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Welcome back to Crimson Caskey 

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on clavius, got Caulfield 
joining here it is Sunday. 

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The 25th Indiana, no longer 
undefeated, they fall yesterday.

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45242 the Cincinnati. 
Bearcats are going to talk about

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that game. 
What we learned from it I guess 

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and what we had confirmed from 
it as the Hoosiers, I think. 

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If you were being realistic did 
about what you It expected, 

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although maybe not in the order 
that we might have expected it, 

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but a loss is a loss as they 
say. 

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So we're going to talk about all
the implications of that first 

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It's definitely hoodie season. 
We've turned the corner into 

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They also had something 

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yesterday that I had to buy on 
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features, the old logo of the 
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And it's like, guys that's just 
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You can't like people have 
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Indiana stuff as well. 
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now. 
Scott, how are you doing this 

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morning? 
Good, I've been here the whole 

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time. 
I've I'm actually looking for 

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the Big Sky Conference 
sweatshirt now because that 

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sounds like like I try and I 
love ho feel, but I have to take

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breaks from looking at their 
website for that exact reason. 

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But now like I heard that it's 
like, oh there's well, there's 

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you smack on the street, I gotta
get it, I'll get me a hit. 

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I learned something yesterday, 
two things, a guy follow 

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home-field on like every social 
media account that I'm attached 

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to. 
And so I actually found out 

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about the Big Sky Conference 
hoodie on Twitter. 

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Right before the game was 
getting ready to start and it's 

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like, wow, that's okay guys, 
you're hitting me right when it 

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hurts and where it hurts. 
I also found out. 

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Did you know that that home 
field has a Rewards program? 

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Scott, yes I knew they did. 
I'm not sure if I correctly 

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signed up. 
It's okay. 

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Look at this point. 
I should get the home field, you

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know, Learjet or so Meadows. 
That's that's actually kind of 

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what happened to me. 
I didn't realize this and I 

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logged in and I had to change my
password because it was not 

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secure. 
And when I logged in under that,

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not Olympics, guy 21 wasn't 
going to do it, not know, not 

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only did I discover that home. 
It has a Rewards program but 

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I've earned so many points that 
I could have bought both a 

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hoodie and a t-shirt for free 
with the rewards points that 

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I've accrued over time which 
that seems like a lot of rewards

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points. 
So I'm excited about that. 

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But I also its kind of it 
revealed to me how much I've 

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been shopping at home field. 
Let's put it that way. 

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It's a good thing that neither 
of our wise, listen to the 

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podcast that we can. 
It's true into the ER, or are 

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for our financial Planners we 
don't that they're not listening

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either so my doctor listens but 
my financial planner does not so

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okay. 
Well you look good. 

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I'm glad you worked out this 
morning. 

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Yeah. 
You know ready to ready to rock 

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and roll? 
Let's let's let's raise the 

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heart rate. 
I will say I've been just 

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peeling it off. 
This is one of the few times I 

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was so frustrated half time I 
called you normally we try and 

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keep a little more radio 
silence, not that we're friends.

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We just realized that we would 
end up wasting all of our 

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material, right? 
Fucking versus podcasting. 

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But yeah, I had to call you. 
They very frustrating. 

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And to the half, I mentioned to 
you on the call, I kind of put 

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it out on Twitter and we can 
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there's a real problem with this
team that when the wheels fall 

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off, they kind of death spiral, 
very quickly, very reminiscent 

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of like Bill Lynch. 
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The second half, they came out 
and looked more serviceable, but

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giving you kind of my high-level
view to it's like, but they 

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were, they gave up 14 points and
kind of their death. 

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Errol moment at the end of the 
second quarter and that was kind

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of the difference in the game 
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second half. 
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is like, if we could just not I 
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because it's not have those two 
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manageable game or something 
there, but it's like we can't do

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it. 
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know, 40 yard pass and a fumble 
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It just kind of fell apart and 
it's something that needs to be 

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eyeballed and manage because 
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whether it's the first half 
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stretches of the Western 
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Game, whether it's stretches of 
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This was just one of the worst 
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you saw it even obviously big 
chunks of last season were, you 

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know, they're just in a 
season-long death spiral but it 

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does. 
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on here where it does seem like 
when things start to go bad, Tom

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Allen and this staff. 
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really bad habit, unable ability
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And it's like we almost have to 
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depression first and then we can
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Ourselves back out of it but 
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have five losses in a row or 14 
points or it's just it's 

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something that needs to be 
monitored and looked at maybe 

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your doctor can look at it. 
But no, it's something that is 

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concerning but I mean it's to 
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It's like that's that 28 second 
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quarter is kind of in my mind. 
What lost the game? 

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Yeah, I mean, I think there's an
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agree. 
What lost the game was a team 

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unprepared to compete at the 
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has been a trend, not just in. 
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That's been the whole season so 
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struggled coming out of the gate
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I think they've been lucky, you 
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Illinois because Illinois, I 
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Kentucky didn't capitalize 
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And they were not lucky in this 
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Cincinnati knows what they're 
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And look, you know, it kind of 
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absolutely a spiral at the end 
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completely out of reach. 
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to adequately analyze because 
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Their defense, really played a 
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another story but when the you 
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frustrating is you have to play 
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matters early, so that you don't
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whatever they were down by 28 
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You know, it's like okay, you 
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to play better was when the game
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you make the comeback, you get 
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some degree of Striking 
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And and that's the moment that 
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well as you've played the 
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this team, it's like couldn't 
figure out when they needed to 

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perform. 
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didn't perform when it mattered 
and it ended up with a game that

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You know, not it's frustrating 
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Indiana being able to compete 
with Cincinnati, but they were 

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overwhelmed by The Moments When 
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Had no clue what it was doing. 
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is this I look at this 
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they do not have an 
overwhelmingly Talent Rich 

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roster, they've got some good 
players, certainly but this is a

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team that I think if you lined 
up all of the athletes for both 

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teams you'd say Indiana and 
Cincinnati or at least on 

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somewhat even footing. 
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really well, drilled, they know 
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They've got a clue. 
Both sides of the ball of how 

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they want to play in Indiana has
moments of inspiration but they 

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are kind of swamped by The 
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look like. 
It knows what it's supposed to 

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do. 
And this is just kind of been 

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this theme that we've seen out 
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The last couple of years, you 
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some degree to kind of like 
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Like it was an anomaly, at least
that's that's been the arguments

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like. 
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you kind of have to buy into 
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What we're talking about here is
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year, it's been kind of a Common
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Alan era. 
You know, you'll get good 

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stretches of play. 
But I, you just has this 

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tendency to shoot itself in the 
foot, whether that's with bad 

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penalties or just a complete 
lack of execution or play 

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calling, that doesn't make a 
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Sometimes, all three of those 
converge, sometimes you're only 

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getting one of them at a time, 
you know? 

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But you look at the Cincinnati 
team and it's like You know, 

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take away the two touchdowns at 
the end of the half, take away 

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the touchdown that Indiana gave 
up, you know, towards the end of

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the game which gives kind of a 
garbage touchdown anyway on a 

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fourth quarter Drive. 
I mean you take you can't take 

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those away because that was the 
difference in the game but if 

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Indiana is playing smarter and 
executing better, maybe none of 

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those touchdowns are happening 
and we're talking about a whole 

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different game. 
But that really is essentially 

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what this Indiana football 
program is they they're a team 

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that cannot take the mistakes 
away and it overwhelms, the good

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plays that they do actually make
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this is It's a continued 
problem, but it's something that

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I feel like you and I have seen 
in 20 plus years of Indiana 

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football, so I can't blame this 
current staff, but I will blame 

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them. 
They haven't been able to solve 

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this. 
You see this in games like this 

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all of the time and I wish we 
could like track and give this 

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stat a name but you know, 
Cincinnati goes up. 2:43 and I 

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cope this, this is getting out 
of hand. 

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The offense has shown no ability
to do. 

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Anything they finally put 
together a good drive, they 

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catch Cincinnati's defense 
napping, and it's like, alright,

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1710 were right where we need to
like. 

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Now we're back in this game. 
Like now we can kind of get our 

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footing and like now would be a 
great time for our defense to 

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either Bend don't break or just 
really put things together and 

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then, it's like, boom. 34-yard, 
touchdown pass, like just shreds

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the defense like that. 
Having the only thing more. 

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I you would have been a kickoff 
return for a touchdown, like a 

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few claw, your way back to 17. 
10, and you. 

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And I've seen that before. 
I don't know what we call that, 

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like, the Indiana special like 
or something, but it's like this

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play. 
We're like just don't screw up 

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right now, right? 
And that's when lessen, the blow

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coverage has happened, that's 
when the Miss kicks. 

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It's like and then that was it, 
it's like 2410. 

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And then you are seeing now is 
2410 and we'll give another one.

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Boom like another big blowout 
you know, past 3110 and then 

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fumble 38 cents, like there's 
your game but we've got to stop 

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doing that. 
Also we're like we come out like

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you said, Slow We lock in. 
It's like right now that we're 

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locked in. 
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ability to make any more 
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beginning of the game, was your 
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You're done now you don't get to
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And that's seeing that as always
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have been seeing that for 
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don't know why we can't ever 
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where it's like, right when we 
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play you could think of. 
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Because, you know, you look at 
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were mentioning at the beginning
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actually played pretty well. 
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touchdown and it's actually a 
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talking about even before the 
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But, you know, Indiana, they 
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a field goal, they tie it up and
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Okay, maybe Indiana's going to 
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play of the next Drive, been 
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horrific blown coverage by 
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Now it's 10 3 and you're just 
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any hope we've now, absolutely 
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It it is, it. 
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Scott. 
How it's just like clockwork 

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It's immediately countered. 
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And it's just, I mean, look, 
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give credit to the other teams 
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over the years. 
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me of like a soccer team that 
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and then kind of let their guard
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takes the kickoff runs down. 
The field, gets the ball into 

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the box and scores and now 
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again or that other team's 
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It's like you can't let your 
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And, and Happens later in the 
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way back into, like something 
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up giving up, you know, a 
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It's just, there's not a lot 
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Like you said we've been 
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It's not something I can blame 
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in a way because like, you know,
frankly, I used to just accept 

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that. 
This was what happened when you 

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were at Indiana and you were 
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lot of money on the coaching 
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lot of money on like making the 
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It was just kind of like 
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were going to make those kinds 
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or third-tier. 
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Alan's making a lot of money 
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professionalism and some 
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And yet I feel like we're still 
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first year where yeah, they're 
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exciting fashion and do things 
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we're still very Consistent. 
It's still a very vibey. 

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You no offense and defense as 
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grounded in fundamentals. 
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of good plays throughout the 
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defense. 
Did that defense also got 

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absolutely shredded like six 
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the course of the game. 
It's hard to reconcile those 

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things you know, because it's 
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that they play when they're 
doing well and you're like if 

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this defense could play this way
all the time, Indiana probably 

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would have won this game. 
Game and you'd like their 

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chances in a lot of games coming
forward and that's kind of what 

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we thought was going to happen 
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against Illinois and against 
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going to really bother with 
Idaho. 

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The defense has led up at very 
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unlike those two games it was a 
good enough opponent that they 

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weren't going to be able to come
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it close. 
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from this point forward is at 
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I think maybe not. 
Doctors, but be no but pretty 

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much everybody else is going to 
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caliber of team with probably 
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know, I think the chances of 
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or 60 percent efficiency game 
just isn't going to get the job 

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done. 
The way that it did the first 

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three games of the year, I want 
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we're going to play because 
there is some interesting stats 

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coming up and it's a spoiler, 
it's not great. 

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Yeah, but you mentioned this, 
you know, the defect that That 

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defense piece like this is again
where I get frustrated is I'm 

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seeing trends that I've seen 
multiple times before things 

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that you and I have talked about
in this podcast and starts to 

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get annoying seeing the same 
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was different about 2019 and 
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It was like, this is this is 
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This is this team is doing kind 
of kick it off the mistakes that

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this team has normally made. 
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different program and very 
quickly we've kind of snapped 

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back Into old habits. 
And what I'm saying is, what I'm

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seeing is also this feel like we
talked about as a lot during the

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Kevin Wilson era and even the 
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It's like this inability for 
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well together. 
So you have the first half where

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the defense just kind of falls 
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then give the defense credit 
they come out and it's like oh 

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they basically for the most part
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the second half and they give up
a touchdown, very late but they 

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hold them. 
Cincinnati's 38 points for this 

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the entire Fire the majority of 
the second half and then our 

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offense it does score two 
touchdowns but in the seven 

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other drives that half that they
didn't score, they gained a 

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total of 88 yards. 
One of those drives was an 81 

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yard drive that they lost they 
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So if you take that drive out, 
there are six other drives where

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they gained a total of six yards
or sorry set. 

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Sorry, 77 yards. 
It's like your Is now holding up

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your defense is stopping 
Cincinnati Cincinnati. 

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You know, the quarterback looks 
injured are losing wide 

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receivers like this is your time
to, this is what all other teams

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pounce on us. 
Like, when would we go to 

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Tuttle, or we go to our backup 
quarterback. 

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This is when teens just lay it 
on us, like this is not the time

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for our offense to go I'll read 
you taking out that 81 yard 

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drive. 
Here are the other non scoring 

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drives in the second half - six 
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Four yards - 2 yards - seven 
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Like that's not good enough. 
If you just cash in on to get a 

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field goal and a touchdown on 
two of those six drives which 

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isn't asking a ton, you know, 
this might be a completely 

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different game because now maybe
Cincinnati's offense, actually 

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feel some pressure to do 
something which even though our 

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defense is playing great, we 
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them. 
So they never really felt 

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pressure to like oh we've got 
Start moving the ball, it's kind

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of like. 
All right, we can go. 

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You know Cincinnati was probably
we can go 36 and out. 

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It's like, as long as we get a 
kill a minute or two minutes. 

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You know, we know Indiana's, 
gonna go three it out or 

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negative, seven yard. 
It's just like to have our 

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offense completely seized up at 
that point. 

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Is also not good and that's 
something. 

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Again, we've been seeing for 
years, it's like our offense is 

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playing great and that's when 
our defense get shredded and 

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then when our defense plays 
great, that's what our offense 

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seizes up. 
It's like guys, you got to both 

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lock in on both sides of the 
ball? 

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Yeah, I mean, Hey look it's not 
An untalented team. 

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But it's a team that just 
struggles a lot in the areas 

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that you can't struggle in. 
If you're going to be 

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consistently successful in 
college football, they just I 

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don't know how to say it. 
Like it's you look at what this 

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team has done more often than 
not. 

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And, you know, and this is 
where, you know, There's this 

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weird thing right now. 
We're, you know, criticism of 

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Tom, Allen's coaching is in some
circles like looked upon like 

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what are you talking about? 
He's the most successful coach 

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that I use ever had and that, 
you know, or at least since 

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Mallory and it's like that's 
that's technically true. 

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Yes, but he's also by a 
significant margin, the highest 

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paid coach that Indiana has ever
had in football. 

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And, you know, you look at 
certain things in the program 

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that have And certain things 
that haven't worked and you have

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to call into question, I think 
like what we're doing in terms 

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of a program because that 
ultimately is something that you

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know if you're going to look at 
Allen and say Allen is doing a 

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good job, you have to point to 
either. 

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Well they haven't got talent 
which isn't true because they've

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recruited pretty well while 
Alan's been here at least 

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related to IU. 
And this is where you can't say.

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Well, gosh, compared to the rest
of the Big 10 East they've 

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struggled. 
It's like, well, you know what, 

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the, you know, the rest of the 
Big 10 East might be recruiting 

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above them, but guess what? 
Cincinnati, not in the Big 10 

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East Western Kentucky, not in 
the Big 10 East, you know, 

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they've recruited. 
Well, enough over the course of 

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the last four or five years that
I get. 

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If they're losing all the time 
to Michigan and Ohio State and 

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Michigan State and Penn State 
fine. 

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But when they're losing these 
games, there's not much of an 

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excuse. 
There's not much of an excuse to

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come out against this. 
Fnatic team that lost a bunch of

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pieces from last year and you 
know is a really well oiled 

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machine, but isn't necessarily 
this great talented roster. 

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There's no real excuse to go 
into that game and lay an egg in

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the first half the way that this
Indiana team did. 

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That's a coaching issue. 
That's an organizational issue. 

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You get to the second half, they
get some credit for coming back.

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I was actually really impressed 
with how they came back. 

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I was getting excited and then 
the offensive line just 

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completely Springs leaks all 
over the The place and 

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essentially makes it impossible 
for Indiana. 

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Do anything offensively for you 
know, most of the fourth quarter

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and it's like again, that's been
a long-standing problem. 

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This offensive line. 
If you go back and you look at 

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the statistics from the last 
several years, you look at the 

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grading. 
It's been a consistent problem. 

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There's been nothing done about 
it at all. 

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And you know it's so Allen's 
this weird case where he does 

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enough things that get people 
excited and his attitude about 

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IU football is excitable enough.
That he has a lot of people who 

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defend him, essentially, 
regardless and look. 

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Indiana was a 16 and a half 
Point Underdog in this game. 

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So where they expected to win. 
No, but if you were Indiana, you

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kind of had to win this game and
you're at least be competitive 

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in it more so than what you you 
showed here, because you can 

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project out a little bit into 
the rest of the Big Ten and the 

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winnable games by and large from
this point, forward are all on 

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the road at Nebraska at Curse at
Michigan State. 

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Now, apparently out of the blue,
but as we've seen in this game 

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and we've seen with several 
other games in the Tom Allen 

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era, the game at Minnesota back 
in 2017, you know, any of the 

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games at Ross Aid Stadium, this 
team really struggles to execute

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and do things on the road. 
I looked to this game and said 

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this is going to tell us a lot 
about what we might expect out 

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of what this vintage of Tom. 
Allen's Indiana can do in this 

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sort of a circumstance in front 
of 37,000. 

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People not the most intimidating
environment. 

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Aunt, and they laid an egg in 
key moments in. 

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And it's just, it's frustrating 
because you can kind of see the 

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train coming down the tracks 
with this team and it just makes

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me wonder, like, where is when 
is the Improvement going to 

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manifest itself in the areas 
that we were talking about last 

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year? 
You know, the offense is 

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marginally better, but they 
still can't block. 

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You know, Shawn Shrivers is 
going to, you're going to look 

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back at this game, five years 
from now, but I know Shrivers 

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00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:40,600
had a had a pretty good running 
game. 

447
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,200
I mean this is this is actually 
better than I would have 

448
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,500
expected. 19 carries 79 yards, 
except 47 of those yards. 

449
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:51,100
Came on one run and that one run
was the one time that chivers 

450
00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:53,100
didn't run up. 
The middle, tried to eat a had 

451
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:55,800
to bounce it outside because the
blocking was so bad. 

452
00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,200
You know Connor basil, like 
there's 466 do 66 times in this 

453
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,400
game and you know, I would say 
what 15 20 of those were 

454
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,600
throwaways and like impossible 
scramble throws. 

455
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,500
One of them should have been 
intercepted and up going for a 

456
00:24:09,508 --> 00:24:12,000
first down. 
Has he never had time to throw 

457
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,700
the ball? 
He was constantly Under Siege 

458
00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:18,900
and the defense, which Tom Allen
was going to fix by taking over 

459
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,000
the defense back from Charlton. 
Warren, who's also struggling, 

460
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,800
let it be known at North 
Carolina this year, the defense,

461
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,900
when it needed to make plays 
when it needed to give the 

462
00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:35,700
offense time to get going ends. 
Up surrendering a 354 yard for 

463
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:38,800
Touchdown performance to the 
Cincinnati quarterback. 

464
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,600
I mean, that's just not going to
Get the job done. 

465
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,400
Tyler Scott 1010 receptions 185 
yards and three touchdowns. 

466
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,100
And so I'm not sitting here 
saying this team sucks because I

467
00:24:50,108 --> 00:24:53,200
don't think they suck, but I'm 
saying this is a group of 

468
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,800
relatively talented football 
players that just has these long

469
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,700
stretches where they look like 
they don't know what they're 

470
00:24:57,700 --> 00:24:59,400
supposed to do. 
And I don't know who you're 

471
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,300
supposed to point the finger at 
their other than the head coach 

472
00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:05,000
whose job it is to get them 
better prepared. 

473
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,900
I just don't think the no-talent
argument carries water so I 

474
00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:12,000
don't know, Scott. 
I mean it's like, It just, this 

475
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,400
is the type of game that just 
kind of, it feels like the same 

476
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,000
type of disappointing game that 
we've seen out of Indiana. 

477
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,600
Not just through the Tom Allen 
era, but through the last 15 or 

478
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,500
20 years, but Tom Allen is 
supposed to be able to fix this 

479
00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:27,300
and put Indiana in a better 
position in my off base with 

480
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:30,200
this. 
No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna apply a

481
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,600
lot, unfortunately. 
Sorry, Tom. 

482
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,200
But, you know, I give you 
credit. 

483
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,500
You didn't get me onto home 
field. 

484
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:38,500
Although you did you actually, 
you got a home-field sweatshirt?

485
00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:40,100
This is the most comfortable 
sweatshirt. 

486
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:42,600
You also got me. 
You got me a couple years ago 

487
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,800
back in to Pro Football Focus, 
which if people are not on its 

488
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,000
great statistics. 
It's kind of like Ken Palm for 

489
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,700
college football at a very 
layman's terms. 

490
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:52,000
But let me just go through some 
stuff for you to kind of let you

491
00:25:52,008 --> 00:25:54,600
know where we're at, to 
highlight your point. 

492
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:57,700
And what's funny is when I'm 
done with this, well I'll wait 

493
00:25:57,700 --> 00:26:01,900
till I'm done with it to say it.
They great things out. 

494
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:04,300
And this is really, I was 
playing around with us this 

495
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:07,400
morning, and this is kind of 
shocking, because when you look 

496
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,700
at the Big Ten, everyone's 
played four games and you know, 

497
00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:11,500
some people play hard Or Worse 
opponents. 

498
00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:14,400
I would not say that Indiana's 
played the toughest opponents in

499
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,000
that four games. 
Here's where we're at. 

500
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,100
When you look at often ranking 
offense, Indiana is 13th in the 

501
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:21,800
Big Ten. 
We're only ahead of Iowa. 

502
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,900
So like, we can make all the I 
can make all the Iowa safety 

503
00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:26,000
jokes. 
I want. 

504
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,100
We're pretty close to there, 
when you look at passing grades 

505
00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:32,800
for offense, where 11th in the 
in the, in the conference 

506
00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:36,000
compared to all other conference
teams pass blocking. 

507
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,900
Hey, we're 13th. 
What do you know receiving? 

508
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:40,600
We're 12th running, we're 12th 
and run. 

509
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:43,400
Walking take a wild guess we're 
last. 

510
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,600
Okay. 
So you can say all right well 

511
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,100
our offense isn't great. 
You know under under Tom Allen 

512
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:50,000
our offense has never been good.
We lost a lot of offensive 

513
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000
pieces you know that we're not 
we're going to make our bones on

514
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,100
defense like that's in 2020. 
How we did it? 

515
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:58,700
Okay defensive ranks We're worse
than the conference like we are 

516
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:00,500
worse than that. 
We're a different color. 

517
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:03,300
Everyone else is green and blue.
If you do PFF we're different 

518
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,400
we're turning into orange. 
When you look at run defense, we

519
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,500
are we have a little bit of a 
pulse here. 

520
00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:14,300
Where 7th in the Conference 
tackling were 13th past rushing 

521
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:19,200
were last and conversions are 
coverage, against receivers. 

522
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,300
We're last. 
Yeah, I mean, so our defense 

523
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:24,300
like this is one of those, the 
Special Teams. 

524
00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:25,800
Hey, were third. 
We're third in the conference 

525
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,100
and special teams. 
So there you go. 

526
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:30,100
This is one of those things 
where if I was, if you and I 

527
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:33,700
were doing a podcast middle of 
the Big Ten basketball season 

528
00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:36,400
and I haven't you, I took a 
couple weeks maybe, I haven't 

529
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,200
watched all of the games, it's 
like I just go on to Ken palm 

530
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,400
and look at the some of the 
stats and like To see Nebraska 

531
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,300
play in a while and they're 
Bottom of Everything. 

532
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:46,000
A big man, they suck. 
They are really like, have you 

533
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,900
seen Nebraska's numbers? 
Like, they blow on offense and 

534
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:53,500
on defense, if I made Minnesota 
football fan and I'm just 

535
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:56,200
looking at PFF, this would be 
like, man, India, I wish we had 

536
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,700
Indiana this year, they suck. 
I mean, like, that's the tough 

537
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:03,000
thing here is. 
We are bad across all metrics at

538
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,700
offense. 
We are bad across all metres and

539
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:09,900
defense against the Big Ten. 
Which spoiler alert, that's who 

540
00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:11,300
we're playing there. 
Rest of the year. 

541
00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:13,900
Well, normally this is where I 
would say. 

542
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,500
Or I remember you you might stop
me and say, but Scott, you know,

543
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:21,100
you'll find a way to win one or 
two Guild things aren't going to

544
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:24,200
go exactly to plan will find a 
way to win, you know, one or two

545
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,100
games here. 
Their teams might get worse, we 

546
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:28,900
might get a little bit better. 
Yes. 

547
00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:32,400
But last year didn't work that 
way last year. 

548
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,500
We just lost out. 
And so I'm not saying that's 

549
00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:39,900
going to happen again, but I 
have a pretty damn bad taste in 

550
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:43,100
my mouth from Last year because 
we saw it happen where this team

551
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:47,100
desk spiraled, the entire season
we just saw them have a mini 

552
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,000
death spiral against Cincinnati.
And so I have a tough time here 

553
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,600
saying that were the worst 
greatest team in the Big Ten. 

554
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:56,300
We could just lose that mean, 
there are winnable games on 

555
00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:57,900
their Michigan state. 
Looks like a mess. 

556
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:00,900
I don't think Rutgers is a world
beater. 

557
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:02,800
Purdue looks like they could be 
beatable. 

558
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:06,200
Oddly Penn State doesn't great 
out here very well, but I don't 

559
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,000
think we're going to go into 
happy or they're coming up. 

560
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,800
We're not going to beat them. 
But, you know, there, Are 

561
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,700
winnable games on the schedule 
but the numbers don't look good.

562
00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:18,300
And then the recent history of 
last year, this team showed that

563
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:22,000
it could just basically pack up 
start October 1st and be done 

564
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,200
with the year. 
Also really doesn't look good. 

565
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,600
So no, it doesn't. 
This team is going to have to do

566
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,400
something that the numbers don't
indicate that the eyes don't 

567
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,500
indicate like they're going to 
have to do something different, 

568
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:36,800
because if you're Tom Allen at 
this point, a three win season 

569
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,300
and losing out from here, just 
isn't good enough. 

570
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,700
One more win. 
So, and again, he's not going to

571
00:29:42,708 --> 00:29:45,100
be fired. 
The contract doesn't allow it. 

572
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:49,700
But it's like you spend all this
time talking about fans and fan 

573
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:52,100
engagement and interest and we 
got to pack the Rockets like 

574
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:54,900
well you gotta win some more 
games. 

575
00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:56,000
Like he just you've got to do 
it. 

576
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,500
You've got to find ways to do it
and win these games. 

577
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:01,700
This is a, I don't know man. 
But yeah the the looking through

578
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:05,100
PFF it's frightening how bad we 
grayed out. 

579
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:08,600
Well all levels of football and 
you know just to make sure 

580
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,700
everybody's on the same page 
like these are observations A 

581
00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:13,500
tional grades where you're going
through and you're looking at 

582
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:16,800
the way the teams are playing, 
you know, combining that with 

583
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,100
some statistical analysis. 
So you know, there's look 

584
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:23,400
there's some there's some 
subjective qualitative stuff 

585
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,100
that goes into it but there's 
some quantitative stuff too and 

586
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:27,900
I, you know, all the things you 
just said there is. 

587
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:31,400
But when we're last inaudible, 
probably do not like, not like, 

588
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,200
when your fourth or fifth, it's 
like, okay, maybe we should be 

589
00:30:33,208 --> 00:30:34,700
first, like, when your last 
across the board? 

590
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:37,800
It's like, I'm agreeing with you
and what I'm going to say is, 

591
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:41,600
you know, you look at it. 
And the problem is, ultimately, 

592
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:46,300
we've got four games in the can 
some teams have played five 

593
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:47,600
games. 
Like we've got enough of a 

594
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,000
sample size. 
Now we've got a third of the 

595
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,300
Season played that you can look 
and say with some certainty 

596
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:56,800
here's how teams are likely 
going to grayed out. 

597
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,100
So all those things that you 
mentioned regarding IU and the 

598
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:03,000
way that they compared to the 
rest of the Big Ten in the PFF 

599
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,900
grading, I think are very valid,
the other one that's really 

600
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:08,200
valid. 
Do you know what Indiana ranks 

601
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,900
among all FBS teams in terms of 
like All of those factors 

602
00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:16,600
offense, which you do breaks 
down into past success. 

603
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,600
Run success, blocking success in
the passing game, running game, 

604
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,400
defensive success, special 
teams. 

605
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:24,700
What do you know what Indiana 
grades out to in terms of 

606
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:27,000
ranking? 
I didn't want to look at that. 

607
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,800
Yeah, I just prefer not so they 
are there. 131 teams in FBS 

608
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,000
Indiana's, re-rated 117th out of
131. 

609
00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:42,300
They are the only team in 
outside the top hundred that has

610
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:47,800
more than two wins which tells 
you that essentially they've won

611
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,800
three of their games despite not
playing well at all. 

612
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,900
They've gotten lucky to some 
degree. 

613
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:55,500
We talked about that before. 
And you know, look luck is part 

614
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:59,000
of football, but you look at the
teams below them. 

615
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,200
The only teams that they're 
better than right now. 

616
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,500
This is not exactly a murderer's
row Colorado State, Miami of 

617
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:10,600
Ohio, Nevada, Western Michigan 
UMass, Charlotte, New Mexico, 

618
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:12,700
South Carolina, who has truly 
looked off. 

619
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:15,800
This year, so I guess there's 
something small to cheer for 

620
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:20,000
Louisiana, Monroe, Hawaii, Ford 
international Akron, New Mexico,

621
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,100
state and Colorado, who has 
seized the worst team in FBS 

622
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:26,600
mantle from Washington State and
is running around the field with

623
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,800
it. 
Right now, that's it. 

624
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,400
And what what's funny is those 
teams you just listed. 

625
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,600
It's also, I just, I have a 
weekly call. 

626
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,400
Kevin Warren. 
Those are all the teams are 

627
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,900
looking to add to the big city 
west. 

628
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:38,000
There was looking bad that 
entire group, just for the Big 

629
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,600
Ten West. 
And we're going to get Alabama 

630
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,600
and cleanse it yet. 
Go ahead. 

631
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:47,700
So you know, look here. 
Is the thing the the team I 

632
00:32:47,708 --> 00:32:49,900
would really like this. 
I you team to go to a bowl. 

633
00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:53,400
I would like this team to play. 
Well, I really would, I would 

634
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,200
like Tom Allen to have a 
successful career at Indiana. 

635
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,000
He's going to be here for a 
while so I wish him the best. 

636
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:01,800
But I'm really frustrated like 
to go into my garage and have my

637
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,200
2016 pilot, just be a 2022 pile.
Like I just, I would love to see

638
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,400
that happen. 
I just really frustrated because

639
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,300
this is not an untalented 
football team. 

640
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,500
And, and last year's team was An
untalented football team and yet

641
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,000
they've not played well. 
They've won three games and then

642
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,600
they got kind of boat raced by a
group of five team on the road. 

643
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,600
It could have been a lot worse. 
It could have been better but it

644
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,000
could have been a lot worse. 
It's so, you know. 

645
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,900
And we talked about this at the 
beginning of the year. 

646
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,400
There's a lot of trust issues 
that I, you fans who are not 

647
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:39,500
like, you know, the type that 
just roots for the team, 

648
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:42,100
regardless of what happens, but 
is actually trying to be 

649
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,600
intelligent. 
About the way that they're 

650
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,300
approaching their fandom and how
they feel about things. 

651
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,100
It's it's not been good enough 
like they're not playing well 

652
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:55,200
even in Victory and then you see
yesterday the you know the pass 

653
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,500
blocking number for that game. 
If you look at the PFF ratings 

654
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:04,000
is 29.8, they'd already had a 
35.6. 

655
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,199
You go back and look at last 
year's offensive line ratings 

656
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:12,600
the lowest the lowest pass 
blocking rating that PFF gave 

657
00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:14,600
Last year was against 
Cincinnati. 

658
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,100
It was a 42.7. 
This is on a 100 scale. 

659
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,800
So you've already had two games 
offensive line, wise worse than 

660
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,300
your worst game last year in the
offensive line. 

661
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:29,600
And you have to go all the way 
back to, you know, a couple of 

662
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,199
games in the 2020 season to get 
numbers that were lower than 

663
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:35,400
what you're seeing and it was 
Penn State. 

664
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,699
Which as you remember, Michael 
penix is running all over the 

665
00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:40,100
place. 
In that one, Ohio, State, same 

666
00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:44,000
thing, and that game it was 
concen, which Indiana largely 

667
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,300
one through Wisconsin, just 
being terrible on offense. 

668
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:52,100
It's this is a consistent issue.
Defensively is, I mean, so I'm 

669
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:55,100
kind of expecting the offensive 
line, I guess, I shouldn't, but 

670
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:57,800
I'm expecting them to not play 
well, but it's like, why hasn't 

671
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,800
that been addressed in a more 
direct manner? 

672
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:04,000
Because it's actively hurting 
Indiana's ability to compete and

673
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,200
then you go on the defensive 
side, there's like coaches, who 

674
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,600
focus on offensive line, like, 
there's a wealth of wine 

675
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,100
coordinator. 
My understanding is like an 

676
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:14,300
that's a job that can be Placed 
and you can have new people 

677
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:20,800
there and I just, you know, it's
just that that other programs do

678
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,300
at times but it's also wild to 
me. 

679
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:25,900
Like if it's like Supreme Court 
Justice, like maybe I'm wrong. 

680
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:27,300
Maybe I don't understand college
football. 

681
00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:30,300
Like, maybe when you get the 
offensive line coach job, it's 

682
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:33,100
like a supreme court nomination.
Like, oh, you're just that's it 

683
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:35,600
for life. 
Like we, he believes in a 

684
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,100
right-wing view of offensive 
line coaching, and that's just 

685
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:40,700
the way it is. 
We gotta, we gotta pack the 

686
00:35:40,707 --> 00:35:42,600
court, but we gotta get more 
offensive line coach. 

687
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:44,700
Coaches. 
But, you know, it's deeper than 

688
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:49,700
just that what's Wild to me is 
what's like this defense is so 

689
00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:53,900
inconsistent and and it's 
really, it's really bizarre 

690
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,700
because, you know, all that all 
the talk and particularly where 

691
00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:00,400
the defense was supposed to be 
good, which was the secondary. 

692
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:04,000
You got Taiwan Mullen back, 
you've got Josh sanguinetti, 

693
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,700
you've got Brian Fitzgerald 
who's been around forever. 

694
00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:09,400
You know, you've got these 
really talented players back 

695
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,600
there and and they just looked 
like They're not sure what 

696
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,000
they're supposed to do at Key 
moments and it's been through 

697
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,900
all four games. 
And so look I think the 

698
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:22,200
offensive line is a big issue 
and you know your points are 

699
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,300
well taken and funny to me. 
But I guess my concern to some 

700
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:32,900
degree is I see the same sorts 
of lack of attention to detail 

701
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:35,700
and the same like letting your 
foot off the gas or not paying 

702
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:37,500
attention to what you're 
supposed to be doing and it ends

703
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:40,500
up hurting what your team is 
doing now on the defensive side 

704
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:43,900
as well. 
And this is a A real concern. 

705
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:50,400
Because momentum wise, this is a
program that we've seen these 

706
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,900
Cycles where the team just stops
playing well and you start to 

707
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:57,800
see these systems failures at 
inopportune moments. 

708
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,600
I mean, you know, the big, the 
only time that I remember I you 

709
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,400
football being like just 
completely unwatchable from 

710
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,600
start to finish every game, was 
the jury dinardo era. 

711
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,600
You know, people forget in the 
bill in Shara like those teams 

712
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,600
competed in certain games, but 
they would have Keet like to 

713
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,800
Three or four key plays, where 
they would just like, it was 

714
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,600
like, they left their bodies and
they were incapable of 

715
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,400
understanding, like, what they 
were supposed to do in that 

716
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,400
moment and then they're back and
they're playing decently on the 

717
00:37:24,408 --> 00:37:25,900
next drive. 
But by that point, they're down 

718
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:29,700
21 and the game's over. 
And what I'm a little concerned 

719
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:32,400
because I see those same 
Tendencies right now. 

720
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,000
And I think Indiana has gotten 
lucky frankly in the two games 

721
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,400
that they want against FBS 
teams, where it didn't come back

722
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,300
to bite them in this game, it 
did. 

723
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:42,600
And I guess I've just got some 
PTSD. 

724
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:46,000
ESD from previous Seasons where 
this has happened with IU. 

725
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,400
Because as you said last year we
saw these Trends in September 

726
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,500
and we were like, oh surely 
it'll get better. 

727
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:55,500
Or they'll fix this or that and 
it never actually got better. 

728
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,300
So yeah, it's a real concern 
right now. 

729
00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:02,000
One other Trend that I'm 
starting to clicking in as 

730
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,000
you're talking, you mentioned 
Taiwan Mullen, you know, two 

731
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,100
years ago. 
He has just a fantastic year. 

732
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:10,600
I remember last year, you know, 
we had the home-field shirt, you

733
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,900
know, it's like Taiwan 
All-American. 

734
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:13,400
That's what I wore to the Iowa 
game. 

735
00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:16,900
He was injured for the majority 
of last year but didn't look 

736
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:19,000
great and believe me, I 
understand safety. 

737
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,400
It sucks. 
Like there's that one player. 

738
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,700
He plays basically perfect 
coverage and the ball just drops

739
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:26,700
in like in the only spot that he
couldn't be. 

740
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,700
But I would say, he doesn't look
exactly what we were expecting a

741
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:34,300
All-American safety to look like
at most of the points of this 

742
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:35,900
year. 
And that's another weird thing 

743
00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:37,600
that's happening. 
Again, this kind of like, I 

744
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,300
don't I don't know where to put 
my footing because it feels like

745
00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:42,600
there's quicksand everywhere 
you're starting to get it. 

746
00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:47,500
A history of guys, who we part 
of the reason. 

747
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,700
We thought we were going to be 
good last year. 

748
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:53,200
Is that we expected guys, were 
going to have growth or at least

749
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,900
stay where they're at? 
So it's like, well, we knew tie.

750
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:58,300
Fry Fogle is here, right? 
And if he goes up here, he could

751
00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:00,900
be an All-American. 
But, you know, we feel like we 

752
00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:04,300
understood what the floor was of
these guys and it's like, oh no,

753
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,300
fry Fogle is going to have a 
huge step back. 

754
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:09,000
It's like Taiwan Mullen is here.
It's like, well, he's not quite 

755
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,000
here anymore. 
He's going back. 

756
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,200
You look at Stevie Scott. 
I'm not saying he was ever going

757
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,000
to be an all Eric and like his 
first year he averaged four 

758
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,700
point nine yards. 
A carry 1,100, 1,100 37, yards 

759
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:22,300
of 2018. 
He went down to eight forty-five

760
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:26,000
yards in 2019 and 2020. 
He had 561 yards, he had 

761
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,500
different carries, get a team 
going to more past, but it's 

762
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:29,800
like you're starting to see 
this. 

763
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:34,300
Even the guys that are good, we 
can't confirm that the next 

764
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:35,800
year, they're going to come back
and be like. 

765
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,700
Now, this guy's going to be at 
least have a floor and get 

766
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:40,400
better. 
And I think that's also 

767
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,800
concerning to. 
This is a fangs. 

768
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,200
I don't know what to do. 
Like what do you expect? 

769
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,700
If everyone's like if it's just 
going to be your good for one 

770
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:48,500
year and the next year, it's 
like we're all just at just 

771
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:51,400
sketching the entire team and 
it's like you're not good 

772
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,500
anymore. 
I don't know. 

773
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:55,300
And that's, that's a problem of 
program building where you've 

774
00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:57,800
got to have that floor of guys 
where it's like Arduino fry 

775
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,300
fogle's good for 10 touchdowns. 
Now we're getting another wide 

776
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:02,400
receiver up there, you can't be 
playing whack-a-mole with this 

777
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,700
stuff. 
It's very, it is very odd, I 

778
00:40:03,707 --> 00:40:08,800
agree. 
I mean the and it's I don't I 

779
00:40:08,808 --> 00:40:11,800
don't have a really good answer 
for it and that's it's one of 

780
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,700
those things where when you look
at the Player Development I mean

781
00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:18,700
this is this what made last year
so confounding was that you had 

782
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:21,600
all this experience you know, 
guys that have been through the 

783
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:27,800
wars and it didn't work at all 
last year and it's not really 

784
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,800
working much this year and you 
do see guys kind of taking steps

785
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,100
back and it's just kind of 
surprising, you know, it wasn't 

786
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:37,000
that Stevie Scott, you know, was
a bad back. 

787
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:39,900
I mean guy like, you know, got 
on an NFL roster for a bit in 

788
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:44,100
the preseason but it is you have
to say looking at the numbers 

789
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,500
that he just kind of dab. 
No. 

790
00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:47,400
Absolute least every year. 
Absolutely. 

791
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,000
And I don't know what the answer
to that is. 

792
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,800
It's very odd. 
So look I think take a step up. 

793
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:56,300
Yeah. 
As we look at like just this is 

794
00:40:56,300 --> 00:41:00,800
a massively important stretch 
their going into like you have 

795
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,000
at Nebraska home to Michigan 
home to Maryland at Rutgers. 

796
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:11,100
See your point if you want to 
get A bold and if you want to be

797
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:13,600
in a spot where you know, so you
got to get to five wins playing 

798
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,000
Purdue and Purdue is doing what 
they normally do, which is like,

799
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,800
they look tough for a second 
then they aren't. 

800
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,500
So I'm not. 
I admit, I gotta say, I 

801
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:24,000
admittedly fell asleep during 
that game last night and I feel 

802
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,100
like I missed a lot. 
It looked like pretty was on the

803
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:30,200
ropes there a little bit. 
I think they were I didn't watch

804
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,600
much of s all the scores. 
Yeah but so I'm not confident 

805
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,400
with the team. 
We're going to put on the field 

806
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,800
but my confidence. 
Team produce going to have 

807
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,200
butts, like, you got to get to 
five wins to get there so you 

808
00:41:40,207 --> 00:41:42,700
need two more. 
You know. 

809
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:45,700
It's like you almost. 
You got to get those two in this

810
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:48,700
this next stretch of four games 
that I talked about. 

811
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Yeah, that cuz I mean, Michigan,
it's like, again, the schedule 

812
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,600
gods do us no favors. 
Like, I wish we could play 

813
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,200
Michigan State sometime in the 
next couple weeks like playing 

814
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,900
them after Ohio State. 
I watched Ohio state looks 

815
00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:03,500
phenomenal. 
Like I'm not sure what team were

816
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:06,300
going to have healthy after that
autistic. 

817
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,100
There's a part. 
We maybe should just send like 

818
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:12,500
our JV team or just be like, 
look what score do you guys 

819
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,000
want? 
Like, are we cool thing? 

820
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,700
Fifty six to nothing? 
Or fifty six to three, let's 

821
00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:19,000
just call it that will place 
them, you know, Checkers out 

822
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,400
here. 
Maybe we'll do like a Connect 4 

823
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Tournament and then we can just 
go on our our way. 

824
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,200
You don't want to get hurt, we 
don't get hurt. 

825
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,600
Was going to go to East Lansing 
and see you guys next week but 

826
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,100
it's like I don't. 
So you really got to get to in 

827
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,600
the next four and I'm I'm, I'm 
very nervous. 

828
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,800
This team can kind of pull it 
together, especially at 

829
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,400
Nebraska, I think he's placed 
by. 

830
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,600
I think the frustrating thing is
They've clearly got the talent 

831
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,400
that they could beat any of 
those two even Michigan. 

832
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,100
I mean, I was actually surprised
at how pedestrian Michigan, 

833
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:48,900
looked at home against Maryland,
you know, it's and as much as 

834
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,200
We've joked about that game, 
being one of the, like, the two 

835
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,200
or three games that just feel 
like they're off the table for 

836
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,500
this IU team. 
I mean, what I saw from Michigan

837
00:42:57,500 --> 00:43:00,000
and that game yesterday, I was 
like, if you put together a good

838
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,300
60-minute game, you could beat 
that Michigan team. 

839
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:06,100
If you're Indiana, if you put 
together a good 60 panel, Doug 

840
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:08,700
stuff that we're not doing. 
Well, hold on, you know, if you 

841
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:11,100
put together a good 60-minute 
game, you could beat Nebraska, 

842
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,400
you could definitely beat 
Maryland. 

843
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,100
You could be truckers. 
But the problem is, when was the

844
00:43:14,107 --> 00:43:17,300
last time we saw in Indiana, 
play a 60-minute game, when was 

845
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:19,400
it? 
I mean, even the wind's they had

846
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,700
last year, I don't think you 
could classify maybe Idaho last 

847
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:25,200
year. 
You can't even say that they 

848
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,300
play the 60-minute game against 
Idaho this year. 

849
00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:31,900
And so what's frustrating is? 
We sit here three and one point 

850
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:33,800
and do it last screw into the 
year. 

851
00:43:33,808 --> 00:43:36,300
Yeah. 
You know, and and you look at it

852
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:41,500
and you say to yourself, Self. 
When Indiana has been able to 

853
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:46,200
put together full performances 
front to back, they are able to 

854
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,300
compete with probably anybody 
except Ohio State in the Big Ten

855
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,500
because the rest of the Big Ten,
I don't think is that good. 

856
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:54,100
Actual. 
Maybe Minnesota, is the other 

857
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:56,900
good team and Indiana doesn't 
have to play them unless they 

858
00:43:56,900 --> 00:44:00,500
end up in the Big Ten 
championship game unlikely. 

859
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,400
Not worried about that. 
I'm not really worried about 

860
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,200
that. 
But but, but nothing I've seen 

861
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,600
through the first four games, 
this year tells me that Indiana 

862
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:14,700
is going to How find religion in
the next 6 days and go in and 

863
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:16,900
Nebraska and play a 60-minute 
game. 

864
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:20,500
That just doesn't seem like it's
within the reach of this group 

865
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:25,100
of relatively talented for 
Indiana, football players, you 

866
00:44:25,107 --> 00:44:27,100
know? 
And then you look down the the 

867
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:30,900
rest of the schedule and you 
know, the Rutgers game looks 

868
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:34,200
more winnable but when was the 
last time Indiana played a 

869
00:44:34,207 --> 00:44:37,800
60-minute game at Rutgers? 
I mean it's it is a it is a 

870
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,800
concern. 
That I don't think it's going 

871
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,800
away anytime soon and so I do 
get frustrated because I think 

872
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,700
Alan deserves credit for having 
recruited a higher caliber of 

873
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:51,100
player and I think that he did a
good job in the portal. 

874
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,200
I like Connor basil, lack on the
whole. 

875
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,600
I wish I could see him in a full
game where he had a bunch of 

876
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,300
time to throw because he seems 
to be able to get the ball where

877
00:44:59,300 --> 00:45:01,700
he wants to get it to when he 
has time to throw. 

878
00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:04,900
He had that one really bad pass 
early on in the game. 

879
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:10,100
And really after that when he 
was not under I thought he made 

880
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:13,500
a lot of really good throws. 
He found his receivers for the 

881
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:14,800
most part. 
I like to see him get DJ 

882
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,500
Matthews involved a bit more but
can camper you know, that's 

883
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:20,200
another player. 
I think you take your hat off to

884
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,300
Tom Allen for pulling in. 
And there's a quilt the trouble 

885
00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:25,800
with bass lack is that he 
doesn't throw great. 

886
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,900
When he's under pressure on the 
run and unfortunately it's like 

887
00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:32,200
60% of his throws are going to 
be coming that way especially 

888
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,000
moving forward. 
Well that's well I mean you 

889
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,800
can't have it all you know but 
and it's it goes back to the 

890
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:38,900
bank. 
It goes back to the Michael 

891
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:41,400
Annex conversation. 
We had last week where it's like

892
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:44,700
panics looks like a new man. 
Panics is no throwing the ball 

893
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:51,000
everywhere and is performing at 
a level that reminds a bunch of 

894
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,200
people of what he looked like at
his best here at IU and he's 

895
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,900
doing it behind a line that's 
giving him time to throw, you 

896
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:01,600
know, that is that is, you know,
kept him from having to deal 

897
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,200
with a lot of duress. 
He was 22 or 37 for 309 yards 

898
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:12,100
and two touchdowns yesterday, 
you know, you just It's hard to 

899
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:16,400
watch a talented group of 
players, lose games, because 

900
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,700
there are like, systematic 
failures, in certain aspects of 

901
00:46:19,707 --> 00:46:22,700
the team that we've seen 
consistently over the course of 

902
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:26,200
the time and where they have 
these, these kind of brain fade 

903
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,100
moments. 
And as you said, where you don't

904
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:31,100
have players like living up to 
the Legacy, they've already 

905
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:33,700
created for themselves and 
actually taking steps back the 

906
00:46:33,700 --> 00:46:35,500
further into their careers, 
their growing, which is not 

907
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:37,500
happening with everybody. 
But it's happening with just 

908
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:42,100
enough of the wrong people. 
All that, it creates a problem 

909
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:43,600
that Indiana is not able to 
overcome. 

910
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,000
So, look at this point, this 
Indiana team could win three or 

911
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:52,500
four more games, they could win 
0, more games, but I think the 

912
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:55,800
big take home point for me in 
this game is just that I was 

913
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,800
hoping that Indiana would have 
learned some lessons, not just 

914
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,800
through the first four games or 
three games of the year. 

915
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,600
But also out of last year about 
the need to be more detail 

916
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:11,100
oriented about the need to not 
have a A such an inconsistent 

917
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:14,800
approach to playing games, to 
try to figure out a way to be a 

918
00:47:14,808 --> 00:47:17,700
60-minute team, and it just 
doesn't feel like they've gotten

919
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:20,800
anywhere close to that. 
And in a year, where the Big Ten

920
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,600
is you starting to scratch your 
head and be like, I love this 

921
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,700
conference, is that good, it's 
starting to feel like, you know,

922
00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:30,000
a good opportunity for Indiana, 
but it's hard to have faith. 

923
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,100
That they will actually be able 
to take advantage of that 

924
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:34,900
opportunity based upon 
literally, all of the evidence 

925
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:37,200
that we've seen. 
So we do have a question. 

926
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,800
I want to get to this is from 
Scott from Crimson cast. 

927
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:44,000
It's just just for fun because 
we're at a point in the season 

928
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,100
where, you know, this is not 
for, it's not a fun question but

929
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:48,100
it's a point where we can play a
little hypothetical. 

930
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,000
You know, as we've mentioned 
before, I'm taking, you know, 

931
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:57,600
Alan is not going to be he he's 
going to be the coach after this

932
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,100
season. 
Yes, on contract pieces. 

933
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:00,700
So I don't want to get into a 
fire discussion. 

934
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:04,400
I'm just curious to ask you. 
I, I will say, I don't think 

935
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,300
this is going to happen. 
I'm not Sure why it's not. 

936
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:10,000
I don't see us losing out. 
I agree with you. 

937
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,200
I think the Big Ten is softer. 
I'm not sure where we're going 

938
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,500
to win. 
I'm not sure where I would say, 

939
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:18,000
like, that's a game I think we 
could win, but it feels like 

940
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,400
this will be like all other 
Seasons. 

941
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,400
It will find a way to win one 
here or there. 

942
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,300
That said, based on all the 
metrics, everything we talked 

943
00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:26,300
about. 
There's and we did it last year.

944
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,000
There's a path, we're starting 
October. 

945
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,500
We lose out, right? 
If I'm just curious to play that

946
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:32,800
right now. 
If that happens again, let's 

947
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,600
just say, we lose out again. 
This year. 

948
00:48:34,900 --> 00:48:36,900
We finished the year. 
Three in 10, we won one more 

949
00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:40,700
game, but again you had a year 
where you just lose out, what do

950
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:42,700
you, what do you think is going 
to happen? 

951
00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:44,600
Nothing. 
Besides people being 

952
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,100
unbelievably checked out. 
We think it's just nothing's 

953
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:49,000
gonna happen. 
Nothing's going to happen. 

954
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,800
I mean if they lose out they 
lose out and and we'll run it 

955
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,800
back laughs. 
I mean, I'm not being flippant, 

956
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,500
I just look. 
I know they're nothing's 

957
00:48:56,500 --> 00:49:01,000
changing with this program for 
another few years and this is 

958
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,400
where you, you have to. 
Just hope that The coaching 

959
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,300
staff. 
Is able to make incremental 

960
00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:13,100
improvements in the way that 
Indiana plays on a week-by-week 

961
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:17,900
basis and are able to build off 
of that because I don't I really

962
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:20,100
honestly don't think any changes
occur. 

963
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:22,000
I also think like you said, I 
think they're going to win at 

964
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,400
least one game in conference. 
Like it would be it would be 

965
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,500
shocking if they went one and 
eight at this point in the Big 

966
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:32,800
Ten, you know, I think two and 
seven or three and six feel 

967
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,700
more. 
Like the types of records that 

968
00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:37,900
we would expect this team to 
have, which Yeah. 

969
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,100
Is you know, it's an improvement
over last year and I guess that,

970
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:44,400
that's what you have to have. 
You have to hang your hat on, 

971
00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:46,200
you know. 
But it's frustrating to me 

972
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,400
because I think that the way 
that this team is constructed 

973
00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:54,300
and you look at the way the rest
of the big tennis playing right 

974
00:49:54,300 --> 00:49:59,200
now, they should be better now. 
And, you know, I think it's 

975
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,800
perfectly reasonable to say, you
know. 

976
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,000
Yes, they've won, but they 
needed to play better in those 

977
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,100
victories. 
They shouldn't be having to go 

978
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:10,400
to overtime. 
To beat a Sun Belt team at home.

979
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:14,200
I mean they did that just that 
shouldn't be in the cards. 

980
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,000
Indiana should have had the 
floor raised at least enough 

981
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:19,400
that that's considered a 
disappointment and then to go 

982
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,800
onto the road and and you know 
show that you can compete in 

983
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,300
spots but end up being undone by
just a bunch of careless 

984
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:30,100
mistakes on both sides of the 
ball. 

985
00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:34,400
That's not acceptable either. 
But I just don't, I don't see. 

986
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,900
Either from a financial 
perspective or an Institutional 

987
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:42,200
perspective, anything being 
likely to change regardless of 

988
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,800
what happens the rest of this 
year because you can always 

989
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,900
point to. 
Well they won a Big Ten game 

990
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,600
already and they didn't do that 
at all last year and they've won

991
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,800
one more game already then they 
want all of last year. 

992
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,300
So that's an improvement, you 
know? 

993
00:50:56,300 --> 00:50:58,300
So look, I don't know. 
I'm sure others. 

994
00:50:58,300 --> 00:50:59,900
They'll be some people who would
be like, why are you guys even 

995
00:50:59,900 --> 00:51:01,400
having this conversation? 
And they'll be others. 

996
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,100
Who are like, how can you not 
say gosh we have to have a 

997
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,200
change. 
I'm just being realistic is not 

998
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,000
what I want or don't want. 
This is where Indiana is, this 

999
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,800
is, this is who they are. 
They've for For Better, or For 

1000
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:18,300
Worse, they have locked in with 
Tom, Allen is his program and 

1001
00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:20,900
he's the guy in charge and he's 
not going anywhere for a while 

1002
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,400
and there's really not a whole 
lot else to say about it at this

1003
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,200
point. 
No, you're you're right, 

1004
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,900
because, yeah, I don't want to 
I'm not trying to go down the 

1005
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:35,900
road of we'd change out. 
Like I'm not, I'm just But we 

1006
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:38,800
are staring at at there's none 
of the metric show. 

1007
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,600
This is going to end well, this 
season. 

1008
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,200
It is, is there? 
But you're right. 

1009
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,000
Like the contract situation is 
such that. 

1010
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,700
Tom Allen is going to be the 
coach next year, but you also 

1011
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:51,200
you made the moves you had to 
make but you're also kind of 

1012
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,300
boxed in where it's like there 
are no other moves. 

1013
00:51:53,300 --> 00:51:55,700
You can make you, you change 
both your coordinator so you 

1014
00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:58,000
can't. 
After one year fire your 

1015
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,900
offensive or defensive 
coordinator without looking 

1016
00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:01,800
completely insane. 
So you can't do that and it's 

1017
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,700
like that's that's about all you
can do. 

1018
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,700
Like those are really. 
The maybe you can make some 

1019
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:07,900
smaller low-level coordinator 
changes. 

1020
00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:09,600
Like I don't know. 
Offensive line could be done. 

1021
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,500
Like maybe you do that but I 
don't think that's going to 

1022
00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:15,400
solve everything. 
Yeah, it's I think you're right.

1023
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,400
It's this is where it sucks. 
It's tough to be in marketing 

1024
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,500
because like, hey, last few 
years with two and ten, three 

1025
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:25,200
and nine lost out since October.
Can you please get more people 

1026
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,700
in the stadium? 
Well, if you please, yeah, 

1027
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,300
programmed it to get people 
fired up against like, this is I

1028
00:52:31,300 --> 00:52:34,600
mean and for those for those who
have not been fans for a while, 

1029
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:38,000
And are doing the, you know, 
hey, you got it, you got to show

1030
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,000
up and you gotta support this 
team. 

1031
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,900
It's like live through these 
next two years with us and then 

1032
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:46,700
you can you engage a human being
and Galen can, all reminisce 

1033
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:48,900
about how I'm tired of being 
told, as a fan, how I should 

1034
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:51,100
react to this team after years 
of this. 

1035
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,200
Well, that's then. 
Look, ultimately what? 

1036
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,200
You just described the two and 
it would have been to a 93 and 

1037
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,900
ate like that's a lot of IU 
football history where it's 

1038
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:01,600
like, well, it'll be, we'll get 
em next year. 

1039
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,700
It was data that very Chicago 
Cubs ish meant Tality pre 2016. 

1040
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,700
Where, you know, you have a, you
have a group of fans who are 

1041
00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:12,000
just going to root for the team,
no matter what. 

1042
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,100
And, you know, good for them and
look, rooting for the team and 

1043
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,100
and refusing to point out any 
flaws, I think are two 

1044
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:23,300
completely different things. 
I just I get frustrated because 

1045
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:27,000
I think there were definitely 
years where I, you clearly had 

1046
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,100
the least amount of talent the 
conference, and clearly was just

1047
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:32,200
not pulling in Tammy. 
That was the big frustration of 

1048
00:53:32,207 --> 00:53:35,900
the building share. 
It was that those teams Or were 

1049
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,400
whatever the opposite of chalk 
full is, you know, the cupboard 

1050
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,600
was Barren in terms of depth and
Talent on a lot of those 

1051
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,200
rosters. 
That's not the case here. 

1052
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,800
Like Alan, you just look at the 
numbers has done a pretty good 

1053
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,100
job overall in bringing in 
players and even in the transfer

1054
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:56,900
portal I think he's done a good 
job of bringing in players but 

1055
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,000
the same types of mistakes 
happen over and over again, with

1056
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:07,700
this team, you know, I mean, you
had a Big play erased by a dumb 

1057
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,900
personal foul. 
And you know, you had a you had 

1058
00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:16,000
a fair catch on a punt at the 
with the for the are three yard 

1059
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,000
line and you know, in both cases
the camera flashes over and 

1060
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,000
Alan's yelling at the player and
I'm like get look into a mirror 

1061
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:25,000
like this is like you can blame 
those individual players but 

1062
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,200
this has happened every single 
year that Tom Alan's been the 

1063
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,900
head coach and it just it 
becomes clearer. 

1064
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,000
I think if you watch this team 
in-depth enough That they they 

1065
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,100
really struggle with 
fundamentals and and again it's 

1066
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:41,600
not solely a Tom Allen thing. 
This is stuff that stretches 

1067
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,400
back through, Kevin Wilson it 
stretch back through, Lynn 

1068
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:49,400
should stretch back through 
Hefner this its kind of the unit

1069
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,500
in our do but do not ye well I 
yeah, he who shall not be named 

1070
00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:57,000
but you know, it's been a 
long-standing issue with OU 

1071
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,000
football period And it but it's 
more frustrating now because 

1072
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:04,500
before you assumed that the 
mistakes were due to a lack of 

1073
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,300
Talent or lack of ability. 
And there were ample your you 

1074
00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:10,600
could look at the recruiting 
ratings and say, yeah, clearly 

1075
00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:13,100
they're not getting the caliber 
of play, they've got good 

1076
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:16,300
caliber players now at a bunch 
of positions and they're still 

1077
00:55:16,300 --> 00:55:18,500
making very, very basic 
mistakes. 

1078
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:23,000
And it's the problem is, you 
know, most most Big Ten teams 

1079
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:26,300
aren't actually able to just 
live off their talent. 

1080
00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:29,400
Ohio state is, and Ohio State 
actually, is also a really 

1081
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,300
well-coached team, but you look 
at most of the other programs 

1082
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,100
and they survived Of off of 
being better in the 

1083
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:39,600
fundamentals. 
This is Iowa system, it's 

1084
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,300
Wisconsin system. 
Its Northwestern system. 

1085
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,600
It's Penn State system. 
Like they get all the little 

1086
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,100
things, right? 
And you know, most of the time 

1087
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:50,600
they lose when they play Ohio 
State or when they play like a 

1088
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,100
really, really good team, but 
that's what they're based upon 

1089
00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:57,200
an Indiana under Allen. 
As we've said many times before 

1090
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,500
is really based on emotion, 
they're based on Vibes. 

1091
00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:04,500
They're not based on details and
it rears its ugly head. 

1092
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,700
That lack of attention to detail
at the worst times. 

1093
00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:10,100
And it doesn't mean that they're
the most penalized team, but it 

1094
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:13,500
means that in situations where 
they get bad penalties, it's 

1095
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:15,700
almost always in the worst 
possible situation. 

1096
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,400
It doesn't mean that they're a 
terrible defensive team because 

1097
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,600
they're not, but they make 
boneheaded lapses in Judgment at

1098
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,000
the worst possible times, which 
that's how you end up with 45 

1099
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,600
points scored against you. 
So that's the kind of thing that

1100
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:32,400
I was hoping to see some change 
on. 

1101
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:36,600
And it's also, where are you? 
They could turn around and win 

1102
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,800
two of their next three or three
of the next four and I wouldn't 

1103
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,300
be shocked if they were actually
able to put it all together. 

1104
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:45,600
I just I need to see it first 
and I hope that I do. 

1105
00:56:45,700 --> 00:56:49,000
I really, really hope that I do 
on the positive side and you 

1106
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,300
mentioned this on Twitter it was
very funny at the time but it's 

1107
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:54,300
true. 
It was really nice to have an 

1108
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:58,200
end of game situation. 
We're having all your timeouts 

1109
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,500
came into play, you're able to 
actually use them effectively 

1110
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:03,700
like that was that was fun. 
So I'd love to see us grow on 

1111
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:06,400
that and continue. 
You to not blow art like 

1112
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,000
actually use our time outs as as
they could be used effectively 

1113
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,300
at the end of game. 
That was fun. 

1114
00:57:11,300 --> 00:57:13,500
Yeah, they're what I mean. 
Oh and I was you know it was 

1115
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:17,200
nice it was better in that area.
That's great. 

1116
00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:20,800
And let's just see that every 
game now you know because look I

1117
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:25,500
Indiana like God if they don't 
have that fumble at the end you 

1118
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:26,900
know. 
They're they're within seven 

1119
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:31,100
points at that one juncture. 
You know it's 3124 instead of 

1120
00:57:31,107 --> 00:57:36,100
3824 and you know, maybe the 
Nothing changes and the whole 

1121
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:39,200
second half had been managed 
properly up to that point and 

1122
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,000
then it just kind of fell apart.
And again it's like there's a 

1123
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,700
flash of something that looks 
positive and then it's 

1124
00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:49,700
overwhelmed by bad things so 
yeah, that's I don't know. 

1125
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:57,300
Anyway, anything else podcast 
titled the the something good 

1126
00:57:57,300 --> 00:58:00,200
over a flash of positive 
overwhelmed by a bunch of bad 

1127
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,200
things. 
Yeah, it is winning for good, 

1128
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,200
you know, this is I know, you'll
do it. 

1129
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,600
We'll do a Nebraska preview at 
some point, but it's like this 

1130
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:13,300
is a, this is not an unwinnable 
game, Nebraska is not an easy 

1131
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:16,100
place to play, but this is also 
not Peak Nebraska. 

1132
00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:19,800
They are dealing with their own 
issues, you know? 

1133
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:25,000
So this is again, this is not a 
road too far and for a team that

1134
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,400
you know, just what 13, 14 
months ago, we were being told 

1135
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,300
like that, you know, the new 
Norm is eight, nine wins. 

1136
00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:36,000
This is a team that Should be 
able to go in and beat a 

1137
00:58:36,008 --> 00:58:38,600
struggling Nebraska team, even 
if it's on the road. 

1138
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,500
So, you know this, I'm very 
curious to see how this goes. 

1139
00:58:42,500 --> 00:58:45,000
I'm going to be very upset if 
again, we look like we're just 

1140
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,700
completely outclassed for a good
portion of the game by Nebraska.

1141
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,700
I mean Indiana went in three 
years ago and pulled off a win 

1142
00:58:54,300 --> 00:58:58,400
in Memorial Stadium, the other 
Memorial Stadium and so it can 

1143
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,600
be done and certainly Nebraska 
looks like they're in worse 

1144
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,600
shape now than they were. 
Then the Difference is Indiana, 

1145
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,200
had Kalin Deboer and Michael 
well then I'm like appendix - 

1146
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,500
they had pain Ramsey. 
You know, they had a system that

1147
00:59:11,500 --> 00:59:15,800
worked on offense and they had a
defense that was I think playing

1148
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:20,500
a lot better on average than 
what we're seeing right now and 

1149
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:25,500
that is unfortunately, I think 
for Indiana, like none of those 

1150
00:59:25,700 --> 00:59:28,200
factors are in play at this 
point. 

1151
00:59:28,300 --> 00:59:33,600
And, you know, so I do worry how
Indiana ends up going into that 

1152
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,800
game and what they do? 
And I think it's worth pointing 

1153
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,500
out that Nebraska lost that game
to Indiana, but Nebraska played 

1154
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:42,900
pretty well. 
That was a close game like 

1155
00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:46,700
Nebraska was, I mean it was 
really in doubt that Indiana was

1156
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:49,700
going to win that game until the
final drive and it was really 

1157
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:52,200
exciting when Indiana pulled 
that game out but it wasn't one 

1158
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:57,200
of those situations like where 
Nebraska just you know wet the 

1159
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,900
bed from beginning to end. 
Indiana really had to play smart

1160
01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:02,100
football. 
They had to play a full 

1161
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:04,400
60-minute game in order to pull 
that one out. 

1162
01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:06,500
Out. 
And that's why I guess I'm so 

1163
01:00:06,500 --> 01:00:09,900
concerned about it is that yes, 
Nebraska is struggling Nebraska 

1164
01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:12,200
overall. 
I think I would, I would say 

1165
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:19,100
this despite being one in three,
has generally looked pretty good

1166
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:22,000
in those games they've lost 
tight ones, they'd obviously got

1167
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:27,000
blown out by Oklahoma. 
But my, you know, my concern is 

1168
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,000
that they're they're actually 
playing better than their record

1169
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,400
indicates and Indiana's played 
worse than their record 

1170
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,300
indicates. 
So it's going to be really 

1171
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:35,800
fascinating, really? 
Task for Tom Allen and his 

1172
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,300
coaching staff to have to get 
this team back up off the mat. 

1173
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:43,300
This game, get them back on the 
road and get their mindset right

1174
01:00:43,300 --> 01:00:47,300
to take on a Nebraska team, that
desperately needs the victory at

1175
01:00:47,300 --> 01:00:49,100
this point. 
So, we'll see what happens. 

1176
01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:53,600
Anyway, we will preview that 
later on in the week and we will

1177
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,800
also have of course, Crimson 
cash coming up in the middle of 

1178
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,000
the week. 
So be sure to freak this week. 

1179
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,900
We're cruising cash. 
It was not a not a good week, 

1180
01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:03,700
Michigan State didn't help but I
wouldn't help rough week. 

1181
01:01:03,700 --> 01:01:05,900
Yeah, there was a it Was rough 
all the way around. 

1182
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:10,600
This is why wagering is bad. 
As you know, we are want to 

1183
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:14,500
remind everybody on but you know
I guess it's a fun thing but 

1184
01:01:14,500 --> 01:01:17,500
anyway it's fun. 
I bet 10 bucks here and there 

1185
01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:19,900
and my God on I think you do it 
for fun. 

1186
01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:21,400
It's okay. 
But yes it's there. 

1187
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,500
Helping swear you. 
You think you fly too kind of 

1188
01:01:23,508 --> 01:01:25,100
the sun like three weeks in a 
row. 

1189
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:27,600
We're doing great. 
It's like oh this is why as the 

1190
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,600
old joke is why the hotels are 
big in Vegas. 

1191
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,100
That's right. 
Nothing nothing will make you 

1192
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:34,400
feel less adequate about your 
analytical skills then trying. 

1193
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:37,400
Figure out what side of a line 
to bet odd because you're almost

1194
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,300
always you to get it wrong. 
Anyway, Scott always a pleasure 

1195
01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:41,900
and thanks to all you folks for 
listening in. 

1196
01:01:41,900 --> 01:01:45,500
Sorry, it wasn't more 
optimistic, but hey, there's 

1197
01:01:45,500 --> 01:01:48,500
plenty of season left to go. 
Maybe Indiana figures it out as 

1198
01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:50,500
they move forward. 
Anyway, we'll be back later on 

1199
01:01:50,500 --> 01:01:54,600
in the week with more for Scott.
I'm Galen, this is Crimson cast.

1200
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,100
We will catch you folks on the 
flip side, bring back the Bison.

1201
01:01:58,100 --> 01:01:58,800
So long, everybody.