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This episode of the pet 
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alive from earlier this year 
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I actually did it with Lauren 
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Health, which you guys are 
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her and you want her back on the
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She's amazing and I love her. 
We also had Karen Dindy Smith 

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go live earlier this year is 
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Lauren's channel and she 
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isn't this on your feed? 
So it was an incredible 

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conversation. 
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because with Karen Dandy Smith, 
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role that animals play in our 
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of when our animals pass away. 
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And because if you follow me on 
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Samantha, who I very 
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her whole life, we just lost 
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I just lost her after 17 years 
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I am still tearing up. 
Just like I can feel the tears 

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welling up in my eyes right now 
talking about it. 

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But I figured, OK, now must be 
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Sissy. 
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right time to put this episode 
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And it was an incredible 
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I don't want to. 
Talk too much. 

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We talk a lot in the episode. 
So here it is. 

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Lauren Becks from Girls Gone 
Raw, Pet Health and Karen Dindy 

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Smith from the Animal 
Communication Collective. 

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Of course, myself, Jessica with 
a pet parenting reset. 

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And yeah, guys, I just want to 
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before we dive in, I want to say
thank you to Legacy Biome for 

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sponsoring this week's podcast. 
If you know anything about 

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Legacy Biome or if you know 
anything about what I do as a 

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pet health coach, FNT is an 
important part. 

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It may not be the first thing we
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of what we do to maintain, to 
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often maintain a healthy gut 
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So stick around to the end. 
I'm going to tell you a little 

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bit more about Legacy Biome. 
I definitely want you to check 

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them out, legacy biome.com. 
But I will tell you a little bit

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more at the end of this podcast 
episode about Legacy. 

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I'm looking out for Jess. 
I've never done it with three 

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people, so. 
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I got to get myself settled 
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Here we go. 
Darby, I let Darwin come in and 

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join me today since he didn't 
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He'll be fucking stuff up. 
He's the one with like. 42 toes.

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Oh, he's so doors. 
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yourself at least we have quite 
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we're waiting for Jessica. 
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talked to her quite a bit. 
But give me a little bit of your

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background or our followers here
and all about you. 

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OK, well it's so funny watching.
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Well, it's really great to be 
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my name is Karen Dundy Smith. 
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an animal communicator, soul 
level animal communicator, which

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is a very particular type of 
animal communication, and also 

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soul level intuitive coach and a
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instructor and healer through 
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And I have a podcast with two of
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and Julie here called the Animal
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talk about all the animal 
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heard from the animals and share
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answer questions. 
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Well, I think it was cool. 
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there was so much. 
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background training and stuff? 
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of animal communicators was 
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or you're not. 
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pursued all that outside 
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mean, not that you need 
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your craft too. 
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who you are too, right? 
I'm I'm a person who wants to 

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six be measure my success. 
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school to go through a program 
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and test what I was getting and 
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because I had a community to 
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and test phone calls and on and 
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It's whether you want to. 
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to learn to do 100 sit ups? 
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stomach muscles and can do sit 
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I'm wondering if Jessica got 
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I just realized that this 
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we'll get around here soon. 
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I think that, like I said, it's 
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well, my animal communicator 
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authentic experience, especially
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to make sure that your time is 
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a lot of work. 
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session. 
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being. 
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I left it and I was like, I felt
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So it was, it was definitely a 
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have a lot of really cool topics
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One of the things I want to 
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talking to people about getting 
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obviously this is as soon as I 
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like countdown mode. 
I've been so excited for this 

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conversation. 
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coming, I was just so thrilled 
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like, I just don't believe in 
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And I'm like, OK, you know where
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you know, there's a lot of that 
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you're going to talk to ghosts. 
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something that we, we talked 
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conversation of like what gets 
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said, everybody's capable of it.
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Everybody's capable of it. 
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of gets in the way that makes us
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we are capable of here. 
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And that's something I want to 
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the conversation of maybe how do
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Hey here. 
We go gotcha. 

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We were just talking about kind 
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that doesn't know this is 
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She's a bigger deal than I am. 
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No. 
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that chit chats, but we've 
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personal friend and crunchy 
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Crunchy something crunchy, yes. 
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how there's kind of something 
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being willing to accept the kind
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signs from the universe or 
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stops us is our minds, right? 
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we've grown up and being 
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with all of our senses open. 
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the 3D senses that we have, that
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have these other senses which 
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more energetic level of hearing,
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tasting, smelling. 
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these things, and we don't have 
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we would like a lot of us when 
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experiences that we're having, 
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understood. 
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I think that was actually what 
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As I've told you pretty 
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old and it's hard to tell 
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Penny, Penny. 
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what Penny looks like? 
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She's in my heart. 
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have like this that'll go on for
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have to explain that, well, if 
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I just really miss Penny. 
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What the hell? 
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This is the cool thing, right? 
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4 year old talking about a 
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talking about it from a 
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wrapped up in it and physically 
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to ask him, what does it feel 
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that you, you as a mom, 
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experiencing. 
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asking those open-ended 
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she is in my heart. 
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my best to not Pooh Pooh at all,
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people absolutely mind blown 
because they're 345 year old kid

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things that they shouldn't even 
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closer to that soul connection 
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defensive armor that we build 
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ourselves from whatever it is, 
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that's what stops a lot of us 
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heaven or whatever. 
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to get your hopes up maybe or 
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individually. 
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like, you don't look like an 
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visited me in my sleep and 
everyone's like, no, you just 

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had a weird dream, you know? 
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But if I were to ask each of you
like what weird experience, we 

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would call it weird as adults, 
but it's not weird. 

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What experience did you have as 
a kid that you couldn't explain 

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but was not just you seeing a 
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someone? 
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that would happen. 
I could see like lights around 

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people, you know, auras around 
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night and make like light hands 
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was bored. 
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hands on the wall before I'd go 
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rock myself to sleep. 
Astral project. 

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Soothe myself so like it's some 
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Like I would lift myself up out 
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spin it back and forth till I 
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Yeah, I, I'm trying to think 
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That's yeah, that's pretty cool.
I feel like I just always was 

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like super ultra connected to my
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It was always just my dogs, you 
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believed in. 
What about you, Jessica? 

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Have you had any? 
Can you hear me OK? 

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Yeah, OK. 
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like what what I'm thinking 
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one yes, I think we see it a lot
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reason, like you brought up 
Lauren, that like they're closer

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to source, having like been 
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time of birth, transitioning 
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in and into this one. 
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popped up for me is the the fact
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gone to such great lengths to 
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than men just because of the 
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suppression of femininity, of 
the role that women have and the

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connection that women have to 
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source or life. 
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know, we're the only ones that 
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suppression and in the 
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the US and I think in most first
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suppress very intentionally 
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anything that is outside of the 
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member of society and pay your 
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suppressed and, and look down 
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And so I know for me, like even 
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I'm the oldest. 
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My gosh. 
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saying that every oldest child 
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Obviously we don't, but I do 
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responsibility placed on me at a
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of me, like the intuitive, like 
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with in, in my adult life. 
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suppressed that even to this 
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exercises to try to remember my 
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because I went for so long, like
either not dreaming or just not 

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remembering what my dreams are. 
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me, that's kind of a more 
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especially like a reason as to 
why we we do kind of other the 

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idea of intuition and anything 
supernatural is because we have 

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feminine. 
Yeah, they've been suppressed 

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very intentionally. 
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what actually her and I were 
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be something cool for the three 
of us to talk about on our 

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kombucha podcast. 
But is I feel like you have the 

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the topic of divine feminine, 
divine phenomenon, divine 

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masculine is like came in and 
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adulterated by the mainstream 
TikTok community and stuff like 

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that. 
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almost there. 
Like it came in really honestly 

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And I think it can be such a 
strong thing. 

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And I think that'd be a really 
cool topic to talk about on our 

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other side of things. 
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And like, you do see, I mean, 
Karen, do you know any male 

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communicators? 
Cuz I feel like I have not seen.

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Yeah, I have not seen. 
No, I do, absolutely. 

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I do. 
And you're. 

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The guy that you trained with? 
Well, animal communicators is 

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different than energy masters or
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my teacher Paul Frazier and our 
teacher Master Owen Way, Master 

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Owen Way is an animal 
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communicates with everything he 
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He communicates freely with 
great nature and great nature 

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encompasses the planet, the 
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And he has had full on 
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bees and asked them to leave the
property when people are coming 

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and they do. 
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eating his plants and they do. 
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please don't show yourself on my
property when there are visitors

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because you'll scare them and 
they don't. 

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And so and I, and we've had 
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him and watch the ducks follow 
him as he's singing along the 

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the river because he's singing 
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So it's really it's he's he's 
incredible. 

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He's he's kind of my mind 
blowing example. 

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Can you guys hear me? 
I can't. 

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Yeah, I can hear Karen. 
I can't hear Lauren anymore. 

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No, I can't hear Lauren anymore 
either. 

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What happened with Lauren? 
Where'd you go? 

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Well, and I I think just to kind
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saying, like, I don't that that 
whole topic of like feminine and

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masculine. 
I don't it's not a gender thing.

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I think it is. 
So, you know, having that having

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that conversation of like, of 
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source as. 
Well and do all the things and I

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think it is something that women
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I would say in this culture, 
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culture, it's pretty equal and, 
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thousands and thousands of 
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You know, if you look at the 
Marshall trainings and and the 

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in medicinal trainings, this is 
all it's, it's it's equal. 

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It's more, it's more about yin 
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female, which yin and Yang are 
male, right? 

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Internal and external fit 
movement and intern like so 

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containing and releasing. 
So when you think about that 

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from a, if you want to label 
those male and female, but have 

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both when we are male, we have 
both when we're female. 

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And it's about cultivating 
equally both so that you can 

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work with both and keep harmony.
So yes, that's really. 

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Weird trying to say. 
Yeah, you just said it better. 

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Lauren, are you back? 
I'm back. 

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Is your sound back? 
Yeah I got like 3 calls in a row

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and it like muted me and I just 
had to close everything and get 

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back. 
OK sorry about that. 

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Hopefully I didn't miss too 
much, but yeah. 

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So I don't know if you want to 
if you were in the middle of a 

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topic, but I figured. 
So both Jessica and I have had 

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readings by you and I thought 
it'd be kind of cool to talk 

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about some of the things that we
kind of got in that. 

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I just want to say I thought it 
was so funny. 

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You came right off the bat. 
And my cat Marnie was not even, 

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I didn't intend to have her as 
part of the conversation. 

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And she just kind of like was 
laying on my lap at the time and

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refused to go away. 
So you're like, let's let's see 

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if she wants to talk. 
And like right off the bat, you 

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pretty much like nailed her. 
And I was like, not saying 

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anything, not saying anything. 
You're like seem like with the 

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eyes, I'm having some pain. 
She's very like got tight 

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boundaries. 
And I was like, and I just 

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thought that was so funny. 
I feel like what, what did she 

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say? 
Something about relegating 

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distance and wanting to kind of 
gain power by by staying up at a

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higher part. 
And so Marnie is my blind cat, 

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and she has a history of kind of
sensitivity. 

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She's like the cat that I'm 
like, you know what it's? 

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Just. 
Better if you decide, all right,

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it's just better if you just 
leave her alone, right. 

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And I feel bad because she's 
like, as soon as somebody walks 

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in the door, she will be the 
first one there to to greet 

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them. 
But then if you touch her the 

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wrong way, she's like, hey, you 
shit. 

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And she'll like bite you. 
And I'm always like trying to 

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explain to people I'm like, I 
know, like they're like, well, 

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she wants attention. 
And I just, I feel like that 

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conversation we had about her, I
was like, I because your, your 

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big thing was like no judgement 
language. 

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Like don't call her a jerk. 
Don't say she's like, you know, 

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because a lot of people would be
like, Oh yeah, she's kind of a 

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bitch. 
And I'm like, she's not, you 

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know? 
She has her reasons and this is 

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the, this is the thing that I've
learned so clearly from the 

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animals. 
Every action, every reaction, 

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every behavior, there's a reason
behind it. 

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There's no premeditated malice 
or negativity planning going on 

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in their heads the way that we 
have in our heads. 

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So if she's over stimulated or 
somebody's energy is too strong 

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for her, which is what we talked
about is she'll come up to check

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everyone out and wants to be in 
your field and and be around 

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you. 
But we immediately all of our 

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energy goes hey, and it's like a
dagger at her because she's so 

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sensitive because her site is 
off. 

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So she's her radars are so 
strong that she over sensitizes 

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the hey, you're so cute and it 
and it's like almost too much 

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static coming at her, which is 
why she has to say enough. 

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So yeah, yeah, it's, it's really
interesting how we we humanize 

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and not a good way our animals 
behaviors. 

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Yeah, I feel like it's almost 
like, yeah, the dog people 

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coming in at the cats, and I 
feel like cats get a bad rap 

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because of that because they 
have a lot of boundaries. 

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I have a couple cats like Darwin
does not know a boundary from, 

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you know what I mean? 
He has no sense of space. 

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But cats, if you like, get a bad
rap because of that. 

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And I know that we all are crazy
cat ladies here, but I get a lot

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of people that I'm like, oh, 
what kind of pets do you have? 

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And they're like, you know, we 
have a blue heeler, We have a 

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cattle dog. 
And then I'm like, any cats? 

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They're like, oh, yeah, we have 
a cat, too. 

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And they just kind of those. 
Poor cats relegated to the back.

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I know. 
And I'm like, well, tell me 

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about your cat. 
Well, he's just kind of picky. 

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He's just kind of this night. 
And I think that they get a bad 

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rap because of that. 
They're so. 

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They can tend to be private. 
I saw a name the other day that 

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was about like dating advice, 
but it was like, if a man 

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doesn't like cats, that's the 
biggest red flag ever because he

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doesn't know how to respect 
boundaries. 

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If you're watching this, I'm not
kidding. 

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Well, and here's the thing. 
It's about reading subtlety. 

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With cats, it's every, it's, 
it's about understanding 

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subtlety. 
They are so intuitive and they 

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are so attached to energy and 
spirit. 

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Their or their energy bodies are
so much bigger than their 

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regular bodies. 
All of ours are. 

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But they are aware of their 
edges, so. 

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I thought I said something like 
on Jessica on your topic, like 

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men hate cats because they have 
women energy or is it because 

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they have man energy or 
something like that? 

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They're like sensitive and I I 
saw very. 

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Spiritual, like I think I told 
you this or I think I asked you 

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this when I had you on my 
podcast, Karen, because I for 

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whatever, like I've come to the 
conclusion that like cats are 

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like are spiritual guides in 
this world. 

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I feel like, and dogs are here 
to teach us unconditional love 

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00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,520
And like that's just in my mind.
That's what I believe and I I 

445
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,400
just. 
But I would. 

446
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,480
Actually say you're on the right
path, but I would say that all 

447
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,360
animals if they're in your 
presence and connected to you in

448
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,360
any way are teaching you 
something about what 

449
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:50,320
unconditional Love Actually 
means right. 

450
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,920
Because there's no job, there's 
there isn't judgement. 

451
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,080
And so they operate, they 
operate from what we would call 

452
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,360
this place of my teacher Paul 
Frazier will be so proud of me 

453
00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:05,440
using the word PO spirit, which 
it's kind of our essential 

454
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:11,080
spirit where we are so very much
in tune with the now and what 

455
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,440
moving with the flow of life. 
So if you're in real presence 

456
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,400
and you're holding space fairly 
and equally and without 

457
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,640
judgement, then you're really 
operating from a place of 

458
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,400
unconditional love. 
Because no matter what comes at 

459
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,920
you, whatever somebody does, no 
matter what they say, if you're 

460
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,880
in presence with sensing them 
and not judging them, then 

461
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,920
you're holding space for them 
and you're an unconditional 

462
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,560
love. 
And so all the all animals 

463
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,800
operate from that vibration. 
Yeah, They do it in different 

464
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,840
ways though. 
I feel like I could go on a 

465
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,880
tangent about that. 
Like why are humans so averse to

466
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,320
unconditional love? 
Is it just the ego that we've 

467
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,040
built up over time? 
And then why are animals not 

468
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,640
capable of developing ego? 
Don't come in with that piece of

469
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,520
their of the spirit. 
They don't carry that as 

470
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,840
baggage. 
Don't we do animals like so say 

471
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,080
you get a pit bull or a rescue 
dog. 

472
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,080
I don't know why I singled out 
pit bulls, but say you get a 

473
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,440
rescue and then they have that 
very hard shelf or shell that 

474
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,960
you kind of have to crack 
through so you can find that 

475
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,040
that good dog in the middle. 
Would you consider that like an 

476
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,960
ego or is that just kind of like
a trauma? 

477
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,040
Because I think a. 
Trauma. 

478
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,480
Yeah. 
Because ego would. 

479
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,640
It's not necessarily the ego and
what we think of ego. 

480
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,680
Ego is more I don't want to 
botch this you know I'm we're 

481
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:45,720
talking we're riffing people Ego
is I OK I'm strategizing how to 

482
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440
operate and manipulate myself in
this world. 

483
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,040
So not this doesn't happen to me
or so that you can't do X to me 

484
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,400
or so that I can get ahead about
Y. 

485
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,360
And for an animal, if from our 
perspective, right, if we get if

486
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,040
we get abused when we're kids, 
it's a terrible topic, but 

487
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,440
right, we're talking about 
rescue animals. 

488
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,120
So they we're talking about 
abuse on some level from a human

489
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,760
perspective. 
If we get abused, we start to 

490
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,160
change our perception of the 
world. 

491
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,720
And no matter what you say to 
me, no matter how nice you are 

492
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,640
to me, I don't believe you. 
And I carry this with me as part

493
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,680
of my identity. 
So it's really different for an 

494
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,560
animal who they have had a 
trauma or abuse in their life 

495
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,280
and the energy of it has 
affected them. 

496
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,640
But they also in a place where 
if you repeatedly show me and 

497
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,760
you, you, you bring love and 
energy to me, I will heal and I 

498
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,200
will let that go and I will not 
carry it as baggage. 

499
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,000
You know, that's why we see some
and we see some animals, a lot 

500
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,520
of the ones from rescue who are,
you know, have people have the 

501
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,720
patience to bring out of their 
shell. 

502
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,840
You're like, jeez, you'd never 
know that what they went through

503
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,160
three years ago. 
Look at them. 

504
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,760
You know, he's so happy and he's
he's so happy because he's not 

505
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,640
resentful of the past. 
They don't carry resentment the 

506
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,440
way that we do in our egos. 
I guess that's a maybe. 

507
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,840
That's a good way to say it. 
Yeah, it's a tough one because 

508
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,960
I, I don't know, I specifically 
love the dogs that are just 

509
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,760
like, I don't know why Like is 
this like a savior complex on my

510
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,240
side that I love the dogs like 
Sunshine that are so shut down 

511
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,120
and afraid of their own parts 
because I feel like I have this,

512
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,640
I have like a patience for that 
versus the dogs that are like 

513
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,760
more reactive and stuff like 
that. 

514
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,000
I'm just kind of like, I don't 
know, I don't know here. 

515
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,320
This is like a different and 
some people are so good at that 

516
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,040
and don't have the patience for 
like mill moms and the really 

517
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,760
shut down, really submissive 
dogs. 

518
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,880
I can work wonders on a 
submissive dog, but you give me 

519
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,000
a reactive dog and I'm like, you
gotta take it back. 

520
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,320
I just I can't help you here. 
I'm kind of reactive too and. 

521
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,400
Well, there you go. 
That's probably why you and 

522
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,040
reactive dot, what they do is 
they they bring out, they 

523
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,560
trigger you the stuff that's 
making you reactive, they 

524
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,200
mirroring you where because 
you're you're more of a reactive

525
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,600
person and you want to bring out
the soft, you want to bring out 

526
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,280
the soft one. 
It's it's kind of a nice it's 

527
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,720
like yin and Yang. 
Yeah. 

528
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,480
Interesting. 
The opposite is the tract kind 

529
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,320
of thing. 
Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting. 

530
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,280
And I do think that I mean for 
any of us that have, I guess, 

531
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,800
and if anybody is watching that 
feels like they have a type and 

532
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,480
rescue, let me know what it is 
and if you think that it has any

533
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,040
correlation to your personality.
Because I do see myself. 

534
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,480
I'm like, if it's not injured or
if it's not terrified, I don't 

535
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,200
want it. 
You know what I mean? 

536
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,680
And then every now and then 
they'll be like sweet, little 

537
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,520
sweet Angel Beagle and I'll get 
this Beagle and it's like an 

538
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,400
absolute nightmare. 
And I'm like, you're not meshing

539
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,880
because yeah, Sunshine was like 
my 22nd foster or something like

540
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,040
that. 
I miss it. 

541
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,520
So we talked. 
About sunshine, right? 

542
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,920
And why? 
How sunshine came to you. 

543
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,840
Yeah. 
And yeah, the whole thing I'm 

544
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,640
just trying to work on. 
I just keep thinking about 

545
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,400
patience with her because what 
did she say? 

546
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,840
She said I'm just slow or 
something like that. 

547
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,040
And I'm like. 
I didn't even know my own pace. 

548
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,080
Everything is at her pace. 
Oh right, she was talking about 

549
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,480
eating and wanting to eat really
slowly and not be bothered when 

550
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,840
she was eating right? 
So that's what I'm thinking 

551
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,400
about, like giving her a 
separate section off or 

552
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,920
something, because I'm like 
thinking about that. 

553
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,200
Like she eats like a Hoover, you
know what I mean? 

554
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:35,360
Like just but I think that's the
result of coming out of that 

555
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,160
wording situation. 
I think that she didn't slurp 

556
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,600
her food down and as soon as if 
she's getting into something in 

557
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,800
the trash, the cat poop, the 
your food, whatever it is, you 

558
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,440
look at her, she just eats 
faster. 

559
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:52,240
And because I think she she's 
never three years later, you'd 

560
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,680
think that she'd feel safe never
taken food away from that dog 

561
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,600
except for well, I yell at her 
when she's eating my son's 

562
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,760
dinner that I just made. 
But I think that's pretty valid.

563
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,960
Would she? 
Is she saying that she wants to 

564
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,640
be able to eat slow? 
You know what I mean? 

565
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,040
Yeah, she doesn't want to have 
to guard herself while she's 

566
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,480
eating. 
Yeah, cuz she's like this big 

567
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,520
and is she smaller than my cats?
Honestly, she's not that she's 

568
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,680
normal, but she's smaller than 
the cats and even like the cats 

569
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,600
will try to come get her food 
and. 

570
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,960
So can you see why she's like, I
just, I want to be, I want to 

571
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,200
eat at my page. 
About. 

572
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,160
Would she, would she be OK if 
you like put her in her in a 

573
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,040
crate to let her eat in there So
she's just like doesn't? 

574
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,600
Like about putting her like in 
my room so that she can take her

575
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,120
time. 
I'm just afraid that she'll like

576
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,720
poop in my room while she's out.
I know because usually like 

577
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,800
they're they're both old and 
scarlet. 

578
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,760
If you don't let her out, like, 
immediately, as long as that 

579
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,520
last bite goes in her mouth, 
she's peeing. 

580
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,640
And so I'm like, everybody 
immediately goes outside. 

581
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,280
Sunshine wanders her way down to
Wilder's room and poops on his 

582
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,560
cute little rugs. 
No, she'd probably be fine. 

583
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,240
But that's what I have, a 
elevated bowl, kind of one of 

584
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,000
those, like, pedestal bowls for 
cats that we're going to try 

585
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,520
with her. 
I've just been kind of propping 

586
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,000
it up on a Tupperware because 
that's what she said. 

587
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,639
She wanted the bowl to be raised
because her neck was hurting and

588
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:19,400
she wants to eat slow. 
Yeah, and I thought that was 

589
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,400
cool too, that the the soul 
level connection because I was 

590
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,719
like, and another thing that 
really wanted me to get here and

591
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,120
we'll kind of get more into the 
like soul mates. 

592
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,960
I don't feel like in the at 
least in the way that we would 

593
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,120
think of. 
I don't do. 

594
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Can you have multiple soul 
mates? 

595
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,840
I don't know. 
I feel like when we think about 

596
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,120
it, you think you can only have 
one. 

597
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,400
So I was like, well, she can't 
be my soul mate because I think 

598
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,679
Belle was my soul mate and I 
feel very strong about that. 

599
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:52,560
And Bell was, yeah, it was, it 
was almost exactly year to the 

600
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,840
date. 
I didn't know at the time that 

601
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,320
Bell would pass away. 
And I had seen a picture of 

602
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,520
Sunshine. 
I had another. 

603
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,560
I had that annoying Beagle, God 
bless her foster at the time. 

604
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,840
And my rescue that I was working
with had posted and this is only

605
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,800
I just started fostering like 
maybe a month before and they 

606
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,400
had pulled 10 dogs from a case 
in Scioto County by us out of a 

607
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,320
House of 30. 
And I saw a picture of this 

608
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,600
greasy little dog in the back. 
Like I think I barely even saw a

609
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,680
profile of her. 
And I was like. 

610
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,200
Who's that? 
Black 1 you know what I mean? 

611
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,680
Like there is something that was
a laser beam to her. 

612
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,200
And I was like, I had like a 2 
year old at the time and was 

613
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,520
living at my parents house and 
you know, starting a small 

614
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,520
business is not big money. 
So I was at the absolute most 

615
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,680
uncomfortable place to adopt A 
dog, which is why I was 

616
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,800
fostering, let alone an A senior
dog with known health issues. 

617
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,280
And I just had this like laser 
beam connection that as soon I 

618
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,800
had to get that dog and I like 
just like couldn't wait to go 

619
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,520
visit her. 
And she crawled in my lap right 

620
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,680
away and she was so grubby and 
scabby and greasy. 

621
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,960
And then I was like, I need this
dog. 

622
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:03,480
So I, like, moved all sorts of 
stuff around, got her as a 

623
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,240
Foster and immediately was like,
Oh my God, I'm so obsessed with 

624
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:09,080
her. 
She's the most perfect baby 

625
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,920
Angel. 
And then I ended up adopting 

626
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,320
her. 
I was looking at photo stamps, 

627
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,760
that or time stamps on photos. 
I adopted her like, exactly a 

628
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,720
year and one day before my 
chocolate lab, who I believe is 

629
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:23,640
my soul mate, or at least, you 
know, passed away. 

630
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,600
And I don't think that I could 
have made it through that if I 

631
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,200
hadn't had that time to develop 
that bond with Sunshine. 

632
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,960
Because yeah, Belle was my, 
like, she was my rock, you know?

633
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,600
And we had a lot of really cool 
conversations about Belle. 

634
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,080
And I am not going to cry this 
time, but I just think it's cool

635
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,320
because then you think like, 
well, she can't be my soul mate 

636
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,560
because my soul mate was still 
alive. 

637
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,360
And so I thought that would be 
kind of something we can talk 

638
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:59,520
about a little bit. 
So what we call like the string 

639
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,680
theory or something like that. 
And I love the like diagram that

640
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,040
you told me kind of little Venn 
diagram of. 

641
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,280
Yeah, it was really, it's really
cool. 

642
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,960
And the first time I saw it, I 
think I was reading somebody's 

643
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,200
cat and they're talking about 
their other lives. 

644
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,840
And they showed me this diagram 
where they were this ball of 

645
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,520
light and they were in spirit 
already. 

646
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,600
And so they were looking at, I 
don't know if they were 

647
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,840
actually. 
No, I think they were in spirit.

648
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,880
And they were showing me this 
ball of light that they were, 

649
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,840
which is their essence, right? 
Your soul's essence, that the, 

650
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,680
that spark, I'll call it that 
travels out. 

651
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,120
Yeah, kind of like that. 
And they saw themselves in all 

652
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:48,160
of their different iterations of
existence in attached to each 

653
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,680
ring as it went out from them in
like 3D. 

654
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,440
And then they showed me how each
of our lawn, each of our sparks 

655
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,840
has this and then intersects in 
these crazy intersections where 

656
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,080
we're supposed to meet up to 
have lessons learned. 

657
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,960
And in the center of all of 
these rings of light that are 

658
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,040
going all over the place like 
this is your true essence. 

659
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,800
That is looking at the Karen 
experience, though, when I was 

660
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,000
the painter in Venice 
experience, when I was, you 

661
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,160
know, The Cave woman woman 
experience. 

662
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:23,880
And when we go back to what they
say wholeness, it's like they 

663
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,920
can see and understand. 
We all actually can see and 

664
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,960
understand like our our fullness
and for our. 

665
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,880
People that are watching here, 
we're kind of talking about like

666
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,720
cycles of reincarnation. 
So you have, I'll bring up my 

667
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,880
little rough drawing here that 
you know, like it's a good 

668
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,640
little drawing. 
Your soul basically is your, 

669
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,880
your spirit. 
And then these are kind of the 

670
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,760
the levels of reincarnation and 
eventually you'd intersect with 

671
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,760
those other souls as they are in
their lives. 

672
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,280
Hundreds and hundreds of those 
intersects intersecting like 

673
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:00,320
that in the in like space. 
Yeah, I just think that's so 

674
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,480
cool. 
I've not been able to stop 

675
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:07,240
thinking about that. 
And, and I just think that 

676
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,880
that's so cool. 
Reincarnation was one of those 

677
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,000
things because I mean, I was, I 
was raised staunchly Catholic 

678
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,560
and it was like world religions 
class. 

679
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,720
And they are definitely very 
sorry for any Catholics on here,

680
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:23,920
but very anti animals in heaven.
And I was like, I'm not going 

681
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,200
then. 
I'm going wherever my dogs go 

682
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,720
and drop me off at the Rainbow 
Bridge. 

683
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,040
Lauren I So I was bounced back 
and forth between Pentecostal 

684
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,560
and Baptist churches when I was 
younger. 

685
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,480
And I, that is one of my core 
memories is talking to one of my

686
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,920
like Bible study teachers when I
was like, I had to have been 

687
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:50,400
like 8 years old. 
And she was teaching the all 

688
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,440
these little kids in Sunday 
school about, you know, going to

689
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,480
heaven and all these different 
like levels and that she said 

690
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:01,280
animals, our animals were not 
there. 

691
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,200
We're where we are in heaven. 
And I went up to her and I said.

692
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,920
I like, I remember for this so 
clearly I was like, there aren't

693
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,640
animals in heaven. 
And she said, no, no, you don't.

694
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:13,640
We don't. 
We don't need them. 

695
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,240
And I was like, well then I 
don't want. 

696
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:18,160
To go to heaven and I remember. 
Like 9th. 

697
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,880
Grade Old Testament class, 
Brother Tom. 

698
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,080
And they they were, they were on
the topic of how animals don't 

699
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,720
go to heaven. 
And I stood up and I said, 

700
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,720
you're telling me that if dogs 
don't go? 

701
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:34,080
And I got up and I left class. 
Yeah, praise go. 

702
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,440
Well in Catholic school, it was 
a lovely Catholic school, I will

703
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,400
say. 
But I got up and left because I 

704
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,880
was like, I just have a hard 
time with that. 

705
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,120
Yeah. 
So that's where. 

706
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,840
How who are we to say honest to 
honestly, no matter what I what 

707
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:53,040
I'm getting from an animal is 
what my human sized capacity of 

708
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,120
expansion can handle, right? 
So that's why I would never say 

709
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,000
that even though I'm getting 
what I'm getting, that I'm the 

710
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,680
end all be all because you, you,
Steve, like we get these tiny 

711
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,360
little peeks behind the veil, 
right, of true creation. 

712
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,000
Whatever you want to think that 
is. 

713
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,200
I don't know what that actually 
is, but whatever you want to 

714
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,920
think it is, we get these tiny 
little glimpses. 

715
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,400
And to say that it we know best 
or that that's the way is crazy.

716
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,680
Yeah, and that's always been 
something I had a hard time with

717
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,520
because I'm like, to me, 
reincarnation and thinking about

718
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,000
that, maybe maybe it's just my 
optimism. 

719
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,680
Maybe it's just something that I
wish is true because I think it 

720
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,960
sounds great. 
You kind of learn a lesson and 

721
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,440
then maybe you get to go back 
and and live that lesson the 

722
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,320
next time. 
But also, I don't know, it's 

723
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,320
just something that is always, 
it's been as true to me as 

724
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,120
breathing air, you know what I 
mean? 

725
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,800
And that's not ever something 
that I've second guessed. 

726
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,400
And it's hard, obviously having 
that question. 

727
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,640
I don't want to get too into 
religion because I don't want to

728
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,040
get cancelled here. 
But it's just, I have a lot of 

729
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,680
yeah, I have a lot of feelings 
on that because, yeah. 

730
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:10,720
How do you know? 
And all I know is that I have 

731
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,800
felt this connection to these 
animals and and I we can can go 

732
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,320
to the kind of like soulmate 
thing. 

733
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,720
Now, I don't think that I knew 
that Belle was my soulmate. 

734
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,440
She was just like, she was just 
my special little dog. 

735
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,400
And I wish I could pull the 
picture of her, but the time of 

736
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,040
her passing. 
So it was, gosh, I had just met 

737
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:41,720
my now partner and, and I think 
I told you this is This is why 

738
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,720
what you said kind of like all 
clicked in. 

739
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,440
I just met my partner after 
years of kind of tumultuous, 

740
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,600
really just trying to find 
myself and messing up and then 

741
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,000
learning lessons and messing up 
and learning lessons. 

742
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:01,760
And she was just kind of that 
like stable kind rock there for 

743
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,520
me the whole time. 
And like I used to have 

744
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,640
crippling panic attacks. 
And so she lived with me for a 

745
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,560
couple years as my like 
emotional support dog. 

746
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,720
You know why I quote? 
Because, like, I don't think I 

747
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:16,640
could have done it without her. 
And I learned so much from her, 

748
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,600
even through her cancer and her 
sickness. 

749
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,880
This company exists because of 
that dog. 

750
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,520
Yeah. 
Because I mean, I exist in this 

751
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,840
iteration of myself in this 
profession because of my cat 

752
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,640
hockey puck so. 
Yeah, and the people that don't 

753
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,080
see dogs, I guess though, or at 
least even pets the way that we 

754
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,800
do would be like, that's so 
silly. 

755
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,600
But honestly, screw you because 
that's it's, it's I know that I 

756
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,560
would not be where I am today 
without that dog, or at least 

757
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,840
without, you know, her kind of 
holding me together throughout 

758
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,560
the times I need her because I 
had her from like 16 to 20 

759
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,160
because maybe 2829. 
And that was the craziest couple

760
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,080
years of my life, you know, 
going through an abusive 

761
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,400
relationship and then leaving, 
having to learn how to be 

762
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,320
myself, having to learn, really 
try to find my purpose. 

763
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:12,360
And then I feel like I've really
just fallen into routine and 

764
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,360
things were just starting to get
good. 

765
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:21,040
And then she developed a 
cancerous tumor and everything 

766
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,200
just kind of went really quickly
from there. 

767
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,600
Not really long enough that I 
had time to kind of deal with 

768
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:32,040
this situation in the healthy 
pace, I think, and even the 

769
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,720
whole process of her passing, I 
feel like I learned so much 

770
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:39,360
because all I want to do now is 
help people achieve that kind of

771
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,280
peace with their dogs. 
I know that's not always dogs, 

772
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,720
cats, horses, you know, that's 
not always possible. 

773
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,880
But I very much looking back at 
him like, God, it's almost like 

774
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,880
she got me to the door and she 
was like, hey, you're good. 

775
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,320
I'm chills thinking about it. 
And that was one of the things 

776
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:01,320
that you said, even without even
really getting to that, you 

777
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,360
said, like she said, it was time
to move on. 

778
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,440
We will again. 
And I really just got chilled. 

779
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,800
Now. 
I know I really just got that 

780
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,200
feeling that like she was like, 
hey, you're good now, you don't 

781
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,960
need me. 
God, I'm going to cry again. 

782
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,000
And it's, it's one of those 
things that it's hard to 

783
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,640
understand unless you have lived
those exact experiences. 

784
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,400
But I also have gone through and
I'm like, I'm not, I'm going to 

785
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,160
see her again in some form. 
And it wasn't something I, I 

786
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,800
feel pretty strongly that it's 
not like I wish I could have her

787
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,240
back. 
I wish I could have her back. 

788
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:43,840
Yeah, obviously I miss her, but 
I just felt like we were, we had

789
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,400
that string, like we've been 
together through lives. 

790
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,800
We're supposed to find each 
other. 

791
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,680
I was supposed to be at that 
event with this. 

792
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,080
If I hadn't had Leah, then we 
wouldn't have been at that dog 

793
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,160
diving event where I would have 
met her litter. 

794
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,040
And then we adopted her that 
day, you know? 

795
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,280
And that's really what drove me.
That and the combination of my 

796
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:05,880
son being so fixated on all 
these past dogs of mine that 

797
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,600
drove me to want to have this 
conversation because I feel like

798
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,320
so often people are like, oh, 
she's my soul dog, my heart dog.

799
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:16,520
But then if you try to like, 
take it a little bit deeper, you

800
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,360
get a little poo pooed on. 
And I feel like I think I 

801
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,760
mentioned this to both of you, 
it's almost like I want to be 

802
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,840
able to give permission to 
people to think deeper into that

803
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,800
and maybe follow like pull that 
string into the dark a little 

804
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,320
bit, you know? 
Like why? 

805
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,640
The question is like, why, why 
is, why is this particular 

806
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,400
animal your soul baby or your 
heart baby or your, you know, 

807
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,920
your guiding light? 
There's, there's a real reason 

808
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,720
there. 
So and what they're doing for 

809
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:50,680
you, you must, you need, you 
know, whether whatever kind of 

810
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,400
behavior they're taking on so 
that you have to take care of 

811
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,520
yourself better or be more 
conscious or feel more loved or 

812
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,760
feel more seen. 
There's something that they're 

813
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,720
doing for you that you 
desperately need and that you're

814
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:09,000
syncing up at the perfect time 
so that you can also evolve and 

815
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,520
grow. 
And I think that for anybody 

816
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,680
that's on here, for anybody that
listens to this, if you feel 

817
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,760
like you have an animal that you
had or currently have that kind 

818
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,280
of connection with, take a 
second to think about what 

819
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,120
lessons have you learned from 
that animal? 

820
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,640
What, what coincidences have 
there been, if there have been 

821
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,120
any? 
Because I know for me there was 

822
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,400
a lot. 
And one of the first things you 

823
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,440
said to me was there are no 
coincidences. 

824
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,640
And I really believe that. 
And I don't want to go too deep 

825
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,040
in it because it's not my story 
to tell. 

826
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,040
But even my brother-in-law had 
passed away from a sarcoma in 

827
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,400
his leg. 
And then his dog who was very 

828
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,880
much his like twin flame, as far
as I've heard, passed away from 

829
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,440
a very similar cancer also in 
her leg. 

830
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,480
And I'm like, that's not 
coincidence. 

831
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,800
And I don't think it's the bad 
thing. 

832
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,240
I don't think it's, I, I think a
lot of times we get stuck in 

833
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:08,040
the, in the suck of the 
transition. 

834
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,920
Yep. 
But if you, if you think about 

835
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:16,040
it, it's, I think it's, it's not
that bad, especially if you 

836
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,960
think about like that was just 
the end of this lesson. 

837
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,280
Now we move on to the next 
chapter, kind of things like 

838
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,520
that. 
And that's why I like trying to 

839
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,440
help people work through passing
of pets. 

840
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,280
And to me, it's not a depressing
conversation. 

841
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,400
Nobody seems to want to talk 
about it, but I think that 

842
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,840
there's a lot of beauty in it 
too, especially if you can take 

843
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,880
the time to think about what 
lessons you've learned from that

844
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,120
animal and what they've done for
you through your life. 

845
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,520
And I got real deep, but I think
the way. 

846
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,000
You're honoring them, right, 
with thanking them for embodying

847
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,040
and aligning with you so that 
you guys could have these 

848
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,800
experiences in this particular 
moment. 

849
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,240
So yeah, you can. 
Of course we're sad because 

850
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:00,680
we're here and they're not 
anymore, right? 

851
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,160
There's this, there's this 
division that happens because 

852
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,600
they exist now on a plane that 
we we don't, we don't have full 

853
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,440
access to while we're here. 
So we do miss them. 

854
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,400
And that is really sad when 
there's no getting around that 

855
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,000
no matter how much you know, 
whether you can speak to them, 

856
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,680
feel them, see their auras, even
though they're not in a body, 

857
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,640
you're still missing the 3D 
experience. 

858
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,160
And that, you know, having that 
grief is just part of this 

859
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:32,080
actual learning in 3D is to have
that grief experience as well. 

860
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,000
But you can honor them at the 
same time, which is which is 

861
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,760
what you're saying. 
And that helps with the grief. 

862
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,640
It helps with why it was time 
for them to let go or be come 

863
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,040
free again. 
Or because they never say I'm 

864
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,720
dying to me. 
Honestly, they've never used 

865
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:53,080
those words. 
Yeah, like you said, it was just

866
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,720
it was time to go. 
It's time to move on. 

867
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,520
And Jessica, I was going to say 
feel free to butt it. 

868
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,320
And I feel like we just. 
Yeah, you get a lot of. 

869
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,080
Ground up too, Jess so. 
Well, I find that comforting, 

870
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:15,840
the idea that it's not like gone
forever, right? 

871
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:22,480
That, that in some capacity we 
each helped each other. 

872
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:29,760
And I think so when Karen, you 
did a reading for me, for my cat

873
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:36,040
Romeo, who was alive at the time
and he has since passed. 

874
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:43,440
And it was, there were so many 
things from that session that 

875
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,400
has stuck with me. 
The one thing, and I don't think

876
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:52,800
I've told you this, at the time,
you said something about his 

877
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,680
back leg bothering him, but, and
I completely dismissed it 

878
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,520
because I'm like, he's fine. 
There's nothing wrong with him. 

879
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:07,720
And a few months later it is 
when he he broke his leg and 

880
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:09,960
that's when I found out he had 
osteosarcoma. 

881
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,880
And so that was like in that. 
Moment when I standing my notes.

882
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:20,360
Yeah, when I found that when I 
took him to get the X-ray, I, 

883
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,120
which by the way, was not an 
easy thing to do. 

884
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,800
Nobody wanted to X-ray him. 
It was crazy. 

885
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,560
But I found a vet that would do 
it. 

886
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,200
And I, he pulled up the X-ray in
front of me and I looked at it 

887
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,320
and he was like, he didn't know 
how to tell me that my cat had 

888
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,440
osteosarcoma. 
But I'm looking at this X-ray 

889
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,840
and like, tears started to come 
down my face and I'm, I'm 

890
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,320
looking at it as not a 
veterinarian. 

891
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,960
And I'm like, Oh my God, he has 
osteosarcoma. 

892
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,000
And I'm, and, and the, the vet 
just shook his head at me. 

893
00:51:54,560 --> 00:52:01,400
And so that was like, oh, my 
first of all, Oh my gosh. 

894
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:05,080
Now everything that I was 
already feeling from that 

895
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:11,280
session that we had together, I,
I felt like, almost like it was 

896
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,160
OK for me to, to believe it and 
have all these feelings because 

897
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,720
I had something physically come 
of it. 

898
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,040
So I wanted to mention that just
in case there are people that 

899
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,320
are still like, I don't know, 
like, and, and that's your right

900
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,160
to think that this stuff is all 
woo woo and you don't, if you 

901
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,920
don't want to accept it, don't 
accept it. 

902
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,160
That's, you know, part of your 
journey. 

903
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:40,000
But the thing that stuck with me
more than anything was how you 

904
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:47,200
described him, because you told 
me that his soul was so big that

905
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,280
it couldn't fit inside of his 
body and in the cat body and the

906
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,320
3D. 
And so the way you saw him was 

907
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,160
like this giant soul being 
almost dragged along by this 

908
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,640
tiny little cat body. 
And that to me was like an 

909
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,200
epiphany like that. 
That was him in a nutshell. 

910
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,960
Like I couldn't pinpoint that 
before the conversation we had, 

911
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,800
but he was always like larger 
than life if that made. 

912
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,520
You know, it's funny you say 
that because I remember. 

913
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,160
It's funny when I'm reading. 
I don't remember what I say 

914
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,880
afterward because it's really, 
it's not me. 

915
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,080
I'm I'm telling you what they 
I'm being told. 

916
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:33,200
But I do remember you saying, 
yeah, he may not want to talk to

917
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,080
you because he's, he can be 
difficult. 

918
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,080
And I thought, and he did make 
me wait when we first connected,

919
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,760
I had to sit back and wait and 
actually kind of give him like 

920
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,760
give him some respect. 
And that's when he got really 

921
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,720
big. 
And I thought, oh, people aren't

922
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,720
maybe the people who've tried to
connect with him haven't sat 

923
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:58,480
back and and seen all of him. 
And he didn't want to speak to 

924
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,840
you if you weren't seeing all of
him. 

925
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,120
And it was really an interesting
experience. 

926
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,600
I do remember that when I sat 
back and all of a sudden I was 

927
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,280
like, whoa, he's really big. 
I remember saying that to you. 

928
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,120
Yeah. 
Yes, because everybody that I 

929
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,760
had, I had tried to get to 
connect with him prior to you. 

930
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:25,200
He physically would like walk 
around the room and spray during

931
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,000
like while other people were 
trying to were trying to connect

932
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,000
with him. 
He did not like it. 

933
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:32,480
Oh my. 
Goodness. 

934
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,280
But he didn't do that with you. 
So and I was like, I was on 

935
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,360
edge, honestly. 
So I'm like watching him the 

936
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,720
whole time as we're, as you're 
connecting with him and I'm 

937
00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:45,360
like, Oh my gosh, is he? 
Because he was kind of like he 

938
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,760
was walking around the room for 
probably a good 1520 minutes of 

939
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,160
the, the start of the session 
before he settled down. 

940
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,440
And I was like, oh man, is he 
going to spray? 

941
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,240
Yeah, he was bringing me through
the paces, you know, making sure

942
00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:04,720
that I was on on point with 
letting him tell me. 

943
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,320
Tell me as opposed to me trying 
to tell him, you know? 

944
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,000
Yeah, yeah. 
But I think what I've gotten out

945
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,320
of most of the animal 
communication sessions that I 

946
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,600
have been through and I maybe, 
you know, every animal is 

947
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,040
different. 
Every human is different For me,

948
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:30,480
I feel like almost all of my 
animals that I've had somebody 

949
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:37,800
connect with, I learn a little 
bit more about how spiritual our

950
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:44,000
connections are. 
It's not just, oh, this is a 

951
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,360
responsibility that I have in 
this lifetime, which is true. 

952
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:51,880
Like, don't get me wrong, It's 
it's it's a responsibility to 

953
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,560
have a pet, but just that they 
are so spiritual. 

954
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:01,400
And I even have one cat that I 
actually had another animal 

955
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:07,640
communicator connect with. 
And I feel like my job in this 

956
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:15,080
life was to give her space 
because she, my understanding is

957
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,880
that like her in this lifetime, 
her role, she has been going out

958
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,080
into other dimensions and doing 
work and other dimensions. 

959
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,760
And so it has been my job and my
responsibility to keep her safe 

960
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,480
on this plane while she is out 
doing all of this work that she 

961
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,320
needs to be doing, which may 
sound. 

962
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,160
Totally crazy. 
That Sure, that's amazing. 

963
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,520
What's What's this cat's name? 
Samantha, I call her Sissy, 

964
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,440
Sissy Sissy. 
Samantha, that's awesome. 

965
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:49,880
Yeah. 
But then you and your podcast 

966
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:55,200
hosts also recently connected in
with my dog, Claire. 

967
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,160
That passed. 
Many years ago. 

968
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,960
Oh yes. 
And even though that was really,

969
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,840
really quick, that was like a 5 
minute thing that was for the 

970
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,320
podcast. 
I was just blown away by how 

971
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,680
accurate everybody was. 
Like nobody knew anything. 

972
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,760
I didn't even know going into 
the podcast which animal I was 

973
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:22,440
going to ask to connect with. 
And during that quick 5 minutes,

974
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:27,080
it was like the fact that she 
was read, the fact that she was 

975
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,240
a Pomeranian, like all of these 
things came up and I'm like, you

976
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,520
couldn't have known. 
None of the three of you could 

977
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,760
have known any of them. 
And Claire? 

978
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,200
Bear right? 
I think I remember. 

979
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,320
Here, Claire Bear say on Claire 
Bear, yes, I called her Claire 

980
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,120
Bear, yes. 
That's how I felt. 

981
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,320
About. 
With Belle, was it right off the

982
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,200
bat? 
Like, I mean, it was the first 

983
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,240
thing, you know, you took some 
time to try to kind of connect 

984
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,160
with her and then like right off
the bat, you just said, I'm so 

985
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:59,640
proud of you. 
And I sobbing because it's one 

986
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,400
of those things that I kind of 
say to myself as an affirmation 

987
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,160
as I go through this career and 
connect with people that I wish 

988
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,000
I would have known previously. 
But I spread the the the 

989
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,920
information and stuff that I've 
learned about her and I kind of 

990
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,840
grown up as a person. 
I kind of tell myself I'm like, 

991
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,840
I really feel like she'd be 
proud of me. 

992
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,760
And I feel in my heart that 
she'd be proud of me, which is, 

993
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,640
you know, like I said, if you 
don't have that deep connection 

994
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,600
to dogs, that might sound silly,
but I really feel like she'd be 

995
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,400
proud of me. 
So you said that and I wanted to

996
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,440
throw up because I was like, my 
God, that's the best thing you 

997
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,080
could have said. 
And then, yeah, just the the 

998
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,520
description of her is like a 
mother energy was just, I mean, 

999
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:47,080
everything like that. 
And that was that was just 

1000
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:47,920
really cool. 
Yeah. 

1001
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,320
That was a really cool 
conversation. 

1002
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,600
And I loved feeling that. 
So it was kind of like 

1003
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,880
everything I think I wanted to 
hear about this dog that was so 

1004
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,480
special to me and that I want to
vomit every time I look at 

1005
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,040
pictures of her because I miss 
those soft ears so much. 

1006
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,600
But yeah, I was just just so 
cool. 

1007
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:14,720
And I think that I lost my train
of thought, but well, one of the

1008
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:20,560
one of the kind of takeaways we 
had from that was to embrace the

1009
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,920
connection, let go, allow 
experiences and follow. 

1010
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,240
So I said sometimes like a let 
yourself find that if you've 

1011
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,960
always been like if you think 
that you have your soul dog or 

1012
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,160
just a dog that's put into your 
life at a dog, a person, a cat, 

1013
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,360
a horse, a bird that's put in 
your life for some reason. 

1014
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,440
Kind of let yourself think about
it. 

1015
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,160
And maybe you could give some 
tips on how people can kind of 

1016
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,160
try to get deeper into that. 
I spend a lot of time practicing

1017
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,280
like mindfulness and meditation.
So that's not something that's 

1018
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:58,040
very hard to me to try to narrow
down kind of where I'm at and 

1019
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,680
see if you can kind of grab that
string and pull on it a little 

1020
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,280
bit and see where things are 
trying to take you if something 

1021
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,680
really crappy happens. 
I. 

1022
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,880
I think I told you, like I've 
gotten to a point now where I 

1023
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,560
realized the universe was like 
knocking on the window, Like, 

1024
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,240
hey, listen to me. 
Like. 

1025
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,200
Chucking bricks at me, I said 
like metaphor, spiritual bricks 

1026
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,760
at me. 
And I was finally like, oh, OK. 

1027
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,200
And so I started to listen to 
these things and now I've been 

1028
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,760
brought in this path where I 
just feel so fulfilled. 

1029
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,560
And it wasn't all nice, but I 
feel like I've learned so much. 

1030
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:36,840
And I think that just taking the
time to kind of simplify your 

1031
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,920
intentions. 
And I'm like, I don't, I don't 

1032
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,960
have the words for it. 
And try to find that like 

1033
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,960
spiritual string and kind of tug
on it. 

1034
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,720
Figure out what you're being 
pushed towards, see what 

1035
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:54,880
experiences you're being guided 
towards that might be trying to 

1036
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,480
teach you that lesson or that 
purpose that you're here for. 

1037
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:03,080
And I just think that that was 
such a cool take away from it. 

1038
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,160
Embrace the connection, let go, 
allow experiences and follow. 

1039
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,640
And I just think that that's so 
cool. 

1040
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:17,240
I yeah, I guess I would, I would
just say, you know what comes to

1041
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,640
finding your finding your 
animals, right? 

1042
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,600
We don't, you know, we can 
decide. 

1043
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,040
I don't know where I'm going 
with this, but you know, we can 

1044
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,760
go, oh, I'm going to go get a 
dog, right. 

1045
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:32,520
It's time for a dog. 
But the fact, say you even have 

1046
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:37,200
that as a thought in your head 
is not just you. 

1047
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,280
But yeah, and if we can just. 
Allow ourselves a little bit of 

1048
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,560
a broader viewpoint on these 
things to think that we aren't 

1049
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,360
the we aren't the end all be all
decision makers. 

1050
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:54,480
We are part of a receptive path.
When we are, we do have free 

1051
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,680
will. 
Of course we have free will. 

1052
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,760
You could be standing there and 
go, am I going to eat that 

1053
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,360
barred chocolate or am I going 
to drink that cocktail or am I 

1054
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,760
going to go eat that apple? 
That's free will, right? 

1055
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:09,480
Yeah. 
But there's also the the path of

1056
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,320
even while we're doing 
something, the thing that we're 

1057
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:19,600
experiencing may not be we 
didn't necessarily How do I say 

1058
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,960
this create it ourselves. 
It's part of our souls agreement

1059
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,680
to have a certain lesson or 
experience and it's a 

1060
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,080
manifesting in a certain way or 
a certain moment, including the 

1061
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,800
idea that it's time to go get a 
dog or it's time or cat shows up

1062
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,000
in your backyard or the one who 
stares at you from behind 

1063
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,160
everyone else like sunshine. 
You get honed in on. 

1064
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:49,000
That's, that's not just because 
you, Lauren, happened to be the 

1065
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,960
type of human being that wants 
to save the meek and mild, right

1066
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,800
and help give them a voice, 
because that's, if you look at 

1067
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,120
that, that's also part of you. 
It's because the sole new, the 

1068
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,080
sole agreement you had with 
Sunshine. 

1069
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,280
We talked about a past life, 
which I'll let you share if you 

1070
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,560
want. 
But this agreement you have with

1071
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:14,160
Sunshine, there's no way you 
wouldn't have seen her because 

1072
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,800
you were trust you were in an 
experience of being guided even 

1073
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,600
though you thought it was. 
So it it's almost like all the 

1074
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,720
pegs line up and we go. 
Well, and Canon, Canon, I don't 

1075
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,920
know if he's still on here, but 
we were just talking about that.

1076
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,800
And like, it's, it's, I would 
not have liked him and he would 

1077
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,920
not have liked us if we hadn't 
gone through a couple 

1078
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,840
experiences and kind of things 
to get us exactly where we need 

1079
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,720
to be. 
And it just is one of those 

1080
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,360
things that I'm like, it's. 
Just a little bit too. 

1081
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,840
Coincidental, the timing of 
everything and basically to 

1082
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,640
simplify all of that, I do fully
believe, and it sounds like you 

1083
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,960
do too, that everything happens 
for a reason 100. 

1084
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,280
Percent. 
And sometimes you it's, it's a 

1085
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,760
giant ball of suck and you're 
like, why does this reason have 

1086
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,040
to be happening? 
But then I think once that kind 

1087
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,200
of smoke clears, then you have 
to think on it a little bit and 

1088
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:09,040
figure out because there's 
something and maybe it's setting

1089
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,400
you up for the next thing to 
happen. 

1090
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,280
You know what I mean? 
Has to knock you down. 

1091
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,480
Some things happen for reasons 
that are beyond our 

1092
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,280
comprehension at the moment, 
right? 

1093
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:26,400
Like I don't know why I didn't 
know why a 20 sit 28 when I 

1094
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,840
threw a Frisbee, I was going to 
compress 2 of my discs in my 

1095
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,320
back, 20 years old, totally fit,
compressed 2 discs in my back, 

1096
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,200
right? 
But it there was a trajectory 

1097
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,280
that happened because of it and 
I made different choices because

1098
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,760
of it and I learned different 
things because of it, right? 

1099
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:46,600
So when I look back, I get 
hindsight's 2020 for sure. 

1100
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,880
So you can kind of look back on 
things and say, wow, yeah, 

1101
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:55,560
that's, I can see where I zigged
and zagged, but I still ended 

1102
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,760
up. 
Definitely feel like. 

1103
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:03,600
To learn right? 
Yeah, I, I have a lot of that in

1104
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,760
my life, for sure. 
It could, Oh yeah, could, could 

1105
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,680
knock me down. 
It could give me excuses as to 

1106
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,120
why I should pity myself and 
why, you know, a lot of people 

1107
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,120
don't make it out of stuff like 
that. 

1108
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:22,720
But I was always like, OK, I 
have to do this for some reason.

1109
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,720
It's fine. 
We'll just keep looking upwards 

1110
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:29,280
and kind of a little string off 
of that that I want to bring up 

1111
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:30,600
because I know we're all crazy 
cat ladies. 

1112
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,000
Here is the cat distribution 
system. 

1113
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,400
Yes. 
Why do I get distributed so many

1114
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,600
cats? 
There's 4 cats. 

1115
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,760
There's so many cats. 
Darwin was the last one, and I 

1116
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,280
said I won't even touch another 
kitten. 

1117
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:46,360
Like what is he doing back 
there? 

1118
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,800
And he's so funny. 
But we have so many cats and 

1119
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,040
luckily they're lovely cats. 
But we had brought that up and 

1120
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,480
you had never heard the term 
before. 

1121
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,960
But I'm like, cat distribution 
system just hit me hard. 

1122
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,200
You don't like go out and if you
want like a main Coon or 

1123
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:05,800
something like that, but most 
people you're like, oh, this is 

1124
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,160
fluffy. 
I found her under a downspout -3

1125
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:13,120
of her legs and now she's a 
sweet Princess baby. 

1126
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:14,560
And that's kind of how Darwin 
was. 

1127
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,480
And all of my and I'm like, 
well, they're just this is these

1128
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:19,360
are my cats. 
No. 

1129
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,600
I mean, I have to say yes, the 
cat distribution system, now 

1130
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,280
that I understand the language, 
has been distributed through me 

1131
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,000
too. 
I mean, my first cat Dusty in 

1132
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,400
college, we found under a car 
outside of our apartment. 

1133
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,360
And then she reincarnated and 
came back to me as hockey Puck, 

1134
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,360
which we found in the middle of 
a divided highway in the middle 

1135
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:44,360
of the night, tied to dreams 
that I was having from about 

1136
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,840
finding her, then turned into 
him. 

1137
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,560
So, you know, there is. 
It's really. 

1138
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,520
Yeah. 
They they find you the one 

1139
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,720
they're supposed to. 
And then Notay and Dia, of the 

1140
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,480
ones I have now, which you guys 
probably see on Instagram, 

1141
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,200
hockey puck is the one that 
guided me to them. 

1142
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,240
So there's definitely a 
distribution system going. 

1143
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:08,040
On Yeah, Yeah. 
Well, and I have to I mean, I 

1144
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:12,760
know we're already over an hour,
but I just to kind of for me 

1145
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:18,360
kind of tie up this whole idea 
of spirituality. 

1146
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,400
I think like for me and, and 
animal communication has been a 

1147
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:27,160
part of this. 
But if I am definitely going 

1148
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,560
through a tower moment in my 
life right now. 

1149
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:38,840
And I don't think that I don't 
know if I would have been strong

1150
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:45,240
enough to do what I needed to do
to choose myself if I hadn't, if

1151
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,160
I hadn't have started this 
spiritual journey that I did a 

1152
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,760
couple of years ago. 
And animal communication has 

1153
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:58,880
just been a part of that, like 
being tapping into how these 

1154
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:05,520
animals have chosen me and my 
role in their current existence 

1155
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:10,240
and their role in my current 
existence and under starting to 

1156
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:15,440
understand soul contracts and 
all of these things. 

1157
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:20,520
I don't know that I would have 
been strong enough to be where I

1158
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:27,520
am now. 100% I know I and I know
what you're talking about and 

1159
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:30,479
lots of love to you and you're 
so strong. 

1160
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:35,880
You know, you're so strong and 
our animals really do support us

1161
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,120
in our spiritual journeys. 
That's that's one of the amazing

1162
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:43,319
gifts when we take in animals 
and we really see them as 

1163
01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:46,279
partners. 
They really elevate our spirits,

1164
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:50,439
you know, and give us, help us 
see ourselves in the best light.

1165
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,439
We start to see, we start to see
pieces of ourselves that they 

1166
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,240
know are there, that they, 
that's why they love us 

1167
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:00,080
unconditionally, because they 
see our essence and they help us

1168
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,600
see our own essences, you know, 
and our own strengths because we

1169
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,160
wanted to do it for them. 
Right. 

1170
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,760
Initially, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Then we do it for ourselves. 

1171
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:15,160
You see like animals as spirit 
guides through so many different

1172
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,319
cultures around the world. 
And same with like the concept 

1173
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:24,040
of reincarnation, same with like
twin flame or or string theory. 

1174
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,240
See so many different iterations
and that is so many cultures 

1175
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,840
around the world. 
And I'm like, you can't make 

1176
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,120
that up. 
There's a lot of threads weaving

1177
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,560
together. 
Of yeah, yeah. 

1178
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,880
And same with like and for for 
the people that like absolutely 

1179
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,760
nae nae the and I don't blame 
them the idea. 

1180
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,040
And also if anybody has any 
questions or anything with Karen

1181
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,840
before Karen or Jessica, before 
we close up or anything, put 

1182
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,640
them in the the comments and 
we'll try to cover stuff. 

1183
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:57,840
But you can't deny the fact that
even the most genius of physics 

1184
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,360
physicists and we covered this. 
There is an energy field of 

1185
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,400
vibration and you know 
everything like that to 

1186
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:14,480
everything that lives period. 
And that's if you want to deny 

1187
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:19,320
the a psychic connection and and
or reincarnation, like I 

1188
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,640
understand that. 
But you can't deny the the 

1189
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:29,160
energy in all of us and the fact
that many animals and people and

1190
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,400
and things throughout the world 
have the ability to pick up on 

1191
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:34,920
that. 
So I don't think it's that much 

1192
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,200
of A stretch to say that certain
people are closer to that. 

1193
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,200
And you and I were talking about
like the the telepathy tapes. 

1194
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,400
I think it's absolutely so 
magical. 

1195
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:49,520
And I'll bet it's the same thing
as like, if you lose your sight,

1196
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,600
your, your, your hearing becomes
more attuned. 

1197
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,280
And if you lose control of your 
body, then your mind's going to 

1198
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,480
become more attuned. 
And even the government now 

1199
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,600
employs psychics, whether you 
want to go down that conspiracy 

1200
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,320
theory or not. 
But that's been confirmed. 

1201
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,400
But if you look at OK, let's 
let's talk men who stare at 

1202
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:10,280
ghosts, that movie with some of 
my most favorite actors ever in 

1203
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,600
that movie, all in one movie. 
I'm like, Oh my God. 

1204
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:18,680
But that is a spin off that is a
bit of a satire around a true 

1205
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:24,400
program that we have had in the 
United States sit Oh my God, 

1206
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:28,960
since the Fifties, 60s and 70s 
when and it's it's based. 

1207
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,240
You can read about it in a book 
called The Field by Lynn 

1208
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:35,600
Mactaggart, where she talks 
about this program I think was 

1209
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:41,440
called Stargate, and where they 
they actually brought military 

1210
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,640
people to certain military 
people together who had a 

1211
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:52,400
sensitivity to intuition and 
trained them to be psychic spies

1212
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:57,000
because Russia was doing it. 
And we needed to be able to 

1213
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:03,760
train our military men to seek 
remote view where bombs were 

1214
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,000
being stored and things are 
being done and people were being

1215
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,920
held hostage. 
They also were working on 

1216
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,400
psychic warfare where you could 
actually focus in on someone 

1217
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,040
else's heart and actually target
energy into their heart and try 

1218
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,000
to assassinate them. 
And psychically. 

1219
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,120
The weird thing is though, is if
you agreed to do that part of 

1220
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,120
the work, you also ended up with
a heart heart attack. 

1221
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,440
In the end. 
Your heart was weaker because 

1222
01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:28,040
you were using it to hurt other 
people. 

1223
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:33,120
But this goes back for thousands
and thousands of years to 

1224
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,640
something called Thousand Mile 
Eyes, which comes out of Chinese

1225
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,040
philosophy. 
So and practice in martial arts.

1226
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:45,120
So yeah, it's real psychic 
warfare and psychic remote 

1227
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,240
viewing is a real thing. 
And it is part of the government

1228
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,880
and always, it always has been. 
And it's, she writes about it in

1229
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:56,480
her book. 
We're we're wanting to do what 

1230
01:12:56,480 --> 01:12:59,400
the animals are already doing, 
which is they can sense across 

1231
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,000
miles when a storm is coming. 
They know which direction 

1232
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,840
someone went miles and miles 
away. 

1233
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,640
If they are really honed in, 
they can talk to each other in 

1234
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,920
separate buildings. 
So we're learning to do what 

1235
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,560
they we lost by doing that. 
Yeah, well. 

1236
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:21,240
It's tough. 
And I think I mean the the what 

1237
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:29,840
I started out talking about how 
we have spent so many hundreds, 

1238
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:34,960
thousands, even years 
suppressing intuition and kind 

1239
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,680
of a more feminine nature. 
That same thing. 

1240
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:44,920
We have disconnected from nature
in general. 

1241
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:53,120
Like, I mean, there are people 
who live in high rises who 

1242
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,880
when's the last time they 
touched dirt or grass, right? 

1243
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,400
Like that's where. 
That's what my favorite Gen. 

1244
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,160
Z thing right now. 
Go touch grass. 

1245
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,080
Yes, please stop. 
Stop eating tide pods and go 

1246
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:14,760
touch grass like that's and, and
so I think the more we get back 

1247
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,760
to how we are supposed to be 
living as humans, the more we 

1248
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:24,000
can get back to the intuitive 
parts of ourselves. 

1249
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:28,200
Because and, and I, I think, I 
personally think it's very 

1250
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:32,960
deliberate that we have been 
conditioned and indoctrinated 

1251
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:39,640
to, to, to not be connected to 
nature, but, and that's, that's 

1252
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,960
a whole other thing. 
I can't wait to cover that. 

1253
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,560
With you from the hospitals. 
I mean, it's like I'm not 

1254
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,320
exactly here like wishing I had 
a home birth because that I 

1255
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,400
think it's terrifying but how 
far we've gotten from that. 

1256
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,400
They like immediately take them 
and you wash all the, the, the 

1257
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,200
biological stuff off and wrap 
them in a polyester blanket 

1258
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,800
immediately, you know, and I 
think that from the beginning, 

1259
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,440
we've just gotten so far away 
from our nature. 

1260
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:08,560
And, and I think we're kind of, 
there's at least a sub sect of, 

1261
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,880
of the world that's starting to 
get back to that starting to 

1262
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,080
grow your own food. 
And, and I, you know, in my 

1263
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,520
realm, I think there's a lot of 
respect in the food cycle. 

1264
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,320
And I think that one of the the,
the best things you can do, I 

1265
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,840
want to say best, one of the 
most respectful things you can 

1266
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:30,280
do is have to, this sounds 
really brutal, but take the life

1267
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,280
that you're consuming. 
Like I think that there's a lot 

1268
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,400
of honor behind hunting. 
I used to hate it. 

1269
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,440
I used to think I'm like, what 
are you just going to stalk an 

1270
01:15:38,440 --> 01:15:41,080
animal down in its home? 
I think that the process of 

1271
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,640
stalking and going to the 
process of taking the lives like

1272
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,960
Native Americans would, but they
would like say, thank you for 

1273
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,920
your sacrifice and using the 
whole animal. 

1274
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,800
I think there's so much honor in
that because that's really 

1275
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,040
getting us back to our root 
biological cycle. 

1276
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,200
And I just think that's kind of 
a cool thing. 

1277
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,600
That's a whole other thing that 
I think would be really cool to 

1278
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:06,840
talk to Karen about because I 
know I have heard a lot of more 

1279
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,920
spiritual people and especially 
animal communicators say that 

1280
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:15,600
they can't eat meat anymore once
they connect to animals in this 

1281
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,360
way. 
And I agree with you, Lauren, 

1282
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,520
that granted, I'm not an animal 
communicator, but I completely 

1283
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:29,680
agree with like, no, I am not OK
with hunting for sport, but like

1284
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:36,600
that can that we have lost that 
connection to how how we sustain

1285
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,000
ourselves as human beings. 
And like, that's a very natural 

1286
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,040
thing. 
We are supposed to be eating 

1287
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:47,600
both plants and meat. 
And like it's, it's part of the 

1288
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,480
natural life cycle. 
So I, I mean, we don't need to 

1289
01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:53,200
talk about that right now, but 
that would be a really well, you

1290
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,240
know, come back to you. 
The Movie. 

1291
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,640
That's a whole nother topic. 
We'll wait for another day of 

1292
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,440
that one. 
I think the movie Avatar is like

1293
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,680
covers that so well. 
I'm like, Yep, everything's 

1294
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,080
interconnected by in, in that, 
you know, in that movie, 

1295
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,240
obviously it's like a sci-fi 
thing, but there is an 

1296
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,760
interconnected cycle. 
And I have a heavy biology and 

1297
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,120
ecology thing, and that is one 
part of that collapse and 

1298
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:17,840
everything starts to get a 
little wonky. 

1299
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,280
You know what I mean? 
Like if you miss one screw out 

1300
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,280
of your car, something's going 
to be a little wonky. 

1301
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,520
And I think that we've just 
disrupted that ecological cycle 

1302
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,360
and we're kind of in the way of 
getting back to that right now. 

1303
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,360
And I think it's a cool kind of 
process. 

1304
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,680
We are done. 
We should probably start to 

1305
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,960
close up, but is there anything?
Else we want to cover anything 

1306
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:44,840
else. 
We want to do before before we 

1307
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:49,200
go. 
I guess I would just say for my 

1308
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:54,640
part on the at the end of this 
is take a breath with, if you're

1309
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,080
not doing it already, take a 
breath with your animal family 

1310
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:05,560
members and look into their eyes
directly and just share 

1311
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:12,080
appreciation for their efforts 
to accommodate living in our 

1312
01:18:12,440 --> 01:18:17,200
world. 
Because left to their druthers, 

1313
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,240
right, left to their way of 
being, their most natural way of

1314
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,120
being, they wouldn't they. 
And granted, yes, is it better 

1315
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:27,200
for is it safer for cats? 
Sure, Dogs get like sleeping 

1316
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:31,560
under blankets, yes. 
But besides those comforts, they

1317
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,520
literally are constantly trying 
to figure out how to communicate

1318
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,000
with us because they are living 
in our world and we have 

1319
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,560
absolutely made them feel that 
way. 

1320
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,000
So construct which means we are 
absolutely in control of 

1321
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,360
everything. 
And remember how gracious they 

1322
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,800
are in allowing us to be in 
control of when they go for 

1323
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,960
walks, when they get to relieve 
their bladders, what they get to

1324
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,400
eat, when they get to sleep, 
when they get to be in our 

1325
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,360
presence, when they are too over
stimulated. 

1326
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:07,840
We they have literally agreed to
be in our world in that case 

1327
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,600
domesticate for us. 
So to have some gratefulness for

1328
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,680
them and just to say thank you 
and try to see things through 

1329
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:21,440
their eyes once in a while, just
watch what happens it. 

1330
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:24,880
Really does shift the. 
Energy and focus between us in a

1331
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,880
way we you will see them 
differently, I think kind of on 

1332
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,560
that topic too. 
That's what I love to tell 

1333
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:34,400
people to. 
Remember, thank you Nos Lee for 

1334
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,280
saying that, for thank for that 
remind you. 

1335
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:46,720
We lost your voice again. 
We lost her. 

1336
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,400
Voice again. 
She missed it. 

1337
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,360
No. 
No, just got a call again. 

1338
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:53,360
Yeah, she. 
Got. 

1339
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,440
Disrupted because we. 
Get to talk more now. 

1340
01:19:56,480 --> 01:20:00,000
No, I think giving them back 
little senses of. 

1341
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:04,720
Of their true nature, things 
like like I do with rabbit fur 

1342
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,840
and and stuff like that. 
Just a little bit that lets them

1343
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:10,240
use that parts of their instinct
I think is really important 

1344
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:14,960
because yeah, we do force them 
into our sterile tide scented 

1345
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:19,080
homes, give them a little bit of
their natural stimulation back 

1346
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,280
and things like that. 
So just yeah, giving them the 

1347
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:26,120
respect back that they are. 
Working really hard to figure us

1348
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:31,280
out and that we can do that too.
Yeah, I wish we had time to do a

1349
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,840
quick reading or something, but.
Maybe we'll have to do another 

1350
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:35,600
one. 
Yeah, we'll do another 

1351
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,200
conversation. 
I feel like I could talk about 

1352
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,880
this forever. 
I didn't even get to talk about 

1353
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,200
sunshine and eyes history. 
I almost want to talk about 

1354
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,520
that. 
There was, I'm just going to do 

1355
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:48,840
a really quick sunshine. 
And so she's a little dog that I

1356
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,080
felt like I had that really deep
Connect fan with. 

1357
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,080
And she's this like little 
delicate Princess, like can't 

1358
01:20:54,280 --> 01:21:00,760
jump over barely a doorstep. 
You had gotten like a really 

1359
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,680
clear vision of her. 
And I as like a hunter and a 

1360
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:09,120
deer tracking dog, specifically 
a black and white speckled maybe

1361
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,120
hound dog or or setter or 
something. 

1362
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,640
And sunshine. 
I adopted her when she was maybe

1363
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:22,240
10 or 11. 
And you said that in that past 

1364
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,960
life we were a team and we had 
hunt together and everything. 

1365
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,160
But then something happened 
where she got lost and I didn't 

1366
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:34,600
get to see the end of her life 
or I never found out what 

1367
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,440
happened to her. 
Maybe she died, maybe something 

1368
01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:39,440
like that. 
And so now she's coming back so 

1369
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:42,680
I can experience that end of her
life again and I can make up for

1370
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,880
what I didn't get to do the 
first time or something kind of 

1371
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,920
like that. 
And I was like, interesting. 

1372
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:51,160
My little delicate Angel baby 
dog, A Deer Hunter. 

1373
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:52,920
Yeah. 
And I was a man. 

1374
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:53,520
Which is. 
Yeah. 

1375
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,280
And it was hundreds of years 
ago. 

1376
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,000
Yeah, Yeah. 
Which I think is cool. 

1377
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,320
Because it almost wraps into 
what I do now. 

1378
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:04,720
Like, why do I have does right? 
Why do I have this weird thing 

1379
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,840
that I chop up animals and I 
feel very at home with it, but 

1380
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,720
not that I chop up animals. 
You know what I mean? 

1381
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:14,640
But you know, I just thought 
that was really cool. 

1382
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,440
I'm like, what a? 
What a. 

1383
01:22:16,440 --> 01:22:19,040
What a. 
Weird connection because I do. 

1384
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:23,320
I felt like I'm like, I've known
her before, I just don't know 

1385
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,480
why. 
And I think that that's so cool.

1386
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,680
Yeah, that was only one of the 
times. 

1387
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,360
That was only one of the times 
that she shared. 

1388
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,360
So. 
In our little our little Venn 

1389
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,040
diverse collaborations. 
Yeah. 

1390
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:36,880
Well, if anybody has any 
questions. 

1391
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,800
Drop them in really quick 
otherwise. 

1392
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,760
If you guys have anything else 
you want to say and then we'll 

1393
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,720
we'll finish. 
I I just have one question 

1394
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:48,160
because ever. 
Since you talked about your cat 

1395
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:54,240
Marnie, I'm like, I have this 
strange desire to watch 

1396
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:55,960
Halloween Town. 
Is that what she is named? 

1397
01:22:56,480 --> 01:22:59,720
It is. 
Nobody ever knows that. 

1398
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,120
Yeah. 
That was my favorite movie 

1399
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,760
growing. 
Up and then I was working at a 

1400
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,520
pet store with actually Megan 
who's watching this is she was 

1401
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,440
my assistant manager at a pet 
store and now she works for me. 

1402
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,920
And somebody brought in this 
little kitten and they're like, 

1403
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,000
yeah, we're taking her to the 
shelter. 

1404
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,160
But I mean, she was like, I was 
like, they're going to probably 

1405
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,560
put her down because they don't 
have stuff for bottle feeding. 

1406
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,040
That's just kind of what it was.
And it was like the week before 

1407
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,960
Halloween. 
And I'm like, what's a strong, 

1408
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,840
resilient little girl that has 
something to do with Halloween? 

1409
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,280
And I'm like Marnie because she 
is the witch that defeated 

1410
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:37,960
Calzar Calabar, Calzar cats. 
And what a good movie. 

1411
01:23:38,440 --> 01:23:39,760
I think it's bar Calabar 
Calabar. 

1412
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,840
I think it's Kestrel revenge or 
something. 

1413
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,280
Yeah, in a. 
Couple of years, but. 

1414
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,200
Now I want to watch it. 
I watch it. 

1415
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,680
Every every October, it's a good
one. 

1416
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,240
That's good. 
So that's what she's named 

1417
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,640
after, and she's a spicy little.
Her. 

1418
01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:56,440
Eyes are like stuck up. 
She's Siamese, something I need 

1419
01:23:56,440 --> 01:23:59,240
to do some I, I keep meaning to 
do like an intro of my cat. 

1420
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,160
Somebody asked me on a previous 
Instagram. 

1421
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:02,880
They're they're like, introduce 
all your cats. 

1422
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,040
And I was like, there's too many
of them and they're all running 

1423
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,640
from me. 
I can hear her screaming at me 

1424
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,400
outside the door. 
But I'll have to do an intro of 

1425
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,560
all the menaces in my life, 
including Darwin, who's chewing 

1426
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,240
on something over here. 
But thank you guys so much for 

1427
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,680
hopping on with me. 
I've been so excited about this.

1428
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:24,000
And we might have to do a Volume
2 and yeah, put questions and 

1429
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,560
then we'll know what volume to 
should be about. 

1430
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:29,120
Yeah, absolutely. 
If you guys have any topics you 

1431
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,600
want to talk about on the next. 
One, anything that you maybe 

1432
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,320
thought was woo woo before and 
you want us to cover with no 

1433
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:40,520
judgement and absolutely 
believing in you let us know. 

1434
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:44,120
Because, yeah, that that was. 
You wanted me to talk to Nancy 

1435
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,360
Winhart and I found her thing 
and she has some little 

1436
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,920
webinars, so I'm going to go 
take that and then we'll have to

1437
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,520
talk after that. 
So all right, Well, thank you 

1438
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,880
everybody. 
We will be saving this. 

1439
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,920
And so you can watch it again. 
If you want to walk back, watch 

1440
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,880
back and we will talk again 
soon. 

1441
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:06,720
Bye guys, bye. 
OK, so. 

1442
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,320
That. 
Was an emotional episode I. 

1443
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:14,440
Know I was there and I hope that
it meant something to you. 

1444
01:25:14,440 --> 01:25:18,800
I hope that it hit you somewhere
in your soul like it did me, 

1445
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,360
like it did Lauren, like I'm 
sure it does Karen. 

1446
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,720
I don't know how Karen does what
she does honestly, but Lauren 

1447
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,800
and I are both just in all of 
her and what she does and I 

1448
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,080
highly recommend her for anyone 
that just needs a little bit of 

1449
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,640
help. 
So I as promised, Legacy Biome 

1450
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:42,800
is a sponsor for this week's 
podcast and I have used FMT 

1451
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,880
capsules in the past. 
And I know. 

1452
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,120
I have. 
I have recommended FMT to many 

1453
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:54,240
of my clients and legacy is 
different in that their donor 

1454
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,640
dogs are different. 
So they have enteric coded 

1455
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,480
capsules. 
So they're designed to get 

1456
01:25:59,480 --> 01:26:03,560
through the upper GI system into
the lower GI system where 

1457
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:04,840
they're going to be most 
effective. 

1458
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,200
And the donor dogs, they are 
coming out with cat. 

1459
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,600
By the way. 
If they haven't already, they 

1460
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,800
are very very soon. 
I saw it on the website just a 

1461
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,320
couple of weeks ago. 
It said preorder it's coming. 

1462
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:22,080
So the donor dogs are incredibly
healthy for multiple 

1463
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:26,200
generations. 
Low tox, no antibiotics, all the

1464
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,520
things like these are really 
incredibly healthy dogs. 

1465
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:33,640
They also eat a fully fresh food
diet with a high amount and 

1466
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:38,800
diversity in vegetation, which 
is very important because if you

1467
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,120
have been following the state of
the gut reports for the past few

1468
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:47,600
years, raw fed dogs especially 
have way low fiber in their 

1469
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:53,320
diets, way low vegetation, which
is in turn creating imbalances 

1470
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:58,040
in the microbiome. 
They don't have a lot or enough 

1471
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,320
of certain bacteria that they 
should be having. 

1472
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,440
Granted, we are not God, we 
don't know exactly what a 

1473
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:06,800
healthy. 
Microbiome looks like. 

1474
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:14,720
But we can make some 
recommendations based on tons of

1475
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,160
testing, tons of data that we 
have. 

1476
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,280
On this dog is. 
Healthy, this dog is not 

1477
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:20,480
healthy. 
What's the difference in their 

1478
01:27:20,480 --> 01:27:22,960
microbiome and we got kind of go
off of that. 

1479
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,640
So some of the things that I 
have recommended FMT 

1480
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:32,840
specifically for in my dogs that
I work with are going to be GI 

1481
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:38,360
upset, like chronic GI upset. 
We're going to sometimes we 

1482
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,440
don't use FMT first sometimes. 
We do a few things before. 

1483
01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:44,800
We do FMT, if this is the camp 
that you're in, contact me. 

1484
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,880
We can do one-on-one consults. 
But yes, I absolutely use it for

1485
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,760
dogs who have chronic GI issues.
I use it for dogs with bad 

1486
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,200
breath. 
Think about that one. 

1487
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,640
Did you? 
I use it for dogs that have 

1488
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,680
symptoms similar to heartburn 
and indigestion. 

1489
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,760
Behavioral issues. 
All kinds. 

1490
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,520
Of things, food sensitivities, 
allergies, there are so many 

1491
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:14,520
things that we can use FMT for 
because 70% of the immune system

1492
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,920
is in the gut. 
So if we are not consistently 

1493
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:23,200
throughout the life of our dogs 
and cats creating a space for a 

1494
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,080
healthy gut microbiome, we got 
problems. 

1495
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,400
We're going to have problems at 
some point. 

1496
01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:33,000
If you haven't yet, praise 
whoever you praise. 

1497
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,040
Thank the universe. 
Thank Mother Gaia. 

1498
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,040
Like we're, we're that's 
amazing. 

1499
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:43,800
At some point we probably will. 
So FMT is a big part of the 

1500
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,840
routine that I use for different
things in dogs that I work with.

1501
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,760
So yeah, try legacy Biome if you
are interested in. 

1502
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,560
It if you have questions. 
About it, let me know. 

1503
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,360
But if you're interested in it, 
go ahead to go to 

1504
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,440
legacybiome.com. 
Use the code TPPR. 

1505
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,240
That's TPPR, which stands for 
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1506
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,560
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To get 10% off of your order and

1507
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if you need help, reach out to 
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1508
01:29:10,480 --> 01:29:11,720
for. 
All right guys, I hope you have 

1509
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,800
a great week. 
Thank you so much for being here

1510
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,120
and I will talk to you next 
week.