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Welcome back, pet parent. 
Today's episode is a little 

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different, but I think 
incredibly interesting. 

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So our guest today is Samantha 
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She is the founder and CEO of 
CBH Energetics and Pet Medela. 

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What they do is bio, it's 
bioenergetic testing. 

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And the, the thing with 
bioenergetic testing is that 

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some people hate it, some people
love it, and most people are 

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like, what is this simple? 
I've been using bioenergetic 

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testing for dogs and cats for a 
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And I just I'm really excited to
have you on Samantha. 

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I want to hear your story and 
all about this. 

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But first of all, let's get you 
on the podcast and welcome you 

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to the Pet Parenting Reset. 
How are you doing today? 

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Thanks, Jessica. 
I'm good. 

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Yeah, I'm excited to be here and
chat about bioenergetic testing.

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Yeah, it's it's a very 
interesting topic that again, 

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some people are like, yes, some 
people are like, no, most people

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are just like, what the heck are
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One thing I always like to start
with, anytime I talk to any, 

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especially somebody who's like 
really science driven is I'm 

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always like pull out, pull out 
whatever cards I have. 

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And I'm like, well, guess what? 
Even you know, Albert Einstein 

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said everything is energy, 
right? 

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Yes. 
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like you don't create it, you 
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It's just constantly in motion, 
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And I think that first of all, 
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really think about it, that's 
actually kind of really 

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beautiful. 
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that you guys do with CBH 
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here for people in their pets. 
Give us some guidance. 

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And I, I can go into this quite 
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off by talking about like the 
history of this for you because 

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I know this is very deeply 
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love to hear your story about 
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All right, pet parents, you 
already know that I talk all the

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time about needing to stop as 
much as we possibly can, feeding

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our fur babies garbage, for lack
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That's what we talked about here
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And again, doing the best we 
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That is the message above any 
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The more we. 
Learn the more we know we need 

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to make some changes and this 
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Biome. 
I want to like start off by 

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talking about like the history 
of this for you because I know 

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this is very deeply personal for
you and I would love to hear 

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your story about that. 
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And you know, if we would be 
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testing and I didn't have my 
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personal, I might be one of 
those people that would roll my 

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eyes to it as well. 
So I, I, I preface it with, 

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with, with that, but I actually 
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college to become a dietitian 
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was like, this doesn't quite 
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And so then I switched to an 
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So I have my undergrad in 
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I, I love science. 
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When I first moved to Chicago, I
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just loved it and went on a 
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And I went on this cruise with 
some friends and it was, I 

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believe it was a week long and I
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I stayed up too late, I drank 
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system down just like most of us
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20s. 
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and I just thought that I maybe 
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But then you know, it was just 
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pain, fatigue, headaches. 
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progressing so much that I was 
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after one month time. 
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and it was crushing pain, like 
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understand how someone made it 
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because there's zero quality of 
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I then started also losing 
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I couldn't remember my own name.
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I really have four years of my 
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I was taken to doctor after 
doctor after doctor, poked, 

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prodded, looked at in every 
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wrong with me. 
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like, there is nothing wrong. 
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your MRI was perfect. 
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like. 
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appointments and I remember 
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because it's like they make you 
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doctors could be wrong, I'm 
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mind. 
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hospital for a full month in in 
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the ones that were going to help
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And they they just taught me how
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the inability to do the things 
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independent in taking my own 
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that point, I was able to manage
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You know, I was able to sit on 
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And I met this woman online and 
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people that have been through 
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You need to go see this doctor 
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So we got an appointment with 
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sitting there with him, he used 
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use at Pat Medulla on CBH. 
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minutes, he's like, this is all 
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And I remember pausing because 
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Lyme disease dozens of times and
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And he was just like, OK, well, 
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Good luck on your journey or 
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You're going to take this 
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homeopathy, herbs, things like 
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You're going to do this cleanse,
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He really laid it out for me. 
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little bit of money left, not 
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In that six months, I got to the
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and deciding if I was going to 
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engineer or if I was going to go
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medicine, which is of course, 
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It's one of those things where I
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I was on my knees and, and you 
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keep going on because when you 
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when you have, you don't have 
your health, you don't have your

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family or friends or literally 
you're just kind of rotting 

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alone in a room. 
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yourself, what am I doing? 
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saying I can't do another day 
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person, but I couldn't do it 
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was something that was kind of a
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happen or not. 
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it was kind of like just this 
moment, this glimmer of, I don't

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know what was wrong with me at 
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ever figured it out, I was going
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others that struggled like I 
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back to my career or do I go 
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It's like that pivotal moment 
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And back then I went and I found
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the Midwest where there was a 
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disease. 
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of that area and started my 
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one-on-one, but I wanted to help
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So I was seeing clients for 1212
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breaks or diet or anything like 
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help people. 
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and, and around the same time, 
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the time, Mila, sweet little 
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that time, maybe 8 or 9. 
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acting the way she was. 
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catalyst along with my burnout. 
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way. 
Like I've got to be able to help

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more people and yet not burn 
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thinking, how can we start to 
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able to see more people but also
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degree and everything that I've 
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had been running for high at 
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a three month wait list of 
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me, I was able to work with the 
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point where not only can we now 
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saliva as well, but now we can 
build more systems and have more

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technicians that are working 
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being one person only seeing 
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So Mila, the interesting thing 
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the connection we have with our 
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things like that, she started to
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old. 
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So yeah, Lyme is so interesting 
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So incredibly hard. 
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thinking like, first of all, 
it's hard for women to get a 

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diagnosis for anything, period. 
Like it's just insanity what we 

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go through. 
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Insanity. 
I can't tell you how many people

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I've seen online who are women 
I've seen online who are like I 

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must be crazy, like just like 
you said, like I must be crazy 

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that this just why I can do it. 
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the degree you had it with with 
lime, but I definitely had 

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something as far as like the 
medical side, similar where I 

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went through testing for years 
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And then all they kept telling 
me was there's nothing wrong 

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with me. 
They don't know what's like. 

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Why? 
Like how are we in? 

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And I did what you did? 
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out on my own and figure out 
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And it's just been this whole 
thing where I've changed 

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everything, just about 
everything in my life and 

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learned about culture, processed
foods and seed oils and, you 

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know, making sure I'm actually 
properly monitoring my hormone 

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cycles and making sure like I'm 
doing blood tests on my own now 

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that my doctors were never do 
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Like it's insanity. 
Like what? 

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What we have to do for ourselves
as women, right? 

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Well, and it's like we're pushed
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Yeah. 
It's such a beautiful thing. 

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And I mean, it's, it's madding 
to think about how much work you

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have to put into something that 
other people it just don't come 

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so easily for, you know, or 
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issues or pet that has chronic 
health issues, where it's just 

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like it takes so much more work 
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But at the same time, you know, 
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turning lemons into lemonade 
because it's like we're brought 

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to this for a reason. 
And I mean, look what you're 

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doing, spreading your knowledge 
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to people across the world. 
So, you know, there's there's 

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definitely that purpose and in 
all this pain. 

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start with with what is 
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That's probably where most 
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even talking about here? 
Right, right. 

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bioenergetic testing, a super 
simple explanation of biology 

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and physics coming together to 
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The biology is the hair and the 
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pets, fur and the saliva. 
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that hurts measurement. 
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we're testing. 
So hair and saliva, really any 

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cells in our body, they emit A 
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If you think about those protons
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every single cell, it creates 
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And that vibration tells us so 
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the health of these cells in 
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way too high, that's going to be
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resonating really low in their 
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there's a very weak area. 
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care on saliva and and test all 
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that vibrational pattern coming 
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for example, if the liver is 
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perfect balance according to the
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If it jumps up to 80 Hertz, 
that's more heat, that's more 

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inflammatory. 
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it's very weak, maybe 
degenerative. 

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Deficiency, yeah. 
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And then we look more at any 
other patterns that might come 

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into that biofield. 
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about a specific parasite, 
parasite has its own vibrational

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pattern that's unique, kind of 
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Well, when it comes into your 
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it's all of a sudden impacting 
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kind of gets trapped there. 
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about bioenergetic testing is it
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actually during our testing 
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patterns have come into your 
field and are negatively 

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impacting you. 
So we get real specific with a 

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variety of different toxins, 
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viruses and parasites and metals
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bringing your liver down or over
exciting your thyroid, whatever 

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it might be in that specific 
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nutritional deficiencies or food
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And so once we kind of take this
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where you're holding stress to 
what level. 

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But then more importantly, why? 
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great, but if we don't know why 
your thyroid might be the way it

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is, it's just, it's kind of 
almost useless because you could

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put a Band-Aid on there. 
But we want to get to the root 

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of it. 
Is there a specific virus? 

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Is there a specific deficiency? 
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how to get it balanced. 
It's a very beautiful way to 

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kind of step back and look at 
someone as a whole person versus

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trying to spot fix things, which
then people just end up taste 

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chasing their tail. 
Yeah, I, well, when you were 

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talking about that, when you 
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in my mind was I, I haven't seen
it in forever. 

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And now I want to like go back 
and find it. 

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But I used to see videos on 
TikTok of people who would take,

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I don't even know what the 
device was, but it was like they

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would go to different plants and
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attach one into a petal and one 
into a leaf or something. 

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And it like they all had, it was
like music, but it was all 

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different. 
Every single plant had a 

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different like musical pattern 
that it was it's, it's really 

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beautiful actually, to like sit 
and listen to it, but. 

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And that's your. 
Point that's exactly what this 

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is to, you know, because 
everything has its own pattern. 

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The vitamin D has its own 
signature. 

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Borrelia burgdorferi, the 
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its own signature, the 
sensitivity for a gluten for 

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gluten, it has its own 
signature. 

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So that's the beauty of being 
able to have these specific 

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signatures, but then tap into 
you're here in saliva to see 

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what's actually throwing it out 
of balance. 

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Yeah, it's so interesting. 
And in your story about the Lyme

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is also really interesting to me
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about these tests differently 
than how I've been explaining 

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them to people for a couple of 
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those people like that. 
I'm like, OK, where is the 

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science, right? 
Like what is the, what is the 

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debt? 
What is really happening here? 

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And how can we use this data 
properly? 

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Like I, that's how my brain 
works too, but I have definitely

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used bioenergetic testing with 
so many dogs and a handful of 

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cats at this point. 
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like with your, your story with 
Lyme, it's like, does it even 

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matter if we're making progress 
now that we have this 

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information? 
You couldn't, no doctor could 

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prove that you had Lyme. 
But then you went through the 

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protocol and it was like, well, 
it doesn't even matter if that 

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was a diagnosis or not. 
I'm good now, right? 

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Exactly. 
Yeah. 

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You know, there's the name and 
blame. 

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And I don't even look at that 
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if someone has an ailment. 
I don't, I don't really care 

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what that diagnosis is because 
it's like. 

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Well, it's, it's that name and 
blame where in bioenergetics 

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look, let's just look at the 
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you, because then maybe that 
that name that you're looking 

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for doesn't matter. 
But so many people that have 

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dealt with chronic issues, I 
think we've, we strive to know 

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exactly what is causing us to 
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we know how to target it. 
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bioenergetics is it's just 
taking that look at someone in 

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their entirety to understand 
where are you right now? 

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Because where you might be in 
two months from now could be 

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drastically different. 
And that's often the case 

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because when we're analyzing 
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not like a genetic test. 
It's not like, you know, this is

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what you're predisposed to. 
It's more this is where you are 

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in this moment in time. 
And we always kind of use that 

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analogy of an onion. 
So we're looking at what's at 

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that outer layer of stress and 
toxins and imbalances because 

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that's going to be the easiest 
layer to work on clearing first 

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or fortifying first. 
Because then in a subsequent 

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test, we've cleared that layer 
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And at that point, we might see 
different organ stagnation, we 

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might see different 
deficiencies, different toxins 

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because they were buried or 
covered by things that needed to

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come off first. 
So the way we approach testing 

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and and working with clients is 
very methodical because someone 

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could say, yeah, I've been bit 
by a tick, I just want to start 

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addressing killing off Borrelia.
But if someone one has heavy 

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metals or other parasites that 
are priority first, we could 

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potentially make that person 
feel a whole heck of a lot worse

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if we just go straight to the 
thing we think it is for without

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testing to see what's that 
priority factor first. 

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Because it doesn't need to be 
some wretched detox for for a 

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human or an animal. 
But sometimes, as you know, like

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a heavy metal cleanse or 
something like that, that's a 

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tough one. 
Regardless of where it's at, if 

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it's a priority or not. 
Lots of times those can be 

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pretty rough. 
Yeah, yeah, I agree. 

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I agree with that. 
So, OK, talking about doing 

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these things, how, how, what 
does sample collection, what 

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does this whole process look 
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Whether it's for a human or for 
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does this look like? 
It's super duper easy. 

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So the order test kit online and
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their house once they get it in 
the mail, there's a little 

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registration card in there where
they register online, take 

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either their own or their 
animals saliva samples with just

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a simple little vial like this. 
It's just a quick little cheek 

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swab. 
And then for the hair, it can be

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from anywhere in the body from 
the ends. 

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It doesn't have to be from the 
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It can be like if it's a male 
and they have chest hair or leg 

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hair, that's no problem. 
Or if someone has no nails, 

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babies, we can use fingernails. 
Or if we have a dog that doesn't

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have a lot of hair, a cat that 
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can use trimmings from from 
their toenails as well. 

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And so just a simple collection 
of that hair and saliva and then

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just popped right back in the 
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Once we receive that from that 
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business days. 
And then we have those results 

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ready right on their dashboard 
where they can look through all 

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of their results. 
They can talk to one of our 

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consultants or practitioners and
they can then order their 

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remedies that specifically 
tested for them right from the 

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website and then it's sent right
to their house. 

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And then in a perfect world that
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that regimen for about 30 days. 
So the formulas tweaking their 

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diet, if they've talked to the 
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couple of bio hacks and then 
test again. 

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And we've seen that that sweet 
spot is about 3 scans 

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back-to-back, sort of like, you 
know, you didn't take you 

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overnight to get where you're 
at. 

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It's not going to take you 
overnight to get back. 

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And so, so three months, roughly
3-4 months is usually that sweet

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spot. 
But it really depends. 

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I'm sure you see this as well, 
but how long someones been sick 

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or how long an animal has been 
sick oftentimes can indicate how

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long it might take them to get 
better. 

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So our general rule of thumb is 
one month for every year. 

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So if someone's really had a 
stubborn health issue for five 

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years, it could be about 5 
months worth of consistent 

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testing. 
Yeah, I, I totally agree with 

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that. 
I have so many dogs that have 

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just gone, it's so many years of
their lives. 

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And I actually, for, for dogs 
that have been on 

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immunosuppressants, I've, I find
it takes longer to get them back

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to, you know, a state where like
everything's good, we're all 

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happy and healthy again. 
It definitely for me, I find 

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that it, it does take longer 
than the like one month per year

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old. 
But that's, you know, has just 

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been my experience with because 
it gets so bad. 

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So, and it gets so much worse, 
so much quicker when they're on 

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immunosuppressants. 
But that's a whole lot of 

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things. 
Yeah. 

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Well, and it does. 
And we have to take into 

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consideration too, like the 
world that we live in. 

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We're not drinking pure water, 
we're not breathing pure air. 

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You know, there's there's a lot 
of things that we have to combat

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and that's it can get tough when
it's not the cleanest world that

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we're living in. 
Yeah, for sure. 

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So one of the things, and we 
were kind of kind of talking 

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about this a little bit before 
we hit record that I think is 

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really interesting. 
And I I don't know if you have 

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seen people do this, but the 
like how how things in a human's

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life or a pet's life kind of 
like mirror each other. 

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Do you see a lot of people 
running the tests like 

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simultaneously between like them
and their pets and seeing like a

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lot of the same things coming 
up? 

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Oh yeah, yeah, we see that all 
the time. 

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And it's, it's freakishly common
to see very similar patterns. 

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And you know, I think that's 
just, if you think about how 

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close we are with our animals, 
they hold our energy, we hold 

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theirs. 
So there's just that aspect in 

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itself. 
But then we also live in the 

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same environment as them, you 
know, so for, for example, sweet

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lab Max, he's a 11 1/2 year old 
yellow lab. 

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He, I mean, he's consistently 
tested and we consistently come 

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up with a lot of the same things
because we live in the same 

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environment, you know, like we 
live in a community that's 

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pretty heavily sprayed with 
pesticides and herbicides with, 

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you know, all the golf courses 
around and things like that. 

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And so we go for a walk. 
We're all exposed to that, you 

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know, we are all breathing that 
same air. 

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And I'll tell you right now with
a lot of the Canadian fires that

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have been having that smoke blow
down to the to the Midwest here 

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especially, we are seeing a ton 
of lung stress in a lot of 

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people and pets right now with 
that. 

447
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,960
And we also see a lot of 
patterns in different other 

448
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,200
areas of the country as well. 
A lot of patterns like mold in 

449
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,280
Florida especially, lots and 
lots of mold within families, 

450
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960
not only the kids and parents, 
but their animals coming up with

451
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,960
the same molds. 
And so we see a lot of those 

452
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,320
kind of patterns frequently and 
also patterns even within pets. 

453
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,240
So if, for example, we have two 
pets being tested within the 

454
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,560
same household, it's super 
common to see a lot of the same 

455
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,640
parasites, a lot of the same 
efficiencies because they're 

456
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,360
often being fed the same things 
or out in the same yards, you 

457
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,680
know, licking each other's 
bowls, things like that. 

458
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,640
So we see a lot of that 
commonality too. 

459
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,680
Yeah, I think it's pretty common
knowledge at this point. 

460
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,960
I think, I don't know, maybe 
maybe I'm wrong, that people 

461
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,720
living in the same household, 
people and pets, like we kind of

462
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,400
share microbiomes and there's 
just no getting around it. 

463
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,520
There's isn't. 
So like, you know, be very 

464
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,680
cautious of who you decide to 
live with. 

465
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,600
Right. 
Be very cautious. 

466
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,400
But yeah, that the whole 
glyphosate thing. 

467
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,800
Oh my gosh, and the what is the 
one they they replaced it with 

468
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,600
starts with ADI can't remember 
now the new one because they had

469
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,320
to round up how to take it out 
of the like commercial one that 

470
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,600
people can buy. 
Like I can't recall it as off. 

471
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,320
The top of my head, yeah. 
I can't either, but that's like 

472
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,880
45 times worse for us than 
glyphosate, which is so 

473
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,760
wonderful. 
Thank you so much, Monsanto. 

474
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,600
That yeah, study. 
And again, I can't remember if 

475
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,680
it's, I think it's Parkin. 
It's either Alzheimer's or 

476
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,760
Parkinson's. 
Like if you live on or near a 

477
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,280
golf course, it's like the rates
of these diseases are. 

478
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Just off the chart, Yeah, the 
neurological issues for sure. 

479
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,920
It's crazy, yeah. 
Yeah, I actually did have a pet 

480
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,440
parent who I was doing a leaky 
gut protocol with her dog 

481
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,480
anyway. 
But she, unlike our third call, 

482
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,640
I think she was like, Oh yeah, 
by the way, we're just finishing

483
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,680
up like mold remediation in the 
house and her and her kids are 

484
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,040
doing this like mold detox. 
And I was like, that's actually 

485
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,960
like, really good for me to know
because we're going to need to 

486
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,760
do a mold detox for your dog 
too. 

487
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,160
And she was like, I didn't think
about that. 

488
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,480
And I'm like, yeah, yeah. 
Yes, yes. 

489
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,960
Thank you for telling me because
we're not, we're only going to 

490
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,160
get so far if I don't know that 
your dog has been exposed in 

491
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360
mold, right like. 
Exactly. 

492
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,800
Oh my goodness. 
But it is. 

493
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,960
It's just one of those things 
that's like, we don't always 

494
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,160
think about these things 
impacting our pets the way they 

495
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,520
do, and oftentimes even more so.
Cats are the most toxic animals 

496
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,280
on the planet for so many 
reasons. 

497
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,840
They. 
Are so much. 

498
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,440
Smaller than most dogs and 
certainly humans. 

499
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,880
And then their Paul ads are 
picking up everything. 

500
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,080
They generally don't get outside
to off gas. 

501
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,960
It's like they're stuck in this 
like 4 walls where you can get 

502
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,160
out, you can get out and you can
off gas. 

503
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,480
You're wearing clothes, you're 
not absorbing through your feet 

504
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,080
all the time. 
You're at least wearing like 

505
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,360
socks or shoes or something. 
And yeah, it's really, it's 

506
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,320
really kind of crazy to me the, 
the environmental stressors that

507
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,000
we unknowingly oftentimes put 
our pets through, which is 

508
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,040
another reason why I like the 
multiple tests that you have, 

509
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,040
especially on the. 
I haven't I should have looked 

510
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,920
on the CBH, but I was looking on
the PET Medela because you can 

511
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,560
just do food sensitivities or 
you can do like the whole scan. 

512
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,960
So you can you tell me like the 
difference in those two and what

513
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,080
people can expect? 
Yeah. 

514
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,240
So the sensitivity scan is just 
that we're testing for both food

515
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,880
and environmental sensitivities.
So we test against 350 different

516
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,760
possible triggers and then 
that's a standalone and that's 

517
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,160
all it is. 
And it's, it's a great scan for 

518
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,000
people that want to know just 
that. 

519
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,080
But once you get those results 
back and you see a slurry of 

520
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,760
different things coming up, I'm 
guessing most people will be 

521
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,520
like, well, why? 
Because it's not normal to have 

522
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,560
a sensitivity to chicken and 
eggs and beef. 

523
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,240
And you know, it's not normal 
for animals to have all these 

524
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,120
sensitivities. 
And so that's why I always urge 

525
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,920
people to start with a full 
scan, because the full scan will

526
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,360
give us that deeper 
understanding of why an animal 

527
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,920
might have those sensitivities. 
And that full scan is looking at

528
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,000
the entire body. 
So we test 14 different systems 

529
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,880
to see what level of stress 
within each. 

530
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,040
So for example, if there's a 
weak digestive system, an 

531
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,640
inflamed immune system, and we 
do the whole body. 

532
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,640
And then from there we start to 
hammer down what the YS. 

533
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,080
So we look at the food 
sensitivities, deficiencies, 

534
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,040
toxins, hormones, and then we 
test for a regimen. 

535
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,240
So it's a very complete test, 
but the the big benefit of doing

536
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,800
the full scan to start is, for 
example, if we see an animal 

537
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,600
testing for all these different 
foods that are kind of fattier 

538
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,760
foods, right away, it makes me 
think, is their liver OK? 

539
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,400
You know, do they have, why are 
they not digesting their fats? 

540
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,880
And if we can get to the root of
that, then over hopefully a 

541
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,800
short amount of time, they're 
going to not have that 

542
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,840
sensitivity to all those fatty 
things like a salmon or coconut 

543
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,720
oil and things like that. 
So if you do the sensitivity 

544
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,120
scan, that's great because 
you'll know exactly what to 

545
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,600
avoid, but it doesn't give you 
that full picture of like, well,

546
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,600
why do I need to avoid it? 
Because if we can get to the 

547
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,040
root of it in the first place, 
then over time we don't have to 

548
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,240
avoid it so diligently. 
And so I like to start with the 

549
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,640
full scan, but then a lot of PET
parents like to do the 

550
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:18,560
sensitivity scan maybe once or 
twice a year thereafter, just to

551
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,960
see if they can start to add 
certain foods back. 

552
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,280
Yeah, yeah, that makes so much 
sense. 

553
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,320
So what about for humans? 
So for humans, same concept, you

554
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,120
know, it's in a lot of people 
like that sensitivity scan. 

555
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,400
But I again want to know like, 
well, why do I have to avoid 

556
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,440
this sugar or this vegetable? 
I mean, it's crazy how many 

557
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,920
people come back with vegetable 
sensitivity sometimes and 

558
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,800
usually there's a lot of gut 
things going on when that's. 

559
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,560
The case for sure. 
So always starting with the full

560
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,200
scan is my favorite, but we have
quite a few other scans as well 

561
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,800
with on the within the human 
side. 

562
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:58,120
So our most recent 1 is a brain 
scan and that one, it has been 

563
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,040
just incredible, especially for 
folks that are struggling with 

564
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,800
anything cognitive. 
So Miss ALS, ADD, autism, 

565
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,159
anxiety, sleeplessness, like all
the things. 

566
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:12,520
And it's very different than the
full scan in terms of the report

567
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,840
itself, but in the same concept 
of where are you holding stress 

568
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,280
in your brain? 
And then from that bioenergetic 

569
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,719
perspective, why? 
Which gives us that ability to 

570
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,560
understand how to improve it. 
And we have other smaller 

571
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,880
subsets than on the CBH side for
humans. 

572
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,639
So smaller subsets of that full 
scan, which is nice because then

573
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,960
someone may be in between full 
scans, they want to do a smaller

574
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,480
like balancing scan where we're 
just looking at hormones, 

575
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,679
nutrients, toxins. 
And then we test for a balancing

576
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,600
regimen to. 
And we even have a test that's 

577
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,480
called a remedy scan for both 
pets and people where it's 

578
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,719
literally just testing to see 
what remedies do balance with 

579
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,120
right now to make sure you're 
taking a customized formula 

580
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,360
blend that's ideal for you. 
Because I don't know about you, 

581
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,120
but I mean, I love supplements. 
So of course I'm like, oh, I 

582
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,280
think I need that, that, that, 
Yeah. 

583
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,320
And I could be. 
Taking thousands of dollars. 

584
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,200
Of supplements every month, but 
I don't I test to see exactly 

585
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,400
what I need that one and then 
because the body's constantly 

586
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,720
changing. 
Yeah. 

587
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,160
So what is it? 
Is it like homeopathics or how 

588
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,120
does what is the testing for? 
Yeah. 

589
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,480
So we have hand plucked some of 
our favorite lines from 

590
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,480
different manufacturers and some
of them are homeopathic, some of

591
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,640
them are herbal, and then some 
are your more foundational 

592
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,800
supplements, vitamins, minerals,
amino acids, things like that. 

593
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,080
Yeah, so and oftentimes you'll 
see a blend that you might see, 

594
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,280
especially in the human side 
that we like that trio where you

595
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,000
get that the herb, the 
homeopathic, and then the 

596
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,480
supplementation. 
Supplementation kind of comes in

597
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,720
as that foundational support 
that that person's deficient in 

598
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:57,080
or that they just need for their
body to function and at an 

599
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,080
optimal level, then you can 
herbal leg. 

600
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,280
And that herbal leg is doing 
that job for the body and it's 

601
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,680
nice and potent. 
And then the homeopathic leg 

602
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,760
comes in and sort of like, OK, 
body, remember how to do this on

603
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,760
your own. 
You don't need to stay on all 

604
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,720
these things forever. 
We want you to remember how to 

605
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,480
do it. 
So that trio is really powerful.

606
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,280
Yeah, that's, that's really 
cool. 

607
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,120
And I think, I mean, there are 
certainly like some me, I'm just

608
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,440
thinking about me right now 
selfishly. 

609
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Like there are certainly some 
supplements that I'm like, I 

610
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:34,040
feel like I always need like 
beef organs and Omega threes and

611
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,000
like because I'm just, I know 
how I eat, right? 

612
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,360
Like I know I don't need organs 
and I know that I'm not a big 

613
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,640
seafood fan. 
And like I just know that I need

614
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,200
these things and those are just 
kind of going to kind of be in 

615
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,000
my rotation all the time. 
But the other thing this, like 

616
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,200
you said, shouldn't be there 
forever. 

617
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,480
They just, they shouldn't. 
We should use them for a period 

618
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,080
of time and work on the 
underlying issues that are that 

619
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,240
are going on in the body and 
hopefully, hopefully we won't 

620
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,720
ever need them again. 
Right. 

621
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,760
That would be amazing. 
Exactly. 

622
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:22,160
So how do you see bioenergetic 
testing working alongside more 

623
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,040
traditional like blood tests and
things that doctors and 

624
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,480
veterinarians would do? 
I think it's a beautiful 

625
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,520
compliment. 
It's because, I mean, we would 

626
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,360
never say we're a silver bullet.
And so for vets and doctors and 

627
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,760
things like that, where they 
welcome the reports and they 

628
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,240
welcome to see what a client's 
on, that's always a beautiful 

629
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,560
thing. 
I don't know if it's always 

630
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,200
widely accepted, but from our 
view, to be able to take both 

631
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,920
that Western approach and the 
Eastern approach and marry them 

632
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,200
together, those people and 
animals do phenomenal. 

633
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,960
Yeah. 
And though the one thing that we

634
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,040
always need is when someone 
registers online, there's a 

635
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,000
required health form. 
And in that health form, we ask 

636
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,520
for an understanding of those 
common complaints, any 

637
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,560
medication, any pregnancies, 
nursing, all of those. 

638
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,200
Because there's certain 
formulas, there's certain herbs 

639
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,400
and things like that that we 
wouldn't want someone to take if

640
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,920
they're on a certain medication 
or breastfeeding. 

641
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,600
So that's always a critical 
thing we need to know before we 

642
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,320
start testing just so there's no
interactions. 

643
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:33,160
Yeah, absolutely. 
And so the testing itself, is it

644
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,160
like constantly, you're just 
constantly improving. 

645
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,480
How does that work? 
Yeah, I mean, I it's very rare 

646
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,800
to see someone that's perfectly 
balanced. 

647
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,360
There's there's there's actually
quite a few animals that do look

648
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,000
pretty good on their first scan.
It seems to be the most common 

649
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,000
areas on the full scan that we 
see stress on on pets is 

650
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,840
digestive and immune. 
Those are the two most common. 

651
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,720
And lymph, lymph is pretty 
common as common stress as well.

652
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:08,280
But there's one woman I remember
it was her first scan and she 

653
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,720
was in her 70s and she's like, I
have nothing wrong. 

654
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,080
I am just curious to know how 
I'm doing. 

655
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,880
And we tested her and it was one
of the best tests I'd ever seen.

656
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,400
And I personally wanted to tap 
her into her consultation 

657
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,680
because I just want to be like, 
well, what are you doing and why

658
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,680
are you posted? 
And she's like, well, I was 

659
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,920
curious. 
I'm always just wanting to be 

660
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:34,160
the healthiest version of me. 
And that her skin was a rarity. 

661
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,120
Most people, most animals have 
quite a deep level of stress 

662
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,400
across the board. 
And it takes a while to get to a

663
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,120
point where they're perfectly 
balanced. 

664
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,920
And depending on someone's 
environment that they're living 

665
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,440
in, the depth of the stress in 
their body, it can take a while 

666
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,080
to really get perfectly 
balanced. 

667
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,960
And I would say it's not common 
that we ever see anyone 

668
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,840
perfectly balanced because 
there's ebbs and flows, you 

669
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,480
know, from one day to the next. 
For myself, well, if I go and. 

670
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,680
Run into someone, you know, at 
the grocery store and they have 

671
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,840
a bacteria that I get, or if I 
workout really, really hard and 

672
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,440
really stress my body harder 
than I wanted to. 

673
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,560
You know, there's all, it's just
constant factors that could be 

674
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,000
stressing us, but we see general
trends. 

675
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,080
So like for example, oftentimes 
a first scan is what it is and 

676
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,880
then when they start taking 
their regimen and if they're 

677
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,560
they've never detoxed before and
we've started to move pathways 

678
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,440
and start to create some die off
from organisms or move heavy 

679
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,680
metals and things like that, 
that can actually create stress 

680
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,040
as it moves out through the 
body. 

681
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,760
So then that scan oftentimes 
might be worse than their first 

682
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,600
one. 
Yeah, creating stress during 

683
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,600
that detoxing process. 
So from our perspective, it's 

684
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,280
always like, OK, perfect. 
Well, this is exactly what we 

685
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,600
expected. 
And then often times by that 

686
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,800
3rd, 4th scan, they've just made
leaps and bounds because they 

687
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,800
got that couple of layers of 
gunk out and they're doing 

688
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,760
stuff. 
Better. 

689
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:08,080
Yeah. 
Well and that something that you

690
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,400
brought up that is very 
interesting to me. 

691
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,440
So like, is there any sort of 
coaching as far as like, OK, you

692
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:21,560
just took your dog out for a 
hike all day long for 10 hours 

693
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:27,000
and now they're exhausted and 
you're home and you're like the 

694
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,240
next morning going to swab them 
and send this in. 

695
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:32,880
Like that's probably not the 
best time to do it or. 

696
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,240
I mean, it's when it comes to 
testing like it's, it's sort of 

697
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:40,680
that that range, like we look at
it kind of like about a week, 

698
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,760
anything in roughly a week we're
going to pick up. 

699
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,480
And so if that intense fatigue 
lasts longer than a week, then 

700
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,240
maybe wait till after that. 
But then at the same time, if 

701
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:56,120
they're that exhausted after a 
hike for a week, we should 

702
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,920
probably test on them to find 
out why. 

703
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Gotcha. 

704
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,400
OK. 
So I think, you know, again, 

705
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,520
going back to this working 
really well alongside the blood 

706
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,320
testing especially. 
I mean, there are certain I feel

707
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,160
like we should, especially when 
I'm thinking about my pets like 

708
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,040
I'm getting their blood work 
done annually. 

709
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,040
Anyway. 
This isn't like me sitting here 

710
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,720
going like like, you know, we 
need to be biohacking our pets. 

711
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,040
Like I don't know, there's, 
there's a whole lot that we 

712
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,680
could talk about around 
biohacking in general. 

713
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,320
But like this is something that 
we should be doing anyway, these

714
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,080
blood tests for ourselves and 
for our pets and just kind of 

715
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,560
taking in all of the information
possible. 

716
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,680
But I definitely see, you know, 
the bioenergetic testing that 

717
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,320
I've been doing with with 
animals. 

718
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,240
Again, it may not be something 
that a veterinarian is like, 

719
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,280
yeah, this is great. 
In fact, they're probably 

720
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,200
generally like, why are you 
wasting your money? 

721
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,240
But at the same time, they're 
not able a veterinarian 

722
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,840
specifically, generally 
speaking, they're not able to 

723
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,640
put in the time and the energy 
and the effort into figuring all

724
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,960
these things out for pet 
parents, for the pets that 

725
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,480
they're seeing. 
And you wind up with, you know, 

726
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,320
one or multiple prescriptions 
just trying to manage symptoms. 

727
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,240
So like if you were really 
wanting to go down the route of 

728
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,800
root cause and, and figuring 
things out like this is this to 

729
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:28,640
me is one of the best ways to do
it because we're, like you said 

730
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,320
at the very beginning, we're 
looking at the whole of the 

731
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,680
being and how all of the energy 
in every part of the animal is 

732
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,360
working together or working 
together. 

733
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,680
So I find it to be like one of 
the best ways to really start 

734
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,120
with root cause issues and 
animals and human. 

735
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,640
I've, I've never used it for 
human, but I mean, I think I 

736
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,840
don't, I don't work with humans,
at least not right now. 

737
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,920
But it's yeah, I just, I can see
how incredibly beneficial it can

738
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,200
be to get you down the right 
path. 

739
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,840
Whether you want to believe, 
whether you want to say it's woo

740
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,400
woo or whatever, it doesn't. 
It doesn't matter as long as 

741
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,000
like at the end of the day, 
you're actually working towards 

742
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,440
health. 
And if this is a tool to get you

743
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,040
there, I don't know, that's just
mine. 

744
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,200
It makes sense. 
It makes so much sense. 

745
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,680
And, you know, it's like one of 
those things where I remember 

746
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,680
way back in the day when I first
started testing and I was 

747
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,920
working more one-on-one with 
people, it was that a lot of 

748
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,320
people were just like, well, I 
don't fully understand what 

749
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,600
you're doing this. 
You are the only person that has

750
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,120
been able to help me in 1020 
years. 

751
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,800
So I don't care what it is. 
I just know that this is the 

752
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000
first time ever that I'm 
actually getting relief and 

753
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,680
starting to feel better. 
And so it's like you hear 

754
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,040
something like that that's so 
profound and blood work is so 

755
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,640
incredible. 
It's like such a foundational 

756
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,560
thing we all need to do to know 
like where we're at, where 

757
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,080
bioenergetics. 
The great thing when doing both 

758
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,880
is that bioenergetics will pick 
up on the nuances long before 

759
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,280
blood work will. 
So, and sometimes in that 

760
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,560
bioenergetic realm, like look at
my situation, I was tested for 

761
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,920
Lyme disease for four years and 
it never came back positive in 

762
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:25,040
traditional testing. 
And with bio resonance, it 

763
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,840
picked it up because it was just
in a different realm that 

764
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,720
Borrelia was so deep. 
It wasn't in my blood, it was it

765
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:36,320
was heavily impacting me. 
And when it comes to looking at 

766
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,720
different stress levels and 
looking at nutritional patterns 

767
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:41,760
and things like that, 
bioenergetic testing is so 

768
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,960
sensitive. 
We want to know even if your 

769
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,240
thyroid or your vitamin D or any
of the markers, the thousands of

770
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:52,120
markers that we look for, we 
want to know even they're, 

771
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,160
they're slightly outside the 
normal range because, because 

772
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,400
that gives you the power to 
change that. 

773
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,160
Now before maybe five years from
now when you're going and having

774
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,160
your blood tests draw your blood
test and you find out that you 

775
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,040
are in a realm where it's a 
diagnosable XY or Z, whatever it

776
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,680
might be. 
And so that's the beauty of the 

777
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,600
sensitivity of bioenergetic 
testing. 

778
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,000
Yeah, well, and that makes me 
think of two things. 

779
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,680
One on the human side, I 
recently read a book called Good

780
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:29,280
energy by Doctor Casey means 
your brother is Callie. 

781
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,440
I always want to say I'm like, 
is it Casey or Callie? 

782
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,080
Anyway, Doctor Casey means and 
so the book is good energy and 

783
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,040
one of the things it was just 
like this recurring theme 

784
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,920
throughout the whole book is 
that these are what doctors 

785
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,560
consider normal on this lab 
result. 

786
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,440
Sorry, that's actually not where
you want to be. 

787
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,800
Like this is the range where you
would actually want to be. 

788
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,960
And so if you don't know that 
and you're just going by doctor 

789
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,520
saying you're normal, common, it
doesn't mean it's normal. 

790
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,080
And I feel like they should be 
saying that you're in a common 

791
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,440
range instead of a normal rate. 
Right. 

792
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:07,760
Yes. 
So I think a lot of people are 

793
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,640
really misled by quote UN quote,
normal blood results. 

794
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,320
So that was like a huge theme of
that book was like these are the

795
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,840
actual ranges that you want to 
be looking for. 

796
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,960
So if you are a human on your 
own health journey and you are 

797
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,880
really, really struggling with 
doctors continually telling you 

798
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,760
everything is normal, that might
be a really good book for you. 

799
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,720
I make no money on that. 
I'm just just a messenger. 

800
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,320
But with animals I know like the
liver and the kid like kidneys, 

801
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,440
when we are looking at their 
blood work, by the time the 

802
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:47,480
results show too high in the no 
longer normal range, like the 

803
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,080
kidney function is like 6070% 
gone. 

804
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,920
Right. 
So that's another reason why I'm

805
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,520
just like, yeah, this makes so 
much sense. 

806
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,240
Just because the blood work is 
quote UN quote good doesn't mean

807
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:02,160
that there's nothing wrong. 
Right, right. 

808
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,800
And that's as like a pet owner, 
if something doesn't seem right,

809
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,680
you want to get them tested and 
take a deeper dive to understand

810
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,360
that why? 
Or even if there's not an issue,

811
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,560
whether it's a blood test or a 
bioenergetic test or some kind 

812
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:23,080
of analysis to see proactively 
where is my pet right now? 

813
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,840
And are they starting to fall 
within a range where I need to 

814
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,400
give them some support so they 
don't get to a point where we're

815
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,880
having to worry about kidney 
disease? 

816
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,520
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

817
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,040
You know, the cool thing is back
in the day when I first started 

818
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,160
this business, people would 
often say you're my last ditch 

819
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,800
after effort. 
And it was just like, that's 

820
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,200
that's a powerful thing for 
someone to tell you because 

821
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,960
there's a lot of weight that 
comes with that. 

822
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,200
Yeah. 
And yet now were, I mean I 

823
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,160
started this business in 2012, 
it's 2025 and people are saying 

824
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,560
I like you're my first stop. 
That's amazing. 

825
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,000
First up versus my last ditch 
effort and that's it's just so 

826
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:08,240
wild to hear how bioenergetic 
testing has become so accepted 

827
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,640
in such a short time frame. 
But at the same time, when 

828
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,600
people have histories like I do,
where you go to the doctor 

829
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,800
looking for answers, looking for
help, looking for hope, and they

830
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,360
fall short and giving that to 
you time and time and time 

831
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,120
again, people are forced to do 
things that might seem woo woo 

832
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,120
to them, that might seem out of 
the norm. 

833
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,880
But when those things give you 
the results you've been praying 

834
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,200
and hoping and crying about 
getting, like, that's all the 

835
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,280
difference in the world. 
Yeah. 

836
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,000
Yeah. 
Well, I think that's probably a 

837
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,280
good place to. 
And Samantha, I appreciate you 

838
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,320
so much for being here today, 
for talking about this, for 

839
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,680
helping to educate on 
bioenergetic testing. 

840
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:53,000
And I'm just really excited to, 
to continue recommending this to

841
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,960
help helping people and their 
pets figure out the root cause 

842
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,440
of what's going on with them. 
Because I think like as a 

843
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,960
society, especially, especially 
women, we are just so sick and 

844
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,360
tired of being told there's 
nothing wrong with us. 

845
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,880
And goodness gracious, like I 
feel like I could just rant on 

846
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,240
that forever, forever and ever. 
So tired of it. 

847
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:17,320
So thank you so much for what 
you do, guys. 

848
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,640
Check all of the links in the 
show notes. 

849
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,360
If you have any questions, 
follow CBH Energetics, Pet 

850
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,040
Medela on socials. 
If you have any questions, feel 

851
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,560
free to reach out to me as well.
I'm happy to help answer those, 

852
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,960
and if you have anything else 
you want to say, you're welcome 

853
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,400
to. 
Thank you so much for having me 

854
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,120
on, I appreciate it so much. 
This has been a really fun 

855
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,880
conversation. 
You're so fine. 

856
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,640
I appreciate it. 
I appreciate you. 

857
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,360
And guys, give your pet some 
extra love from me and Samantha 

858
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,240
today and I'll be back with you 
next week.

