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Been a while James, been a week man.
How you doing? Doing great.
Just had a futures bet on the Rangers pay off so looking good.
I I picked him up at plus 232 earlier in the playoffs so was
happy to see Texas get their first World Series.
Good for them. Good for them.
I watched. I I used to love baseball and I
just. I watched none of the playoffs
this year. Just.
Oh, it was a fantastic playoffs. Fantastic.
So you you went to IU, you live in the state of Indiana.
I want to give you a chance to kind of you know as we run
through our our Crimson Cast crew here.
Do you have any Bob Knight thoughts, stories, or or things
you want to share? Well, I was going to school down
there when he was let go, and I actually ended up outside
Assembly Hall with a bullhorn in my hand at one point.
That I'd grabbed from somebody some other troublemaker and I
ended up getting like quoted in the newspaper.
You know I was I was honked off obviously and and it was it was
really wild. I remember Galen was like
reporting the mobs of students just going around campus.
A couple had stolen like a fish from shoalwater fountain because
coach was a big fisherman so they wanted to bring it to
assembly all. It was just the wildest thing
and. And so that is the first thing
that I think about because I was like there and that's indelible.
And the second thing I think about is how much I freaking
know about basketball because of that guy I used to watch the the
show and I would always be interested in like how the
motion offense worked. And like my knowledge at the
game of basketball was much better for years of having
listened and watched. So those are the kind of two
things I think about. I mean, he is basketball in this
state, you know I mean. Do you think the the great icons
of Indiana basketball, it's like him and Slick Leonard are
probably one and one a right? I mean, that's it.
So, I mean, we've lost both of them in the last few years.
So who's going to take that mantle?
You know who's going to be the next 1M?
Woodson may not be around forever, but he's got a chance
to do something special and I I think it's great.
They're going to honor him this year with patches on the
uniforms, which I think is absolutely appropriate.
Agreed. I I I talked to him once, ever,
and I was afraid to say anything.
I said hey coach, hope you guys do great this year or something
stupid like that. And he just gave a little hand
gesture and walked his giant frame away.
I'm a big guy and I don't feel small around many people.
I felt small seeing him in person.
He was a huge dude. So just some random thoughts
there. Yeah.
No. And I, I mentioned that last
night on the pod, you know, I was a GAIL and I took his class
together. I was in a couple press
conferences with him. And then just living in
Bloomington, he bumped into him a couple times here there around
town. And it's it just it it it's
imposing, like he's just, he was imposing.
He had a presence and he commanded attention.
When you when you met him and talked to him.
The the one story I didn't share last night, that one of my best
friends, Tom, who I grew up with in Bloomington, he and I went to
one of those Indiana classics like it was an assembly hall,
one of those little two game tournaments where you play two
teams in two days and the crowd was like, that's The funny
thing, People look back on those.
You know, this is early. This is probably like 9293.
Like people look back. It's like, oh you know, like
students always like students didn't show up then.
Like the place was half full. Like it Assembly Hall wasn't
always always full all the time. So my buddy and I, we snuck down
to the to the main level, the court level, and we're like 3
rows behind the IU bench and night just starts ripping Allen
Henderson. Like you think that shit's going
to work in the Big 10. Like it's not going to work.
You can't, you can't do it against again, Eastern Carolina.
How are you going to do it against Minnesota?
And Buddy, Tom was like, yeah, Alan, how you going to do it?
And night just like pops up, looks at us and it's like
terrifying because we're like, too, Like I was like a freshman
or an eighth grade. We were just like punks just
screwing around. And it's like, but he he he
looked at you like, Oh my God. Because like it's this like, you
know he's yelled at the crowd like this is like the the, the
Rudy sign he took out of the crowd.
Like I mean with him it's like he could stop the game and just
yell at me and make me run Like I don't know what's he just and
then like went back to Allen and walked off and it's just like
that moment of like oh I pissed off night like oh God, mess this
up. Yeah it's it's weird James.
It's affecting. I think I'm thinking about it
more like last night I was reading everything.
I was watching stuff. I was kind of look flipping
through Twitter, you know, today I've been thinking about it like
talking to some other people to it's just it's affecting me more
than I was expecting. Someone who you know, I had a
peripheral relations like I knew Bobby, I wasn't calling him here
and there. I didn't know Coach Knight, but
it's like just didn't realize how much of an imprint he had on
me and just how much he's connected with my youth growing
up. It's just it's almost like
losing, kind of like an uncle you don't see.
That often yeah. It it it does have that feeling
I, I, I, I get what you're saying you know when these
celebrity. Deaths happen.
You know, you may be a musician or something.
You know, you can go and you can listen to their music or
whatever and you're like, oh, OK, you know, you know, with
this, it's been weird. I've been watching BTN all day
and even replaying old games and and clips and interviews and
it's just, you know, it's just been interesting.
It's affected me more than most of the celebrity deaths that I
can think of a 100% same. And I've a lot of the stories
you've heard before. The one that I I either had.
I mean I'm old. I may have heard it and forgot
it but I I heard again that just cracked me up was you know
before the 1984 draft. It's a great story about about
night coaching Michael Jordan and like the setting the screens
and just go go search that on YouTube.
It's very it's you'll find it's one of the the top videos on
there. But there's a story where after
the the Olympics Jordan called the the Trail Blazers and was
like you know I I know Houston's going to going to draft Elijah
one like. But you have to draft Michael
Jordan like he is the best player I've ever seen.
And I guess the Blazers were like came back and like yeah.
But we need really need a center like we have.
We have Clyde. We really need a center.
And Knight was like, OK, draft Michael Jordan and play him at
center. Like problem solved.
He's like draft Michael Jordan, like play him at guard.
Play him at forward. Play him at center like draft
him and play him and then they didn't.
So I just. I thought that I love that line
of like, yeah, great draft him and then play him at center.
I saw. Something similar to that where
he called Art Modell and told him to hire Bill Belichick as a
head coach. Yeah, so I guess that didn't
work out so well, but nobody works out very well in
Cleveland. Also, the Izzo was on Big 10
Network and had a great story like the the year that Michigan
State won the title. He was saying that after they
beat Indiana in Assembly Hall, Knight called him into the
office. And so that's 2001 they or 2000
they won or 2001 anyway. So it must have been nights last
year and he called him in and and Izo said that he like sat
him down and was like you have a team that can win the title And
then gave him like 4 things. Like you need to watch out for
these three or four things that'll happen between now and
the final four and Izo's like goddamn if those all those
things like happened and it was a good thing.
He mentioned I don't know it's yeah, I'm like, yeah, I've been
watching BTN all day. I just, I wish BTN would have
like rename stuff because like I have YouTube TV and I couldn't.
I had to record like random volleyball games and like do a
season recording of Big 10 like all the stuff I don't want to
like because like I just couldn't record the stuff
because they didn't rename it. It was like all of my in my in
my my view it was like they hadn't redone it yet.
And part of me is like could you guys just waited like why not
just do this on Sunday like after you know the the day
before after football. Like why do you have to do it
like at, you know, 2:00 AM the night he dies?
Like give him a true send off. Yeah.
Anyway, I got one more. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nobody has told you so. I had a buddy who worked at
Marsh down in Bloomington, and apparently the coaching staff
would go like, into some backroom and just get deli food
brought into them. Like, you know, they have like,
the hot food at the deli, you know, fried chicken and whatnot.
And they. And so one of his jobs was
bringing the deli food to the coaching staff.
And his grandma had told him to say something to Coach Knight
about AJ Guyton need to play better defense or something like
that. And and so he, he did it, you
know, thinking well, this will be funny, you know, And and Bob
Knight looked, Henry goes, and he said something.
I don't want to screw this up. But he said.
So will you tell your grandma she's got a good eye?
Because I've been trying to do that the last three fucking
years. So that's that's one you
probably won't see because it's a very unique anecdote.
But but, you know, I mean, just kind of jacking around, you
know, having fun, eating lots of deli food.
Yeah, a good life right there. Well that's and that's the thing
we talked about last night is like he was so funny like so
quick witted, so funny. Anyway we'll we'll keep the the
tributes will keep coming It's like it's just it's I it's like
what I I need to get focused on. It's like all I'm thinking about
anyway let's let's get to football.
So do we have to man like grease your 20 minutes on on on night
stories and not talk football. All right, first first game.
I have a great line for it. We'll start.
Let's start. I want to start with a game.
Let's do it. I love this game.
Our new favorite team is playing our old adopted team when the
Washington Huskies visit the University of Southern
California Trojans. And Washington is a three-point
favorite. I love the Huskies to cover
here. Love them, love them, love them,
love them, love them to cover here.
The over under of this game is 76 1/2.
Would you take the over? So I would.
Definitely take the over. It's a wild number, but you'd
still take the over, right? I probably would, but I'm going
to stay away from that for now. I might be drunk by the time the
kickoff rolls around on that and cost a few bucks on it, but I
love Washington to cover this three points here.
OK, so you get to root for panics, you get to root for
points, and I think you're going to end up pretty happy because
Southern Cal is trash. Their trash, Their defense is
pretty bad. I think.
Their. Defense is trash.
Speaking of trash, let's start in the Big 10.
I mean a couple of trash home teams.
We'll start. Here we have Michigan State,
Nebraska, the Cornhuskers at Michigan State.
Michigan State is a three-point underdog at home.
What a what a bad sign for Nebraska if you're only a
three-point favorite at Michigan State A-Team, that's like having
a complete dumpster fire of a season.
Like all you can get is 3 points.
But that's what it is and it's actually it's gone up.
It opened at 1 1/2. They are now 3 point favorite.
So they're getting a little bit more respect.
But where? Where do you like this one,
James? You're right.
This is a sad day for Nebraska, right?
I mean, and they just handled Purdue at home and they handled
the Boilers. So I'm going to take the Huskers
to cover here. I don't like it more than a
field goal, but I'll, I'll take them to cover here.
Probably get a push. Other trash.
Let's go to. This Big 10 slate is dreadful
this week. I know.
So Ohio State, Rutgers, I think Ohio State is a 18 1/2 point
favorite. The over under is 42 1/2.
They got to do half of it on their own.
What do you think? What do you think here?
Ohio State covers 18 1/2 at Rutgers.
When I first looked at this, I immediately thought, well, OK,
Rutgers has had a week off to prepare for Ohio State because
they had a buy last week. This is a huge home game for
them, and Ohio State should be able to handily get through
Rutgers, right? But then I thought to myself,
how the fuck is Rutgers going to move the ball in Ohio State?
Fairpoint, they're not going to average 4 1/2 yards to carry
against that defense, I can tell you that.
Which means they're going to be forced to throw the football
and. They're not very good at that
either, so I'm not sure Rutgers is going to be able to score
many points. I think they will try and take
the air out of the football, but if you're going 3 and outs,
you're not going to be able to do that successfully.
So give me the Buckeyes to cover.
All right. Still on the trash train we have
Wisconsin at IU. I mean, thing is you I used
played Wisconsin really well. No, wait, no, they don't.
They always get throttled by Wisconsin.
Every single year Wisconsin comes in as a nine and a half
point favorite. Is this, you know, two weeks
ago. Obviously the line is reflective
of what we're seeing. Two weeks ago.
It's like that would have been like not even I wouldn't even
ask you. I said all right, you're taking
Wisconsin the points. They showed some life last week
against Penn State. Do you think that's enough to
make you feel like IU could stay within nine and a half of
Wisconsin? Do you like IU Money Line?
What are you thinking here, man? Do you think Penn State knew
there was a football game last Saturday?
Because I'm not quite sure. They knew there was a football
game last Saturday. And if it wasn't for two
boneheaded defensive mistakes on their part there, that's a
completely different game, right?
I mean. Guys don't get that wide open
and should never get that wide open and they did it twice.
So I think this is a gift from the betting gods here getting 9
1/2 on this. So give me the Badgers to cover.
I think they cover this handily. I know it's the tough question
because it kind of depends on how things are going.
But Wisconsin gets up 7 to nothing.
Like I'm trying to what the question I'm trying to ask you
is like how high of a live line do you continue?
Like do you go in on this worth, like Wisconsin scores in the
live line goes to 13. Do you bet into that?
Like do you do you take it up to 20?
Like, at what point are you done live betting this game?
I usually go by the eye test OK so it's a lot of gut feel for me
now. I know where the pre the pre
kick lines are. Usually if I'm going to be live
betting a game, I always look at what the pre kick lines were.
And just see where there's maybe some value to be had.
So that's the first thing I do. But a lot of it's just eye test.
So I mean it Wisconsin gets out and they have a, you know, 8
play 75 yard drive where you know, five runs, three pass and
they just everything is looking juicy and the line goes to 13.
Yeah, I'll probably jump on that 13.
Because it quite frankly, I think that's where this line
should have been, 13 1/2 somewhere around there.
So I think you're actually getting some points already on
Wisconsin. S&P projections have this
Wisconsin like 25 or something or 22.
It's like I think it's over 3 touchdowns for sure.
So this seems like an odd one to me.
It does. It's just a question of, you
know, can is Wisconsin going to have offensive problems also?
But nine and a half seems a little bit too respectful for
Indiana. All right.
We'll move on. Oh James, James, I'm so sorry
you can't bet an over under with me here with you.
We have Iowa at Northwestern N Iowa is a 5 point favorite going
in to Evanston. The over under is 30 1/2.
That's that's that's by the way there's a line this week coming
up Michigan's line that they have more points to cover.
This entire over under is it's just a wildly low over under.
So yeah, 30 1/2 over under. We can talk about it.
You just can't bet it. And Northwestern has a 5 point
underdog at home. It is the lowest total in the
history of college football. Is it?
Is this it? Yep, this is it.
And Iowa, once again setting another record because the
previous ones were also Iowa games.
They should put that up in Kinnick.
It's it's it's the second time this year they've had the lowest
total in a football game. So here we go.
I like the Wildcats to cover. I like the Wildcats on the money
line. Oh, nice.
I like it. I'm getting nuts on this game, I
think. Hold on, we'll do a.
There you go. This Northwestern team, scrappy,
they've They just beat Maryland. I mean, do you like them to do
enough to get the over? 30 1/2 is so low.
I mean, I know. I mean, I'm not saying you
should go and rush and bet Northwestern money line, but
getting five points when the total is 30 1/2 is significant.
Yeah. So getting those points is nice,
but I think Northwestern might just outright win this.
I think the total goes over. But I don't say that with any
confidence and I will not be betting it.
I I might just throw a couple bucks on just for fun.
But yeah, that's that's a ridiculous.
Line new new OC for the Hawkeyes.
Yes. Yeah, not related.
All right. Illinois at Minnesota.
Minnesota is a two point favorite at home against the
Illini A. Few weeks ago, I would have
taken the Illini here. But I think Minnesota's figured
a few things out offensively. Of course playing Michigan State
does that for you, so give me the go first to cover a small
line here at home. Penn State, who as you said,
like 2 plays changed that entire game.
But you still had a touched, you still had an interception.
And yet Indiana. Had they decided to run any kind
of aggressive offense could have really made Penn State in a
tough spot. Like they they got out of there
with a really close win. Like they lose that game to
Indiana and it is like it's bad times.
But they won. They're seven and one at
Maryland. Maryland is a 8 1/2 point
underdog at home. If Tom Allen weren't a gutless
coward, how you could have won that game?
Agreed. So I'm just going to leave that
there. Penn State did get lucky.
They got real lucky. And I think they're going to
take it out of Maryland. Maryland seems to have
absolutely collapsed. No kidding.
They got crushed when they got
crushed at Ohio State and then losing to Northwestern.
I mean, this is this is not a great Maryland team.
Penn State didn't look great to me either, But I think that
defense will be able to shut down what they want to do
offensively for the most part. I think they'll definitely clean
up the issues in their secondary and they should be able to run
on Maryland, so I like Penn State to cover 9.
All right, Next up, another huge line for Michigan.
Purdue is at Michigan. Michigan is a 32 1/2 point
favorite at home. Yeah, quick thought on Michigan
here. Does anybody other than Ohio
State fans give a shit about this stupid sign stealing thing?
Yes. Michigan State fans, because my
neighbor, who's a Michigan State fan, is like, will not stop
talking about it. And it's like, this is a nothing
burger. Like it's just I'm like there's
nothing here. And then what's even funnier is
for Halloween, he dressed up as Harbaugh with a scout team like
he had. Like the Michigan See, put an M
on his sweatshirt, wrote Scout on the back, and had like the
binoculars. Like I'm stealing plays.
But it's like, dude, you just dressed up as hardball, like
you're a Michigan State fan dressing up as hardball.
And he like, there's another Michigan State guy in the
neighborhood. So he goes to the house and the
guy's like, doesn't know him. He's like, I don't want hardball
on my lawn. He's like, no, I'm not hardball.
I'm the guy stealing signs. He's like, oh, what?
And it's like, it's like it's like this is not as big of a I'm
with you. It's.
I think Michigan State fans are into it.
I think Ohio State fans are. I think the rest of us are like,
I don't. I don't think it's a big deal.
I didn't know it was illegal. Yeah, go to another team's game
and watch. I had no idea that was against
the rules. It seems really stupid.
It does. But I talked to like, you know,
Robert from Michigan State, He's like, oh, there's like hard
drive, like it starts to become like, you know.
I don't want to get political. Like, it turns into like you
start talking like some of them Benghazi and it's just like you
start getting all this, like deep, like deep state stuff
like, Oh no, there's a hard drive.
And like, he knew and like, it's it's like, all right, man, I Who
cares? Like, we're paying players.
Let's get over it. Like, whatever.
But now I played baseball back in the day.
You change your signs regularly, right?
Even literally, we would change our signs.
Like, if, you know, I mean, that's just what you If these
guys aren't changing their signs, that's their problem, you
know? I mean, remember that stupid
giant, like, faces or placards that Kevin Wilson would have
people holding up? Yep.
Yeah. Wonder if he figured that system
out. That was probably an unbreakable
system like Navajo Code Talkers. Anyway, Michigan will cover 32
1/2. Points.
Oh, you think so? That's it.
Oh, God, yes. Oh, Oh yeah.
I think. Actually, I think Purdue might
be as bad as Indiana. I I give you this one exemption,
I will let you bet the Iowa over if you also bet Michigan to
cover it. Like it's funny to have a team
cover in Big 10 play. Have a team cover a 32 point
spread. I'd have two teams, then go
over, maybe go under a 30 point. I don't know how how you want to
play it, but it's funny to have like 2 teams go under 30 and one
just go over 32 on their own. I think it's going to happen.
All right. To the PAC 12.
Well, we have you already got our Washington, USC game.
That's it. Those are our those are that's
our those are our two teams. Yeah, we don't have anybody
else. We've got Beavers, Beavers and.
Buffs we pick up Oregon, Oregon State, Oregon State, Colorado.
That's right. That's right, Dion.
I forgot because they've they've sucked for a while.
All right, so Oregon State is that Colorado.
Colorado is now a 13 1/2 point underdog at home.
Man, the shine is off the Dion Rose, as I've known for saying,
I love the Beavers. Give me, give me Oregon State to
roll here. They're going to run all over
Colorado. OK.
All right, so Beavers by by 13 1/2.
I'm not going to say more of that.
Give us your What's your parlay of the weekend?
All right, so teaser the parlay of the weekend.
We've got Wisconsin, which will make them 3 1/2 point favorites.
We've got Northwestern, which you'll be getting 11 points now,
And we've got Washington, who will be getting three points at
Southern Cal. OK, sounds good.
Looking forward to it. We're getting getting to the
home stretch, man. We're getting close to the end
here. We got like three more.
Three more weeks. Yeah.
Something we should do, like maybe like a basketball preview
podcast or something like that. Maybe when some lines start
coming out for college basketball.
I like that. Let's do it, Yeah.
Look at some futures and things like that.
Do a Crimson cash special. Let's do that.
I'll start looking at some futures and we'll do that.
I like that. Awesome.
All right, man. James, as always, a pleasure.
And everyone else, thank you for listening.
And for all of you out there, this is Scott for Crimson Cash
signing off.