for them and, 567 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,520 and, and like many of Indiana opponents, they simply could not 568 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,960 hold up their end of the bargain in the games that they played 569 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,680 this year. I mean, it's amazing to me. 570 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,520 State could have made a bowl and been a 500 team helped out. 571 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,080 It's like now we'll just get completely throttled by Rutgers. 572 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,880 Nebraska could have gone seven and five and and maybe knocked 573 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,120 on the door getting ranked. Nope. 574 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:34,960 They blew it in the second-half against Iowa. 575 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,040 You know, UCLA had USC, you know, to rights last week. 576 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,400 And of course they lose that game. 577 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,840 So they're 5:00 and 7:00. You know, Washington, they at 578 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,920 least finished 6th and 6th. Thank you Washington. 579 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,160 But then they have a chance to maybe do something against 580 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,800 Oregon. No, they get boat raced in that 581 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,720 game. At least Michigan we can, we can 582 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,280 tip our caps to Michigan. They at least went out and made 583 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,440 something of themselves as the season came to a close. 584 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,720 So thank you Michigan for that. But you can point. 585 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:02,240 Your flag wherever you want. Now we'll allow it. 586 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,880 But so it ends up with Oregon and Penn State now being in the 587 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,800 Big 10 title game. And Indiana essentially has two 588 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,560 things that they're waiting for right now. 589 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,600 One is the College Football Playoff reveal for this upcoming 590 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,520 week. And I think things played out 591 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,960 very favorably for Indiana. Not there wasn't like everything 592 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,200 went favorably or as favorably as it could have gone for 593 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,200 Indiana. But the results that Indiana 594 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,480 needed were there. I mean, it would have been great 595 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,960 if Georgia had lost that game to Georgia Tech that I will. 596 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,920 I will constantly look back on that and wonder what if in terms 597 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,280 of seating, right? But you know, you go down the 598 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,320 rest of the of the the list of things. 599 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,880 Ohio State losing is big because it not only hands Ohio State a 600 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,200 second loss whereas Indiana only has one. 601 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,760 It also puts Penn State now into a position where they could pick 602 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,920 up a second loss playing Oregon in the college football or, 603 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,160 excuse me, in the Big 10 championship game, which in that 604 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,760 scenario would leave Indiana as the only one loss team. 605 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,720 But do you think in the Big 10? Yes. 606 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,360 Do you? Think there's any way that Ohio 607 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,280 State or Penn State go below Indiana in the rankings? 608 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,680 Even with, I mean, it's hard to probably not, but I could see a 609 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,160 scenario if Penn State loses big to Oregon where, you know, 610 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,800 perhaps there is some consideration about moving 611 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,440 Indiana ahead of Penn State. Because right now, I mean, if 612 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,720 you think about it, you know, Indiana lost against Ohio State 613 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,360 and they dropped in the rankings by 5 spots, which I think was 614 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,720 extreme given what else has occurred. 615 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,920 And I'm fascinated to see what happens to Ohio State. 616 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920 You know, do they get dropped below Indiana? 617 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,720 Probably not because of the head to head, but the reality is they 618 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,560 lost a game at home to Michigan. That has to count for something. 619 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,680 Yeah, Penn State, it's like. Team, We lost the number two 620 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,720 team in the country, like right. Right now I'm projecting that 621 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,400 Penn State will be #3 in the country, in the CFP rankings, 622 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,400 it'll go Oregon, Texas, Penn State, Notre Dame, Georgia, 623 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,880 Tennessee, Ohio State, SMU, Indiana, Boise State, Miami, 624 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,360 Arizona State. That would be my guess right 625 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,120 now. As far as where we where we land 626 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,400 with this next CFP, it it is certainly possible if Penn State 627 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,520 loses by a large margin that they could drop five spots. 628 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,840 I don't know if they dropped six. 629 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,720 But then it kind of comes down to what other results happen. 630 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,640 And you know, what's going to be interesting is like you, you 631 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,120 want Texas to beat Georgia now because you want to hand Georgia 632 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,480 another loss. And maybe the committee will 633 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,080 finally look at Georgia and say, I don't know about you. 634 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,560 You may not actually be that good. 635 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,800 You know, you or hey, losses actually matter. 636 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,400 Maybe losses will matter. Yeah. 637 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:45,040 And I think as as good of a story as they are, SMU losing to 638 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,760 Clemson would be probably good for Indiana from a seating 639 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,640 perspective. I don't know if Clemson would 640 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,760 get knocked or excuse me, if SMU would get knocked out. 641 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,200 But Clemson losing yesterday, that was the other big result 642 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,800 means that they are not going to jump up into the CFP top 11. 643 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,320 And that was a real concern with where they were at this last 644 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,200 week. That was kind of the big one 645 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,320 where as I got, if they beat South Carolina, I could see the 646 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,520 committee trying to justify them in ahead of Indiana. 647 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,320 But if they beat SMU in the title game, if if you that 648 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,040 that's two teams then right? Like would that be a bid stealer 649 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,000 situation if SMU is still in the top 12? 650 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,960 Yeah, it's, it's a well, here's the thing. 651 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,480 I, I don't know exactly how they would deal with all of that 652 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,880 because it's like I could see Clemson being in a situation 653 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:36,240 where they knock both ACC teams out if they win the, the ACC 654 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,200 title game, or I could see them keeping one in but not the 655 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,960 other. It's kind of unfair. 656 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600 But I mean, SMU, it kind of feels like they have to win the 657 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,520 ACC title game in order to get in because a loss to Clemson 658 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,720 would be now a loss to a three loss team. 659 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,960 And then with would that also take Miami out? 660 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,720 Because it wouldn't make sense to have Miami in ahead of SMU 661 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,960 because SMU made the title game and Miami didn't. 662 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,960 So I don't know it's this is, this is where, when they, when 663 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,920 they, when they've said to us, we're not going to penalize 664 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,120 teams that lose in the conference title game. 665 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,400 I, I do wonder and I'd love to hear some clarity on this. 666 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Maybe it's been asked and answered already, but do they 667 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,800 mean we're not going to drop A-Team out of the playoff for 668 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,360 something that happens in the in the title game for your 669 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,520 conference? Or does it mean you're going to 670 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,360 stay in the draw, but we're going to drop you down from a 671 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,320 seating perspective? That's that's a really 672 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,280 interesting open question. And that's where it's like, if 673 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,040 they're not going to drop seating, then yeah, I think 674 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,160 Indiana probably doesn't have a great shot to host. 675 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,560 But I could see a scenario where if Oregon beats Penn State, if 676 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,080 Texas beats Georgia, now Indiana maybe ends up 6th in the final 677 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,280 CFP poll. And that would make them an 678 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,040 eighth seed. And that would have them hosting 679 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,560 in the first round. But it really does depend at 680 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,040 that point on whether the committee would move Indiana 681 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,720 ahead of Penn State. They feel like at this point, 682 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,720 the biggest obstacle to Indiana potentially hosting a first 683 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,760 round playoff game. Yeah, I know. 684 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,880 I I've, and I've been saying this for a couple weeks to you 685 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,320 too, Like I'm just, I'm really curious to see how they handle 686 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,000 these, these the, the title, the conference title game. 687 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,159 They're, they're setting a precedent. 688 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,960 And, and yeah, it's like, are they going to, to me? 689 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,920 There's a couple of questions, like are you going to readjust 690 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,840 seating? Are you just going to say, all 691 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,480 you can do is improve yourself? You can't really hurt yourself. 692 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,159 You know, you made it. That's a bonus. 693 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,040 You know, that's something that other teams did, which is true. 694 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,840 It's like you, you're Georgia, you made the SEC championship 695 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,400 game. But I also think I would love, 696 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,199 I, I hope they don't, I hope the committee doesn't get to skate 697 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:31,080 on this one. Like I hope that Texas beats 698 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,960 Georgia or Clemson beats SMU because I want to see the answer 699 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,080 of, OK, you're in the top 12, you go to your playoff game, you 700 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,239 lose. Theoretically, if Georgia or SMU 701 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,440 loses, they should be out. Are they going to be out? 702 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,159 Because that also sets an interesting precedent because I 703 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,840 mean, it's it's been talked about, you know, again, with 704 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,000 Indiana, we should have forfeited all of our games based 705 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,080 on ESPN. But it's been talked about, you 706 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,760 know, if you want to win the title, does the, you know, 707 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,000 conference championship game help or hurt you? 708 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,480 I think it's a little bit absurd. 709 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,280 Like if you're Indiana, you make the Big 10 title game, you go 710 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,840 play like you just, you go play that. 711 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,160 I don't care what, but it's going to be interesting if they 712 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,800 do bounce A-Team. That's setting an interesting 713 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,960 precedent where it's like, all right now, now you do need to 714 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,360 look at maybe we need to re engineer how this works for 715 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,520 college, you know, for the, for the big conferences and, and 716 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,880 they'll probably just go to 16 teams and get both the team's 717 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,320 automatic bids that make it or something. 718 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,200 But I, I'm very curious to see what would happen there. 719 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,520 And I, I hope if Georgia SMU both win, then I'm going to be a 720 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,480 little bit annoyed because I want to see how the committee 721 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,240 answers. This. 722 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,240 There's some as. I've also said too, it's like if 723 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,680 you're not going to, if you're not going to bump people, then 724 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,040 just get, get come out with like here's our 12 teams, like don't 725 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,120 rank them, but here's the 12 going into the title games and 726 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,760 we'll rank them after that. And if you're not going to 727 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,200 adjust seating, then just give us a bracket now. 728 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,320 But I mean, I know you're not going to do that 'cause you need 729 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,320 another week of TV and all that, but it's there. 730 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,080 There are some really interesting questions that 731 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,760 haven't had clarity and it does affect Indiana. 732 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,600 I, I agree with you. I think Indiana is in I, I think 733 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,080 our path to a home game is very tight. 734 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,800 I think it's still possible, but more than likely we're probably 735 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,560 going to be on the road. Yeah. 736 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,720 I mean, I think at this point you're probably right. 737 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:20,520 I think a lot of it depends on what is the committee end up 738 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,320 doing this week with the rankings. 739 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,640 And you know, you can go down the list and I'm going to pop 740 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,160 the list up here on on YouTube so those of you who are watching 741 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,600 can see what we're talking about. 742 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,720 Let me let me call this up real quick here. 743 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,520 So if you look here on the left and sorry for my voice a little 744 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,400 too much screaming in enjoy last night at the game for me. 745 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,000 I'm going to zoom in on that a little bit. 746 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:51,040 So so you've got Oregon who won. So they're 12 and no, they'll be 747 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,560 the number one team. So Ohio State loses. 748 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,960 Logically, Texas, who beats Texas A&M will become #2 right, 749 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,000 you've got. So how far does Ohio State fall 750 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,760 with a loss like that at home to Michigan? 751 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,160 That becomes the operative question. 752 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,080 You figure they're going to fall below Penn State, who'll move up 753 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,960 to third. They're going to fall below 754 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,520 Notre Dame, who was very impressive to give them their 755 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,080 their credit at USC. So Notre Dame will be 4th, Miami 756 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,600 lost, Georgia winning. It's like, you hate to give them 757 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,440 credit, but this is where the this is where the committee get 758 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,040 has gotten itself. I think it is some trouble 759 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,040 because the committee is going to be like, well, we can't rank 760 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,440 Georgia behind Tennessee because Tennessee lost to Georgia. 761 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,360 Even though if you look at how they just played and I think you 762 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,080 could make an argument over the course of the season, Tennessee 763 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,480 may actually be a slightly more impressive team right now than 764 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,640 Georgia is. You know, so, but the 765 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,360 committee's almost certainly going to be like, we can't do 766 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,480 that. So that leaves Georgia as the 767 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,000 the what, the five seed or the the fifth team in the poll. 768 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,640 Then you've got who's next? You know, Miami lost. 769 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,600 So Tennessee moves up right behind Georgia. 770 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,040 SMU, they're not going to drop. Does Indiana end up So does does 771 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,160 Ohio State stay ahead of SMU or do they fall behind SMU? 772 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,160 Ohio State will certainly, because of the same logic I just 773 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,720 described, stay ahead of Indiana even though they've got one more 774 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:22,840 loss than Indiana. Boise State will likely stay 775 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,680 behind Indiana. There was nothing that happened 776 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,680 in their game that would have moved them ahead of Indiana. 777 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,240 So then what happens? Does Miami fall to 11th? 778 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:33,560 Does Miami, with that second loss, fall further? 779 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,920 You look down and you start to see the teams that are there. 780 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,800 Well, Clemson, who was 12th just on the outside lost, Alabama 781 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,520 won. So they're going to move Alabama 782 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,080 up. They're going to keep Alabama 783 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,760 ahead of Ole Miss. Certainly these are the things 784 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,040 that I think are really fascinating with this whole 785 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,960 process because as you start to go down and, and look at the, 786 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,800 the remainder of the pole and the rankings, it's, it's just 787 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,120 not as clear cut as one might think in terms of where the 788 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,640 rankings go from there. And, and I'm really curious 789 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,960 because it feels like the committee's been so reactionary 790 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,880 in certain ways with not in others, but they have more or 791 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,240 less been consistent in saying, well, if you're winning games 792 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:16,310 that we're going to reward that and we're going to reward head 793 00:39:16,307 --> 00:39:31,960 to So I feel like at this point it 794 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,120 would be a a a scandal of the highest order if Indiana wasn't 795 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,080 in the top 12 of the CFP. Well, I think we, we move up a 796 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,160 spot no matter what, right? Because my, we're going ahead 797 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,400 of. My, we don't go ahead of Miami. 798 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,120 And so the question becomes like in the pecking order. 799 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,040 I'm just curious, like does does the committee look at SMU and 800 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,960 say, well, we're going to keep SMU above Indiana simply because 801 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,480 we've had SMU above Indiana? When you look at the actual 802 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,120 like, you know, the, the, the statistics, Indiana's got a 803 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,160 better strength of schedule than SMU, better strength of record, 804 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,320 arguably has better wins overall. 805 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,600 Like there's not a lot there for SMU to say definitively they're 806 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,720 better than Indiana. That's why I was kind of 807 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,600 irritated that they ranked SMU ahead of Indiana in the last 808 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,760 one. I'm just really curious to see 809 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,400 what they do with all of this because their logic is starting 810 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,680 to eat itself a little bit. Yeah, because theoretically, if 811 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,520 you're having good wins and good, you know, showing a lot of 812 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,040 good stuff on tape, we should move up a spot just based on our 813 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,960 our performance. The the other thing I think is 814 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,640 going to be really interesting is, you know, this is this is a 815 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,720 playoff to find the champion, but this is also a a chess match 816 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:41,200 between the SEC and the Big 10. And it just like you said, you 817 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,880 know, in previous years, like when when Indiana didn't make 818 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,200 make it in 2020, it was based on giving yourself the best chance 819 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,280 to win a title. That's still, you know, now it's 820 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,640 tonnage. How many can you get in? 821 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,360 But there's also going to be some and I'm sure the Big 10 822 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,040 internally is thinking of this. You also want to give yourself 823 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,200 the best chance to win a title and with having three at large 824 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,000 teams, I'm sure there's going to be some jockeying to let's not 825 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,280 have Indiana play Penn State or Ohio State in the first round. 826 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,080 If they can get their all three at larges separated and have a 827 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,120 chance of getting 4 into the quarterfinals, that's more 828 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,440 preferable than having two automatically knock one off. 829 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,760 If you're the SEC, that's what you're going to want. 830 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,920 So it's going to be really curious to see how that comes in 831 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,240 because yes, they're taking all these things into account, but 832 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,760 there's also a fact that if you're the Big 10, you want more 833 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,080 bites of the apple and the farther your teams make, the 834 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,600 more money you make. So all, everything you said is 835 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,080 real. But if I'm the big 10, it's 836 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,840 like, all right, all of that makes sense. 837 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,360 But if it, if it, if we do all that based on, you know, our, 838 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,320 our metrics and it comes up that Indiana and Penn State are 8-9, 839 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,400 maybe I'm just like, hey, let's make Indiana 11. 840 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,560 Just, you know, can we re engineer it? 841 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,440 So we could possibly have Oregon, Indiana, Ohio State and 842 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,120 Penn State all make the quarterfinals. 843 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,280 It's a really interesting question. 844 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,560 I mean, if you look at the where I'm projecting it right now 845 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,120 based upon those rankings that I had earlier and assuming Arizona 846 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,920 State ends up winning the the Big 12, the first round matchups 847 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,120 in in my projected CFP. And this is of course we, we 848 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,880 still have conference championship week to go. 849 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,480 You'd have Penn State hosting Arizona State in a 512 game. 850 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,240 You'd have Notre Dame hosting Miami in the 611. 851 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,680 You'd have Georgia hosting Indiana in the 710. 852 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,920 And you'd have Tennessee, Ohio State in the 8-9 and. 853 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,600 I got you Georgia Tech. Like Georgia Tech, could you not 854 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,280 get it done and eat overtime? I know, I know there's a lot of 855 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,640 there's gonna be a lot of like just like that close kinds of 856 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,600 things. I think we'll see we're. 857 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,080 Just like the one team I really don't wanna. 858 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,720 But you know what? I gotta be honest with you, 859 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:44,440 Scott, Like George, there's something not quite right with 860 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,920 Georgia right now. I know, I realize that. 861 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,600 But again, this is where conference championship week, 862 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,760 this is where don't get attached to any of these rankings. 863 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,040 Indiana's done everything it can do. 864 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,480 And I guess I think the number one thing that I have focused on 865 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,000 with all of this is as long as Indiana pops up in, you know, 866 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,000 the top 9 of the draw, they're safe. 867 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,440 They're there's, there's nothing that's going to happen during 868 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,120 conference championship week that's going to change things 869 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,120 for Indiana as far as the play offs concerned. 870 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,880 Yeah, 'cause nobody can come in. That's not knocking somebody 871 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,880 out. That's the thing. 872 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,520 So if you look at the game, the game lineup right now for 873 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,600 championship week is as follows. You've got in the Big 12, you're 874 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,520 going to have Iowa State and Arizona State. 875 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,840 That one you that that will be the 12 seed at this point, 876 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,840 whoever wins that game, you've got Georgia, Texas, that's at 877 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,800 4:00. Now this is one where I think 878 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,080 you, you, there's two, there's two schools of thought here. 879 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,680 If Georgia is going to be in regardless, I don't think they 880 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,520 should be. But if they're if they're fifth 881 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,080 in the poll and they lose that game, even with three losses, I 882 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,720 bet the committee puts them in, but we'll probably drop them. 883 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,040 You would hope, you would hope at some point that the losses 884 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,800 might matter. But the other field, the other, 885 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,520 the other thought process. And it's probably not as valid 886 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,640 now. But it's like, well, what if 887 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,120 Texas loses that game? Does Texas become in danger of 888 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,720 dropping to like a nine seed? And could that be something 889 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:20,000 where Indiana sneaks in and gets the eight seed and hosts? 890 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,960 You've got Penn State, Oregon, who we already talked about you, 891 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,840 you want to root for Oregon in that game because you'd prefer 892 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,680 Oregon, you would rather have as the number one overall seed at 893 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,320 this point. And you'd like Penn State to get 894 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,880 that second loss. And then as you mentioned, 895 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,080 Clemson, SMU, which kind of feels like an elimination game 896 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,120 because you know, if SMU beats Clemson, there's Clemson's not 897 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,840 getting in that there's there's no there's no argument for them 898 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,400 getting in right now. Basically, this is a winner. 899 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,440 Go home for a nine and three Clemson team SMU. 900 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,080 And again, I'm going to I'm going to recite who SMU has 901 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,120 played and what the results are so far this year. 902 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,400 Here's their wins at Nevada at home versus Houston Christian. 903 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,880 Good luck finding them on the Internet. 904 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:08,280 They lost to BYU 18 to 50. 1884. Schedule or yes that's right, 905 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,400 they they travelled to Deseret and and defeated BYU alumni 906 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,440 club. Sorry, they they beat TCU who's 907 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,440 not ranked. They let 42 points up to TCU 908 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,080 rivalry game. They beat Florida State who's 909 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,680 terrible. They win at Louisville by 7. 910 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,840 They win at Stanford by 30. They win at Duke by one. 911 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,120 They beat Pitt who's terrible now they beat Boston College, 912 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,240 they win at Virginia and then they win at home against Cal. 913 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,600 And again, I have nothing against SMUI. 914 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,960 Love the fact that SMU is in the the hunt here. 915 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,320 I don't understand what the argument would be. 916 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,920 I still don't understand what the argument is for SMU being 917 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,720 ahead of Indiana right now. I absolutely do not see a 918 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:56,920 pathway for SMU to claim a playoff spot if they can't beat 919 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,880 Clemson. But you kind of want if you're 920 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,520 Indiana. I think you kind of want Clemson 921 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,440 to beat SMU for the seating because Clemson will be below 922 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,120 Indiana in the pecking order regardless of what happens if 923 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,840 they get in SMU. If they beat Clemson, we'll move 924 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,320 ahead of Indiana or stay ahead of Indiana, depending on what 925 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,000 the poll looks like this week. Yeah, I would also just say too 926 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,240 I I sometimes the when you start doing game to game, you know, 927 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,640 you could theoretically look at Indiana similarly. 928 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,400 But I'll just say strength of schedule is a metric that kind 929 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,880 of blends all this together. The season is now over. 930 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,040 SMU strength of schedule is 75th. 931 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,080 Ours is 65th, right. So we both have the same record. 932 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,360 We played a tougher, you know, strength of schedule. 933 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,520 You know, the the strength of schedule thing. 934 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,040 I mean, talk about just an absolute embarrassment to the 935 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,880 profession of of sports journalism. 936 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,240 What it what ESPN has tried to do with the strength of schedule 937 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:52,440 argument. Just absolute embarrassment is 938 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,520 what they should be feeling at at college football headquarters 939 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,480 at ESPN. All of that talk about strength 940 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,960 of schedule, comparing in like incomplete schedules at the end 941 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,080 of October, in the beginning of November and trying to use that 942 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,000 as a wedge argument against Indiana being in the College 943 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,600 Football Playoff draw. Just absolutely disgusting on 944 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,880 the part of ESPN doing that. Here's what it ended up as. 945 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,760 OK, the Oregon Ducks, the number one team in the country, their 946 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,440 strength of schedule number is 60, right? 947 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,560 Indiana's the 65th. Indiana play the equivalent of 948 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,560 Oregon scheduled this year if you take it in totality. 949 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,400 Notre Dame 57th in strength of schedule, only 8 spots off 950 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,920 Indiana, as you mentioned, Indiana 10 spots higher in 951 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:43,000 strength of schedule than SMU. Indiana 65th in strength of 952 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:43,880 schedule. Boise State. 953 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,360 We haven't heard a thing about Boise State's strength of 954 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,600 schedule. All we've heard was, oh, they 955 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,160 had a great close loss at Oregon, 86th in strength of 956 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,600 schedule. Scott 86th and you can go down 957 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,120 the list. I mean, you know, Miami 55th, 10 958 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,920 spots ahead of Indiana. They're right in the same 959 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,520 ballpark. So this is where, you know, this 960 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,760 entire argument against Indiana has been so disingenuous, not 961 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,600 just because of the the misuse of statistics out of context, 962 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,520 but also because strength of schedule should really only 963 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,080 matter when you're looking at the totality of a team's season 964 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,240 and trying to figure out how well did they do against who 965 00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:21,320 they played. There's a metric for that as 966 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,680 well, which is strength of record. 967 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,840 Indiana's 8th in the country in strength of record. 968 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,760 These are the things that I think have been the most 969 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,080 disturbing about this process. Fortunately, Indiana has put 970 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,800 themselves in a position where I don't think it's going to 971 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,160 matter, but this is these are things we're going to remember 972 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,680 as we move forward. Oh, no, I and it's, it's what's 973 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,240 annoyed me the most is I've said this a multiple times. 974 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,680 They, they framed the discussion. 975 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,160 They anchored, I'm sorry, they anchored Indiana as a bad 976 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,040 strength of schedule team. And that just became what 977 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,200 everybody anchored to. And then it just stuck. 978 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,360 But it's because, you know, yes, at one point before we had 979 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,400 played Michigan and Ohio State, we were 120th or something, but 980 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,280 we hadn't played everybody. And they would show that stat 981 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,200 without ever mentioning the fact that, yes, when we play Ohio 982 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,160 State, no matter what the result is, it's going to be cut in half 983 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,520 and we're going to go from 120 to 50. 984 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,000 So let let's just like, let's wait. 985 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,320 And like, part of the reason Penn State had a better strength 986 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,960 of schedule is they had played Ohio State. 987 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,240 Nobody brought that up. It just became a game to game 988 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,640 comparison, which that's so subjective because then you 989 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,320 could be like, oh, well, Michigan didn't look great and 990 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,360 they didn't look great against it. 991 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,560 You can start, you can parse that out however you want. 992 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,480 And they did it because you saw every time we looked good, it's 993 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,560 like, well, that team sucks. And every time we looked, 994 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,800 didn't, you know, blow someone's doors off, suddenly the fact 995 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,880 that we blew other doors off became a negative to us because 996 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,720 like, well, they normally win 47 to nothing. 997 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:44,320 Why are they only beating Michigan by 8? 998 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,360 It's like, well, you don't win every game like that. 999 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,480 No, it's, it's very disingenuous. 1000 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,400 And the fact that they never caveated, you know, Indiana's 1001 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,560 going to get down. Let's look at a projected end of 1002 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,800 year strength of schedule and see where everybody lines up or 1003 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,160 just, you know, it it it, it felt very one sided. 1004 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,400 I didn't, I didn't like it either. 1005 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,720 But I'm with you and you know, we should be 9 this week. 1006 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,600 There's no question like Miami should be below us. 1007 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,560 There's nobody who's going to jump us. 1008 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,880 They're probably not going to put us ahead of SMU, even though 1009 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,160 the the stats have changed. You know, our strength of 1010 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,120 schedule is better, theirs is worse. 1011 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,000 We have the same record. We play in a better conference. 1012 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,560 I I don't know why but the only SMU question I do have is they 1013 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,520 join the ACC. They didn't take any TV money. 1014 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,880 This was a very minor. Question, They didn't take any 1015 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,800 TV money. If they make the College 1016 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,200 Football Playoff, are they allowed to take that money? 1017 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,440 I'm just I'm curious. They are, They are. 1018 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,840 It's a good question. But it's because the that money 1019 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,520 is a different pot of money. Yeah. 1020 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,840 So it's, it's one of those things where the, the, the 1021 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:56,280 yearly payout that the ACC gets from ESPN is a separate pot of 1022 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,040 money because it's negotiated separately than the CFP money. 1023 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,000 And so that's where yes, they would be able to take them. 1024 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,520 That's a good question though. It's interesting, but. 1025 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:03,640 They're playing for their paycheck. 1026 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,920 Yeah, the Ari Wasserman from on three just published his 1027 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,160 bracketology or so to speak, the bubble watch. 1028 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,080 So he has the last four in again. 1029 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,440 Sorry for my voice, folks. He has the last four in as Ohio 1030 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,800 State, Tennessee, Indiana and SMU. 1031 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,960 And I mean, he's probably right because you know, you think 1032 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,000 about it, you've got you, you know that you've got your 4 1033 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,040 conference champions who get in ahead there. 1034 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,320 His first four out this is. And his, his capsule about 1035 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,200 Indiana is interesting because it feeds right into the first 1036 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,720 four out. I'll read from this. 1037 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,000 Had there not been a collection of shocking results, Indiana 1038 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,800 could have found itself in a position where it was being 1039 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,480 compared to two loss SEC teams with perceived quality wins. 1040 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,760 But Alabama and Ole Miss losing last weekend paved the way for 1041 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,000 the Hoosiers to crack the field. I I think that's accurate. 1042 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,600 And it's, it sucks that that's what the the perception has 1043 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,360 been, but that's ultimately what did it. 1044 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,360 All these results that happened over the last two weeks helped 1045 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,760 Indiana get themselves into a position where they don't have 1046 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,320 to be reasonably compared to Alabama, Ole Miss, South 1047 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,960 Carolina. So those are three of the first 1048 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,400 four out that Wasserman has in his the fourth team he has out 1049 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,960 right now is Miami. And I think that that's a really 1050 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,440 interesting one to think about because, you know, ultimately 1051 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,840 you, you end up with a situation where Miami, if they if they 1052 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,600 that loss to Syracuse, which is a bad loss, if that really is 1053 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,520 disqualifying, then Indiana should feel even safer at this 1054 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,000 point. And again, you want to root for 1055 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,440 Clemson to beat SMU for the seating purposes. 1056 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,400 So in this bracket, he he would have Ohio State, Tennessee is 1057 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,040 the 8-9 Penn State, UNLV is the 512. 1058 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:45,080 That's assuming that UNLV beats Boise State, Indiana, Georgia as 1059 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,840 the 10/7 and then SMU, Notre Dame as the 611 with the the 1060 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,400 Champions it with the byes being Oregon, Arizona State, Texas and 1061 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,080 Clemson. Now obviously if Boise State 1062 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,040 wins in the Mountain West final, they would take that spot of 1063 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,760 Arizona State and they would flip that with with UNLV. 1064 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,920 We'll see some of these other ones I think. 1065 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,000 I think Heather Dimich's projection was somewhat similar. 1066 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,440 On ESPN. She had Oregon, Texas, Penn 1067 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,800 State, Notre Dame, Georgia, Ohio State. 1068 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,440 I think Ohio State's way too high there at 6, Tennessee, SMU 1069 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,120 and then Indiana at 9th with Boise State, Miami and Alabama 1070 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,240 below. I just, you know, here's the 1071 00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:26,040 thing that's interesting that. Paul Finebaum has his. 1072 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,720 It's Texas one, Georgia 2, Tennessee 3, Alabama 4, South 1073 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:34,800 Carolina 5A and M6 LSU 7. You know, Oregon's on the 1074 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,160 bubble, which I I can see like they've, you know, have they 1075 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,400 really stuck up to, you know, the Florida, you know, four and 1076 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,120 four? Sorry. 1077 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,360 Yeah, I look. So I don't know how they sort 1078 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,720 out all of those teams that are going to be in that morass of 1079 00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:49,760 two and three lost teams down at the bottom. 1080 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,000 I just at this point, I think Indiana with such a convincing 1081 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,360 victory with their metrics looking good, with the fact that 1082 00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:00,960 they're eighth in FPI, you know, or 10th and FPI, sorry, the fact 1083 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,080 that their efficiencies across the board are still among the 1084 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,320 best in the country. I I don't. 1085 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,760 And again, 11 and one team out of one of the two power 1086 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,640 conferences like I just, I also, you know, if it was the SEC 1087 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:18,200 fighting to get, you know, you know, a three an Ole Miss team 1088 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,920 in I could see that being a problem. 1089 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,880 But this is basically against other conferences now, like 1090 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,520 you're looking at the ACC And so I, I could see the SEC you're 1091 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,240 saying like, look, I get it. Like we, we, we are the 2 powers 1092 00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:30,400 here. I don't want to set the 1093 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,040 precedent of an 11 and one team out of our conference not making 1094 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,840 it. So, you know, let's, let's not 1095 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,240 fight this one and let's, let's screw an ACC team. 1096 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,640 Yeah. Right now, Indiana is 45% to 1097 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,240 host in the first round based upon the the CFP predictor. 1098 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,640 So again, there's a shot it's a little bit less than 5050 right 1099 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,080 now. And it would require, as we 1100 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,960 talked about those 3 results happening where Oregon kind of 1101 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,360 blows out Penn State, which is certainly possible. 1102 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,000 I, I don't think Penn State's played an offense quite like 1103 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,080 Oregon's this year. Texas beating Georgia is, is a 1104 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,080 key part of this. And then if that happens, do you 1105 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,920 think Georgia's out? We'll see. 1106 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,200 Here's the thing. And I've been, I've been 1107 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,760 thinking about that a lot. If so, let's, let's, let's, 1108 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,720 let's game theory that out a little bit. 1109 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,040 If so, if Georgia loses, they would be 9 and three with like 1110 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,040 almost excuse me, excuse me, they'd be 10 and three. 1111 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,800 And almost like nine and four asterisk because that Georgia 1112 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,320 Tech game like again. I mean, they're going to give 1113 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,960 them credit for it, Scott, unfortunately. 1114 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,120 Matter because it matters for us. 1115 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,200 Go ahead. So they would have lost that 1116 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,880 game, right? Alabama at 9:00 and 3:00 would 1117 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,240 be hovering there. Would they put nine and three 1118 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:43,720 Alabama, who beat Georgia ahead of Georgia, who was ten and 1119 00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,880 three and played in the in the SEC title game, or would they 1120 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,040 say, no, You know the I don't. I mean there's always the 1121 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,920 scenario where they're like, oh, we'll put both of them in. 1122 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,160 Does that screw one of the the ACC teams out of a bid? 1123 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,520 There's a lot down there. I think that's really 1124 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,760 fascinating to to kind of work through. 1125 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,280 Texas beats Georgia. Georgia should be below us. 1126 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,040 You would think, yes. I mean, that's it's like it's 1127 00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:13,640 losses matter until they don't. You know, your strength of 1128 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,760 schedule doesn't matter until it does. 1129 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,280 No, there's no rhyme or reason to any of this. 1130 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,840 It feels like, and I this is where the committee is kind of 1131 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,880 like they've chip stacked in two different directions on this a 1132 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,880 little bit in terms of what they're gonna, what they're 1133 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,120 gonna value. And they keep giving these SEC 1134 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:34,280 teams credit for wins that look less and less impressive every 1135 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,040 week because of the fact that the teams that you're beating 1136 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,800 aren't going on and continuing to win games or even looking 1137 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,800 good when they do win games. So they say that they redo the 1138 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,360 rankings every week. I guess my question is like when 1139 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,960 you redo the rankings this week, how do you in any level of 1140 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,920 seriousness? Put SMU above. 1141 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,480 Us put SMU above. How do you with any level of 1142 00:56:54,480 --> 00:57:01,400 seriousness, really argue that all of the, the, the ways that 1143 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,640 the SEC teams have have not performed well here lately. 1144 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,360 Like with Ole Miss losing like to Florida or what, You know 1145 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,600 what not Alabama losing to Oklahoma. 1146 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,640 How are they still 13th, 14th in the mix with this? 1147 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,560 You know, how, how is that? How is Georgia not penalized 1148 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,720 more for losing to an Alabama team that turned around and lost 1149 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,960 by the margin that it did at Oklahoma? 1150 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,000 It's just not that impressive of a win, certainly not as 1151 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,360 impressive as what they used to rank them up that high in the 1152 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,440 1st place. So those are the kinds of things 1153 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,120 that I'm really curious to see how they sort out. 1154 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,160 And I, you know, again, if Indiana's in the top 9, I think 1155 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,960 they're going to be fine. And then it just becomes a 1156 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,320 matter of what are the other results going to play out? 1157 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,960 And you know, where does Indiana land as a result of that? 1158 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,040 I, I, I agreed. I'll go back and look at the 1159 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,520 rankings. How, how, how how are we not 9? 1160 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,920 Like. I I like who who could jump us 1161 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,440 if my or is it is it just Miami doesn't drop below us or? 1162 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:08,000 Well, no, I think I, I, I the the question is more like, you 1163 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,640 know, if, if Indiana's 9, clearly Miami's gonna drop below 1164 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:14,760 Indiana. There's no argument. 1165 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,440 Like I think we have to be at least nine. 1166 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,240 The question to me is 8 or 9. Like if we're ten that that's 1167 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,800 AI. Don't know where that comes 1168 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:21,920 from. Right, exactly. 1169 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,680 So, you know, and then, but then the question is, and as I go 1170 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,440 back and look at my rankings, if they drop Miami entirely out of 1171 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,840 the top 11, which is where they need to be, who do they put in 1172 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,520 that spot? Because Clemson lost Alabama has 1173 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,280 not played to the level that would, that would yield that. 1174 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,600 Do they put South Carolina ahead of Alabama and Ole Miss? 1175 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:46,880 Do they become kind of the, the, the, you know, so that's, that's 1176 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,240 the, that's the thing I want to keep an eye on is, is what they 1177 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,800 do with that grouping and how they handle Ohio State. 1178 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,680 If they don't, I, I don't understand. 1179 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,080 I, I will, I'm, I'm going to just say right off the bat, I'm 1180 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,720 not going to understand them not dropping Ohio State four or five 1181 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:07,280 spots for losing at home to a Michigan team that finished the 1182 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,840 season 7 and five. If, if they, if the president 1183 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,080 was set, the precedent was set that they're going to drop 1184 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,040 Indiana 5 spots for losing at Ohio State, right? 1185 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,000 Then you know that it's that's. At least a six spot drop, if not 1186 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,760 7. Yeah, I mean, and you did last 1187 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,440 week. And I'll note Penn State has the 1188 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:31,040 exact same loss and is 4th and has essentially like what a 1189 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,720 very, very similar set of outcomes. 1190 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,600 Like look at Penn State's overall record. 1191 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,520 Look at who they've played. You know, look at here's Penn 1192 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,520 State's wins at West Virginia, Bowling Green, Kent State, 1193 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,720 Illinois. Fine, whatever. 1194 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:51,560 UCLA at USC, Wisconsin, Washington, Purdue at Purdue at 1195 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,280 Minnesota, which they you bet PJ Fleck. 1196 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,680 Sorry, sorry for my language folks, but like you think of how 1197 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,560 close we would be talking right now to Indiana hosting if 1198 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:06,000 Minnesota just can pull its head out of its ass at some point in 1199 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,720 the last quarter of that game. And then they beat Maryland, 1200 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:15,640 who's awful 44 seven. My point being, there's no 1201 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,040 justification for Penn State being. 1202 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,440 How many spots are they ahead of Indiana right now? 1203 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,680 Six spots ahead of Indiana. There's no justification for it. 1204 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,120 Like, I can see three spots better, but 6 based on what? 1205 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,680 Yeah, no. And it's, it's, I mean, you're, 1206 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,760 you're always going to have incongruities in this because 1207 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,840 it's so tight. But but you're right. 1208 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,160 Because then it's also like, all right, so Ohio State's going to 1209 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,880 be ranked below Penn State, but Ohio State beat Penn State at 1210 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,760 Penn State. How how is that? 1211 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,320 How are we? How are we figuring that 1212 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,760 squaring that circle? It's going to be interesting to 1213 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,200 hear the explanation. It really is. 1214 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,320 So anyway, I apologize for swearing. 1215 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,000 I'm a little fired up about all this stuff. 1216 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,960 This is to the audience sometimes when people are 1217 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,400 sensitive and understandably so. But look, a lot to talk about 1218 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,200 this week and it should be a really fascinating set of 1219 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,680 circumstances as we're going to be watching Indiana, watching 1220 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,880 the clock and watching these rankings and, and Indiana really 1221 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,800 can't do anything else. And all they can do is watch 1222 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,320 what happens around them at this point. 1223 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,600 But I like the vantage point from where they are doing that 1224 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,520 watching and it's exciting. I'll say this large picture, I 1225 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,440 was thinking of this last night and I'm, I'm obviously IU fan 1226 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,560 trying to look at things from a positive angle. 1227 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,280 So this is definitely positive viewpoint. 1228 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:34,400 But, you know, if we have to go on the road in the first round 1229 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,320 of the CFP, there's a, you know, the the positive way to look at 1230 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,760 it is we went out and did that at Ohio State. 1231 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,600 So you've had that moment of playing in a place like that. 1232 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,960 And it's very hard to replicate that kind of noise in that 1233 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,520 environment. You know, like you saw videos 1234 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,400 before the before the week at Ohio State, then playing, you 1235 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,960 know, noise Memorial Stadium. It it's tough to do that in 1236 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,960 reality. And a lot of the trouble we had 1237 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,600 was snap count and doing a silent count and having issues 1238 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,040 with that. And then you had, you know, two 1239 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,920 or three mistakes that kind of shifted the game. 1240 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,920 Seeing how crisp we looked last night and seeing again, Rourke's 1241 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,880 passing kind of coming back together, it it does feel like, 1242 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,640 all right, We, we now know how to handle a situation like that. 1243 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,880 We are a little bit more prepared this time when we go 1244 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,400 into South Bend OR Happy Valley or even, you know, Athens, We 1245 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,640 now know what we have to do snap count wise. 1246 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:26,680 We're going to have two different. 1247 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,480 We're going to be even more prepared for this. 1248 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,360 And you know, we we know what kind of plays we can run. 1249 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,280 We have a quarterback who's now three weeks more healthy. 1250 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,880 You know, I'm I'm much more optimistic going into those 1251 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,080 games now, oddly, after having that experience at Ohio State, 1252 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,600 because looking back, it wasn't a complete curb stopping. 1253 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,480 It was a couple of plays that turn the tide and we could not 1254 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,720 return the tide. But it was based on probably 1255 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,760 just not having that kind of environment before. 1256 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,400 And then, you know, after that you're neutral sites like if you 1257 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,120 if you get through that, it's a neutral site environment where 1258 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,760 all those things wash away. And and I think neutral sites 1259 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,000 favors Indiana so much more against probably every team that 1260 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,080 isn't named Oregon in this. Field yeah, well, there's just 1261 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,840 there's a lot of you you mentioned, you mentioned 1262 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,720 precedent, you mentioned like the the committee handling the 1263 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,840 top 12 here. Yes, they've ranked the top 25 1264 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:27,240 historically, but like historically, anything after 6 1265 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:32,040 or five didn't really matter. It really matters here and, and 1266 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,840 the the and not just from an Indiana perspective, but it 1267 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,640 matters because what precedent are you setting? 1268 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,080 Like to me, it's like you asked about Georgia. 1269 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:44,120 Like Georgia, a three loss team should not be hosting a playoff 1270 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,720 game. That's a great. 1271 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,480 You know, a three loss team should not be hosting a playoff 1272 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,320 game and and you can go through the list with some of these 1273 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,520 other ones. It's like, do you really want to 1274 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,600 give, you know, like Tennessee has two losses do do they 1275 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,040 deserve to host a playoff game? So now it gets into this whole 1276 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,040 idea, so much of this narrative, which has been stupid to 1277 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,520 participate in, but we've had to, so much of it has been based 1278 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,600 on what? Who deserves what, right? 1279 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,520 Indiana doesn't deserve to be there. 1280 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,480 They haven't played a tough enough schedule or SMU doesn't 1281 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,800 deserve to be there, whatever. But So what? 1282 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,600 What are we basing the deserve off of at this point? 1283 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,320 And that's really going to be fascinating to watch how it 1284 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,640 plays out because this is this becomes the precedent that you 1285 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,240 now set for going into the next playoff cycle. 1286 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,240 And teams will adjust based upon what they see out of this. 1287 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,960 So you almost have a responsibility as a committee. 1288 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,040 And this is where, like, the arguments about Indiana's 1289 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,120 schedule are so disingenuous because it's like you look at 1290 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,080 what the schedule was supposed to be at the start of the 1291 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,200 season. This point's been made many 1292 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:47,400 times. What you have the defending 1293 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,840 national champion on your schedule, the defending runners 1294 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,720 up, a consensus top five team in Ohio State, a Nebraska team that 1295 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,480 everybody seems to have forgotten was anointed as the 1296 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,560 team that was like, you know, Matt Rule was going to bring 1297 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,320 them back to nine wins and they were going to be a contender in 1298 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,040 the Big 10 they were on the schedule part of. 1299 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,360 Our game, part of the reason, you know, big news Sunday was 1300 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,040 here was for them. New Saturday was for them 1301 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,240 because there were five and one. Not us, you know, I mean, 1302 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,600 Maryland was supposed to be. A6 win team, A7 win team. 1303 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,240 Michigan State was supposed to be in that mix. 1304 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,760 Jonathan Smith was going to come in and and get that ship 1305 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,400 righted. You know, UCLA was, I think 1306 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,720 projected in some circles to win five or six games. 1307 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:24,880 They ended up winning five games. 1308 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:29,160 But my point is like the committee has to be real careful 1309 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,440 about like, oh, you didn't, you didn't have a tough enough 1310 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,720 schedule because Indiana did everything that they could 1311 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,080 against the schedule that they had. 1312 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,200 And they're one blemish. Was in a road environment where 1313 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,320 they actually played really good defense and their special teams 1314 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,520 fell apart. It's like, are you going to 1315 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,880 punish them for that? Sorry. 1316 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,120 And just real quick along the same line, you know, so that you 1317 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,600 know, Indiana has no control over a big 10 schedule. 1318 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,680 Obviously it has control over the non conference. 1319 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,840 And yes, our non conference was soft. 1320 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,240 But if you've listened to this podcast for any length of time, 1321 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:02,000 it's really like unbelievably use your word disingenuous to 1322 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,360 say, Hey, an Indiana team that is historically awful is coming 1323 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,360 off of a coaching change on a three win, four win season. 1324 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,480 You should go schedule the toughest non conference you can 1325 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,680 like you once you go to Alabama first week. 1326 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,840 Like no, we need to rack up wins. 1327 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,360 Like nobody seems to care that Minnesota always does it. 1328 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,120 You know that they play a bunch of soft cakes like the you know, 1329 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,480 this season came out of the blue for a lot of us. 1330 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,720 Yes, theoretically maybe playing Louisville in the first 3 weeks 1331 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,400 would have been better, but that would have we discussed that ad 1332 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,080 nauseam when we got out of that contract. 1333 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,840 That was the right choice. And our history is littered as 1334 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,400 we've talked about many times, our non conference being too 1335 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,560 over scheduled. So to look at us and be like and 1336 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,680 and by the way, football non conference schedules are two 3-4 1337 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,720 years in advance. Like it's not you can't just say 1338 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,880 net really couldn't turn it on a dime and change it in, you know, 1339 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,120 when he gets to the job in like in April, like, yeah, we're 1340 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,080 pretty good. Maybe we should flip this for, 1341 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,120 you know, hey, what do you know? Boise State's got an opening. 1342 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:00,800 There's not that doesn't work that way. 1343 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,560 So it's it's really, really unfair to say we should have had 1344 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,920 a tougher non conference because I we will argue that with 1345 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:09,560 anybody. It's like, no, we shouldn't. 1346 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,200 We're not a good, we were not a good team coming into this. 1347 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,960 We're having a new coach with all new players. 1348 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:19,000 We need a very short runway. We are not one of these top 1349 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,520 teams. So we'll see what happens. 1350 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,360 It's gonna be a lot of fun to talk about throughout the course 1351 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,480 of the week, a lot of discourse. I'm curious to see what 1352 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,040 everybody else's thoughts are on this. 1353 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,200 So it's Tuesday, obviously. And then is it the Tuesday 1354 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:32,320 after? Is that the final? 1355 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,000 No, no, no, the no. The final reveal, I believe, is 1356 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,360 actually Sunday. Oh, OK, so. 1357 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:41,600 Tuesday and then so Tuesday and so everybody's well, it's going 1358 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,600 to be tough from a programming perspective this week. 1359 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,840 Bison chat, which as most of you know is on Tuesdays. 1360 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,840 The well, the CFP reveal show is going to be happening in the 1361 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,720 middle of the Indiana Sam Houston State basketball game. 1362 01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,000 Like the game starts at 7:00, I think and the the draws at 7:30. 1363 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,600 So we may have to do Bison chat during the IU basket. 1364 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,360 You know what, Scott? You know what we're going to do. 1365 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,360 I'm going to tell you right now. We may, we may not, 1366 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,520 unfortunately, have Emily Fox or Joe Cronin joining us. 1367 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,600 And I don't know if Scott's available. 1368 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,680 It might be time to do a live watch of the IU basketball game 1369 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,960 and then simultaneously do a live watch of the CFP reveal. 1370 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,080 We haven't done a live watch for basketball in a while. 1371 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,920 We've been kind of avoiding that lately for some reasons, but 1372 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,240 maybe that's what we'll do. I think the the people deserve 1373 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,920 that at this point. Let's talk offline. 1374 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,600 No, I'm in for part of it. Yes, and. 1375 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,279 I was. Thinking like how I don't want 1376 01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:41,960 to make give you something you might have to cut, but it would 1377 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,600 it would just be funny if you're dolson just like whatever. 1378 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,080 No, don't say it because I can't cut it out of the video. 1379 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,319 OK, thank you. It's not that bad. 1380 01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:51,760 But it's not no, no, no. Anyway, all right, well, we're 1381 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,200 going to go ahead and wrap this up. 1382 01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,920 We are very thrilled, Indiana. Great regular season. 1383 01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,160 Looking forward to seeing what happens. 1384 01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:02,240 I know it's amazing. 11 and one. And as somebody pointed out 1385 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,760 earlier on Twitter, Indiana still never had A10 win season 1386 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,840 in program history. Yeah, they've had a nine win 1387 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:12,240 season and an 11 win season. Once I get it, I get it. 1388 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:13,040 That's great. We'll. 1389 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,920 Come back and get the ten wins next year or something like, 1390 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,680 yeah, like make that, make that a clause in Sigdaddy's contract. 1391 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,760 Like you had A10 win season on the dot. 1392 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:21,720 It's amazing. The one. 1393 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,920 Last thing I want to say on the scheduling stuff before we go 1394 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,240 and I I meant to connect the dot on this and then I just, I 1395 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,479 didn't in an era where all of these conference schedules are 1396 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:36,600 so tremendously imbalanced, how do you punish teams or how do 1397 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,760 you reward teams based upon who they play and who they don't 1398 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,960 play? When some teams don't get the 1399 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,840 chance to play other teams, you know, it's like SMU is going to 1400 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,080 the ACC title game. They didn't play Miami in the 1401 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,160 regular season. They didn't play Clemson in the 1402 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,200 regular season. You know, Miami's going to the 1403 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,200 conference title game. They didn't play Clemson in the 1404 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,000 regular season and nor did they play SMU. 1405 01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:01,160 Indiana didn't get a chance to play the Big 10 teams that might 1406 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:02,640 have boosted their resume even more. 1407 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,040 They didn't get a chance to play Illinois. 1408 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,480 Penn State did. We don't know if Indiana could 1409 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:07,840 have very easily beaten Illinois. 1410 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,640 They didn't get a chance to play Iowa. 1411 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,000 I'm I'm thankful for that, but that, you know, that's a team 1412 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,760 that would have looked impressive as a scalp. 1413 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,520 They didn't get a chance and you can go down the list. 1414 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,280 I mean, go, go to the go to Texas's schedule. 1415 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,800 They didn't get a chance to play certain teams in the SEC. 1416 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,560 So do we never got a Texas Alabama game. 1417 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,280 We never got a Texas Tennessee game. 1418 01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:32,360 So this is where I the committee, this is almost to the 1419 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:38,200 point where the 12 team playoff format may not be sufficient 1420 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,720 because of how unbalanced all of the schedules are. 1421 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,480 We got so used in college football to saying, well, look, 1422 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,840 these are just the best teams in this conference and so they'll 1423 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,160 get in and we'll pick what we think is the best at large. 1424 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,360 Well, it gets harder when you get further down because you 1425 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,600 just can't do apples to apples comparisons on these teams 1426 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,640 because many of them haven't played each other even in their 1427 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,400 own conferences. And so it's like is is Clemson a 1428 01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,480 better team than Miami on the balance of the season? 1429 01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:06,680 Probably not. But Clemson's going to the ACC 1430 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,880 title game and Miami isn't and, and that so that never gets 1431 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,560 resolved. And it's not great to sit there 1432 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,760 and try to figure it out with a bunch of people talking in a 1433 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,880 room. So maybe 16 teams is better than 1434 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,680 12 because you are going to leave a couple of teams out that 1435 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,240 probably are good enough to play in the playoff but didn't have 1436 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,320 the schedule in front of them to be able to do so. 1437 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,880 No, it's a great point. And I will also say it, it's 1438 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,040 going to continue and probably get worse. 1439 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,680 Like like the idea of you're getting with larger schedules, 1440 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,600 having more teams playing kind of the underbelly of a 1441 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,960 conference schedule is going to be more likely than not. 1442 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,560 You're going to have it again in future years. 1443 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,840 And if you go to an 18 or A20 team big 10 in SEC, it's going 1444 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,240 to be even more exacerbated. Like you're just you're going to 1445 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,200 have more variance in schedules and you're going to have a 1446 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,600 situation where a team doesn't play the top three teams in a 1447 01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,320 conference at some point. And what are you going to do 1448 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,000 with it? So you you're setting precedents 1449 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,920 that are important. And if you if you say, well, 1450 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,840 it's got to all be non conference, like that's absurd. 1451 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,880 Like if you're going to have these unbelievable conferences 1452 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,840 where there's a chance you could be playing Ohio State, Michigan, 1453 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,400 Penn State, Oregon all in the same year, you can't load up 1454 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:16,960 your non conference with a bunch of teams. 1455 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,840 And look at Ole Miss, they played, you know, Ferdum, Middle 1456 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,320 Tennessee State and Georgia Southern. 1457 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,240 I mean, they didn't play anybody in the non conference. 1458 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,520 Like I think you're going to see teams having less non conference 1459 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,280 schedules as this goes along. So I I agree with you, but I 1460 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,120 think the idea it's it's going to be even worse moving forward. 1461 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,400 So they have to figure it out and probably just go to 16 teams 1462 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,760 sooner rather than later. Yeah. 1463 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:44,120 Anyway, we'll, we'll officially wrap up the podcast and thank 1464 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,560 you all for sticking with us through the regular season. 1465 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,120 We had a blast. We're looking forward a lot more 1466 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,560 programming to come. This week we will talk about the 1467 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,600 College Football Playoff when it's revealed on Tuesday or at 1468 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,840 least the up updated rankings and certainly we'll be keeping 1469 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,640 an eye on things as we go into conference championship week. 1470 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,640 And man should be should be quite a week for Indiana 1471 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,680 football. Just anticipation waiting to see 1472 01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,520 how everything falls. Scott, it's always a pleasure 1473 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,840 talking with you and folks be sure to subscribe to us on the 1474 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,240 back home network YouTube channel. 1475 01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:16,160 Be sure to subscribe on sub stack. 1476 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,360 And we'd like to thank our presenting sponsor, Home Field 1477 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,160 Apparel, as always, for their patronage throughout the course 1478 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,600 of the season. For Scott, I'm Galen, This is 1479 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,280 Crimson cast. We will catch you folks. 1480 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,400 On the flip side, bring back the Bison. 1481 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,800 Stay never daunted. So long, everybody.