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Welcome to the weekly pet 
roundup. 

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I hope you had a great weekend. 
For those of you who. 

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Don't know who we are? 
I'm Isabel and that's Jessica. 

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And we do this every week, 
almost every week. 

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And today our topic of choice is
pet supplements. 

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Oh, such a big topic. 
Such a big topic, but so 

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important because I feel like so
many of us get sucked into 

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marketing with supplements. 
Hi, Kara. 

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Hi. 
Rob High Adventures Kara, how 

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are you? 
Thanks for joining us. 

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Please comment when you have 
anything to share 'cause you are

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also an expert in pet nutrition 
and I'm sure you have many 

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thoughts. 
On supplements, yes, and let us 

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know. 
On Insta Isabel, you sound very 

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tiny and far away. 
I can fix that. 

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Good. 
Well, you do. 

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OK, I was going to say you were 
trying a new. 

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I'm trying new. 
Advance and they are obviously a

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no go. 
Well, supplements. 

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So there's some really, really 
good ones out there. 

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There's some really, really bad 
ones out there. 

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There's a lot of ones out there.
And I think there, there are a 

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handful of things that I'm like,
OK, I really want you guys to 

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take these things away. 
If you take nothing else away, 

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One of them being just because a
supplement is amazing doesn't 

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mean your animal needs it. 
Another is that OK? 

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Another is that you can have the
best supplements in the world 

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and they can do a really good 
job, but they can only do as 

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good a job as the food you're 
feeding, if that makes any 

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sense. 
If the diet isn't good or great,

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ideally the supplement can only 
do so much, and it's a really 

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good thing to rotate supplements
and audit your supplements. 

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I don't care if we're talking 
about pets or people, it's 

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always a good idea to rotate 
them out, to pulse them and to 

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audit them every once in a 
while. 

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I personally am in the middle of
auditing all of my supplements 

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right now. 
And you know, I have really, 

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really cut back on the 
supplements that I use for my 

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pets. 
I have a supplement graveyard 

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just like everybody else. 
And so it is so important that 

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we not get like we can get 
overwhelmed by the number of 

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supplements that are in our 
cabinets and we can also feel 

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defeated because we bought so 
much and we're not getting the 

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desired results. 
So that's kind of where I want 

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to start. 
Everything else is just gravy 

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after after those statements. 
But I know, like, you don't do a

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ton of supplements either, 
right, Isabel? 

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I try to spend my money on the 
food. 

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That's really where I want to 
spend my money is on the food. 

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And then there are specific 
supplements. 

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Can you hear me or no? 
So now I have an echo. 

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You have an echo. 
Yes, I don't hear it though, so 

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it must I mean and I can only 
hear on stream yard though, and 

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they're saying it's on 
Instagram. 

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I was just about to fix that. 
OK. 

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So this should be good. 
OK. 

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Like can you? 
Hear me? 

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Can you hear me OK, 'cause I 
never see what people are 

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commenting. 
I only see like the first two 

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comments and then I never see 
anything else. 

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That's crazy. 
Oh, she says. 

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It's fixed. 
OK, good. 

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Awesome. 
Well, I don't. 

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Should I repeat all of that or? 
No, No. 

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No, I think, I think you were 
good. 

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I think you were good. 
I think they probably heard you 

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twice, but. 
They said Yep. 

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But they were like, I heard it 
just fine, which is weird. 

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But yeah, I don't, I don't spend
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supplementation with a caveat. 
Very old dogs, very old pets. 

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That's where I will. 
I don't, I don't see anything. 

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What are they saying? 
Oh, I'm sorry. 

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OK. 
Isabel sounds great. 

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Diane says fixed. 
Millie's Raw Life says we heard 

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it. 
Raw Paw Adventure says now we 

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heard it. 
OK, great. 

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So yeah, senior, I do. 
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can agree. 
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and then also animals in a 
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supplement a little bit more. 
I still think, you know, pulsing

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and rotating is a good thing, 
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supplements. 
And then we can also get into 

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the like rabbit hole of sourcing
and ingredients and. 

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Well, I feel like that's not a 
rabbit hole. 

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I feel like that's supplements 
one O 1 because yes, because I 

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feel, and I may be wrong. 
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joins us is very educated, but 
when I, I, I interact a lot with

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like newbie pet parents or like 
less involved, less educated pet

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parents who are just busy and 
have so much going on that they 

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don't have the time to curate 
their own like pet specific, you

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know, curriculum every day, 
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So those pet parents are buying 
their supplements at like 

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Costco, you know what I mean? 
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Target even has supplements. 
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getting stuff. 
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this to my husband constantly 
because my husband is, has been 

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known to go to Costco and get 
supplements and I love Costco. 

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This is not anything against 
Costco, one of my favorite 

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stores and and one of the places
I spend most of my money. 

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This is just that their 
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at like Walgreens or CVS. 
And that is not to me, an 

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optimal supplement, right? 
Like, and so when you talk about

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supplementation, for me, it's 
like that's not the rabbit hole.

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The rabbit hole is I guess, you 
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herb or like a homeopathic 
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guess somehow falls under 
supplementation sometimes or CBD

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or I don't know what else, some 
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And you can think like the 
rabbit hole is that 1 mineral 

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can like address so many things,
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So like that to me is like, 
maybe we won't get into all 

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that, but think about what you 
buy online. 

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Maybe the you've recommended 
before the, the New Zealand 

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organ meets for human organ 
supplements for humans. 

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I mean, if you were to buy that 
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beef liver supplement 
supplements at at Costco, it's 

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not going to be the caliber that
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that. 
Remind me the name of it Carton 

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soil. 
Carton soil, Yeah, sometimes it 

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can be. 
A lot of times it won't be. 

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For for Costco specifically, the
pet supplementation is crap. 

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I've never seen anything of 
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There is like once in a while 
for the human stuff, a good 

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item. 
And if you're, you know, savvy 

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enough, you'll figure it out. 
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they had a really good one. 
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anymore, but like they had a 
good one that I actually like 

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did my research and it was like,
this one's a really good one And

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This is why. 
And it happened to be at Costco.

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But like they're selling the 
mainstream stuff there for 

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supplementation for dogs 
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joint. 
And I feel like there's a 

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better, there are better options
out there if you do have like an

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older dog or you have a dog with
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dysplasia or something like 
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supplement and like keep their 
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It's not going to fix it. 
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the quality of life, you know, 
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most pet parents are not buying 
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So even if they are spending 
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to see any kind of benefit from 
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These are the same pet parents 
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lot of money on nutrition 
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So the bulk of their pet budget 
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care, unfortunately. 
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So like what what you said is 
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which 100% I agree always. 
Then the supplement is on a, an 

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as needed basis. 
But like what supplement? 

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And like, that's where I, I 
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about like supplements, 'cause 
everybody when they have an old 

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dog's like, yeah, he takes 
glucosamine, right? 

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Yeah. 
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doing everything they can for 
this dog, giving them the 

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glucosamine that they found at 
Costco. 

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So OK, so many things that you 
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First of all, there is not a 
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at Costco that I would recommend
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Not for a single thing in the 
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Agreed, As much as I love you 
Costco, I'm gonna go for like 

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only the organic foods, the 
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And that is not for pets, that's
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And you can share it with your 
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You, yes, absolutely share that 
with your pets. 

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Here's the thing about big box 
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Club. 
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in are items where the brand is 
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humongous amounts of product, 
which by the way, it cannot be. 

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It can be the same product that 
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has to be altered a little bit. 
Where like it can be a 2 pack or

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you're getting a case of 16 and 
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Like it has to be altered in 
some way that it's not directly 

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comparable to anything else that
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brand. 
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a certain amount of time, not 
only do you are you are fitting 

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the bill, footing the bill for 
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that Costco or Sam's Club 
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for floor space and you are also
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location if it doesn't sell it. 
Like it has to be a company that

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can sustain this kind of 
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So no, you're not getting the 
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You're getting what yes, you're 
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since you brought up heart and 
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I promised somebody when I 
posted about this in stories, 

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they were asking specifically 
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reproductive supplement for 
spayed dogs. 

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That isn't standard process. 
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process supplements, but they, 
they're general. 

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They do often times have things 
in them that you're like, I 

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don't necessarily want to give 
that to my dog. 

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They're a combination of herbs 
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think is a bad thing. 
But again, when we when we buy 

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products that are made in bulk 
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herbal products that are, 
they're made for a very 

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generalized population. 
So you might not want to use 

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that for every individual 
animal. 

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So heart and soil is actually 
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like their beef organ 
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They have female reproductive 
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They also have male reproductive
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But that's what where I would go
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using standard process. 
So that answers that question. 

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Diane also says, I read in 
humans the body does not 

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recognize supplements, so they 
could actually be damaging us. 

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So that's another thing that and
you brought up a fact like what 

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you're getting in Costco is what
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CVS or something like that. 
I generally speaking, do not 

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recommend synthetic supplements 
because the body doesn't always 

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know what to do with them. 
They are when, when we, there 

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are a few exceptions, I will 
say, but generally speaking, 

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when we pull one thing out of 
nature and say, you know, run it

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through a lab, the, the lab 
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over and over again. 
We're giving, we're putting that

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in the body. 
It's considered synthetic 

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because it's created in the lab.
It's created in a vacuum 

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basically like where there is no
consideration for cofactors or 

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Co nutrients or what else is 
going on in the body. 

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So yes, very often that and 
that's one of the complaints 

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about a lot of like 
multivitamins and things like 

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that is that you're just paying 
all of this money to pee it out,

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right? 
Because the body doesn't know 

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what to do with that. 
Or not. 

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Yeah, Yeah, it can, It can 
something, some things can build

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up in the body. 
And so you, you especially if 

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we're, if we're talking about 
like fat soluble vitamins, they 

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can build up in the body if the 
body is, is processing them 

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properly. 
Again, the whole idea of 

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synthetic, I am not a huge fan 
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diet itself. 
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the highest quality nutrition 
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coming from, Whole Foods, then 
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animals are actually going to 
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food in whole food form. 
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we supplement to prevent or just
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Yes. 
And yes. 

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And then of course, I have to 
say this, Diane says, Jessica, I

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love your hair. 
Thank you so much. 

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So yeah, when we're looking at 
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That's the first thing you have 

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to nail down. 
What is the result that you're 

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looking for when going out and 
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what's the best way for me to 
get this result? 

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And maybe that's food and maybe 
that's a supplement. 

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Sometimes we use supplement, we 
use food as supplements and 

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that's amazing. 
Also, you brought up herbs and 

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homeopathy. 
I think again, herbs are food as

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energetics. 
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generally used more for, you can
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a lot more people use it for 
acute illnesses. 

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maybe use it for everything 
chronic and acute and all of it.

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The average person would use it 
for like acute issues. 

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I think. 
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result to be, find the best way 
to get there. 

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And then once you narrow down, 
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maybe only a few supplements 
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you're trying to compare them. 
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is look at the ingredients and 
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inactive ingredients because 
you're paying a whole heck of a 

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lot of money for something that 
what they're just going to, it's

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just going to come right back 
out the back end of your animal 

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when you're looking at an 
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So if there's a lot of junk 
starches and cellulose, Oh my 

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gosh, I hate cellulose and 
you're paying for that. 

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or very minimal inactive 
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your selection down even more. 
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mean, I personally, I'm going to
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look at the company and I'm 
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that company. 
Is it if it's if it's a company 

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that is maybe actually owned by 
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Mills or something like that, 
then maybe I yeah, maybe I 

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actually don't want to use that 
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That's me. 
That doesn't have to be you, but

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that's me. 
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it down based on the things that
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dog. 
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putting in your animal is active
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that you want. 
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going to be food based. 
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actually feeding our dog that 
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picky or we have or they won't. 
Eat it. 

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Or they're just appetites down. 
If they're sick, it's harder to 

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get in. 
Yeah, or they're a child like 

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mine. 
You know where my mom's always 

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like, why do you give them so 
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I'm like, because I know they're
not getting it from their food. 

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You know what I mean? 
Like they have lunch at school. 

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We never, never gonna talk bad 
about like the food they get, 

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which is great that they get 
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much they're eating. 
I don't know what the menu was 

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that day. 
I'm not the parent that's 

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checking the menu every day and 
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shoulder and making sure they 
ate the the the vegetable that 

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was on that plate. 
They might have just eaten the 

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quesadilla, right. 
So it's hard for me to kind of 

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like force feed an animal or a 
child. 

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I don't believe in that. 
So I supplement what I think 

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they're not getting because if 
they won't eat it, like 

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obviously if you have a dog that
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lucky you. 
But not everybody does, right? 

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Like not everybody does. 
So you're not going to force 

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feed. 
You may have to like get sneaky 

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about stuff, but you know, for 
me personally, like I'm not 

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eating beef liver, like I'm just
not eating it. 

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I'm not going to do it. 
I know I don't think I ever 

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have. 
I think we've talked about this 

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before. 
I don't think I ever have, and I

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doubt I ever will. 
So getting a supplement is the 

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perfect way to get those 
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And when we talk about old dogs,
I remember taking care of dogs 

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with cancer who, like, their 
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Like they just didn't have one. 
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You know, been existing anymore,
but you know, if if all that was

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keeping them going and they were
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walks was that supplementation 
they were giving them, then by 

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all means. 
You know, supplements are can be

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can be quality of life, you 
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And that's what I basically use 
them for. 

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I am using now a supplement for 
pain that is fantastic, but 

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that's, you know, it's a chronic
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There was no diagnosis, there's 
no fix because we don't know 

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what Satchmo feels or he seems 
to be in pain and he's very 

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reactive about like him being 
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He also had his tail docked, 
probably in a very inhumane way,

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which is very common. 
And so it could be trauma, it 

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could be physical pain. 
There's no way to know. 

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I can't ask him. 
So he takes an herbal pain 

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supplement and the vet, Chris, 
my husband mentioned it to the 

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vet and the vet put him on some 
medication, right? 

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And I'm like, the supplement's 
working since we started on the 

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supplement. 
You know, his gait is better, 

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his temperament's better, his 
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So to me, that's a great way of 
pinpointing what he needs, 

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finding something that is 
specifically for that chronic 

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pain and is working. 
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the medication is if you're 
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used for like post operative 
pain and things like that. 

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It says take Sunday off, right? 
So if you're doing it long term,

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take a day of the week off. 
And so we do that. 

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And like you said, it's, it's, 
you know, making sure that it's 

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the optimal products, following 
the method of giving it to them 

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either on and off or just like, 
you know, when after vaccines, 

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I'll do certain supplements just
for the bottle, like I'll use 

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just up, up, use up the bottle 
and that's it. 

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Maybe that's two or three weeks,
maybe a month, but I won't 

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continue that supplement 
forever. 

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It's just kind of to support the
liver during that time after the

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vaccine or the immune system or 
whatever. 

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So yeah, very, very intentional.
I feel like you have to be very 

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intentional about where you buy 
it, how it's made, what's in it 

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and how long you use it and what
it's for. 

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Exactly. 
And I mean, I think supplements 

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are amazing. 
I mean, I like I said, I give 

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them to my kids every day 
because they give me a Peace of 

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Mind. 
And I, my kids are so different.

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My dogs are so different. 
Like here I have to sneak 

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supplements in Satchmo. 
Whatever you put in this plate's

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getting eaten, right? 
So we have to remember that 

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everybody's an individual. 
And when we talked about, I 

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think it was Diane who said that
like some of them are worse for 

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you. 
Like, they actually interfere 

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with your, your body can't 
process them. 

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Like all women are constantly 
told when they're pregnant to 

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take folic acid. 
Well, folic acid interferes with

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your body's ability in some 
cases, in a lot of the 

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population with your ability to 
pull folate out of like, 

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spinach. 
So like you're eating folic 

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acid, you're taking a supplement
that's impeding your body's 

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process of taking it from the 
food. 

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So, yeah, knowing that 
supplements are not 100% benign 

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is probably one of the biggest 
motivations for this topic. 

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For me. 
It's like just and I and I, I 

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promise you that I adore my 
husband, but like, sometimes I'm

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like, have we not spoken about 
this? 

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Like, yeah, have I not been 
clear that we should not be 

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buying any supplements for 
anybody at like Walgreens? 

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That like, before spending our 
money on this, we should be 

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looking at what's in it. 
And it's not an impulse decision

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like our impulse buy, like, oh, 
this label looks good, like 

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impulse buy your wine. 
Like based. 

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On the label, right? 
And your budget, like this $9 

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dollar bottle of Pinot noir 
looks pretty fun. 

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OK, that's great. 
But a supplement can have, you 

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know, like secondary issues. 
And I remember when I was 

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pregnant and I was in groups, 
pregnancy groups, and I would 

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say like, you know, try to find 
methylated folate in, you know, 

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instead of folic acid. 
And some people would just be 

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like, folic acid is whatever 
OBGYN recommends. 

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And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I 
can assure you, yeah, I can 

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assure you that, like, that 
OBGYN may not be informed on the

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MTHFR genetic mutation that 
makes it so people like me can't

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process that. 
So everybody can process certain

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things like beef liver. 
We can all process that. 

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But there's no issue. 
There's no genetic mutation 

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that's gonna, like, impede our 
ability to, like, eat beef liver

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and, like, pull the nutrients we
need out of it. 

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But synthetics becomes a lot 
more individual. 

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And, like, there's so much we 
still don't know, right? 

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There's so much like we have no 
idea about. 

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Well, because they're created in
a vacuum, right? 

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They're they're created without 
knowing or testing interactions 

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with other even synthetics much 
less. 

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Exactly. 
Real food and real nutrients, 

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Millie's Raw Life says. 
How do you feel about 

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multivitamins? 
I'm not a fan. 

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For pets or for humans? 
Because there are multivitamins 

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for pets now. 
Yeah, either. 

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They were. 
They were all over Super Zoo. 

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Yeah, either. 
I know, I know again, because 

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most of them are synthetic or at
least have synthetics in them 

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and that's not going to be a 
problem for 100% of dogs, but it

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is going to be a problem for a 
lot of dogs. 

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And I just, again, they're 
created in a vacuum and that's 

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not how life works. 
So one of the things that I do 

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and I, I have one dog right now 
that I'm working with that we 

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went down the checklist of all 
the things that was, you know, 

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this dog was eating. 
And I'm like, let's pull the 

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synthetics, pull the synthetics 
and the dog's doing great. 

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Like it, it, it's, and that's 
not even, you know, something 

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that that's not a study, right? 
Like, I'm not putting this out 

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for the world to be like, look 
like, but I know, and this pet 

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parent now knows that her dog is
doing better after we pulled the

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food that had synthetic 
ingredients in it, like after 

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she has done so many things and 
finally her dog is like doing 

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really well. 
And it's like, wow, that's 

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amazing. 
And I'm not saying that's every 

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single dog, but you know, you 
get there some some dogs get 

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there. 
Some dogs just can't handle it 

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the way other dogs can. 
And I think we're starting to 

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see, I know we talked about this
about a year ago when that the 

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whole Purina thing was going 
crazy that, you know, OK, dogs 

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have been handling dealing with 
the onslaught of toxins and 

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carcinogens and just horrible 
quality foods for generations at

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this point. 
And you know, people are like, 

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oh, my dogs ate this forever and
ever and they lived to be 40 

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years or whatever the heck 
they're saying. 

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And it's like, it's not, I know,
right? 

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It's it's not the same. 
It is not, it's not the same 

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because the quality of 
ingredients have changed, then 

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the synthetics have changed and 
we have generation after 

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generation after generation now 
who have passed these traumas 

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along to their offspring and 
we're just not able to handle 

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what we used to be able to 
handle. 

450
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,920
The thing is true of us, right? 
We just, the, the world is so 

451
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,880
toxic that we're just able to 
handle less. 

452
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,240
We have to be intentional about 
keeping our environment clean, 

453
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,720
keeping our food clean and 
detoxing our bodies. 

454
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,240
And that's just the reality of 
the world we live in. 

455
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,440
So I got off on a tangent there.
I don't know. 

456
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,800
Where it was going, you're right
though, you're absolutely right 

457
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,520
because it's really epigenetics,
right? 

458
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Like it's like how the how the 
environment, how our nutrition, 

459
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:26,240
how everything affects our DNA. 
Like really that's what it is. 

460
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,000
Like it affects our DNA. 
And so for the example of the 

461
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,800
folic acid, that situation 
affects about 50% of the 

462
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,960
population and that's MTHFR, one
genetic mutation. 

463
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,160
And then there's like some other
genetic mutations that affect 

464
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,800
the other things. 
So when you don't know, like how

465
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:52,480
your body processes methylates 
vitamins, for example, if you 

466
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,400
have not, if your doctor is not 
testing your DNA or your 

467
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,680
epigenetics, your response to 
these supplements, these 

468
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,640
chemicals, these foods even like
right, like yours, freeze dried 

469
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,040
beef liver, then you don't know 
what's happening. 

470
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,080
You're taking it and you don't 
know what's happening. 

471
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,200
There are some vitamins that we 
take too much of it. 

472
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,360
We know that we took too much 
because we reach bile tolerance,

473
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,080
right? 
And like that is, you know, we 

474
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,640
were like, oops, that's too much
vitamin C because either your 

475
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,520
stomach starts getting upset or 
you just go to the bathroom a 

476
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,200
lot. 
And that's something that our 

477
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,240
body tells us. 
But like, there's a lot of stuff

478
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,040
our body's not telling us until 
it's too late, like when you 

479
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,000
know, our pregnancy has issues 
and because we don't have the 

480
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,440
nutrients we need to full to 
like, are you this pregnancy? 

481
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,440
You know you. 
Have a horrible postpartum 

482
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,320
depression because exactly that 
that folic acid is built up in 

483
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,800
your body, right Raw pal 
Adventure says multivitamins. 

484
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,920
Strong dislike. 
Yes for sure. 

485
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,480
For sure yes. 
Yes. 

486
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,720
Yes. 
And it's, and it's interesting 

487
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,600
because I do think that because 
of the quality of our food like 

488
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,840
magnesium for example, like 60 
to 80% of the population, human 

489
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,800
population is deficient in 
magnesium. 

490
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,680
Why is that? 
Because our soil is deficient in

491
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,000
magnesium and that is something 
that every, there are a million 

492
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,520
types of magnesium on the 
market. 

493
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,160
So everybody's going to go to 
CVS and just get the first 

494
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,000
bottle of magnesium they see. 
But magnesium, for example, is 

495
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,640
best absorbed through the skin. 
But nobody's going to tell you 

496
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,760
that because you just go and you
see magnesium, you buy it and 

497
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,400
you take it And there's 
magnesium that's better for 

498
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,720
sleep and there's magnesium 
that's better for energy and 

499
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,840
there's magnesium. 
And they all have a different 

500
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,720
name, magnesium this and 
magnesium that. 

501
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,880
And unless you do your research,
which unfortunately most 

502
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,280
consumers don't do, you are 
likely to get a magnesium that 

503
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,160
your body is not going to take 
anything out of that you're 

504
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,200
really, it's mostly fillers. 
The amount of magnesium that's 

505
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,200
actually in that tablet might be
negligible. 

506
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,760
So you're not going to be 
replacing the magnesium that 

507
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,520
you're using every day like 
magnesium, vitamin C, every 

508
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,360
single organ uses that, right? 
So like you need it, but then 

509
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,080
you think you're taking this and
you think you're giving your dog

510
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,280
this. 
Great, you know, hip and joint 

511
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,080
supplement and you're like, yay,
I'm doing what I'm supposed to 

512
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,680
be doing and you're not seeing 
any results. 

513
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,880
You don't feel any more 
energetic. 

514
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Your dog still limping and 
you're like, what the heck? 

515
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,440
And then you just stop because 
you get discouraged. 

516
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,640
And it's not about getting 
discouraged. 

517
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,600
It's about being educated on 
what you're doing. 

518
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,280
And that's why I'm always so 
grateful to like people like 

519
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:34,600
Jessica and Cara Rappa 
adventures and Bronwyn of 

520
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,840
Dulcie's legacy. 
I always say wrong. 

521
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,480
She's going to be on my show 
this week, actually. 

522
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,560
But I I've learned so much about
what just from what they share, 

523
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,320
right? 
Like, just from what you guys 

524
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,840
like put out that you're feeding
your pets. 

525
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,600
I've learned so much because I 
may not have a pet with their 

526
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,840
same pets ailments, but it's, 
you know, it's kind of like 6 or

527
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,400
maybe I'll learn about a brand. 
Like Jessica was so sweet. 

528
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,760
She sent a Christmas gift to my 
family and one of the things she

529
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,840
sent was Gussie's guts, the 
powder like a little green. 

530
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,600
It's called greens, right? 
Like. 

531
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,680
Gussie's guts. 
Yeah, they're the daily. 

532
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Yeah, the Daily Greens and. 
You know, it's, it's been so 

533
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,680
great for my dogs. 
It's been fantastic. 

534
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,000
It's I already knew the brand, 
but I had never used that 

535
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,640
particular product. 
So by learning from these other 

536
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,880
people, maybe what she uses with
Kim is not what Kira needs 

537
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,960
because they're considerably 
different in age. 

538
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,480
But I can learn about the brand.
Then I can go to that brand 

539
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,800
knowing that somebody I trust 
uses it and I can see if there's

540
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,920
anything that I can add to my 
pets diet. 

541
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:50,160
So that's why I'm like, 
supplementation is so nuanced 

542
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,160
and everybody buys supplements 
with the best of intentions. 

543
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,840
Because like really, if I'm 
going to spend $70.00 on a 

544
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,440
bottle of supplements or a new 
pair of shoes, I really want the

545
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,080
new pair of shoes, I'm not going
to lie. 

546
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,720
But I'm going to buy the 
supplement thinking I'm doing 

547
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,040
something good for myself. 
But if I'm not, how frustrating 

548
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,639
is that? 
It it's, yes, it's very 

549
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:13,679
frustrating. 
And there, I mean, there are, 

550
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,560
gosh, there's so many things. 
And and This is why I'm like, we

551
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:24,719
have got to figure out how to, 
we're never going to, I'm going 

552
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,840
to do my air quotes, get over 
shiny object syndrome. 

553
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,080
I think that's just kind of like
built into our brains, but we 

554
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:36,120
have to be able to like 
individually figure out how we 

555
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,400
can snap ourselves out of it and
like take stock of if we 

556
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,080
actually need something or not. 
A lot of times I will add 

557
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,320
something to my cart and tell 
myself if I add something to my 

558
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,960
cart, I have to at least sleep 
on it before I purchase it, 

559
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,840
right? 
Because I might need to do more 

560
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,480
research on it. 
And so for example, you know, 

561
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:07,280
you don't want to take vitamin 
D3 without also taking K2, but 

562
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:13,320
also if you take it in a capsule
with fat, because they're both 

563
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,320
fat soluble vitamins, then it's 
it's easier to absorb. 

564
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:23,280
So like I take my vitamin D3 and
K2 and coconut oil to make sure 

565
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,080
that it's it's more bioavailable
that I'm getting the benefit out

566
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,280
of it that I need there. 
I mean, there are so many 

567
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,280
situations like that. 
And then on the other end of the

568
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,520
spectrum, like I don't, I 
personally take a magnesium 

569
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,320
glycanate because there are so 
many types of magnesium and you 

570
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,800
can look, I mean you, you can 
look online to see like all the 

571
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,560
different types of magnesium and
what they're. 

572
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,520
That are amazing too, like and 
you know these people there are 

573
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,840
iodine groups on Facebook. 
There are vitamin C groups. 

574
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,280
There are so many. 
And like when you really think 

575
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,680
about it, like we're not all 
going to live off of just 

576
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,680
vitamin C or magnesium alone, 
right? 

577
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,560
So like be careful with those. 
But like, yeah, if you, there 

578
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,960
are graphics out there that have
like every magnesium and what 

579
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,720
it's for. 
So you take glyconate and when 

580
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,440
do you take it? 
So I take that one almost right 

581
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,160
before I go to bed after away 
from food because I want to take

582
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,960
it away from fats. 
And so I've already stopped 

583
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,680
eating for a couple of hours 
before I take that one, but 

584
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,200
that's specific to that 
supplement. 

585
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,240
The rest of my supplements I 
take with food, generally with 

586
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,520
milk because that's right. 
That's that's I use. 

587
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,560
I use magnesium sulfate and it's
through a cream and I take it. 

588
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,080
I also use it at night but it's 
because it's like supposed to 

589
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,960
induce sleep too. 
And I put it on my and I put it 

590
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,880
and it itches the skin. 
So I have to put it on my feet 

591
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,040
and I have to, I put it on my 
kids feet. 

592
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,720
And the babies are that's so 
good for babies because 

593
00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:59,640
especially breastfed babies, 
they're getting whatever 

594
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,000
nutrients we have and we're so 
depleted as moms and we're 

595
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,680
probably not eating very well. 
So like it's great for babies 

596
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,600
too. 
And it's always been a cream and

597
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,960
I always have, you know, like 
the really high quality Epsom 

598
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,400
salt to put in my kids baths, 
right? 

599
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,160
And my babies baths because I, 
you know, six months old, you're

600
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,600
not giving them a supplement. 
So how are you getting it in 

601
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,080
them? 
You're putting it on their feet 

602
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,240
or you're putting in the bath. 
So yeah, it's about knowing who 

603
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:31,120
it's for, what the purpose is, 
like what the goal is. 

604
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,640
And be very careful about like I
did say, like we learned from 

605
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,000
people who know, but also be 
careful with just saying, Oh 

606
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,440
yeah, it works for this person 
down the street. 

607
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,400
So I'm going to go ahead and 
start using it because just 

608
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,800
because it works for them in 
their vacuum, right? 

609
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:56,240
In that vacuum of a dog or cat 
or human, that specific genetic 

610
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,600
makeup, it worked. 
It doesn't necessarily mean it's

611
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,040
going to have the same effect on
somebody else. 

612
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,680
And I, I see this with parenting
all the time and like ADHD, what

613
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,240
are, what omega-3 are you giving
and what beep complex are you 

614
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:12,840
giving and all these things. 
And I'm thinking to myself, 

615
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,080
like, what if we just improved 
the diet? 

616
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Like what if we just removed 
dyes from that child's food? 

617
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,680
What if we just removed the 
amount of sugar they're getting 

618
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,640
everyday? 
And like, I get that there's 

619
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:34,360
like food deserts and like food 
swamps really where it's just 

620
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,000
fast food and, and it's just 
terrible. 

621
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,400
And I'm not saying that all kids
are going to take to the 

622
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,440
broccoli in the Brussels 
sprouts, but instead of spending

623
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,000
the $50 on the B complex gummies
from whatever brand that it's 

624
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,960
amazing and you're going to have
to subscribe and save just to 

625
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,000
like get it in the budget. 
And you're going to end up with 

626
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,200
like a ton of it that nobody's 
taking or whatever, right? 

627
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,720
Or not seeing any results. 
Maybe we just reduce the amount 

628
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:02,440
of sugar candy that they're 
eating. 

629
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,280
And like, that's really when it 
comes down to, like, supplements

630
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,520
are not a Band-Aid for bad 
nutrition, not for anybody. 

631
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,720
And I think you're the one who 
says, like, you can really mess 

632
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:15,440
up a diet with the wrong 
supplement. 

633
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,840
Yeah, I think you can sometimes.
Can you give us an example of 

634
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,400
what that would look like for a 
dog or cat? 

635
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,920
Yeah. 
Well, you can be giving your dog

636
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:37,200
or your cat a really amazing 
high quality raw food diet or 

637
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:43,880
fresh food diet, let's just say,
and be one of those, you know, 

638
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,680
one of those type A's that are 
feeding off of a spreadsheet if 

639
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,520
you want it. 
Like if you want to go all out 

640
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,960
and say that like your dog's 
diet is perfect. 

641
00:39:53,320 --> 00:40:01,400
And then you add a omega-3 oil 
that has it's it's in a plastic 

642
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,520
bottle that's a gallon size with
a pump on it and it's rancid. 

643
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,040
And. 
It may or may not be the fish 

644
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:15,120
that's on the packaging. 
Yeah, I mean, that's an example,

645
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,920
but I think everything that we 
have just been talking about in 

646
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,000
the last, I don't know, 15 
minutes or so is exact is also 

647
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,920
exactly why it is so much better
to get your nutrients from your 

648
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,640
diet because then you don't have
to worry about is this 

649
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,120
synthetic? 
Is this not synthetic? 

650
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,280
How is it going to work with 
this or that? 

651
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,360
Should I take it with food? 
Should I not take it with food? 

652
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,640
Do I need to take it with fat? 
Do I need to take it with like, 

653
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,800
you don't have to worry about 
all of those things because 

654
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,680
you're getting it from nature, 
you're getting it in your diet. 

655
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,360
So I'm not, I'm not there. 
I'm not, I'm not going to lie, 

656
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,000
like me personally, my dog and 
my cats are closer to that than 

657
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,120
I am for sure. 
I'm trying. 

658
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,240
Well, I mean, it's much easier 
to do for a dog and cat. 

659
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,320
I mean, as a parent to two 
children who like food 

660
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,800
completely differently, Like my 
daughter is a big carnivore. 

661
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:15,760
You give them chicken and 
potatoes and my son is eating 

662
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,080
the potatoes 1st and my 
daughter's eating the chicken 

663
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,480
first. 
Like that's just who they are. 

664
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,840
They're different. 
And I always say, like with our 

665
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,880
pets, it's just like, you put it
in the bowl and if it's fresh, 

666
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,640
they're going to eat it. 
And I know that there's like 

667
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,880
you've even recently shared, 
like transitioning your cat to 

668
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,200
like a fresh diet. 
It's not always easy. 

669
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,480
It's not always like for, you 
know, straightforward, but it 

670
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,800
can be done. 
And once you do that once, let's

671
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,360
say that they've embraced the 
diet, they can't open the 

672
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,680
fridge, they can't order 
DoorDash. 

673
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:51,200
Like they're, they're the 
easiest ones to control. 

674
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,120
So like when it comes to our 
pets, we really have the most 

675
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,960
control, assuming they're indoor
cats and obviously indoor pets 

676
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,400
that we take care of, dogs and 
cats that we share our lives 

677
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,600
with. 
They're not going to get any 

678
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,720
kind of exposure that you're not
aware of or that you're not in 

679
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,080
somewhat somewhat in control of.
Obviously off gassing our stuff 

680
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:19,840
is is kind of out of our control
but but they're not going to 

681
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,800
open the bag of chips like you 
are on like a stressed out day 

682
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,120
in front of the TV. 
Yeah, they might want to. 

683
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,640
They might be. 
They'll look at you so you can 

684
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:35,480
share, but you don't have. 
You don't have to Let's see, 

685
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,520
there are some more, OK. 
Millie's raw life says. 

686
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,400
What Whole Foods sources do you 
recommend for hip and joint 

687
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,080
support? 
I, I really go with like feeds 

688
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:50,560
like so raw meaty bones, really 
like collagen Rich Bone Broth 

689
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,440
others, you know, any, any 
sources of collagen and contour 

690
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,960
and green lip muscles are good 
for that. 

691
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,400
So I mean, there's a lot that 
that you can do there. 

692
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:10,000
Yeah, the like Nike feeds like 
for those who aren't aware, 

693
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,680
which again, our audience, a lot
of them are. 

694
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,920
But basically if you have liver 
issues taking eating liver, if 

695
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:24,440
you have, I don't know, kidney 
issues, eating kidney like those

696
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,400
are. 
I mean, now that I think about 

697
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,240
it, I had never thought my 
grandmother is in chronic kidney

698
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:30,680
failure. 
I mean, she's lived with us for 

699
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,720
years and I'm like, I've never 
thought about giving her a 

700
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:37,120
kidney supplement. 
But yeah, like that, that is the

701
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,760
idea is that when we eat that it
nourishes that particular organ.

702
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,160
So that's just what like eating 
like means. 

703
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,480
But it I and it really is very, 
it makes a lot of sense. 

704
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,960
It does. 
It really does, OK, Diane says. 

705
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,240
What do you know about taking 
collagen? 

706
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:03,080
I heard it's a waste of money. 
You mean the beauty collagen? 

707
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,200
I know I take collagen. 
Talking about, yeah. 

708
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,960
Yeah, I take collagen. 
I mean, for my pets, they're 

709
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:16,480
getting it through like, you 
know, the bone and all the 

710
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,680
connective tissue and all of 
like they're they're getting it 

711
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,760
in their food. 
I don't eat that. 

712
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,440
I don't eat raw bones. 
I don't think we can as humans 

713
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,120
eat raw bones. 
I. 

714
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,760
Don't like your teeth? 
Exactly. 

715
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,440
It's a very nice day here. 
It's like 80°, so everybody's 

716
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:40,440
outside. 
So, but yeah, I, I do personally

717
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,560
take collagen, but there are a 
lot of bad collagens on the 

718
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,480
market because there are lots of
different, there's like college 

719
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,080
type 1, type 2 type, like all 
the different types. 

720
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:54,320
And, but even if you get all of 
that right, then sourcing is an 

721
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,920
issue because, you know, where 
are they getting the collagen 

722
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,080
from and is it a clean source? 
And so there's a lot, there's a 

723
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,600
lot that goes into. 
That eat your collagen by just 

724
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,000
eating the proteins like the 
fish and the beef. 

725
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,480
And that's a really great way to
get your collagen just from food

726
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,760
because we're, we're, we can 
have bone broth too, you know 

727
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,200
what I mean? 
Like we can have those I and 

728
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:25,400
like in Spain, it's very common 
to eat like just like a big bowl

729
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,720
of fisherman's Stew, right? 
And it's just like all the fish 

730
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:32,440
in the bones in the stuff. 
And they basically cook, cook, 

731
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,200
cook, cook, cook, strain out all
that stuff. 

732
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,200
And then you just eat the broth.
And like that's where we get the

733
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,400
majority of our in the 
Mediterranean diet, you're 

734
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,600
getting all of that. 
Why? 

735
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,840
Because you're eating from the 
land, you're eating from the 

736
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,040
sea, you're eating what is 
available to you in nature. 

737
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,480
And so for me, it's like, yes, I
will supplement some stuff. 

738
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,400
Yes, I'll use some great stuff, 
but I try to just eat a well 

739
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:03,600
balanced diet so that I can and 
I I don't know, like I just feel

740
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,160
like if we if we spend all our 
money on supplements, do we have

741
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,560
any money left for the grocery 
bill or, or are we just, you 

742
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,640
know. 
Yeah. 

743
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,960
That's my only concern with 
collagen, yeah. 

744
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,040
I personally, I take it, but I. 
And I do take peptides because 

745
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,960
that's really like where the 
conversation gets to. 

746
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,040
So like so deep which, what do 
you take? 

747
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,920
Which one is good? 
Right, I have not. 

748
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,600
I, I recently started looking 
into it because doctor Katie 

749
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:38,160
Woodley is really, really big 
into BPC 157, I believe, which 

750
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,360
she started running training for
marathon. 

751
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,520
So that makes sense. 
Like you're so, you know, dogs 

752
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,360
that have like a cruciate tear 
or something that makes a whole 

753
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,200
lot of sense to use peptides 
like that. 

754
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,360
KKMON 31. 
What do you recommend for doggy 

755
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,680
dementia? 
Lots of things. 

756
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:07,040
Mushrooms. 
Yep, so fresh food, diet, lots 

757
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:13,560
of Omega threes, DHAEPA. 
We did in fact, well, I 

758
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,720
recently, a couple months ago, 
maybe it was December, had a 

759
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:22,400
podcast with Judah from Nordic 
Naturals, which was like a 

760
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,200
master class on omegas. 
I recently did a live with Cara 

761
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,840
from Rawpaw Adventures where we 
talked about seed oils and 

762
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,640
omegas, fish oils. 
So that is it's, it's already 

763
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,080
live on her podcast feed. 
It's going to go live on my 

764
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:43,240
podcast feed tomorrow. 
So omegas are huge, huge DHA and

765
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:48,560
EPA for brain health. 
And then mushrooms like Isabel 

766
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:54,320
said, especially lion's mane, 
that again, it's a mushroom. 

767
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,600
But if we go back to like feeds 
like lion's mane looks like a 

768
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:58,720
brain. 
Yeah. 

769
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,960
So. 
And you want the extract, you 

770
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,040
don't want necessarily the 
powder cuz that'll take you'll 

771
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,080
need so much of the powder 
sometimes. 

772
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,320
So then extract is really what I
found helped tighten a lot in 

773
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,080
this final. 
Yeah, I and somebody that we 

774
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,400
both know, I think has been 
dealing with Sundowners and her 

775
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:25,000
dog and she actually is lying. 
Lions made mushrooms and making 

776
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,000
a tea out of it. 
And so she's giving the tea and 

777
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,040
she's giving the cooked lions 
made from the. 

778
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,480
So it's like a it's, it's been 
doing really, really well. 

779
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,880
Kind of like concentrated in the
tea. 

780
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,720
One thing I will say about 
Omegas, and that is just because

781
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:44,480
we're talking about supplements,
is that I remember in at Super 

782
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:49,680
Zoo last year, I met the founder
of Austin and Kat, Kat 

783
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,960
Donatello. 
And just like in chatting with 

784
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,520
her, she was showing me her line
of, of oils of omegas. 

785
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,240
And just in chatting, she said 
there was, you know, this really

786
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:06,280
great brand that everybody was 
using and a third party tested 

787
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,840
the DN like what what fish it 
would have come from. 

788
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:16,200
And not one of the species that 
was mentioned on the label was 

789
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:20,600
actually in that sample. 
So, you know, that's why it's so

790
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,000
important to go with like Nordic
Naturals. 

791
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,360
I've been taking for years. 
My kids have taken, my mom's 

792
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,560
taken, my grandmother's taken. 
Like they, they make obviously 

793
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,680
pet omegas too. 
They're a renowned brand with a 

794
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,800
lot of controls. 
And they're just that. 

795
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,480
That's like their claim to 
theme. 

796
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,840
They started in the human 
market, then went to pets. 

797
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,360
But like sometimes when you go 
to PetSmart, you just like like 

798
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,160
what you described, you find 
this big bottle with a pump. 

799
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,160
It's so easy. 
It smells like fish. 

800
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,760
So you're like, yay. 
But not all fish oil is created 

801
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,320
equal. 
Obviously fish is not created 

802
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,560
equal. 
Like I don't eat farmed fish. 

803
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,760
Personally, I try to avoid it. 
It just, to me, it's just and 

804
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,080
and and and now the more 
polluted our oceans get, the 

805
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,280
less I even want to eat fish in 
general. 

806
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,080
And the more I know about fish 
and how we handle sushi, for 

807
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,960
example, or has to be like 
frozen for however long just to 

808
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,560
kill all the parasites in it. 
I the less I kind of want to eat

809
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,760
fish. 
So fish is something omegas from

810
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,640
fish is something you really 
need to be careful with because 

811
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:31,240
otherwise you're not getting 
what is even on the label if 

812
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:35,000
you're not careful. 
So none because the supplement 

813
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:41,440
market is not really regulated 
as pharmaceuticals are said to 

814
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,760
be the like. 
That's why it says the FDA has 

815
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,840
not evaluated the claims made on
this bottle, right? 

816
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,960
When you buy any supplement, it 
says it everywhere, like the FDA

817
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,000
is not. 
And because there's no 

818
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,360
regulation, you don't really 
know what you're getting unless 

819
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,360
you really look closer. 
Yeah. 

820
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,280
And obviously with pets it's 
even less so. 

821
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,320
Yes, Diane is asking if she can 
ask a question not related to 

822
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,720
supplements. 
You can. 

823
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,920
And then K Mon 31 says RMAO's OK
if my doggie with dementia has 

824
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:24,720
high liver enzymes. 
Generally speaking, yes, what 

825
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:27,960
Isabel was just talking about, 
you want to make sure what 

826
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,760
they're claiming is in the 
product is in the product. 

827
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,080
But when we're thinking about 
the liver, we also want to make 

828
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,920
sure that the things that 
shouldn't be in the product are 

829
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,760
not so that heavy metals, micro 
plastics, things like that. 

830
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:49,120
They're it's an issue with any 
marine life because we have just

831
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:57,360
polluted the oceans so badly 
that there isn't I, I, I don't 

832
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:04,760
think there's a human or animal 
maybe on Earth that doesn't have

833
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,160
microplastics in their body, in 
their brain. 

834
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,120
And they're like, it's, it's 
ubiquitous. 

835
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,600
Is that the word I'm looking for
at this point? 

836
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,440
But heavy metals are certainly a
concern, especially with larger 

837
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,080
fish. 
So you want a company that is 

838
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:28,520
third party tested for quality 
and purity, but also for what's 

839
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,800
not in there that shouldn't be 
there, that they're showing that

840
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:39,000
they're, you know, the levels 
are below if it's even possible 

841
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,680
anymore. 
There's an issue right now with 

842
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,840
like kelp. 
I don't even know if if we can 

843
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:49,080
get kelp at all on this planet 
that is below the, you know, 

844
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,560
maximum levels that are 
considered safe. 

845
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,200
How do you feel about Aquiflower
Omega oils which is like the 

846
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:03,240
plant based alternative to the 
salmon and all that oil? 

847
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,560
I I haven't heard of that. 
I mean I. 

848
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,400
Know there's like. 
It's been used a lot in horses. 

849
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:20,880
Wagwell, I, I met them at Super 
Zoo and it basically is I, I 

850
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,120
think cat and Austin and cat has
another one that's very much 

851
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,720
plant based as well. 
So there are options for plant 

852
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:33,920
based ones for those that are 
like scared to do the whole 

853
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,800
marine life, which I don't 
blame. 

854
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:42,480
You well, well you can get, you 
can get Ala from plants, but you

855
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,520
can't get DHA and EPA from 
plants. 

856
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,880
So. 
She has the marine algae oil. 

857
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Algae. 
Algae. 

858
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,480
I thought you said AHI. 
Yes, algae oil. 

859
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,480
They're 2. 
Different things. 

860
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,920
Ahi flour. 
Ahi, OK, I'm like, what is that?

861
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,640
I don't know. 
What algae? 

862
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,720
Flour. 
OK so I'll send you a link. 

863
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:05,160
So AHI flour is used in the 
Inhumans and it's used in horses

864
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,480
from what I remember them 
telling me, but it had not been 

865
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:14,800
brought to the pet market yet. 
And then Cat, Austin and Cat has

866
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,360
a marine algae oil and I trust 
their process so much. 

867
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,240
It is vegan, plant friendly 
alternative to traditional fish 

868
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:30,400
oils because obviously using up 
the fish for any purpose is now 

869
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,040
concerning for so many reasons, 
just our ecosystem in general. 

870
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:43,040
So there are this Austin and Cat
has microalgae plankton. 

871
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:54,040
I'm sorry, it replaces 
microalgae. the IT, it brings 

872
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,640
the microalgae straight to the 
pets. 

873
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,720
Just bringing the omegas from 
there instead of bringing any 

874
00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:03,080
plankton, wild fish, fisheries, 
fish oil and all that, which is 

875
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,360
what you get when you have to do
a fish oil. 

876
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,640
Like there's just so much 
environmental strain when you 

877
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,400
just get a fish oil. 
Yeah. 

878
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,360
OK. 
So I eat flour it, it contains 

879
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:21,520
steridonic acid, which so the 
problem with most plant based 

880
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,920
omegas like flaxseed, chia seed,
things like that is that the 

881
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,840
Ala, the body has to convert Ala
into EPA and DHA. 

882
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,880
And you're only getting like 
between 1 and 10% can actually 

883
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:41,160
convert into EPA and DHA. 
So the claim with Ahiflower is 

884
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:47,200
that the steridonic acid is 4 
times more efficiently converted

885
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:52,440
than Ala. 
So that would be 4 to 40% if 

886
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,200
it's four times. 
So you're still going to have to

887
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,800
take more than twice the amount 
to get the same levels of EPA 

888
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,160
and DHA. 
But I mean, I guess you do what 

889
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,760
you got to do, right? 
And but then again, you're 

890
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,360
dealing with an oil, which is a 
fat. 

891
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,920
And so if your animal isn't 
tolerant of fats, then that's 

892
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,960
still, that's not going to work.
But that's interesting. 

893
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:24,240
It's interesting. 
Yeah, Ahi flowers it's it's a 

894
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,960
it's from a flower that was that
in the UK like it's like a 

895
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,240
flower flower and it's not super
common, which is why it's 

896
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,600
recently been brought into the 
to the pet market. 

897
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,120
It's it's available to humans, 
but I've never heard it until I 

898
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:47,000
met with with Wagwell last year.
They were like, this is our Ahi 

899
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,160
flower on like sounds beautiful.
What is it? 

900
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:57,520
So, yeah, just remember that 
there are other options for, for

901
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,720
those that are like really 
concerned about fish, but mostly

902
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,960
I'm not. 
I, I give my kids omegas from 

903
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:12,680
like fish, fish sources, as much
as I hate, you know, that 

904
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:16,520
because they won't eat fish. 
I, I could, I could do up some 

905
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,000
clod right now. 
Really yummy. 

906
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,320
And they're looking at it like 
they eat shrimp, but they won't 

907
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,440
eat any other fish really. 
And so we try to balance what we

908
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:32,120
eat versus what we, you know, 
what we supplement in that 

909
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,840
sense. 
But there are people who I know,

910
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,880
like dogs and cats, should not 
be vegan. 

911
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,280
I am not saying that that is OK,
But if you want to find 

912
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,400
something vegan to supplement, 
there are options for you. 

913
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:50,720
So just keep that in mind. 
Diane says her 2 cats she thinks

914
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,120
has earmites. 
I'm so sorry earmites. 

915
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:59,200
I I think you should be able to 
get the two crazy cat ladies 

916
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,600
products. 
I mean, obviously there's 

917
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:08,040
shipping time, but feline? 
Essential Diane in the UK. 

918
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,520
Yeah. 
So they're shipping. 

919
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,400
I I think, I think they can ship
there. 

920
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:17,440
I think so, I'm pretty sure. 
I'm sure that if if you were to 

921
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,400
contact them, they'd let you 
know if they can even. 

922
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,640
Oh yeah. 
They can do it. 

923
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:28,560
Yeah. 
So for the ears I think is 

924
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,720
Oxycat. 
Oxycats for everything. 

925
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,920
I know I use oxycat for 
everything. 

926
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,640
Too my cats on oxycat right now 
because he just had his his 

927
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:42,800
rabies shot and I'm like we need
we need the oxycat immediately 

928
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,480
and I've taken oxycat myself 
when I feel. 

929
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,960
Feeling under the weather? 
So. 

930
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,680
Same. 
That's a good thing to have on 

931
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,440
hand. 
That's you see that's like to 

932
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,840
me, that's a supplement that 
like I, I will always have on 

933
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,680
hand and it is not something we 
give every day, but that's one 

934
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,040
that you have on hand. 
And another supplement that I do

935
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,880
a lot and I don't do it 
constantly is the porcine plasma

936
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:10,240
from Winpro Pet. 
I like it for my older dog, the 

937
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,480
2nd that I took him off of it, I
could see the difference because

938
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:19,280
I, I hadn't like refilled right?
Like my subscription, like I'd 

939
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:24,240
run out and my subscription was 
like 3 days passed and even my 

940
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,880
husband was like, Oh my gosh, 
like I can see the difference. 

941
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,520
So those are the moments where 
you say OK, like maybe this 15 

942
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,760
year old dog needs to live on 
this for the rest of his life 

943
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,480
and it's OK. 
There's a filler too. 

944
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,840
Like it just seems to help. 
And the porcine plasma also came

945
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,320
from like the horse industry. 
A lot of the stuff we get is 

946
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:47,520
like, you know, horses are so 
abused, their bodies are so 

947
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,000
abused and they're not going to 
be adventurous eaters, right 

948
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,680
horses. 
So you supplement, they 

949
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,880
supplement a lot for them. 
And so that that porcine plasma 

950
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:03,240
started in the horse racing 
industry, then it went into 

951
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,320
agility, dog agility, and now 
it's just like available to the 

952
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,960
general public for different 
things. 

953
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,400
And they say they mix different 
supplements, herbals and things.

954
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,760
With the porcine plasma 
specifically for each chronic 

955
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,400
situation that your dog might 
have. 

956
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,880
So and now they have like some 
treats for cats. 

957
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,960
It's supposed to be dental 
treats, but my cat likes them so

958
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,880
I give them to him. 
But they have like a calming 

959
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,600
they have a joint, they have an 
allergy, one that I think is 

960
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,200
their best seller. 
So it's worth a shot, you know, 

961
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,880
But again, like these 
supplements could just be a 

962
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,320
Band-Aid for tighten. 
It was the Band-Aid of age. 

963
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,760
We're just putting a Band-Aid on
age and for somebody or a dog 

964
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,320
with allergies, it could just be
gut health that you're putting a

965
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,080
Band-Aid on right. 
So I just, you have experts at 

966
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,920
your fingertips. 
Anytime somebody that I know 

967
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,560
reaches out to me and it's like,
oh, what supplement do you 

968
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,480
recommend for this and that I'm 
like, I recommend Jessica Fisher

969
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:10,200
reset and Cara of raw POD 
ventures and I recommend you 

970
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,720
talk to them so that you can 
figure out what is actually 

971
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,800
wrong. 
And if the supplements going to 

972
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,600
help you, then they will be the 
ones who tell you which 

973
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,880
supplement that'll be. 
Because when you throw a million

974
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,520
supplements at something, you 
could end up spending more than 

975
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,080
the consultation would have cost
you to talk to these experts who

976
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,320
are going to talk walk you 
through a list of what your pets

977
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,880
getting every single day and 
what you could eliminate that 

978
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,760
might solve the problem. 
So just my shout out to the 

979
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,640
experts and the people who you 
can trust. 

980
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,040
And like there are a lot of 
people with different 

981
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,120
backgrounds and different 
priorities. 

982
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:52,480
And obviously, I know Jessica, 
she's my girl, so I'm going to 

983
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,760
always recommend her. 
And then obviously Cara too, I 

984
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,520
trust her implicitly, so I'm 
going to recommend them. 

985
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,640
But find somebody that you like,
that resonates with you and what

986
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,400
you believe. 
And before going and just 

987
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,480
throwing supplements in a bowl, 
talk to somebody. 

988
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,640
Talk to somebody who's 
knowledgeable. 

989
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,640
And your vet may not be that 
person. 

990
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,440
So yeah, I have to say that. 
Yeah, I know it. 

991
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:22,320
I I hate so much when like I see
people posting like I happened 

992
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,920
to I I went to college with this
girl and she's been posting on 

993
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,760
Facebook. 
I I recently removed Facebook 

994
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,080
from my life, but while I was 
still on Facebook. 

995
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,560
Facebook. 
I know everybody. 

996
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,160
'S fighting there. 
So we would like to have nice. 

997
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,360
Conversations on Instagram, 
Facebook, people are fighting. 

998
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,280
I mean, I'm live on Facebook 
right now, but people are 

999
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,760
fighting too much over there 
right now. 

1000
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,520
I have to take a break. 
Yeah, but I mean, she's like her

1001
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:53,200
dog has very bad food 
sensitivities and allergies and 

1002
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,840
she's like trying all of these 
different foods on top of the 

1003
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,800
kibble. 
And like, I've, I've commented 

1004
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,200
multiple times and I'm like, I 
could help you with this and you

1005
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,080
know, it's fine. 
Like people, the thing that 

1006
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,480
bothers me with that is like, 
people try so many things that 

1007
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,920
by the time they get to me, our 
options are so limited because 

1008
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,720
when you have a dog with food 
sensitivities, you're creating 

1009
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,080
more and more and more 
sensitivities to everything that

1010
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,720
you're trying with them. 
So by the time they come to me, 

1011
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,600
it's like I'm really having to 
dig deep trying to find anything

1012
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,280
that we can use for these. 
I mean, this is just my my life 

1013
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,000
at this point. 
Well, also, I feel like people 

1014
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,480
will get mad at the Band-Aid and
they won't try it again. 

1015
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,400
They'll be like, oh, that was 
terrible. 

1016
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,360
And it's like, no, but you were 
also doing this and this and 

1017
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,000
this during that test. 
So that test doesn't doesn't 

1018
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,840
really, it's not a valid 
experience of what it would be 

1019
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,640
like now that we've gotten other
things under control. 

1020
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,000
Right. 
And I feel like I've seen that 

1021
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,240
with moms too, like where it's 
like my my kids eczema was made 

1022
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,800
worse by this cream. 
And I'm like, well, maybe it was

1023
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,400
like the allergen you ate the 
night before. 

1024
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,200
Yeah. 
That, I believe, made it worse. 

1025
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,480
Not the cream, but now the 
cream's the the culprit, right? 

1026
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,760
So yeah, it's tough. 
And, and I, I do want to also 

1027
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,960
say, and this isn't true with 
every supplement that that we 

1028
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,760
talk about because something for
instance, like the Oxycat from 

1029
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,800
Feline Essentials works really 
well. 

1030
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,040
It works really quickly. 
But generally speaking, when we 

1031
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:35,280
are looking at nature, when like
if we're looking at herbs that 

1032
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:40,080
we're adding in or because I 
again somebody today was, I had 

1033
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:44,520
recommended an herbal supplement
and she's like, I gave it one 

1034
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,920
time and I didn't see a result. 
Yeah, we need to give this for 

1035
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,960
four to six weeks and see how 
like and and this isn't. 

1036
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,480
Like the quantity, like you 
said, like I remember saying 

1037
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,320
that same thing, just one of my 
staff members who had a ton of 

1038
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,000
inflammation in her knees. 
And I was like, I hear that 

1039
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,120
turmeric's really good for that.
And just like I tried it. 

1040
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,840
But did you try the one from, 
from like CVS that barely has 

1041
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,880
any turmeric? 
That may or may not be turmeric?

1042
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,040
Because if that's what you 
tried, then you didn't give it a

1043
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,600
try. 
As far as I'm concerned, you did

1044
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:15,760
it. 
Did you make golden paste at 

1045
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,200
home from the highest quality 
turmeric that you could find? 

1046
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,840
No. 
OK, Then you didn't try 

1047
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:23,800
turmeric. 
Right, yes, but and, and I don't

1048
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,920
say this to like blame anybody 
or shame anybody. 

1049
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,160
It's not your fault. 
It's what you've been 

1050
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,400
conditioned to believe by our 
sick care system and our 

1051
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,440
Pharmaceutical industry that you
should be able to take a pill 

1052
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,440
and it's going to work overnight
like magic. 

1053
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:45,200
That is not the reality. 
And when something does air 

1054
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:52,400
quote work like that, it is not 
without bajillion risks and side

1055
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:57,960
effects, right? 
Like when we look at Nat, when 

1056
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,240
we look at nature, it's not 
going to change overnight. 

1057
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:06,880
So that's please be aware. 
Something will change overnight,

1058
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,000
maybe 24 to 48 hours is when you
eliminate something that's 

1059
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,080
making you sick, like that's the
only and like it's eliminating, 

1060
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,480
not adding. 
Right, you know what I mean. 

1061
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,840
Like I remember when I first 
gave up dairy, I was overdoing 

1062
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,000
dairy. 
I was vegetarian. 

1063
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,440
I was just dairy, dairy, dairy, 
dairy, dairy. 

1064
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,160
And I gave it up. 
And like that first week, I was 

1065
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,080
waking up at like 5:00 AM super 
refreshed because what did I do?

1066
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,920
I got, I got rid of all the 
stuff that was impeding me from 

1067
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,160
sleeping well because my airway 
was all congested and all that. 

1068
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,160
After a while, I didn't wake up 
at 5:00 AM anymore. 

1069
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,240
I was still wasn't, you know, 
eating dairy or anything. 

1070
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,160
But it does like take time to 
for your body to adjust to 

1071
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,400
things. 
And if something is going to be 

1072
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,360
immediate, it's going to be an 
elimination diet because you're 

1073
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:55,000
basically like living off 
something that five and what 5 

1074
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,520
things. 
And then you're going to feel 

1075
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,480
great because you're not 
ingesting any allergens. 

1076
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,080
But yeah, that's something that 
we need to keep in mind that 

1077
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:09,360
none of this is none of this is 
a magic pill, not for humans, 

1078
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:15,120
not for our pets. 
Just because somebody gives you 

1079
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,040
a pill does not mean their 
separation anxiety goes away 

1080
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:23,680
their ADHD for kids, their anger
and rage does not go away 

1081
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,640
because you gave them magnesium 
like. 

1082
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,800
We. 
Put a little too much stock into

1083
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:33,120
these supplements so for nobody.
And again, that's where 

1084
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:38,200
eliminating can actually give 
you more benefit, eliminating 

1085
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,840
the sugars, eliminating the 
dyes, eliminating even the 

1086
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,840
gluten sometimes you know, 
because of the glyphosate. 

1087
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:48,720
Like there's look at. 
Look at what you can remove 

1088
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:54,080
before you start adding in more.
Yes, yes, absolutely. 

1089
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,480
And if you want to remove, if 
you want to add stuff, then 

1090
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,360
before you do that, just talk to
somebody who can look at their 

1091
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:05,840
whole diet lifestyle properly 
and give you a good idea. 

1092
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,040
And I, I love vets. 
So I'm not, I'm going to go back

1093
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:09,480
to what I said. 
I'm not your vet. 

1094
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:15,360
Most vets don't have the time to
really invest in educating 

1095
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,960
themselves on these eliminations
and things like that, unless 

1096
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,160
maybe their specialty is like an
allergy situation. 

1097
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,560
But very few of them assess 
their specialized in gut health.

1098
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,600
They're really not going to have
the knowledge and they're not 

1099
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,040
going to have the time or the 
ability to sit down and like 

1100
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,960
make a list of all your feeding 
your pet and what might be a 

1101
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,359
problem. 
My vet is very thorough. 

1102
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:44,600
She's wonderful. 
Like when when my husband went 

1103
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,439
and took my dog and said that he
had pain, she wanted to know 

1104
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,279
exactly what supplement that 
was. 

1105
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,800
And you know, it was fine. 
She cleared it, but she had 

1106
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,120
never heard of it. 
You know what I mean? 

1107
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,560
Like she, she wasn't, she 
doesn't stock that she's not, 

1108
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:03,880
She has, you know, she has 
someone, one type of probiotic, 

1109
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,399
the one made by Purina in her 
office. 

1110
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,319
You know, she has maybe one more
nutraceutical from for liver 

1111
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:12,960
health that you can find, but 
that's it. 

1112
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:17,160
Like their, their, their timing 
and their, the scope is, is 

1113
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:20,359
beyond what they can do. 
So not, no hate on 

1114
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:22,880
veterinarians. 
It's just not necessarily like 

1115
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,640
part of what they can offer. 
They're like every time I go to 

1116
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:31,000
a pediatrician, a paediatrician 
and we need something else, they

1117
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:35,520
send me to either a behavioral 
health specialist or a nutrition

1118
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,680
specialist or a sleep 
specialist, right? 

1119
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,080
Because they can only do so 
much. 

1120
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,200
And it's the same with our 
veterinarians, their primary 

1121
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,319
care and these, this is a 
specialization, diet is a 

1122
01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:47,479
specialization. 
It. 

1123
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,200
Yeah, it really is. 
It really, really is. 

1124
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,120
All right, well, we're over on 
our time this week. 

1125
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,960
Next week is. 
Oh, we're going to do 

1126
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,680
greenwashing. 
Next week is greenwashing on 

1127
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,600
Valentine's Day week. 
Valentine's Day week, we're 

1128
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:11,560
talking about greenwashing. 
So join us on Monday the 10th at

1129
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,720
3:00 PM Mountain Standard Time. 
That's 5:00 PM Eastern. 

1130
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,880
And we will talk about 
greenwashing, which I think is a

1131
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:24,000
really good segue for this 
because there's a lot of label 

1132
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,480
reading that means like all of 
us need to do it. 

1133
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:31,360
For everything, for sure 
there's, there's a lot there's. 

1134
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:31,720
A lot. 
All right. 

1135
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,520
Thank you guys for joining us. 
We'll see you next week. 

1136
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,800
All right. 
Bye, guys. 

1137
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:35,880
Bye.