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But it's such a big topic. 
And hi, Kara. 

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Hi everybody on Facebook and 
YouTube. 

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Welcome to the weekly Pet 
Roundup. 

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Welcome, welcome. 
So yes, we are continuing the 

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talk from last week about canine
cancer awareness wrapping, 

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wrapping up the month because it
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month in November. 
And I don't know, do you want to

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do like a recap of last week and
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get to or how do you I don't 
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Yeah. 
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about how lifestyle impacts the 
risk factors, right. 

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So we talked about how, yes, 
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do some really if we take some 
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risk. 
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you in the sense that if you've 
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your fault. 
That's not what we're saying. 

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But as we know more and as pet 
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are now learning how much of our
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factors. 
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environmental risks inside and 
outside the home. 

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We talked about obesity and how 
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like raising your pets risk. 
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lack of exercise, how that can 
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system. 
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that really were, you know, 
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maybe make one or two a 
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Yeah, So Diane Echo says I've 
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since January 2022. 
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no air fresheners. 
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that we talked about. 
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Like I haven't used any of those
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But it's like we can only 
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things that we can control 
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You don't know what third hand 
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That was an interesting one for 
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because like, even if somebody's
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car where somebody smoked at 
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smoking, nobody smoking next to 
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upholstery you're sitting on or 
in the vehicle you're riding in.

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So third hand smoke, those 
things really do impact your 

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exposure, right? 
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sucks because we can control if 
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waiting for somebody to pick us 
up, somebody smoking, we can 

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move away from them. 
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hotel room where they used to 
smoke, even if you don't smell 

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it, but you're still being 
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So that's what third hand smoke 
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But also perfumes, dyes, things 
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Those are only part of the 
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So there are also medications 
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that have like, you know, they 
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effect in studies in rats, this 
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So keeping our pets healthy is a
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medications for chronic 
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to reduce their risk. 
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is a nutritionist for dogs and 
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of food. 
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doing now is we're discussing 
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also how the body reacts to what
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So I don't believe you take over
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Well, yeah, we did. 
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and so many other things popped 
into my head as you were like 

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running down the list of things 
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like we could go in so many 
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hard. 
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I shared this reel on my 
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I know I sent it to a friend of 
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did share it. 
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sarcastically this guy on on a 
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So he was a guest on a health 
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So it was kind of sarcastic in 
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like, there's literally 
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us. 
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the learning, with that doing, 
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everything into place that we 
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we turn around, there is 
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reality of our world today. 
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know, with enough people waking 
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change that because it is 
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consumer demand. 
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interestingly, I, I just saw 
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it was kind of these two women. 
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a pre like memorized speech 
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forth and talking about. 
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shown that if women stop buying 
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economy would collapse. 
Hey, Bronwyn. 

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Hi Bronwyn, OMG if women stopped
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Cosmetic cosmetics. 
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and makeup, you know, perfumes 
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toxic, you know, we're putting 
toxic chemicals inside of us 

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when we are are menstruate. 
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Like all of the things. 
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economy would very likely 
collapse because it's such a big

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industry and we are sold as 
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And I think this is an important
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though we're talking about pet 
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overlap. 
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going in, I have even talked to 
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who are interested in getting 
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I'm talking to them about the 
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the are you on like a cream 
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So like we can get really nitty 
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And but women we are marketed to
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us in the pet industry as well. 
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are not, not the ones looking at
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and, and saying, yes, that's 
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right? 
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being marketed to for all of the
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We're constantly being told that
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pretty enough, that we're not 
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are not long enough, that our 
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our lips aren't full enough, 
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everything. 
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difference if we just stand up 
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it's OK. 
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all these things. 
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of these toxins into your home. 
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but. 
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if your pets are being diagnosed
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looking at you too. 
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our home, anybody we need to 
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process in our bodies, right? 
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pinpoint, but there is an 
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start looking at it a little bit
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being exposed to, what is 
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be putting us at risk too. 
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first cat had bowel cancer and 
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liver, a sarcoma. 
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organs that is most taxed on all
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our pets, just everybody. 
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organ. 
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on, you know, toxins, whether in
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course our liver is going to 
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Guessing from fire retardant 
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Yes, like I learned that so much
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And did you know that car seats 
are like doused in fire 

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retardant furniture in in like 
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the car seat is enveloped in 
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seat really need that? 
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that's going to help my child. 
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single time I put them in that 
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that are known endocrine 
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carcinogens. 
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not have that because it's not 
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past and it just kind of caught 
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there. 
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furniture. 
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in my furniture and I see that 
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the fire retardant on my couch 
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fire retardant, right? 
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but not me. 
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I mean, it doesn't make any 
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things just like the pajamas 
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cigarettes and their babies and 
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certain age. 
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goes up to, but infants mostly. 
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look for the label that says 
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it because I have to look for 
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industry standard is the fire 
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dangerous because it doesn't 
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When you're not thinking, like 
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enveloped in like engulfed in 
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doing anything. 
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So we talked a lot about the 
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going wrong in the environment 
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what's going wrong, but kind of 
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So if you start one of the 
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looking for what's not in there.
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all have to retrain ourselves to
do with literally everything 

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we're buying. 
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that I think of outside of food,
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synthetics in my food. 
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are so many supplements on the 
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that I think the pet industry is
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industry in a lot of cases, 
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And so we need to be not just 
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active ingredients? 
Are these things in alignment 

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inactive ingredients and we also

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need to be paying attention to, 
especially with things like 

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bioaccumulators, the certificate
of analysis showing that it, it 

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isn't loaded with heavy metals, 
it isn't toxic, It it doesn't 

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have what depends on on the 
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see a lot of fillers. 
There's no, no need for them. 

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You're buying, you're paying for
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So I'm sorry I'm I'm blurry as 
what people are saying. 

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It's probably probably my 
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having some problems with 
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Same here. 
So same here. 

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I think it's all of Texas. 
We're all like having issues. 

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With our Internet, well, Mercury
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It's going retrograde right now.
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Like right now, today going 
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So we do need to be paying 
paying as much attention to what

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is not in the products as what 
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So for example, if I'm looking 
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know, I'm looking for joint 
support, so I'm looking for like

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collagen and chondroitin. 
It may be some, you know, green 

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lip muscle that would be 
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Those are all wonderful things. 
But look at all the fillers, 

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look at all the inactive 
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certainly don't want to see like
what pulp? 

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I don't want to see a lot of 
corn, rice, oats, flowers. 

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Like why you're paying for that?
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We can also use food in a lot of
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So you're looking for joint 
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I mentioned green lip mussels, 
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mussels. 
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amazing joint support in that. 
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So I don't know if anybody else 
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I just am throwing that out 
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Well before I, before I jump 
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our vets not speak more about 
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to pet cancers? 
I don't know. 

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I think our lymphatic system is 
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as well. 
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we do talk about with detoxing 
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if our drainage pathways aren't 
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than what we originally started 
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cancer protocol is detoxing. 
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we have what are the five 
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We've got the skin, the lung. 
I was, I don't even remember all

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of the five detox pathways off 
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The skin, the lungs, the, I 
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They're they're in urine. 
Right. 

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Would it be urine? 
They're in my head or somewhere.

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The colon, the. 
Let me. 

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I know that for women, really 
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whether whatever mammal a detox 
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and our or mammary glands too. 
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these babies, which is terrible.
Oh, Oh, absolutely. 

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OK, So liver. 
Oh, my Internet is so slow. 

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I can look it up. 
Liver, kidneys, skin, lungs. 

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Yeah. 
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The bladder, well the kidneys is
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telling me yeah, so the GI 
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So all of that and I for me 
personally, we may not see it in

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the same way with our pets, but 
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notice it when like I take my 
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know, around my skin like this 
indentation. 

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I'm like, crap, I need to work 
on my lymphatic. 

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Lymphatic Drainage. 
Yeah, for sure. 

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But yeah, it is like so 
acupuncture, massage maybe 

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depending if your pet has 
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electromagnetic frequency, 
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the type of cancer. 
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That's good. 
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is, you know, we can make if 
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So again, going back to diet, 
our diet is so important. 

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And we talked a little bit about
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sadly there's like this 
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because we do feel so very 
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organic, if we are able to eat 
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But those are actually really, 
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disease state, cancer included, 
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that linchpin, that one thing 
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you've done all these things. 
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that like make or breaks your 
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But fasting is where we left off
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beneficial and not only fasting.
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our bodies in a state of 
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Oh. 
Bronwyn said. 

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OK. 
Liver, skin, gut, kidney, lung, 

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colon. 
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There we go. 2345 of it. 6. 
I thought it was 5 at six. 

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So Doctor Tandra Pope was 
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she likes to pulse between 
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diets. 
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done any extensive studying on 
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some point in time that like 
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ketogenic diet may not be as 
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So pulsing and rotating between 
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one, sometimes higher fat, but 
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diet and then a higher protein 
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Would you mind explaining the 
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high protein please? 
Yeah. 

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So a ketogenic diet is going to 
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in the calorie content of 
protein and fat. 

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There is protein is my brain is 
malfunctioning 4 calories per 

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something I'm trying to remember
the measurement now I sound 

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horrible. 
I should know this off the top 

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of my head. 4 calories per, I 
don't know, maybe gram. 

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I'm going to go with gram and 
then I'm going to look it up and

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feel dumb. 
Of food of protein, 4 calories, 

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9 grams or I'm sorry, 9 calories
for fat. 

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So you're close to like 50% like
however much protein you're 

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eating, you're like 50% roughly 
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eating in fat. 
So it's a pretty high fat diet. 

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High fat, OK. 
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some ketogenic diets will go 
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It can, it really can vary. 

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And this is where we talk about,
you know, individualization is 

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so important and knowing your 
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journaling, knowing your body, 
knowing how you feel, watching 

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your dogs poop, we've talked 
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It's so important to know what's
going on in in their body. 

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Yeah, so but basically the idea 
and you and the reason why it's 

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not so important to stick to, 
like is it a one to one? 

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Is it a one to 1.11 to 1.5? 
Why that isn't as important? 

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That's like a general guideline.
What's actually important is if 

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the body is producing ketones. 
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using. 
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So Bronwyn is saying she so she 
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and she is again talking about 
how we are feeding the dog in 

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front of us and she either does 
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depending on if they can handle 
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something that not all dogs 
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pancreatitis its whole life and,
and, and never been properly 

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treated for it and may not be as
fat adept. 

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And so it is more difficult with
some dogs. 

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But again, you're working with a
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important. 
And you can actually test this 

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through like a simple blood 
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It's similar to like a blood 
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ketone monitor where you do like
a little pin pinprick and get a 

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little bit of blood and test the
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So if you're super, super 
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do this at home. 
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our cells are not producing 
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sugars in the diet, but they're 
producing energy from the fat in

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the diet. 
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where we are, all of us, all of 
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ability to both make energy from
carbs and sugars and fats. 

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And it's actually optimal for 
our bodies to burn energy, burn 

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fuel on fats. 
It's much healthier for us. 

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We have the ability. 
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I think cats are obligate 
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kind of put them in a class of 
themselves on their own. 

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So everything we say for humans 
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little asterisk by it. 
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we may need to optimize this a 
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But that is the important part. 
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a high protein diet, we're going
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certainly carbs. 
We should be less focused on 

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what is the ratio from protein 
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keeping those carbohydrates 
really, really, really, really 

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low and ideally only getting 
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sources. 
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those are the only and, and we 
need to be really, really picky 

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about those low glycemic, 
preferably veggies that we're 

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doing. 
Keeping as much sugar, as much 

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carbohydrate as possible out of 
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to feed the cancer cells. 
Because that's the thing with a 

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cancer cell that some people 
probably understand this. 

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A lot of people probably don't. 
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fact that we all have cancer 
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as we're healthy enough, our 
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that under control. 
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in a healthy cell and a cancer 
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starts out like it. 
It would almost be the same 

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thing, except it doesn't act the
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It it acts like like a zombie 
kind of where it just goes and 

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goes and goes and goes and goes 
and goes and goes. 

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And whereas in a normal cell 
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then it dies off. 
Our body cleans it out of our 

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body once it dies off. 
These cancer cells don't do 

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that. 
So we have to be intentional 

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about killing them if our immune
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doing it itself. 
That's a very like cancer for 

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gummies explanation, but. 
I loved it. 

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I thought it was a fantastic 
explanation. 

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I just tagged Dolce. 
Is it Dolce or Dolce, Dolce 

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legacy, both on everywhere. 
Just yeah, Dolce, because I want

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to say it in Italian. 
Dolce la Dolce Vita. 

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But Bronwyn has a very important
story to share about her dog's 

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experience with cancer and what 
fuels her work today. 

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So I haven't had her on my show 
yet. 

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Bronwyn, we have to do that so I
can learn it from, you know, 

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from you and not just from your 
About us page. 

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Dolce, Dolce. 
OK, It's Dolce, Dolce. 

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OK. 
Thank you for that. 

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OK, so it's not Dolce Vita like 
I was pretending it and I, you 

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know, I think that it's people, 
you know, I think we all know 

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kind of know what cancer is and 
how it functions and we just 

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know we don't want it. 
Like I think that that's pretty 

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much, we don't want it, but we 
don't want to make the lifestyle

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changes that really like keeps 
it at Bay. 

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And the good thing that I said, 
like I always say this and I 

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just interviewed somebody and I 
talked about the same thing when

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we talked about obesity is we 
control what our pets eat. 

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So that makes it a lot easier 
than us fighting ourselves about

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like that, like that cupcake we 
really shouldn't be having or 

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that, you know, that cocktail 
that we don't need. 

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It's really makes it so much 
easier that we're controlling 

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what they can eat because they 
can't open the fridge and help 

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themselves to like, you know, a 
can of tuna or like a bacon 

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sandwich. 
Yeah, so very. 

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True. 
It really is up to us and we 

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have the resources. 
We have people like Jessica, we 

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have people like Bronwyn, we 
have experts that are going to 

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help us create like a toxic 
environment in our pets bodies 

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for cancer, right? 
Like, what we want is for the 

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cancer to feel very unwelcome, 
very, very uncomfortable so that

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it can not continue to grow. 
That is basically the goal that 

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we all know about. 
But like, can you give us some 

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practical ways that you help 
people make the body a little 

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less hospitable? 
So one of the things I like to 

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do, and this is for with or 
without diagnosis, is HTMA 

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testing. 
This is something that you can 

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do from the comfort of your 
home. 

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And one of the great things 
about HTMA testing this is hair 

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tissue. 
Hair tissue mineral analysis 

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testing is that we are looking 
at toxins in the body like heavy

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metals. 
We are looking for nutrient 

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absorption. 
We're looking at different 

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nutrient levels. 
One of which that we need to pay

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particular attention to is 
vitamin DI. 

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Think we've all gotten a huge 
dose of education on vitamin D 

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in the past four or five years 
and how important that is to all

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of our bodies for disease 
prevention. 

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And I say this in conjunction 
with the HTMA testing. 

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You can get just a vitamin D 
test, but I think for the money,

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go ahead and do the HTMA instead
of the single vitamin D testing 

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because you're going to pay 
almost as much for the vitamin D

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test as you would for the HTMA. 
And if somebody wants to reach 

448
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,360
out to me, I absolutely love 
Parsley Pet and would love to 

449
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,320
send you an affiliate link for 
that. 

450
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:22,640
I do use affiliate links, but 
not because like I only use them

451
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,920
for products that I absolutely 
am in love with. 

452
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,320
I'm going to recommend whatever 
is best for your pet, and it 

453
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,120
just so happens if somebody has 
an affiliate like I will send it

454
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,760
to you. 
But yeah, there's no vitamin D 

455
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,080
Then why? 
Anybody should be turned off by 

456
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,000
somebody recommending an 
affiliate link, especially if 

457
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,320
you trust them and they have 
like, you know, certifications 

458
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,720
and stuff. 
That should be something that 

459
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,920
almost is not a deterrent, but 
rather something that appeals to

460
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,960
you because if they were 
recommending it and they're 

461
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,000
putting, you know, they're 
they're really supporting this 

462
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,400
brand and we as creators need to
support ourselves. 

463
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,320
So that is why it is a win win 
for everybody. 

464
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,640
So I remember telling somebody 
in the pet industry that they 

465
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,080
are a creator and that they 
should do more affiliate links 

466
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,520
and they were of the mind that 
they were going to turn people 

467
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,680
off. 
That should never be a turn off 

468
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,280
like in the IT should be just 
part of what you think of as the

469
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,000
general message of the creator. 
Like if you trust them here, 

470
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,400
there, and everywhere, there's 
no reason why you shouldn't 

471
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,920
trust their affiliate link. 
If you don't trust them, and if 

472
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,760
you think that their stuff is a 
little sketchy, then don't use 

473
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,240
the affiliate link. 
But don't ever judge people for 

474
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,040
having affiliate links I think. 
For. 

475
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,200
Me, it's like I want to support 
the creators. 

476
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,640
The creators that I love, I want
to support them because I know 

477
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,120
that there's not a lot of money 
in educating the public for free

478
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:48,920
and so. 
That's yeah. 

479
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,920
Something I try to do to 
support. 

480
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,920
And Bronwyn says the same thing.
She says, Yeah, she's 

481
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,240
notoriously cruel when it comes 
to who she recommends. 

482
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,480
Jessica is as well. 
And it's if they're putting 

483
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,400
their names behind it. 
Even with an affiliate link, you

484
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,640
can trust that this is a pot, a 
positive product for your pet in

485
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,000
your life. 
Yeah. 

486
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:14,280
And Apple the Golden who just 
got a new puppy and I'm trying 

487
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,920
to remember it's Maple 
something. 

488
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,280
Please remind me the new puppy. 
I'm super excited for you. 

489
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,480
Curious if the HTMA test for 
vitamin D is as accurate as a 

490
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,320
blood test? 
So I have talked quite a bit 

491
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,720
with Chelsea Kent, who owns 
Parsley Pet and she is very 

492
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:41,200
confident in the testing, the 
HTMA testing that they do and 

493
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,520
the results that they're getting
and she has a huge database to 

494
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,240
kind of back her up. 
Maple cider, I knew it was Maple

495
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:55,040
something. 
So there are certain, there are 

496
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:01,960
certain people, as Isabel was 
saying in the pet space that I 

497
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,720
trust over and above a lot of 
other people. 

498
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,320
And Chelsea Kent is one of 
those. 

499
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,120
And in fact, she was on. 
Yes, and so does Bronwyn. 

500
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,560
Bronwyn says that she loves her.
In person. 

501
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,640
Bronwyn also loves her. 
So you have two recommendations 

502
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,440
there. 
And then Bronwyn does say do not

503
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,080
wait to make changes to your 
pets lives until there is an 

504
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,240
issue. 
Absolutely. 

505
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,760
Just now. 
And that's thank you for that, 

506
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,400
because that's exactly why we 
are here on Mondays. 

507
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,120
Yeah. 
Because we're all about 

508
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,160
prevention, she and I, Jessica, 
that's one of the things that's 

509
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,800
always bonded us is that we are 
proactive, we are preventive, 

510
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,840
and we are those people that are
trying to make better choices 

511
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,480
every single day. 
Even if we fall flat on our face

512
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,840
while we try, we try. 
And we hope that we bring you 

513
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,480
some, you know, some tidbits 
that can help you do the same. 

514
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,800
Yes. 
So HTML testing is like one of 

515
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,040
the number one things that I 
would want to do, especially if 

516
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,840
I'm talking about prevention. 
But even if we're talking about 

517
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,360
after diagnosis, microbiome 
testing is another one that I 

518
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,960
love because it all happens. 
I mean, we're, we're talking 70 

519
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,160
to 80% of the immune system is 
in the gut. 

520
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,400
We have got to get, I mean, we 
talked about, we talked about 

521
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,920
gut health so much. 
And obviously we want to do as 

522
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,320
much as possible with food and 
feeding fresh food, which we 

523
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,280
have talked about ad nauseam and
we'll continue to do so because 

524
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,560
it's my favorite thing to talk 
about. 

525
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,760
But microbiome testing can allow
us to make adjustments where we 

526
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,480
might otherwise not realize 
adjustments need to be made. 

527
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,800
For example, my dog Kimberly, 
she has been raw fed since the 

528
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,920
day I adopted her almost nine 
years ago. 

529
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,160
And I tested her microbiome and 
it was not balanced because I 

530
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:55,280
needed to make some adjustments.
And so it's OK to get to think 

531
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,000
you're doing everything right 
and get a test and realize you 

532
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,280
haven't been doing everything 
right. 

533
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,880
It's totally fine. 
Like, OK, just make some tweaks.

534
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,840
Don't beat yourself up. 
You don't know what you don't 

535
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,680
know. 
The other thing is omega-3 

536
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:14,840
testing or Omega testing. 
So many of us, of us, our pets 

537
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,080
especially, are going to be 
deficient in Omega threes. 

538
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:26,639
Are are or and or the Omega 6 
that we are ingesting every day 

539
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:32,239
far exceeds our Omega threes. 
The other thing with I will just

540
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,199
kind of put like a little 
asterisk next to any sort of 

541
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,040
omega-3 supplementation because 
not enough people are talking 

542
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,440
about this is when we do 
supplement Omega threes, we also

543
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,320
need to be supplementing vitamin
E Vitamin Omega threes, 

544
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,440
especially at higher doses in 
the body can deplete vitamin E. 

545
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,239
So we need to be supplementing 
vitamin E when we are also 

546
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,400
supplementing Omega threes, 
which is something I would want 

547
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,720
to do for cancer anyway, most 
likely because vitamin E is 

548
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:07,000
going to, again, we would do the
HDMA testing to make sure 

549
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:13,840
because vitamin E is fat 
soluble, but vitamin E is going 

550
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,320
to fight free radicals. 
It's going to fight oxidation in

551
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,320
the body. 
It's going to help a lot with 

552
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,360
just bringing inflammation down 
the body, similarly to Omega 

553
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,760
threes. 
Exercise, like we've already 

554
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,560
mentioned last week and Isabel 
talked about a little bit at the

555
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,760
beginning, exercise grounding, 
being out in nature. 

556
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,760
So the frequency of the earth 
literally changes the frequency 

557
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,960
in our bodies. 
It helps with oxidative damage. 

558
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,680
It fights free radicals. 
We are literally like if you 

559
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,000
have ever had your dog running 
around outside and they come 

560
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000
back inside and they jump in 
there, you're cuddling with them

561
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,120
and you just get this like burst
of like, you don't know what 

562
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,280
that is. 
It's the like ions from them 

563
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,600
actually having been outside and
grounding and they are 

564
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,720
transferring those on to you. 
It's really an incredible thing 

565
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,880
and it's free. 
Ideally we're doing this in and 

566
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,480
on healthy soil that isn't, you 
know, contaminated with all 

567
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,520
kinds of chemicals and 
glyphosate and whatever else. 

568
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,640
Something else that is free is 
being very much aware of this. 

569
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,160
Our bodies circadian rhythm, our
dogs body circadian rhythm, only

570
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,200
eating when the light, when the 
sun is out. 

571
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,880
So we talked about fasting. 
We can use the time the sun is 

572
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,120
out as a feeding window if we 
need somewhere to start. 

573
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,240
That's the only time we should 
be eating. 

574
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,040
That's the only time our dogs 
should be eating. 

575
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,640
And we can shorten that 
certainly because there are 

576
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,400
different fasting windows for 
different things. 

577
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,520
We are and we could talk, we 
could do a whole thing on on 

578
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,360
fasting because there are do's 
and don'ts with fasting and 

579
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,440
that's probably like a whole 
episode in and of itself. 

580
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,840
But just be aware that that is 
actually really beneficial 

581
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,880
because our digestive system 
needs an extensive amount of 

582
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:16,120
time, hours and hours and hours 
to settle down before our body 

583
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,720
can start a process called 
autophagy, which is clearing out

584
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:23,480
all the junk in our body. 
So if we're never giving our 

585
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,000
bodies a chance to do that, 
inflation, inflammation is going

586
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,800
rampant. 
Anyway, what did Bryman say? 

587
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,800
Oh so. 
Bronwyn and then she she says 

588
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,880
first she says I love that I've 
never I love that I've never 

589
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,440
thought about that regarding 
circadian rhythms for dogs and 

590
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,240
honestly, I agree. 
I I eat when the sun's down. 

591
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,280
Should I not be eating when the 
sun's down? 

592
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,760
I'm going to have like the 
senior. 

593
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,200
What is it? 
The early word specials every 

594
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,000
night? 
OK, we. 

595
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,320
Can handle that. 
All right. 

596
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,720
And then Bronwyn says even us as
nutritionists require testing. 

597
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,160
Luna has been with me for four 
years and in February was 

598
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,280
diagnosed with MCT. 
Just because I work with cancer 

599
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,240
doesn't make me immune to it. 
Your DVMS don't have a crystal 

600
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,720
ball to see him to the body. 
Neither do we use the testing as

601
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:18,040
a guideline. 
We use all of the tools 

602
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,840
available to us. 
I love that. 

603
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,360
Yeah, it's so important and 
that's why testing is so 

604
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,400
important and it can be one. 
And just kind of, again, I'm 

605
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,000
going to go off on a tangent 
here for a minute. 

606
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,280
It can be really difficult when 
you have a pet parent. 

607
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,200
So I'm just going to use myself 
as an example when I have a pet 

608
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,720
parent come to me and they're 
like, they've already spent 

609
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,320
hundreds, sometimes thousands of
dollars chasing something with 

610
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,920
veterinarians, with specialist, 
whatever, a lot of times. 

611
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,920
And I'm just going to put this 
out there because I would, I, I,

612
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,960
I both would love and also 
cringe at the idea of talking 

613
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,200
about veterinary nutritionist. 
But I see people that pay 

614
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,120
hundreds and hundreds of dollars
for recipes from people that 

615
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,640
don't work for their dogs. 
And so they have spent hundreds,

616
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,240
thousand, sometimes thousands of
dollars before they ever find 

617
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,560
me. 
And then of course, I have of a 

618
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,600
fee because this is my time and 
energy and effort. 

619
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,040
And then I'm recommending these 
tests and they're like, OK, now 

620
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,800
I got to buy the test too. 
And I know it's hard and I know 

621
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,200
it's difficult and I know 
financially it can be really 

622
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,640
difficult. 
But just like Brian once said, 

623
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,600
like we don't have crystal balls
and you know, to be able to 

624
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,840
really lead you down the right 
path, I need to know certain 

625
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,520
things. 
And it really is going to be 

626
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,400
more beneficial in the long run.
No matter where you're starting 

627
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,240
at, whether you're starting from
a puppy or you are starting at 

628
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:49,360
thousands of dollars in that 
bills and you feel like you've 

629
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:56,280
gotten nowhere. 
Whatever comes next, putting a 

630
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,640
putting time, energy and yes, 
money into. 

631
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,280
Fixing things right now is going
to make everything moving 

632
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,440
forward so much better quality 
of life, quality of health span 

633
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,880
very possibly, very possibly 
less in vet bills moving 

634
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,040
forward. 
So there's so much like it's, it

635
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,000
can be hard. 
And I just want to say like I 

636
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,040
understand and I empathize with 
that because I've been there 

637
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,720
too. 
I have had those many, many 

638
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,760
thousands of dollars vet bills 
in the like, I get it. 

639
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:40,080
I'm not immune to what people 
are going through, but we have 

640
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,640
to have this information to be 
accurate in making suggestions 

641
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,640
moving forward. 
Yeah, and I think that you don't

642
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,240
even have to like, like Bronwyn 
said, you don't wait until you 

643
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,800
get a diagnosis. 
But sometimes the body does give

644
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,640
us like little hints that 
something's gone wrong. 

645
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,000
Allergies are a really good 
example of that where like don't

646
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,920
wait until you know after a 
million doses of some allergy 

647
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:12,440
medication to start working on 
why is your pet showing these 

648
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,160
symptoms. 
Start now. 

649
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,520
Because when you you go ahead 
and you start with the gut 

650
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,440
microbiome testing, you find 
something odd there. 

651
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,280
You work with somebody like 
Jessica, you get that under 

652
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,040
control. 
Now, when you've saved a little 

653
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,040
money, you can go into some kind
of omega-3 testing and see where

654
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,320
that you stand there. 
And then after that, once you 

655
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,920
have that kind of under control,
now you go into the HTML testing

656
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,640
and you see stuff. 
So you don't have to do it all 

657
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,680
at one time. 
If you're proactive, if you wait

658
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,080
for a diagnosis, yeah. 
I mean, you got to throw 

659
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,480
everything at it, right? 
And that's when it gets like 

660
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,040
really scary, really stressful, 
really expensive. 

661
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,600
But when you're when your dog's 
already showing you signs, 

662
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,160
something chronic, anything 
chronic like where it's 

663
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,880
chronically your pets 
chronically throwing up, your 

664
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,880
pets chronically having 
diarrhea, your pets chronically 

665
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,240
licking at themselves, those 
kinds of things are red flags. 

666
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,640
Yes, Bronwyn says. 
Acid reflux, gassy belly, those 

667
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,400
are not normal and are red flags
as she eats her carrot cake in 

668
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,120
the dark. 
But it's true. 

669
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,960
Like we kind of like let things 
go. 

670
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,720
And what we need to remember is 
that once we see signs from our 

671
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,520
pets, usually things are pretty 
much advanced. 

672
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:25,800
So if you start seeing really 
gassy bellies, like to the point

673
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,480
where you can see your pet 
pacing now, this isn't a 

674
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,720
veterinary emergency, right? 
Whereas 5 months ago it may have

675
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,640
just been like, oof, what's that
smell, right? 

676
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,640
So like really being proactive 
is the most important thing 

677
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:43,360
because we have to know that we,
they can't tell us what they're 

678
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,480
feeling. 
So every sign needs to be a 

679
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,280
flag. 
Maybe not a red flag, but like a

680
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,120
yellow flag, right? 
Like something that tells us, 

681
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,200
let's start with one of these 
tests and go from there. 

682
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,560
Yeah. 
And I think again and going back

683
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,560
to food, food can either be, and
I don't know who started this 

684
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,400
it, it's probably goes back many
thousands of years, but food is 

685
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,160
either the best form of medicine
or the slowest form of form of 

686
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,760
poison. 
And so when we think about that,

687
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,720
I, we talk a lot about the base 
diet because that is important. 

688
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:27,640
But whether we are dealing with 
a cancer diagnosis or not, we 

689
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,960
can use things like curcumin, 
like green tea, like mushrooms. 

690
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,880
These are really, really 
wonderful things for reducing 

691
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,800
inflammation in the body, for 
fighting free radicals, 

692
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,840
oxidative stress. 
And then of course, there are 

693
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:49,000
other herbs, you know, getting 
into Chinese medicine or even 

694
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,720
using Western herbs, all of it 
can be beneficial and topics of 

695
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:57,600
their own because they are. 
So yeah, probably Hippocrates. 

696
00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:59,040
That's what I was thinking of 
from. 

697
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:02,160
I think it was Hippocrates. 
I was thinking that too is one 

698
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,000
of those Greeks. 
Yes, yes, one of those. 

699
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,960
Roman Greek. 
Philosophers. 

700
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,960
One of the other things that was
really interesting to me when I 

701
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,520
was listening the other day to 
Doctor Kendra Pope and I think 

702
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,960
we were talking last week a 
little bit about this was that 

703
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:28,720
so many of the cancers that she 
sees, so many of them our GI 

704
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:31,760
cancers. 
And so nutrient absorption is a 

705
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,160
problem and nutrient absorption 
is something that again we 

706
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,240
talked about with the HTMA 
testing, we are doing this 

707
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:43,200
earlier on. 
If we are doing this fairly 

708
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,840
regularly throughout our dogs 
lives, we can catch that 

709
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:55,520
earlier, we can realize there's 
a problem earlier and a lack of 

710
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,400
nutrient absorption is 
indicative of a larger problem 

711
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:05,120
and we can get on that quicker 
because we ideally would never 

712
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,680
we we don't ever want to get to 
the point where we get that 

713
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,240
cancer diagnosis. 
Yeah. 

714
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,240
So I think that's. 
Anne Wigmore. 

715
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,560
It was Anne Wigmore. 
And now we know. 

716
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,040
Thank you. 
For doing that, I probably 

717
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,440
should have supported Jessica in
looking that up, but I was just 

718
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,160
like. 
Listening. 

719
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,600
It's OK, Sorry. 
About that, Jessica, Thank you. 

720
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Bronwyn we. 
Need a We need a Jamie I. 

721
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,760
Have a question? 
We have a question. 

722
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,160
Will you be discussing your 
thoughts on red light therapy? 

723
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:46,640
Ask Sarah Leilani. 
So I actually, I'm going to be 

724
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,520
really honest and say that I 
would, I need to do more 

725
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,440
research into that. 
I know how beneficial it is for 

726
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:57,520
humans and I think it could very
well be beneficial for our pets 

727
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,440
too, but probably not in the 
same ways. 

728
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,280
Because when I think of, you 
know, our dogs and our cats, 

729
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:09,240
they don't even because of all 
of the, the fur on their bodies,

730
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:12,640
they have, for example, they 
have to get vitamin D through 

731
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,880
their diet because they're not, 
they're not able to like be in 

732
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,400
sunlight and, and convert it 
like we can as humans. 

733
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,480
So there's probably, I need to 
do more research on this, but 

734
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,760
there's probably going to be 
some of that going on. 

735
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,600
However, what they're getting in
their eyes could very well be 

736
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,880
beneficial. 
So we talked about circadian 

737
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,400
rhythm and the fact that in our 
homes in general, I'm just as 

738
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,480
bad about this as anybody else. 
My whole house is full of blue 

739
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,760
lights. 
But I would very much love to 

740
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,680
switch out my lights to red 
lights because we shouldn't have

741
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,560
all these blue lights once the 
sun goes down. 

742
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,600
And it absolutely is going to 
affect our pets as well. 

743
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,400
So what they're getting through,
you know, that their retinas 

744
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,600
going into their brain, yeah, 
there probably could be some 

745
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,440
benefits to red light there be 
that way. 

746
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,440
I just don't know how much 
they're going to absorb because 

747
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,440
of their fur. 
I hope that's a good enough 

748
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,560
answer. 
I don't know. 

749
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,040
I like it for my skin. 
I like it for my skin. 

750
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,200
I think it's great. 
So I feel like all of these 

751
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,800
things, they're worth a shot, 
right? 

752
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,440
Like they're worth a shot if 
you're, I don't know where you'd

753
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,360
find it, if you're veterinarians
offering it. 

754
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,680
I remember, you know, just like 
the laser therapy that they use 

755
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,240
for a lot of things for like 
injuries and cysts and tumors 

756
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:38,000
and pain and, and, and 
arthritis, like, you know, those

757
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,720
are a laser and you know, 
somebody started that and found 

758
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:43,920
a use for it. 
So I'm sure we'll see A use for 

759
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,520
these for red light therapy, 
just like we're seeing it so 

760
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,560
much in humans. 
And I love my Cleopatra mask 

761
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,320
that I put on at night and I 
look like a robot and my kids 

762
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,040
love it And I, I, I think it's 
keeping me young and beautiful. 

763
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,400
So I'm here for it. 
I'm here for I'm here for more 

764
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,640
research on red light therapy 
for pets. 

765
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:07,640
Yeah, for sure, Bronwyn said. 
Her husband practices circadian 

766
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,560
rhythms. 
So now she's absolutely going 

767
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,280
down the route. 
Yeah, I think it's. 

768
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,160
OK, can you explain to me what 
practicing circadian rhythms 

769
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,280
means? 
Yeah, I'm. 

770
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,520
I need to know what that means, 
What what is? 

771
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,120
I think I don't. 
We all practice them without I 

772
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,880
mean. 
Well, I think I think the idea, 

773
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,600
and Brian can certainly chime in
on what her husband does, but I 

774
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,680
think the idea is that we are to
wait. 

775
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,160
We are to wake with the sun and 
set with the sun. 

776
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,800
That's kind of how we are all 
designed. 

777
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,280
We're not, you know, there are 
nocturnal animals out there, 

778
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:49,000
certainly. 
But generally speaking, when 

779
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,440
we're talking about humans and 
dogs and cats, like we are 

780
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,880
designed to be up with the sun 
and down with the sun and when 

781
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,840
we are out of sync with nature. 
Doctor Kelly Means talks about 

782
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,640
this so much. 
I'm actually really excited to 

783
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,320
dive into her book. 
Yes. 

784
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,640
And watching that is one of the 
things that you are supposed to 

785
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,560
do first thing in the morning 
before you do anything else is 

786
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,440
get sunlight in your eyes. 
And watching the sun go down can

787
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,640
actually change your metabolism.
If I'm if I remember. 

788
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:31,640
That correctly, those who are 
not on Facebook, Bronwyn says he

789
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,400
gets up first thing in the 
morning to see the sunrise. 

790
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,600
Then he watches the sun go down.
Does that mean he goes to sleep 

791
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,920
or does he just watch it and 
then continues about his 

792
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,440
evening? 
I need to know more about this 

793
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,120
because at least right now, like
the sun comes up in El Paso like

794
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,120
6:00 AM, but then it's down by 
6. 

795
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,640
So does that mean I'm I'm going 
to be in bed by 6 because my 

796
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,640
kids won't let it? 
I'd be super down for that, but 

797
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,840
my kids are going to be like 
Nah. 

798
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,640
So I think, I think ideally 
you're going to turn on red 

799
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,560
lights instead of blue lights 
for anything you need after the 

800
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,320
sun goes down, yes. 
So for however long you need to 

801
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,640
stay up. 
But I am right there with 

802
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,880
Bronwyn. 
It doesn't fit me either. 

803
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,880
And one of the things that I 
learned recently about myself is

804
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,280
that I am, I believe I am an 
empath. 

805
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:30,400
I am a very empathetic person. 
I don't even know how to gauge 

806
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,640
my own emotions sometimes. 
Like I'm that empathetic. 

807
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:42,760
And when everyone else goes to 
sleep, it's like that's when I 

808
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,160
feel most productive because I 
can actually. 

809
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,520
It's like the whole world's, 
like during the day, the whole 

810
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,240
world is going on and on and on 
and I can't focus and I can't. 

811
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,560
And so I, I've always been a 
night owl and I have never 

812
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,680
really thought about why even 
like trying to work when I work 

813
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,960
during the day, I get stuff 
done, but I'm like constantly 

814
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,080
going from here and here and 
here and here and here and I'm 

815
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,240
like, am I ADHD? 
I don't know. 

816
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,360
But then once the sun goes down,
once people are calm, once the 

817
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:18,160
whole world isn't in a freaking,
you know, cyclone, I feel like I

818
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,960
can focus so much and I haven't 
done anything differently, but 

819
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,760
the sun has gone down and I can 
focus so much and I can get so 

820
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,160
much more done. 
And I think that's why. 

821
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,720
Why? 
I hear that in my my house for 

822
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:31,920
sure. 
Like the pets that like the pets

823
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,400
are really good. 
They're the first ones to be 

824
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,480
ready to go to bed. 
Like half the time I can't get 

825
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,800
them I'm in bed by 8 too, 
Bronwyn just because my kids 

826
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,440
force me to be otherwise they 
won't go to sleep because they 

827
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,280
have FOMO. 
So I basically just go to sleep 

828
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,960
and I work better and the pets 
are ready to go by 8. 

829
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Like I can't even get them out 
to the go potty. 

830
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,080
Like they don't want to have 
anything to do with the outdoors

831
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,280
after a certain time. 
Like for them, they really do 

832
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,520
practice that circadian rhythm 
where they're like the SAT MO. 

833
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,440
The newest edition is ready to 
go at 6:30 every morning and you

834
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,560
know, at 7 is probably the 
latest I can get him to go out. 

835
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,840
Like he will not not go out. 
He doesn't want to, especially 

836
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,240
if it's dark and a little wet 
out there, he doesn't want it. 

837
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,200
And when I write I at night it 
really does feel like I am more 

838
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,200
creative and more like the words
come easier to me. 

839
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,600
Yeah. 
So yeah, I. 

840
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,360
Hear, I understand that. 
I understand that. 

841
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:29,440
So what is red lights in the 
home is a is is a question you 

842
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,800
can actually switch out because 
pretty much everything in our 

843
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,600
homes right now is blue light, 
including that, like coming off 

844
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,400
of your devices, your TV's, 
everything. 

845
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,600
So you can actually switch out 
light bulbs to red light light 

846
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,040
bulbs and Instagram is like, oh,
there you go. 

847
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,720
So you can switch those out on 
your devices. 

848
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,440
There are generally settings and
you can just Google this or ask 

849
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,080
ChatGPT how to change this on 
your specific device. 

850
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:04,240
You can set different prompts to
switch your screen to a red 

851
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:08,480
light instead of a blue light. 
So like on my phone, I hit the 

852
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,520
power button three times and 
then I get a prompt and I can 

853
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,480
change the color filter and then
my screen goes red. 

854
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,840
So I'll do that at night 
sometimes when I remember. 

855
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,600
But like just turn the TV off 
basically. 

856
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,080
Don't watch the TV at least a 
couple of hours before going to 

857
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:34,560
bed is generally the consensus. 
But you know, it's, it's the 

858
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,880
world we live in. 
Read a book. 

859
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,280
Is is I think what what most 
people say. 

860
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:43,800
Yeah, read a book. 
By candlelight. 

861
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:49,000
Journal, Journal by candlelight.
Like get your Bridgeton on. 

862
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,280
I don't know. 
I don't know, like, literally, 

863
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,920
not figuratively. 
Yeah. 

864
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,560
Don't watch Bridgerton. 
Just, like, pretend you live in 

865
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,960
Bridgerton Times and you're like
journaling and you're, you know,

866
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,960
what is it sitting in the 
reading room? 

867
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,000
In the sitting room. 
How cute would that be? 

868
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,240
How cute. 
I mean, this is what I dream of 

869
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,440
my kids. 
Mike Bronwyn goes to sleep 

870
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,240
listening to Alien movies. 
So she's out of this 

871
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:19,120
conversation. 
Yeah. 

872
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,880
I mean, I listen to my kid chat 
the whole night until I finally 

873
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,000
fell asleep. 
And I actually work at night a 

874
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,640
lot. 
So I have blue light special at 

875
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,440
my house every night. 
So yeah, I got it. 

876
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,480
Maybe check my device and see if
my computer will do that 

877
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,200
automatically so that I don't 
forget. 

878
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,160
But yeah, I mean, it's really, 
it's hard because everything is 

879
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,480
set up, like we said about the 
environment. 

880
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,960
We'll wrap up I guess now, but 
everything in our environment is

881
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,360
kind of set up, set up to 
challenge these healthy 

882
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,160
behaviors. 
It is you're. 

883
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,400
Connected constantly, EMS 
everywhere. 

884
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,200
Like, yeah, I was going to say, 
I think we brought that up last 

885
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,440
week because ideally we would 
turn our Wi-Fi off when we're 

886
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:07,000
not using it. 
But, and even one of the things 

887
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,200
that I remember, I think this 
might have been Doctor Odette 

888
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,160
Souter, like put your wherever 
your pet beds are, like make 

889
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,360
sure they're not close to an 
outlet. 

890
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,080
And like, so there's all kinds 
of different, like we can really

891
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,760
get nitty gritty, but there's 
already so much to work with 

892
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,040
with what we've talked about. 
Well, I have a pet bed. 

893
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,400
No, but that's really good 
because I have a pet bed right 

894
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,880
next to an outlet right now for 
the little one, The little crazy

895
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,400
one, and I'm going to move it 
immediately. 

896
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,120
And like, so that's a super easy
thing to do. 

897
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,520
And that's those are the kinds 
of things I like because those 

898
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,800
little things add up to. 
And there's no, it's not like 

899
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,880
you're spending money. 
You're just moving something or 

900
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,840
you're just turning off your 
Wi-Fi or you're, you know, 

901
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,480
feeding an hour earlier so that 
you're doing it with the sun, 

902
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,800
whatever it is. 
Like these little things make a 

903
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,520
big difference. 
So I hope that you guys, I hope 

904
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,680
you guys have some takeaways 
between last week and this week.

905
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,840
Next week we are going to be 
live. 

906
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,680
We haven't decided on a topic 
yet. 

907
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,160
If you have any recommendations,
please let us know. 

908
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,280
If you have any questions, 
comments, please comment. 

909
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,000
We'll still see this after we 
wrap up here. 

910
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,040
And go move your bed, your pet 
beds away from outlets and feed 

911
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,040
the best food you can afford. 
And have a wonderful 

912
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,520
Thanksgiving. 
Yes, you too, have a wonderful 

913
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:31,080
Thanksgiving and don't, I don't 
know, don't go crazy on Black 

914
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,800
Friday. 
I don't know. 

915
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:32,680
Should we sit? 
I don't know. 

916
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,320
Be very mindful, real. 
Quick, real quick. 

917
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,440
So next Monday is actually Cyber
Monday. 

918
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,320
Yeah, yeah. 
So we should talk about what we 

919
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,400
would buy if we had $100 or 
$200, what we would buy. 

920
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,480
Gracious, wouldn't that? 
Be Oh my gracious, that would be

921
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,720
so difficult, OK. 
OK, so. 

922
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,000
That's very. 
Tough. 

923
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,280
Well, let's think of a budget 
and we'll talk about what we 

924
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,720
would buy if we had this money 
to just drop. 

925
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,720
What would be about first and 
why and which brand we would get

926
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:09,960
because obviously that's an 
important part of it. 

927
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,680
And if you guys have any like 
specific products you're in the 

928
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,560
market for, let us know. 
Maybe we can do a little 

929
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,160
research with you because that 
would be fun to do on, you know,

930
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,200
Cyber Monday. 
Do not spend all your money on 

931
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,200
nonsense. 
Don't fall for the marketing 

932
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,200
traps. 
Research the products you buy 

933
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,040
before you buy them. 0500 
dollars, 500 says $500. 

934
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,680
I think that's fair. 
I think that's perfect. 

935
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,960
I might have a hard time 
spending $500 because I don't 

936
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,200
feel like I need any pet 
products now, but they have to 

937
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,160
be pet products and it's 
$500.00. 

938
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,840
So I might just stock up on some
food. 

939
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,360
But that's that's a cop out. 
So we gotta, we can't, we have 

940
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,720
to choose at least three 
products. 

941
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:53,960
OK, cuz $500 doesn't go far. 
I'm like only $500 and. 

942
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,120
Isabel's like if I were to say 
like 500 five, $100.00 of food, 

943
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,760
$500.00 of food, then it's like,
OK, that's a cop out, but $500 

944
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,680
something that you know you 
could use right now that you 

945
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,720
need exactly food. 
That's exactly what I would 

946
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:13,640
spend $500 on if I had. 
Well, I was, I just won a $250 

947
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,320
shopping spree at only Natural 
Pets only location in Boulder, 

948
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,480
Co And I went in and was like, I
need a dog and I need a food 

949
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,320
that's good for cats and dogs. 
Freeze dried raw lead me and 

950
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,400
they had like two options and I 
bought one of them $250 worth. 

951
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,320
So I mean, yeah, I got them 
already did this challenge. 

952
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,400
But this time I'm going to do it
with like research and like what

953
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,040
I need. 
And it could be pet products, it

954
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,680
could be of any sort, it could 
be supplements, it could be 

955
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,200
accessories. 
I already know what I'm, I 

956
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,440
already know. 
I already know. 

957
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,080
I already know a couple for my 
cat and I'm going to run out of 

958
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,880
money quick. 
I'm like, how? 

959
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,240
How am I going to stick to $500?
Shout out to my friend Aaron at 

960
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,840
Wildcat, because while I just 
interviewed Wildcat, actually 

961
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,800
that's probably where I'm going 
to spend some money in this 

962
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:08,360
virtual pretend shopping spree. 
Wildcat founder Aaron is 

963
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,960
adorable. 
I met her at the CFA Expo in 

964
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,840
Cleveland. 
She was my guest for this week, 

965
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,240
so stay tuned. 
That drops tomorrow morning on 

966
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,800
YouTube. 
It is a Thanksgiving specific 

967
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,920
episode, but we talked talk 
about cats, we talk about our 

968
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,760
love of cats, we talk about 
rebranding cats. 

969
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,800
We talk about people who say 
they hate cats, all of that. 

970
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,640
So if you're a cat lover, please
check that out on your Who's on 

971
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:38,240
Your Show this week. 
Brad, Clint Thorne from Steve's 

972
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,840
Real Food is going to be on 
tomorrow. 

973
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,160
We talked about the history of 
Steve's Real Food and why 

974
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,480
nutrition is so important, How 
they were like the first, I 

975
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,640
think, commercially available 
raw food, no synthetics. 

976
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,760
They use raw goat's milk and all
of their food formulations, 

977
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,520
which I love. 
Yeah, yeah. 

978
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,160
Do you know why? 
Do you know why I'm reacting? 

979
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,680
No, that's. 
The food I spent 200. 

980
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:15,480
That's the. 
Food I spent $250 on full 

981
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,520
circle. 
That's the food I bought. 

982
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,040
I have a a box full of bags of 
it. 

983
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,080
It's yes, it's such great food. 
I'm so excited to try it with my

984
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,040
pets. 
They have not had it yet because

985
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,280
I have to do a little unboxing 
as a thank you to blog pause and

986
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,120
to only natural pet. 
But yes, that's the food that I 

987
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,800
got. 
So I can't wait to watch this 

988
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,000
episode. 
Yes, I am. 

989
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,760
I'm really excited for it. 
I mean, I'm excited for a lot of

990
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,480
episodes. 
But if you're curious about that

991
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,000
HTMA testing we talked about 
earlier, last week's episode was

992
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,680
with Chelsea Kent and we did 
talk about it. 

993
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,920
So go check that out too. 
Yeah. 

994
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:56,720
Remember that we both have 
independent podcast covered in 

995
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,400
pet hair, The Pet Parenting 
Reset. 

996
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,680
You can find us on any of the 
podcasting platforms you love. 

997
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:07,680
Make sure you rate US, give us a
thumbs up on YouTube and give us

998
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,880
some love on social media and 
follow and review us on the 

999
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,040
podcasting platforms. 
That really does help your 

1000
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,520
creators, as does using their 
affiliate links, which I think 

1001
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,400
Jessica will put in the 
comments. 

1002
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:25,280
I can do that. 
Well, I'll put it in my stories 

1003
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,040
because you can't click at the 
comments on it. 

1004
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,920
Studio. 
Yeah, well, you can on Facebook.

1005
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,240
Put it on Facebook and YouTube, 
or at least put it on this chat 

1006
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,240
right here. 
Yeah, I can do that. 

1007
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,120
Yeah. 
Before we before we log off. 

1008
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,080
So, yeah, guys, have a wonderful
Thanksgiving. 

1009
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,280
Don't overtreat your pets. 
Avoid the raw doughs and the 

1010
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,200
coffees and the alcoholic 
beverages. 

1011
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,560
If you have guests coming over, 
make sure they don't put their 

1012
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,600
purses with a xylitol gum on the
floor. 

1013
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,840
You know, the usual stuff that 
can get your pet into trouble. 

1014
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,120
No cooked bones, blah, blah, 
blah, blah, blah. 

1015
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,400
Nobody wants to end up at the 
emergency vet this week. 

1016
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,480
And we did do something about 
this topic about Thanksgiving 

1017
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,760
foods last year. 
So check out the Pet Parenting 

1018
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:16,360
Resets feed so that you can 
check out one of those 

1019
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,680
conversations that we had last 
year on this time about foods 

1020
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,000
you can and cannot feed to your 
pets around the holidays. 

1021
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:29,640
And the Parsley Pet link is in 
the YouTube comments and we'll 

1022
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,960
add it to Facebook. 
Yeah, I'll go into Facebook. 

1023
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,400
You're going to make me go into 
Facebook. 

1024
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,240
I'm done. 
Once we end the screen, you'll 

1025
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:37,240
see it. 
I, we. 

1026
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,840
Yeah, we can always add it to 
Facebook later. 

1027
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,400
Well, thank you guys again. 
Have a wonderful evening. 

1028
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,240
Thank you, Bronwyn for 
participating in. 

1029
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:51,000
Thank you, Oh my gosh, so much. 
I appreciate you so much. 

1030
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:56,080
She's so valuable and full of 
information and so thankful for 

1031
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,960
her and. 
I'm going to have her on my show

1032
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,760
next year. 
I, I can, I promise. 

1033
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,680
Yes, we're thankful for you 
guys. 

1034
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,760
I'm thankful for you, Jessica. 
Oh, I'm thankful for you. 

1035
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:05,840
I live. 
Here is here. 

1036
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,240
To say hi. 
Oh, hi, Kiera. 

1037
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,880
She's gone. 
She's like, I keep hearing my 

1038
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,360
name and I've heard something 
about Steve's girl. 13 and. 1/2 

1039
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,280
What's? 
That she heard something about 

1040
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,880
Steve's real food. 
Oh yes, she's like, I heard 

1041
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,200
food. 
Foods that they can and cannot 

1042
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,120
eat. 
She's like Turkey. 

1043
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,040
Tell me more about Turkey. 
Tell me she wants. 

1044
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,240
To go for a walk, that's really 
what's happening. 

1045
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,800
She wants to go for a walk. 
It's 4:00. 

1046
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,000
That's when we walk. 
So bye everybody.