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How are you guys? 
Hello, everybody. 

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Yeah, it's really dark outside. 
We're actually getting snow 

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right now. 
There's snowing right outside my

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door, my window. 
Yes, it's not sticking. 

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It's definitely more than 
flurries, but it's not sticking.

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But yeah, in El Paso, TX, we're 
getting snow today. 

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The Northeast El Paso area, I'm 
in the on the West side. 

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The Northeast El Paso has a lot,
actually. 

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We live right by the mountains, 
so the mountains kind of block 

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us a little bit from anywhere 
really. 

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We we, we really don't get a lot
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sunshine, which is why my office
is set up for some sunny days. 

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Yeah, Oh my God, today. 
It's like I have an overhead 

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light on. 
I have my. 

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Spring Light. 
My ring light. 

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On Yeah. 
And it's just so dark outside. 

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Yeah, it's we're getting a storm
coming through as well and it's 

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just barely started to rain. 
But the barometric pressure has 

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already gotten. 
Kim is just. 

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I can't with her already. 
My husband's supposed to be 

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walking the dogs right now 
because I didn't get to walk 

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them this morning. 
I usually walk them in the 

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afternoon in the winter because 
it's chillier and I like the 

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warmer part of the day to walk. 
But yeah, I mean, there's some. 

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You're going to get snow then. 
I don't. 

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Where you are, I think we are. 
I don't think we. 

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Dallas is supposed to get right.
Dallas is supposed to get. 

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No, I don't know. 
Yeah, Dallas is supposed to get 

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snow. 
I know Atlanta's supposed to get

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snow. 
It's, I mean, a lot of places 

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are supposed to be getting. 
I've seen snow in like 

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Pennsylvania, Virginia, like 
that area. 

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Yeah. 
I. 

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LLPJ, OK. 
I'm excited. 

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Yeah. 
Actually, I would like to get 

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this over with because I've had 
so much anxiety over this 

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because I gave you incorrect 
information on Monday. 

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And I hate, I hate. 
I beat myself up more than 

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anybody else ever could. 
Who was that? 

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That said, oh, Whispering Hills 
Homestead says it's been snowing

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for four days in Vermont. 
I've seen that too with magical 

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nuts, Michelle. 
But OK, so here's here's what 

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happened. 
I was wrong. 

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I was wrong. 
And I, I, as much as I hate 

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being wrong, the point is to get
you the correct information. 

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And so I always want to do that.
And what happened, what had 

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happened was I went down so 
many, so many rabbit holes for 

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this bird flu thing that I 
actually, I, I went to the CD CS

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website and it says, and I 
quote. 

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Based on the limited research 
and information available, we do

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not know at this time if AB and 
influenza A viruses can be 

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transmitted to people through 
consumption of raw milk and 

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products such as cheese made 
from raw milk and infected cows.

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I ran with it and I was like, 
OK, Nope, it's not, it's not 

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happening. 
Well, a friend reached out to me

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and said, Are you sure? 
Because I found the opposite. 

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And so I had to go down the 
rabbit hole again. 

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And here's the thing. 
Now, currently, even though that

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is still up on the CD CS website
and I'm linking to it in a new 

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blog post that I'm writing, that
is still up on the website for 

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the CDC. 
On other pages of the website 

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for the CDC, it does say that 
they have one confirmed human 

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infection with a person with 
exposure to dairy cows. 

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That's still a little. 
Like dairy cows or raw dairy? 

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Milk, right? 
That's where I'm like, I don't 

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know. 
However, there were roughly 30 

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cats on a Texas farm in the 
Panhandle that got sick that 

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tested positive for H5 N one 
after drinking raw milk from 

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cows that tested positive for H5
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So the conclusion was I think 16
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passing away and they passed 
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It took them apparently it took 
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conclude that they died from H5 
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cows. 
However, again and I won't be on

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the rabbit hole because the farm
itself in Texas, the dairy farm,

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they are not. 
They have not released what 

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farm. 
This is because I wanted to go 

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and look and see what other 
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that farm. 
But what I did find is that many

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local Texas news outlets, I 
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outlets, but Texas news outlets 
were confirming that they found 

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many wild dead birds on the prop
same property that were tested 

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positive for H5 N 1. 
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that these cats died from 
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cows, I'm not personally. 
I just want to bring you the 

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information. 
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because they also had access to 
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that were found dead on the 
property that worked that tested

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positive for the same virus. 
So that's where I'm at with it. 

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I'm just going to say that I was
wrong because it does appear 

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that cows infected with H5 N one
do pass on the virus and the raw

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milk. 
However, the research in because

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right now it is actually 
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So the this subtype of the 
influenza A virus seems to have 

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mutated a little bit to be able 
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And my question that I have not 
found anybody answering yet is 

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we know that the the subtype 
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highly, highly pathogenic for 
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Is the subtype that now is being
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infectious for cats? 
I don't know. 

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Does that make sense? 
Am I making sense with my train 

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of thought here? 
So according to a VMACDC, the 

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media, like according to all of 
them, they are saying, yes, raw 

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milk infected with H5 N 1 is 
contagious like you can, cats 

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are cats and possibly humans are
able to be infected. 

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I just haven't found any 
conclusive evidence that that is

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true. 
I'm just saying that this is 

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what they're telling us. 
So I think it's still like we're

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still going to have to stay on 
top of this and figure it out 

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for ourselves, in my opinion. 
But those are the facts as I 

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thought. 
OK, so you took a stand the 

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other day where you are not 
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So does this information inspire
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No, I'm not convinced. 
Now my cats don't drink Dairy 

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Milk, right? 
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I might. 
Yes, I probably would be a 

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little bit more concerned 
because of the fatality rate in 

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cats. 
I would still be comfortable 

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drinking the raw cow's milk. 
I don't think that I would give 

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it to cats, though. 
That's where I'm, yeah, that's 

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where I would. 
I'm not changing anything 

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because I they don't get it and 
I think most cats don't. 

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But on a farm, cats mind. 
So yeah, I probably would try to

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keep the cats away if unless 
you're confident. 

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I mean, again, we talked about 
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confident in your sourcing. 
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if you're purchasing directly 
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confident in their sourcing and 
you've talked to them about, you

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know, the steps they're taking, 
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and you feel confident, by all 
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doing. 
If you don't feel confident with

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it, you don't even know where 
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no, I I don't think I would be 
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OK. 
As she said, chips raw milk. 

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Yes, so I, yes, as I drink my 
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drinking raw milk. 
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most of what we talked about was
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with raw poultry and with cats 
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I am still, I'm concerned like 
I, I don't believe with, I don't

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think there's a whole lot of 
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commercial raw foods have caused
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have been two recalls. 
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recall with Northwest Naturals, 
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Agriculture did not do what they
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I don't trust. 
That one, yeah, The second one 

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being that it was like a mom and
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It kind of, I mean probably a 
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being sold in farmers markets in
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It's not a national brand. 
I don't know anything about that

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company. 
I don't know their packaging, 

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their processing, their 
sourcing. 

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That may be, may be I don't 
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And I bring that up because 
there was, there is a second 

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report saying why do I have 
balloons on this? 

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There's a second report out of 
LA County's that that is saying 

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that raw milk is a contributing 
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County who worked who tested 
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Everything that I am finding so 
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in the household with the cat 
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pet food recall. 
So I'm not sure how they're 

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saying that it was from in one. 
In one area they're saying it 

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was from the raw poultry and in 
the, and then the other report 

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they're saying it's from the raw
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And from everything I can find, 
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about the same for cats. 
If I'm wrong about that, 

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somebody please tell me that I 
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searched and searched and I 
think these are the same for 

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cats. 
So I'm not sure how they're 

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saying it's from both of these 
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I don't know. 
So I'm just, I just want to give

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you the, the information that I 
actually have found and tell you

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that, you know, I, I very, I was
wrong in what the experts are 

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telling us. 
The experts are telling us that 

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it is pathogenic in raw milk. 
I'm just and it's not sure. 

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It's going to change like all of
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This is this is not a new 
outbreak. 

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But no. 
It's just what? 

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Well, it's because there's more.
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this when I was going down the 
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weeks on this. 
But then I saw Doctor Judy 

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Morgan this morning posted that 
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of function research on H5 N one
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mallards. 
So I went and I found and that 

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is there is a study that they 
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happen? 
And it appears to be true. 

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So the study came out in 2024. 
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when the gain of function 
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there is a possibility that that
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infectious at this point. 
So yeah, there there is. 

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And I put that in, I, I put that
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So I'm doing two different 
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I'm doing one just on raw 
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I'm doing another one just on 
raw dairy because I feel like 

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there's enough information to 
give them their own and 

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resources to give them their own
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So the one on raw pet food 
includes that link and I posted 

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that one today and I am 
currently working on the one for

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the raw dairy drink milk to get 
you all of the sources on that 

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one. 
So I was just beside myself and 

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full of anxiety for having 
provided incorrect information 

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and I needed to get the the 
correct information out. 

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Oh. 
My God, I did not know that you 

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were so flipped out or else we 
would have done this like 

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Tuesday. 
I needed some time to really go 

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through everything and make sure
that I was giving the correct, 

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what I feel is the correct 
information. 

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Well, that's the problem with 
these situations is that there's

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a lot of panic surrounding them 
and people are forcing the CDC 

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and this and that and the 
Department of Agriculture to 

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come up with answers. 
And so they give hypotheses and 

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then tomorrow it could be a 
different hypotheses. 

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So we have to stay informed. 
And obviously, we'll be 

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following you, Jessica and 
Doctor Judy Morgan and just kind

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of keeping an eye. 
I think like we talked about 

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Monday, the people who have to 
be really extra careful or 

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anybody who's feeding raw 
anything to cats, that's really 

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the like the the highest risk 
factor is for cats. 

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We talked about the way that the
virus works and how it affects 

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cats more than it does dogs, and
it proves fatal. 

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And what did you say? 
Like 99%. 

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It's I don't have a percentage 
on the cats everywhere I. 

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Like 100 somewhere. 
But then you just mentioned that

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16 out of the 20 died. 
So maybe, yeah, yeah. 

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So maybe not. 
It doesn't. 

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But still pretty. 
High, it's very high. 

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It's very like everywhere I look
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high incidence of fatality, like
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talked about, yes, it is 
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It's just so much more rare that
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anything but also remember that 
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Yes. 
Birds and stuff. 

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So it's not just your fancy cats
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your inside cats, that's. 
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of changes that are constantly 
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about a video that Doctor Connor
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a deep dive of the statistics 
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2024 basically. 
Hey, BC how are you doing? 

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I hope you're doing OK. 
I've been thinking about you 

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lately. 
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and showing that like the 
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wrong, it it makes no sense for 
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is up for you to decide. 
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beliefs that I don't necessarily
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up for you to decide as to why 
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And hopefully we hopefully we 
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So yeah, I, I would highly 
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Connor Brady's video in the blog
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the raw pet food portion of bird
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So I just put that in my stories
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of links in there for you to 
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found. 
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the raw dairy blog right now to 
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I'm not a big blog writer 
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were so many links to provide or
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this that I wanted to aggregate 
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best. 
Seemed to be the best way. 

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wild birds, especially migratory
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Chicken, if you have chickens 
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in an outdoor coop, they can be 
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the wild bird, the infected wild
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All that good stuff. 
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in your area, there's like, a 
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It's still snowing in El Paso. 
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Gross. 
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out anytime soon. 
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the patio so. 
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Cold for him. 
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safe and warm and cozy. 
That's where I want to be. 

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That's where I want to be too. 
That's where I want to be. 

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So guys, thank you for joining 
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It was just a quick update. 
Just obviously Jessica needed to

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get this off her chest. 
She was so wrong, so wrong, so 

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wrong. 
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Church, in Catholic Mass, we say
by my doing, my doing, my doing,

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that's what you're reminding me 
of. 

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You're reminding me of like a 
confessional in here. 

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It is like, I'm so sorry. 
I have, dear Father, I have 

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saved. 
I'm Catholic. 

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So this is all bringing me back 
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But you are fine, Jessica. 
Thank you for deep diving for 

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us. 
Thank you for taking this so 

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seriously and for, you know, 
just making sure that you keep 

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us all updated. 
I know this is your passion and 

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you're so knowledgeable, so we 
never hold it against you if you

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report something that is 
incorrect. 

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Well, and technically you were 
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One of your sources was so. 
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the CDC needs to get their act 
together and like on one web 

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page it says one thing, on one 
one web page it says something 

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totally different. 
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I just, I should have, I should 
have dug deep. 0 surprises there

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that the. 
Government would. 

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Not have it's all its ducks in a
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I guess pudding intended. 
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So yeah, well, thank you guys 
and if you're around in an hour 

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and a half, I'm going live for 
my episode of my podcast covered

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in pet hair. 
I'm transitioning to an all 

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live. 
Yes, Jessica is awesome and full

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of knowledge. 
Yes, she is. 

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I'm going to transition to a 
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It's a boozy show for pet 
lovers. 

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I'm interviewing 2 PR experts in
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We're going to talk about pet 
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What's hot, what's not that kind
of stuff. 

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So I'm going to go get a drink 
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to be cuddled up, I want to have
some like a hot toddy today. 

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So join me at 3:00 Mountain 
Standard Time for my show with 

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Mary Tan and Alexander Ricard 
from Whisker Media, the Whisker 

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Report and Saving lives. 
They're they're involved in 

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those three organizations. 
Awesome, that's so sweet of you 

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BC by the way, thank you so 
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I appreciate you and I hope 
you're doing well you and Kat. 

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And I'm just so appreciative 
that you guys didn't kill me 

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After Monday's episode. 
I'll repost. 

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I took down, I'm going to repost
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I'm still trying to figure out. 
I want to word it because I just

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don't believe it, but it is what
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Like I want to get you the best 
information about my bias, and I

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have so much bias. 
And you could say what they say,

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what I say, yeah. 
And you can let your reader 

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choose what they want to do. 
Yes, yes, All right, y'all have 

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a great weekend coming up. 
Thank. 

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You guys, we'll see you on 
Monday and if you have any 

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topics you want us to cover 
Monday, let us know. 

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Hopefully it won't be the same 
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Hopefully there won't be much 
going on to update you. 

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I know that all. 
Right. 

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Bye, guys.