1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,760 Welcome back, pet parent. I have none other than Billy 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,760 Hookman back with me today. And we were just talking before 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,240 this. This is going to be so raw of an 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,440 episode because neither of us know what we're doing. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,120 We have agreed. So welcome back, Billy. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,160 How are you doing today? I am pretty good. 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,000 It's it's been the rainiest month almost I think maybe ever 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,760 in the month of May at Lancaster, which is not my jam, 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,760 but it's sunny today, so I feel good about that. 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,360 Well, good, it's a sunny day, let's take advantage. 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,000 We're going to talk about Green Juju's probiotics. 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,520 Before we do that though, would you mind telling me or reminding 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,760 me, Reminding the listeners, there's prebiotics, probiotics, 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,200 post biotics. Can we run through that real 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,880 quick? Yeah. 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,640 So prebiotics are the things that post biotics or sorry that 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,520 probiotics eat. So they are food for probiotics. 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,960 Probiotics are those beneficial bacteria that do things in your 19 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:05,040 gut and post biotics are the result of those probiotics in 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,920 your gut, their life cycle. And when they grow and 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,760 metabolize, they basically sort of the byproduct of that is like 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,880 enzymes, vitamins, beneficial nutrients, organic acids. 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,720 So it's kind of like a whole life cycle, which is what you 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,920 get in, you know, say our wild fermented mushroom probiotic or 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,800 fans digestive support or Lewis inflammation support or 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,760 something like that because it's the whole food, you get the 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,040 whole gambit of those things. So we talk so much about gut 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,680 health and like that's just what we're doing here again today. 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:44,440 But it's so important for everything going on in the body. 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,760 Like if our gut isn't functioning properly, if we're 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:53,240 not getting the pre and probiotics, if we're not getting 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,080 those post biotic breakdowns, then nothing is like really 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,320 functioning in the body all that well. 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:06,040 When we think about food as medicine and we think about that 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,759 for our pets, I think that's kind of where Green Juju kind of 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,800 differentiates themselves from most other pet foods, even in 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,880 the healthy pet food space, that it's so important for our pets 38 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,400 to to really thrive. But what was it like? 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,160 Why did you decide to go out and play around with making these 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,640 probiotic formulas? Like what? 41 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:35,760 What were you seeing or what were you looking for that wasn't 42 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,160 there in the market? Yeah, that's an interesting 43 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,280 question. I, I was actually at a trade 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:46,280 show over the last week for like our retailers and couple of them 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,280 came up and they were like separately we're like we think 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,640 you're doing like the most innovative stuff industry and 47 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:55,040 that was a huge compliment. And that's really what we strive 48 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,240 for is to, you know, what Kelly and I create all the products it 49 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,520 comes back to like the premise of we don't know what the best 50 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,840 diet is for a dog or cat. Like we have a good foundation 51 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,280 for it, but but we always need to improve on, we always need 52 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,640 to, you know, and that's where like I consider, I consider that 53 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:18,840 my strongest asset is like creativity in that realm. 54 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,160 I, you know, I really like established knowledge and all 55 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,160 that kind of stuff, but pushing that and for better health 56 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,240 outcomes is, is really my my passion. 57 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:32,720 And, you know, the process of making these products is so fun 58 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,240 with the entire team. You know, when it goes back to 59 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,320 everybody on on board with green juju, I think it's, it's 60 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,440 exciting and fun and we do it almost too much because we like 61 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,800 it. But we always, you know, try to 62 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,280 be like, oh, we're not going to do as much as many new products 63 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,400 that had new ideas come to circle back to your question. 64 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,840 I don't remember the exact. So one of the things that like I 65 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,120 say this a lot, I probably said it's not your podcast a lot, but 66 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,000 I think about nutrition all the time and I think about like 67 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,920 different ways of approaching it. 68 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,080 It's just I've been doing this. I've been thinking in that way 69 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,440 since like, I don't know, going back to like 22,000 and 10, 70 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,560 right? Like just even when I just had 71 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,600 my own dog Lua, and I wasn't really in the industry or 72 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,800 anything like that and I was just doing stuff for her. 73 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,160 That's just the way that I thought for whatever reason. 74 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,360 And so it's hard for me to pinpoint the exact idea. 75 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,760 But I do remember talking with Kelly and being like, wouldn't 76 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,920 it be really cool if, you know, we could take these foods that 77 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,400 have all of these different diverse probiotic species and 78 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,880 somehow remove them from the food and put them in a powdered 79 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,880 probiotic. And at that point it's just kind 80 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,560 of like a dream because there's a lot of ideas. 81 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,480 It's a very funny inside joke for our team that we have a 82 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,160 shelf products folder in our share drives. 83 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,360 And it's things that are done or things that we don't know if 84 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,200 they'd sell or they're too expensive or whatever, but 85 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,560 they're all there and they're done. 86 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,560 And they're, you know, things that it also might be like, hey, 87 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,680 I think like, oh, this is really cool. 88 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,920 And everybody else like, no, we're not doing that. 89 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:14,320 So it really depends on that. But I've always been really 90 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,520 obsessed with this idea of naturally occurring probiotics 91 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,720 versus, you know, what we see as as traditional probiotic 92 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,080 supplements. And I think that the research 93 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:30,480 really is, is clarifying that diversity is key over potency. 94 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,160 And so the whole premise behind these is diversity over potency. 95 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,960 And I looked long and hard at the human supplement industry. 96 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,720 And obviously I knew it wasn't in the pet food industry, but I 97 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,400 looked long and hard and I said, you know, no one's ever done 98 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,080 this before. So that's, I think we can make 99 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,840 some really big inroads with this. 100 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:51,440 And so we went about finding how to do it and working with the 101 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,480 lab and it's been a really interesting process throughout 102 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,160 the the way. So there are three different 103 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,920 ones. Can you tell me, can you break 104 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,880 them down for me and tell me the difference in the three? 105 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,520 Yeah, so we have soil, leaf and farm and kudos to Kelly on the 106 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,720 names for those because she came up with that. 107 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:16,200 She's so good at marketing, like, you know, she just like 108 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,400 she came up with all of those herself. 109 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,120 I don't claim any credit for that. 110 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,360 And so we have soil leaf and farm. 111 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,200 And so the the first part is, I guess the first thing to go 112 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,600 would be to go into how we make them. 113 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,080 Actually, no, I'm going to go into the cultures because the 114 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,880 cultures to me are my favorite part. 115 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,440 And so they're very, so when I say cultures, I mean whole food 116 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,960 cultures, all of the cultures that come from fermented foods, 117 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,280 all of the probiotics and the healthy yeast that come from 118 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,800 specific 3 fermented foods. And it goes even further than 119 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,800 that because these aren't just, these aren't just, these are 120 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,800 like raw fermented milk, kombucha and wild fermented 121 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:03,560 plants. It goes further than that 122 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,560 because of the fact that they come from Kelly and I and you 123 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,520 know, we have our cultures and it's kind of a cool thing. 124 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,680 We could send those out, you know, to be very nerdy. 125 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,280 We could send those out into the world. 126 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,360 But soil is derived from Bailey's blend. 127 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:25,800 So in order to make the culture base here, I took Bailey's blend 128 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:31,200 and I added a 2% salt, added 2% sea salt to it so I could reduce 129 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,560 the pH quicker and create a grater ferment in it. 130 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,680 All of basically much like when you look at any of our fermented 131 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,880 products, all of the probiotics in the soil come from the 132 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,200 broccoli, the green cabbage, the cilantro, all those things that 133 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,400 are in Bailey's blend. So a very, I think it's like 8 134 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,040 different plants, right? A very unique blend there. 135 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,640 And typically when you look at the literature, those are going 136 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,440 to have at least 500 different species on average in any wild 137 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,520 fermented vegetation. So that's really like nature 138 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,280 that that's essentially like the probiotic powder version of 139 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,760 letting your dog go out into the grass and eat dirt and roll 140 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,800 around because they're soil based and non soil based 141 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,800 cultures there. And there's such a wide 142 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,960 diversity of them. And we've already seen some 143 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,960 amazing results in our testing. We are going down the path now 144 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,520 of two clinical research studies, but even our testing 145 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,360 and some of our, our data that we currently have, we've, we've 146 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,200 had some amazing results. And it's really cool when you 147 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:47,240 can combine like interesting theory and real results. 148 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,040 So a good example of that is the reason why I think this works so 149 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,240 well is because we've really removed dogs and cats from their 150 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,240 evolutionary environment. So when it comes down to it, 151 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,240 they don't live in the woods anymore. 152 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,920 They don't sleep outside. They don't, you know, cats don't 153 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,480 go outside at all usually. And so that's great for them. 154 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,320 They're very comfortable. You know, my dog's very 155 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,200 comfortable between my legs under the blankets every night. 156 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,520 I'm not very comfortable. I will say when he does that, 157 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,560 but I let him do it for whatever reason. 158 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:16,960 And so, or when he's pushing me off the bed. 159 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,960 So that's living with a dog. So, but that's not great for his 160 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,760 microphone. And so it's, it's really nice to 161 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,920 be able to have this theory and go, this is like the probiotic 162 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,480 equivalent of letting them do that because it brings it into 163 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,640 the bowl. And then we had a case study 164 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,920 that we did with Barbara Royals lead fat tech, which we saw, 165 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,400 which they did a gut dysbiosis test, which had started at so 0 166 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,720 is basically no gut dysbiosis. And so she tested before she did 167 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,840 soil and she had a 3.8, which is a pretty high level of gut 168 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,840 dysbiasis. And then that same test measures 169 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,920 for pathogens and intoxants coming off of those pathogens. 170 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,120 And she did soil for a month and then retested and this gut 171 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:04,360 disposes went down to 0.8. So almost healed, tested 172 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:10,560 negative for pathogens and tested negative for the toxins 173 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:14,240 coming off those pathogens. So we, we think that's a really 174 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,880 good just specific case study incense, which is kind of why 175 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,120 we're going down the, the research, you know, the, the 176 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,680 clinical research route with these. 177 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,920 So it's really cool when you can have that in theory and see it 178 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,000 actually in practice. And so that's what I think we're 179 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,040 going to see. And when I go into usability, 180 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,480 I'll talk a little bit more about that. 181 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,480 But so that's soil and it's just a really, it's hard to say that 182 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,520 nature that you can outdo nature in the sense it's because this 183 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,960 is like nature's version of a probiotic. 184 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,880 So we also. Wait, because so that's where my 185 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,560 mind drifts talking about you can't outdo nature, right? 186 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,720 And, and I know you've already, we've talked about this a couple 187 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,520 of times on the podcast where you had to completely rethink 188 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,880 HPP. And now I'm looking at these 189 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,960 probiotics and I'm like, they, they look incredible. 190 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,160 They're so wonderful. But like that kind of like 191 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:17,960 naturalist mentality, kind of I feel like I'm having, or maybe 192 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,760 you had to and maybe other people out there who are just 193 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,960 like, but nature provides, let's just do what's natural. 194 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,320 Let's just go out and get whatever from nature. 195 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:33,040 Like the fact that you are taking these and you're sending 196 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,320 them through a laboratory and removing the fit. 197 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,680 Like how do you feel about that? Really. 198 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,080 How do you feel about that? Yeah, and that's a great 199 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,560 question. Well, first of all, on the HPV 200 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:46,400 thing, I think it's an interesting way to look at A at 201 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,680 food safety in general is it doesn't matter what the food 202 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:54,960 safety method is, you're taking a natural process and applying 203 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,400 it. You're taking naturally existing 204 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,160 things and applying them in non natural ways. 205 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:06,160 So bacterial flashes, you are taking these viruses that attack 206 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,000 bacteria and you're applying them in amounts that you don't 207 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,640 see in nature, right? So fermentation, you're taking 208 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,680 these bacteria that exist in nature and you're applying them 209 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:23,800 in amounts that you don't see happen naturally in nature, 210 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,040 right? HPP, you are taking pressure, 211 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,560 which obviously exists in nature and you're applying it in 212 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:33,400 amounts that don't exist in food in nature. 213 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:37,080 So I think with all food safety steps, you're taking natural 214 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,800 processes. Well, unless it's like I would 215 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,120 say in the main three that you're looking at in raw food 216 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,880 for pets, right? You're each one of them is a 217 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,120 naturally existing process that takes that you're applying in an 218 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,800 unnatural way. And that's what it takes to, you 219 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,600 know, control pathogens essentially. 220 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:59,640 So, so I don't agree that so if you say nature, so nature's best 221 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,800 is just a starting point. If you say nature is best and 222 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,880 that's where you end it, then that's a logical fallacy. 223 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,680 It's appealed to nature logical fallacy. 224 00:13:06,680 --> 00:13:09,560 And it you cannot build an argument based on a logical 225 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:13,920 fallacy, at least not one that's going to be true because of that 226 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,200 reason. So that's just a starting point. 227 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,080 And so I would say like when I say it's hard to outdo nature, 228 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,200 what I, what I mean by that is it's hard to outdo what is 229 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,680 naturally existing in the environment because it, in this 230 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:34,960 one specifically soil, we're letting the environment grow as 231 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,440 a probiotic. And we still need to see the 232 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,520 results in the animals, which is the actual science part. 233 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,240 So we we start with this concept of nature and then we move 234 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,200 forward because, you know, here's another good example of 235 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,680 that. If someone were to say humans 236 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:55,720 are the only species that drink milk in adulthood, like that 237 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,880 really sounds like that's like a cohesive argument. 238 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:02,720 But then you apply that to other things and you say, well, humans 239 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,320 are the only things, the only animals that use iPhones. 240 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,120 So what? Right. 241 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:12,120 No, I'm training my dog to use my iPhone. 242 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,000 Oh, there you go. So, so that that doesn't make 243 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,080 that doesn't give it a negative or positive value. 244 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,080 You then have to look at what is the actual science behind milk? 245 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Is it digestible? All these all these different 246 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,520 things. So I use that as an example of 247 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,560 kind of what I was talking about. 248 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,360 So and I think we will address that as well. 249 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,280 So. I do like how you you called out 250 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,640 iPhones when you don't use an iPhone but. 251 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,480 That's a good point. I get made fun of. 252 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,080 I get made fun of all the time for that and for the from the 253 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:49,280 green juju folks, really. Yes, 100%. 254 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,880 I get so, so frustrated when I send somebody a text for the 255 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,800 first time and it doesn't come back blue, it comes back green. 256 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,000 I'm like, oh, do I want to talk to this person anymore? 257 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,360 Those are the people who want a good camera, so as it turns out. 258 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,160 But OK, all right, so those. Are my people. 259 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,720 That. Want the biggest phone that's 260 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,720 ever existed and then. Yeah, yeah, I I'm kind of 261 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,360 intentional about like whatever version of the iPhone I go get, 262 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,800 I'm like, what's the smallest version of that iPhone? 263 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,920 Because I don't like, I still want to be able to put it in my 264 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,280 pocket. Like, how do you, I mean, I 265 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,000 guess your pockets are bigger than mine, but yeah, I don't, I 266 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,560 don't know. Yeah, I I just go what's the 267 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,880 best camera? And this one has five cameras, 268 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,240 so it has to be the best one. That's what I. 269 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,720 So maybe what are we talking about? 270 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,520 We were talking. About there would be 6 that's 271 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,840 crazy. It just blew my own mind. 272 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,840 So we're talking about soil and I and I will kind of address 273 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,600 more of that too. I think when we get into like 274 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,320 the usability of it of all these and kind of the the concept that 275 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,360 we were like going for. So we also have Farm, which 276 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,080 comes from fermented raw milk and is a very special culture 277 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,640 itself, which is my raw yogurt. I don't know what's going on 278 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,440 with my voice, but it's just going to be what it is. 279 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:13,840 So it's going farm is my home raw yogurt culture, which has 280 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:19,000 been alive for at the time that we sent it to the lab over 2 281 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,240 years. So. 282 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,720 Can I ask you what you named it? I have no name for it. 283 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,680 You have no name for it. You call it alive, but then you 284 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,240 don't name it. But I don't have a name for or 285 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,160 gender for that. I do have gender for Mike and 286 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,160 Bucha Scooby. She's a girl, but. 287 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,800 She's a girl that makes sense because it's life. 288 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,080 It's life giving it. Makes sense. 289 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,800 It is, it is, it is, it is the most intense culture of the 290 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,760 yogurt culture because it's so basically, I'll go into why it's 291 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,160 intense because I'm the only one who drinks this stuff, but which 292 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,240 is, which is good that we didn't mean the cultures into this 293 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,240 powdered form. So this is both cow and goat 294 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,480 milk and it's mostly cow because that's what I actually prefer 295 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,560 when it comes to, you know, the taste of it. 296 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,040 But so essentially I started with a standard yogurt culture 297 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:18,839 and make yogurt at 100°, which means that it maintains all of 298 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:22,800 the nutrients and raw or, and bacteria content of raw milk, 299 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,760 right? And so I'm adding these 300 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,280 cultures, but the, the other cultures will grow as well. 301 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,800 So we started there. And then we also, I also added 302 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,080 in like I believe four other local Pennsylvania farms that 303 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,080 make raw milk or that make sorry, raw yogurt. 304 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,360 So it was their own blend of raw yogurt. 305 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,880 But that also goes to the yeast in the air, goes to that 306 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,240 specific farm, goes to all those different things. 307 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,520 I also added a commercial coconut yogurt to it. 308 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,960 So that's in there as well. And by the way, every time I 309 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,080 added something, I would still do the 1/4 of a cup of the last 310 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,200 batch and then I do 1/8 cup of the new thing. 311 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,840 And within that time, I, within the two years, I've made raw 312 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,600 yogurt once or twice a week, every week basically. 313 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,880 And so every time I added in a new batch of, of raw milk, 314 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,200 there's more diversity there. You know, it depended on that 315 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,520 cow or goats genetics, what they ate, you know, the farm they 316 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,920 were on, the temperature of the grass, all these things dictate 317 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,160 the probiotic content of raw milk. 318 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,000 And so it's a very, very diverse culture. 319 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,720 And when you, the actual culture itself is so fermented, it's 320 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,840 very high naturally existing yeast as well. 321 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,760 And so it's kind of smells like bread was the first thing. 322 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,880 I've never added yeast to it, which is interesting. 323 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,400 Kind of smells like bread. And it's very tangy. 324 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,240 There's like basically no sugar. Where is it getting the yeast 325 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,960 from? Is it just the environment? 326 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,800 From the raw milk and from the environment, yeah. 327 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,720 And so and yeast tend to proliferate even better than 328 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:01,320 bacteria. So it, it, it's very tangy. 329 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:04,840 There's literally no sweetness. Do it essentially, it's very 330 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,400 like thick for raw yogurt and it's slightly carbonated, like 331 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,080 that's how fermented this is. And so I enjoy it. 332 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,240 I had it this morning, but no one else in my house will drink 333 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,320 it. So in fact, I, you know, even 334 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,600 huckleberry was like, whoa, this is intense. 335 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,720 So, so it's a good thing for people that we so, so we're 336 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,000 taking this huge culture. But so if you look at the 337 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,080 literature on raw milk, you have like at least 3000 different 338 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:37,160 cultures and healthy yeast. And in this case, we actually, 339 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:42,120 the lab actually took the culture and grew it in one 340 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:44,840 environment that was conducive to yeast and one environment 341 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,440 that was conducive to bacteria. And we use a 5050 split of the 342 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,480 yeast of bacteria that make up the entire culture. 343 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,280 And we do that for both leaf, which we'll talk about and farm. 344 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,560 So this is like even for being fermented raw milk, this is an 345 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,200 incredibly diverse culture. So really proud of that as well. 346 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,280 And leaf is reference to tea leaves because it's base, it's 347 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,920 kombucha base. And it's my kombucha Scooby, 348 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,200 which has been aligned for over 10 years and is. 349 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,720 In the same way, incredibly diversified. 350 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,520 So it's actually lived in several different regions. 351 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,200 So it's lived in LA, it's lived in Philadelphia, it's lived in 352 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,240 Lancaster where I live now. And it has many of my mentors 353 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,320 and friends gobies added into it for their for that bacteria 354 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,120 diversity. It has a bunch of Pennsylvania 355 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:34,600 far, a bunch of the farmers I shop with around here, Meg 356 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,560 Kombucha. So they will sell their kombucha 357 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,120 or their Scooby and I'll use it as a starter, that kind of 358 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:42,280 thing. So it has a lot of PA farms in 359 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,200 it as well and just countless commercial brands. 360 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,160 So I've made it a practice in the past of being like, oh, this 361 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,160 is a new brand and they have a plain kombucha, so I can use 362 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,080 this as my starter and inoculate that into the the general 363 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,840 diversity. So like I said, it's been going 364 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,840 for 10 years and it's, you know, full of really good yeast and 365 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,320 really good bacteria. And so it was really neat for me 366 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,400 personally to be able to kind of, you know, put those out into 367 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,080 the world and, and get to see the dogs and cats of America 368 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,160 really benefiting from from those things. 369 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,000 And it's also kind of interesting for me because 370 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,920 they're just like what I consume on a daily basis anyway. 371 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,120 So it's weird that they're kind of like out there in stores. 372 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,200 Yeah. So that's really the story 373 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,560 behind each one of those cultures. 374 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,360 So tell me, I mean, I've listened to you talk about this, 375 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:38,600 but describe this process of removing the the food. 376 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,440 Like how do you get? Into the powder. 377 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,280 I think that's the hardest part for people to wrap their minds 378 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,680 around. And that was the reason why we 379 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,960 do retail training videos for stores. 380 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,120 And we had to like redo the whole video recently because 381 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:55,360 when we were coming out with us, we were figuring it out. 382 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,760 And you know, how do you explain this high level thing to have 383 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,200 part time pets or employee and so? 384 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,960 Or somebody like me like. Basically what happens is we we 385 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,200 take so I sent the cultures to the lab we work with. 386 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,000 So I grew out the kombucha. I don't know if this is 387 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,200 particularly relevant, but it was blueberry kombucha that 388 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,960 specific batch on that I sent because I make all different, 389 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,520 you know, every time I make kombucha a second fermented. 390 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,200 So the current one I have is pomegranate, like blueberry, 391 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,920 whatever, right? So take the culture and I sent 392 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,760 them to the lab. And what the lab does is first 393 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,800 they tested to make sure there's no pathogens in it and then they 394 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,360 check the probiotic content of those specific batches. 395 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:44,440 So it was actually kind of cool for me in the 1st place because 396 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,040 I got some like professional lab testing on my own yogurt 397 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,360 kombucha, right? So that was pretty cool. 398 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,680 Just generally, so because I'm a nerd and think about, oh, I'm 399 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,920 getting this many probiotics for this, you know, for myself every 400 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,680 day or for Huckleberry, whatever. 401 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,400 And so we send those to a lab. And what that lab does is they 402 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:11,000 take those bacteria, they take that culture and they grow it in 403 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,880 a different medium. So those bacteria, I'll just 404 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,000 take fun. So those bacteria, those 405 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,520 probiotics in yeast normally eat the milk. 406 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,240 Sugar is in the milk, and then you have the milk itself. 407 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,760 So you can take that entire culture, all those bacteria, and 408 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,720 you can put them in a different environment. 409 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,680 So you can put them in, say, a sugar environment and they'll 410 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,960 eat the sugar the same way and they'll digest it completely and 411 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,000 they'll grow in exactly the same way. 412 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,120 So it's essentially like you're taking these bacteria. 413 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,640 But the difference there is normally when you make a 414 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,400 probiotic, you would tell the lab like, oh, we want these 10 415 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,280 strains and we want this amount of them. 416 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,520 But in this case, they just took the whole culture and then let 417 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,000 it grow for what it was going to do for that, like see culture. 418 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,640 So it's just the bacteria in the new medium. 419 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,840 The only thing that's in it is artichoke fiber, organic 420 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,080 artichoke fiber, which is the prebiotic in there and it's less 421 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,320 than a gram. So I don't even throw anything 422 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,240 off, you know, energetically or anything like that. 423 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,920 So, you know, people might want to think about like you're, 424 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,480 you're essentially like straining the food out and then 425 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,360 you just using the bacteria and then growing them in a new 426 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:28,440 environment. It's kind of similar to, you 427 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,840 know, we tested out if you could ferment our raw milk with these 428 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,760 and you can't. It's kind of a similar thing. 429 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,840 I mean, you're taking, if you took soil and wanted to ferment 430 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,600 our raw goat smoke with it, you would be taking bacteria that 431 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,840 usually feed on the fiber in plants and you're putting it 432 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,000 into milk and now they're going to feed on like lactose sugars. 433 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,240 So it's kind of a similar thing and you're just taking the food 434 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,360 away from it. So it's just the bacteria in 435 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:03,400 yeast. And the really cool thing is, so 436 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,160 let's say you go like, I like soil, soil, soil is the one I'm 437 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,120 going to use. I recommend rotating between 438 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:10,560 them. But if you were going to say 439 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,600 just use soil, when the lab makes a new batch of that, 440 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,680 they're just, they take the seed culture and they're just growing 441 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,840 out the whole culture. So every time they grow it out, 442 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,200 it'll grow out in different ways because it's not 100% 443 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,840 predictable. So essentially what'll happen is 444 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,160 you'll get the same bacteria, the same probiotics, but you'll 445 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,120 get them a different amount. So it's kind of like rotating 446 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,480 supplements without even having to rotate a supplement. 447 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:40,440 So that was actually one of my questions. 448 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,920 Well, I'm getting my feedback again. 449 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,160 So many products out there, people, companies are 450 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:54,120 intentional about making sure that every single pill or bottle 451 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:57,000 has exactly what they say it has in it. 452 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,600 And you're saying, no, we don't necessarily want to do that, 453 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,240 right? We want there to be variants. 454 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,720 We want there to be estimated amounts of things because that's 455 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:14,760 what you get in fermented foods. Like when you feed your dog raw 456 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,800 milk, you're not getting like, there's these probiotics. 457 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,320 No, it's totally dependent on the the environment, the farm, 458 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,280 the time of year. Does that goat like, you know, 459 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,000 going outside more? Does it like eating hay more? 460 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:30,160 By the way, PSA, goats like hay more than grass. 461 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,640 I'm just throwing that out there because it's a misconception. 462 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,000 Whenever we take people to the farm, the goats are inside most 463 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,400 of the time because goats are. It's kind of hilarious. 464 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,840 I was talking to one of our goat farmers and he's like, yeah, 465 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,520 this is a total tangent, but I think it's relevant. 466 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,880 He's like, yeah, you know, they don't really like when they 467 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,560 like, they don't really like when it's raining or when it's 468 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,840 too sunny or too hot. He's like, they don't really 469 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,680 like much of anything. So. 470 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:03,560 And I would kind of because it's kind of funny because they'll be 471 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,840 like this beautiful day and they're. 472 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,240 And keep in mind the barns that we have are total open sided, 473 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,480 you know, but they're just hanging out inside. 474 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,760 And and because I think people, people ask me all the time, 475 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,640 like, Oh, is your goat smell, You know, is a grass fed? 476 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,440 It is. And they do go outside and eat 477 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,560 grass, but they're not like cows. 478 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,640 They don't just graze right? And they actually like, Hey, 479 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,760 which spoiler is grass better? So that's my weird tangent for 480 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,160 the day. Because every time we take 481 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,560 pictures of goats inside, people are like, why aren't they 482 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,360 outside? Because they don't want to be. 483 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:40,920 And we just let them go wherever they want to, but I digress. 484 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,080 So we, we want that variance. And that's why this is that's 485 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,840 why we're also looking at this clinical research that we're 486 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,080 going to be doing because we want to see what does this do in 487 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,480 the gut. And we also want to see what 488 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,160 does this do for the pet itself. And I won't elaborate that on 489 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,640 that too much because that will be coming out honestly in the 490 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,000 near future. It doesn't take that long to to 491 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,760 do these things, but because that's the most important thing 492 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,560 is how does it make your pet healthier? 493 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:15,360 And so going back to the potency thing, I think the other thing 494 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,880 that this does is it concentrates nature or the 495 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,920 natural existing probiotics, because when they're found in 496 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,400 their, when they're found like in food, in nature, they're in a 497 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,760 lot of moisture. So they're diluted through that 498 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,240 moisture content, like raw milk doesn't have a ton of potency, 499 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,160 doesn't have a ton of amount of probiotics, but it has a ton of 500 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,240 diversity of species. And so that's this concentrates 501 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,600 that to some degree. So like that little bottle, a 30 502 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,000 gram bottle of leaf has as many probiotics as a gallon and a 503 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,120 half kombucha because you're taking the moisture content out 504 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,040 of it. And that's where when you go 505 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,760 back to my, I speculate that that's where, you know, when you 506 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,440 go back to that case study I was talking about, I think it 507 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,800 probably worked that quickly because of the concentration of 508 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,560 those of those bacteria in there. 509 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,520 So it, it sort of does that. The other great use would be 510 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,600 there's a lot of animals that don't do well with fermentation. 511 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,440 There are some that there are a lot that do. 512 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,760 There are some that don't. I know a lot of I know a lot of 513 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,520 really great people I work with and respect, you included, who 514 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,960 do health consultations and you work with people on what their 515 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,400 animals should be eating. And, you know, having gone on 516 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,440 tour this year with Rita Hogan and I don't know, I, I kind of 517 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,720 struggled with her name there, which is fitting because if she 518 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,800 watches this, she always pronounces my name wrong. 519 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,840 So I'm going to see her on Friday. 520 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,280 We have an event on Friday. So, so I'm going to make fun of 521 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,560 her. I've been meaning to make fun 522 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,280 for that, but so I totally just lost picture. 523 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,160 So not every animal can do fermented foods. 524 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,520 And so this is a great way to be like these. 525 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,840 This is the bacteria from fermented foods are so 526 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,480 beneficial, but it's just the bacteria. 527 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,960 And then the other I think the coolest thing I've learned on 528 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,640 that tour is about food energetics. 529 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,320 I don't know, I'm like, I mean, Kelly would tell you I'm like 530 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600 all science for the most part. I've I've been better at this 531 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:11,320 now, but I'm all amino acids and that nutrients and I'm not, you 532 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,200 know, I'm not the expert on warming and cooling And you 533 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,800 know, I look to my friends who are experts. 534 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,800 You know, I look to Judy Morgan, I look to Rita, I look to, you 535 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,840 know, those are the people I go to. 536 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,680 So we're learning a lot more from Rita. 537 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,800 And I think that was, I didn't even think about this when we 538 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,800 made it. But I think the coolest part 539 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,280 about this is all of these foods in their native state have 540 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,160 energetics attached to them. They might be warming, they 541 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,400 might be neutral, it might be cooling. 542 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,880 These are nothing. These bacteria are warming, 543 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,360 cooling, orange, They're nothing. 544 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,080 And so now if you're working with someone who needs, say, 545 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:53,400 cooling foods, but what really benefit from the probiotics in 546 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,560 raw fermented dairy, you can use these as you know, it helps 547 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,440 there. But I don't think your animal 548 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,600 needs to, you know, not be able to do something to use these. 549 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,760 I'm going to use them every day I have been using them. 550 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:15,440 And so I think the other thing that people can do as well as if 551 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,800 they have something that works really well, they can rotate 552 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,360 with that too. If they do a probiotic that 553 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,280 works for them. Great. 554 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,760 So you could eat, you could rotate with that, or you could 555 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,840 use them together because ours is high diversity, low potency. 556 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,920 It's just food. It's just food based, right? 557 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,800 And so there's nothing that says you can't use one in the morning 558 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,480 or 1:00 at night to be able to do that. 559 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,080 I mean, it's kind of like what we do. 560 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:42,000 And Kelly says this the best way when she talks about who should 561 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,080 use what. Like we have these like 562 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,360 parameters like, oh, farm is great for immunity because it's 563 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,840 raw milk based, right? Leaf is, is really good for 564 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,720 yeast issues because it has all these native species of happy 565 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,600 yeast that cannot crud out bad yeast. 566 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,400 And then you say like soil is really good for, you know, 567 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,040 allergies, general diversity, that kind of thing. 568 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,080 But it's like deciding between like, do I, which one do I want 569 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,080 to pick specifically? Do I want to drink lucha? 570 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Do I want to do I want to eat yogurt? 571 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,240 Don't want to eat for fermented vegetables? 572 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,360 No, you should probably do all those things. 573 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,280 And so it, you know, either rotating between the however 574 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,680 people want to rotate I think is the best way to go. 575 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,320 But I think really the proof is in the pudding. 576 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,640 I think just try it. If it works, great. 577 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,200 Yeah, I've, I'm not shy about posting on social media that I, 578 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,280 I use a lot of green juju products myself. 579 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:44,200 Like on me, I've used the the veggie blends and my smoothies 580 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,400 when I have been too lazy to go to the store and buy fresh 581 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,560 veggies. And I drink the milk all the 582 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,360 time. And it's interesting that 583 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,280 you're, you're like, you prefer cow's milk. 584 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,720 And for a long time I did too. And I'm actually starting to 585 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,680 prefer the goat's milk, which is interesting to me. 586 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,760 But I can see myself using these probiotics as well. 587 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,960 And I know what you're going to say. 588 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,400 You're going to say these products are made for dogs and 589 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,480 cats. And I cannot condone you using 590 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,760 these products, but I do and they're wonderful. 591 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,120 And this is my podcast, so I can say it. 592 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,440 That's true. I do agree with your statement. 593 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,400 I don't, you know, we make everything for dogs and cats. 594 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,600 I do think that anything. I do think that honestly, the 595 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,680 these probiotics are the most relatable to people, right? 596 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,120 Because they're food and they're they're food based. 597 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,320 And we took traditional foods that humans have been making for 598 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:46,080 a very long time and made them into a probiotic supplement. 599 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,240 And so I don't really see any reason why that would be up to 600 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,200 without getting totally into that with humans as well. 601 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,080 And that's the thing about Green Juju. 602 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,560 I mean, although we, we do sell for pets, everything we do is of 603 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,880 the highest quality we can do. And you know, that just comes 604 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,880 back from what I originally joined Green Juju. 605 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,600 That's how Kelly's always done. And I've actually been there for 606 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:12,920 years as of this month, which is crazy, but it's been really fun 607 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,560 to do that. And I don't think Antoine would 608 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,560 kill me for saying this, but hopefully he does that because 609 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,560 I'm not going to tell you anything about it, but there 610 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,719 could be something new coming very soon. 611 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,520 There's always something new coming very soon that you can't 612 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,960 talk about. I don't like always. 613 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:32,480 That's very, that's very true. So there could be, I'm just 614 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,400 saying there might be. There's, there's, there's a good 615 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,719 possibility of it and I'm excited about it. 616 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,480 I think it'll be really cool. And yeah, we don't rest. 617 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,800 We don't, we always take things and travel and, and you know, 618 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,080 that's how we live our lives and here we are. 619 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,800 And I think people forget too. There's like 4 full time 620 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,400 employees at Green Juju. Yeah, you do. 621 00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,040 You do bring that up. But it's impressive for what you 622 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,200 guys do. It's really impressive to have 623 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:10,160 such a small team for the huge impact that you're making well 624 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,040 and for the people to watch. None of those people are the 625 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,800 people behind me that keep walking by because this is a Co 626 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,320 working space so I don't work with any of you. 627 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,120 Looks like a very fancy. I don't know these people. 628 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,760 Yeah, it does. It does. 629 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,160 So OK, the probiotics. Yeah, I, I would agree. 630 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,800 Like rotating is, is probably going to be your best bet. 631 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,520 But like you said, they kind of naturally rotate anyway, the way 632 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,760 that you're, the way that they're growing and the way 633 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,520 they're, which is really cool. I yeah, I'm really excited to 634 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,680 start using these and my consultations as well. 635 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,200 And then for my dog and then for me, and I don't know, maybe for 636 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,040 my cats if they'll take it. Which reminds me, that was 637 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,040 another question, like, what are you hearing as far as like 638 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,240 palatability? How are How are animals 639 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,360 responding? Palatability is great because 640 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,560 it's it's a very fine white powder that basically like 641 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,640 dissolves into whatever you're doing it like. 642 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,520 So hard to travel through TSA with. 643 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,760 Baby, I haven't tried it yet, but like the like the taste of 644 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,640 it is like just slightly sweet nothing and I don't think we've 645 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,680 had any animal that that really has even noticed what it is. 646 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,280 I, I, the way that I feed it to hug, like, you know, I'm sort of 647 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,040 anal about these things, but the way that I feed it to 648 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,760 huckleberry is I essentially like, like there's a scoop in 649 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,200 it. So it comes with a scoop and the 650 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,640 directions are just scoop per weight or whatever. 651 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,440 And so I just take the scoop and kind of like lightly tap it into 652 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,680 his milk and it just dissolves as it hits the, and that's 653 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,400 pretty much it. But I'm also like, I don't want 654 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,680 the clump in there or whatever. You know, you'd still probably 655 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,520 eat it just fine, but that's just who I am. 656 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,440 So, you know, I just do the tap in there and then it dissolves 657 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,960 in there. Or you could put it like on our, 658 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,520 our veggie blends or something like that, you know, in between 659 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,280 them or something. I think the only reason that I'm 660 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,560 not doing that is because I'm currently using PEA from Judy 661 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,000 Morgan and I put that between the veggie ones. 662 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,800 There's a lot of powder, but I'm excited to see I'm I've, we've, 663 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,560 we've reduced Taco berries allergies by almost 100%. 664 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,760 And so I was like, maybe this is the thing that, you know, I'm a 665 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,160 perfectionist, so maybe this is the kind of thing that can get 666 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,960 me there. But cats would benefit from this 667 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,800 greatly because they don't go outside at all. 668 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,240 So I would start with soil and then with a lot of animals that 669 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:52,760 have digestive issues, just generally I would start with 670 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,560 soil and do that for like 4 weeks, which will be like 671 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,960 basically one of a jar will last as the dog zero to 30 lbs for 672 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,760 two months and then 30 to 60 lbs one month. 673 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,720 So I would do like 4 weeks on. I got to plug my computer in. 674 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,560 I'm a, I'm a real professional here. 675 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,040 I. Don't feel like. 676 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,760 Battery. Thank you for taking me so 677 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,240 seriously, I appreciate you so much. 678 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:20,280 So I I do this during meetings. Thank goodness this is a 679 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,960 recording. I'm going to leave this in just 680 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,680 so people get an idea of how you treat me. 681 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,880 So going back to cats, I don't lose my train of thought, you 682 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,040 know, they're inside all the time, which we love them and it 683 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,680 it protects them, but it's just not good for their microbiome. 684 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,600 And so or the other thing that I feel like I would really want to 685 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,600 mention and this is kind of like a hot button issue and I kind of 686 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,960 want to give a new take on it is a fecal transplant. 687 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:53,280 So. Yeah. 688 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,640 Transplant, they are great. They work right. 689 00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:59,960 However, I think that our probiotics are specifically 690 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:06,200 suited to use long term after fecal transplant because 691 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,760 basically at least what you see. And I've actually had meetings 692 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,680 with some people that work in fecal transplants and I've asked 693 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,440 them this question. I haven't got a super good 694 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,880 answer on it, which is like, OK, you do the fecal transplant, you 695 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,400 fix the gut, right? Then what happens a month later 696 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,760 or two months later, right? Because that happened because of 697 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,160 the environment, because of the food, because of all these 698 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,640 different like factors. And the story that I bring up 699 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,680 when someone says this is there was a guy who was actually 700 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,400 living with a tribe in Africa who were like hunter gatherers. 701 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,680 And they would eat like hundreds of different types of plants. 702 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,640 And because of that, they had these like amazingly diverse 703 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,920 microbiomes. And so this guy lived with them 704 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,040 and got this amazingly diverse microbiome, and then he went 705 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,920 back to America and it was gone like within a month. 706 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,440 Got sick? Because he ate food here he 707 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,080 lived here he you know, all all bacteria is ubiquitous bacteria 708 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:08,160 is you know everyone you share a home with pet or person, you're 709 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,360 sharing bacteria. So I think that fecal 710 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,280 transplants can be great. Let's re establish the gut. 711 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,760 Let's reset the gut and then I think the problem that a lot of 712 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,480 the. The the advocates for those have 713 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,720 is, well, once we reset the gut, we don't want to monoculture the 714 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,400 gut with just these 15 different bacteria or do a bunch of these 715 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,080 potent bacteria. And that's not what we're doing, 716 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,720 right. We're having all of these 717 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:35,240 bacteria that they would get from naturally eating foods 718 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:39,240 anyway in a concentrated amount. So I think that these are the 719 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:43,560 perfect thing if you do a fecal transplant to then move on to 720 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,360 rotating between all of our probiotics to get all of those 721 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,840 thousands of different cultures on a continual basis. 722 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,720 It's funny that you brought that up because I'm actually right 723 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:59,840 now waiting for some FMT capsules for Kim. 724 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,000 And that is exactly what I was going to do was do the month of 725 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:11,520 of FMT and start her on. I hadn't decided yet which one, 726 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,880 the soil or farm or leaf. I hadn't decided. 727 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,440 I'm going to have to go back and like remember everything you 728 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,000 just told me to make a decision on which one to start her on. 729 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,480 But like, that's my plan with her. 730 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,640 As well, I would start with soil. 731 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,280 You could do whatever you want, but this is my recommendation. 732 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,160 I would start with soil you. Can do whatever I want. 733 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,000 Thank you for permission though. And then I would go to farm and 734 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,000 I would go to leaf and I'll just rotate through those. 735 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,040 People rotate however they want. Like some people like to do a 736 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:46,120 different, like when they do food I feed like bison, then I 737 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,120 go to beef, I do the whole bag. Then I go to beef, I do the 738 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,520 whole bag. Some people like to do different 739 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,400 protein every day, etcetera. So people can rotate these 740 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,200 probiotics however they want, right? 741 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,840 They can do a different one every day, different meal. 742 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,480 They can do 1 bottle and then move to the next bottle. 743 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,560 You know, however people want to do it is totally fine. 744 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,840 But you know, and they go great with other probiotics. 745 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:13,040 I mean, 36% of my dog's diet is raw milk and so he gets a lot of 746 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,480 probiotics from that as well, but he's also getting them from 747 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,800 this, right? And so. 748 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,720 Yeah, yeah. I have no idea the percentage of 749 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:27,000 my dog's diet that is green jujus raw goats milk, but it is 750 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,840 there. But I appreciate that you know 751 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:34,760 the exact percentage. It's 36, it's 14%, one whole egg 752 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,880 and then 50% of our food. That's his base. 753 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,640 And then I can, you know, do the veggie blends, that stuff 754 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,200 doesn't really add calories, right? 755 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,120 Bone broth, it's just marginal. So it's 5036 and 14, that's it. 756 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,320 So 50% of his diet is eggs and fried eggs and and raw elf. 757 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,760 Bringing up the veggie blends really quickly before you go 758 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,000 because I know your time is limited because you are so 759 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,520 important and everybody loves you. 760 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:07,480 Not everybody, but yeah. The last time you were on, we 761 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,080 talked about the new Vitality blend. 762 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,440 How's that? How's that going? 763 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:16,200 How's that being received? Really well to the so much so as 764 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,600 far as like the digestive results we've gotten back that 765 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,120 we just did doctor Keith and Kelly and I were just in Seattle 766 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:28,280 and we did kind of a round table and we're, we were making health 767 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,320 protocols for our vet program. And so vets can have our idea of 768 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,480 what, you know, is a supportive diet for Axe condition, be it 769 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,320 kidney disease, you know, cancer, whatever. 770 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,040 And we specifically included that as the starter for our 771 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,360 digestive support diet and doing that for four weeks and then 772 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,000 moving to some rotation there. But it's, we find we've found 773 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,680 through feedback that the not only the fiber part of it, but 774 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,560 the purple cabbage as well-being, one of the main 775 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,160 ingredients has really helped, I think with digestive lining as 776 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,200 well. And it's kind of both of those 777 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,040 things, right? Like one of the reasons I feel 778 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,720 like I fixed huckleberries rogue milk intolerance was the fact 779 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:13,840 that, you know, I feed him the freeze dried food and I 780 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,840 rehydrate it with at least double the amount of bone broth. 781 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,480 So he's getting a lot of bone broth per day. 782 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,360 And I do think that that really helped to kind of like heal his 783 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,360 gut and help those bacteria that because people don't realize 784 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,440 that if you are intolerant to even raw milk, that you can kind 785 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,720 of rebuild your, your gut microbiome to be able to process 786 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:36,480 lactose and those things. And so I think that's what 787 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,440 happened. But I think that Vitality blend 788 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,960 really helps them in the same way. 789 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,720 And I will call out, we don't really call it out that much, 790 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:50,240 but it does actually ferment like Bailey's blend too in my 791 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:51,960 house. And so it does work. 792 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,320 So there's always experiments going on. 793 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,520 There's currently outside of my normal ferment, so it's it's too 794 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,920 much probably for one kitchen, but here we are. 795 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,280 So Vitality blend does work in the same way. 796 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,960 For those that like to ferment the Bailey's blend, you can 797 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,680 ferment the Vitality blend as well. 798 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,560 Nice. Oh, probiotics are out. 799 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,360 They can go to their indie pet store. 800 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,600 They can ask for them if they're not already there, right? 801 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,560 And they can order. They can order. 802 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,440 On the yeah, there's a couple things you can order. 803 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,440 You can order them from our website too, but they will cost 804 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,640 you more money because you'll you'll be paying shipping. 805 00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:32,200 But if you can't find them because I go to your indie 806 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,000 retailer first, we just get enough people who are like, I 807 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,600 don't have one near me, etcetera. 808 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,440 So those people, they are available now to there. 809 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,160 But it's good to spend your money locally and with your with 810 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,160 your local pet store. And also you just get the best 811 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,560 deal. So that helps as well. 812 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,120 And you can get other fun stuff. I encourage people while you're 813 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,880 buying your granges, you buy dog toys and fun stuff for your dog 814 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,240 as well because they like it and that really benefits the store 815 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,800 as far as their sales go. So I let Maple, my daughter, 816 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,800 take out all of Huckleberry's dog toys now. 817 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,000 So that's her job. She's pretty good at it. 818 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,960 So I'm. Sorry, you're telling me, you're 819 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,960 telling me that a little girl, a woman going to be a woman, is 820 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,200 good at shopping? That's what you're telling me 821 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,240 already. Although she is like, there was, 822 00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:25,520 she did something yesterday that was like, and I was like, oh, 823 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,680 you're my daughter. So she wants to do a lemonade 824 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,560 stand and make money. And the first thing she did to 825 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,640 figure out the lemonade stand and she's 4. 826 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,160 She just turned 4. She made a graph that showed how 827 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,480 many drinks people would need based on the weather outside. 828 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,480 Wow, so sunny day waste or lemonade? 829 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,040 That's amazing. That's AI mean that's a lot of 830 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,520 liquid. Like me in a lot of ways, which 831 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,800 is good and bad. So mostly bad. 832 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,720 All right, Billy, thank you so much for coming back on talking 833 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:04,200 about these probiotics. Yeah, I'm just really excited 834 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,640 for them, really excited to hear because you're always, always 835 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,000 like, yeah, we're working on something and I can't tell you 836 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,080 what it is. So next time we'll have we'll 837 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,200 have you back on for whatever that is. 838 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,120 Well, if it if nothing does come to fruition, you will know soon 839 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,320 so. Yeah. 840 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,920 The world, the world will know soon. 841 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,360 I appreciate it. By the way, if anyone wants to 842 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,800 has any other questions, if you just reach out to 843 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,320 info@greenjuju.com. I answer all the nutrition 844 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,480 questions that come in to Green Juju so I'm happy to help anyone 845 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,480 at any time. Just let me know what I can do. 846 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,280 I'm just going to start emailing you all kinds of questions. 847 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,720 Yeah, that'd be great. I'll be like, this is the first 848 00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:50,120 one that I'll be like, I didn't get your e-mail. 849 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,000 I don't know what I'm talking about. 850 00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:54,560 I have no idea. So no idea, my gosh, she's going 851 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,320 to block my e-mail now. All right, Thanks so much, 852 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,080 Billy. I appreciate you guys. 853 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,760 Please have a great rest of your week. 854 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,960 Give your pets some extra love from me and Billy this week, and 855 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,920 I'm sure we'll have him on again soon. 856 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:07,480 Bye.