1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,520 Welcome to the Pet Parenting Reset podcast. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,600 If you're new here, my name is Jess and this is a space where 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,280 we talk about all things health, span, and quality of life for 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,120 your pets and you too. I'm so excited that you're here. 5 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:27,720 Let's dive in. Think of how to start this. 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,200 Do you wanna? Do you? 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,240 You've been here so many times. Do you want to answer show? 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,280 Well, you know you are not focused so. 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,360 No, okay, all right, welcome back, parent. 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,960 Today's episode is actually I'm learning right along with you. 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,360 So Billy reached out and he said, hey, we have some really 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,920 cool new information that we put together and I want to talk 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,360 about it. And I said sure. 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:01:00,000 So I know we're talking about the new probiotic, but that's 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,040 about all I know what we're talking about. 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,319 So I'm just going to let you take it away. 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,080 Well. Yeah, I appreciate you having me 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,240 on the show. And you know, it's it's a 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,840 interesting thing that we sort of so when you do something like 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,760 this. So when you have something that 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,680 is a completely new concept and something, you know, we're very 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,720 proud of doing things like that generally. 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,000 But when you do something that's never been done before, you 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,520 know, there's a lot of there's associated like vagueness with 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,960 it. So you have these instances 26 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:36,320 where you're like, OK, this is and I'll go over this, but this 27 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:37,960 is the concept. That's what we're doing. 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,520 And then you move to, oh, we can see that it's having these 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,760 health benefits and pets. And then and that information 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,720 should not be downplayed at all. I talk about that a lot with 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,600 people who are like, you know, go to their vet, they go, oh, 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,560 yeah, I started doing this diet and everything. 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,600 You know, all these issues sort of subsided. 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,640 And they're like, well, there's no scientific study to prove 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,800 that. Well, So what I can physically 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,560 see it in my dog. My dog is about higher quality 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,200 of life now. And I think that's where, like a 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,120 lot of disconnect happens, you know, between, you know, some of 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,160 the conventional. So that information is always 40 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,160 really great. Like a really great example of 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,600 that is, you know, our wild fermented mushroom probiotic 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,200 people all over the country since its inception have been 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,000 telling us that it helps tear States and that is totally 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,880 great. And I have no idea why, you 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,720 know, there's people I might have theories, there's people 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,280 who have theories, you know, Rita Hogan, etcetera. 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,280 But the the real kicker there is the result that I'm happy about. 48 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,920 So those things are great and, and we've been seeing this in 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,480 the results, but one of the things we always try to do is we 50 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,600 always try to get as much data as possible. 51 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,720 And this was a really interesting way to get clinical 52 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,680 research done so we could actually prove some factors of 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,840 this. And one of the reasons that we 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,160 chose innovative Pet Labs was because they're what they're 55 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:04,120 measuring is like quality of life factors like we love, you 56 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,640 know, bacteria in general and you know, you know, measuring 57 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,880 like the good versus bad bacteria makeup and the gut and 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,240 that kind of stuff. But sometimes for people too, 59 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:19,040 that's kind of like like a abstract concept. 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,320 OK, cool. So my dog is going to have more 61 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,880 good bacteria, but what does that mean? 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,360 You know, in terms of like, what do I actually physically see? 63 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,920 Because that's what we really want, right? 64 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:30,120 Like we're when you take your turmeric every day, that's great 65 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,920 that you can list off all these health benefits, but what you're 66 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:36,600 really looking for is for your joints not to hurt, you know, 67 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,760 And so so it's the way to do that. 68 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,960 But for those, those are the people who don't know what I'm 69 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,600 talking about with our probiotics, we have three of 70 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,640 them. We have farm leaf and soil. 71 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,480 And when we made those probiotics, the whole concept 72 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,280 was we knew that traditionally made probiotics have like a 73 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,960 limited number of strains. And we knew that fermented foods 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,640 have hundreds and thousands of strains, strains that we don't 75 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,320 even know how to measure, which is one of the reasons that 76 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 there's a plus on all those. So it's kind of funny because 77 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,200 our mind still wants to wrap around, oh, there's this many. 78 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,960 So like Leaf says, different strains of healthy yeast and 79 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,079 bacteria, 300 plus. So people immediately go, oh, 80 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:18,160 there's 300. No, there's more than we can 81 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,279 measure. And the whole point is to bring 82 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,960 out the food culture, the the entire culture and not the 83 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,840 actual strains themselves are not isolating the strains. 84 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:30,960 We're not identifying them and going, OK, we have this much of 85 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,880 this and also they'll vary every time because they grow up that 86 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,600 food culture every time. So we wanted to sort of, we have 87 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,000 fermented products, but we know that there's tons of animals 88 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 that can't do fermented foods. We know there's animals that, 89 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,640 you know, can't do certain foods, dairy, etcetera. 90 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,400 And so when we looked at that, you know, we said how do we take 91 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,520 all the multitude of those bacteria and put them somewhere 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,280 else? And we found a really cool lab 93 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,480 in Canada who's able to do that for us. 94 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,480 And so, you know, we took fermented raw milk, we took 95 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,200 kombucha and we took wild fermented plants and we grew out 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,560 the entire culture. And so, and one of the things 97 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,320 that I'll talk about a lot is in farm and leaf, the one that has 98 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,280 both yeast and bacteria, we actually, the lab actually grew 99 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:24,520 them out separately the species. So they, they put one in a plate 100 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,320 that is conducive to yeast and one in a plate that's conducive 101 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,560 to bacteria. And so there's equal amounts of 102 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,640 yeast and bacteria in both of those, which is one of the 103 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,880 reasons I think it has such a leaf, for example, has such a 104 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,200 profound effect on yeast issues even more than foods that 105 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,480 contain good and high amounts of yeast or a single strain of 106 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,480 yeast, in fact. And by the way, this is all 107 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:47,360 total tangents because, you know, we're talking about oil 108 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,200 here. But I just had someone tell me 109 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,200 when I was in, I did some events in California recently and I 110 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,240 would, I just had someone tell me that they had tried every 111 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,680 yeast for, for yeast years. They tried every yeast protocol, 112 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,280 supplement products, low carb diet, nothing ever worked for 113 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:07,960 this lab. And within a week and 1/2 on 114 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,840 leaf, the years were completely cleared. 115 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,120 And so that's like medicine. That's like medicine level, you 116 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,200 know, because you know, we always talk about like when you 117 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,200 work with your clients, it's, it's a process. 118 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,080 You got to give these things time, right, in order to do 119 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,080 that. And so, so that's really the 120 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,520 concept of all of these probiotics is like, how do we 121 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,080 bring nature? How do we bring the native 122 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,640 bacteria that animals evolved with back into the bowl? 123 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:39,040 And because at one point cats and dogs were constantly 124 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:44,160 inoculated with, you know, all this bacteria consistently when 125 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,600 they slept outside, when they lived in the forest, when they, 126 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,920 you know, were eating off the ground and that kind of thing. 127 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,240 It sort of goes back to there's there's research right now going 128 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,320 into the Amish because they don't have allergies, but we 129 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,480 don't need research. I know exactly why they don't 130 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,200 have allergies. And it's because, you know, 131 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,600 those kids are barefoot all summer and they're in manure up 132 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,320 to their, you know, ankles and they're just living outside 133 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,880 constantly. In fact, I was on an Amish farm 134 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,520 recently and all the like 10 kids were just playing outside 135 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,560 and I was like, Oh my God, it's like how kids are supposed to 136 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,840 be, you know, And so it really does bring that concept back. 137 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,040 And I think that's where you're going to see when we talk about 138 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,520 the, the, the research here, I think that's where you're going 139 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:32,280 to see a lot of the data go. Because we really wanted to take 140 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:38,080 this like huge concept and boil it down to, you know, some real 141 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,680 quality of life factors. Because you would expect all of 142 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,720 these different health markers to change if you're, you know, 143 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,800 constantly inoculating the gut with all these different 144 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,560 bacteria. So it is we wanted to prove the 145 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,760 diversity versus potency, OK. Well, and I want to kind of 146 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,520 frame this a little bit because one of the topics of 147 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:07,880 conversation that I have been having and researching a lot 148 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,720 lately is around probiotics in general. 149 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,560 And I think it's something that some people are starting to talk 150 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:21,200 about in a very different way because one, I am not anti 151 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,920 capitalism at all, but we do live in a very consumeristic 152 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,200 society. And what happens when something 153 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,720 takes off, everybody starts making it, everybody starts 154 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,240 putting it in their products. And that's what we're seeing 155 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,080 with probiotics right now. They're in, I mean, they're in 156 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,559 so many pet products and it's like, OK, but if you're getting 157 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,720 the same 3 strains in 10 different products that you're 158 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,520 using throughout the month or the quarter, then are you 159 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,640 actually doing more damage than good when you're only exposing 160 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,640 your pet to the same strains over and over and over again? 161 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:03,640 So I think that is where farm leaf and soil are so different 162 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,840 from everything else that's on the market. 163 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,880 Yeah. Well, and then you couple that 164 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,080 with the fact that, you know, under AFCO guidelines, there's 165 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,520 only certain bacteria that are actually allowed in food and 166 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,200 feed products. So it's a little bit better and 167 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,560 more the Wild West when it comes to supplements and that kind of 168 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:22,560 stuff. You can do more interesting 169 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:27,920 things, but but you know, you have this small list of like 170 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,280 studied probiotics, but I would posit that like I did this in a 171 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,200 presentation once. I, I was talking about, you 172 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,560 know, multiple bacteria and fermented foods. 173 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:41,040 And I said, I was like, here's a bacteria and I kind of like 174 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,560 played the audience in this, but I, I listed this bacteria and I 175 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:47,960 said, here's all the things that this bacteria does. 176 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,360 And it was this long list of like, you know, helps 177 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,240 glutathione pathways and, you know, creates this vitamin and 178 00:09:54,240 --> 00:10:00,520 does all these different things. And so immediately I saw 179 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,120 everybody's head like go down and they're writing down this 180 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,360 bacteria. Like there are many thoughts I 181 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,240 have got to get this bacteria. But my point was don't focus on 182 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,320 that bacteria. Every bacteria is going to have 183 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,240 a list like that of, you know, that's that's a beneficial 184 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,320 bacteria. So when we, I was positing that 185 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,200 we need to essentially focus on getting as many of those good 186 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,160 bacteria as possible because they're all doing things that we 187 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,800 don't even understand yet. And so that's where you kind of 188 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:33,760 revert back to the model from nature. 189 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,400 But you can't just leave it there because just saying 190 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,960 something is good because it's natural as a logical fallacy. 191 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,200 So we can't leave it there. So that's why we do interesting 192 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,080 stuff like, and if you're listening to this, I'm holding 193 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,600 up a piece of paper, which I never do. 194 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,160 I never have reference material. But this is new enough where 195 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,960 like, I couldn't just recall all this from memory. 196 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,520 So don't don't blame me. I've been on you a lot. 197 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,400 Because I actually just started putting the video on Spotify so 198 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,480 people can see it so. Oh, got it. 199 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,800 Well, and I will tell you I was going to send this to you 200 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,080 previously, but there's the we haven't got the final version 201 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,680 from the lab yet and there is like some spelling errors and 202 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:16,040 stuff in it. So I was like I'm going to wait 203 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,400 on that to be able to do that. So, and actually it is a good 204 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,240 moment to shout out, you know, we're doing a lot more with our 205 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,080 vet vet program this year and next week I'm actually sending 206 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,160 all this research and some sample probiotics to all of the 207 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,920 180 plus vets in our. So that will be. 208 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,120 And by the way, green Juju is small enough to where it's 209 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,960 literally me driving up to the plant and sending out, you know, 210 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,120 on over 100 boxes via the the US mail. 211 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,200 The one that we did the clinical research on was soil and soil is 212 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,160 derived from Bailey's blend. So all the probiotics here come 213 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,400 from cilantro, broccoli, green cabbage, you know, everything 214 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:01,680 that's in Bailey's blend. And you know, this was just 215 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:05,520 created in my kitchen. It was, I took Bailey's blind 216 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,440 and added salt to it to intensify the ferment and lower 217 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:16,000 the pH faster and fermented it for an office 3 days or a week, 218 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,600 I can't remember. But I, I fermented it until the 219 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,880 pH was about 3.5 because I knew that's kind of the sweet spot 220 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,920 there. And then I sent it to the lab 221 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,400 and they did their did their thing. 222 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,280 The only one I had problems with was the raw milk sample. 223 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,760 It's hard to get raw milk across the Canadian border. 224 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,280 So eventually I just took raw off of it and they accepted the 225 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,840 sample. So that was good for me. 226 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,280 By the way, I have I have soil in my tea right now. 227 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,640 Yeah, just throw that off there. That's one of those things I I 228 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:55,120 like every day in Mabel's water. Mabel, my daughter, for those 229 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,600 who are don't know about my life, which I don't know why you 230 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:05,080 would, but so every day I put like fiber and soil and whatnot 231 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,440 in her water because she can't like taste them. 232 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,000 And so it's my kind of way to like when you have a four year 233 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,360 old, you got to do everything you can because they start to 234 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,520 get, she's not as piggy as most kids, but she is getting that 235 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,240 way. So that is interesting. 236 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:24,040 So going to this research, So IPL measures specific factors in 237 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,200 relation to the gut And the one, the ones I want to talk about 238 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:31,560 today are in relation to the ability to, for the body to deal 239 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:38,320 with toxins, gut diversity, and mostly and also inflammation. 240 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,000 Because we, we talk about a lot, you know, everything starts in 241 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,760 the gut and inflammation and other gut communicates with 242 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,680 everything just generally. And so that's what I like about 243 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:52,000 this is we've seen so many animals that have gotten better 244 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,880 with baseline conditions just generally in, in that from our 245 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,360 like anecdotal evidence, but that's kind of like, so the 246 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,960 first thing. So there was several factors 247 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,080 this so they, so there's a testing factor and then there's 248 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:14,520 a sort of reporting factor. And so the testing factor is a 249 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,520 little bit different. That has to do with, you know, 250 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,800 finite data and the reporting data has to do with what people 251 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,440 are actually seeing in this. So there's 47 dogs, which is a 252 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,440 great sample size, especially we shot for 50 and to get 47 to 253 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,000 actually do all of this and make this work. 254 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Shout out to IPL because they're really, really great to work 255 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,320 with. I would highly recommend doing 256 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,600 just their Test in general, but they sort of streamlined the 257 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,760 process for everything. So that was a really great 258 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,000 thing. So the thing that they looked at 259 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,960 in the the symptom sort of reduction or the symptoms in 260 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,720 general is frequent infections, panting, flatulence, 261 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,520 Constipation, lethargy, excessive hunger, excessive 262 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,400 licking, skin and coat issues, GI which included vomiting and 263 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,240 diarrhea and then anxiety, which I thought was an interesting 264 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,640 one. Just general and there will be 265 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,240 some interesting data later about size of dogs, which I 266 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,360 thought was pretty funny in relation to their leg symptoms. 267 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,400 So first one to look at was frequent infections. 268 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,520 Those that reported frequent infections, the overall 269 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,160 improvement in the two months was by 91%. 270 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,280 So basically all the dogs that reported frequent infections 271 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:41,520 basically went down to it essentially cleared up all of 272 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,720 those. By the way, I can't are are you 273 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,280 frozen or am I? I am good. 274 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,520 So maybe it's just on your end. Can you hear me at all? 275 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,200 Or is it just the screen that's frozen? 276 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Are you is that better? Can you, can you hear me? 277 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,960 And I go with no better. Yeah, you're good. 278 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,080 I mean, I could hear and see you the whole time. 279 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,600 So I I think we're fine. Oh, you were frozen. 280 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,760 So I I just don't want to, I just don't want to keep rambling 281 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,000 on it. And we couldn't use it. 282 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,840 No, you're good. I will pause though, since we 283 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,480 had this little snafu that all three of the green Juju 284 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,040 probiotics and the innovative pet lab testing are available at 285 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Wild Wellness Pets. So go there and and buy them. 286 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,320 Oh, there you go. Yes, absolutely. 287 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:32,000 So that is a great pause. So, so anyway, so going back to 288 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,040 what I was talking about in terms of the reporting, so they 289 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,160 saw a 91% improvement in frequent infections, which is 290 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,920 really great. And 84% reduction in panting, 291 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:48,760 75% reduction in flatulence, 74% reduction in Constipation. 292 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,560 That's what with both of those, that's what I've really noticed 293 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,080 from our own work with the probiot, with soil and also our 294 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,880 own work with and also people's reporting is that still 295 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,840 consistency just becomes completely consistent over time 296 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,760 after even just like a week of using it, 68% reduction in 297 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:12,160 lethargy, 58% in excessive hunger, 57% in excessive 298 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,520 leaking. That's a big one. 299 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,800 We know, you know, everyone hates when their dog licks their 300 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,440 paws. It's like the other day 301 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,520 Huckleberry licked his paws and Maple was like, ha, stop licking 302 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,200 your paws immediately. So like, you know, it's one of 303 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,400 those things where a 57% reduction is really great, a 51% 304 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,680 reduction in skin and coat issues and for two months 305 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,200 without a diet change. And I should, I should mention 306 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,840 as well, this is a range of diets, kibble fed dogs, raw fed 307 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:46,880 dogs, just all over the board. 47% reduction in vomiting and 308 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,240 diarrhea, which is also great because we know that, you know, 309 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,440 you've probably worked with so many people that just can't find 310 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,440 that right diet as far as getting, you know, something 311 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,600 where they're not having diarrhea a few times a week or 312 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,480 whatever it might be. And so, and then anxiety, we saw 313 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,320 20 percent, 26% reduction, which is really cool as well, which we 314 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:12,000 know that, you know, the gut makeup and gut lining and gut 315 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,920 health, you know, has a strong connection to the brain and, you 316 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,440 know, overall Wellness. But also I think some of that's 317 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,240 connected to dogs just not feeling great and having, you 318 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,120 know, having more anxiety just in general. 319 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,560 So and we'll go back to those those results in just in 320 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,200 general. And I really want to focus on 321 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:39,320 sort of two of these things that we're measuring. 322 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,720 The first one of those is beta glucuronidase. 323 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:47,640 Beta glucuronidase is a really interesting, it's really real 324 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,320 with this packet here. Beta glucuronidase is an 325 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,320 interesting one because what it is, is, you know, it's in all 326 00:18:54,320 --> 00:19:00,000 mammals and it's very negative impact comes from the fact that 327 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,320 it essentially takes things that the liver is trying to remove 328 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,480 from the body, IE toxins and hormones, things like that, and 329 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,280 redistribute and basically stops that second phase of 330 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,840 detoxification and puts those things back into circulation. 331 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,920 So puts them back in the gut and then they go back in the body. 332 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,400 So it stops the phase two detoxification of the liver, 333 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,360 which is a big, huge deal. The people, you know, people on 334 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:27,880 the conventional side are like, yo, we don't need supplements. 335 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:33,440 You have a liver, but like if your liver is working and then 336 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,040 you have all this build up of bad bacteria that that is 337 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,520 providing the substance, is putting it back in the body, 338 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,440 that is really you're just going to run through that cycle, you 339 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,760 know, consistently. And I think that that deals with 340 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,600 a lot of health issues. Did you have something to say 341 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,680 there? I didn't know if you. 342 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,160 No, I mean I'm thinking a lot about different situations and 343 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:58,080 different like dogs that I have worked with and it it 344 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,360 detoxification is. Difficult it's a it's a 345 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:06,120 difficult thing to more difficult to pinpoint in in dogs 346 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:09,080 than than humans just with like the testing that we have 347 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:14,920 available, but it with if the detox pathways aren't open, then 348 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,120 like that work has to be done before anything else we do 349 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,480 because you're you're going to get that backup of toxins in the 350 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:28,600 body and it can create all kinds of effects, including, you know, 351 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,800 mental effects because it's it's going to affect your brain at 352 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,120 some point and make you foggy. Maybe I think some behavior 353 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:39,880 problems even like anger and aggression and it's it's 354 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,680 difficult because you know a lot of people when dogs are having 355 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,920 like aggression issues like their first their first line of 356 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,240 defense is probably punishment. But then, you know, I need a dog 357 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,440 trainer because we need to figure this out when I think our 358 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,560 our first line of defense should always be like, how healthy is 359 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,080 your animal? And then we can look at 360 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,240 training. So yeah, it's just got my brain 361 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,920 going. Very it's very similar to like 362 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,400 diet in that you start with food and then go to supplementation, 363 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,880 you know, if you need it just generally. 364 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,520 So it's and that the in the beta glucuronidase, this is actually 365 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,680 where we saw my opinion really the coolest effect of this 366 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,120 entire thing. So the the first thing is if you 367 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:26,520 look at the so the the starting point, you had, you know, 33 368 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,400 dogs. So keep in mind this was a 47 369 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,680 dog clinical research trial. So you had 33 dogs that were in 370 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,720 the normal range. You had nine that were 371 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,120 borderline for being high in this and then you had five that 372 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:41,920 were absolutely high. So when the study ended, after 373 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:46,480 every two months you had 46 that were in the normal range, you 374 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,680 had zero that were borderline and only one that was high. 375 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,200 So basically every dog went into the normal range when it came to 376 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:58,080 this with beta glucoronidase, which really speaks to the fact 377 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,520 that there is more diversification of bacteria 378 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,760 because you don't have this overwhelming buildup of bacteria 379 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,000 that are making this beta gluconidase. 380 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,400 And also I just lost my train of thought. 381 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,960 That's awesome. So you know, that happens to me. 382 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,640 Oh, and that the the body is able to deal with toxins better. 383 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,480 And this was, by the way, the greatest where it was. 384 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,560 So the total reduction average for beta glucuronidase for all 385 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,560 the dogs in the study was over just over 55%. 386 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,200 So a 55% reduction in beta glucuronidase, which is an 387 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,360 incredible reduction. So if you can say, hey, this 388 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:50,040 marker that test for got diversity ability to you know, 389 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,800 expel toxins for the body improve by 55% or went down by 390 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,920 55%. Those bacteria, however you want 391 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,280 to look at it, that's an incredible thing and that's only 392 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,000 in two months. So that's that for me, that's a 393 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,240 whole body health marker that we look at and we go, oh, OK, this 394 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,160 is this is, this is a very interesting findings of the 47 395 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,920 dot in the by the way, some of the stuff I'm going to read is 396 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,320 from the lab specifically is from the group that analyzes all 397 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,320 this data. So 70% of the dogs started at 398 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,720 baseline in the normal range and 98% finished in the normal 399 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,160 range. So basically fixed every dog's 400 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,680 ranges and 25% of the dogs had higher borderline at baseline 401 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,840 and all that one went into normal range. 402 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,840 So, and that's just in two months of not even switching 403 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,960 anything with the diet, anything like that, just adding soil as 404 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,720 well. So the lab noted that the most 405 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,240 consistent improvement was reduction of beta glucuronidase 406 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,480 levels and that this correlated strongly with the reduction of 407 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,200 physical symptoms like thirst, hunger and diarrhea. 408 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,600 So what they noticed was when you look at the reporting 409 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,760 factor, the symptoms that were associated with high levels of 410 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,720 beta glucuronidase were thirst, hunger and diarrhea. 411 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,800 We all deal with that in our ducts. 412 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,680 And so that was a really interesting thing. 413 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,240 And again, that goes back to, OK, I just gave you this 414 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,600 overarching concept of this is what's happening in the gut, but 415 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,560 how does that actually work in the real world? 416 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,480 And that was how that actually worked. 417 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:22,800 So the the people who ran the study said green juju likely 418 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,040 increase the commensal bacteria, which reduce the opportunistic 419 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,080 bacteria that make beta glucoratidase, which is 420 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,360 interesting because commensal bacteria are those that are 421 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:36,000 there that live in the gut. And I talk a lot about probiotic 422 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,040 bacteria typically are those that don't stay around. 423 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,120 Very often the probiotics that you take, they stay around for 424 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:45,720 like a couple days or a day and they do their work and then 425 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,880 they're out of the system. But you have this commensal 426 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,120 bacteria period. So what this showed was that 427 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,560 soil supports commensal bacteria, whether that means 428 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,360 that the bacteria that are in soil are actually taking up in 429 00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:01,480 the gut permanently or whether they're supporting the ones that 430 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,760 are in the gut. We know that the commensal 431 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,560 bacteria is getting increased there. 432 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:12,440 So just a general higher bacteria for for that. 433 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,480 That is a really interesting. I don't know how to end these 434 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,720 ever. I'm always like, so that's 435 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,400 interesting. But for nerds like myself, I 436 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:28,200 think it's very interesting. So now we move to calprotectin, 437 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,040 which is another substance that. So calprotectin, when you 438 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,600 measure it, it's, it is essentially associated with or 439 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:42,920 by product of the when the body releases. 440 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,480 Why could I not think right now, this is definitely a Friday. 441 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,840 I don't know what like I had a my, my, my 4 year old this 442 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,560 morning had a very strong, she was very strong willed and maybe 443 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,600 I'm still reeling from that, but got it. 444 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,840 OK, I got it. So anyway, calprotectin is 445 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,680 basically the byproduct of when the gut releases white blood 446 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,720 cells in order to fight inflammation in the gut. 447 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,960 So you can measure this Cal protected by going and you can 448 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,200 essentially measure like how many, how much, how much the 449 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,240 body's trying to fight inflammation in the gut. 450 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:26,440 And so when you look at the Cal protecting levels in the dogs 451 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:32,200 don't at the start of the trial, 29 of the dogs were in normal 452 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,200 range, nine were in borderline and nine were high. 453 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,240 So at the end of the trial, 45 were in normal range, one was 454 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,320 high and 1 was borderline. That's where you look at an 455 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,000 what's considered a normal amount of, you know, the body 456 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,320 fighting inflammation in the gut. 457 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,840 So that that speaks to a total reduction of inflammation in the 458 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,520 gut. So now you pair those, you know, 459 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,160 you start to like stack these things on top of each other. 460 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,160 So you start to go, OK, so it's going to help your your dog deal 461 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,040 with toxins, it's going to help increase commensal bacteria, 462 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,240 it's going to help diversify bacteria. 463 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,720 And now we know, now we can say that we also know that it also 464 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,800 reduces inflammation in the gut now, so those are all into 465 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,400 normal ranges. So then you have to talk about 466 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,760 what, what were the like percentage factors that we were 467 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,720 looking at. So the number of fats with Cal 468 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,720 Protect in the normal range, the total of increase was 47% from 469 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:41,760 29 originally, as I mentioned to 45% out of the 47 that were 470 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,920 tested. So the interesting thing about 471 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,520 this was there was 1 extreme outlier removed here and it's 472 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:52,240 because the dog had a parasite which threw off its levels 473 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,560 everywhere. So we actually have the data 474 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,720 with that dog and we have the data without the dog because 475 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,880 it's that's not really a fair assessment of what was 476 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,160 happening, but it's kind of cool because we have the that data as 477 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,960 well, but. So the dog, they didn't know 478 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,200 that the dog had the parasite going into the study. 479 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,760 Yeah. And they figured it out during 480 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,680 it. So that was an interesting. 481 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,520 Yeah. But of those, so when you look 482 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:26,240 at all the dogs minus that one dog, the, the mean for the 483 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,160 reduction in calprotectin was 28%, which I think is a really 484 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,960 significant number. So with that, so not only did 485 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,400 all the dogs go into normal range when it comes to when it 486 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,400 comes to just inflammation in general or how the body's 487 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,120 fighting inflammation, but that the, the average amount of that 488 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,560 went down was 28%, which is I think really significant after 489 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,840 two months to be able to say, look, we're reducing 490 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,360 inflammation essentially 28% in two months. 491 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,080 And so this this is again where it goes back to the whole body 492 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,200 health. So the report also says green 493 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,840 juju resulted in reduced in intestinal inflammation in the 494 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,560 final testing to baseline in over half the dogs. 495 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,080 Some of those dogs started out as normal and maintain normal 496 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,680 and in at least 50% of the dogs all of those went down. 497 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,560 Even in dogs where inflammation rose slightly, I need 1% of them 498 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,440 still saw a deep decrease in beta glucuronidase. 499 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,360 This suggests the supplement works most consistently on the 500 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,920 metabolic microbial level, even if a localized inflammation 501 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,760 takes longer to subside. So even if the dogs protection 502 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,760 went up there, beta Glucoronidix went down, which also suggests 503 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,920 that if you did the supplement longer, you would see a 504 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,200 reduction in that. Just generally, and we do have 505 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,600 questions about that, what would happen if we did it for a year, 506 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,560 what you know, there's a lot of things around that just 507 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,360 generally. So that is something to 508 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,880 consider. So that was a really interesting 509 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,040 thing you look at. And by the way, for the sake of 510 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,680 time, I'm going over the most interesting things to me. 511 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,120 Well. Let me ask you what's up 512 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,440 quickly. Let me ask you really quickly, 513 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,320 and this is aside from the study, obviously, you said OK, 514 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,040 what would happen if I gave this every day for a year. 515 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,280 Do you actually recommend that, or would you recommend rotating 516 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,320 throughout the year between the three? 517 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,080 I would still recommend rotating. 518 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,680 I think that you, I think that we see these results and I think 519 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,160 you would see similar at least in like efficacy you'd see 520 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,520 similar results. Those probiotics are going to do 521 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,960 different things because they're totally different cultures. 522 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,480 But I think that you'll see different results. 523 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,120 And I do think there's value in having thousands of bacteria 524 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,240 which you'll get if you rotate between the three versus versus, 525 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,760 you know, just the perhaps hundreds, right, that are in 526 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000 soil. But usually we say start with 527 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,920 soil and then rotate from them or like if your dog is, you 528 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,040 know, dealing with allergies and you're doing it in support of 529 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,600 that, then do it for until those things subside and then rotate 530 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,840 through them. Or like if you're like me, your 531 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,040 dog has a lot of you know, I use everyday I use soil, but I also 532 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,800 use, I rotate between the other two. 533 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,640 So like Monday would be soil and farm, Tuesday would be soil and 534 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,960 leaf. And then I'm also using, you 535 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440 know, the wild fermented mushroom probiotic and his 536 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,960 rehydration of his food. I feed him raw milk every day. 537 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,960 So he's getting a huge subset like I'm, I'm trying to 538 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,120 diversify his microbiome with as much bacteria as possible, which 539 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,440 is essentially fixed every issue he ever had with any allergies, 540 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,520 gut sensitivity to foods, everything. 541 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,080 I mean, he's like baseline. The only thing I have to do on 542 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,840 the supplement range just to top off that 5% of you know, the 543 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,880 allergies he used to get and I only do it, you know, four 544 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,000 months out of the year is PEA and that stuff works for those 545 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,080 that are. I actually got my mom to do that 546 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,680 and told and got her dog off Apquel. 547 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,160 So for her, that was a big that was a big victory. 548 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,360 So but it just goes to kind of show you that like, you know, I 549 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,720 talk about this a lot, but you know, I think it's a profound 550 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,040 thing when in one week your dog eats an insane amount of candy 551 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,320 around Halloween, which my dog did and was was completely fine. 552 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,480 Just the second time he did it, which was he ate and he ate a 553 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,800 ring pop a candy necklace and one of those like a whole packet 554 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,680 of like maybe I'd gotten like a Wiz mess packet of like hot 555 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,520 cocoa mix. So he ate that entire thing and 556 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,800 didn't even have a soft stool, didn't even raise him 557 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,880 whatsoever. He just was like, all right, 558 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,440 he's kind of a menace. Now, though, like after that 559 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,360 whole candy thing, we have to like when we leave, we put him 560 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,000 in a crate now because he tries to like even non edible things. 561 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,720 He just like will go and like RIP a piece of paper up or 562 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,000 something. So I'm like, he's kind of funny 563 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,000 in that way, but that to me spoke to resilience and we need 564 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,040 dogs to be more resilient. We need dogs that can eat 565 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,080 basically anything. We need dogs that people just 566 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,400 want to have their dog be healthy and then they want to 567 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,560 not focus on this stuff all the time. 568 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,040 And that's I think what these probiotics do essentially. 569 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,920 So the other thing that really interests me here, and by the 570 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,920 way, for anyone watching this, if you reach out to us at 571 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,040 info@greenjuju.com, you too can have everything I'm looking at 572 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,640 right now. The total breakdown of the 573 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:43,440 study, all of the participants, you know, so just an example of 574 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,600 that would be like some of the things we talked about with. 575 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,880 So like with the beta glucuronidase, when we were 576 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,600 looking at baseline and final, you could have this information 577 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,520 where we break down all of the specific dispense, what the 578 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,760 levels were at, how they worked. So that is interesting to me. 579 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,679 The other really interesting thing about this is one of the 580 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:18,800 things that they mentioned is gluten sensitivity and 44% of 581 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,679 the dogs showed a reduction in an immune response to gluten, 582 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,679 which is very non expected, unexpected and interesting. 583 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,280 So that's 21 dogs showing a reduced response and the average 584 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,040 level that it decreased by was 11.2%. 585 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,480 So the, I think the people at the lab thought this was the 586 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,679 most interesting thing, but, and we don't know exactly why I 587 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,320 would posit that it might be because of the, the more your 588 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,800 gut, the more you sort of fix your gut lining, the more you 589 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,880 fix, you know, the more you'll have good commensal bacteria, 590 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,680 the more you have diversity of bacteria, the less you're 591 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,760 probably the healthier your gut is and you're going to have less 592 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,280 of an immune response. But yeah, the average level 593 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,600 decreased by 11.2% and 21 dogs. That is very interesting 594 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,440 actually. That, you know, a ton of dogs we 595 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,760 deal with are eating wheat or anything like that, but there 596 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,960 are a lot of dogs that do. Yeah. 597 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,480 But I think that that speaks to, you know, just general gut 598 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,320 health that, you know, when we, when we look at people who have 599 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,680 gut issues and you know, have celiac and, or have gluten 600 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,840 sensitivity there, there's probably more to that than just 601 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,880 gluten. Given all the factors of, you 602 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,640 know, gluten for other places doesn't make you sick or, you 603 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,360 know, all of the, you know, roundup and all, all of that 604 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,000 stuff that's, that's on these, you know, foods. 605 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,360 I think there's a lot of factors there. 606 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,280 And I think if the more you fix the gut, the less you'll 607 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,480 probably react. At least that's what this 608 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,560 showed. So that was very interesting. 609 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,640 Well, yeah, I mean, and that's where my mind went too is that 610 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,400 so many people have or say they have gluten sensitivities, but 611 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,840 do they really have pest like Roundup sensitivities, pesticide 612 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:09,240 sensitivities and if you are decreasing the beta 613 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,880 glucuronidase, may I say that right and. 614 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,880 And I had to say it over and over to get that right. 615 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,600 So you, you're good on that. And and the body is able to 616 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,800 process out all of those toxins better. 617 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,360 Like maybe that is probably so many different things, but that 618 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,400 is kind of where my my head went with it. 619 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,640 Yeah, that's exactly right. And so some of the stuff even 620 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,800 when you start like measuring this kind of stuff just goes 621 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,160 back to the fact that it just goes back to the fact that we 622 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160 even when we have the final numbers, we just don't know. 623 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,760 You know, the example I always give up that is like when you 624 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,680 make moocha at home and you start with T and which has a 625 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,000 good amount of caffeine and then you ferment it and then it has 626 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,360 way less caffeine and we don't exactly know why other than that 627 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,720 is being metabolized. And so like a lot of times you 628 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,320 have the result and even in some cases when you're measuring the 629 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:11,760 results and clinical data like this, you can sort of, you just 630 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,600 don't know which I, which I think is interesting. 631 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,440 But also the main thing is that it's happening, right? 632 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,440 Like, yeah, yeah, the main thing people would be excited about 633 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:25,320 there is the result versus that. So we also looked at, you know, 634 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,760 because the, the study, you know when we break down the data, the 635 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,000 studies, the study had dogs of all sizes less than 20 lbs of 636 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,880 dogs that were 21 to 60 lbs and large dogs which were considered 637 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,040 61 lbs and over. So it was very consistent 638 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,560 between all of those. So the overall percentage 639 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,040 improvement when we, when we come to baseline average of the 640 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,720 symptoms I mentioned at the beginning versus final 49.6% 641 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:59,920 improvement for small dogs, 56.9% improvement generally for 642 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,760 medium dogs, and it's 62% for large dogs. 643 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,160 So, you know, you can look at that, you can say, oh, well, it 644 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,640 worked best for large dogs, which is great. 645 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,400 But they're all pretty similar. They're all in the same range 646 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,640 where you're looking at some drastic improvements. 647 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,520 And you know, one of the reasons we created this was because 648 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,600 there are a lot of people who don't want to do frozen things. 649 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,240 There's a lot of people who don't want to do all these. 650 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:25,480 So we wanted to create something that was like new and food base 651 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,040 that people could literally just go, oh, it's a powder and put it 652 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,160 in into their into their stuff. I got to plug my computer in, 653 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,280 hang up. I'm really prepared. 654 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,280 So prepared. Very nice. 655 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,760 Luckily it's right behind me so. And so they changed nothing 656 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,280 else. They're eating all different 657 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,720 types of foods. They changed nothing else. 658 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,840 They just were adding soil every day. 659 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,720 And I mean, those are pretty sick. 660 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,520 I mean, for something that's what, like a dollar a day 661 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,720 roughly, I guess depending on the size of your dog, that's a 662 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,600 pretty significant improvement. Give me one second. 663 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,760 Yeah, Behind me does not. That's good. 664 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,560 All right, there we go. Yes, I would agree with you. 665 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,000 It's like it's a small improvement. 666 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:17,280 And you know, I don't know, I think for most people in making 667 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,400 one change like this, it just, it really just depends on where 668 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,320 your priorities are, you know, what you want to kind of like 669 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,680 spend your money on and that that sort of thing. 670 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,120 And the interesting other interesting thing is there's no 671 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,120 reason why this is not a supplement for humans as well. 672 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,320 This could very easily just be a human product, you know, because 673 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,240 they're from the things they're from my home raw yogurt culture, 674 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:43,200 they're from my, you know, kombucha, all of those. 675 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,440 It'd be interesting to do a yeast based kind of study. 676 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,880 I'm saying that. So this I think is really, 677 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,080 really interesting. So going back to the weight of 678 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,400 dogs, like I think that this when they looked at large dogs, 679 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,120 medium dogs, small dogs, I feel like this like exactly played 680 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,600 into the stereotypes of these dogs and and the what they deal 681 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,440 with just generally and what we saw reduction in symptoms. 682 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,480 So in large dogs, large dogs saw the steepest declines in panting 683 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,240 and lethargy. So imagine you're thinking about 684 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:22,360 that big dog sitting there panting, not wanting to move, 685 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,560 etcetera. EDM dogs saw the most consistent 686 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,200 reduction in GI symptoms like flatulence and diarrhea, so 687 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,520 those dropped over 50% Typically, and this is my 688 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,760 favorite one, small dogs less than 20 lbs proved significantly 689 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,920 but retained the highest final scores for anxiety and excessive 690 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,440 licking. How? 691 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,400 Kidding. To every small dog, I'm telling 692 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,880 you everybody's like my small dog, you know, I, I don't do as 693 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,240 many like one-on-one consults now, but like, you know, 694 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,840 everybody's like my small dog licks constantly. 695 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,960 They have anxiety. So I thought it was interesting. 696 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:05,000 The highest final scores for small dogs were in anxiety and 697 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,640 excessively. So it's cool because we can sort 698 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,280 of see this commonality, but it could help at any size really. 699 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,680 And then they noted that frequent infections reach the 700 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,720 lowest final scores across all weight classes, indicating high 701 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,720 efficacy regardless of size. So you know, if your dog is 702 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,640 getting frequently infected by things, you're not going to 703 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,440 achieve health. So that's that is an that is an 704 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,560 interesting one as well. So I just have to like, and I 705 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,840 have to say this because this is how my mind works. 706 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,800 Is it that small dogs have more anxiety? 707 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,240 Or is it that people with anxiety are more apt to adopt 708 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:51,400 small dogs? I think that's a big part of it, 709 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:58,320 honestly. So I mean, I I I am technically 710 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:04,920 in the medium dog range at 28 lbs, but I should actually have. 711 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,360 I say this as a small dog owner. Yeah, yeah. 712 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,760 No, I think that that's probably true. 713 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,360 I think the people who have big dogs typically are like, they're 714 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,680 a dog, you know? Yeah, yeah. 715 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,440 So I should have I should bring Huckleberry at some point. 716 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,040 He's here at the Co working space. 717 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,600 He's just over in his chair being every time I leave to do 718 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,760 something like this, our meeting, he gets like completely 719 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:35,200 fawned over, you know, people at him and they surround him. 720 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,000 No, it's great. He it was like tragically hot 721 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,520 here the last three days. It was like 87°, which for here 722 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,040 is very, very hot. So he couldn't come to work. 723 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,400 So he was very sad because he would jump down when I was at 724 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,160 the door and I was like, I know it's sunny out, but you will die 725 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,560 if I take you on this four mile walk in 87° weather. 726 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,840 So he's very happy to be here today. 727 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,480 He's a great family. So a combination. 728 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:05,760 So this is a combination improvement occurs when multiple 729 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,240 related markers trend positively for the same dog. 730 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,560 So here you look at inflammation control. 731 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,680 So this is combining cow protectant and beta 732 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,360 glucuronidase 25 dogs, 53% showed improvement in both 733 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,440 markers. This combination suggests a 734 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,680 reduction in both active intestinal inflammation and 735 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,520 bacterial enzyme activity that typical typically triggers it. 736 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,280 So that's when you look at sort of combining that just 737 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,560 generally. And I will mention even look at 738 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,240 this Backpage awesome when I was preparing, we will stuff to, you 739 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:46,400 know, work through that. So I did mention at the I did 740 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,560 mention at beginning, we're just going to kind of go over some of 741 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,480 the things. There's a couple other 742 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,640 categories here, but I do I do think it's interesting to to go 743 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,000 through this part which is gut barrier and immune defense, 744 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,320 which in terms of measuring zonulin and IGA. 745 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,040 So the interesting thing seven dogs, which is 15% of the dogs 746 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,200 improved at both. While this was the least common 747 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,400 combination for these specific dogs, for the seven dogs, the 748 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,560 supplement effectively addressed what's known as leaky gut while 749 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,400 simultaneously boosting mucosal community. 750 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,160 So for those seven dogs out of the, IT essentially supported 751 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,800 the gut barrier and also immune defense. 752 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,760 And one of those dogs, because they mentioned too specifically 753 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,720 because I she might watch this at some point, is Mabel Cider 754 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:44,800 who lives in California. And I'll never forget the day 755 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,880 she wrote me on Instagram and she was like, I'm going to name 756 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,720 my dog Maple. And I was like, go for it. 757 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,400 It's like I've met, I've met some dogs named Mabel. 758 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,360 I've just never met another kid named Maple. 759 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,560 So, but so that I thought was interesting as well. 760 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,280 And then this Backpage that I, you know, there's no highlighted 761 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:11,240 material on just some other like little facts here for you. 762 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,440 Digestive efficiency 14 dogs showed improved pancreatic 763 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,280 enzyme output. So for those for those 14 dogs 764 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,200 or 3030%. So looking at that study and 765 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,960 showing that 30%. So when paired with the high 766 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,720 success rate of blue carotidase reduction, that suggests the 767 00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:32,880 supplement is particularly effective at optimizing the 768 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,520 breakdown of food. So that's another one which, you 769 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,440 know, we need to get everything we can out of diet and therefore 770 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,840 we need to sort of be able to break down what we have. 771 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,840 So just going back to what we talked about earlier, even and 772 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,080 even in the dogs where inflammation rose slightly, so 773 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,080 they weren't in that Cal production reduction, 91% of 774 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,240 those dogs still saw a decrease in beta glukronidase. 775 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,080 This suggests the supplement works most consistently on the 776 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,560 metabolic microbial level, again, even if localized 777 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,320 inflammation takes longer to subside. 778 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,560 So the data also shows that physical health markers move 779 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,680 much faster than behavioral ones. 780 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,040 Group wide anxiety remain nearly static, indicating that 781 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,480 behavioral modification may require longer duration than the 782 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,160 physiological intervention period. 783 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,320 So what they were sort of looking at was they were 784 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,520 starting to see improvement in more dogs. 785 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,360 When it comes to the, the anxiety, but they posited you'd 786 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,360 have to do it longer in order to do that. 787 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,840 So, so that's really the breakdown that I wanted to go 788 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,040 through today. And I would encourage you guys 789 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,400 if you want more information and all that to check out the to 790 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,560 e-mail us, get this information and kind of take a look at it. 791 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,520 They really do break it down in a way that's very digestible. 792 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,280 I know that, you know, most people when they look at like a 793 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,200 study, they're like, what is this? 794 00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:03,720 And this is nicely broken down and like presentation style and 795 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,520 you know, they're very thorough over there. 796 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,880 So I know it was a small part, but I actually am very 797 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:15,240 interested in the the pancreatic elastase results. 798 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,400 I you know, dogs, especially dogs with leaky gut or any sort 799 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,640 of dysbiosis, they tend to not digest their foods very well and 800 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,760 absorb nutrients very well. And I think similarly dogs with 801 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,120 any sort of pancreas issues in general, you know, chronic 802 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,040 pancreatitis, it's just it's more difficult for them to be 803 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,920 able to actually utilize breakdown and utilize the 804 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,080 nutrients in their food and they wind up with nutrient 805 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,240 deficiencies oftentimes, which are leading to other issues, 806 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,320 other symptoms that are popping up. 807 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,160 And so that is very benefit. I mean, all of it together 808 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,280 obviously is very beneficial, but that's very interesting to 809 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,800 me. And again, like kind of going 810 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:06,400 back to where I was framing this earlier, I do think there is a 811 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,480 conversation that needs to be had around the vast usage of 812 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,400 kind of mediocre probiotics on the market. 813 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,960 And if that's actually help, I mean, for some dogs that it can 814 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,000 help for a period of time, but especially dogs that just have, 815 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,080 don't have a whole lot of diversity to begin with. 816 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:30,720 But over time, having more diversity and, and what we're 817 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:36,040 supplementing alongside food is, is really important. 818 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,880 And that, I think, is the conversation that needs to be 819 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,720 had moving forward. Yeah, I agree. 820 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:45,280 I think there's a couple points on that, but I agree with you 821 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:52,240 100% when it comes to firstly that like, I think the research 822 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:57,280 itself shows a totality of what the concept was in the very 823 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,200 beginning, right? So it's like the whole point of 824 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,800 this was how do we diversify the gut as much as possible to 825 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,440 affect every part of health? It just just generally. 826 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,080 And that was kind of the opening concept to this, like, oh, dogs 827 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,720 that are exposed to more things become healthier. 828 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,240 And I think what this showed was the actual mechanics to, to how 829 00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:25,400 that works, like the, the basic mechanics of like when you 830 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,760 introduce all these bacteria, here's the different health 831 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,760 markers that we can look at, you know, and here's, here's what's 832 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,760 actually happening in the body. So I think that, that that part 833 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,320 is relevant. And the other part that's 834 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,840 relevant too is like you're, it's exactly what you were 835 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,920 talking about getting. Everyone has probiotics and 836 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,240 everything. And they're, they're, that's at 837 00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:46,160 least there's one part of that that's heading the right 838 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,200 direction. Because traditionally in pet 839 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,320 food, it was always my dog or cat is sick. 840 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,960 Therefore, they need a probiotic. 841 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,680 But what dogs and cats need generally is as much probiotic 842 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,680 diversity as possible at all times. 843 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,280 And that's what humans need too, in order to just be generally 844 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,720 healthy. And so when you look at 845 00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:06,720 something like that, you say we need to shift our mindset away 846 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:12,800 from dogs need this one particular from two things. 847 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,360 Number one, dogs don't need it and cats don't need it unless 848 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,840 they're sick. That's the first myth, right? 849 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,000 If you go back, you know, 20 years, nobody was like, there 850 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,440 wasn't very much going on in probiotics and pet food. 851 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,720 None of the foods had probiotics, anything like that. 852 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:30,320 So then you're introducing these dogs to sterile environments 853 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,440 and, you know, living in our homes, more sterile environments 854 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,720 and you're going like, oh, you know, they're not exposed to 855 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,520 very much bacteria at all. So the first part is any move 856 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,520 away from that? And the second part is we need 857 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,000 to, you know, I think what this helped show and illustrate, and 858 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,240 I think we've been seeing this in dogs and cats from eating 859 00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:50,040 fermented foods and that kind of thing for so many years is we 860 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,640 need to move away from, hey, we did a bunch of research on this 861 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,320 one strain and we know that it does XY and Z doesn't mean that 862 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,160 that can't help in that particular setting because it 863 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,840 really can't. A good example that would be 864 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,440 like Saccharomyces Bilardi. We know it's very effective at 865 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,800 certain things, but we maybe need to move away from that in 866 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,160 general and move towards a base of diversity. 867 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,720 And that's what you can do with these probiotics. 868 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:20,680 You can actually use the, you can use, you could rotate 869 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,040 between these three and still feed other things with bacteria. 870 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,680 You can even still add probiotics if you wanted to do 871 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,680 that. You could rotate them with other 872 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,200 brands like Adored the East or whatever you're doing just to 873 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,160 get more sort of like diversity in there. 874 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,880 And, and it's that baseline of a bunch of bacteria versus 875 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,040 potency, which is, hey, we have 2.5 billion bacteria and it's 3 876 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,600 strains. Well, if you open farm, you're 877 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,040 going to have at least 3000 strains between that 2.5 billion 878 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,400 bacteria. So that's where we, we want to 879 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,640 go. We want diversity over potency. 880 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,680 And I, I think that that fits now with what we're seeing in 881 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,000 human research, with what we're seeing in, you know, whatever 882 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,200 pet research is happening. But we, we want to be on the 883 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,200 forefront of that and go well. How do we maximize the fact that 884 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,640 we're, you know, doing that well? 885 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,240 I. Appreciate that y'all are doing 886 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,360 the research because it takes a lot of time and money and effort 887 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:26,560 and energy and it it's it's needed unfortunately, because 888 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:31,840 everybody is skeptical of anything that is good for us 889 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,040 these days. It's like, no where are the 890 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,480 studies if like you started out like, well, my dog is doing 891 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,800 better. Do I really need a study? 892 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,000 You know, some people do. So I appreciate that and I 893 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,240 appreciate everything really that Green Juju has done and is 894 00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:49,560 doing. So yeah, I don't, I don't. 895 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,000 I mean, obviously I'm just not going to sit here for another 896 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,760 hour and gush over Green Juju, but I do appreciate it. 897 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,960 And I appreciate you coming on and talking about it and just 898 00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:03,720 letting people know that like, yeah, you're really into putting 899 00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:07,280 out these really great products, but you also want people to 900 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,280 understand how they're, I'm going to move the needle for 901 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,400 their animals. Yeah, it's like the next step, 902 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,960 you know, it's, it's the way that we look at that and we say 903 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,760 like, you know, how do we reach those people that I, I think 904 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,440 you'd need information like this as much as you could possibly 905 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,920 get it. And then, you know, and I'm 906 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,440 excited to see, you know, when we, when more of this is just 907 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,720 out in the world in general, how, how people you don't 908 00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:36,800 perceive that we're interested in doing more of that generally, 909 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,520 you know, we're always working on interesting and weird and non 910 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,240 weird stuff. So there's more to come from 911 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,720 Korean juju. There's some interesting, really 912 00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:48,120 interesting stuff happening right now. 913 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,880 So, you know, we, we, we often talk about like, let's just slow 914 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,640 it down a little bit, you know, take a break, but not take a 915 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,480 break. But let's focus on we have and 916 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,160 then we have ideas. And, you know, that's where 917 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,280 that's where it is. Yeah. 918 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,680 Well, and I did just get my hands on for the first time the 919 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,600 new extras line. So we're going to give that a 920 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,040 try here very soon. Very exciting. 921 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,200 You did. OK Cool. 922 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,800 Yeah. It's finally like the frozen 923 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,200 version is starting to be out and about. 924 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,640 And that is it. It's a really interesting food. 925 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,280 It's just like, it's like our LED line in that it's formulated 926 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,000 differently. But boy, dogs and cats love that 927 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,600 food. And Huckleberry specifically, I 928 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,640 even thought about like, should I just feed him the chicken and 929 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,880 Turkey like and just rotate the tune because he likes them so 930 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,720 much more? But I didn't arrive at that 931 00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:41,400 conclusion when I thought through it. 932 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,160 But he is just by far his favorite and we're getting that 933 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,960 across the board. So I'm happy that that's hey. 934 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,400 Well, thank you so much for joining us again, Billy. 935 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,120 I really appreciate it, your time and everything that you're 936 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,400 doing. And you're always welcome back. 937 00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,600 Always happy to be here. All right guys, give your pets 938 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,360 some extra love from me and from Billy today, and I will talk to 939 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:07,640 you again next week. Before you go, if today's 940 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,560 episode got you thinking about what's really going on beneath 941 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,480 the surface for your pet, don't forget to check out Wild 942 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,160 Wellness pet.com. 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