1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,440 There is something fundamentally missing from the way we are 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,680 raising pets today. And this is something that I 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,000 have been exploring with various guests over the past few months. 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:19,880 And it's been a very long time since I had Doctor Jeff Feinman 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,200 on the Pet Parenting Reset podcast and he recently came 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,120 back on to do an episode for Pet Health Junkies. 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:34,560 And I promise you, I do not put every Pet Health Junkies episode 8 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,880 up on the Pet Parenting Reset. I don't do it. 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:44,520 I really truly take the ones that are like, wow, once we got 10 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,520 done recording, I was like, you know what? 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,480 This is something that I want more people to hear. 12 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,880 And this episode with Jeff Feinman is one of those episodes 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:06,200 because we are, we have lost sight of the fundamentals. 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:13,400 And so many times people think diet, diet, diet, diet, diet. 15 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:20,800 And yes, that is very true. But there are things alongside 16 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,240 diet that we aren't thinking about that we're missing. 17 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,160 We've touched on some of them when I had City and on talking 18 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,280 about clean water, when I had Jackie, on talking about light 19 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,600 therapy, and we're going to continue exploring this topic. 20 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,120 But Doctor Jeff Feinman just put out a new book, which he will be 21 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,040 talking about in this episode. And I bought the book because I 22 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:54,280 am so excited to actually dig into these fundamentals that I 23 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,040 truly think we're missing. It's really easy to get on here 24 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,960 and talk about this food or that food and this supplement or that 25 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,040 supplement, but what about the things that are actually 26 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:11,840 bringing us back to nature now? Yeah, sometimes our situations 27 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,040 and circumstances are not allowing us to do that to the 28 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,840 degree we wish we could. Somebody living in a high rise, 29 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:26,240 for example. But there are other ways. 30 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,840 Sometimes we might have to spend money to to get back those 31 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:36,080 things in our lives when when our lives are not including 32 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,800 them. For many of us, those things are 33 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,280 free. For many of us, they are not 34 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,520 like clean water. For most of us, clean water is 35 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,080 not free, which is a shame, but it is something that we have to 36 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,080 think about. And so I think cutting through a 37 00:02:54,080 --> 00:03:00,120 lot of the noise with this supplement and that food and 38 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,320 this and that and blah, blah, blah, and let me buy this and 39 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,800 let me buy that. How about we really take it back 40 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,760 to basics. And that's kind of what this 41 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,640 episode is with Doctor Jeff Feinman, which is why I decided 42 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,400 to pull it over onto the pet Parenting Reset. 43 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,920 So I'm just going to go ahead and let you listen because I 44 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:25,280 really think this is a conversation that we need to be 45 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:34,760 having more often. Welcome to the Pet Parenting 46 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,360 Reset podcast. If you're new here, my name is 47 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Jess and this is a space where we talk about all things health, 48 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,560 span, and quality of life for your pets and you too. 49 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,800 I'm so excited that you're here. Let's dive in. 50 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Welcome back, pet Health junkies. 51 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,800 First of all, let me welcome Pam and Janet with us today. 52 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,160 Thank you for taking your time to come on and record this 53 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,120 podcast today, which is going to be a really, really good one. 54 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,840 I actually had the pleasure of interviewing Doctor Jeff Fineman 55 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,880 on the Pet Parenting Reset a while back and we have him back 56 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:22,960 today to talk about all things holistic pet health and a new 57 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,000 book that he has coming out. And welcome to Pet Health 58 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,320 Junkies. Dr. Feinman, how are you doing 59 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:34,400 today? I'm doing the best I can do 60 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,440 today right now. So I'm I'm doing great. 61 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:45,360 Yeah, no, I understand that. So I'm we have a ton of 62 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,080 questions that we could get to today. 63 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,960 I know we're not going to get to all of them today. 64 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,280 And I want to make sure that Pam and Janet have plenty of time to 65 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:55,560 ask any of the questions that they have set aside for you. 66 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,440 I would just like to start out by saying thank you for all of 67 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,440 the education, all of the teaching that you have been 68 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,120 doing over the last, I don't even know how many years. 69 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:14,200 It is so very well appreciated and of anyone that I have had 70 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,840 the pleasure of meeting. If if if anyone actually 71 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:21,640 deserves the title holistic, it would be you. 72 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,680 Thank you. So let's just start out really 73 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,040 quickly, if you don't mind catching people up. 74 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,960 You have a book. Yeah, that's. 75 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,720 Nice. Path to Pet Wellness. 76 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,080 And that is something I was actually just speaking to 77 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,000 somebody right before this recording and talking about how 78 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,640 we have somehow gotten into this place where we have a lot of 79 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:54,440 people finding the alternative side of allopathic veterinary 80 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,240 medicine, but that paradigm shift isn't happening. 81 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,880 So they're still looking at symptoms and asking instead of 82 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,920 what pharmaceutical can I give my pet for the symptom? 83 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,880 They're saying, what can I, what holistic supplement can I give 84 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,960 my pet for this symptom? And that's where the I needed 85 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,960 that paradigm shift isn't happening. 86 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,280 Like, yes, we're very grateful that you're here, that you're 87 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:24,080 looking at alternatives to allopathic medicine, but we 88 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,160 still need to to be educating people on that paradigm shift. 89 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,520 And that, I think that's one of the things that you were really, 90 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,080 really trying to do. That is thank you so much just 91 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,560 for noticing, because we've actually redesigned holistic 92 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,000 actions and all the year doing what you just said. 93 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,960 We spent almost a decade now giving lots of information, 94 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:52,240 webinars, all those unlimited resources that we have that that 95 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,960 are all framed based on lens of path to path Wellness. 96 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,200 But there's more. And what's more is what you just 97 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,120 said is helping make that part on shift and that, you know, 98 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,680 part on shift. I mean there's a reason why the 99 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,960 book is divided into 3 sections and one of them is making a wise 100 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,880 decision and the 1st 2 of what you need to know to make that 101 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:23,120 wise decision. There, what do you need to know 102 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,080 to make that shift? That's it. 103 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,880 It's, I think one of the questions that we had provided 104 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:34,680 was about the invitation for pet parents to to look at symptoms 105 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:40,280 and diseases differently. And I see that in our retail 106 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,880 store here, I see the shift happening more and more, which 107 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,840 is so encouraging. And I, I call it an awakening. 108 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,560 I had a beautiful conversation yesterday with a woman, a woman 109 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,560 who only one in her family, she was coming in for help with her 110 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,240 three grand dogs who are itching out of control. 111 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,600 And here in Texas and Central Texas, we have oak pollen 112 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:17,360 everywhere and mold as well. And I was proud of her. 113 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,640 And I actually just gave her, you know, praise and gratitude 114 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,200 for coming in instead of running to, you know, her veterinarian, 115 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:33,440 which around here finding a holistic vet is almost 116 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,919 impossible. There are many online. 117 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:41,159 We do have some integrative and some very skilled veterinarians 118 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:43,919 in traditional medicine. And we have some that are open 119 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:47,760 minded. And so I think kind of where it 120 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:53,800 parallel, the parallel that I'm leading to is information is 121 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:57,720 it's powerful. And if you, you know, books like 122 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,760 yours, you get it into the right hands. 123 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:04,040 And then they can take that knowledge, they can take the 124 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,280 courage to talk with their veterinarian. 125 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,960 And we encourage ours here to seek out certain veterinarians 126 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,440 that are more open minded to the research that the pet parent 127 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,280 actually brings to the appointment. 128 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,160 So if they end up going into the vet clinic, in this case, we 129 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,320 were able to talk to her about very serious things and she left 130 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,840 a happy woman not having to go the route of antibiotics and 131 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,920 medicated topicals and things that we know are going to 132 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:41,760 destroy, you know, the largest, you know, Biome that the pet has 133 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,320 their skin in addition their gut Biome. 134 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:47,600 And then we have a whole other opportunity for a whole other 135 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,160 host of things to come in some. And I think that again, going 136 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,360 back to the question, you're inviting pet parents to change 137 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:01,160 how they look at symptoms, how they look at diseases and what, 138 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,640 how would you explain the course shift that you're wanting them 139 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,560 to start making and how how would you encourage them to do 140 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:13,200 that? Well, first of all, you've said 141 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,720 about a bazillion things we could dive deeper into and I 142 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,880 would love to start with what you told you or your customer 143 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,800 because it is an awakening. And I mean, I'm going to let you 144 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,000 guys in on a little secret and that is that was the intent 145 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,280 behind the book. And in fact, I have a wiki, 146 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:37,400 observatory wiki article about how this approach bringing this 147 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,840 awakening part. I will be happy to share that 148 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,760 link. But you can also just read the 149 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:48,760 book, and that's even better. First thing I say in the book is 150 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,640 that our pets are giving us an SOS. 151 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,960 The first step is recognizing that there's an SOS coming from 152 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,280 your animals. What did I mean by an SOS of 153 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,920 symptoms? So what? 154 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,640 You know, I'm a molecule biologist by traitor, spent a 155 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:12,400 decade for more actually just doing research and conventional 156 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,120 vet Med and what can biology and whatnot. 157 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,080 So it all still comes back to me. 158 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,400 What's what are the souls doing? What are they saying? 159 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,600 How is the body responding? What do symptoms really mean? 160 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,240 Now? What is the physiologic trigger 161 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,160 for the symptom? But why wasn't even a 162 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,360 physiologic trigger there in the 1st place? 163 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,600 And the answer is the mitochondria. 164 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,680 I said mitochondria, and this is the mitochondria theory goes 165 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:49,600 along with the polyphagal theory because there are a lot of 166 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,880 compliments. Basically, mitochondria are the 167 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,920 powerhouses in the body. They generate the energy that 168 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,960 allows this is level by the way, that that veterinarians can 169 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,240 understand because it's bigger than the final force. 170 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,240 Life force is bigger than mitochondria. 171 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,760 But at the mitochondrial level, you know, Janet, you can 172 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,840 basically explain that they're itching because of mitochondria 173 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,440 are not happy. And how do you make them happy 174 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,760 with all the things that we're going to talk about because 175 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:26,240 those symptoms are a result of the mitochondrial and happiness. 176 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,400 You have no energy in the car theft, no gas in the car. 177 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:35,320 You're not going to go anywhere. You're not going to function at 178 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,920 you have, you know, diluted gas. You're going to knock if you're 179 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,840 yeah. So basically, and that's why it 180 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,040 all comes back to food and lifestyle and all that because 181 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,400 built up our energy and a mitochondrial power. 182 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:57,200 So I would say the answer to how you and catch it or talk to 183 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:03,760 people day-to-day is just by bringing them back into the now 184 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,440 of what that symptom really means, which is that there's an 185 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,520 energy and or mitochondrial imbalance. 186 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:21,280 That energy portion is. So I think I misunderstood is 187 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,920 the first word that comes to mind. 188 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,600 I think mainly because kind of something that you started to 189 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,040 say before I hit the record button was that we have known 190 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,800 for thousands of years what to do. 191 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,720 But somewhere along the way, the idea of energy, the idea of 192 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,760 frequency, the idea of even the connection that we should have 193 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:50,280 with nature has been kind of made to feel other and woo woo 194 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,400 and mystical and even demonic at time. 195 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,480 Like if you go through the history of it. 196 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,320 And I think it's just so misunderstood. 197 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,760 It's probably the best word that I that I have for it. 198 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,200 Pam is very familiar with the energy of it all. 199 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,440 I don't know if you have any questions for Doctor Feynman 200 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,080 about that part of it. I know that, you know, the main 201 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,400 difference between a holistic vet and a condition conventional 202 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,720 that is finding addressing the root cause. 203 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,520 And I know Doctor Feynman is very passionate about that part 204 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,840 of symptoms because we can, we can look at symptoms like you 205 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,960 said. But the question I always ask 206 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,520 is, but why do they have the symptoms? 207 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,800 And what's the cause behind the symptom? 208 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,720 Why is the mitochondria not, why is the immune system, you know, 209 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,720 overacting and reacting in a, in a, it's out of balance. 210 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,920 Something is out of balance. So we have to peel the layers 211 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,480 back and go why? And it's not as hard as people 212 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,720 think when you can start to identify like the most common 213 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,800 triggers or root causes of things that make things go off 214 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,640 the rails. It's not that hard. 215 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,000 You don't have to be a rocket scientist to go figure out that 216 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,480 certain things are just not good for the body and they will 217 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,280 disrupt the vital force. They will disrupt balance and 218 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,160 the way the body operates. Maybe you could speak to that a 219 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:20,400 little bit more. Just that you use the word 220 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,960 trigger and cause pretty much interchangeably. 221 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,000 And you're right, you were saying it, but it it sounds like 222 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,760 they're the same, but are not the cause. 223 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,240 The root cause of mitochondrial was really astute. 224 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Notice that, you know, wait a minute, mitochondrial function 225 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,640 is not really the root cause. The root cause is the energetic 226 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,160 fluctuations that we don't recognize, you know, in the 227 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:53,200 little Prince support that what's essential is invisible to 228 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,200 the that we're talking about. As far as the root cause. 229 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:02,000 The root cause is what is essential is that energy that's 230 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,680 in every air molecule all around us. 231 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,680 And you know, you know, as an energy practitioner even or I'm 232 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,840 we know from thousands of years of Qigong, all we're doing is 233 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,960 we're trying to align with the energy flow all around us. 234 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:25,680 What has happened, Pam, is that the more we get into the weeds, 235 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,920 the molecular weeds about this mechanism and you know, this 236 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,960 drug will interfere with this mechanism. 237 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:39,280 The more we do that, the more we get misaligned and real learning 238 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,760 is the way of what what you said, Jess, is the way of the 239 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,520 Indigenous people. All the indigenous people around 240 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,600 the world, they all are better aligned because they were kind 241 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,320 of the connection, spirit, full life force all around us. 242 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:04,720 That life force is a real thing and it has real and we can 243 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:10,240 employ it so easily with our animals feel the the energy of 244 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,480 love is that love that we share is just incredible. 245 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,200 I'm 3 some it's a few minutes late today as I was outside 246 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,560 playing with Maya, just running around. 247 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,920 And that connection is so good for them and for us. 248 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,720 So you know, when we talk about energy, it's really simple. 249 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,400 Really like you said, it's one simple thing and that is your 250 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,080 root cause. That energy imbalance, that lack 251 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,560 of alignment we can call alignment with the universe, 252 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,560 alignment with the workings of Mother Nature. 253 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,600 The greatest doctor there ever was. 254 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,520 Doctor Mother Nature's galpoo culture. 255 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:52,040 Yeah. So what we're really all about 256 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:58,200 here, I think is how do we fix what we've gotten that the 257 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,360 method we've gotten ourselves into this time? 258 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,440 Yeah, yeah. Is this a good time to talk 259 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,200 about the Happiness Protocol and BEAM? 260 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,640 And actually is the perfect time because that's what they do. 261 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,680 They'll do. Realign beam is a biomarker. 262 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,560 It's actually something we're trying to get into the 263 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,920 veterinary curriculum. But behavior, energy, appetite, 264 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:29,720 and mood just happened to be the four observable things that will 265 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,720 tell you that your pet is out of balance. 266 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,080 And you will know by observing being. 267 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:43,040 You'll know before the vet can see anything on or X-rays or we 268 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,480 just know when they're off. And the way we know is through 269 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,080 the beam, the behavior or maybe their eyes are a little glazed 270 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,040 over. Maybe like my cat did. 271 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,080 The reason I rushed to doctor with my cat, she did something. 272 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,160 She hid. She had never hid before in her 273 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,720 life. I knew that was that, you know, 274 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:06,480 her body was telling me it was time to time for us to plot 275 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,320 won't stop. So, yeah, so that beam is a 276 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:17,160 biomarker. But beam, let's talk about I 277 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,320 just spoke with Debbie in Bermuda a little while ago and 278 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:27,040 scuppers beam dropped to A7 whereas it had been a nine out 279 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,760 of 10. Sorry, it's one to 10 where 1 is 280 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,360 really not so good in 10 minutes at better 9. 281 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:39,000 The dog lives in Bermuda. Whims runs around happy all the 282 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,920 time, has a great lifestyle, but he developed the disease and 283 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:48,760 it's on a bunch of drugs which he started giving a Theo 284 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,640 energetic homeopathic medicine. The being started rising. 285 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,320 The blood count started stabilizing, then she stopped it 286 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,120 and his beam of nine dropped back down to a beam of seven. 287 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,800 So our conversation today is how do we get that beam of seven 288 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,320 back up and then begin to wean the drugs a little bit mindfully 289 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,840 wean the drugs. So the happiness protocol is 3 290 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,720 steps one. And again, it's all about 291 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,920 awakening and consciousness staying alert and knowing what 292 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,520 what's around you. But number one, what does your 293 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,920 pet love the most? Did they love the most 294 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,200 throughout life? Might be a food that might be 295 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:35,040 playing, might be just petting and purring #2 do more of that. 296 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,560 What if you're doing because we're all, you know, petting and 297 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,360 playing and why? But double it if if your pet is 298 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:47,040 really sick, double the amount of time should go outside, even 299 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,320 if it's three to five minute micro expositions. 300 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,800 That's sorry my body is choking right now. 301 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,920 Are you OK? I'm fine. 302 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,680 I'm fine thank you. My my brain doesn't communicate 303 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,960 well with my muscles of swallowing all the time. 304 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:14,680 So I just took on my now anyway, so double it and if it's 305 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,920 playing, if it's going outside, if it's a Kitty that really 306 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,560 wants to go out, but you're not able to let them out. 307 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,480 He got sick because they're not going out. 308 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:30,280 Try to let them out play with them and #3 is evaluate just 309 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:35,360 within two weeks of value with the effect because I virtually 310 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:43,640 no say 99% of the time and see the symptom, the energetic 311 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,480 symptom result. So when you practice the 312 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:52,480 happiness protocol help to increase beam and breathe get 313 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,320 rid of symptoms. What do I mean by getting rid of 314 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,960 symptoms? We'll go into that, except 315 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,560 better be quiet now. Sorry, don't don't even know if 316 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,800 I answered your question, Janet, I opened it. 317 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:11,320 Yeah, well, I think that one, I want to say since the last time 318 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:17,120 we spoke, the theme questions have been something that I have 319 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:22,320 used with my pets especially. And I have, I will admit, I 320 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,800 haven't always been good at it, but it, I always remember it 321 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,720 when it's that time where at the end of their life where I'm 322 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,080 making these decisions and I'm questioning myself. 323 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,680 I'm like, this is a way that I can get out of my head and 324 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,720 actually look at my pet. But so I so I appreciate that 325 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,280 you have that out there for people to, to utilize as a 326 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,560 framework to really get them kind of back into like what is 327 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,840 actually going on with your pet. I know like, side note, when I 328 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,360 talk to people, a lot of times I have people come to me looking 329 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,600 for answers for help with their pets. 330 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,640 And they bring me all of this data, all of these, you know, 331 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,120 blood tests and all of these, all of this information. 332 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,640 And they're like, I need to get their ranges back, you know, 333 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,040 where they're supposed to be. And I'm like, my first question 334 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,520 is always, OK, but how is your dog, right? 335 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:26,120 Like it's really easy to get caught up in their liver values 336 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:29,160 are higher than they should be or their kidney values or 337 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,680 whatever is going on. I'm like, OK, but actually how 338 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,600 is your dog? And I think that's it. 339 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,160 Seems so simple but we forget about it. 340 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,120 We sure do. And that is the one fundamental 341 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:49,160 shift perhaps that we need to make is away from focusing on 342 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:56,120 symptoms versus quality of life symptoms or external and 343 00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:59,200 internal. So those liver value elevations 344 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,880 or symptoms, they're just internal symptoms team. 345 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,360 It's just an external symptom that happens to reflect, you 346 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:10,920 know, quality of life. It's actually 4 separate 347 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,800 symptoms that you can all grade separately. 348 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,840 But so yeah, thank you judge for for thinking about that, 349 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,200 remembering about that. And now my own doctor actually 350 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,640 asked me when I first go back for recheck how should be. 351 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,320 That's awesome. One of the things that I have 352 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:36,800 been really trying to focus on lately, especially, I mean, I'm 353 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,560 forever a student, right? Like there is never a point in 354 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,840 time where I'm going to say, oh, I know that. 355 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,600 Like, no, I don't. I know what I know, but I know 356 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,080 that there's other things I don't know. 357 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,120 And one of the things I've really been trying to focus on a 358 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:56,320 lot lately is the like really, really fundamental things that 359 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,520 we all take for granted. Light air quality, water 360 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,600 quality, just, you know, circadian rhythms, connection to 361 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,280 the earth, ground. They like these things that yes, 362 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,000 we most of us do not think about on a day-to-day basis, but have 363 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,240 huge impacts on our health. And what I have been thinking is 364 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,560 I'm listening to you talk, is that if we were to actually get 365 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,440 out of our own way and let our dog be a dog and let our cat be 366 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,000 a cat and let them show us what they want to do, how they want 367 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,560 to interact, how they, how much time they want to be outside. 368 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,080 Like all the things that we could really learn a lot not 369 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,640 just on how to better care for them, but honestly how to better 370 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,480 care for ourselves. And I, I think that might be 371 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:47,040 some of the like foundational principles of what I'm expecting 372 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,000 to hear and, and a lot of your work. 373 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,040 And that is and you're right and that brings back to the 374 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:58,440 awakening because our animals are as a cartoly says, they are 375 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,640 the perfect gateway for our awakening. 376 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,320 And the way to do that is just facing that you dog, be a dog, 377 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,320 get into the dog space, cat, be a cat and get into the cat. 378 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,360 Because they're not worried about the future that I'm 379 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:19,160 worried about the past now, they're in the now. 380 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,280 And like you said, not getting out of the head is a heart's 381 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,080 problem is getting us out of our heads. 382 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,440 You know what? When this approach began, we 383 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,680 called it embodied veterinary spirituality because being in 384 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,040 the body is is certainly one way of of getting out of your head. 385 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:44,480 A cart says we all need to come to our senses and in a way that 386 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,680 that's exact right. I mean, we just need to be aware 387 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,680 of what's going on around us. And that's why you'll see that 388 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,160 the path talks to talks about the C3 movement. 389 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,640 We can blow things up with C4 and ignite things and blow them 390 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,080 up, but we can blow up the world with C3. 391 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,160 And C3 is conscious, compassionate communication. 392 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,320 I. Like that that's. 393 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,040 We are all now officially part of that C3 movement and we're 394 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,160 going to blow up the world with that. 395 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,320 In a positive way. I like that. 396 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,080 That's yeah love, which is the highest energy, right Pam? 397 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,200 Yeah. Yeah, You know, you brought up 398 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:43,040 the Jessica, what you were talking about I equate to being 399 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,280 in nature. And you know, you, you have the 400 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,160 natural sunlight, which has been demonized. 401 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,880 And we were told to put sunscreen on, which is cancer 402 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,840 causing. I'm sorry. 403 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,920 I'm just going to say it. Yeah. 404 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,960 And my husband and I were outside with the five dogs this 405 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,840 Sunday. And I was just, I love being 406 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,160 outside in the backyard, as much sun as I can get. 407 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,880 And I'll tell you, since I've started doing that again and 408 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,360 going out barefooted and feeling the grass and connecting with 409 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:23,080 the earth, standing against a tree, just lying in the grass, 410 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,560 lying in a hammock, letting my dogs come and go. 411 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,960 It's always interesting to see how they'll gravitate to me. 412 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,360 The more grounded. I'm not going to say calmer, but 413 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:41,560 grounding creates a sense of peace and calm, which I'm not a 414 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,040 molecular scientist or a biologist or anything like that. 415 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:50,600 However, I know that's got to have a positive benefit at a 416 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:57,000 mitochondrial cellular level. And so I think it's interesting 417 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,920 because his comment was I need sunscreen. 418 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,560 And I said, you absolutely do not. 419 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,760 And we do not have any in the house. 420 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,760 So just soak up the sunshine. But and then Dr. Feynman, you 421 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,480 talk about the five senses and it just keeps coming. 422 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,200 The word that keeps coming to my spirit is nature. 423 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,440 And like you said, let a dog be a dog, let a cat be a cat. 424 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:27,160 And we've been taught and conditioned to almost live in 425 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:35,760 this bubble with all these manufactured everything, sprays, 426 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,240 perfumes, deodorizers. You know, your laundry's not 427 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:46,200 clean unless it smells like, you know, a field of sunflowers. 428 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,360 But it's contrived. And I think contrived is the 429 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:55,440 word and that just has created this sick model and all the 430 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,840 sickness and disease and getting back to nature 5 senses 431 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:05,120 simplicity and exactly where where your studies have taken 432 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,520 your life has taken you. Doctor Fineman. 433 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,400 I think that it's an exciting time. 434 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,120 I like your C3. I think that our listeners would 435 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:21,840 couldn't grasp on to the C3 and that I see that as an explosion 436 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:27,360 of health and positivity and love and balance and calm and 437 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,160 just whole. And so I'm excited to read your 438 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:35,760 book and I just wanted to connect that for everybody. 439 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:41,120 That's how it connected with me. But I would love to hear a story 440 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,880 about one of your cases, if you will, where you applied the 441 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,440 principles that you're teaching and you're writing about. 442 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,920 If you're here, it's because your pet isn't just a pet, your 443 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,000 family and you can feel when something's off, even if the 444 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,480 labs look normal. That's why I created Wild 445 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,720 Wellness Pet and the Wild Wellness Bioenergetic Test to 446 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,880 help you see the hidden stressors your pets body is 447 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,360 quietly carrying and give you a clear, holistic starting point. 448 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,520 Head to wildwellnesspet.com to explore the Bioenergetic Test 449 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,160 and the Apothecary and take the next loving, protective, 450 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,640 proactive step for your pets healing journey. 451 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,760 I would love to hear a story about one of your cases, if you 452 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,400 will, where you applied the principles that you're teaching 453 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,400 and you're writing about. I'm talking like because I 454 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,320 literally just submitted an article about that and you will 455 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,320 see it come out soon on my use That example, would that be all 456 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,440 right? Because it's Maya. 457 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:02,240 It's like last week, we spend all day on them. 458 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,200 I'll show you right now, but she's been right there that we 459 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,480 spend all day really in the office and so we're pretty 460 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,680 close. She started squinting last week 461 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:23,680 and then by by midday of sexual before lunch tries her help so 462 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,960 tightly closed. And then she started pointing 463 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,240 out with my son. Oh, you know, it's a bad acute 464 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,120 account. She was in daycare two days 465 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,120 before that that that that all related. 466 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,440 So what was my first? Well, all right, my first 467 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,800 response was panic. You know, it's like, oh, no, 468 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,920 just come scratch her eye or, you know, and make it worse. 469 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,320 The first response was just what he said. 470 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,800 Jenna was to go outside outside for 35 minutes. 471 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,640 Her eyes were totally better. All gone came inside, it came 472 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,480 back. That was a clue that her body 473 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,840 was giving me that. No going outside was great. 474 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,600 But you know, and and Bob's upstairs. 475 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:12,360 A very, very specific clue in the homeopathic part ones it's 476 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,960 called that modality and modality is what modifies you 477 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,280 know, our environment what what causes symptom or trigger a 478 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,080 symptom to come on or get better or get worse. 479 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,680 In this case, it was coming inside with making rods work. 480 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,000 She got a remedy, a homeopathic remedy. 481 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,680 That was the intervention also from the book and she got well 482 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,440 better. Then later in the day her eyes 483 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,200 turned beet red. Even when she was quinting and 484 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,360 pointing at them they weren't beet red. 485 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,880 It actually looked like she was bleeding at her odds. 486 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,920 Like if you I I let it open it look like those just blood 487 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,280 buckets that was her body tell me that there was something 488 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,600 different going on. Meaning that it was the same 489 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,920 thing, but I approached it the wrong way. 490 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,560 So I used a different remedy. The readiness was gone by the 491 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,639 time we woke up in the morning because she went to sleep right 492 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,440 after that. By the morning, she was fine. 493 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:16,440 So that was happiness. Sure, modality, homeopathy are 494 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,400 all come on in one and save myself around $1000 going to the 495 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,199 ER. Yeah. 496 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,239 But I will say that if that's quinting and continued, if, you 497 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,239 know, I didn't like the way she looked, I would have gone right 498 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,960 away and Einstein and you know, all the conventional years and 499 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,080 that that really is how I think you get the best wealth world to 500 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,520 get empowered with the information that there's another 501 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,239 way to look at it. Then what they did at Cornell. 502 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,719 You know, when when I first had this theory, I about vitality 503 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,239 imbalance, which is really what we're talking about, building a 504 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,280 vitality and balancing it said up there, I went to Cornell, 505 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,520 which is right here in Stanford, Cornell University fed 506 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,880 specialist and talked to their, their head internist said the 507 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,720 the framework is great. You know, it's wonderful, but 508 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:16,200 what do you do with it? So those words, what do you do 509 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,280 with it inspired me to figure out what you do with it and what 510 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,560 you do with this, what we're talking about right now. 511 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,720 So awesome. OK, awesome. 512 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,120 Do either of you have a question, girls? 513 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,880 I can always talk, that's why I'm trying to give you guys a 514 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,240 chance to talk. Feel like I'm asking all the 515 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,680 questions. I have two more but. 516 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:41,280 Yeah, yeah. I was going through some of 517 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:50,280 these kind of changing, changing channels a little bit since 518 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,120 changing the pet parents mindset is really part of this whole 519 00:35:54,120 --> 00:36:01,240 transition into a different paradigm thinking when, how did 520 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:05,280 you, how would you coach pet parents or what would you tell 521 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,200 them that they can ask their vet if they're if like a lot of 522 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,160 times, you know, they go to a vet's office and they are just, 523 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,680 they have 5 minutes to meet with you or whatever. 524 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,920 It's a very short period of time and there's not a whole lot of 525 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,800 talk time to talk into deeper issues or conversations. 526 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,600 Then a lot of pet parents just feel overwhelmed and they feel 527 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,680 pressured and rushed. But I think a lot of them would 528 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,920 really like to know how to ask questions to slow things down 529 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,520 and and make it make it like, talk to me like a layperson 530 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,440 instead of a doctor with your lingo and terminology and all 531 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,600 this. What kind of guidance would you 532 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:52,640 give pet parents to help them make those appointments the most 533 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,760 effective and helpful for them? I'm so glad you asked that 534 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,040 question, Pam, because I have a whole handout on that and it's 535 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:07,760 based on C3 based on using conscious class communication 536 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,440 with your with your vet. And the reason I'm doing this 537 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,320 right now is a lot of people are missing this at the end of the 538 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:24,840 preface is that QR code scan. The QR code gets you all of the 539 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,440 extra resources that go along with book, one of which is they 540 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,200 hand out about how to get these answers from you. 541 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:38,960 But think then it comes down to the individual pet parent and 542 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,400 are they empowered because a lot of us can go to the vet and vet 543 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,680 use all the stuff at us and we say thank you and leave and 544 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,440 then. We don't ask questions. 545 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,600 Yeah, but if you have a vet where you have to do what they 546 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,840 say right away and act right away, then it may be time to 547 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,600 find a new vet. If you need a vet that's 548 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,720 respectful, that's not, you know, can be based on it's my 549 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:10,120 way or the highways. Having an open mind is the basis 550 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,160 of science. And a veterinarian is supposed 551 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,760 to be a scientist. Scientist non molecular biology 552 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,520 off veterinary medicine. Scientist writing rules for 553 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,320 things that are reproducible and teachable. 554 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,960 Ask your fad. No, tell me exactly. 555 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,320 Don't, don't, don't. Sometimes I just say OK, good, 556 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,600 now we need to get that antibiotic. 557 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,880 Then I go home and decide what to do. 558 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,160 I think this topic is has become even more difficult for pet 559 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,840 parents to tackle since so much of veterinary medicine has 560 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,200 become corporatized and most people today, I would be willing 561 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,640 to bet, don't see the same doctor for their pet each time 562 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,400 they go in. And so there aren't 563 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,840 relationships being built and that just makes things so much 564 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,320 more difficult. For sure. 565 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,680 Yeah. And those are those 566 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,520 relationships. That connection is exactly what 567 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,320 the different fact that you see every time. 568 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,200 They don't know your animal. You know your animal better than 569 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,520 any any veterinarian. And why do implore people, even 570 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,800 if they're in a huge corporate practice, request the same 571 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,920 veterinarian each time? You can ask. 572 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,600 They're not going to give it to you if you don't ask. 573 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,640 I'm so glad you said that that you brought that up, Jessica and 574 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,720 Doctor Feynman, your answer is ask. 575 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:48,400 And it is about empowerment. And you know, we we try to 576 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,760 convey to our community that you are your pets advocate. 577 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,680 You're their voice. They don't have one now they 578 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,480 present with quote UN quote problems, but you are doing the 579 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,200 speaking for them. And you know, they're so 580 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,800 susceptible just as we are, as you know, humans. 581 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,040 And I think again, the awakening. 582 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,920 I think we're seeing more and more people questioning things, 583 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,520 which questioning is always good. 584 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:25,080 Questioning is how we discover. And would you say, Pam, learn, 585 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,280 learn. Yes, we discover, we learn and 586 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:37,440 we improve hopefully because it goes back to the old, you know, 587 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,360 saying about if you always do what you've always done, you're 588 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,080 always going to get what you always got. 589 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,680 And if it were working, no matter if you're in a corporate 590 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,800 veterinary environment, I think now statistically speaking, it's 591 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,960 75% of all veterinary clinics are corporate owned because, you 592 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,520 know, private equity money has discovered that, oh, we can 593 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:10,000 create a funnel and a script and a process for everything and we 594 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,120 can monetize it. It's disgusting. 595 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,840 It's. But that's the way the world 596 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,200 and. It is the way of the world, but 597 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:24,680 we're talking to the disruptors. Well, that's where I was going 598 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,400 with that. It's the way of the world. 599 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,800 But we know there's a lot better in different way. 600 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,800 But what we're talking about fundamentally is the corporate 601 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,960 mindset and point of view, the money, money, money or the 602 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,560 kinship worldview. What is the kinship worldview? 603 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,160 The kinship worldview is same worldview that the Native 604 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,480 Americans First Nation upward, they all share. 605 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,280 It's all that we're all kin, we're all related. 606 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,400 We're all connected by that energy of love. 607 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,720 And there's a a fantastic book called Restoring the kinship 608 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:06,760 worldview. It's a bunch of scientists from 609 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:11,320 all around the world just putting it all together in the 610 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,200 way that that we could restore that and maybe still have 611 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,080 corporate America, just not the divide getting bigger and bigger 612 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,760 and bigger the way it is right now. 613 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,000 And you're right. I mean, you're 100% right. 614 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,080 It's going to come from the pet parents, not can come from the 615 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,000 veterinary model works. It's working. 616 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,480 That's getting rid of symptoms. I'm making money, So what more 617 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,320 can you ask? Yeah, it's when it comes back. 618 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,120 You know, if that were working well, it would the things would 619 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,000 not keep coming back. And I think on putting, going 620 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,920 back to what can pet parents do differently in order to get a 621 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,400 different result and hopefully a better result. 622 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,120 I like the three CS. And so they can help guide that 623 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,360 conversation when by taking the tools that you know, you're 624 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,080 teaching them and you're providing in your book, they can 625 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,480 take that and apply it to their appointments. 626 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,320 And I'm I, I would be willing to bet they'd get a completely 627 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,000 different experience and outcome. 628 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,320 And I I would agree. And even they're thinking about 629 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,800 this before the visit is going to change the outcome because 630 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,680 the energetic vibration is going to be different on their end. 631 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,440 However, and you know this better than than I am sure you 632 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,320 know, most vets are overwhelmed. They've got information. 633 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,960 We graduate, their heads are full and we're just going to do 634 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,160 we have to do to pay back our student loans. 635 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,800 And yeah, more and more clinics you're now becoming 636 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,080 corporatized, but you still can find, you know, break down the 637 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,280 road for me as a mom and pop actually just pop. 638 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,840 But you know what services, you know, the whole the whole area. 639 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,600 And he's just a non corporate veterinarian. 640 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:09,320 So yeah, we have a great article on holistic actions on choosing 641 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,640 your veterinarian. Fuck your veterinarian. 642 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,120 I think it's a holisticactions.com just forward 643 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,960 slash us select have select a holistic veterinarian and that's 644 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,200 holistic bringing us back to the conversation that we started 645 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,840 with. That's what holistic with an H 646 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,360 doesn't necessarily mean. There are holistic veterinarian 647 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,200 with the West. That's so true. 648 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,040 That is so true. Because Jess or whoever said 649 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,200 that we're fixing, we're getting rid of symptoms with stop and 650 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:48,040 foods in lieu of drugs. That's the holistic way. 651 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,720 But the holistic way is we've adopted this, this other 652 00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:55,760 energetic paradigm that we're talking. 653 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,360 I want to ask something totally different if you don't mind. 654 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,160 This is not a question we sent to you, but since it kind of it 655 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,320 came up, I'm curious. I'm genuinely curious your your 656 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,160 thought on this because you said the current veterinary model is 657 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:17,840 working and as far as as privatized investment and 658 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,680 corporations are concerned, it is working. 659 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:22,360 Like you said, they're suppressing the symptoms and 660 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,440 they're making money and the dogs and the cats coming right 661 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,920 back in because we're just suppressing the symptoms and 662 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,320 they just keep making money. But where my mind went with this 663 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,640 and it is working right now. I totally agree with you. 664 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,440 My mind went with this. Just since the introduction of 665 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,320 kibble, we have seen in some breeds, their lifespan is half 666 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,600 of what it used to be before the introduction of kibble. 667 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,320 And let's, and I'm just calling out Kibble, even though there's 668 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,200 so many other factors, vaccines and toxins in the environment, 669 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,120 like all the things are so many factors, but that is a statistic 670 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,720 that we can actually look at like cancer rates are 671 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,440 astronomical and lifespan is drastically shortened. 672 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,040 And if it continues this way, then I think it's no longer 673 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:16,160 going to be a profitable model because the the model is to keep 674 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,480 them sick because then they keep coming back. 675 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,560 But if we're killing them, that's not a profitable model. 676 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,040 When it gets shorter and shorter. 677 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,600 Yeah. I'm just curious your thought on 678 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,600 that. Oh, you're muted? 679 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,600 No. Audio I had went to something 680 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,440 where totally different when you just brought that up Jessica and 681 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,240 I'm just going to hold that for an off camera conversation. 682 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,920 Oh, no, I want to hear it. But when you give what I said 683 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,280 was when you use the wrong metric, you get the wrong 684 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,440 answer. And if we're using the metric of 685 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,840 getting rid of symptoms and yeah, we I can get we already 686 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,800 have lifespans producing chronic disease rise. 687 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:04,280 I mean, it's so freaking clear. I mean, I give a talk at a big 688 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,240 training center about a decade ago and owner of the center 689 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:11,720 worked for new feed breeder, Newfoundland dog, you know, 690 00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:19,440 breeder back in the 50s big dogs that left now what, 8910? 691 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:26,160 They were 1718 routinely and they this is the argument they 692 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:33,720 ate that same kibble but they also had mixture of fresh foods. 693 00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:40,040 I think that's key right there is for building up the vitamin 694 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:45,520 V, vitamin V, vitamin vitality, you know, the vitality and that 695 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,200 we need to survive. That's in fresh food, but not in 696 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,200 processed food. That's really Kimmel happens to 697 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,280 be at the lowest level. Well, now it used to be what 698 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,720 they called the lowest level. Now I call hydrolyzed foods 699 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,600 lowest level. That's a. 700 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,560 Good point of devitalized foods. Yeah, they're not readily 701 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,320 available, but they're there, and they're more and more 702 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,240 Debian. Bermina was feeding a hydrolyzed 703 00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,120 food because I think you may have IBD. 704 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:19,280 But anyway, yeah, processed food, Kimble, hydrolyzed food, 705 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,720 fresh food. We know there's a direct 706 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,000 correlation between the more processed food you eat as a 707 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,560 person or an animal, the sicker you get, the more recurrent 708 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,440 issues you get. And no, I don't think Jess, 709 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:42,880 we're going to get to the point in in our lifetimes where we're 710 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,440 going to reach the point of dementia returns where the Corp 711 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,680 model is going to realize that maybe there's another model out 712 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,240 there. So what is happening are places 713 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:59,400 like Mars seeing that pet parents are really starting to 714 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:04,080 feed fresh food. So what was their first step by 715 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,560 up of fresh food manufacturer? Yes, great. 716 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,240 I mean, if we can get the if we can get them behind this, that's 717 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:18,120 all we need really is 11 billionaire to fund a, you know, 718 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,600 a project like this. We could we could change, you 719 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,480 know, fat Med. This is all really comes down to 720 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:33,200 to funding, and we don't get funding to do the studies to 721 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,240 prove that what we're talking about is real companies that 722 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:43,800 give us the funding have started that there's some other model 723 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,000 that's better and that is the model of drugs, you know? 724 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:50,280 Yeah. Well, I know on that topic. 725 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,040 And Pam, remind me to talk to you about this later, because 726 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:59,400 Ryan Yamka and Farmer's Dog recently published a paper, Yes, 727 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:05,640 on fresh food versus extruded, showing the benefit that's very, 728 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,240 very recent that just happened. So that's a win, even though I 729 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:15,280 may not be the hugest fan of Fireworks Dog, but it's it's a 730 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,960 win. It's a step in the right 731 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,200 direction towards. Exactly, exactly. 732 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,760 I mean, a decade ago, if you want to use that and you talked 733 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,080 about French fruit feeding, you might have been kicked out of 734 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:35,360 practice because it was so far from, you know, the prescription 735 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,280 dyes. But now it's very, very, very 736 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:44,320 common and growing whether it's cooked or raw. 737 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,440 Nope. There's just so many ways to do 738 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:53,600 and that's, I'm sorry, but that nutritional stuff is all great 739 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,080 info. But that complexity is bringing 740 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,600 this further and further from simplicity of 1. 741 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,760 It is, it is. And, and you know, for me, any 742 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:12,160 path a pet parent finds to come to what are, are the original 743 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,720 modalities that are considered now alternative modalities. 744 00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:21,440 You know, I, I would hope there are enough of us to like welcome 745 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,880 those people into whatever lane they are coming over in, whether 746 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,480 it's nutrition or supplements or, you know, no sods instead of 747 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:33,080 vaccine or whatever. It may be that there are enough 748 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,720 of us to be able to talk about any of these different 749 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:40,880 modalities to to help their pets and continue to convert them 750 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,800 over onto. I don't want to say our side, 751 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:51,360 but it seems like it's our side. Sometime reality bring them back 752 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,440 into the Now bring them back into the because the answer 753 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,840 janitor. How do you get that person 754 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:02,480 change when they see the change in their animals, when they see 755 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,360 the reality of what happens when they practice that in this 756 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,920 protocol for two weeks? Wait a minute, stop ditching. 757 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,120 I don't get it. But you can explain that there 758 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,840 is a science back framework behind this. 759 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,720 But doesn't matter, just do it. I guess that's my advice. 760 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:30,240 Just do it just. Pam, Janet Dyer there if you 761 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,120 have any other questions that you want to ask Doctor Feynman. 762 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,600 I have one last question, but Pam, do you want to go first? 763 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,080 Mine is geared toward the veterinary community. 764 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,440 Yeah, go for it. We might have the same one. 765 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,880 OK. It's just regarding, you know, 766 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,240 those that have chosen the what I consider a noble path, you 767 00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:53,320 know, caring for pets. So practitioners, veterinarians 768 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,040 as well, if they're listening and they're feeling that pull in 769 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,640 the tug towards going towards a more integrative or even 770 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:10,880 holistic path, what 1 courageous first step would you recommend 771 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,800 that they take? What's your advice? 772 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,640 The answer is going to be very unsatisfying to you because the 773 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,360 answer is it depends hands on what is that individual willing 774 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,960 to read a book willing to read a book, then I would say read you 775 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,320 know what Don Hamilton about homeopathy or any anything that 776 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,640 expands their their current knowledge base that a read. 777 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,280 It's a new book by the neurosurgeon. 778 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,240 It's not even that new anymore, but he had a one week coma where 779 00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:48,360 he was brain dead, but he remembered the whole thing. 780 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,360 And you know, then goes into explaining why it's all related 781 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,840 to alignment and that the more we align with the reality of 782 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,040 life and the afterlife where we can, the better we can make 783 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,200 decisions. So the one thing I would say 784 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,280 will depend on the individual. Most people, let's say, read a 785 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,080 book. There's, there are books like 786 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:19,800 Kent's lectures on homeopathic philosophy, very, very easy to 787 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:27,200 read and it gives you a whole new perspective on health and 788 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,200 life. Or go way down. 789 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,920 You know, if they're not able to do anything, then all we ask is 790 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,920 to open their minds a little bit. 791 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,640 Do what you said at the beginning and ask, ask, ask that 792 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,400 question. Kindle that natural curiosity 793 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,000 that drove many of us to be veterinarians in the 1st place. 794 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,960 We were naturally curious about why our analysts did what they 795 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,760 did, or why life was the way it was. 796 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,000 Thank you. That's probably a really great 797 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,840 thought to end on and. I agree. 798 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,960 Yeah, I was. Being open minded, Yeah, see 799 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,200 open minded. Dr. Feynman, can you show us 800 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,600 your book one more time? Sure. 801 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,680 And I. Tell us where it's available. 802 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,800 Anywhere you buy. Books, okay. 803 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:23,360 If you put a holisticactions.com/book gives 804 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:29,600 you a bunch of different options and then scan that QR code, we 805 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:34,400 have 10 hours of video diving deeper into the book. 806 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,640 People from around the world, there is guide to what you can 807 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,000 do with your vet, a ton of other things. 808 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,200 But Jenna, I also wanted to read quote that begins. 809 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,920 There's a bunch of quotes in the book. 810 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,960 Quote that begins the book. We cannot solve our problems 811 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,560 with the same thinking we used when we created them. 812 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,280 Yes. And you said that. 813 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,040 Yes, that was it. Einstein said that. 814 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,760 Awesome. That's perfect. 815 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,200 Perfect. Yes, Doctor Feynman, we 816 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,560 appreciate you so very much. I'm so looking forward to 817 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,320 reading this book. My TBR pile is, is large, I'm 818 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,400 not going to lie, but I, I definitely it's, it's going 819 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,360 closer to the top because. Yes, it it it's. 820 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,480 It's definitely for me triggering something that has 821 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,760 been kind of swirling around in my brain for the past couple of 822 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,280 months anyway. And that is that reconnection 823 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:44,520 with nature And it, it's certainly been adjusting the 824 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,920 people I bring on the podcast and the things that I talked 825 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,920 about. And I've, I've been in this like 826 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,720 phase of, of kind of remolding the education that I'm even 827 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:56,360 putting out. And that's kind of where I've 828 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,440 been going. So I appreciate you so very 829 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,760 much. Thank you for being here with us 830 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,120 today. And holisticactions.com where 831 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,040 you can find everythingholisticactions.com/book 832 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,600 if you want to go directly to how you can find the book. 833 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,280 So thank you so much. Thank you. 834 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:15,440 Thank. You. 835 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,080 Thank you, Doctor Feynman. Great. 836 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,000 See. Y'all all right guys, give your 837 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,440 pets some extra love from all of us this week and we will talk to 838 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,160 you next time. Sounds good. 839 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:30,120 Have a blessed. Before you go, if today's 840 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,040 episode got you thinking about what's really going on beneath 841 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,920 the surface for your pet, don't forget to check out Wild 842 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,600 Wellness pet.com. You'll find the Wild Wellness 843 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,320 Bioenergetic Test to help uncover hidden stressors, plus a 844 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,600 curated apothecary of holistic remedies to support true root 845 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,600 cause healing. Visit wildwellnesspet.com to 846 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,200 start building a calmer, more vibrant pet from the inside out.