1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,800 Hey there, it's Jess. If you're new here, I'm a 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,600 certified professional canine nutritionist, raw nutrition 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,720 certified for dogs and cats, a holistic pet health coach, the 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,040 founder of Wild Wellness Pet, and the host of the Pet 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,680 Parenting Reset podcast that you're listening to right now, 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,000 where every pet deserves the absolute best and every pet 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,480 parent is welcome. Learn from the best holistic and 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,880 integrative experts in veterinary medicine and 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,160 nutrition every Tuesday right here on this podcast. 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Or get individualized help with your pet through one-on-one 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,840 consultations and take a deep dive into the root cause with 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,840 the Wild Wellness Bioenergetics at Home testing kit. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,880 It's time to rethink how we raise our pets. 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,560 A reset to naturally healthy dogs and cats. 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,720 If you've been feeling like there has to be something more, 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:58,240 something better, a better way to raise healthier pets, welcome 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,120 to the pet parenting reset. Welcome back, pet parent. 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:08,160 So today is so near and dear to my heart because there is a 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,800 shift happening in the veterinary industry and there is 20 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,480 There's a lot of fight, there's a lot of pushback to what is 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,200 happening, which is completely understandable. 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:23,200 Change is hard, but I'm here for it because I feel like yes, with 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,960 everything there's good and bad, but with this, I feel like 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,480 there's so much more good than there than there is bad. 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:36,320 But people have a really hard time with change and especially 26 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:40,120 in this industry. So I'm biased, obviously, 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,040 because this is what I do for a living as well. 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,880 Like I, I, I do this podcast, which is a labor of love. 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,960 And what I really do is help pet parents with their pets. 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,560 And usually that means their pets are really sick. 31 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:01,240 And I work very like I, I am very clear about I am not 32 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,200 replacing your veterinarian. Your veterinarian is still very 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:10,080 important in in your animal's care like and and I, I talk 34 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,800 about this a lot where you as a pet parent are like the leader. 35 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,600 You are the CEO of your pet's life and you need to hire and 36 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:26,520 fire, you know, appropriately. And there are a lot of 37 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,680 veterinarians out there that are just fighting so hard against 38 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,480 change in their industry. But the reality is, as far as I 39 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,440 can tell and to with all of the veterinarians I have talked to, 40 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,320 which is a of small percentage, change is needed. 41 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,280 Change is needed for so many reasons. 42 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Change is needed first and foremost, because our pets are 43 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,800 suffering the past 50-60 eighty. I don't know how many years are 44 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,760 dogs and cats lives like their lifespans are shorter than they 45 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,960 ever. Their quality of life is worse 46 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,360 than it has ever been. And we just we need we need 47 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,120 change. And on the other hand, when we 48 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,880 look at veterinarians, they have the highest suicide rates. 49 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,800 They don't want their own practices. 50 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,320 They don't want to manage payroll. 51 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,800 They don't want to manage employees. 52 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,480 So everything is being sold out to mega corporations because 53 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,320 they want to be employees. They don't want to have their 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,600 own businesses, and I understand it. 55 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,200 They're overworked, they're overstressed, they're 56 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,720 overwhelmed, and something's got to give. 57 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:36,280 So my guest today is Amanda Smith, and she is the founder of 58 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,880 Canine Gut Solutions, and she actually has spent 20 years in 59 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,320 the veterinary industry and has transitioned into being a 60 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,040 functional canine nutritionist. So welcome, Amanda Smith, how 61 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,720 are you doing today? I am doing lovely. 62 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,760 How about yourself? Good, I'm good. 63 00:03:53,760 --> 00:04:00,120 I'm really hoping that 2026 is like the like the turning point 64 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,280 because there's movement, like there's been movement for a 65 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,960 handful of years to where we're bringing people in who maybe 66 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,160 haven't actually been in the veterinary industry before. 67 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,200 But that doesn't mean that we can't learn things. 68 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,120 That doesn't mean that we can't be helpful and provide services 69 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,560 alongside what our veterinarians are doing, especially in cases 70 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,480 where our veterinarians just don't have the bandwidth to deal 71 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,840 with it. And nutrition is one of those 72 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:33,000 things. So and gut health, Oh my 73 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,120 goodness, Like I'm just going to say this and get this out of the 74 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,600 way because I feel like the majority of what is actually 75 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,080 done in a veterinarian's office is counter to what we should be 76 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,200 doing for gut health, right? And it is so important because I 77 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,160 mean, what 70 depending on where you look, who are you talking 78 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,440 to? 70 roughly percent the immune 79 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,760 system is in the gut. And so there's just so much 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,160 going on. So tell me first of all, like 81 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,520 your history, your trajectory, getting you from, well, you've 82 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,400 done a lot and then going through being a veterinary 83 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,120 technician and now saying, you know what, I actually want to 84 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,840 help patients in a very different way. 85 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:17,120 I want to help these dogs in a very different way. 86 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,200 And so now you're a functional canine nutritionist. 87 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,920 I love, I love that term. Yes, yeah. 88 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:29,560 Gosh, being in the in the world was a blessing because I learned 89 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,920 so much, you know, starting out in the exam room. 90 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,840 I was in surgery and then towards the end of my career I 91 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,400 was doing physical therapy for cats and dogs. 92 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,800 So I think that's where I started to branch out to. 93 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:47,560 There are other ways to help our animals than the traditional 94 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,960 way. And I feel like good old, Oh my 95 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:56,960 gosh, I'm going to look at it. The forever dog is kind of what 96 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,080 opened my eyes. And then checking out different, 97 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,920 oh gosh, the words, documentaries and opening your 98 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,560 eyes and being open to what's out there, what's available, 99 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,880 different avenues to kind of go down. 100 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,600 And I noticed it with my own dog's health journey that what 101 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,760 I'm feeding is not helping. They're still having diarrhea. 102 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:26,560 They're still so my one dog, Izzy, she had pancreatitis and 103 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,480 the veterinarian said, here's a hydrolyzed dog food. 104 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,280 This is what she can have and that's it. 105 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,680 And then I went back a couple weeks later and I said, this 106 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,760 isn't sustainable. Like I can't financially keep up 107 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,160 with this. And she said find a lower fat 108 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,000 dog food. And my mind was blown just 109 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,400 hearing that that's that's it. This is your hope. 110 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,800 This is all you can do for your dog and what you were saying 111 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,200 earlier that you know, hire and fire. 112 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,120 You have to be your own pets advocate. 113 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,040 You have to stand up for your dog and even for yourself and 114 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,520 your own healthcare journey. And that's where it came that I 115 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,120 was like, I'm going to dive into nutrition and how I can help my 116 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,720 dog holistically from the inside out. 117 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,440 It all starts with the bowl. It like there's so much you can 118 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,120 do and that's kind of where everything was born is getting 119 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,680 to the root cause. If we're not getting to the root 120 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,120 cause, then we're going to keep having these issues. 121 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,040 Talking to a client last night, you know that they have itchy 122 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,200 skin. The doctor veterinarian said 123 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,880 give them Benadryl. That's not going to solve your 124 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,680 problems. That's a Band-Aid and I went off 125 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,960 on a tangent, but being a functional canine nutritionist, 126 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,760 I'm helping my canine guardians get to the root cause. 127 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,000 And a holistic health journey is not linear. 128 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:52,120 It's not that quick fix. It's it's the long game, but 129 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,160 it's the long game that's going to get you where you want to go 130 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,520 and have little successes along the way. 131 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,360 So it's it's a lot of fun. Well, yeah, and I actually it 132 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,800 just for whatever reason, like a light bulb went off in my head 133 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,360 cuz I'm like most of the time. Well, number one, people 134 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,400 constantly have to remind me that not everybody knows what I 135 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,600 know. So I like skip over so many 136 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,040 steps. I don't say so many things, but 137 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:29,320 I, it, it like baffles me that people aren't out there looking 138 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:34,960 for better, that people aren't out there saying this, this is a 139 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,000 Band-Aid. Like I actually want to get to 140 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,840 the root cause. But the reality is that there, 141 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,520 there are people out there that are happy with a Band-Aid. 142 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,720 They're like, for the, for the time being at least, they're 143 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,880 happy with the Band-Aid. They're like, OK, give me 144 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,360 whatever drug I need to make my dog stop itching. 145 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,240 And end of day, that's like the end of story. 146 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,040 We're going, we're going to bed and we're actually going to be 147 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,560 able to sleep tonight. And they're happy with that. 148 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,520 But then there are other people who are like, OK, I put my dog 149 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,160 on this medication and a year later, now I've got this tumor 150 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,520 that's popped up, right? And and so it's usually 151 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,880 something that's like really horrible that happens that send 152 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,680 people down this like rabbit hole of, oh, crap, what should I 153 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:17,960 actually be doing? Because all that's happening 154 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,640 when I go to the veterinarian, again, no offense to 155 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,600 veterinarians, because what they do, what they're trained to do, 156 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,520 like is so important. We need them. 157 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:28,400 Please. You know, we need to figure, we 158 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,760 need to figure something out so that they're not burned out, so 159 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,480 that they're not overwhelmed, so that they're not overworked, so 160 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,600 that they don't have the highest suicide rate because we need 161 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,400 these people. But what they, when people 162 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,400 actually realize, like there's so much more I could be doing 163 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,080 for my pet to actually get to the root cause of what's going 164 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,920 on and reverse it. So or, or at least support the 165 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,440 type of boarding that I have to use because I'm not a 166 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,720 veterinarian. Support the body to bring it 167 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,600 back into a a state of homeostasis Is is the goal. 168 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,600 What is it? So OK, it was a pancreatitis 169 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,600 with your dog. I actually know a lot of people 170 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,480 who it's pancreatitis. They're like, I don't understand 171 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,520 why this is the only option. And I also don't understand. 172 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,000 I think not me these, you know, people whose whose dogs wind up 173 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,240 a pancreatitis. I also don't understand why, 174 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,200 like, fat is so villainized. I'm glad when people get to that 175 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,920 point because that's a whole thing in and of itself. 176 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,480 I was actually just, that's so funny. 177 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,760 I was explaining that to a client last night. 178 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,160 She was like, there's, you know, I cooked this Turkey and there's 179 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,880 all this fat. And I'm like, OK, let's talk 180 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,920 about this really quickly. I'm like, OK, let's talk about 181 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,120 the Turkey. And let's talk about the 182 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,760 carbohydrates your dog was eating for a very, very long 183 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,800 time. So what happened on your journey 184 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,720 with your dog and the pancreatitis? 185 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:03,120 She so she started out with just, she was on kibble and 186 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,360 that's where it all started feeding her different foods and 187 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,000 it was just the constant vomiting and then just after 188 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,200 another after another. And then we go to the vet and 189 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,920 then we're put on different medications and then we do an 190 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,240 ultrasound and we're seeing how things are inflamed in there. 191 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,600 And then that's kind of where it came down to what's 192 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,840 pancreatitis. So on that journey it was OK, 193 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:34,960 here's this food, feed her this and then we move over to I don't 194 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,440 feel like that's it. So then I started making her own 195 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,920 food. I use animal diet formulator 196 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,240 because I like to know the ingredients and what's going 197 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,680 into her bowl. And it's even trial and error 198 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,560 for her food bowl and knowing what's sensitive, what's a good, 199 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,800 what's going to support her and not 'cause more inflammation and 200 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,520 having a dog food journal. So journaling what's what's 201 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,720 triggering her? What's not triggering her? 202 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,280 What's, you know, my poor husband, he's like, what are you 203 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,880 doing now? I said, I got to go see her 204 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,600 poop. I got to see what her poop looks 205 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:13,680 like. Is she doing good? 206 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:17,320 Is she not like my kids? They're like, mom, what are you 207 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,440 doing? Paying attention to their poop 208 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,240 and seeing what that's telling you. 209 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,320 And that's again, only part of the puzzle. 210 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:31,760 So making her food and constantly going back and forth. 211 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,680 So we ended up again, just feeding whole fresh foods and 212 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,200 rebuilding her gut microbiome to a healthier state. 213 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,040 So that's kind of kind of her journey. 214 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,640 So what are some of the principles you use? 215 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,160 Obviously every dog is different, every situation is 216 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,640 different. You don't know what you're 217 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,960 starting with all the time, but what are some of like the 218 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,640 foundational principles that you have for rebuilding a gut 219 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,720 microbiome so for. Me, if someone's coming to me 220 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,800 and they're saying my dog has a messed up gut and we need to 221 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:10,600 figure it out, I use tools. So I use test. 222 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,200 Don't guess You have a lovely test. 223 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,920 I use animal Biome. They help get to the gut 224 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,880 microbiome. What's going on inside the dog 225 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,560 and seeing what the imbalances are, you know, like you had 226 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:29,840 said, 70 to 80% depending on where you're reading, the immune 227 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,400 system lives in there. So if that's inflamed, if that's 228 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,160 aggravated, we got to get to that root cause. 229 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,040 So you know, that's part of the puzzle, part of the puzzles, 230 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,760 figuring out what's going on, seeing what their 231 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:46,000 recommendations are. And then also going to a place 232 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,600 of how to become the gut, how do we get that back to a healthy 233 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,160 state and creating a recipe that's going to help them thrive 234 00:13:54,160 --> 00:14:00,160 and not constantly fight against itself and move in the right 235 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,960 direction. So that's kind of where I start 236 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,760 when I'm working with my clients and seeing, helping them be 237 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,480 successful in the sense of what can we, I don't want to say 238 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,680 afford to do, but what's sustainable? 239 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,720 What can we do for your dog? And there's so much that owners 240 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:24,120 can do if they only knew. And that is what really kick 241 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,480 started my business because being in the veterinary world, 242 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,240 there were so many things that they would come into the Animal 243 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,400 Hospital for. And I'm like, if you only knew, 244 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,000 like you could have avoided the situation. 245 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,560 You could have, you know, not gone to the point. 246 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,320 Unfortunately I saw a lot of euthanasia's due to financial 247 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,440 issues. For example spaying and 248 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,600 neutering is controversial. But what typically happens is a 249 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:55,040 female dog is not spayed and she's 10 years old and not 250 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,160 knowing she can get a pyometra. And then they can't afford the 251 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,360 surgery and the dog gets euthanized. 252 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,520 And I, I bring this up because I'm like, there's, you know, if 253 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,400 they only knew, you know, maybe if they only knew that they 254 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,720 could have pet insurance. And then who knows if that would 255 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,680 have covered it anyway. But prepared for the unknown. 256 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,840 And that's even hard too. But there's also so much we can 257 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,720 do so much we also can do with their food, with what's going in 258 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,720 their mouths, what's helping heal them not. 259 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,800 And healing is is a controversial word as well. 260 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,680 What's helping their body thrive is really it. 261 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,320 Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. 262 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,840 And it's exciting. Well, it is because every animal 263 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,000 is different, like there is. And I think that's one of the 264 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,880 one of the thing, the two big things. 265 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,880 There are so many things, but the two big things that I 266 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:57,400 really, really wish we could unwind in pet food marketing is 267 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,920 feeding the same thing for their whole life, right? 268 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:05,760 Not having any sort of rotation. And the idea that this one 269 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:12,800 formulation is going to work for every animal, all breeds, all 270 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,880 species. Like all breeds, not all 271 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:20,200 species, all breeds, all ages. I mean, yes, we have veterinary 272 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,320 diets. I hate, I hate, I hate them so 273 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:28,400 much, but I hate them so much. I mean, they're band aids, but 274 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,360 they're not used as band aids. Like if they were used as band 275 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,640 aids, I don't think I would hate them as much as I hate them. 276 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,640 But I mean, I've done episodes where like I literally taken a 277 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,080 label from the same pet food manufacturer from for the same 278 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:50,600 like type of whatever protein food from the like regular bag 279 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,120 of food that you would buy versus the veterinary 280 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,960 formulation of that food that you would buy. 281 00:16:55,160 --> 00:17:00,120 And like compared the ingredient labels and the ingredients in 282 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,680 the veterinary diet are so much worse. 283 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,319 There's so much less meat, which should be the most expensive 284 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:10,400 ingredient, and yet the veterinary diet is twice, three 285 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,680 times the price, right? Like it's, it drives me 286 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,680 absolutely insane. I hate it so much. 287 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,400 Yeah. But those are the things like 288 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,800 feeding the same thing for your whole dog's life, like their 289 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,440 their whole life that that just blows my mind and then wondering 290 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,800 why when you feed them anything new, they have digestive upset 291 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:38,040 and then that that one formulation is good for 292 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,200 everyone. Like what are your thoughts? 293 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,840 I've given my thoughts, obviously. 294 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,720 What are your? Thoughts. 295 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,720 No. And that's what we were all led 296 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,040 to believe. We were all led to believe that 297 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,840 this is what you're supposed to do. 298 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,960 You know, pick a food and stick with it and that's it. 299 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:59,040 And the, the idea of bringing in a new food and rotating was 300 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,560 scary and intimidating and like, why would I do that? 301 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,520 My dog likes this food. They're doing good on this food 302 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,600 and what I've also come to know that when you're feeding your 303 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,960 dog whole fresh foods, how much they adapt quickly and talking 304 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,800 about like a healthy dog, you know, not a dog that has issues 305 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,960 switching them to whole fresh foods can be a little bit more 306 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,800 time consuming and more aware of how to do that. 307 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,680 A healthy dog switching to whole fresh foods will blossom like, 308 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,960 you know, that you're, you're scared into this theory of don't 309 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,760 switch up their foods. They're going to get diarrhea. 310 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,960 They're going to get, you know, pancreatitis. 311 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,240 But that's not the case typically with a healthy dog you 312 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,640 give them and you know, talking about poop, apparently poop is a 313 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,640 big thing for me, how small their poops are when they eat 314 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:54,680 fresh food and their body is absorbing all the nutrients from 315 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,960 this fresh food. But then when you have a Kimble 316 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,840 fed dog, how stinky and massive a Chihuahua could poop 317 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,760 sometimes. So yeah, it's it's unfortunate 318 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,440 that that's what we were all led to believe that you pick a food 319 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:16,040 and you stick with one. And now, now that social media 320 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:22,080 has been able to open people's eyes to what's possible, what is 321 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,240 OK? Because if you go to the same 322 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,240 veterinarian for, you know, your whole life, oh, well, my mom 323 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,040 went to this veterinarian, so I'm going to go to this 324 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,720 veterinarian, then your viewpoint is never going to 325 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,560 change. But now what? 326 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,120 Again, with the social media platforms, you get to hear 327 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:40,160 different viewpoints. You get to know, OK, this is 328 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,160 possible. This is good for my dog. 329 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,800 And that's when the gates start to open. 330 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:51,240 And the other thing too, is to be mindful of who you're getting 331 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,960 your information from. Not every Joe Schmo out there 332 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,120 knows 100% what they're talking about. 333 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:59,760 So if something sounds interesting to you, take it and 334 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,880 look it up. Do your own homework on it. 335 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,360 Don't take their, you know, their information, 100% value 336 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,560 because that could just be their story. 337 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,360 That could just be their patients story, not necessarily 338 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:13,560 your dogs. So. 339 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,000 I, you know, having this podcast and being able to get to more 340 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,000 people, more people want to learn about their dogs. 341 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,520 And you know, thank you for giving me this opportunity to be 342 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,840 here because more people want to learn. 343 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,720 They want to do better for their dogs and I'm here for it. 344 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,520 Yeah, well, there are so many things to unpack in there. 345 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,680 Like 1. I like, it is so hard for me to 346 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,640 like even wrap my head around the idea of being like, I can 347 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,240 call, I can easily call myself a content creator because that's 348 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,760 what I do. I feel confident and that's what 349 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,560 I do. But anytime somebody calls me 350 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,600 like an influencer, I have a hard time with that. 351 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:57,680 Not because I don't think I am. I think just having a presence 352 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,760 on social media. You are an influencer whether 353 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,960 you want to be or not. But like, I think we've have 354 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,840 such a negative connotation to that word anymore. 355 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:12,200 And some of us are actually trying to, to, to like really be 356 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,640 good influencers and like almost D influence. 357 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,200 Like I don't want you buying 100 different supplements. 358 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,400 I don't want you creating this like supplement graveyard 359 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,360 because I've been there and I like even even at the point 360 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:27,920 where I realized I had a supplement graveyard, I still 361 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,800 had a hard time partying with it because I'm like, I spent so 362 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,720 much money on this stuff, right? I have a hard time partying with 363 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,360 it. But like, it is what it is. 364 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:43,320 We, I think we have to like embrace the fact that if you 365 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,360 have a social media presence, just by default, you're going to 366 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:48,800 be an influencer in one way shape or form. 367 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:58,080 But I think I don't think like that burden should fall 100% on 368 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,920 us because I feel like as a consumer, you have a 369 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,560 responsibility to understand that while yes, this may be an 370 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,480 incredible product that is formulated amazing with the best 371 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,320 quality ingredients and blah, blah, blah. 372 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,680 And all the things that still may not be the right product for 373 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,360 your individual animal. And I don't think that like, and 374 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:23,560 I think that's why so many influencers have like this 375 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,760 negative connotation. They're like, no, this actually 376 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,840 really is a great product. I just don't, I can't tell you 377 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,520 like I'm putting out a video for the population, you know, 378 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,320 millions of people potentially to see, I don't know what's 379 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,200 going on with your individual animal. 380 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,800 I can tell you that like, yeah, I do consultations if you want 381 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,360 to talk about your individual animal. 382 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:51,360 But I do think there's like this responsibility of the consumer 383 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:55,440 that we overlook a lot of times. And I feel like that's one of 384 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,920 the things that I love about doing this podcast so much is 385 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,520 that I feel like I am giving the people that are consuming this 386 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,960 content, the consumers a better understanding of like how to 387 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,640 evaluate these things when they're looking at them. 388 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,160 At least that's my hope. I don't know, it's your 389 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:21,560 intention, the intention, right? But OK, I want to talk about 390 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,120 poop too, because like it was funny when I, when I first 391 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:29,800 started dating my boyfriend, I was like, certain words kept 392 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,320 coming up and he was like, I have never in my life. 393 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,800 Like we talked about. I'm like, you're going to hear 394 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,000 the word poop so much. And then for a little while all 395 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:45,080 we talked about was placentas. And then, and then like right 396 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,480 now his thing is I, I'm just, he's struggling so much with the 397 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,480 fact that our kitten is obsessed with rabbit's feet and little 398 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,840 quail, like dehydrated quail chicks. 399 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,320 And I, I'm like, they're, they're all over the house and 400 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,640 he bats them everywhere. And he literally will like put 401 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,400 them in his mouth and walk around and do like his trills 402 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,880 and he'll like toss them and throw them and go chase them. 403 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,840 And he's like, how is my house full of dead animal park? 404 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,280 I'm like, wow, let me explain to you. 405 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:20,960 I told you this a long time ago. So anyway, back to poop. 406 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,440 I I actually that this is another thing that I have a hard 407 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,760 time with. I don't wanna. 408 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,560 Yeah, I do. I do have a hard time with it 409 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:36,840 because every single one of my clients, they feel like diarrhea 410 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:42,360 should never happen. And I'm like, OK, I get that. 411 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,920 Chronic diarrhea, an extended episode of diarrhea like this is 412 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,440 something that we do want to make sure doesn't happen. 413 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,800 But diarrhea in and of itself like that is a symptom. 414 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,560 It is giving us clues. It is giving us information of 415 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,040 what is going on. And there are times like you 416 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,280 were talking about when we're transitioning foods, if we're 417 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,760 doing a detox, if there are Paris, like there are, there are 418 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,880 instances in which we, for me at least, unless I'm dealing with a 419 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,560 puppy or a senior or really, really sick dog, I'm like, I 420 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,920 actually want to see a little bit of diarrhea because the body 421 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,280 needs to purge, right? And that for some people, I feel 422 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,680 like is really hard. So how do you handle diarrhea? 423 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,640 Yes, Oh my goodness. And it is so interesting that, 424 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,840 you know, their first go to is go to the vet, go to the vet, go 425 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,080 to. The vet and stop it. 426 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,600 I mean, like, listen, we get it, your dog probably pooped all 427 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,520 over your house and you wanted to stop right now. 428 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,520 But yeah, OK, so then you stop it and then you still don't know 429 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,240 why it happened. That's a problem because sure, 430 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,600 it could just be a fluke thing. It happened and then it done, 431 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,120 you know, you're done. You do your antibiotics, that's 432 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:08,320 another story. So diarrhea, I, I was going to 433 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:15,080 say I love, I love A to use marshmallow roots and slippery 434 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,360 Elm in my toolbox. That something you can get over 435 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:23,440 the counter that will help soothe the GI tract. 436 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,120 I personally for my households will do for my dogs. 437 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,240 I will do ground Turkey and pumpkin and sometimes sweet 438 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,080 potato to help the stomach get back to a calm state. 439 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,800 And even before that, it could be be a 24 hour fast to 440 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,560 completely reset the gut and get it back to a happy state. 441 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,640 And throughout all this, you know, letting your dog drink 442 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,840 some water, maybe some bone broth, depending on how well 443 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,520 they're doing and keeping an eye on it. 444 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,560 But a lot of my clients do panic, do lose their marbles, 445 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,160 and that's not necessarily because of the switch in the 446 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,560 transition. It's more so problems they had 447 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:15,280 coming into me and my, you know, my support that Ioffer and 448 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,320 telling them so my one client did use marshmallow root and 449 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,600 she's like, I'm telling everybody about it. 450 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Like it just worked so well and I'm happy, I'm happy and 451 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,120 thankful that, you know, this type of information can get out 452 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,680 to people and they can look up the resources and see what it 453 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,920 can do and the science behind it. 454 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,760 And the, you know, it doesn't always have to be a vet visit. 455 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,960 I feel like I want to stress that it doesn't always have to 456 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,680 be. You can evaluate, see what's 457 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,440 going on. If your dog is lethargic, if 458 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,840 your dog is not eating, if your dog is not itself. 459 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,240 Yes, please, please, please, please a healthy dog. 460 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,520 That's what we're talking about. Healthy dogs got the poops still 461 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,760 wagging its tail, still being a little nut job. 462 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:04,840 Then 24 hour fast, see how it goes, see what's going on. 463 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,720 Give them a little bit of food and small frequent meals could 464 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,160 be helpful. And you know, we keep saying 465 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,280 throughout this podcast, every dog is an individual. 466 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:19,000 Every dog is its own dog. So treat it as such. 467 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:23,520 You know, if you see online that it says do XY and Z, that works 468 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,440 for majority doesn't necessarily it's going to mean it's going to 469 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,280 fix your dog. So being mindful to that too. 470 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,520 You know, there's so many rabbit holes and avenues you can go 471 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,640 down. Speaking of rabbit holes, I'm 472 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,560 going to take a little tangent here because I know my listeners 473 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,480 love when I do this. Yes, like we've been talking 474 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,800 about how most everything we read, most everything we see, 475 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:51,760 most like data in general is based on averages. 476 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,280 And I was just watching something the other day that I'm 477 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,080 so interested. Like my primary degree is in 478 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,360 psychology. I'm so interested in psychology. 479 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,080 And so anytime like something comes up in my feed, I'm like, I 480 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,680 need to do it. Like I will get very interested 481 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,120 in like start doing a deep dive on these different things that 482 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,600 that I hear people talk about, especially if it's like, you 483 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,480 know, a doctor on a podcast or something. 484 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,880 And whoever it was, I don't remember who it was, was talking 485 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:31,360 about how so much of what we're seeing now, because it's very it 486 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:37,440 became very popular with like the whole like sexual harassment 487 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,080 me too thing where all of a sudden in the past, like 5-6, I 488 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,560 don't know how many years we have to say not all right. 489 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,920 Like before, I feel like it was kind of just implied that 490 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,880 anytime we are giving information, it's a 491 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,360 generalization. And now people don't understand 492 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,880 generalizations. And it actually is a form of 493 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:10,240 cognitive dissonance where people get hung up on their one 494 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,440 individual experience. And I, I heard somebody say this 495 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,080 the other day with, it might have actually been something 496 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,360 that BC wrote BC henshin where, you know, somebody will say, 497 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,360 well, when I was a kid, my dog lived on pedigree and they lived 498 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,480 20 years and they were fine. So it's fine for my dog now. 499 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,840 And so they have this like 1 instance, which by the way was 500 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,400 how long ago and how much has changed since then, right? 501 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,680 Like how much more toxic is our world? 502 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,360 How much more, how much more worse really, are the 503 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,920 ingredients in that pet food? But anyway, like they get so 504 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,920 hung up on the one that they refuse to recognize the many. 505 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:58,080 And I like that. That really hit a chord with me 506 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:03,040 because I feel stuck in this box where anytime I make any sort of 507 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,440 content, I have to be really careful to say not all because 508 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,480 people are like so quick to be like, not because 20 years ago 509 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,360 when I was a teenager, I remember my cousin's best 510 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,600 friend's mom did XY is right. I don't. 511 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,160 And it actually is a form of cognitive, cognitive dissonance 512 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,680 that that so many people have today. 513 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,000 So that's my little Ted talk and tangent. 514 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,600 So thank you very much for listening. 515 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:37,000 But I'm I'm just stuck on on the fact that we now have to say not 516 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,280 all to everything we're talking about. 517 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,400 I think I don't know if it's you or me that is OK. 518 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,360 She's having some technical issues. 519 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,160 Yeah, yeah, I did. See it. 520 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,520 I figured it out. Yeah, I'm glad. 521 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,760 Thank you. Yeah, of course. 522 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,120 OK. Thank you. 523 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,240 I think we're good. OK, good. 524 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,600 My goodness. OK, I hope. 525 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,280 OK. Hopefully we're good. 526 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,000 Hopefully we didn't lose all that. 527 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,840 We'll see. OK, So I don't know how much of 528 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,760 my Ted talk you heard, but basically it's it's it's a form 529 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,240 of cognitive dissonance that people can't see past the one to 530 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:29,400 acknowledge the many, basically. And so for me, I feel like that 531 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:35,000 makes it difficult to make to make content and to and because 532 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,000 all you get are trolls and people talking about how you 533 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,360 know this one time at band camp, right? 534 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,640 Like it's just like they can't, right? 535 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,600 Like they can't. And so anytime I'm making 536 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:57,040 content, I always feel the need to be like not all because feel 537 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,480 like we have to say that anymore and it's true, but also like I 538 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,200 think it just it keeps a lot of content maybe stunted. 539 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,840 A little bit not, I don't want to say not authentic. 540 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:17,320 It's it does keep away some of the real stuff because you do 541 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,600 have to think of the backlash. You do have to think about, you 542 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:28,120 know, you know, how well do I feel to take to take on others 543 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,400 opinions absorb how people are going to perceive this. 544 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,600 So I say that in a kind of like, because it also takes a certain 545 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,040 type of person to not care to know that it's them. 546 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:48,280 It's not you, it's them fighting their own battles and pretty 547 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,440 much pushing off their own feelings onto you. 548 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,840 And it has nothing to do with you, which was something 549 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,440 honestly hard for me to understand being in business. 550 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,440 It's, you know, someone being upset for something. 551 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,640 And of course, I have no problem taking the faults if I did 552 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,120 something wrong because that's human being. 553 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,800 But knowing if someone's mad at me, if someone's upset with me, 554 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,239 what's going on with them? What are they going through that 555 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,199 they are backlashing or getting upset. 556 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,960 You know, if someone says I don't agree with your post, 557 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,679 Jessica, well, what happened to their dog? 558 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,840 Because they said pedigree, you know, I don't agree. 559 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,480 I don't do this, I don't do that. 560 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,800 How dare you? It's because it triggered 561 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,639 something in themselves. But it does. 562 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,520 You have to think I made a post about again about a pyometra and 563 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,360 on TikTok and people came for me. 564 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,960 This woman's telling you not to spay your dog and like just 565 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,600 going at me and I posted another video. 566 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,080 I said you guys heard what you wanted to hear. 567 00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,000 That's exactly what you're projecting on to me because 568 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,200 that's not what I said. That's not how I said it. 569 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,920 But there's only, you know, how much can you play that game of, 570 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,240 you know, that's not what I said. 571 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:10,600 This is how I said it. It is what it is, and if you 572 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,440 have all the right intentions of helping people, then what does 573 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,840 it really matter? Yeah, it does take some thick 574 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,680 skin. I know some friends, colleagues 575 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,200 who regularly are like, they just want to give up, you know? 576 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,320 They're like, I don't know if I can handle this. 577 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,920 And I'm like, I've been there. Definitely been there. 578 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,840 I've had literal death threats against me and my animals. 579 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,120 I've been there. Like it's hard. 580 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,840 You just have to either say this isn't for me. 581 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,160 I don't, I don't want this kind of negativity in my life and I'm 582 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,760 just going to leave it behind or say, you know, I believe in what 583 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,760 I'm doing and I'm going to keep telling my truth. 584 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,080 Whatever. My truth may be, and again, that 585 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:04,440 comes back to, I think the responsibility that the consumer 586 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,360 has that they often don't want to believe they have, but they 587 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:17,640 do in in assessing the content that they're consuming and, you 588 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,920 know, figuring out who aligns with them and who doesn't. 589 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:27,160 And I will be the first one to admit like I am so easily 590 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,560 influenced on a TikTok shop item. 591 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,760 I am an easy sell if it is on TikTok shop. 592 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,760 I don't know what it is, but I understand that every once in a 593 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,920 while I get a dud of an item and I take on that responsibility 594 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,320 and then I go I may not trust. That influencer, Yes, Life 595 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,360 lessons. Life lessons. 596 00:36:54,160 --> 00:37:00,400 Right, I know like this is, you know, but anyway, it it, it just 597 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,360 is what it is. That's the world we live in. 598 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,960 I think we have to be smarter about it. 599 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,240 But OK, so you do have a community of people you are 600 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,240 helping educate. How do like talk to me about 601 00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,200 your business, what you do, how you reach people, how people can 602 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,200 find you, all the things. Yeah, yeah. 603 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:24,360 So Canine gunsolutions.com is my website and I currently offer 604 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,960 free consultations. So the free consultation is to 605 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,240 let's have a conversation. What's going on with your dog? 606 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:36,200 How can I help you? And well, that results in, you 607 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,600 know, us working together or will it result in here are some 608 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,040 free resources because I had someone say to me, wow, that's 609 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,040 you know, how, how do you do free consultations? 610 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,080 And I'm like, well, I have a schedule. 611 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,040 So you, if you see on my schedule that it aligns with 612 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,080 you, then join my schedule. If it doesn't, then it doesn't. 613 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,320 But I want to help as many people as possible. 614 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,320 And again, if it's just the free consult and I'm telling you, 615 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,640 hey, I can't afford to do, you know, fresh food right now. 616 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,560 Can I do half kibble and half fresh food? 617 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,960 What does that look like, Amanda? 618 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,840 OK, let's add some sardines, blueberries and eggs. 619 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,960 You know, there's so much they can do to help them, just to 620 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,880 help them go down the right path to help their dog because that's 621 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,280 all we're here for. We're here to do the best that 622 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,480 we can. And if I can help them just do a 623 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,320 little bit good, then their dogs going to do so much better. 624 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,040 I have an online community as well. 625 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,920 It's a private community, a paid community where you're being 626 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,800 guided and supported by a functional canine nutritionist. 627 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,960 I have experts join my community each month to go over different 628 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,680 topics on ways to help your dog live longer. 629 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:59,240 And it kind of selfishly made for myself because I love to 630 00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:01,880 learn new ways to help my dog live longer. 631 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,240 What's the latest trick? What's the latest thing? 632 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,920 Everyday I'm learning something new. 633 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,720 And I think that's something that parents can think about 634 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:16,040 too, is each day how can I do better? 635 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,640 And I don't want to make that into an overwhelming thing, but 636 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:26,760 just to pick one thing and to learn about it and to dive into 637 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,000 it. So inside the community, there's 638 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,440 that, there's the support, there's discounts on my services 639 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,320 as well. I'm mostly on Instagram where I 640 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:44,000 share a lot of my content and you'll see more of Dobby and 641 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,320 Stella's behind me sleeping. We got Kipper in the cage and 642 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,320 Scarlet Joe, so you'll see all of us there. 643 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,720 But if we decide to work together, then that is a custom, 644 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:02,360 complete and balanced recipe where I use Animal Diet 645 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,960 Formulator where I'm formulating those recipes. 646 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,280 We work together over a month's time to help you make that 647 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,600 transition to whole fresh foods. Trial and error, Amanda, this 648 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,800 doesn't work for Fluffy. This works better. 649 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,960 Let's try this. And giving us that month is to 650 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,640 help us ensure your success to ensure you're going to be 651 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,600 consistent with your dog's health journey. 652 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,520 And that's kind of where my membership came to life because 653 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,680 my clients would say, well, what do I do from here? 654 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,320 You know, we worked together for a month. 655 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,800 I want continued support. Then my community was born. 656 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:48,440 And then this year, I am now starting three recipes that are 657 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,600 complete, complete and balanced over the recipes. 658 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,560 So it's not one complete and balanced recipe and one it's 659 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,080 balanced over time. It's really to help the dynamic 660 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,200 of people, people that want to throw recipes together on the 661 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,040 fly instead of bulk preparing the recipes. 662 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:15,040 And I see value in each of these and I feel if people know how to 663 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,680 do it properly, they will do it well. 664 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,880 And it's giving them that guidance to do that and not feel 665 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,880 overwhelmed and exhausted and thrown to Google, you know, your 666 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,520 nights away. So that's what we do here. 667 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:35,480 Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, I love all of that. 668 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,160 I do a lot of that myself. And I have a lot of people ask 669 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,240 me why I still do free discovery calls. 670 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,840 And I'm like I 1, I don't really want somebody buying my services 671 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,520 if I haven't talked to them. I don't like, I want to know 672 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,680 what's going on with your pet. And I want to make sure that I'm 673 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,880 the right person to help you because maybe I'm, maybe I'm not 674 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,280 the right person to help you. And I'm going to be the first to 675 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,360 tell you that if you have a dog with an aggressive cancer, I may 676 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,640 not be the right person to help you. 677 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,760 Like I probably could help you, but I might know somebody better 678 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,000 that could help you. And I, I refer a lot of people a 679 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,760 lot of times because I'm like, you know, I, I, I have things 680 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,760 that I do so often that I know I do them really well. 681 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,840 And then I have things that I'm like, I could help you, but I 682 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,720 really feel like you're going to get a better benefit if you go 683 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,000 talk to this person. And, and I think it's, I think 684 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,800 it's good for the client too, to like get a sense of who you are 685 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,240 and what the process is going to be like and what they're 686 00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:40,520 actually getting for their money. 687 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,560 Because I know I, it seems like I charge a lot, but what they 688 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,480 get over six months or 12 month period of time, like it really 689 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,080 is not, it is less than what you would be paying to see a 690 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,680 veterinarian for the same amount of time. 691 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,800 But like an it's, it's an upfront cost that people are 692 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,800 like, Oh my gosh, that's, that's a lot of money. 693 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,560 I'm like, yeah, but you're getting like, you're getting me 694 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,560 for a year. Like, you know what I mean? 695 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,200 Like you're getting me for a year. 696 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,160 Let's, let's, let's be realistic. 697 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,920 And so I want to make sure that like people are comfortable and 698 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,160 confident. They are, and I am that we're 699 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,240 going to work together well and that things are going to like 700 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,560 mesh well. But that's also why I like that 701 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,520 you have that community because people can get a better sense of 702 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,000 like who you are and how you work and really get a lot of 703 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,120 pointers if they're not really ready to, to hire somebody 704 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,520 one-on-one. Because I've definitely talked 705 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,840 to people that I'm like, you don't need me and you don't 706 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960 really need anybody. Like you're, you really don't 707 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,480 need anybody like, unless you just want somebody to be your 708 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,600 cheerleader. If you want to pay for somebody 709 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,960 to be your cheerleader, that's great. 710 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,320 You can do that, but you don't need, you don't need anybody. 711 00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:54,480 I've had that happen too, where I'm like you really, I don't 712 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,480 know what, like you just want to spend money. 713 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,640 That's cool. Sure, here for it. 714 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,280 Awesome. Well, so Canine Gut 715 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,080 solutions.com and they can get any and everything that they can 716 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,240 get to your community, they can get to your services. 717 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,320 I'm sure you have like probably a blog and all the. 718 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,360 Things. All the things. 719 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,240 Yep. All the things, all the things. 720 00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:19,200 And so it's monthly that you're doing the you bring somebody in 721 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,880 to to talk to them. That's really cool too. 722 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,280 I like. That this month on January is a 723 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,880 local friends in New Jersey that does she's certified in canine 724 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,400 massage. So she's going to do that. 725 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:37,160 And then each month there's just somebody new. 726 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:42,160 We have Gussy's gut that'll be coming in and then I believe 727 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:46,720 you're doing a you're doing something with wolf with wolf, 728 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,320 yes, they're going to be coming in in the new year in 2026. 729 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,200 So just to get different viewpoints, you know, have 730 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,080 people learn different things that they wouldn't necessarily 731 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,160 hear about, you know, in the day-to-day life. 732 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,120 So that's what I like to bring to the community. 733 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,320 Yeah, I like that. Gussies Gut is one of my 734 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:14,040 favorites to talk to Rob. He is because it's food like, 735 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,520 and that's what I do. I'm like, OK, but so can we can 736 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,640 we talk about what we can do with food before we go anywhere 737 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,840 else? Like, yeah, I have people ask me 738 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,120 all the time, like what supplement? 739 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,400 What supplement, what supplement? 740 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,440 Which to me is just, it's like this carryover from the 741 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,520 pharmaceutical mentality that we've like has been driven into 742 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:40,720 us for the past hundred years or whatever that X is wrong. 743 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,480 So I need Y, right? That's not. 744 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,440 And I'm like, no, no, no, no. Let's talk about the food and 745 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,960 let's talk about what we can supplement with food before we 746 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,680 go. And, and herbs fall into that 747 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,160 for me as well. And Rob is very much like that. 748 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,080 We had a really, really good conversation. 749 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,520 I'm just going off on a tangent again, probably a year and a 750 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:11,560 half ago now about probiotics. And he was like, probiotics are 751 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,520 bullshit. And I'm like, thank God somebody 752 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,800 else is is saying this. And honestly, the only 753 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,760 probiotics I recommend that are not food are the new green Juju 754 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,280 ones. And that's because they are 755 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,800 food. They're just extracted. 756 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,400 And I'm like, I just don't recommend probiotics outside of 757 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,360 that. What about you? 758 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,960 Yeah, no. And so it's just a rabbit hole. 759 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,280 It's a rabbit hole that is just a concept. 760 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,640 You just blew so many people's minds right now because what do 761 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,120 you mean? Like it's a white powder that I 762 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,200 put on my dog's food maybe once or twice a day, and you're 763 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,400 telling me it's food again? It's just knowing what is in 764 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,640 your toolbox. What what you know, you hear 765 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,080 something on the Internet, do your homework, research it and 766 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,480 know where those resources are coming from because there is so 767 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,720 much out there. And I have this conversation 768 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,800 with my friends all the time. I was like, we've been lied to 769 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,160 for so long. And if you don't want to drink 770 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,880 the kool-aid anymore, you know, you need to be open. 771 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,000 You need to be open to new ways to do things to nourish your 772 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,880 body, nourish your dog's body. And the other thing that I 773 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:35,680 learned, you know, recently with my own dog is just because it's 774 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:40,560 a supplement, you still just like food, need to take it slow, 775 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,840 introducing it slow because this is the first time, you know, 776 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,960 they're seeing it, their bodies seeing this new food probiotic 777 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,680 and you don't know how their body is going to react. 778 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:59,160 They've never had such thing. So, and now this just came to my 779 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,320 mind, detoxing. When a dog goes from Kimmel to 780 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,480 fresh food, their body does go through a detox. 781 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,000 And that's scary to some people. You know, the discharge from the 782 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,160 eyes, the access shedding, the diarrhea because the body is 783 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,960 getting rid of it. It's a sign, it's a signal. 784 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:23,360 It's beautiful, it's doing its job and to help your dog get 785 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,880 through that to see them on the other side is amazing. 786 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,440 And I encourage everybody to be curious. 787 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,880 And that was the original name kind of catch line for my 788 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,960 business was Curious Minds for the healthy pet because it's you 789 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,360 have to be curious, you have to wonder, you have to be open so. 790 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:53,160 Yeah, yeah. When that yeast die off, stops a 791 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,880 lot of people too. They're like, no, this can't be 792 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,680 right. Like you're handy. 793 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,480 Oh yeah. It's going to get worse before 794 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,160 it gets better, I promise you. And. 795 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,560 Then that's what stops people too. 796 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,520 And you know, being inside a community and even having us to 797 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,120 guide you to hand hold you. And that's what we want to do. 798 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,760 We want to hand hold you because we want you to to see you get to 799 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,880 the other side and not stop because of that scary, you know 800 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,920 these die off or goopy eyes. Awesome. 801 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,720 Well, Amanda, thank you so much for being here again. 802 00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:32,480 People can find you at caninegutsolutions.com and then 803 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,200 I will that also link to your Instagram or is it just Canine 804 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,480 Gut Solutions? Canine Gut Solutions is my 805 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,480 Instagram handle, but you'll be able to find everything on my 806 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,760 website. Awesome. 807 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,800 And it will also be LinkedIn, the show notes, if you click on 808 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:54,960 the, what is it called, guest profile through the show notes, 809 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,640 that will all be there as well. So you can just click, click, 810 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,520 click, click, click and go straight to it. 811 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,320 So yeah, thank you so much for being here, Amanda, I love what 812 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,440 you're doing. Thank you so much for coming on 813 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,280 to talk to people about it because I know like I said at 814 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,720 the very beginning of all of this, it's new for a lot of 815 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:16,560 people to pay for services and trust outside of their 816 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:22,000 veterinarian. And again, like in no way 817 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,040 replacing veterinary care, veterinary services, this is 818 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,400 different, but it is an addition. 819 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,720 And I think people, people definitely need to get used to 820 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,560 the fact that it is an addition in addition to to veterinary 821 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,000 services, veterinary care, which is so important. 822 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,320 In fact, if if your pet has not had blood work done, please go 823 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,840 get their blood work done. Love that by the way, make sure 824 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,720 you do that by the. Way I know my boyfriend's cat is 825 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:58,000 like 8 or almost nine years old and I was like, she I 826 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,040 transitioned her to wet food and she's starting to eat some raw 827 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,840 food and she's like ravenous all of a sudden and I'm like, oh 828 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,280 crap, let's go check her thyroid. 829 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,600 And I was like, Hey, we're her, her records. 830 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,400 And he's like, she's never been to the vet. 831 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,960 Like, well, that's I mean I'm, I'm, I'm good with that. 832 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,840 That's probably why she's so healthy. 833 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,440 But but I have no baseline to go off. 834 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,880 To the vet. Yeah, no, no, it's OK. 835 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,440 It's OK. Yeah. 836 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,240 So thank you again, Amanda. Everybody check out Canine Gut 837 00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:40,000 Solutions on Instagram, caninegutsolutions.com and yeah, 838 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,400 I'll see you guys next week. Until then, please give your pet 839 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,600 some extra love from me and from Amanda this week. 840 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,840 Thanks so much for being here, Amanda.