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It is Friday, October 13th. 
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All right, let's talk I, U and 
Michigan. 

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This is obviously, you know, if 
you if you're looking at the 

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schedule at the beginning of the
year, you're probably looking at

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that game and saying I'm not 
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have much of a shot in that 
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Michigan came into the season 
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ranked ahead of Penn State, 
ranked among the best teams in 

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the country, and they certainly 
looked like that thus far on the

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season. 
They come into this game six 

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and, oh, and really just a 
dominant team in a bunch of 

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different ways. 
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nostalgic for the Rich Rodriguez
era at Michigan when it really 

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did feel like you could beat 
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onto the field. 
That hasn't been that way for a 

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while. 
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obviously beat Michigan during 
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That's the only time Indiana's 
won in this series since 1987 

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and. 
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and even though they haven't 
really played a top level 

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opponent yet, they have been 
just squishing their opponents 

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in every single game. 
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Michigan played, they allowed 
three points, seven points, six 

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points, 7 points and seven 
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And then Minnesota actually got 
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Last week they allowed ten 
points and then Michigan's been 

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blowing teams out, averaging 
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And only allowing 6.7 points per
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not looking like a great matchup
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It's interesting because last 
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fairly well in the first half 
against Michigan and there was a

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statistic that I saw the other 
day that you know in Harbaugh's 

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era at Michigan. 
Indiana's actually played them 

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the tightest over the course of 
time with with, you know, a 

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margin of loss that has been 
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And certainly that was affected 
somewhat by Indiana winning that

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game in 2020 pretty handily. 
Last year, Indiana lost that 

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game 31 to 10. 
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that Charles Campbell field goal
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In the in the second quarter 
actually might have been early 

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in the second quarter, but 
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blow Indiana out in that game. 
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third quarter before Michigan 
sees the lead and that was a 

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really long drive where Indiana 
had actually pinned Michigan 

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back on their goal line and of 
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drive 98 yards. 
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though Michigan won that game 31
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of hand until the very end of 
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And you can look at that game 
and say Indiana, well, they 

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weren't good. 
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Indiana threw a lot of passes 
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Connor Basil act 25 of 49203 
yards, which on a yards per 

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attempt rate is is pretty bad. 
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interception Indiana last year, 
their biggest problem was they 

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really couldn't run the ball. 
Jalen Lucas had four rushes for 

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45 yards. 
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But Sean Shivers really 
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struggled even more and Connor 
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his butt. 7 rushes. 
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football if you get sacked it 
counts as a running play, which 

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has never made a whole lot of 
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But Basil Act was 7 carries for 
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certainly didn't help Indiana's 
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But they ended up rushing for 
eight tenths of a yard per 

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attempt last year 25 carries. 19
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Ronnie Bell led Michigan in 
receiving and and Michigan had a

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really good game through the 
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JJ McCarthy 28 to 36 for 304 
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So you know, even though it 
wasn't a a bad game by Indiana 

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standards, it also wasn't a game
where statistically Indiana was 

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that close with things and the 
defense deserved a lot of credit

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because that was a game where 
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And I think you could make an 
argument that that might have 

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been. 
You know the last game that the 

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defense played really well? 
You know, maybe the Rutgers game

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a couple of weeks later, but the
the defense really kind of fell 

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apart down the stretch last 
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This year, Indiana comes into 
this game certainly not trending

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in the right direction. 
They get blown out on the road 

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by Maryland a couple of weeks 
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They had the bye week this last 
week, and of course a lot of 

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change occurred with the 
announcement that Walt Bell was 

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fired as offensive coordinator. 
Rod Kerry was hired as offensive

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coordinator permanently and 
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which was interesting in and of 
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One of the things. 
That's been pretty prominent in 

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terms of I U coaches, whether 
it's Alan or Kerry, talking 

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about what they're going to try 
to do to revitalize the offense.

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Is they've all said well, it's 
too late to make big changes, 

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which is kind of a shame because
Indiana probably needs big 

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changes on offense right now. 
Currently, through the first 

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five games of the season, 
Indiana averaging 20.8 points 

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per game, only averaging about 5
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Their opponents are averaging 
close to 6. 

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Indiana is, you know, they're 
they're not doing very good work

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at all on the ground, rushing 
for 3.18 yards. 

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Per attempt, allowing 4.74 yards
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And what's what's unfortunate is
that not only is Indiana not 

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doing well related to opponents 
in terms of rushing, they're 

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actually doing worse in rushing 
the ball than they did the last 

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two years. 
They're about the same pace as 

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they were in 2021. 
Pardon me, in 2021 they averaged

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3.2 yards per carry. 
And in 2023, they've been at 

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3.18. 
Last year they were actually at 

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3.36, which isn't that much 
better, but it would. 

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It's at least better than what 
you've seen so far in this 

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season. 
Indiana is about 1/2 yard per 

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play ahead of last year's pace 
in terms of of what they're 

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doing on offense overall, but 
the offense is just really 

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anemic at this point. 
So the question becomes, what is

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Indiana going to do in this 
game? 

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How do they find themselves in a
position where they could 

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compete? 
And I, you know, I think what's 

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what's upsetting to me and 
what's been, you know, a real 

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struggle, I think through most 
of the Allen era is that that 

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feels like in games like this, 
there's just kind of this 

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preconceived notion that 
Indiana's not going to compete. 

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I'm not saying that's coming 
from the coaching staff, but 

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anybody who's paying attention 
is just looking at this and 

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saying, well, it really, it's 
hard to find a route for 

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respectability for Indiana in a 
game like this. 

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And you look at this and it's 
like this really does feel like 

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one of those games that's 
incredibly lopsided in terms of 

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a Michigan's obviously very 
talented. 

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I think Harbaugh, for all of his
peculiarities as a human being, 

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has really done a great job of 
putting together a very, very 

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impressive and formidable 
roster. 

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And it also just feels like 
Indiana's an entirely the wrong 

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spot right now, not just 
offensively, but really overall.

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like in terms of of overall 
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going to bite size Bison, the 
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there. 
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breakdown between these two 
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like a matchup of any sort that 
you could really rely on Indiana

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participating well in, 
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I mean, on the season Michigan 
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and S&P plus Indiana's 95th. 
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Michigan's ranked 8th, Indiana's
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Defensively, Michigan's ranked 
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Indiana's 54th and special teams
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the country like they are. 
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Like this is about as complete a
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We've seen. 
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Michigan team we've seen in a 
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And right up there in terms of 
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seen out of the conference, 
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State has been producing over 
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Even if you go outside of S&P 
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breakdown is the same. 
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overall and Pro Football Focus, 
their first overall in FEI and 

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Indiana is 71st and Pro Football
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And you go to the individual 
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doesn't stack up particularly 
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Statistically, they are. 
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That that doesn't sound or look 
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Indiana is decent in terms of 
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Unfortunately, that's something 
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is defend the past. 
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success on rushing plays. 
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stopping Russian plays and you 
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like that. 
You can go and read Taylor's 

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infographic on this. 
It's worth checking out to just 

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kind of highlight how bad this 
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Michigan comes in as a 99% 
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score in S&P plus of 44 to 7:00.
So this is one of those previews

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where it's like, I'm not sure, 
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And so you have to instead think
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how exactly does Indiana put 
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something worthwhile out of this
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And you know, as Patrick asked 
for when I asked everybody, what

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do you want out of a preview 
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What's a Cliff Notes version 
that I've probably gone way too?

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Long in even talking about this 
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But I will say that ultimately, 
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to the point where they can make
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where they can, you know, 
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next month win enough games to 
put themselves back in some 

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level of bowl comp like 
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They've got to start in this 
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be a mentality shift with this 
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We're not going to allow 
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the opening 15 minutes, which is
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player thing, that is also a 
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You know, I don't think you 
could look at that Maryland game

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and I've gone back and watched 
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It it wasn't just that the 
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compete against a Maryland team 
that was, you know, isn't that 

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much more talented and maybe 
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It didn't look like the team was
well prepared to compete in that

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game. 
And for all of Tom Allen's talk 

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about execution being the issue,
his team really for the large, 

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large stretches of that game was
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was set up in ways where success
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impossible for them to achieve. 
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oftentimes looked either 
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circumstances they were in. 
That's really got to change. 

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And you know whatever the the 
preparation process has been, 

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whatever the process that the 
the coaches have been going 

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through in terms of trying to 
get this team up and running and

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ready to go. 
I mean to me that's that's the 

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beginning part of things. 
This team did not look like it 

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felt capable of playing with 
Maryland, which was a sizable 

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difference from what we've seen 
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When you know that mean 
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looked that way in the first 
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But they came back in the 
second-half and look like they 

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were very much of the belief 
that they should be competing 

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against Louisville. 
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you kind of had the reverse of 
the Ohio State game, where they 

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look like they felt like they 
should be competing against Ohio

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State in that first half. 
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went away. 
There's something weird mentally

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and emotionally going on with 
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And you know, we, as much as 
players matter, the messaging 

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coming from coaches and the way 
that coaches are handling their 

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jobs has to be focused a lot 
more on figuring out how to 

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create a mentality among your 
players. 

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That they can compete, that they
are supposed to be there and 

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that there's things that they 
can do even in the face of 

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overwhelming competition that 
will allow them to at least have

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some level of success. 
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would particularly believe that 
Indiana's going to go in and 

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beat Michigan. 
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Indiana has to get obliterated 
by Michigan, especially since 

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all you have to do is look at 
last year when a similarly good,

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maybe not quite as good, but 
similarly good Michigan team was

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tied with Indiana at the half 
and and didn't really open up a 

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a lead of any size until the 
fourth quarter. 

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So you've got some some examples
that you could point people to. 

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I just you know for as much as 
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exclusively from the coaches and
everything we hear from the 

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players is very kind of locked 
down and and and clearly is 

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meant to kind of reinforce 
whatever message is coming from 

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the top. 
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this Indiana team and not say to
yourself there is something off 

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with the preparation, there's 
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atmosphere in the locker. 
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know, to me that's the big 
thing. 

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Like was was enough done in this
last couple of weeks after the 

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Maryland game, after the buy, 
where that approach has been 

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changed to the point where 
Indiana can put themselves in a 

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position. 
To start having success again. 

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So that's really kind of my 
overall my overarching thoughts.

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There were some individual 
questions that I wanted to get 

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to from people, some of them 
kind of time with what I just 

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said, but I think a lot of these
are good. 

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Let's see, first question, so 
from Robbie Malcolmson at a 

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minimum, what progress do you 
hope to witness with the offense

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against Michigan under the 
leadership of Rod Kerry? 

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I mean this is probably the 
hardest potential environment to

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be going in and trying to to see
any meaningful change. 

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You've got a Michigan team that 
feels like they're cruising, 

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that feels really locked in, and
you've got a an offensive system

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at Indiana that just hasn't 
worked so far this season to me.

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What I want to see is Indiana 
having some level of success in 

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one facet of the offense. 
I mean, if you look at the last 

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couple of weeks that Indiana 
played, you know, Cave and 

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Jackson had 190 passing yards in
the Akron game, had 113 passing 

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yards in the Maryland game, and 
then Chris Turner had 67 rushing

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yards in the Akron game and 61 
rushing yards in the Maryland 

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game. 
Those are your statistical 

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leaders in both of those 
categories to me, Indiana, you 

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may not be able to. 
Score a whole lot, but there's 

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no reason why Indiana's offense 
has to be settling for such a 

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poor showing on a per play 
attempt. 

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I I refuse to believe with this,
with the talent that is at the 

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skill positions and it may not 
be top end Big 10 talent, but 

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it's good enough talent that it 
can produce and we saw that 

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against the Louisville team 
that's clearly pretty good. 

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Having just beaten Notre Dame 
last week, there's no reason why

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Indiana can't have some level of
success in terms of moving the 

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ball a little bit. 
I don't know how much of that 

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will really see against Michigan
for the whole game, but Michigan

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is likely in this game. 
Frankly, do not take Indiana 

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that seriously. 
Michigan is likely kind of 

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sleepwalking through the prep a 
little bit as they get ready for

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Michigan State next week, who 
they very much want to beat by a

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huge amount of money or huge 
amount of points. 

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Money too, I guess. 
But so for me, can Indiana take 

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advantage of that? 
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game, whether it's early or 
whether it's late, can they show

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that they can consistently move 
the ball, even if it gets 

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Michigan second string? 
And can they gain some 

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confidence heading into this 
upcoming week where they prep 

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for a very important home game 
against Rutgers? 

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That's really all I'm looking 
for. 

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I'm not expecting miracles. 
I'm not expecting the running 

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game to suddenly start working 
better. 

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But I do want to see at least a 
couple of sustained drives. 

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There's no reason why you can't 
have sustained drives like the 

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The one thing I really have have
gotten frustrated with with I U 

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is this idea that, well, you 
know, you can't do anything 

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against Ohio State. 
You can't do anything against 

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Michigan. 
It's like. 

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It's not true. 
You know, there are examples of 

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teams that have multiple times 
against top five or top ten Big 

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10 teams been able to move the 
ball and there's no reason why 

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Indiana can't be one of those 
teams not winning the game, 

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maybe not even covering, but 
move the ball down the field a 

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couple of times and show us that
there is some additional thought

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that's put into what's being 
done. 

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You know, I what worries me is 
the comments out of the press 

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conference that have essentially
said, well, we're just going to 

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try to focus on what works the 
best. 

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The problem is nothing's worked 
like there's nothing is really 

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worked particularly well. 
And what little times you have 

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seen that happening where 
something's worked, it's 

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generally figured out pretty 
quickly by the next week, by 

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whatever scouting's been done by
their next. 

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So that's really what I would 
look for there. 

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Similar question from who's 
yours? 

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What positive signs would look 
like from the offense under the 

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new coordinator? 
And again, and this person 

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actually said the same thing. 
Michigan may not be the best 

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game to conduct that kind of 
analysis. 

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You know, if you can move the 
ball a little bit against 

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Michigan, even just to get into 
field goal range, great. 

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Let's just see that to start 
with, knowing that Rutgers is 

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the more important game right 
now for Indiana. 

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Because if they lose the Rutgers
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over. 
You can afford to lose the 

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Michigan game. 
You can even get blown out in 

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the Michigan game. 
But can you give yourself a 

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little bit? 
Of confidence going into that 

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game against against Rutgers. 
That's that's the real hope as 

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far as I'm concerned. 
Elbows in our our good buddy 

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asks this question. 
What are the success metrics or 

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bars of success for this team 
right now? 

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What do we need to see on the 
field to measure in my best 

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Galen voice? 
Thank you. 

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Not even success, but just 
progress for the team. 

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Hope I did that. 
Okay for you. 

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Look, I think what I just said 
about the offense, expand that 

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to the whole team. 
Defense is supposed to be the 

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calling card of a Tom Allen 
coached team. 

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Defense was the calling card in 
many ways of the 2019 and 2020 

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teams in terms of like that Ben,
but don't break style. 

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The idea that okay, we'll hold 
you to field goal, we'll get 

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some turnovers, we'll create 
some havoc. 

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Again, Indiana's got some good 
individual defensive players 

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that have not lived up to 
expectations this year. 

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Yeah, and collectively I think 
the team feels like it's gotten 

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progressively worse every week 
this season in terms of a 

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consistent 60 minute effort on 
defense. 

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That's got to change. 
So I think for the defense, you 

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know that you're facing a very, 
very efficient offensive team in

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Michigan. 
You've got a team that can beat 

454
00:25:03,130 --> 00:25:06,370
you at multiple levels, multiple
phases of the game. 

455
00:25:07,290 --> 00:25:09,890
And so I think a lot of it. 
Can you make some big plays? 

456
00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:12,890
Can you make some plays that can
be emotional plays? 

457
00:25:13,210 --> 00:25:15,250
Can you get excited about what 
you're doing? 

458
00:25:15,690 --> 00:25:18,170
You know, I've watched so many 
Indiana, Michigan games over the

459
00:25:18,170 --> 00:25:23,240
course of time that ultimately, 
yeah, a lot of times they they 

460
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,120
kind of Rock You to sleep 
because it just feels like 

461
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:30,800
Indiana is getting constantly 
pounded, pounded, pounded by the

462
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,760
physicality of Michigan and Ohio
State. 

463
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,600
So you counter physicality with 
speed, and if you can put your 

464
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,680
team in a position where they 
can make some plays and maybe 

465
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,480
pick off JJ McCarthy, maybe 
force a couple of fumbles, maybe

466
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,080
force some three an ounce, get 
some tackles for loss, you're 

467
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,840
probably not going to blunt the 
edge of what Michigan's doing. 

468
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,160
Yeah, I would even settle for 
overall on defense, Like, just 

469
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,320
just try to limit explosive 
plays. 

470
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:59,160
Michigan wants to, you know, do 
death by 1000 cuts for the whole

471
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,320
game. 
Fine. 

472
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,120
But what happened at the 
beginning of the Maryland game 

473
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:06,280
where Indiana, you know, is 
allowing like 60 yard passes and

474
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,080
Maryland was just making big 
play after big play? 

475
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,680
That is so demoralizing to your 
whole team. 

476
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,680
And I think it, again, it goes 
back to the basic idea of how is

477
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,920
the team being prepared 
emotionally and mentally? 

478
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,890
How do you try to get the team 
believing in themselves again? 

479
00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:26,930
A lot of it really does come 
down to this idea that you've 

480
00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:32,130
you've got to restructure your 
approach in in how you tell the 

481
00:26:32,130 --> 00:26:35,810
team to conduct themselves and 
how they're receiving the kinds 

482
00:26:35,810 --> 00:26:37,730
of things that are surrounding 
them in the game. 

483
00:26:38,490 --> 00:26:40,450
I don't know. 
Again, Michigan. 

484
00:26:40,450 --> 00:26:45,850
Bad place to start with that. 
But I just, I think so much of 

485
00:26:45,850 --> 00:26:49,460
this Indiana season, if it's 
going to pivot back to something

486
00:26:49,460 --> 00:26:53,180
successful, is going to depend 
on Indiana developing some level

487
00:26:53,180 --> 00:26:55,860
of swagger. 
They have to believe in 

488
00:26:55,860 --> 00:26:58,300
themselves and they have to 
believe that they can do things 

489
00:26:58,300 --> 00:27:02,100
and not the type of belief where
Tom Allen's running around and 

490
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,620
yelling and slapping people on 
the helmet because that clearly 

491
00:27:04,620 --> 00:27:07,060
does not work. 
We've seen it for the last 2 1/2

492
00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:09,300
years. 
It does not seem to engender any

493
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:12,700
level of belief in the team. 
Something else needs to be 

494
00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:15,730
tried, and maybe Rod Kerry's 
able to do that on offense, I 

495
00:27:15,730 --> 00:27:17,850
don't know. 
But what worries me is that 

496
00:27:17,850 --> 00:27:20,970
Indiana in general doesn't look 
like they believe. 

497
00:27:21,330 --> 00:27:24,290
And to some degree, what Alan 
does out on the field makes it 

498
00:27:24,290 --> 00:27:26,570
look like he's trying to make 
people believe that he and 

499
00:27:26,570 --> 00:27:28,730
Indiana believe, but they don't 
actually believe. 

500
00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:30,850
And that's that's a rough 
combination. 

501
00:27:31,390 --> 00:27:33,670
I would strip a lot of that back
and I would really try to 

502
00:27:33,670 --> 00:27:37,110
instill a quiet confidence in 
this team that can be punctuated

503
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:40,110
by explosive plays occasionally 
on offense. 

504
00:27:40,110 --> 00:27:43,630
That would be nice and big plays
on defense that keep Michigan 

505
00:27:43,630 --> 00:27:45,230
from doing what they want to do 
all the time. 

506
00:27:45,550 --> 00:27:48,310
We'll see what happens. 
Some other questions or thoughts

507
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:49,590
here. 
Fake Mike Woodson. 

508
00:27:49,870 --> 00:27:53,270
What's more likely Michigan 
scores 60 or more points or I U 

509
00:27:53,270 --> 00:27:54,750
is within two scores at 
halftime. 

510
00:27:55,670 --> 00:27:58,350
It's a it's a funny question. 
I mean, look, I the the thing of

511
00:27:58,350 --> 00:28:01,830
it is I think that the latter is
the more likely that Indiana's 

512
00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:04,790
have been 2 scores at halftime 
because a we saw last year 

513
00:28:04,790 --> 00:28:09,310
Indiana was tied at halftime. 
BI mean Michigan doesn't score 

514
00:28:09,550 --> 00:28:13,230
that many points the last time. 
The last time Michigan scores 60

515
00:28:13,230 --> 00:28:17,270
points in a game, they came 
close last year when they played

516
00:28:17,270 --> 00:28:19,190
UConn. 
They won that game 59 to 

517
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:21,390
nothing. 
You have to go all the way back 

518
00:28:21,390 --> 00:28:26,130
to when they beat Northern 
Illinois in 2021 to find a game 

519
00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:27,610
where they scored that many 
points. 

520
00:28:27,610 --> 00:28:32,330
They scored 63 in that game. 
So I'd be real shocked if 

521
00:28:32,330 --> 00:28:35,410
Michigan was dominating the game
to the point where they could 

522
00:28:35,410 --> 00:28:39,730
score 60, that they even would 
score 60 because a I don't think

523
00:28:39,730 --> 00:28:42,050
Michigan. 
I think Michigan would rather 

524
00:28:42,050 --> 00:28:45,650
take the time giving their 
backups some reps than they 

525
00:28:45,650 --> 00:28:48,130
would trying to grind to the end
into submission. 

526
00:28:48,130 --> 00:28:49,810
They would rather do that 
against Michigan State. 

527
00:28:49,810 --> 00:28:52,810
Like I absolutely could see them
hanging 60 on Michigan State and

528
00:28:52,810 --> 00:28:54,930
not batting an eye. 
I don't think they're going to 

529
00:28:54,930 --> 00:28:58,770
do that against Indiana. 
But so anyway, that would be my 

530
00:28:58,770 --> 00:29:02,090
answer there. 
Hilariously, somebody responded 

531
00:29:02,090 --> 00:29:05,090
back. 
Just Joey, Joey, 2327. 

532
00:29:05,370 --> 00:29:07,930
These are both going to happen. 
I doubt that severely. 

533
00:29:08,170 --> 00:29:10,450
Although that would be 
fascinating if that actually did

534
00:29:10,450 --> 00:29:12,770
occur. 
I'm always reminded, and I think

535
00:29:12,770 --> 00:29:14,410
I've shared the story a couple 
of times. 

536
00:29:14,650 --> 00:29:16,570
When I was a student at Indiana,
I. 

537
00:29:16,570 --> 00:29:20,690
Worked, among other places, at 
the student radio station WIUS 

538
00:29:20,690 --> 00:29:22,650
at the time. 
WIUX now. 

539
00:29:23,310 --> 00:29:26,710
And by the way, WIUX will be up 
in Ann Arbor broadcasting the 

540
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:30,350
Indiana, Michigan game. 
So TuneIn, if you get a chance, 

541
00:29:30,350 --> 00:29:35,350
99.1 FM in Bloomington or go to 
wiux.org, you can listen through

542
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:38,830
streaming. 
But I remember going up there in

543
00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:42,950
in the year 2000. 
It was me, my friend David 

544
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:44,190
Pierce, who's actually a 
professor. 

545
00:29:44,190 --> 00:29:49,590
Up at I UPUI, Jeff Meredith, the
friend of mine and then I think 

546
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:52,270
Sean Llewellyn was the other 
member of that party. 

547
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,180
And Sean, I think it's still in 
broadcasting up in northern 

548
00:29:56,180 --> 00:30:02,580
Indiana and Indiana lost that 
game at Michigan 58 to nothing. 

549
00:30:03,170 --> 00:30:05,810
And that was I did play by play 
on that game. 

550
00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:08,690
That was one of the the worst 
and hardest games I think I've 

551
00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:10,010
ever done. 
Play by, play on. 

552
00:30:10,210 --> 00:30:12,690
It's interesting because it was 
actually coming off of an 

553
00:30:12,690 --> 00:30:15,410
Indiana, Michigan game in 
Memorial Stadium, not terribly 

554
00:30:15,410 --> 00:30:18,850
different than what happened 
last year, where Indiana only 

555
00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:24,690
lost by three and had a shot in 
the end zone on a Hail Mary from

556
00:30:24,690 --> 00:30:27,730
Antoine Randle L that hit Jerry 
Dorsey in the helmet and bounced

557
00:30:27,730 --> 00:30:30,490
off. 
That was the 1999 game, one of 

558
00:30:30,490 --> 00:30:34,210
the better losses in Memorial 
Stadium history to to pull the 

559
00:30:34,210 --> 00:30:36,210
Zimmerman corollary back in for 
a second. 

560
00:30:37,410 --> 00:30:41,130
But Indiana turned around and 
got boat raced in that game, So 

561
00:30:41,130 --> 00:30:43,370
I always think about that 
whenever Indiana and Michigan 

562
00:30:43,370 --> 00:30:45,610
play. 
Like it's always possible that 

563
00:30:45,610 --> 00:30:47,170
Indiana could lose 58 to 
nothing. 

564
00:30:47,170 --> 00:30:49,770
But in this season, with the 
circumstances, I'd be. 

565
00:30:49,770 --> 00:30:51,530
Surprised if that actually was 
what happened? 

566
00:30:52,450 --> 00:30:54,850
William Henley asks. 
How will the play calling change

567
00:30:54,850 --> 00:30:58,100
on offense? 
I'm actually expecting there to 

568
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:00,740
be probably a little less 
emphasis on option. 

569
00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:03,460
Not that there's been a huge 
amount of emphasis on option 

570
00:31:03,460 --> 00:31:06,740
lately. 
Beyond that I really don't know.

571
00:31:06,860 --> 00:31:11,620
I mean one of the things that I 
I'm frustrated by is this 

572
00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:15,060
resistance that I U has to 
passing the ball and this this 

573
00:31:15,060 --> 00:31:17,660
animation that. 
Taven Jackson's the reason why 

574
00:31:17,660 --> 00:31:19,940
Indiana is offense hasn't been 
working well. 

575
00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:22,940
You know, Alan again said it in 
his press conference that, you 

576
00:31:22,940 --> 00:31:24,860
know, Jackson's still the 
starter, but he needs to play 

577
00:31:24,860 --> 00:31:29,210
better. 
And I I mean, I understand in a 

578
00:31:29,210 --> 00:31:32,370
very vague manner why that's 
being said. 

579
00:31:32,650 --> 00:31:34,890
And it's not that Taven Jackson 
doesn't have a huge amount of 

580
00:31:34,890 --> 00:31:36,850
room for improvement, because he
certainly does. 

581
00:31:37,090 --> 00:31:41,930
But I I I'm still very 
disappointed that that's been 

582
00:31:41,930 --> 00:31:44,810
the way that the messaging 
around the offense has been 

583
00:31:44,810 --> 00:31:47,370
carried. 
Because a, it doesn't really 

584
00:31:47,370 --> 00:31:51,410
feel like Jackson's gotten a 
fair shake in terms of the type 

585
00:31:51,410 --> 00:31:55,080
of protection one would need or 
the type of routes that one 

586
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,280
would need. 
I am going to be curious if we 

587
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,040
see Rod Kerry kind of open up 
the progressions a bit. 

588
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,960
Lot of people kind of were 
shocked in that Akron. 

589
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,520
Game that Indiana almost lost. 
You know there was that wide 

590
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,840
open play on the two point 
conversion in overtime where 

591
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,000
Jalen Lucas just like he would. 
He could not have been more wide

592
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,600
open and Jackson didn't even 
look at him to throw the ball. 

593
00:32:22,060 --> 00:32:27,300
And it it really felt like at 
that point I you offensively had

594
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:29,900
really put the handcuffs on 
Jackson in terms of we're going 

595
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:32,860
to run this play and you're 
going to either look here or 

596
00:32:32,860 --> 00:32:37,220
you're going to look here. 
I'm wondering if they've taken 

597
00:32:37,220 --> 00:32:39,540
the time or had the time over 
the last couple of weeks to 

598
00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:46,500
potentially open up the ideas on
offense for Jackson and you 

599
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:51,270
know, giving him more of a a 
green light to go through more 

600
00:32:51,270 --> 00:32:54,110
progressions or or maybe maybe 
they feel more comfortable with 

601
00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:56,310
him doing so after a couple of 
weeks of practice. 

602
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:59,990
So I, you know, I don't, to 
answer your question, William, I

603
00:32:59,990 --> 00:33:02,270
don't know how the offense is 
going to look different. 

604
00:33:02,350 --> 00:33:04,310
I wouldn't be shocked if they 
tried to focus more on the 

605
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:07,670
running game rather than less. 
I think that would be a mistake 

606
00:33:07,670 --> 00:33:12,310
because I think clearly Indiana 
needs to have an offensive 

607
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:15,030
attack that is focused more on 
the past if they're going to be 

608
00:33:15,030 --> 00:33:17,070
successful, because that's just 
really what they're built for. 

609
00:33:17,550 --> 00:33:20,480
But. 
I don't think, I, I don't know 

610
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,640
yet what we're going to get out 
of broad Kerry's offense. 

611
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,520
So we'll have to wait and see. 
We'll talk more about it on 

612
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,840
Sunday, but I I at this point, 
I'd just be guessing. 

613
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,280
One other thing I'll say on that
though is I think offensively 

614
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,320
speaking as we continue to watch
this Indiana offense kind of 

615
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:44,000
mutate based upon its personnel,
I I am really interested to see 

616
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,920
if they continue to have a a 
hook. 

617
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,600
For Taven Jackson, where they 
decide they want to bring in, 

618
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,240
you know, Brock Lowry. 
Excuse me, Brandon Sorosby. 

619
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,840
Not Brock Loud. 
Now they brought Brock Lowry, 

620
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,160
and that'd be a separate story. 
But no. 

621
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,800
Sorosby, of course, came in 
during that Maryland game, and a

622
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,680
lot of people are like, ooh, he 
looked much better. 

623
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,320
And while he did, I'm not going 
to debate that he did look 

624
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,920
better in that game than Jackson
did. 

625
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,590
I would just remind everybody 
that defenses prep against the 

626
00:34:16,590 --> 00:34:18,790
quarterback that they think 
they're going to see. 

627
00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:22,510
There's a lot more film on Taven
Jackson, Maryland. 

628
00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:25,350
Was prepping for Taven Jackson, 
Maryland. 

629
00:34:25,350 --> 00:34:28,110
Also by that point, by the time 
that sores became in the game, 

630
00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:32,190
had the game one didn't really 
care that much about what 

631
00:34:32,190 --> 00:34:34,150
Indiana's offense was going to 
be doing. 

632
00:34:34,590 --> 00:34:37,710
So for those people who were 
like, wow, they should just play

633
00:34:37,710 --> 00:34:40,429
Soresbee because he he looked 
crisper and he was more 

634
00:34:40,429 --> 00:34:42,070
accurate. 
I would just remind you that. 

635
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,280
There were reasons for that. 
That had more to do with just 

636
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,840
who was like, you know how the 
how he was playing at the time. 

637
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,159
I think a lot of it had to do 
with circumstances, not to say 

638
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,960
that you wouldn't necessarily do
better with stores. 

639
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,640
We don't think we have enough 
data or information to really 

640
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,960
know that one way or the other. 
But I would really caution 

641
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,520
everybody on taking too much out
of the. 

642
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,280
Last third of a Maryland game 
where Indiana was out of the 

643
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,400
game significantly before that 
time. 

644
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,240
So that's that's the one thing I
would note on that front. 

645
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,440
Couple other comments. 
CCW the third wanted a random 

646
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,360
reference to Kellen Lewis or 
Marcus Thigpen. 

647
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,720
Well, I've blown the random 
part, but I need no emphasis or 

648
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:29,760
reminder to, you know, just 
mention the name Kellen Lewis. 

649
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,360
Always one of my favorite 
players in I U history. 

650
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,960
And you know we need we really 
should I we should do something 

651
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,040
in the future on the podcast 
where we just randomly throw 

652
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,760
names of people in from prior 
seasons. 

653
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,720
I'll work on that and see if we 
can make that a regular feature 

654
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:49,760
of the of the podcast. 
Let's see Aaron Eisberg asked 

655
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,440
how much will we lose by 5060. 
I don't think I don't think 

656
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,840
Indiana's going to lose by that 
many points. 

657
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,560
I I actually if I was going to 
do a an overall guess on how 

658
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,800
this game's going to go. 
I think it's going to be. 

659
00:36:02,250 --> 00:36:06,330
I think Michigan's going to just
kind of steadily grind Indiana 

660
00:36:06,330 --> 00:36:08,330
down. 
I I think they're going to 

661
00:36:08,330 --> 00:36:10,570
probably keep a lot of their 
playbook under wraps. 

662
00:36:10,850 --> 00:36:12,450
I think Indiana's going to 
probably try to throw the 

663
00:36:12,450 --> 00:36:15,650
kitchen sink at things early and
they might get an early score as

664
00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:20,410
a result of that and then things
will deteriorate from there. 

665
00:36:20,530 --> 00:36:25,650
So I will say as far as a score.
Prediction India Michigan's 

666
00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:30,890
going to win this game. 
I'm I think I'll go with 41. 

667
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,640
To seven, which sounds awful, 
but I think that's about where 

668
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,280
it's going to land. 
It's not far off of the SP Plus 

669
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,000
prediction because I just think 
at some point Indiana, even if 

670
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,840
they do get the ball moving a 
little bit, much as I would like

671
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,880
to see Indiana move the ball and
be more successful there, I 

672
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,480
actually don't actually think 
they're going to be able to do 

673
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,680
it. 
But I also don't think Indiana 

674
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,880
is going to get completely 
obliterated, because I just 

675
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,280
don't think Michigan wants to 
expend the effort on that. 

676
00:36:58,830 --> 00:37:01,270
And you know they've got other 
games that they would rather be 

677
00:37:01,270 --> 00:37:04,790
doing that in. 
William Fulmer asks. 

678
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:07,870
I always love the tailgate menu 
discussion this week. 

679
00:37:07,870 --> 00:37:09,870
What will you be eating and 
drinking from the couch while 

680
00:37:09,870 --> 00:37:14,950
watching I, U? 
Well, I was going to do chili, 

681
00:37:15,110 --> 00:37:20,470
but now it sounds like I'm going
to a a chili football event the 

682
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:23,790
following weekend so I might 
hold off on the chili. 

683
00:37:24,270 --> 00:37:26,910
Might do some kind of a surf and
turf nachos. 

684
00:37:27,070 --> 00:37:31,710
We're like we've got 1 foot in 
fall and 1 foot in in like 1 

685
00:37:31,710 --> 00:37:34,710
foot in warm fall and 1 foot in 
cold fall, I guess you could 

686
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:37,670
say. 
And so you know, I like, I like 

687
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:41,830
the, you know, like a shrimp and
steak Nacho combo. 

688
00:37:41,830 --> 00:37:43,830
I think that that's always a 
good one, or maybe I might do 

689
00:37:43,830 --> 00:37:46,150
like a shredded beef or 
something like that as opposed 

690
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:50,030
to the steak, but that's what 
I'm leaning towards for this 

691
00:37:50,030 --> 00:37:51,680
one. 
I haven't decided on what to 

692
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,480
drink yet. 
I mean, obviously there are 

693
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,120
Oktoberfest, like, literally 
anywhere. 

694
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,000
I might maybe I'll crack open a 
dead guy in in honor of of this 

695
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,480
season and also in honor of 
Oregon joining the league. 

696
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,480
I haven't. 
I need to figure that out. 

697
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,040
That's a great question, though.
Probably we will be doing if 

698
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,960
Indiana drops, if Indiana's 
losing by 40 or 50. 

699
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:16,000
Might have to break into the 
Hard Truth Hills Cinnamon vodka,

700
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,840
but I haven't quite decided on 
that one yet. 

701
00:38:18,850 --> 00:38:21,210
Oh, I missed one question from 
who's your dad at who took 

702
00:38:21,210 --> 00:38:23,370
Maryland one drive to see that I
U is going to lose. 

703
00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:25,930
How quickly will Michigan do it 
again? 

704
00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:28,330
I I actually think Indiana's 
going to be in this game for a 

705
00:38:28,330 --> 00:38:30,210
little bit. 
I don't think it's going to get 

706
00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:32,130
out of hand maybe until the 
second quarter. 

707
00:38:32,330 --> 00:38:35,650
And even in that 58 to nothing 
game I mentioned earlier on in 

708
00:38:35,650 --> 00:38:39,050
the podcast, that game was 
actually still not completely 

709
00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:43,410
out of hand until you got to the
end of the first half and that's

710
00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:45,530
that's what I would predict in 
this one, so. 

711
00:38:47,590 --> 00:38:54,550
A couple other items to note who
Parazzi asked for a podcast 

712
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:57,310
devoted to I U volleyball, 
soccer and swim and dive. 

713
00:38:59,470 --> 00:39:02,150
Obviously we didn't do all of 
that, but I will say a couple of

714
00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:06,310
things on on the non I U 
football side of the equation. 

715
00:39:07,070 --> 00:39:09,630
First of all, a huge 
congratulations to I U 

716
00:39:09,630 --> 00:39:12,190
volleyball. 
They had a huge week. 

717
00:39:12,270 --> 00:39:15,230
I mean, you know, they they beat
Purdue at home for the first or 

718
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:16,870
be Purdue period. 
They beat them at home. 

719
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:19,070
But it was the first time that I
U had beaten Purdue in 

720
00:39:19,070 --> 00:39:23,430
volleyball since 2012 and Purdue
was ranked 15th. 

721
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:26,510
I mean, I think Indiana is going
to be right on the borderline of

722
00:39:26,510 --> 00:39:29,710
potentially being ranked the 
next time the polls come out. 

723
00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:32,950
Even if they're not, they've got
an opportunity to pick up some 

724
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:34,830
more wins here this upcoming 
week. 

725
00:39:34,830 --> 00:39:37,790
They've got Michigan coming in 
on Saturday. 

726
00:39:37,790 --> 00:39:41,770
That's a big game if you. 
Don't have tickets already? 

727
00:39:41,770 --> 00:39:44,010
I think that's it. 
That one's not sold out yet. 

728
00:39:44,290 --> 00:39:46,610
But that is absolutely a game 
that you should go see. 

729
00:39:46,610 --> 00:39:50,530
That's at Wilkinson Hall at 7:00
on Saturday the 14th. 

730
00:39:50,530 --> 00:39:53,090
So tomorrow or today, depending 
on when you're listening to 

731
00:39:53,090 --> 00:39:54,930
this. 
And if you haven't been to a 

732
00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:59,130
game in Wilkinson Hall, it is 
100% worth the visit. 

733
00:39:59,490 --> 00:40:01,890
It is. 
It's such a cool stadium. 

734
00:40:02,130 --> 00:40:05,930
And you know, for those people 
like myself who went to school 

735
00:40:05,930 --> 00:40:12,050
here back in the days of the. 
The the You, Jim, it's just a 

736
00:40:12,050 --> 00:40:15,050
such a different environment. 
It's so much better as a place 

737
00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:17,810
to watch any sporting event, 
whether it's volleyball or 

738
00:40:17,810 --> 00:40:21,210
wrestling, and it's a really 
cool, you know, and fun 

739
00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:23,090
environment and they'll be 
tickets available because it's 

740
00:40:23,090 --> 00:40:24,970
fall break. 
So if you haven't had a chance 

741
00:40:24,970 --> 00:40:31,050
to watch this team, this really 
does feel a lot like those early

742
00:40:31,050 --> 00:40:33,490
Terry Moran teams for women's 
basketball. 

743
00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:36,620
Like, right, You know, right 
around when they won the NIT 

744
00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:38,900
title, Like, you know that you 
could tell the team was on the 

745
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:43,500
verge of like breaking through 
and becoming a national force to

746
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,140
be reckoned with. 
And that's really what it feels 

747
00:40:45,140 --> 00:40:48,300
like here. 
So get down there. 

748
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:51,660
I think that's that's a that's a
really good option for this 

749
00:40:51,660 --> 00:40:54,140
weekend if you're in Bloomington
or even in Indianapolis. 

750
00:40:54,140 --> 00:40:56,820
It's not that long of a drive. 
Now that would be a big 

751
00:40:56,820 --> 00:41:01,560
recommendation for me. 
And I think, you know, it's 

752
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,920
going to be a big couple of 
weeks here for I, U volleyball 

753
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,520
as they've got a, you know, not 
just that game, but they've got 

754
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,440
Purdue again on the road next 
week. 

755
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,840
And they had a great recruiting 
week. 

756
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,360
And we didn't talk about it in 
the podcast that we did with 

757
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,720
Steve Ayrett and Rachel Morris. 
But if you go back and look at 

758
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,240
Talia Goodman's Twitter feed, 
Talia, one of our student 

759
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:28,760
reporters at I U who has been 
doing a great job of covering 

760
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,200
volleyball this week, it was it 
was announced that I U. 

761
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,200
It wasn't announced. 
With the news broke, Indiana got

762
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,480
their highest recruiting program
history. 

763
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,960
Jaden Jager I think is how you 
pronounce her name. 

764
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,960
Five star outside hitter from 
California. 

765
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,360
That's their fifth five star in 
the class alongside, you know, 

766
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,200
several other players that 
they've pulled in over the 

767
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,840
course of of this whole cycle. 
I mean there's some some serious

768
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,610
talent coming into this program 
and I'd recommend getting down 

769
00:42:00,610 --> 00:42:02,530
there and watching them before 
it gets impossible to get 

770
00:42:02,530 --> 00:42:05,970
tickets. 
So that's that's an update 

771
00:42:05,970 --> 00:42:07,850
there. 
On the soccer front, women's 

772
00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:11,890
soccer is having one of the best
seasons in program history thus 

773
00:42:11,890 --> 00:42:14,250
far. 
This women's soccer team right 

774
00:42:14,250 --> 00:42:18,250
now 10, one and four on the 
season, they're four, one and 

775
00:42:18,250 --> 00:42:21,610
two in conference play. 
They have not lost at home yet 

776
00:42:21,610 --> 00:42:25,130
this season and they've had a 
pretty good week so far. 

777
00:42:25,130 --> 00:42:28,810
I mean they they they had 
Michigan State, who's ranked in 

778
00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:33,540
Bill Armstrong Stadium last 
night and they drew 11. 

779
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:38,620
They beat Purdue earlier on this
week up in West Lafayette and 

780
00:42:38,620 --> 00:42:41,900
then last week they drew at home
versus Minnesota. 

781
00:42:42,620 --> 00:42:45,420
I mean it's they're they're in a
tough part of the schedule here,

782
00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:50,060
but there's a lot of of good 
soccer left to be played. 

783
00:42:50,060 --> 00:42:53,540
They've got Michigan on Sunday 
as part of a women's and men's 

784
00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:56,600
soccer doubleheader at Bill 
Armstrong Stadium and then 

785
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,280
they've got a couple of other 
games coming up here in the the 

786
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,800
rest of the season. 
They've got one actually this 

787
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,000
game against Michigan on Sunday 
is the last game at Bill 

788
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,880
Armstrong Stadium in the regular
season and there's still a 

789
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,280
chance that Indiana I think 
could host a quarterfinal game 

790
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,360
in the Big 10 tournament. 
I need to check the standings on

791
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,120
that. 
But, but overall, Indiana's in 

792
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,600
really good shape and and it's 
played very well so far this 

793
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,280
season. 
The man, if you've been 

794
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,880
following, have struggled a 
little bit compared to what 

795
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,360
we're used to. 
But they are still. 

796
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,840
They're 5, three and four on the
season. 

797
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:35,680
They just beat Evansville two 
nil earlier on this week and 

798
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,520
they have some really important 
matches coming up again. 

799
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,320
They host Ohio State on Sunday 
as part of that double header. 

800
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,600
They'll be the first game, the 
game that starts at noon and 

801
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,680
then they've got Maryland on the
road on Friday of this upcoming 

802
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,760
week. 
They've got Northwestern on the 

803
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,610
road next week and then they've 
got a kind of a the ending of 

804
00:43:55,610 --> 00:43:57,610
season get well game against 
trying. 

805
00:43:57,610 --> 00:44:01,330
And then they've got Rutgers at 
home for senior night on October

806
00:44:01,330 --> 00:44:03,490
the 29th before the tournament 
starts. 

807
00:44:03,490 --> 00:44:06,530
So it's a lot of really 
fascinating stuff going on with 

808
00:44:06,530 --> 00:44:08,770
I U Athletics. 
And then you add in that Hoosier

809
00:44:08,770 --> 00:44:13,810
Hysteria is coming up on this 
upcoming week. 

810
00:44:14,130 --> 00:44:16,810
I mean, just a lot of things 
going on with men's and women's 

811
00:44:17,090 --> 00:44:19,810
sports, men's and women's 
basketball getting underway. 

812
00:44:20,970 --> 00:44:25,570
Swimming and diving, the other 
one to mention, and swimming and

813
00:44:25,570 --> 00:44:29,130
diving had their first 
exhibition a couple of weeks 

814
00:44:29,130 --> 00:44:32,810
ago, and then they just crushed 
Kentucky at Councilman 

815
00:44:32,810 --> 00:44:35,210
Billingsley a couple of weeks 
ago. 

816
00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:39,890
They're on the road for a while.
Missouri and Auburn, they'll 

817
00:44:39,890 --> 00:44:42,450
take them on this upcoming week 
in Columbia. 

818
00:44:42,850 --> 00:44:44,810
They've got the Ohio State 
Invitational, but they'll be 

819
00:44:44,810 --> 00:44:49,210
back at Council and Billingsley 
on the 1st of December taking on

820
00:44:49,210 --> 00:44:51,890
Cincinnati. 
So anyway, little all sports 

821
00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:54,170
wrap up there for you. 
All right, that's going to wrap 

822
00:44:54,170 --> 00:44:56,450
it up for this edition of 
Crimson Cast. 

823
00:44:56,450 --> 00:45:01,090
I appreciate everybody joining. 
Once again thank you all and as 

824
00:45:01,090 --> 00:45:03,690
always a pleasure. 
Thanks to our friends at the 

825
00:45:03,690 --> 00:45:05,650
Back Home Network. 
Thanks to our presenting sponsor

826
00:45:05,650 --> 00:45:09,050
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We will be back with a wrap up 

827
00:45:09,590 --> 00:45:13,070
recap podcast of the I U 
Michigan football game. 

828
00:45:13,230 --> 00:45:15,950
That'll be Sunday sometime. 
We'll release that normally 

829
00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:17,710
around noon or 1:00 in the 
afternoon. 

830
00:45:17,950 --> 00:45:20,750
So keep an ear out for that. 
For everybody here at Crimson 

831
00:45:20,750 --> 00:45:23,110
Cast in the back home network, 
I'm Galen Claudio saying thanks 

832
00:45:23,110 --> 00:45:25,710
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