1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,800 Hey there, it's Jess. If you're new here, I'm a 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,600 certified professional canine nutritionist, raw nutrition 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,720 certified for dogs and cats, a holistic pet health coach, the 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,040 founder of Wild Wellness Pet, and the host of the Pet 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,680 Parenting Reset podcast that you're listening to right now, 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,000 where every pet deserves the absolute best and every pet 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,480 parent is welcome. Learn from the best holistic and 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,880 integrative experts in veterinary medicine and 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,160 nutrition every Tuesday right here on this podcast. 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Or get individualized help with your pet through one-on-one 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,840 consultations and take a deep dive into the root cause with 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,840 the Wild Wellness Bioenergetics at Home testing kit. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,880 It's time to rethink how we raise our pets. 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,560 A reset to naturally healthy dogs and cats. 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,720 If you've been feeling like there has to be something more, 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:58,240 something better, a better way to raise healthier pets, welcome 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,960 to the Pet Parenting Reset. Welcome back pet parent. 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Today's episode is actually a Pet Health Junkies episode. 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,400 So I know not everybody who listens to the pet parenting 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,720 Reset also listens to Pet Health Junkies, and that's OK. 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,920 I absolutely love Pet Health Junkies, but it doesn't come out 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,200 nearly as often, obviously, as the Pet parenting reset. 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,640 And so I think it kind of gets sometimes a little forgotten 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,080 about, which I'm not mad about when we have an episode with a 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,680 guest and it turns out to be like, oh, this is really, really 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,000 amazing stuff. I don't want you to miss it. 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,840 And so I am giving you that content today. 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,800 It is an episode with Doctor Marlene Siegel. 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,040 And actually we are going going to be doing a follow up episode 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,960 with her. So I will be posting that on 31 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,480 this channel as well. Doctor Marlene Siegel has been 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,240 on the pet parenting reset before, but this particular 33 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:01,160 episode that we did with her is all about detoxing because we 34 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,680 talk a lot about detoxing, but what does that actually mean and 35 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:10,360 how do we actually do it? And I feel like sometimes that 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,800 gets locked. I don't even like, are we 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,120 talking about this? I don't know. 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,520 I know we talked about detox. Are we talking about how to do 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,920 it? But are we talking about how to 40 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:20,680 do it the right way? But are we talking about what 41 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,560 needs to be in place in the body to be able to detox? 42 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,960 Because if we just try to detox and. 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Our. Detox pathways are not open. 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,320 That can actually cause more problems than where we were at 45 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,280 to begin with. So again, there's there's 46 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,800 there's so many things we talked about in this podcast episode 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,960 with Doctor Marlene Siegel. I don't want to belabor it 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,320 because you're going to hear all about it. 49 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,440 So here you go. This is the Pet Health Junkies 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:54,560 episode that we just released with Doctor Marlene Siegel on 51 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:59,440 detoxing for your pets. I know you're going to love 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,240 this. Come back to me wherever you 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,000 are. Instagram is my favorite place 54 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,120 to be and let me know what you think and I will talk to you 55 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,120 next week. Originally, Doctor Siegel, we 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,200 wanted to have you come on and talk about your stick 6 steps. 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,520 I think that's what we had talked about. 58 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,040 So I don't know. I can do it in 15 minutes. 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,200 OK, do you want to do that? I do. 60 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,000 I do get this light away from my head. 61 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,480 I look like I have a You're good. 62 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:26,240 I got a globe here. You look amazing and as always. 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,040 Thank you. I've been doing like one thing 64 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,240 after another. OK so 6 steps. 65 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,360 I, I want to set the stage for this because there is so much 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,320 noise and so much confusion and so many opinions and you know, 67 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,120 everybody goes on social media and they get the answers right. 68 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,200 So it's like butt holes. Everybody has one, some stink 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,680 worse than others. And, and so we have to figure 70 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,480 out a plan that when, when you build a house, you don't just 71 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,200 throw the roof on you. You start with the foundation 72 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,320 and then that from that foundation you put in the core 73 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,200 functional pieces. You know, the infrastructure has 74 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,640 to go in and then after you have the core foundation and the 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,680 infrastructure is there and then you build your walls and your 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,920 roof, now you can start to decorate. 77 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,600 So I say it that way because I think for a lot of people, 78 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,000 they're on social media and they hear a curcumin, it's 79 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,880 anti-inflammatory, it's anti cancer. 80 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,519 Oh, we're going to feed our dog curcumin. 81 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,280 That is the painting and the the add-ons that you can do in the 82 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:28,000 house, but it's not contributing to the foundation and the 83 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,320 structure. So here is the foundation and 84 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,320 structure that we all can utilize. 85 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,640 So step number one, stop doing the things that are causing the 86 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,960 problem and we look at food. So we just talked very heavily 87 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,560 on food. Quit feeding processed foods 88 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,760 here. We yed there's other ways to get 89 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,040 around it #2 is water. It has to be structured and 90 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,880 filtered water. I think we, we had a water 91 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,960 discussion once before #3 your air quality extremely important 92 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,000 because our homes have worse air quality than anywhere in the 93 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,920 world. Outside is even cleaner because 94 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,280 at least it rains and the wind blows away toxins. 95 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,440 But inside we don't have circulation. 96 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,840 So we have to have better air scrubbers in the house. 97 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:14,840 And then the amount of cleaning materials and things that touch 98 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:17,640 our skin. So our laundry soap, our 99 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,880 cleaning supplies, we need to go back to DIY, get rid of those 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,440 xenoestrogens in our laundry soap, go back to natural systems 101 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,920 and then number whatever is the electromagnetic frequency. 102 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,400 This is really important because right now we used to talk about 103 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,280 dirty electricity and it and it was an issue, but it's worse now 104 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:40,640 because since COVID, these electric companies have started 105 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,280 to use the ground wire that comes into the house. 106 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:46,560 I don't even know how to explain all that, but anyhow, they're 107 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:52,840 loading that with frequency and that's creating way more dirty 108 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:54,400 electricity coming into the homes. 109 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:59,800 So there are devices now that can be put on your, the 110 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,480 electricity as it's coming out of the panel and coming into the 111 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,320 house to actually get rid of all of that dirty electricity 112 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,800 because it is wicked bad. And then smart appliances, all 113 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,560 the things that we're doing, like I'm hardwired right now. 114 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,480 And so I'm mitigating the amount of EMF that I'm having to deal 115 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,000 with. Don't keep phones near your head 116 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,720 and all that. And then the last we had food, 117 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,080 we have water, we have air quality, we have the everything 118 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,160 that touches our skin, the EMF. And then the last one, which I 119 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,880 think is equally important to all of the rest, are the ants in 120 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,040 our brain. And those are the automatic 121 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,480 negative thoughts. And why that's important is 122 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,800 because when we have a thought or an emotion attached with that 123 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,160 thought, we create neurochemicals. 124 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,720 We're literally signaling the inside of our body, our cells, 125 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,120 our mitochondria are communicating to the microbiome 126 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,960 and they're telling our genome what to do so in order to 127 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,480 survive. So when we have a lot of 128 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,600 negativity, we're in high sympathetic tone, we're angry, 129 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,320 frustrated, we're blame, we're shame, we're bitter, we we don't 130 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,160 forgive. Those set off an entirely 131 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:10,000 different neurochemistry to our body, communicating that all the 132 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,480 way down to our DNA. And so our DNA is being changed 133 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,200 thinking that we have a very dangerous inhospitable world out 134 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,760 there. It doesn't know why, it just 135 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,160 knows. It's getting that neurochemical 136 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,720 that's telling it that when you are in a state of bliss and 137 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,800 gratitude and joy and happiness, I try to go there at least 90% 138 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,200 of my day. And it's probably higher because 139 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,320 I really don't let a lot of negative things affect me. 140 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,000 And so now you're creating a whole different set of 141 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,760 neurochemicals that are then going out and communicating to 142 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,800 your cells. Why that's important to our pets 143 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,720 is because they entrain to our frequency. 144 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,640 So as we send off that signal, they look to us and they go, I 145 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,800 don't know where the Saber toothed tiger is, but I can tell 146 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,560 based on your frequency that I have to stay on high alert 147 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,600 because it's out there versus I have a safe world. 148 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,400 I can rest, I can digest, I can repair, and I can detoxify. 149 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,080 OK, so that's step number one. Step number 2 is we have to have 150 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,720 those essential nutrients that the body has to have in order to 151 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,480 run its metabolic functions. So I know we look like some 152 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,480 fancy thing here, but we have all these chemical pathways that 153 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,280 are happening under the skin and they require these cofactors in 154 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,720 order to make sure that they're running. 155 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,720 As an example, vitamin D, vitamin D and magnesium are 156 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,520 required to run our innate immune system. 157 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:40,039 That is the immune system that does not operate under our 158 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:42,799 conscious control. So thank goodness that we don't, 159 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:45,800 they don't have to send the signal to the brain to say, hey, 160 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,160 there is a dangerous thing entering your body, you need to 161 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,160 do something about it. And we missed the memo, right? 162 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,000 So the innate system works without our conscious control 163 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,480 and it just takes care of it. Imagine if you're deficient in 164 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,000 vitamin D or magnesium, that system is off. 165 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,120 Like literally offline. Well, 85%, this is a university 166 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,920 study. 85% of dogs that were eating a kibble diet were tested 167 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,480 and they were vitamin D insufficient. 5% eating kibble 168 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,400 were vitamin D deficient because the diet's insufficient because 169 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,160 that meat, if there was even meat in it, was never out in the 170 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,440 sun. So. 171 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,320 So yeah, am I tying it together so you see how important this 172 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,280 is? So for me, I can't. 173 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,400 And I live in a food forest, guys, so I don't even know the 174 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,480 quality of the nutrients in my food. 175 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,640 Hey. I have a lot of gratitude for 176 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,040 the food. And I enjoy eating it, but I 177 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,800 still take my essential vitamins, minerals, fatty acids 178 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,560 and amino acids. Those are the four things that 179 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:47,600 you have to have for your body to work. 180 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,160 And the same goes for the pets. So in my opinion, I think that 181 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,160 we need to feed that species appropriate diet and we need to 182 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,600 supplement with these essential nutrients that we don't care 183 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:01,040 terror if they're not in the food because you're not 184 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,040 overdosing it. The worst that can happen is you 185 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,880 pee out some extra nutrients, no problem, but at least you know 186 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,360 that they're there. Number 3 is to heal the leaky 187 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,840 gut. And I would stick my neck out 188 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,480 and tell you that 95% of the animals that we're dealing with, 189 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,840 if not higher, have leaky gut. What does that look like? 190 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,760 It looks like the picky eater. It looks like the animal with 191 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,840 skin problems, ear infections, GI issues, autoimmune diseases, 192 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:32,840 cancer ain't doing right. All of those are examples of 193 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,880 animals that have bad digestion. They have leaky gut. 194 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:37,880 So we have protocols to fix that. 195 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,360 But of course, you can't fix the gut till you stop damaging it. 196 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,640 Let's use some common sense #4 is my area of passion, which is 197 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,200 detoxification of all six organs of elimination. 198 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:55,520 We have a kidney, colon, lungs, liver, skin and lymphatics slash 199 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:57,840 fascia. Fascia really deserves its own, 200 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,240 but I'm going to stick them together for now because the 201 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,320 lymph runs through the fascia. The fascia is all that space 202 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,760 that we thought was empty. None of it's empty. 203 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:13,120 So when we are unable to support those organs of elimination and 204 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,040 people get sicker and sicker, then it's because they can't get 205 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,480 rid of the toxins. So that's why they end up 206 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,440 getting sicker is you've got all this toxicity coming in and your 207 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,280 organs of elimination, which were designed to get rid of all 208 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,080 of that, aren't functioning. So we have to support those 209 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,000 organs of elimination. I've got tons and tons of 210 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,760 information how to do that. Number 5 is the mitochondria. 211 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,560 So we have these little organisms that live in and our 212 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:46,120 cells, trillions of them, and they make energy for our body. 213 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,400 How cool is that? If they are not healthy, if they 214 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,400 are not happy, if there's not enough of them, then not only do 215 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,640 we not have enough energy to function, run all of our 216 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,840 biological pathways and still enjoy life, but they also 217 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,720 communicate with the microbiome, all those microorganisms in and 218 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,480 on us, and they communicate what's happening from what we're 219 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,480 feeding them information. So we're the our eyes and ears 220 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,640 and our thoughts are the lunar modules sending information back 221 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,800 that then goes to the mitochondria, to the microbiome 222 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,520 and it tells our genome what to do. 223 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,680 And I want to mention one other thing, because right now we're 224 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:30,680 in a world where it's anti parasites, antibiotics, 225 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,520 antifungal. Well, that's actually anti life 226 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:38,720 is what we're talking about because we use more functional 227 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,640 genes from the microbiome by something like 100 to 1. 228 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,600 Then we do our own functional gene pool. 229 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,720 In other words, if we didn't have all these organisms that we 230 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,920 lived in symbiotic relationship with, allowing us to use their 231 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,120 genetic information, their functional genes, we could not 232 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,160 survive. And the more we kill them off, 233 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:08,120 the more functionality we lose. So what we really want to focus 234 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:13,200 on is the terrain of the body. How do we make home for all of 235 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,720 us? We're we're like for the ship. 236 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,640 And that ship has to stay healthy in order for all the 237 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,320 microbes and organisms to function symbiotically with us. 238 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,320 It's when the terrain becomes bad that they go, Oh my gosh, my 239 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,720 ship is going down. I need to do something. 240 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,600 So they become, they produce pathogens, kind of like the 241 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,600 weeds in the garden. The weeds are not the enemy, The 242 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,680 pathogens are not the enemy. They're simply telling us that 243 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:43,200 the terrain is bad. So we need to focus on how do we 244 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,920 make a happier terrain and then not try to kill all the 245 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,480 pathogens because we're in killing the pathogens, we're 246 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,160 also killing the good guys. And then last but not least, I 247 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,440 did this another 10 minutes. Last but not least is the 248 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,960 trapped emotion. So all dis ease, there is no 249 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,640 disease. There is dis ease, meaning the 250 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,080 body is not in homeostasis. We're not in balance and all dis 251 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,560 ease has trapped emotions associated with it. 252 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,800 So when we can decipher what that trapped emotion or emotions 253 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,040 are associated with that particular challenge, then we 254 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:24,480 can transmute those emotions into a higher vibration and 255 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,520 release them and then go on to start to heal. 256 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,400 How is that? It was amazing. 257 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,760 I do want one point of clarification, which I think 258 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,080 think hopefully anybody listening would be like Jessica, 259 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,200 but just for clarification, when you were talking about Step 2, 260 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,760 the essential nutrients and that you supplement those, you are 261 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:51,240 referring to not synthetics because we just established 262 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,320 earlier with food that we're not looking for synthetics, right? 263 00:14:54,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Yes, but in like the B vitamin classification, some of them may 264 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:06,520 be bioavailable because they they, you can't get therapeutic 265 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,000 levels of B vitamins in just your food. 266 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,640 So these are like bioidentical, they're not technically 267 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:19,200 synthetic, but they're not technically the natural like at 268 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,920 out of the plant because it has to be boosted. 269 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,720 So it boosted in a normal way. But these and it's not all of 270 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,280 them. I'm specifically referring to 271 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,920 the B vitamins because they are so critical to our overall 272 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,520 well-being. And when we're deficient in 273 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,880 them, it affects everything. So we have to be able to have 274 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,080 therapeutic levels and that's the difference between eating 275 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,840 your salad every day and taking a vitamin. 276 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,000 Men, the goal is to have therapeutic levels. 277 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,480 So think about vitamin C and we don't make vitamin C in our 278 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,760 body, but our dogs do. I was involved in clinical 279 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,320 trials and we were able to prove that dogs that are dealing with 280 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:06,360 cancer aren't able to produce as much vitamin C as they did when 281 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,280 they were in a healthy state. So we need to supplement them. 282 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:15,040 We need to provide more support and for me, taking the essential 283 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,080 vitamins, minerals, fatty acids and immunity, amino acids are 284 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,960 that support, right? It's like an analogy. 285 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,120 If there's something not working in your car and you're really 286 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,960 not sure what it is, then do you by process of elimination start 287 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,760 figuring out where the problem is? 288 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,360 What if you could just provide the body with the essentials 289 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,080 that it needs there in a bioavailable form? 290 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,480 Same thing with amino acids. And like amino acids come from 291 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:46,040 our protein, when we digest our protein properly, we release the 292 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,480 individual unit of that protein, which is an amino acid. 293 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,280 Now it's able to be picked up by the intestinal tract, carried to 294 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,640 the liver. The liver either uses it for 295 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,760 building or it stores it. But when it's deficient in our 296 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,680 food, so we're going to get a little technical here, but 297 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,640 glyphosate, that terrible product that is raining down on 298 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,960 us and spread worldwide. Now glyphosate blocks a pathway 299 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,800 in the bacteria called the shikimate pathway. 300 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,760 This shikimate pathway is responsible for producing the 301 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:27,280 three amino acids that make up our ability to produce dopamine, 302 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,160 serotonin are feel good hormones. 303 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:35,160 So if the plant can't produce it because that pathway is blocked, 304 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,280 where are you getting it from because your body doesn't 305 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,280 produce those? So again, it comes back to, I'm 306 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,320 just going to make sure that all those essential nutrients are in 307 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,800 the body in a bioavailable form. Now I don't have to worry about 308 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,400 it. That makes sense, yes. 309 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,040 Yes. And I'm, I'm not only thinking 310 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,120 like, OK, we're not getting it necessarily. 311 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:03,000 We may or may not be from our food because like you said, our 312 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,320 soils are depleted and you know, so many, most of the food that 313 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,640 we have in our human food supply, certainly it's just not 314 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,000 raised properly to actually have viable nutrients in it. 315 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,040 But Step 3 was healing leaky gut. 316 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:23,720 And I feel like, you know, there are varying degrees of that, but 317 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:28,160 certainly in more severe cases of leaky gut, they may not even 318 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,880 be able to get those nutrients, whatever is there in their food. 319 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,560 Yeah, very absolute correct statement. 320 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,440 The worst the gut is the and your digestion overall. 321 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,080 Like if your bacteria are off because you've had multiple 322 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,240 rounds of antibiotics, I'm referring to our pets. 323 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,520 Now if they've been spayed and neutered, they've been on 324 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,200 antibiotics. Their home arms are screwed up. 325 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:53,680 Now, you know, all these layers are adding to this problem. 326 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,720 So now we have poor digestion. They eat protein, but they they 327 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,960 may not have enough enzymes to break it down. 328 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,360 Where when you're eating living food, living food has the 329 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:09,320 enzymes already in it to break it down. 330 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,920 That's why food rots. So when you have an apple and 331 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,720 you bruise it, you're bruising some of the cells, which is 332 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,120 releasing the enzymes that are used to digest apple. 333 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,120 Now, when you bite into it and you chew it, you're releasing 334 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:24,560 those enzymes as well. But if you ever watch things, 335 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,000 when it rots in the refrigerator, it starts in one 336 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,800 spot and then it spreads because as those enzymes are moving out, 337 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,360 they're going into the next layer of cell. 338 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,480 They break that down, they release their enzyme, they go 339 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,120 into the next layer. So when we're eating living 340 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:41,640 food, we are using those enzymes to aid in our digestion. 341 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,240 Our pancreas was never designed to do all the work by itself. 342 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,800 It was designed to be the backup organ. 343 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,920 So if you need a little bit more enzyme to breakdown protein or 344 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,520 sugars or fats or whatever, then it gives you that extra little 345 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,440 push. We're feeding our animals such 346 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,280 highly processed foods that the only thing they're digesting 347 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,480 with is their pancreas. So is it a surprise that they 348 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,560 get? Pancreatic diseases, and they 349 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,720 get insulin resistance and they get pancreatic cancer and 350 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,880 pancreatitis. Not a shock. 351 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,680 You know it. When you understand what's 352 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,720 happening at the biological level, it makes a lot of sense. 353 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,320 It does. I want to give Pam and Janet 354 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,880 some time to talk to you too. Now, this has been fabulous and 355 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,840 thank you for running through that so quickly, but it's you. 356 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,920 Hit on a lot of really great points that people tend to. 357 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,680 Overlook. Because they zero in on, you 358 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,360 know, one or two things, but they forget the other things 359 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,720 that are just as important. And I think when you look at a, 360 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,400 you know, from a synergistic perspective, they're all 361 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,040 contributing to stress and disease in the body. 362 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,840 So we have to address all those areas or you will not have true 363 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,920 health and healing. Absolutely. 364 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,240 And it's balance, you know, we've lost because there's so 365 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,840 much confusion, there's so much noise, there's so many dangly 366 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,800 objects. We forgot how to build the 367 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,240 foundation and how to put the infrastructure in place and then 368 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:11,160 create the final product. So everything that I do is very 369 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,840 pinpoint. It's a methodical process of 370 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,400 being able to fix some biological process. 371 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,480 And it doesn't mean that there would. 372 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,640 Maybe there's other products that you could use. 373 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,080 I've just curated the things that have become really good 374 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,720 under my hands. Again, maybe a lot of other 375 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,400 things that are out there, but the thought process is the same. 376 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,240 You want to fix from the ground up, you want to build the 377 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,720 terrain, you want to support the body so that it can actually do 378 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,640 its job. We don't heal anything, ladies. 379 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,000 We are simply either getting in the way or we're supporting the 380 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,760 system, but the system knows what to do. 381 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,960 We've screwed it up. Yeah, I think from my 382 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:58,040 perspective, being a retail store, it is so challenging with 383 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,480 every person that walks through the door because the mass 384 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,120 majority of pet parents going back to even saying what you 385 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:11,280 said about foundation, the information that has been handed 386 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,400 down to us for decades is not, is just not truthful. 387 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,920 That's a that's a pleasant way of saying it. 388 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,880 And and you know what? It may be at the very top of the 389 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,120 pyramid. Maybe that was an evil intention 390 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:26,480 that started it. I don't know. 391 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:32,000 But those of us who were trained use veterinarians as an example. 392 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,800 We all went into our profession to do good, right? 393 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,960 But we were taught a belief system. 394 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,280 And what is a belief system? It's a thought we keep 395 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,080 repeating. So we have our mental body. 396 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,600 Can I go over the five bodies? Might have done this before. 397 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,640 You have your spiritual body, your connection to higher 398 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,600 consciousness. Then you have your mental body, 399 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,080 which is where our thoughts come in. 400 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,840 Then the emotional body, where our emotions come from, and we 401 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,280 have them on the full spectrum. We go from the lowest frequency, 402 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,080 which is the lowest frequency, which is shame, all the way to 403 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,400 the highest frequency, which is actually gratitude. 404 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,360 How cool is that? And so, and it's that spectrum. 405 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:16,480 And I think part of the game is to be able to identify those low 406 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,720 frequencies and move them to the physical body so that they 407 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,760 manifest into our physical experience. 408 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,840 So. So a belief is simply a thought 409 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,160 married to an emotion that you feel strongly about. 410 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,640 Doesn't make it right, doesn't make it wrong. 411 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,800 So when we went to veterinary school, we were taught to think 412 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,200 that nutrition came in a bag and that Hills and Yuka Nuba and 413 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,240 these Purina were the end all be all of nutrition and they knew 414 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,320 what they were doing. Right. 415 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,400 Look at human nutrition, it's not a whole lot different, 416 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,560 right? So we have been ton taught 417 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,800 critical thinking skills. We have been in kind of 418 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,560 suppressed to the point where we don't ask questions, but yet 419 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,920 we're shown the truth and then we don't connect to it. 420 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,000 Like the dots are still separated. 421 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,760 But if you think about when we watched Mutual of Omaha Wild 422 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,320 Kingdom, who's old enough to remember that? 423 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,160 Raise your hand. All right, Only two of us. 424 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,040 Well, in Perkins, right? I don't know if they still have 425 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,800 replays, but it was amazing. We we learned every week. 426 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,600 We learned about wild animals and how they lived in the wild 427 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,280 and how they killed another animal and they ate it and blah, 428 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,280 blah, blah. National Geographics is our 429 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,120 modern version of that. We watch what nature does, and 430 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:36,320 yet we don't look at nature for our answers. 431 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,400 I do because that is literally my teacher. 432 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,000 If I have a question about anything, I will turn to nature 433 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,760 and I will go find me that model in nature. 434 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,480 And then I'm going to model after that because, you know, 435 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,480 nature is sustainable. So we just have to take back our 436 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,160 critical thinking. We have to take back our power. 437 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,080 Our power to heal is in US. We have given our power away. 438 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,120 We have said, country, you take care of US, government, you take 439 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:08,960 care of us. I'm going to trust agencies to 440 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,760 make sure that my stuff is safe. And I can't tell you in the 441 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,960 beginning of my practice, when I started understanding nutrition 442 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,440 and people would say, but why would why would they serve this 443 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,200 in a restaurant or in a grocery store if it wasn't healthy? 444 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,240 Healthy, Yes, they can. And they made money off of it. 445 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,520 But now, you know, shame on us once, but shame on us twice. 446 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,040 No, no, no. So now it's that time where we 447 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,640 start becoming more discerning. We start using our critical 448 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,800 thinking skills. We vote with our dollars. 449 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,480 OK, Mike, everybody get that vote with your dollars. 450 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,160 When you pay for a meal at a restaurant and you did not ask 451 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,880 for seed oil free and gluten free, then you are promoting 452 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,480 that business to continue to poison people. 453 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,880 I can't make that any nicer. So if I have to go out to eat 454 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,640 and I am apia to go pain in the to go out to eat with because I 455 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,200 will call ahead now. I will talk to the chef. 456 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:14,840 I will tell them I have an allergy against canola and soy 457 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,600 and vegetable oil because they know all three names. 458 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,640 And then I and I am 100% gluten free. 459 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,800 I'll get very, very ill right there at the table and so there 460 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,800 and most restaurants are really good at taking care of that now. 461 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:33,160 So you have to stand up for yourself because nobody that 462 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,280 chef, his job is to make good food for you to eat for you to 463 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,680 enjoy it. And you enjoy it in the moment, 464 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,400 but you don't enjoy it the next day or the next year when it's 465 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,280 creating dis ease in the body. So we have to stand up and be 466 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,920 our own advocate. And when it comes to our pets, 467 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,960 we are their guardian. We are the steward of the earth 468 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,360 and we are the guardian for our pets. 469 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,240 And it's up to us to learn the truth and then act upon it. 470 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,560 And it's not hard. It just means evaluating your 471 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,680 belief system and going, maybe I need to learn a little bit more. 472 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,440 And then once you learn more, you can't unknown, you can't 473 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,200 Unsee, and you can't unhear. So it's truly our responsibility 474 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,520 at as humans having an earthly experience to learn and do 475 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,000 better. Yes, How are you doing on time, 476 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,680 Pam? I'm going to have to go all. 477 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:32,640 This has been great. I can stay girls if you want 478 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,880 because I came on late. I am so so sorry. 479 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,160 Apology, you're good. I'm going to have to get rolling 480 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,840 too. I do want to say though the back 481 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,680 to the foundation, the I think the all of that about food is so 482 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,800 true. And being in a retail 483 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,320 environment, we have these choices and we make those best 484 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,840 choices, you know, that are available to us to bring into 485 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:07,040 the market to offer to pet parents and one of the like. 486 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800 You have the different steps. Well, when we're talking with 487 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,520 pet parents, we have to assess where they are in the process. 488 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,720 And most of us are at the bottom rung of the ladder just becoming 489 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,480 awake and kind of peeking behind the veil, if you will, or behind 490 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,120 the Wizard of Oz curtain to say what's really going on here. 491 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:32,760 Because we are in that time period where people are being 492 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,680 not woke, awakened. And you know, the ones who are 493 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,440 further along in that journey are always more receptive 494 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,040 because as you mentioned, they have to be ready to receive. 495 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,440 But we do have to keep it like we have to water it down. 496 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,120 When you going back again to foundation, I'm always gut 497 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,320 first. Gut first because that's the 498 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,320 part of the receiving mechanism, if you will. 499 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,520 And I think it's safe to assume that 100% of the pets that walk 500 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:11,080 through the door anywhere have leaky gut because we've just 501 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,320 started to learn in, in recent years about leaky gut for 502 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,120 humans. And again, like you said, it 503 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,520 translates from what we know for ourselves. 504 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,680 We start to on that journey think, OK, well, if it's true 505 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,080 for me, then it is. How true is that for my pet? 506 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,880 And you know, it is, it's always a good day when you have a, a 507 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,960 pet and all of them are well meaning. 508 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,480 They're just a long different points on the path or the 509 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,840 journey. And it's up to us to question 510 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,200 them and to find out where they are. 511 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,560 And then in that discussion where we're talking, not just 512 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,680 food, we're talking about gut health. 513 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,080 It's always a great day when they are receptive to learning 514 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:03,880 about how critical the habitat of the gut Biome is to, you 515 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,880 know, you can go buy the best raw food, but if the gut is 516 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,880 unhealthy, it can only do so much. 517 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,920 Yes. Just when I think about you, 518 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,920 Doctor Siegel, I mean, you are, you have eclipsed the ladder and 519 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,120 you are walking on that tightrope. 520 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,000 And it would be, I mean, that's just a, a dream to have 521 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,280 everybody, you know, myself included, to be able to walk 522 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,800 where, how you walk and to, to know what you know and to do the 523 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,720 things that you do. And so I think on a practical 524 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,320 standpoint, as I see like all three of us addressing our 525 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,760 relationships with our customers and clients and it's OK, where 526 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,440 are they and where is that jumping off point? 527 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,200 And I mean, for us in the retail space, it is always gut health. 528 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:58,080 And it's the ones that aren't ready to hear that or to wrap 529 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,520 their head around what we're telling them. 530 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,360 And I'm just going to stick with what I'm doing. 531 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,800 It's crushing. Yeah. 532 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,640 Because when you know better, you want to do better. 533 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,520 Yeah. But, you know, imparting your 534 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,120 knowledge and then having it received, I mean, maybe you. 535 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,040 Again, we're just at the very tip of learning that learning 536 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,480 curve and it's just going to open up, right? 537 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,960 That's what we can hope for. And we were talking prior to you 538 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:33,720 joining us about trends in the pet food industry and now we're 539 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,680 seeing the veterinary community and and they're going to have to 540 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,360 adjust. We foreshadowing and tell us 541 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,000 they're going to have to adjust on this human food, real food. 542 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:54,000 You know, previously we're we're going to die on that hill by 543 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,560 saying no, they need kibble it, you know, it's that's the only 544 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,320 diet for them. It gets the tartar off the 545 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,360 teeth, which I just love. I'm like, actually, it does the 546 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,680 complete opposite. But you know we're seeing all 547 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:13,440 the big pet food companies now going to fresh food and that in 548 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,480 itself we were talking about it's an opportunity to educate 549 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,400 because they have the dollars to reach the market. 550 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,680 Hopefully the market will come back and talk to us so we can 551 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:29,000 then talk about sourcing, manufacturing and again in gut 552 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,520 so. Yeah, some of these big box 553 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,720 companies are actually buying some of the small raw boutiques. 554 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,680 So they don't know where the trends are going. 555 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,800 You know, that's their job is to do capitalism, which I'm a 556 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,920 capitalist. I I love it, but not at 557 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,800 somebody's expense or, or to harm others. 558 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,440 So yes, so we do see that trend going and, and now the movement 559 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,040 is so big, even though I, I'll call and get a consultation, 560 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,000 maybe at the lab and I'll ask the question about, well, 561 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,040 couldn't we use diet to do XY or Z? 562 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,600 And you can just see the doctor roll their eyes. 563 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,440 But once in a while I'll get one of these specialists and they'll 564 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,560 go, oh, tell me more about that. And I've actually had a couple 565 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,760 of them take my veterinary training course. 566 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,200 So yes, we are making headway. And I think your point about 567 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:19,520 meeting people where they're at is 1000% the right thing to do, 568 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,640 but we don't want to leave them there. 569 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,720 We want to give them a little bit of a loving embrace to take 570 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,360 one step forward. So, you know, I think I've told 571 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,560 you this guys before. I think I've shared that I tell 572 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,800 people to create a piece of paper, fold it in half and make 573 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,000 column A column B and column A are all the things that they're 574 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,080 learning about this podcast. Anything, all the things that 575 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,280 they're learning about that they're not doing yet, and that 576 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,040 becomes all of column A and then column B are all the things we 577 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,960 shouldn't be doing. We've been taught, but we're 578 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,560 still doing it because we haven't learned the substitution 579 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,200 for it. Now instead of being analysis 580 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,160 paralysis, and I did so overwhelming, I won't do 581 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,560 anything now. You just pick one thing from 582 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,440 column A to start and one thing from column B to stop, and it 583 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,679 may be the same thing. Maybe it's feeding 50% raw and 584 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,560 less kibble. It makes enough to be 100%. 585 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,719 So do what you can, but do something. 586 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,679 Don't stay in the same spot. Einstein said Insanity is doing 587 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,000 the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. 588 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:33,000 Well, we cannot ignore the health or lack thereof of our 589 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,560 fur babies, so people will do things for their pets that they 590 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,920 won't do for themselves. So you guys are truly in the 591 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,199 groundbreaking position to be able to help educate people how 592 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:48,199 to make that transition, even if it's a little bit at a time. 593 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,000 It's OK. I do not have the lifestyle I 594 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,920 have overnight. Now when people hang out with 595 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,840 me, they go, this is freaking amazing. 596 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,880 I don't think I could do it, but it's amazing. 597 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:05,040 So, but you know, I've had over 40 years to implement and I 598 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,240 think almost every week something new comes across my 599 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,760 wheelhouse and I integrate that into it. 600 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,840 It's a little bit by a little bit, but it was literally one 601 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,480 step at a time. Sure. 602 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,480 So I think we need to do a podcast where you guys come down 603 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,640 to my house and we do it in the food forest. 604 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,800 Wouldn't that be cool? Or we can do it from in my 605 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,200 office. We'll do another one for my 606 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,920 office. You know, I won't be late. 607 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,520 And so I'll be like, did that to you guys twice, I think. 608 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,200 Anyway, my apologies. And that would be cool. 609 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,240 Yeah, we could actually do a live out of my office and just 610 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,080 show all the different things that I do. 611 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,000 That would be for everybody, but everybody can find where they're 612 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,560 comfortable starting. And I think that's a good place 613 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:50,040 to wrap it up is just everybody has a jumping off point that 614 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,320 everyone can make small changes, even if it's just one thing at a 615 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,480 time. And it really is. 616 00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:01,080 I was listening to you a couple of wins, small wins have come 617 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,720 across, you know, this week and it's we're on Wednesday. 618 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:09,920 So I think that's awesome. But you know, when you're trying 619 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,280 to help a pet parent who may be a little resistant to the new 620 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,160 knowledge that you have, you know, planted there and you see 621 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:23,280 them come back and it's a positive change that you've 622 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,200 helped them to make that that is a celebration. 623 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,000 Because. And one, one woman who literally 624 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,000 told me, don't tell me I don't want to know. 625 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,120 And so for me, that was OK. I'm overwhelming her back up. 626 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,360 You know, I don't you don't take it personally. 627 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,040 And I was and I appreciated her honesty and I said, OK, great. 628 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,480 Thank you. I mean, I, I understand that 629 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,680 because I have been right where you are standing where it was 630 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,520 like, OK, I've I've heard enough. 631 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,640 I need to digest what I've heard. 632 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:03,400 But we actually got her from I don't know how to say this one 633 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,760 of the the unsavory big pet foods and quote UN quote, you 634 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,960 know, air quote prescription foods to the freezer one I got 1 635 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,480 Patty at a time. Yeah, so. 636 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:23,560 And we, we now have like gotten a 3 LB package of the fresh and 637 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,080 we've left the other stuff behind. 638 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,000 So we're getting there. We're getting there. 639 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,040 So we all started somewhere, you know, and it doesn't matter 640 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,400 where you start, it's just the fact that you're moving forward. 641 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,240 Yeah, I laugh because when the first time that an independent 642 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:43,960 pet store owner talked to me about raw food, I said what we 643 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,800 hear just thousands of people say. 644 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,440 It's like raw food. You want me to kill my dog 645 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,400 because I knew raw food from the grocery store. 646 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,800 And it says intended for, you know, to be cooked before being 647 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,280 consumed. And that tells you how I knew 648 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,960 absolutely nothing. I mean, I had been feeding, you 649 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,600 know, probably a Petco or PetSmart, you know, kibble or 650 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,040 Tractor Supply kibble. I don't even remember back then. 651 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,560 Yeah, and but I knew my dogs had problems and I needed help. 652 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,160 And for whatever reason, what the veterinarian had told me 653 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,840 that day, I said let me go and research what you're telling me 654 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,600 before I make a decision. And I went across the street to 655 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,280 an independent pet store that was woman owned. 656 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,840 And she was my first introduction to raw food. 657 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,840 And when she heard about the description of Hank's ailments, 658 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,280 which were he was overweight, he had oily fur and he had 659 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,040 allergies and yeast, you know, just paw licking and scratching. 660 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,520 And she, she went for it. She went for the jugular. 661 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,600 She goes, you need to switch him to raw food. 662 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,080 I was my, my brain exploded. And now my store is about to get 663 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,960 its 24th freezer. I love it. 664 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,320 So I was speaking with a specialist last week and it was 665 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,640 a dog that had a metabolic problem. 666 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,600 And so she had her prescription food that she had recommended. 667 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,160 And they said, well, I, I use a raw diet and she goes, well, 668 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,720 that's very dangerous because it it grows E coli and it's not 669 00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:23,760 nutritionally balanced. And she had all this 670 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,760 misinformation. So I just took a loving deep 671 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,400 breath and they said, well, this is actually a product that I 672 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,520 produce. It comes out of AUSDA facility. 673 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:39,440 Everything is inspected for E coli, listeria and salmonella by 674 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:45,120 the USDA and it's handled safer than most human products are. 675 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,200 And it comes from a grass fed grass finish source. 676 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:50,920 And I separate my micronutrients from my macro nutrients. 677 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,800 And she got so defensive. Well, you just do whatever you 678 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,000 think, and I'm OK. But you know what? 679 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,800 I planted a seed and I am sending love and compassion 680 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,480 because she's still a colleague of mine. 681 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,520 She is another veterinarian. And I know she's not saying 682 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,440 things because she's mean or hateful. 683 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,040 She doesn't know better. Now that I kind of like Siri, 684 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,560 you know when you say something out loud and Siri start sending 685 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,560 you ads? So now I planted that seed into 686 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,160 her mind and she's going to start investigating. 687 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,520 She's going to start being curious. 688 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,640 That's good, yeah. That is excellent. 689 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,200 And like you said, you don't take it personal. 690 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,600 She simply has a belief system that is very strong and she 691 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,600 doesn't know better. Yeah, I had a encounter with a 692 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,320 veterinarian in my store very, very recently who was 693 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,360 eavesdropping on my conversation with a couple. 694 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,360 And I am very honest in my store. 695 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,800 I have I too have a belief system and my belief system has 696 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,200 changed over the years. And so we discussions of topic 697 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,160 were vaccinations, flea, tick and heartworm, pesticides 698 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,800 because let's call them what they are, kibble diet versus a 699 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,560 raw diet. So we discussed tighter testing. 700 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:12,480 We discussed the lack of holistic veterinarians in our 701 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,000 community and the distance that you have to go if you if unless 702 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,120 you go online, you have to drive a distance to get a holistic 703 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,640 veterinarian in our area. She was visiting from out of 704 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,200 town. Her mom shops with us and at the 705 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:34,120 when I realized that what had been going on, I asked her if 706 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,200 she was a holistic or a traditional veterinarian and she 707 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,960 has her own clinic and she is a traditional veterinarian and I 708 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,720 asked her, would you become a holistic veterinarian? 709 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,200 Because we. We. 710 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,760 We need more and belief systems. And her reaction? 711 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,240 Her reaction? I did say. 712 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:59,600 I hope I did not offend you with my candid conversation because I 713 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,600 was very candid, as was she and, and she tolerated it. 714 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,840 But she did say, she said, you know, I was trained a certain 715 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,520 way. And this is going back to belief 716 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,120 systems. I was trained a certain way and 717 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:19,520 I'm so invested and I have my own clinic and in order to learn 718 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,960 that, it would take so much time and I don't have that time. 719 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,760 Yeah, wrong belief. Though yeah, that's a misbelief. 720 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,200 She chooses to continue down that path. 721 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:33,520 And that's where my heart breaks. 722 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,320 My heart breaks not even a little, a lot. 723 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,360 Because going back to if you know better, do better. 724 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,160 And when you know better and you choose to continue to do what 725 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,640 you've done, there's a lot. Yeah. 726 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,200 I don't know that I have the right word to say it right now, 727 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,120 but that is a little. It's disconcerting to hear. 728 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,200 It makes me sad to hear. Yeah, and you know, the truth of 729 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,440 the matter is she she wants to do good. 730 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,840 Yes. To look at your client and say 731 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,720 I'm sorry, there's nothing more I can offer except euthanasia. 732 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,040 They that that is takes part of our heart out like you really 733 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,960 suffer with that person in their pet. 734 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,320 So she just doesn't know that there's other options. 735 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,280 She doesn't know that there is a bigger tool kit. 736 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,880 Right. You know, maybe dropping a link 737 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,280 to one of my talks or one of my slideshow presentations or my 738 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,320 course for veterinarians, sharing something like that. 739 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,400 And just saying, I know you're not happy when you have to look 740 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,720 at a client and say there's nothing more that you can do. 741 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,920 But here are some other veterinarians who have found 742 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,440 another path. They've found a bigger toolkit 743 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,560 and even just even talking about ozone, because ozone is becoming 744 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,920 such a prominent conversation. So even if all she did 745 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,400 differently was include ozone in her conversation and she can 746 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,520 include that into her practice for a nominal investment and a 747 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,600 very short learning curve, and you're not doing any harm. 748 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,400 So even great like that would be amazing. 749 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,640 That's a very good point because there are things you don't have 750 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,560 to go for it. You can just start taking 751 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,240 courses and learn something like you said, the pick something 752 00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:22,960 from column A and start incorporating that. 753 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:25,760 And I don't know if that point when you could drop something 754 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,920 from column B in her situation, but hopefully, hopefully I 755 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,320 planted a seed and it would make her maybe look into it. 756 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,760 Yeah, I'm. Going to get in touch with her, 757 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,760 but maybe she'll listen to this, you know, or come across you. 758 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,440 Maybe she'll go look. Yeah. 759 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,920 And and I think that's where we do find a lot of veterinarians. 760 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,400 They finally get so discouraged and they're, you know, 761 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,320 compassion fatigue is that we have in the veterinary industry 762 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:57,600 the largest suicide rate of any industry because veterinarians 763 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,600 really do care. We care with all of our heart 764 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,440 and we spend so much of our time and our energy and we it's not a 765 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,760 high paying industry. So you know, these people out 766 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,480 there really doing it for the right reasons and to know that 767 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,240 you've not been able to be successful or that animal still 768 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:20,240 died or you didn't have another option to offer it can really. 769 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,480 And then the worst part is clients who want to turn around 770 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,120 and blame and shame their veterinarian. 771 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,440 And that is devastating. If you guys listening out there, 772 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,640 don't ever, ever, ever think that your words aren't 773 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,480 meaningful and painful. I mean, it could crush somebody. 774 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,200 I know too many of my colleagues that literally euthanize 775 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,480 themselves in their offices. They committed suicide because 776 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,240 the pain and the shame that people were doing to them. 777 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:55,040 Especially now we got social media and people can do reviews 778 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,440 and oh, it's a biased review. Yes. 779 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,280 I have so much confidence in who I am as a human being that if 780 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,000 somebody says things about me that aren't true, I just behave 781 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,760 so that they don't believe that. You. 782 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,320 Know because you can't do anything else about it, but just 783 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,640 keep your head up and be the person that you know you are. 784 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:23,040 And that's that's easy to say, but for those who are, they have 785 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,640 other things going on in their life. 786 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,760 They have, you know, that the pressures, the depression, the 787 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,840 whatever, you know, it just turns into a really sad 788 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,920 situation. So let's all just be more kind 789 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,800 and compassionate. Remember the old we grew up 790 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,000 saying, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say 791 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,640 anything at all. Like what if we went back to 792 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,920 that? Like you don't have to hurt 793 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,720 somebody to make you feel better. 794 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,920 What if you just acknowledge the fact that you have a difference 795 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,720 of an opinion. You're coming from different 796 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:57,200 places and everybody has the right to be in their own belief 797 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,080 system. I don't have to change you. 798 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,840 You don't have to change me. We can agree to disagree. 799 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,600 These are old adages like me to learn this growing up, at least 800 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,320 at my age. I learned it growing up and I've 801 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,280 lived that principle my whole entire life. 802 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,040 Even when I was married, I did not say things in anger. 803 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,040 I because I knew you can't take them back. 804 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,360 Right. Well, in the, in, the fortunate 805 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,160 thing is, is we do have choices and options. 806 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,320 And so if one's belief system does not align with the 807 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,280 practitioner that they're going to, whether it be for themselves 808 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,240 or their pets, family member, whatever it may be, you have 809 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:37,400 choices. And so just like you call around 810 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,880 to restaurants to see, you know, if they're serving up, you know, 811 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,480 healthy food options that align with your belief system, you can 812 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,440 do that with your your health practitioners, your 813 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:54,200 veterinarians, where you shop for groceries, you know, just 814 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,280 anything. Yeah, absolutely. 815 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,080 Spend your dollars on businesses that are going to help support 816 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,680 you, your pet and Mother Earth, period. 817 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,680 I mean, it's not hard. You definitely can choose where 818 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,720 you're putting your dollar because they are a vote yes. 819 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:17,320 And if enough people during, I mean during COVID, if there were 820 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,280 enough people that would have stood up and said no, the whole 821 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,560 thing would have collapsed in on the whole system. 822 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,120 But they didn't. And so many people got so 823 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,880 harmed, the IT was sad. It was really sad. 824 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,600 So I just try to live by that principle. 825 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,760 Make a choice, make a decision, learn, and then make that 826 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,000 decision based on some form of, I don't want to say scientific 827 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,920 evidence because science has been so bastardized and so 828 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,760 misused. But it still has to make common 829 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,480 sense. It has to follow know nature's 830 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,320 principles that and then we have to use our critical thinking 831 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,000 skills and say, is somebody making money off of this or are 832 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,560 they really looking at for my highest and best good? 833 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,520 And nobody is going to protect you but you. 834 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:11,280 The power to heal is within us. Period, end of story. 835 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,880 Don't be blaming your government. 836 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,800 Don't be blaming the grocery store or your vet or your doctor 837 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,920 or your pet store. Take responsibility and support 838 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,560 those that are supporting you in a healthy, sustainable way. 839 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,880 Very good. Thank you so much. 840 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,040 I know. I think that's like a perfect 841 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,480 place to end, too. That was a very powerful 842 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,280 statement, a perfect place to end. 843 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,520 Well, thank you ladies and thank you for letting me barge in at 844 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,080 the 11th hour and. We appreciate you so much. 845 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,640 Thank. You well, I I want to come back 846 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,280 on. I want to do more work with you 847 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,800 guys. I love what you're doing. 848 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,760 I really love the idea of doing 1 from my office and one from 849 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,320 the food forest. I think that would be cool. 850 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,400 Me too, definitely. All right, well, I got a big 851 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,480 house and lots of bedrooms, so you let me know when you're 852 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,240 coming. I love it. 853 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,320 Thank you so much, Doctor Siegel. 854 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,080 You're welcome, guys. Bye. 855 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,880 Bye bye, have a great rest of your week. 856 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,360 Bye. Bye.