1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,520 You're listening to the Back Home Network presented by Home 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:22,280 Field Apparel. All right folks, welcome back to 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Crimson Cast. Scott here with you and it's 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,600 starting. We are doing our football 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,720 preview shows. We'll probably release these in 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,720 the order which you record them and this is the first one that 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,960 I'm doing. We got a couple coming this 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,200 week. So excited. 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,720 We're like two weeks out from football. 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,120 This morning it was like 56° the bus stop. 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Getting very excited. Have a great guest on. 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,120 We have Zion Brown from WIUX, also some indie star this 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,720 summer. Excited to have him on. 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Before we get to Zion, just want to talk about a new sponsor we 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,520 have on the podcast, which is Upland Brewery. 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,720 Could not be more excited for this. 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,360 They make some fantastic stuff. One of my favorite beers the 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,920 they have a wheat beer, which is just awesome. 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,560 But today we're here to talk about the official craft beer of 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,880 Upland. Upland Brewery is the official 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,200 craft beer of Indiana University Athletics and their beer is the 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,760 Hoosier Game Day Logger. If you've been at any of the IU 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,000 sporting events, I'm sure you've seen it. 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,200 It's the Crimson and cream colored beer bottle. 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,720 It's fantastic. It's crafted by Upland Brewery 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,320 Company in the heart of Bloomington, and this beer 27 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:26,680 embodies the Hoosier pride in every can. 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,280 It features the iconic cream and Crimson candy stripes. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,960 The Hoosier Game Day Lager is a classically smooth and 30 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:33,880 refreshing beer. It's in my freeze fridge right 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,360 now, and it's brewed to perfection with a perfect 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,880 balance of flavor. It's the ideal companion for 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,480 every game. You can do it tailgating. 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,640 You can do it at the game when you're cheering a Memorial 35 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,040 Stadium or assembly hall to watch your favorite sport. 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,000 IU athletics are always better with beer, I would agree and 37 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,480 capture the spirit of Hoosier basketball with every sip. 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,160 Find the Hoosier game day logger at Upland's nine family friendly 39 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,840 locations. There's one up here in Clay 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,120 Terrace in Westfield so you can join me. 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,840 I will be there for many IU Football Rd. games. 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,880 They're also your local liquor store, neighborhood bar, and 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,000 everywhere Upland beers are sold. 44 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,000 Upland Brewery Company reminds you to drink responsibly and go 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,560 Hoosiers. Zion. 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,040 You just turned 21 my friend. You're like 3 weeks in. 47 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,800 How much Upland have you hit and what what's been your favorite? 48 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,720 I turn 21 story thus far. So I haven't been to upland yet. 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,400 I need to. I just got back to Bloomington 50 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,960 yet or two days ago. So I will certainly be checking 51 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:33,000 that out in the next day or two. But for me, my, my, I turn 21 52 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,960 stories right now aren't anything crazy. 53 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,840 The thing about me is I have a summer birthday. 54 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Obviously it was the end of July, but because of my 55 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,040 birthday, I'm I'm some people do it the other way around where 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,240 they would be going into their junior year of college. 57 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,280 Right now I'm going into my senior year, which means all of 58 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,760 my friends have had their like big Oh my God. 59 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,000 I'm 21 months ago. And so for me it was just kind 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,560 of like more of like a finally, like my friends can finally do 61 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,880 things with me and not like feel like they're leaving me out of 62 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,920 things. But so I haven't had anything 63 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:04,840 crazy going on, but I've just gone out, you know, once or 64 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,760 twice every week since I turned 21. 65 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,400 And yeah, it's been cool. But yeah, I don't have a huge. 66 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,360 Oh my God, I had a crazy first night because everybody I know 67 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,720 kind of has already experienced. That I love it as, as someone in 68 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,400 the mid 40s, I love how you just kind of casually throughout the, 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,520 you know, once I've gone out, you know, once twice every week 70 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,600 because once you hit the 40s, like I can go out once a week 71 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,320 and then I'm, I'm crushed for like 3 days. 72 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,560 So enjoy it. I remember I, I also am like 73 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,920 you, I had a July, I have a late July birthday and I also went, 74 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,160 started late. I mean, I was going 21 turning 75 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,680 into my senior year. So I know the feeling. 76 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,640 We're like junior year, that last, you know, four or five 77 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,920 months of school was like, dude, everyone's going out, everyone's 78 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,960 drinking and you're just either hoping you have the right fake 79 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,960 ID or it's like, all right, I guess I'm just hanging out with 80 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,360 you guys when you get back from the bars. 81 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Yep, that is exactly how the last, like you said, probably 82 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,560 five or six months of my life work. 83 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,240 Well, you have a job to do after we're done with this. 84 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,800 I know it's like 9:00. We're recording this. 85 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,080 Wait till like maybe 11 and then go buy some Hoosier logger. 86 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,080 Go get some of the cans and they're great to have them. 87 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,520 They just look awesome in your fridge. 88 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Like just having the candy stripes in your fridge looks 89 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,880 awesome. That's that's a way to impress, 90 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,240 impress the ladies. Now that you're 21, you come in, 91 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,960 you have a fridge full of game day log. 92 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,519 You're like, dude, Zion knows what's going on. 93 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:19,720 He knows what's up. Yeah, that that right now my 94 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,560 fridge has, like I said, I just moved into a new place. 95 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,360 It has water, grapes and beer so that we can just add more beer. 96 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,560 I love we need to have like a we were going to have you on 97 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,360 throughout the season. We got to have like a Zion 98 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,640 fridge update because like the college fridge is one of the 99 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,960 best. Like there, there will be take 100 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,840 out pizza, some take out probably Thai food. 101 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:42,280 And then, yeah, just like I love the grapes, beer and water. 102 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:44,440 That's that's a good mix. Maybe milk and eggs as you start 103 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,000 to get closer to graduation. Well, Zion, I want to I want to 104 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,440 start with this. You're a senior going into I, 105 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,800 you know, at IU. What is your relationship with 106 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,720 IU football? What I mean by that is you've 107 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,760 been covering and kind of watching it in a unique time 108 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,520 where they had a super high, a super dip, you know, for, for 109 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,680 someone like me in my mid 40s, I've been watching going to 110 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,360 football games since the mid to early early 80s. 111 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:15,000 And so I've probably come into this season and just into IU 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,720 football fandom with kind of like, you know, just a Theta 113 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,080 complete. It's like, Ah, well, you know, 114 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,160 that that's what's going to happen. 115 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,720 And IU, you know, that's that's what I expect to happen with IU 116 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,120 football. I'm curious, someone is a 117 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,240 younger fan who hasn't had, you know, you know the history of 118 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,440 it, but you haven't lived it. How how do you come into a 119 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,120 football season with IU? I'll just leave it there. 120 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,560 It's a question I've been curious to ask you. 121 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Yeah, it, it's so interesting to me because like I was in high 122 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,320 school, my senior year was, you know, the year, the, the great 123 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,280 2020, you know, shorting season. And I didn't, I didn't actually 124 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:52,480 decide I was going to IU until like the spring. 125 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,160 So it was after football season, but like just watching that. 126 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,520 And then once I did decide like get to campus, they're ranked I 127 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,160 think 16th or 17th going into that next 2021 season. 128 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,160 And then it's been not at all what I expected when I got here, 129 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,920 right? I'm I'm thinking, OK, like, like 130 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:10,440 this team is probably going to make at least the bowl game 131 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,360 every year I'm here. You know, they have a chance to, 132 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,960 you know, make especially that first year, like maybe be in 133 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,160 another new year 6 bowl and condition or to get to one. 134 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,680 I should say not another one could say I screwed out of the 135 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,240 one the year before that. But so yeah, that's what I was 136 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,880 thinking. And they have not made a bowl 137 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,760 game in the three years I've been here. 138 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:30,960 So the the relationship, I guess would it be like, I guess I got 139 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,000 that glimpse, I would say in 2019 and 2020 of like I saw what 140 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,720 it could be from, from a distance. 141 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,920 I'm from Indianapolis. So I I watched, I paid 142 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,360 attention, I saw what it could be. 143 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,160 But I have not gotten to like fully experience, you know, a, a 144 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,720 bowl season or like a a season that is like fulfilling in the 145 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,920 way that those two seasons. Were as a student, I'm curious 146 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,080 to also ask you this, how, how do you view the excitement going 147 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,760 into this season? And it's tough to tell because I 148 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,920 know students aren't back on campus yet. 149 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,680 But you know, you had last year, not a great football year. 150 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,040 You had, you know, the the exiting of coach Allen. 151 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,160 Then you had the hiring of coach Signetti and you already saw, 152 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,800 you know, his, his one time he went on the the assembly hall 153 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,640 floor and had his comments like he kind of showed who he was. 154 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,400 He's done more of that at media day. 155 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,440 I'm just curious, as best you can tell, what's the vibe of the 156 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,320 fans? I I would ask this way, like was 157 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,880 the vibe as down as it felt for a lot of us at the end of the 158 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,240 Allen era with the students? And then have you noticed a 159 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,480 reinvigoration of students or are they, are they think they're 160 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:39,160 in kind of a wait and see mode? The first to the first point, 161 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,840 yes, the vibe was was certainly down. 162 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Like it was just nobody was like super excited for games anymore 163 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,760 or anything like that. And to the second part, I would 164 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,480 say it's in wait and see mode right now because of the fact 165 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,880 that like now my class is the oldest class or the oldest 166 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,440 undergrad class we haven't seen, like I said, a successful or 167 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,560 even semi successful season yet. So even though that, you know, 168 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,600 it's a new era, new codes, like I don't think too many people, 169 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,360 especially, you know, the more casual viewers, like I can't 170 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,600 wait to get out to games this year. 171 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,760 Now, if they start three and O right, they end up winning their 172 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,880 first two games going to UCLA, even though that's a huge game 173 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,360 necessarily. But if they go and win at UCLA, 174 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,120 then maybe that starts to shift a little bit and they go three 175 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,640 and O. But right now I don't think it's 176 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,760 a a huge deal. Once again, like you said, no, 177 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,920 the students aren't fully back on campus yet. 178 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,280 I think one thing that actually will hurt them is that classes 179 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,600 start next week. So there's not there's usually 180 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,559 usually classes would start this week and we're recording this on 181 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,480 on August 20th and there and there's two full weeks of 182 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,000 classes and then it's week one this year, for whatever reason, 183 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,080 it's just that one week of class and then it's straight into that 184 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,840 first Saturday of the year, which I think may slightly hurt 185 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,400 that student attendance and and vibe week one, just because 186 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,920 there's not a lot of lead up of like, you know, oh, the the 187 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,200 football game, it's next week, right. 188 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,160 You know, you know what I mean? It's just not that same. 189 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,960 So we'll see. Yeah, I mean, I that's a great 190 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:03,960 point. I hadn't thought about that. 191 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,720 You know, I I wonder how that 330 start is going to go for 192 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:13,120 students. I do you see a full and fired up 193 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,720 student section game one or do you think it's going to take a 194 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,560 three and O start or, or to get things going? 195 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,480 You know, it's kind of an odd setup because you have the 330 196 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,520 start on Saturday, but like you said, it's only after one week 197 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,600 of classes and then you go into a Friday night game, which which 198 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,560 could be fun, but it's also like I could see, you know, students 199 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:31,840 being like, oh, I forgot, dude, it game. 200 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,880 It's Saturday morning. I forgot the game was last 201 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,360 night. I could see that happening as 202 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,440 well. You know, do you see, do you see 203 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,400 kind of a slow start with the student section this year? 204 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,160 I do I just for whatever reason, I don't know if they'll be there 205 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,400 right away like you said for that week one. 206 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Now if they if they happen to put up like let's say 40 207 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,240 something points week one, then maybe people are like, oh, OK, 208 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,840 OK, this is like serious right? But I just don't see it right 209 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,000 away. And you mentioned the Friday 210 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,840 night game. I remember when they opened on 211 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,120 Friday night two years ago against Illinois, I was calling 212 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,240 that game. It was a great game, right? 213 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,560 Like that was that Connor Baslak like 80 something yard drive 214 00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:16,000 that he led to win the game. And at around halftime, close 215 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,280 game, people just started filtering out on a Friday night 216 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,280 and this is like, well, like it's just like so it was so odd 217 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,760 to see, but it is it was kind of the culture on the team at that 218 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,080 time once again, coming off a poor season. 219 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,160 So I think the Friday night probably will hurt them again 220 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,600 this year. But once again, I, I think it 221 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,680 just depends on what you do on the field because the year I 222 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:38,920 came in that 2021 year, we were all hyped up about it. 223 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,680 Even though they got destroyed at Iowa to, to start that year 224 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,120 that did like Cincinnati and the Michigan State games were still, 225 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,120 you know, crazy attendance for those games. 226 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,120 So if you give them a few wins and something to be excited 227 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,560 about, I think the students will show up. 228 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,200 And new student section this year yeah, you're moving over 229 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,040 like and I'm I'm kind of putting you a tough spot of making you 230 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,840 speak for all students. So Zion is speaking for all 231 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,520 30,000 IU students, but I'm, I'm curious, has anybody, are you 232 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,920 excited for that? Any friends excited? 233 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,440 And then I will, it's a two-part question. 234 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,960 I'm also curious, you know, when, when I was back in the 235 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,320 day, you know, when we had paper tickets when I went to school, 236 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,640 football was just all first come first serve. 237 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,440 Is that the way the student section is still being done to 238 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,480 your knowledge this year? Is it all first come first serve 239 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,080 or they're like reserve sections? 240 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,880 With the new section, are they changing up how students are 241 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,120 getting to sit in that area too? To my knowledge, it's the same. 242 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,320 I should have maybe gone back and looked at it when, when the 243 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,280 news was announced. But to my knowledge, it is still 244 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,080 first come first serve. And I don't know if there's like 245 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,800 a, a super big excitement about the change, but it, it just kind 246 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,440 of like is what it is right now. And then maybe once the the 247 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,560 season actually starts, it'll have a bigger effect and it'll, 248 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,720 you'll see it, you know, live in action. 249 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,960 But I I'm interested to see just how how much different it is now 250 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,840 that section has moved over. It is, you know, I, I asked you 251 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,640 earlier about being a younger IU fan. 252 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,000 It is, you know, it's, it's hard to get rid of some of those 253 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,680 memories that I have. I, I, I've been playing, as I 254 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:07,680 mentioned a couple times in this pot, I've been playing some good 255 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:11,880 NCAA Football 25. I started a dynasty with IU and 256 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,760 this might be saying more about my game plan. 257 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,080 I'm pretty good. I'm not amazing, but I'm pretty 258 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,560 good. But like the first game with IU 259 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:21,480 and playing FIU and you know, I'm up like 21 to nothing. 260 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,280 I'm doing great and then I'm going in for a touchdown. 261 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,520 I'm trying an option play. I pitched the ball. 262 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,080 They they've done something the latest update options are like 263 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,520 I'm fumbling all over the place. Could also just be me, but it's 264 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,240 like I I fumble an option trying to pitch it out, FIU just runs 265 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,480 back for a touchdown. I come back, I'm like, I'm going 266 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,880 to run that play again. I run it again. 267 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,280 I fumble again, FIU runs another one for a touchdown. 268 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,760 I'm like, my God, this sucks. Like this just reminds me this 269 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,960 is such an IE thing. I know this is a a fake video 270 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,840 game that I'm playing and I could just suck at the video 271 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,520 game, but it was like I I had I had like PTSD and it's like, Oh 272 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,360 my God, I could see this happening where suddenly it's 273 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,800 like FIU has run back two fumbles for return so. 274 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,280 It's tough. That happens week one. 275 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,120 We know who to blame. Yeah, no, it's totally going to 276 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,040 be me. And then we're just like, all 277 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,240 right, Sig, hit the reset button, hit reset. 278 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:12,600 So you know, high level, what are what are you excited for 279 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,040 with this team? It's it's an interesting team. 280 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,280 We have some pieces coming back, but just you know, I'm starting 281 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,920 to look at the depth charts, reading some stuff on bite sized 282 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,400 Bison and it is it's a whole new slew of players. 283 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,600 I mean, it's basically like a brand new team. 284 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,000 I think the question is going to be, you know, how do these guys 285 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,520 gel? How do they put it together? 286 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,880 What are you looking at that you may be the most excited for the 287 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,440 coming into this season? I think I'm like everybody else 288 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,880 where the receiving corps is kind of like the thing that fans 289 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,880 out to me, obviously led by Elijah Sarat, but there's 290 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,520 there's just so much talent there. 291 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,800 What I am slightly concerned about this. 292 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,880 I was thinking about this, you know, as we lead it LED into 293 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,480 this podcast these past few days. 294 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,400 It, I feel like there's a chance it could become like this 295 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,720 basketball thing where you know when, when you have a basketball 296 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,960 team that has like five really good role players, but it 297 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,800 doesn't work because you never know what style of play you're 298 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,920 playing and they never know how many minutes they're going to 299 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,640 get. I can kind of see that happening 300 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,040 with this receiving core, right? Like where it's a thing where 301 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,920 it's like, OK, Sirat's obviously the the one guy that'll probably 302 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,480 always be on the field. And then everybody else is kind 303 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,760 of shuffling around so much that that maybe the, the chemistry 304 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,000 with work isn't where it needs to be. 305 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:28,040 But like I, I want to see kind of week one what, what, what 306 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,640 Sigma side is kind of like the guys that he's going to use in 307 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,400 that core and how they go about that. 308 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,400 Yeah, I was looking. It's funny you mentioned that. 309 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,720 That's what I was focusing on too, was the wide receiver core 310 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,920 getting ready for this pod. You know, the two things that 311 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,200 stand out to me are a just how many new players are in that 312 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,720 wide receiver core? How many guys it's going to be 313 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,520 their first year at IU, But also just it's relatively small and 314 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,520 you have Macaulay at 65, Sarah, like you mentioned at six two, 315 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,720 but then Price is 59, Williams is 59, you know, crosses 511. 316 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,280 Cooper's 6 foot. You have a pretty small 317 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,680 receiving core. It's not bad. 318 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,080 I mean, it's not bad or good. It's just, I'm just mentioning 319 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,880 that, you know, it, it seems like over the years when Indiana 320 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,360 Indiana's had some pretty kind of sizable receiving cores, this 321 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,240 one does feel like it's going to be relatively slight. 322 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,840 So I do wonder if they're going to, you know, have to run more 323 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,520 kind of longer patterns, crossing routes, just kind of 324 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,680 open it up even more than probably what we're expecting. 325 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,680 They can't run the kind of slow possession offense that we've 326 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,200 seen in the past, least I don't think so with that small of a 327 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,200 receiving core. I agree and I I don't think 328 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,840 that's the plan. Right, I don't think not. 329 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,760 We're going. To see a lot of like short 330 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,640 crossing routes like obviously those would be part of the 331 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,680 playbook just as options for work, but I don't I don't 332 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,760 anticipate we see a lot of that. I think this team is is going to 333 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,640 run some longer developing routes and with the online, I 334 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,600 think the online should be able to hold up for that too. 335 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,360 So I anticipate a lot of kind of deeper shots or or intermediate 336 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,640 routes being run by by this group of guys. 337 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,760 What are your thoughts on Rourke coming into this season? 338 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,160 I, I, I think they're coming in right now with what they had 339 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,000 right, with, with Swordsby leaving and and bringing in 340 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,640 Cherry. I think, you know, there's not 341 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,320 much they could have done better, right? 342 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,040 He's, he had a very good 2022 season. 343 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,280 Was a little hurt last year, but I, I just feel like that steady 344 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,680 veteran presence for year one for Signetti. 345 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,480 I I feel like that'll be good for him. 346 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,840 Yeah, I I mean it does feel like it it you know, you have like 347 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,560 the Conor Basilak was kind of a an OK year. 348 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,040 I I, you know, that that would be my concern is going into it 349 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,720 is like, is that what we're going to get? 350 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,960 But every and we won't know until the game start, which is 351 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,560 kind of like a no no kidding Sherlock moment. 352 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,760 But you know, everything that I'm hearing reading is it does 353 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,040 feel like this coaching staff has a plan, has a real focus and 354 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,280 has an identity of what they're trying to do. 355 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,160 And it and I think that is as important as you're going to 356 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,960 get. And it's you know, I don't want 357 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,680 to say it's no knock on the Allen era because it is a knock 358 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,560 on the Allen era, but they had a plan. 359 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,920 But a lot of times that plan seemed ineffective or just 360 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,079 didn't seem to make a lot of sense where they kept running it 361 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:15,040 up the middle and then passing seemed to be a a secondary 362 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,560 option. It does feel like everything 363 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,839 that we're hearing is that, you know, coach Signetti has has a 364 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:22,960 plan. He saw it at James Madison, like 365 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,800 he he put together a very potent offense. 366 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,839 And so that that's kind of what I'm hoping. 367 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:30,040 But I think we're all in that same boat where it's just at 368 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,720 this point it's hope because we have nothing to to base it on. 369 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,920 Exactly like we have no clue how good work will be at this level 370 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,360 if he'll kind of bounce back from the the injury riddled 371 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:44,400 season that he just had in 2023 at Ohio. 372 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:49,360 But the the film and what he did in 2022, it stood out right. 373 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,680 Like you could see this guy was a a really good college 374 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,680 quarterback. It's just now finding out is was 375 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,600 that kind of a one year wonder? Was that like the best he'll 376 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,920 ever be? Or if he can translate that and 377 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,840 and put up similar production at the Big Ten level. 378 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,360 What are you what are your thoughts for the season as a 379 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:09,720 whole? What what to you is a a positive 380 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,800 season for for you? Look, I think it has to be a 381 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,480 bowl game, right? The way Kurt Dignetti has come 382 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,720 into here and and talked about, you know, no self-imposed 383 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,120 limitations, why can't we be Ohio State or Michigan? 384 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,960 To me, that means year one with this schedule, you should make a 385 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,960 bowl game, right? I think anything less than that 386 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,480 would be considered, you know, a bit of a failure. 387 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,920 Now, obviously, I don't think this team is going to win 10 388 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,160 games either, right? Like, I don't know, maybe 389 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,360 cursive Nettie thinks that. But like, realistically, 390 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,960 probably not going to happen. But to me, if you don't get to a 391 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,960 bowl game, you, you have to look at it and say, OK, maybe let's 392 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,200 let's temper expectations for what this arrow can be. 393 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,880 Yeah, you know, it's, it's funny. 394 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,880 I, I agree with you. I've not done my final kind of 395 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,800 preview with Galen where we'll go through every single game, 396 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,320 but I'm in the same boat. You are like, I I think a bowl 397 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,480 game is a realistic expectation for this team. 398 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,120 And and the thing that I think people are sleeping on outside 399 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:09,240 of the Indiana sphere is if you're just an outsider, you 400 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,920 look at this like, all right, man, Well, your team sucks. 401 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,320 Like you've been bad for a couple of years. 402 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,360 You have a new coach now you're talking about a bowl game. 403 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:18,000 Like, are you? Are you insane? 404 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,240 But The thing is you have to look at the schedule and I keep 405 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,160 going back to people that are outside of the Indiana sphere is 406 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,720 and I continue to talk about, you know, it's like this is a 407 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,000 schedule bowl game. It's not knocking where Indiana 408 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,120 is. I think Indiana is going to be 409 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:34,760 better. But when you look at the 410 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,200 schedule. So I'm going to take a moment 411 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,360 here and I'll probably mention this a couple times during 412 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:41,000 previews. So, you know, listeners 413 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,480 apologize. You'll be hearing this many 414 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,480 times. Bite sized Bison did a great 415 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,840 projection of the Big 10 standings throughout the year. 416 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:53,600 And so you know that he took all of the projected standings of 417 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,000 where they thought where media members thought teams were going 418 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,600 to finish and kind of ranked them based on the ranges. 419 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,120 If you look at that, so Indiana has three games, FIU, Western 420 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:05,480 Illinois, Charlotte, which are non conference games, which 421 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,720 let's just assume they're three. You know, I hope so. 422 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,720 We're just going to have to assume that if you look at all 423 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,080 of the other Big 10 games. Based on teams that are below 424 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,520 Indiana in those standings, and I'm not saying that those 425 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,360 standings are, you know, you're going to beat everybody who's 426 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,040 below you and beat, you know, lose everybody who's above you, 427 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,760 but those are all teams that theoretically are ranked below 428 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,840 Indiana. The teams that I have there are 429 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,480 UCLA, Maryland, Northwestern, Michigan State and Purdue. 430 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,800 Those are all teams that are ranked below us. 431 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,040 Maryland is ranked right at where we're at. 432 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,040 So we're going to be positive and say we beat the team that's 433 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,200 with us, which is Maryland. It's a home game and then we can 434 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,000 beat every other team that's worse than us on that list. 435 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,680 That puts us at 5:00 and 4:00 in the Big 10. 436 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,120 That's eight and four for the year. 437 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,640 That's a pretty Goodyear. I mean that that's going to a 438 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,960 bowl. That's easily going to a bowl. 439 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,000 That's also being 6 and O going into the Nebraska game. 440 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,040 You are bowl eligible after your first six games. 441 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:03,400 So I'm with you and I also think this is a reason why, you know, 442 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,120 Signetti, I don't say took the job, but This is why you make a 443 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:08,080 coaching change. You look at this and you know, 444 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,000 we've been talking about since podcasts for like 2 years. 445 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,960 This schedule is set up to get you to a bowl, and the way the 446 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,360 big tennis shook out, it really is set up to get you to a bowl. 447 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,200 Absolutely. And yeah, I, I wouldn't, 448 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,040 wouldn't be surprised if that played a part in, like you said, 449 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,200 Signetti taking his job is looking at the schedule and 450 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,840 saying, OK, you're one, I can do something here, right? 451 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,640 And, and that's why, like I said, I think that's why 452 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,400 anything sort of a ball would feel like a disappointment. 453 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,200 I, I think I would project them to be around seven wins this 454 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,600 season. So it's doable. 455 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,200 Like you said, they could go into that Nebraska game six and 456 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,600 out or five and one, and it wouldn't be anything crazy, but 457 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,240 they could go into that game having already five or six wins 458 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,640 on the board. Yeah, no, that that would be 459 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,000 wild, them going in six and out to that Nebraska game. 460 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,240 But it's not, you know, I, I've mentioned that to other friends 461 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,400 and they think I'm insane, but it's like it's FI. 462 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,960 You just go through the list. It's FIU, it's Western Illinois, 463 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,800 You're at UCLA. But that's not an insane Rd. 464 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,080 gaming. That's a UCLA team that I'm not 465 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,560 sure is much better than us. Again, they have a lot of 466 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,720 questions. They have some new coaching, but 467 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,600 that's not a home environment that, you know, I think it's, 468 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,880 it's not a crazy environment. We'll just say that I think it's 469 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,200 going to be a good number of IU fans at that game too. 470 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,360 LA has a very big IU alumni population. 471 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,600 You come back to Charlotte, you're home for Maryland. 472 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,480 You know, you're at Northwestern, but it's at 473 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,440 Northwestern, which is like not their stadium. 474 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,840 They're playing basically like a high school made-up, you know, 475 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,560 made-up field right on the, the banks of the, the, the, the, the 476 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,960 lake out there. Yeah, you could be six. 477 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,720 And, oh, and then you're like, you're playing Nebraska at home. 478 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,120 And Nebraska doesn't exactly have a stellar record over the 479 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,240 last five years of, you know, closing out games either. 480 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,840 So I, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. 481 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,200 I also know that, you know, where you get in trouble with IU 482 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,160 footballs when you just start saying, all right, that's a win. 483 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,960 That's a win, That's a win. Like it never works out that 484 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,760 way. So they'll probably be, you 485 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,960 know, four and two, maybe three and three going into that. 486 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,360 But I I have a hard time honestly seeing the three and 487 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:13,400 three going into that Nebraska game or unless things are really 488 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,920 off the rails. I think if they are three and 489 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,800 three, that's where you're like, OK, this is because then you you 490 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,680 get to that Nebraska game and you're like, are there three 491 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,920 more wins on this schedule if you're three and three winning 492 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,360 into that game? So I think you definitely look 493 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:27,840 at this schedule and feel like this is this team should at 494 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,480 least be four and two heading into that week and then going 495 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,640 from there to try to get those extra two wins to make a bowl 496 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,680 game. As someone who's got one last 497 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,640 year covering the team, you know, and you've covered the 498 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,920 team under the Allen Air, what are your thoughts on just the 499 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,960 difference of the approach than just the way that you have the 500 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,680 coaching styles between Allen and Signetti? 501 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:53,480 It it is a whole lot different and, and you can tell now we've 502 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,640 gotten to a point, I'm not sure if it was like this in the 503 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,040 spring with the guys who hadn't played for Signetti yet, but now 504 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,520 we've gotten to a point where you can tell it is it is wearing 505 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,800 off on everybody else, right. Just going to, I was at Big 10 506 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,480 media days near the end of July and just reading the stuff from, 507 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:12,320 from fall camp, it's like, OK, they're starting to like have 508 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,840 that same energy about the team and about themselves and, and 509 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,400 bringing in that tough love and knowing that, hey, every day is 510 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,240 going to be kind of rigorous as far as what is expected of me 511 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,240 here. And it's not necessarily just 512 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,160 kind of no, no disrespect to Carmel, but it's not the same 513 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,160 level of maybe complacency, you know, and, and so I could tell 514 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,520 it's starting to wear off once again. 515 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,320 We have no clue how that will actually affect the what they do 516 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,760 on the field, but this team is definitely at the point where 517 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,600 they are taking on the mantra of their coach. 518 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,920 Yeah, no, they, they, they are. And, and do you, what was the 519 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,320 student reaction or your reaction? 520 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,280 Just kind of the, the early Signetti vibes, You know, when 521 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,720 he came out and said the stuff at Assembly Hall, you know, 522 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,840 like, did did anybody any of this? 523 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,840 Because for, for us as IE football, you know, kind of life 524 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,000 where he's like, we took notice, like, oh, this is different. 525 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,040 Did did that, did that really resonate with students or was it 526 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,360 just kind of a cut here and here and there, here and there and 527 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:15,120 then gone? That's a that's a good question. 528 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:18,000 Like definitely that got students hyped up. 529 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,360 Yeah. But I'm not sure if it just was 530 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,920 this like a normal, just, hey, that was exciting, or if it was 531 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,000 like you said, the way you reacted like, wow, like nobody's 532 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,480 kind of like talked about IU football like this in the past. 533 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,680 But it definitely got people riled up that game. 534 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,200 What? I can't, I can't remember. 535 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,000 What game was that? Who were they playing that 536 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:35,600 night? Do you remember? 537 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,520 That's a great that's, that's so funny. 538 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,880 I don't, but I also, I'm I'm getting old, man. 539 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,360 I barely remember what I had for dinner last night. 540 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,840 I don't remember who they were playing. 541 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,280 It wasn't it wasn't Purdue. I don't think it was Purdue, 542 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,040 Michigan or Ohio State. So it wasn't like any of the 543 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,440 teams he mentioned it. Was Maryland, It was Maryland 544 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,720 because it was it was December, but it was that that first Big 545 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,600 10 game that you play in December of the basketball 546 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,240 season. And so, yeah, that was the 547 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,320 Maryland game. And so that's why there was a 548 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,240 decent student crowd. I believe it was a Friday night. 549 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,120 And yeah, people were just going crazy when he said that. 550 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:09,600 And and I think the students, once again, I'm not sure if they 551 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,760 had that same like, wow, reaction. 552 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,520 It's more so just like, yeah, like, let's go, let's do this, 553 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,560 you know? Yeah, so you know, we're talking 554 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,320 about Signetti and his swag. I will also say one of our other 555 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,840 sponsors, home Field apparel, check them out if you want to be 556 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,480 the swaggiest, I guess at the at the football games, they have 557 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,800 their can't miss kickoff boxes, which are just awesome. 558 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,840 The Indiana one is is fire as the kids, as my son would say, 559 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,480 it is definitely fire. 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You can always get 20% off your 570 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,680 first purchase using the promo code home 23. 571 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,120 So check them out Home field apparel. 572 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,800 All right, Zion, back to you. Well, let's finish this up. 573 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,080 What you know, we talked about what our expectations were, what 574 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,800 you thought, you know, what a good season was for you. 575 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,840 What you know, it's, it's always the question you got to ask at 576 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,320 the end. Where do you think this season 577 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,600 ends for IU? Do you want to give a win total 578 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,200 like Bull noble? I'll kind of let you run with it 579 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,400 however you want to go. But what are your your personal 580 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,280 projections for IU this year? Yeah, so I think I do have them 581 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,120 at 7:00 and 5:00 is the record. I'll I'll settle at I'll go 582 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:43,080 losses to since there's there's more wins and losses, that'll be 583 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,400 easier to say the losses, I'll say losses to Maryland, 584 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,040 Nebraska, Washington, MI and Ohio State. 585 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,320 I think those are the five games they lose and they they win the 586 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,240 other seven. And obviously that, I mean, they 587 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,200 make a bowl game. I'm really bad with like 588 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,320 remembering which bowl games are like, yeah, the big which ones 589 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,760 go to which conference go to which games. 590 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,560 I don't know what game they would actually end up in in that 591 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,360 scenario, but I have to go Southern 5 and end up in a bowl 592 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:09,280 game. Any chance you see them pulling 593 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,000 an upset over one of those? I mean, you just said they're 594 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,160 all losses, so no. But any chance you see them 595 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,520 getting close to pulling an upset against one of those, you 596 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,920 know, top tier teams they're playing? 597 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,200 Yeah, I think the Maryland and Nebraska games are both 598 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,600 winnable, right? And I think once we get to the 599 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,840 Maryland game, we still probably won't know. 600 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,320 I don't know what Maryland's schedule looks like. 601 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,400 We still probably won't know a whole lot about IU still going 602 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,040 as far as how good they are going into that game. 603 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,800 So like, it wouldn't surprise me if they won that game and you 604 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,440 mentioned it, if the Nebraska game was in Lincoln, I just 605 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,120 chalk her up as a loss. But the fact that it is here, 606 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,000 Nebraska, like you said, it's a it's a new team now, especially 607 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,480 even more so than last year. But like you said, they just had 608 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,000 the the tendency to blow to blow games over the last four or five 609 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 years. So I can see either of those 610 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,560 games ending up as wins. Yeah, I, I'm, I'm. 611 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,560 Looking at that Washington game as a really interesting game 612 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,680 because I think it's a better team than we are. 613 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,960 I'm, I'm not saying that, but they lost a ton. 614 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,760 I mean, they lost their coach, they lost a lot of the players 615 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,840 that got them there. And before Caitlin de Boer got 616 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,960 there, it's not like Washington was tearing it up year in, year 617 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,560 out. They don't really have that 618 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,840 amazing base. I think they're going to have a 619 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,720 little bit of a regression to the mean. 620 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,480 And that's that's a scenario where you could have an IU team. 621 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,120 They're going to have probably the biggest head of steam going 622 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,280 into a game at that point. Because they could be, you know, 623 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,920 they could be 6 and O going to Nebraska. 624 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,640 They could be six and one going into Washington. 625 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,080 Help. They could be 7 and O going into 626 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,360 Washington. They can be five and two. 627 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,560 That's still like, wow, we're we're going for bowl eligibility 628 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,880 in the middle of October. When I look at the schedule, I 629 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,280 honestly think that's probably, you know, an easier game to win 630 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,320 and maybe the next week at Michigan State, which everyone 631 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,920 kind of is chalking up to a win because it looks like Michigan 632 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,040 State might be a mess. Michigan State could be bad, but 633 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,400 that's still at East Lansing, a place that IU is not played well 634 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,520 historically, which you could say for almost any road value in 635 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,000 the Big 10. But I just, I look at the way 636 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,400 the beginning part of the season adds up with the road games 637 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,600 being UCLA and kind of Northwestern with a huge 638 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,800 asterisk. I, I look at Washington as a, as 639 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,560 a really interesting scalp that maybe you could get before you 640 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,480 go into kind of the, the, the meat of the schedule where you 641 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,680 play Michigan and Ohio State. Yeah, Washington is just such AI 642 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,640 think IU fans will probably, if they don't realize this, get to 643 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,320 realize this throughout the their time in the Big 10 coming 644 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,480 up here. It's to me probably the most 645 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,880 interesting program in in all of college football because like 646 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,960 they will have years like last year where they get a great team 647 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,120 and get the national championship and they will have 648 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,240 years where they where they win two games. 649 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,400 Like there's no other program. I don't think in college 650 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,320 football that like just swings as quickly and as much as 651 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,400 Washington does as a program. So once again, like you said, 652 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,120 they lost so much between transfers and the and the NFL 653 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,360 talent they had on that team. I have no clue what to expect 654 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,440 from them this year, how good they will be. 655 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,680 So I I could see that end up being a game IU can win. 656 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,440 But like you said, I still would say going in there, they're more 657 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,200 talented even with everything they lost. 658 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,480 So right now I'm I think it's a loss for IU. 659 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,960 But if we get there and it looks like IU is at their level and 660 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,080 it's in Bloomington, it could certainly become a win. 661 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,040 Yeah, I mean that that this is what is so fascinating with IU 662 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,920 schedule this year is, you know, a lot of years you feel like you 663 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,920 have a good understanding of where some of these Big 10 teams 664 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,960 are outside of Michigan and Ohio State, which I know where they 665 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,680 are. They're way better than we are 666 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,160 everybody else. I'm not quite sure what's going 667 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,720 on with them and they're they're question Marks. 668 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:53,240 And if all of them go the the negative direction, we could be 669 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,640 in for a great year that that never is the way it happened. 670 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,800 Some of these teams that we're not sure of are going to go the 671 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,160 other way and probably exceed expectations. 672 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,360 But you know, UCLA, it's a new coach. 673 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,560 Like who knows what's going on at UCLA. 674 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,120 Northwestern is kind of up for grabs. 675 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,760 Nebraska seems to be on the uptick, but I feel like every 676 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,120 year it seems like they're on the uptick and then it doesn't 677 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,240 really turn into a team that is that much of an uptick. 678 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,520 We just talked about Washington. Michigan State also has a new 679 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,920 coach in the same spot. And Purdue seems to be a hot 680 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,760 mess. Like, I just, I don't remember a 681 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,240 year where there's so many question marks in the Big 10 of 682 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,960 the teams that we're playing, where I'm really just not sure 683 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,720 what to expect out of basically every team we're playing outside 684 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,160 of Ohio State, Michigan. Yeah, and and certainly I mean, 685 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:47,400 IE fans will not miss the the Big 10 E finally, finally being 686 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,880 removed from that. Is it? 687 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,760 It makes for easier schedules like this, even though they 688 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,440 still do have Michigan and Ohio State, you know, there's not 689 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,240 that Penn State game there as well. 690 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,480 And it makes for a schedule like this. 691 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,680 So there's a lot of question marks, right? 692 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,240 I feel like right going into the season, it is Michigan, Ohio 693 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,440 State and Penn State in the Big 10 that kind of, no, we know are 694 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,200 probably going to be top 15 teams. 695 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,240 Outside of that, I don't know how far the drop off is or if 696 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,680 another team is in that category. 697 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,520 Nobody really seems to know in Oregon. 698 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,560 I'm so sorry, I forgot Oregon, I apologize. 699 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,920 Oregon. So it's those four and then the 700 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,920 rest is like, who knows, right? So it'll make for such an 701 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,680 interesting conference season. I will, I will end on this. 702 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,800 We'll take a step back from IU football. 703 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,640 Is there anything else you want to say about IU football? 704 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,880 You know, you mentioned forgetting Oregon, which is 705 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,480 normal. I've had the same thing where 706 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,640 it's like I'm reading, you know, I'm doing a little basketball 707 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,720 preview too. And it's like what you say, Oh 708 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,360 yeah, UCLA in the Big 10. Like it's, it's a wild thought 709 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,840 as as as a younger, younger participant in this podcast. 710 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,120 What are your thoughts on the conference realignment? 711 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,200 Because because for those who are a little bit older, you 712 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,480 know, I, I understand everything behind it. 713 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,600 It all makes sense. There's still a part of me that 714 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,120 I'm starting to get a little old man, get off my lawnish where 715 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,760 it's like I, I don't know how I feel about this. 716 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,920 I do kind of miss some of the, the regionality of college 717 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,840 sports and I feel like they're they're losing something. 718 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,080 Obviously doesn't matter and they're going to go forward 719 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,320 This. I'm just curious, what are your 720 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,520 thoughts of how all the conference realignment is gone? 721 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,679 Because you, you haven't really grown up with, you know, 20-30 722 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,600 years of experience of, you know, these conferences being 723 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,920 set up. You've kind of come of age in an 724 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,320 era when it's just basically everyone's moving all the time. 725 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,639 Right. And it still feels weird, like 726 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:33,880 you said, I'm not, I haven't grown up in the same way with it 727 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,320 as you have. But like, even to me, for some 728 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,639 reason sometimes, especially in basketball and football and five 729 00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,360 in basketball, for some, for some reason, Maryland is still 730 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,480 in the ACC to me every now and then when I think about this and 731 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,600 it's just, it's going to be very strange. 732 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,800 Like just the fact that a game like Oklahoma and Oklahoma State 733 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,480 isn't going to be played anymore. 734 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,360 To me, that's like crazy. I remember I've watched so many 735 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,520 like very good games between those two teams and just just 736 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,680 stuff like that. It it, it is so odd. 737 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,120 It's so strange. Everything before this year, 738 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,840 like I said, like stuff like Maryland, Rutgers moving, stuff 739 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,600 like the Big East falling apart football wise and kind of 740 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,120 redoing itself. It was like, man, that kind of 741 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,760 sucks. But it wasn't like, wow, I can't 742 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,880 believe this is happening now. I'm at the point where Oregon is 743 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,640 in the Big 10 and I know they're probably going to be a top ten 744 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,080 team and I just kind of blanked on them when I was thinking the 745 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,200 top of the the best of the best in the Big 10. 746 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,800 It's just, it is so odd. It is not going to feel right. 747 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,920 I, even though I'm younger, it's not something that I'm like, oh, 748 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,080 this is fine. Like, no, it's strange man. 749 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,840 And I obviously I, I have, I completely understand all the 750 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,960 reasons for it, right? That has been well documented 751 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,680 over these last two or three years. 752 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,760 It's just very strange to look at and feel. 753 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,520 Yeah, no, it is. And but we'll get it this year 754 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,160 and you know, it'll start. But for all of that talk, it's 755 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,960 like I'm going to UCLA, like I'm flying to LA for that game. 756 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,960 It's like it's I'm fired up to see a game in the Rose Bowl. 757 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,560 It's not the Rose Bowl, but it is. 758 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,480 It is a game. Well, Zion, plug yourself. 759 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,760 You're at WIUX this year. You're doing stuff with them. 760 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,880 Go ahead and plug all the all the stuff you're doing this year 761 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,640 and any of your socials you want to you want to get out there. 762 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,720 Yeah, like you said, I'll be on Wix this year. 763 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:11,200 I will also be at that UCLA game calling that game on Wix. 764 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,320 So you can listen to that. I'm doing victim plus men's 765 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,240 soccer this year, coupling games there. 766 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,680 You mentioned home field. I I'm done with the Indy Star 767 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,000 for now, but story that came out in in July. 768 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,560 So go and check that out. You can probably just Google any 769 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,080 star home field and it'll come up. 770 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,280 I wrote a story great, great story on, you know, Connor and 771 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,040 Krista and how they kind of built that up from from Hoosier 772 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,520 crowd and everything like that. So yeah, those are there's a few 773 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,160 places you can kind of find me throughout the year. 774 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,520 What? What's your? 775 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,160 Plan at you know, what's your plan after graduation? 776 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,160 You, you, all of us have been been there. 777 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,960 We've been seniors. We're we're looking for like are 778 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,160 you where, where are you at? Where are you looking at for 779 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,640 your senior year? And then what you know past past 780 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,120 senior year. I want to broadcast somewhere 781 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,160 that is the the, the plan, the goal of the hope. 782 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,080 I don't have anything set up like it is. 783 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,160 It's a it's a market in the industry where you kind of have 784 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,680 to wait till like February or March to really start looking. 785 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,480 But yeah, I want to broadcast game somewhere. 786 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:10,240 Well, I. Wish you luck. 787 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:11,520 We'll we'll have you back throughout the year. 788 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,560 Let's, let's have you back a couple times and yeah, let's try 789 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,760 and get together in in LA before that game. 790 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,520 There's going to be a lot of lot of stuff going on. 791 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,440 I that's going to be my 1 prediction for the early year. 792 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,320 I think there's going to be a significant number of fans of 793 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,760 that IUUCLA game. I've always been yeah. 794 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,440 I just, I think New York has always had a really good IU 795 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,720 alumni base. There's a really good alumni 796 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:40,160 base in LA for IU. And I think I think it's going 797 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,880 to activate and you know, if they're two and OA little bit of 798 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,800 a little bit of excitement, I could see again, we're not going 799 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,760 to take over the stadium. But, you know, IU fans get 800 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,680 engaged in ways that are that are sometimes surprising to 801 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,680 programs. Like I remember going to the the 802 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:00,640 the Gator Bowl down in Florida, we're playing Tennessee and 803 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,720 Tennessee, we basically had a half and half crowd. 804 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:06,560 And it's like Tennessee has years of football experience. 805 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,920 They are no question of better football legacy program than we 806 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,400 are. But it's like we were right 807 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,240 there with them and fan supports, right? 808 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,720 Yeah, that's, that's my early calls. 809 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:17,600 I think that UCLA game has a lot of fans. 810 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,840 So when you're broadcasting it, if if we got a lot of IU fans 811 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,360 there you you mentioned like hey, Scott and Crimson cast 812 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,160 mentioned this. Give me give me a shout out 813 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,640 during the, during the broadcast and the other. 814 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,000 End of that is, you know, let's just be honest, there is no 815 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,720 reason for UCLA fans to be like excited about IU come to town. 816 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:38,080 Exactly right. So so it's not like they're 817 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,320 going to pack that the way they would. 818 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,320 I don't know their schedule, but I assume one of like Ohio State, 819 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,840 Michigan or Penn State might go there. 820 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,680 And there's no reason for them to be like excited about IU the 821 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,040 way they would for one of those other games. 822 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,360 No, it's a. It's a great point and. 823 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,480 I've been, I've read a little bit like it looks like they're 824 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,720 from their perspective, they're just completely glossing over 825 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:55,800 this game. So that's a win. 826 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,960 Like moving forward, they're just like, oh, we're part of the 827 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,920 Big 10 now we get to just talk. But IU game is a win. 828 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:01,680 Like this is fun. This is what Big 10 teams do. 829 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,840 And and it very well may be a win, but I do see a good IU fan 830 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,080 contingent there, which will be fun. 831 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,720 So Zion, it was great having you. 832 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,360 We'll look forward to having you back. 833 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,440 Enjoy the beginning of your senior year. 834 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,440 Go get a Hoosier game day. Logger. 835 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,400 Logger from Upland Brewery, Very easy for me to say and for all 836 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,040 you listen to us there. Thank you for joining. 837 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,480 We will have more football previews as this week and weeks 838 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,720 leading up to the season starts, so until next time, this is 839 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,080 Scott for Crimson Cast signing off.