1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,040 Welcome back pet parent. We are so excited this week as 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:09,040 we are every week, but this episode is extra special because 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,360 this happens to be our guest fifth time on the show. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,520 You guys love him so much and I'm just so excited to keep 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,080 bringing him back to you. He's such a wealth of knowledge 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,200 and the company he works for just keeps bringing us 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,040 incredible product after incredible product. 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,240 They're so innovative. They have already announced so 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,040 much this year, but we're going to be talking today to Billy 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:41,200 Hookman from Green Juju, and we're talking about their new 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,440 Vitality vegetable blend, which is so exciting for so many 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,360 reasons. So welcome, Billy. 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,960 First of all, let's get you on the show and have you join me 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,240 first. Well, thank you. 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,400 I actually had no idea was my fifth time. 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:01,120 So thank you for enduring me and my, you know overtime. 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,560 So appreciate that. Well, it is a big deal to me to 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,840 have somebody who cares enough to continue to come back and 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,440 speak to pet parents and help educate so we can continue to do 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,760 better for our pets. But Green Juju has, you guys 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,320 have just been putting out so many incredibly innovative 22 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:29,280 products lately. And I think going back to how 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,240 Green Juju all started with the vegetable blends, bringing in a 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,400 new blend with Vitality is something that needs to be 25 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,680 highlighted because it feels like Green Juju, like going back 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,800 to its roots. So I'd love for you to talk a 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,080 little bit. I have, I'd like to go over all 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,080 of the blends again just so we can kind of compare them all and 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,920 see how they all really work together. 30 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:57,320 But do you want to talk a little bit 1st about like, why bring a 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,600 new veggie blend to the market? What Gap did did you guys feel 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,960 like was there that you needed to create a new veggie blend 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,840 well? I feel like, you know, there's a 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,039 lot obviously that goes on behind the scenes and it's, it's 35 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:12,440 actually kind of funny because I'm going back to your earlier 36 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,200 point about, you know, coming out with a lot of stuff this 37 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,520 year. The plan this year was to 38 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,200 support stuff that we'd kind of already done, you know, maybe 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,240 maybe take some time off from new products, etcetera. 40 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,400 But then we get ideas and those ideas come and and we feel like 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,680 they have to be on the market. And so we don't like to rest 42 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,760 apparently at all. And I don't think we're done 43 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,760 this year, But that's a that's a discussion for a whole another 44 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,800 day. Going back to, you know, I just 45 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,720 lost. OK, that that's actually pretty 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,760 good for me. Usually I lost my lose my train 47 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,480 of thought like 14 times, not usually right at the beginning. 48 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,400 So that's pretty good for me. OK. 49 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,160 And then you know me, I go off on tangents, which then I lose 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,280 the original question, but I remember the original question. 51 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,280 So going back behind the scenes, I feel like since I'll actually 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,760 have been in Green Juju for four years coming up on in June, and 53 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,040 I feel like this idea of a fourth blend has been kicking 54 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,240 around for a long time. And I feel like it's been 55 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,800 kicking around because, you know, Kelly did such an 56 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,560 incredible job developing those first blends and felt like there 57 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,960 was something there to to sort of round out those blends. 58 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,040 But we wanted the right idea to be able to do that. 59 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,560 We wanted to be able to, you know, I find, and I would say 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,280 this is true of anyone who works in in nutrition and product 61 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,840 development, you just evolve so much over time. 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,760 And I feel like with with this and the blends, we got to the 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,040 right idea and then it's a new thing. 64 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,600 But then we went back to what Kelly had been doing in the 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,440 beginning. And it was such an interesting 66 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,480 thing to watch her not only go through like the formulation on 67 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,960 this, because this is her. This is her jam. 68 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,680 This is how she this is, you know, something she invented. 69 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,960 This is something, this concept, this is something she was doing 70 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,760 education on long before I was there. 71 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,320 And so I was just excited as someone who works for her to 72 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,160 watch the process and, and to go through that. 73 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:16,279 And so the idea came from, I hope I don't get this wrong 74 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,160 because I'm not the one who made it, but the idea comes from 75 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,560 evolving into this concept we've done of a different color and 76 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,400 different color antioxidant subsets. 77 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,080 And pink and purple foods have such powerful antioxidant 78 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,800 combinations that we thought it was different enough from the 79 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,280 other blends. I think they all, and that's 80 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:37,440 something we talked about, they all do something synergistically 81 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,840 together, I feel like, and provide enough diversity of 82 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:43,640 foods together. But you want what each one of 83 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,800 these things to, to have its own base. 84 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,040 And so with this one, you have not only those pink and purple 85 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,680 blends, but sorry, fruits and vegetables, but you also have 86 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,880 Venice and bone broth. So I think it was kind of a cool 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,720 concept too. And one of the reasons it's 88 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,920 called Vitality is because it's kind of a warming blend 89 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,160 depending on your dog. And, and I got to tell you, I've 90 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,600 been learning so much about this since I started going on tour 91 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,880 with Rita. Just, you know, we did our first 92 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,280 3 events, we're doing stuff throughout the year and just 93 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:15,400 learning so much more. I already took stuff back from 94 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,720 my own dog in order to kind of tweak some of these things 95 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,200 because I've been out here before. 96 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,760 I'm all numbers, math and and science, and so the energy part 97 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,400 of feeding and that kind of thing has always eluded me to 98 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,680 some degree. But I'm learning more from Kelly 99 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,960 and and Rita and some of some, you know, other people who, who 100 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,680 I've become close with. And so I really think this is a 101 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,200 good. I think a lot of times we focus 102 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,560 on cooling because we assume so many dogs are warm, but I 103 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,760 actually have a cool dog. So he is, he is all of the, he 104 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,560 has all of the traditional markers for always under 105 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,240 blankets, always between your legs always. 106 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,240 And so, you know, in trying to incorporate more of those 107 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,200 things, I incorporate all the blends. 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,320 But having an option for those dogs I think is a really good 109 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,360 thing too. So to go back, Vitality is an 110 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,880 addition to just greens, Bailey's blend and the Golden 111 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,240 Blend. So just greens, I don't know. 112 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,560 Do you want to go through some of the fun things? 113 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,320 What do you like about each of these blends and how they kind 114 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,040 of like will put together? Well, my favorite, I would say, 115 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:33,800 I break them into kind of like 2 categories and that is the green 116 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,680 blends. And then that will be Golden 117 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,600 Blend and Vitality Blend because I think the Golden Blend and 118 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,680 Vitality Blend are in my opinion more specific in different ways 119 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,840 where in Bailey's blend and just greens are sort of a similar 120 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:51,520 concept, but you're achieving that concept in different ways. 121 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,600 So what I mean by that is say you are looking at just greens, 122 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,040 what you have there is you have high antioxidant foods, you have 123 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,760 your herb for detoxification. And so you're going to get a 124 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,680 different antioxidant set in that than you are Bailey's 125 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,000 blend. So at Bailey's blend, you might 126 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,120 get the sulfur compounds that are in broccoli, for example, 127 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,920 that are, you know, anti cancer and and do a myriad of other 128 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,360 things in just greens. You might you have kale and 129 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,560 dandelion greens, which you know, kale's going to be really 130 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,360 high, for instance, in beta carotene, which is precursor to 131 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,280 vitamin A. And so that's a really strong 132 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,840 antioxidant. And so with all these things 133 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,560 you're going to get, you know, in these green lens, you're 134 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,120 getting these, you're using plants for what they're supposed 135 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,520 to be used for, which is fiber, which is antioxidants, which is 136 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,880 vitamins and minerals. And they're also very, very low 137 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,040 in carbohydrates. And that's a super important 138 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,680 part of this because I really think it doesn't matter. 139 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,200 So whatever you feed your dog doesn't matter if it's if it's 140 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,880 kibble, doesn't matter if it's a combination, doesn't matter 141 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,120 whatever you're feeding your dog. 142 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,600 If you just reduce the carbohydrates as much as 143 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,120 possible, you'll get a better health outcome in the short term 144 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,120 and the long term, in my opinion. 145 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,680 Short term being quality of life generally and you know what, 146 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,680 avoiding disease conditions and then healthier aging as time 147 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,400 goes on. And So what I like, what I love 148 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,160 about both of these things is they fit into any diet, 149 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,640 including say like ketogenic diets or dogs. 150 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,440 You know that you're trying to reduce, say that you have a have 151 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,480 heavy yeast animal and you're trying to there's, there's many 152 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,840 different methods for getting over yeast. 153 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,320 But the one that I'm talking about is kind of the starve out 154 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,720 method, which which is actually, we had a dog on our feeding 155 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,000 trial that this were a frank bulldog that worked out really 156 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,120 well with this. And that's basically providing 157 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,360 almost no carbohydrates. And so that could you could 158 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,800 still use the green blends in conjunction with a diet like 159 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,920 that in order to get some of the other constituents that we know 160 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,680 they need. And so I think out of, I always 161 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:02,840 hate to take to have favorites, but I feel like out of the four, 162 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,800 those two are my favorites in my own personal use. 163 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,600 And then both of them having some of those, you know, smaller 164 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,320 amounts of those detoxifying foods and antioxidant foods like 165 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,240 turmeric and lemon and ginger. And I do think too, if you look 166 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:25,240 specifically at the parsley in just greens or the cilantro in 167 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,240 Bailey's blend, those are two of my kind of favorite herbs in 168 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,960 general that you use for cooking and they taste really good and 169 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,640 they smell really good. That's part of their antioxidant 170 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:37,680 content. That's part of. 171 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,840 Have to interrupt you because yeah, I hate cilantro so much. 172 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,480 I'm one of those people that cilantro tastes like soap to me. 173 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,200 So I just have to disagree with you. 174 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,320 Cilantro a when when we make food at home, it's like a tacos 175 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,680 or something or like a Taco bowl. 176 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:55,200 It's essentially a cilantro salad on top of it. 177 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,760 And so that would be your your worst nightmare, but for for 178 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,240 normal people. Normal people, thank you. 179 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,000 Yeah. So for normal people, but those, 180 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,200 the compounds in there, those volatile oils like the, the 181 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:15,760 smell, and they actually lead to a higher antioxidant amount than 182 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,360 even say your traditional like greens and that kind of thing. 183 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,240 And so, you know, I think Kelly had a lot of foresight when she 184 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,280 was putting those together and putting those detoxifiers in 185 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,600 there because we know that those are sort of powerhouse 186 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,120 detoxifiers. And, and each one of those has, 187 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,280 again, it's a different method of doing it. 188 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,640 So if you're you just want to use the the green blends because 189 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,360 they're 3% at carbs or something like that, then you can rotate 190 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,120 between those and you'll be getting a ton of benefits from a 191 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,200 lot of different things. OK, I, I have to interject a 192 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,240 story because I, I just, I have to with, with cilantro. 193 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,480 I, I love parsley actually. So that's like, I'm good. 194 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:54,560 That's my saving grace right now. 195 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:58,720 Because I had a session with Michelle Thomas, magical Mets 196 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,080 Michelle a while back and she was supposed to be tapping into 197 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,960 my dog. And she wound up telling me more 198 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,280 about me than anything else. And she gave me this like, list 199 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,440 of foods, vegetables specifically, and herbs that I 200 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,520 needed to be including in my diet more. 201 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,120 And one of them was cilantro. And I literally went on my 202 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,440 social media and I'm like, help me, What do I do? 203 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:27,560 I can't do this. And so I had her, she talked to 204 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:31,360 a couple of my cats. And then my cats were like, it's 205 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,600 OK, you don't have to eat a sand shrimp. 206 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,840 Because I was legitimately like, well, I'm like, Oh my gosh, I 207 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,600 need to be eating this. And I cannot eat this. 208 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,000 I cannot stomach this. I cannot make this happen. 209 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,040 I can't do. It did you do you think about 210 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,720 like the sauce supplement? I mean no, Why would I do that? 211 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,040 No, I'm just saying if your body needs it, you could have like 212 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,160 taken it. You could have taken it in like 213 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,640 a pill. I'm not saying like an extract, 214 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,640 like there's probably someone who sells like a like a gel, 215 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,160 like a capsule of of cilantro. There probably is like people 216 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,080 that make their own at home. Yeah, no, I take so many 217 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,200 supplements as it is. I just cut back on all of my 218 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,840 supplements. I feel so fortunate to have so 219 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,800 many incredible people in my life that know so much and do 220 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,440 like energy work. As much as this is not the 221 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,360 person, Billy is not the person from everybody talking about 222 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,400 energy work with on this podcast, but I have so many 223 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,360 people in my life that do energy work and it has been so helpful 224 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,680 for me. So my cats had my back and they 225 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:37,240 were like, don't worry, don't worry, don't eat the sand, OK. 226 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:44,000 But to stay on this topic of the phytonutrients in all of these 227 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,360 plants, there are specific functions and you've mentioned 228 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,120 some of them. But I'd like to go just a little 229 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,120 bit deeper because you said you've you've said a couple of 230 00:12:55,120 --> 00:13:00,000 times detoxification. Can you talk a little bit more 231 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,920 about the role that phytonutrients have in 232 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,320 detoxification and why it is so, especially the way we Live 233 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,080 Today, the way our animals Live Today? 234 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Yeah, I feel like all of our, you know, animals are in sort of 235 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,840 like, and people as well are in constant defense mode. 236 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,000 I feel like they're just constantly being bombarded with, 237 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,680 you know, things they weren't evolutionarily bombarded with, 238 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:30,160 you know, be it pollution and chemicals and, and things in the 239 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,560 water and bad food and, and just in general, I think we're we're 240 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:37,240 all in chemically and, and that kind of thing. 241 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,640 And so this is one of the things actually that Kelly's been 242 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,400 talking about for years, which is these connect any of the 243 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,360 veggie blends, doesn't matter what it is like because 244 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,720 phytonutrients and antioxidants. So, so I'm, I'm trying to think 245 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,920 about how to put this. So this is essentially rather 246 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,600 than supplements. So this is a good way to put it. 247 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,120 So rather than supplements where you're where like say you're 248 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,800 having a tincture or something like that, which is necessary in 249 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,720 some cases, which is a lot more concentrated where you're trying 250 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,160 to achieve a specific goal. So this is more like, so the 251 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:21,360 average food has like 8000 different phytonutrients in it. 252 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,000 So these are all, it's very small, complex antioxidants, 253 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,240 vitamins, minerals. And this to me is more about the 254 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,480 base of all of those things versus one specific thing 255 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,640 versus, you know, I'm looking for this specific nutrient. 256 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,680 Because what we find I think in nutrition in over the last, you 257 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,720 know, I don't know how long I've been doing this, like 12 years 258 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,560 or something. What I find is that once we 259 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,760 start to analyze specific parts of nutrition, what happens and 260 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,000 nutrients is we lose the forest for the trees. 261 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,920 So what you get there is essentially thing is really we 262 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,520 know that this nutrient is really beneficial. 263 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,640 So we're going to pull it out of the food and make it very 264 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,080 concentrated, which you can do that. 265 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,360 But for me, I think the body evolves to to be getting lower 266 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,600 levels of especially for just general health. 267 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,920 Like we're talking about making up a diet. 268 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,840 We're not talking about I'm doing this for this specific 269 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,800 purpose. Like if I was going to make up 270 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,240 any dog's diet, just generally to start with before they even 271 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:32,400 look at supplements, I would say our food, our milk in our blends 272 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,200 and make it, make that be your base. 273 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,360 And then once your start there, then you see if you need 274 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,440 supplements. This is all of these blends, but 275 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,760 I think especially the green blends are going to be just low 276 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,400 level general detoxifiers, meaning you're getting, you 277 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,200 know, 8, whatever the number is like 8 different plants in each 278 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,360 one of those things that we know have high levels of, of not only 279 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,760 those, but vitamins like vitamin K and, and all of these 280 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,200 different things. So that to me is the most 281 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,720 important part in detoxification is like sometimes we need more 282 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,160 than that. But let's start at that baseline 283 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,360 that sort of, you know, when I talk about this a lot with the 284 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,120 microbiome, but that starts with more diversity and sort of a 285 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:25,160 gentle detox, everyday detox. And then if your dog, you know, 286 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,120 has a genetic liver issue and you need to do milk Thistle or 287 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,520 whatever, whatever, whatever you need to do, you can do that. 288 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,040 But this is a good like starter place. 289 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,520 And then it goes beyond detoxification. 290 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,040 It goes into just a broad base of a whole, you know, it goes 291 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,600 into the fiber piece, which you know, has been, you know, very 292 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,800 central on my mind for, you know, even more so since joining 293 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,200 Green Juju and seeing some of the results, some of the work we 294 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,560 do. But then it goes back to fiber. 295 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,160 Then it goes back to all these other instances why you should 296 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,560 be doing it. So I think, I think that's the 297 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,520 most important part with these is that gentle detox. 298 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:06,839 So I want to put a pin in the fiber piece for the moment 299 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,160 because I think it is very important, but I think it leads 300 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,960 into another topic that we can possibly talk about another 301 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,440 time. Are there specific combinations 302 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,040 and any of these vegetable blends or maybe all of these 303 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:28,000 vegetable blends that you think are especially beneficial at 304 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,200 improving the health like mitochondrial health and energy 305 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,880 production? Do you feel like vegetable for 306 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,840 dogs specifically, that vegetables are going to aid in 307 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,360 these processes better maybe in some of these blends than 308 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,280 others? Or is it just all about rotating 309 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,800 these blends to get the most variety possible? 310 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:53,320 Think that you're, I think you're if you're talking about 311 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,200 energy, energy production, if you're talking about some of 312 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,720 these other things that's gone. I think the the blends play a 313 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,800 big role in that, but in a different way. 314 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,680 I feel like the way that they play their role is. 315 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:11,440 So if you're talking about, let's just focus, let's just say 316 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,000 energy and where that comes from, I'm a huge advocate for 317 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,040 using the correct thing for what it's good at. 318 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,760 So for me, when you're talking about energy, when you're 319 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,560 talking about fat soluble vitamins, when you're talking 320 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,200 about protein, fat, all those things that's going to that's 321 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,840 going to be in the animal realm, that's going to be in the more 322 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,400 efficient animal realm for doing those things. 323 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,960 But all of those things have processes that the body goes 324 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,600 through. And when your body goes through 325 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,160 processes, there's waste in those processes. 326 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,200 There is aiding in those processes. 327 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,800 And that's where I really think the veggie blend shine is to 328 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,560 help in detoxifying those processes and aiding in those 329 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:59,400 processes, which is interesting because, you know, I think we 330 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,600 get stuck on the idea that because something is so much 331 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,320 less a part of the diet calorically that it's not as 332 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,640 important. But it is all these very micro 333 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,880 things are as important as each other. 334 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,360 So we might it leads people to sort of like make statements 335 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:21,480 like, you know, well, you know, and dogs and cats need mostly 336 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,440 animal products, meat, you know, that sort of thing. 337 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,160 So what are plants even really doing? 338 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,000 But just because they're making up that small amount, and we 339 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,600 know that now through through, you know, more research. 340 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,840 And so I think aiding in those processes is is equally as 341 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,080 important. But then it goes also back to 342 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,240 just aiding in everyday life and making things easier on your 343 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,280 body. And I think that's maybe the 344 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,480 biggest part. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm glad you said 345 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,440 it that way because I think, and I know we talked about this 346 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,600 before on another episode, there's still a fairly decent 347 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:59,840 population of people who just think that dogs don't need 348 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,080 vegetables at all. And it they really can be such 349 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:10,200 an important part of the exactly what you just said, all the 350 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:16,320 processes in the body to live, to thrive versus just, you know, 351 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:22,200 surviving, which I think is the goal with our pets, but in 352 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:28,360 addition to the vitality blend. That is new that I know so many 353 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:31,840 of us are just anxiously waiting to get a hold of at the same 354 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,400 time you guys went ahead and did the freeze drying process on all 355 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,720 of the rest of the blend. So you've had the freeze dried 356 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:46,320 just greens for quite a while. I actually, for my very picky 357 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,400 Princess dog, tend to prefer the freeze dried. 358 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:55,680 I find it easier to hide in her food because she's not a fan of 359 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,720 vegetation. And so I just find that the 360 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,440 freeze dried is, is easier for us that way. 361 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:05,280 So I'm really excited about the rest of the blends, including 362 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,800 the vitality blend being freeze dried. 363 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,240 And I did have some questions about it, but I would love for 364 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,640 you to just, if you have anything to say about freeze 365 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,000 drying these before I ask my crazy questions, go ahead. 366 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,560 Well, I think the, the important thing to note about production 367 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,600 in general and about how we view things is, you know, we view 368 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,480 things through the lens of like in the field over the last maybe 369 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:40,040 like 1520 years, we view things in the realm of how raw is 370 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,840 something, how raw is it? We need it to be as raw as 371 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,760 possible. And if it's as raw as possible, 372 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,440 it's going to be the best possible choice. 373 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,920 And I think there is a obviously a lot of merit in not over 374 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,120 processing your foods or not, you know, you know, in feeding 375 00:21:56,120 --> 00:22:00,720 things that are just frozen and not processed beyond that. 376 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,840 However, you actually have to look at the data when you look 377 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,240 at some of the stuff. So I mean, there are studies 378 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,600 that show that if you are picking fruit for berries, for 379 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,160 example, at their peak and freeze drying them immediately, 380 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:18,240 that they actually retain more nutrients than if you freeze 381 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,680 them in a more traditional sense and or wait a couple of days and 382 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,520 eat them later. So we know that they can retain 383 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,760 more of the vitamins, more of the antioxidants. 384 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,240 And so I think there's something to be said about actually 385 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,640 looking at that data and going like, oh, maybe it's not just 386 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,080 the least processing is always the best option for every. 387 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,760 And the same thing is true of cooking food, right? 388 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,840 We know that there's some drawbacks, but we know that some 389 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,760 nutrients are more bioavailable, etcetera, you know, with a lot 390 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,200 of senior dogs eating cooked food. 391 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,560 And so I think with everything, we have to look at it 392 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,560 individually. But when it comes to these 393 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,000 blends, it was kind of a no brainer. 394 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,480 And I think part of the reason you can actually see that like 395 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,160 with your own eyes is once these are in the store, which will be 396 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:12,320 soon, by the way, I think in the next couple weeks, but I can't 397 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,760 ever guarantee anything for Texas. 398 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,160 So there you go. Well, I'm not in Texas. 399 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,160 That's true. Well, maybe. 400 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,920 Maybe very soon then. There you go. 401 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,520 Maybe very soon. But one of the things that 402 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,840 struck me as in looking at these was you'll just notice when you 403 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,960 use our frozen blends that there is what occurs with all foods. 404 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,800 There's just general oxidizing of the food. 405 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,600 You'll notice if you get our golden blend, it is brownish on 406 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,480 top and when you scoop into it, it is very golden. 407 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,480 It is very squash like and the golden beats and, and that's 408 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,160 normal and I don't think people should worry about that. 409 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,680 However, one of the cool things about the freeze dried version 410 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,400 is they're just vibrantly colored and that color is being 411 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,760 preserved in that process. So when you look at the bag you 412 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,560 can tell even if you didn't see the packaging, you could tell 413 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,480 exactly which one it is. It's almost like, you know, 414 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Bailey's as like a bluish green tint, just greens is really 415 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,560 green and the Vitality brand is really, really purple. 416 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,800 And so I think that that goes to show you exactly what I'm 417 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,360 talking about. You can, you can reference those 418 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:24,960 studies, but you can just see it with your eyes and you can just 419 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,600 see that it's it's maintaining that. 420 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,400 So that's, that's one to me, that's a really exciting thing 421 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,560 about these. So, OK, before I ask you the 422 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,920 questions I have on the freeze dried, I have a confession 423 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,480 because I know that all of these products that Green Juju makes 424 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,400 are they're sold for dogs and cats and I use so many of them 425 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,920 myself. I actually have used the frozen 426 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,840 blends in my smoothies because I didn't feel like going to the 427 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,800 grocery store. And I don't notice the taste of 428 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,240 the bone broth. It's really kind of cool. 429 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,080 So I probably shouldn't, like, tell other people to do that, 430 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,840 but I do. I do that. 431 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,080 And I also will drink the milk very often. 432 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,840 And I posted it last summer on social media. 433 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,400 And I cannot tell you how many people messaged me. 434 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,640 And they were like, I didn't know you could do that. 435 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,680 And I'm like, why not just drink? 436 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,560 But it's fine. Then like a slew of people 437 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,960 started, like, doing their own reels about drinking your goat's 438 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,640 milk. And I'm like, this is so 439 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,880 awesome. The greens for me. 440 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,120 Like, I just have such an issue with eating vegetables. 441 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,280 I don't know what I know what it is. 442 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,640 I have a child's palate, and I was never forced to eat a 443 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,080 variety of foods growing up. So I have a hard time with it. 444 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,880 So if I can just like add my veggies into a fruit smoothie, 445 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,240 I'm good. I'm like there's my veggies for 446 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,160 the day and I have been using lately Bailey's for my smoothie. 447 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,280 Well, I definitely can't recommend that people do that, 448 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,920 but I will say it is, you know, the one thing I can say is it is 449 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,080 all organic, obviously human grade. 450 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,320 I mean, when you, when you, everything we do in this realm 451 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,560 is the same organic vegetables and fruits that you get from 452 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,360 like a really high end grocery store. 453 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,480 And so, you know, it's people are always like my pets eating 454 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,880 better than me. And in some sense our pets do in 455 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,480 some cases I, you know, I try to eat as well as my pet, although, 456 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,520 you know, I still do that 10% not healthy thing. 457 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,120 So I can, you know, and do things like enjoy my life. 458 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,040 But so I'll say this, I'm glad that here, here's how I'll react 459 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,720 to that. I'm really glad that's working 460 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,160 out for you. These products are made for pets 461 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,280 and should only be consumed for pets just generally. 462 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,160 I expect nothing less So the freeze dried blends, they don't 463 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,480 vary much, but they do vary slightly. 464 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,160 One of the things that I was surprised to see when I was 465 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,600 going through the website and comparing the ingredients, I 466 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,960 expected because the just greens, the freeze dried does 467 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:05,960 not have the bone broth in it, which I appreciated for protein 468 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,680 sensitivities in dogs. But the other lens, according to 469 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,360 the website, the freeze dried does have the bone broth in it. 470 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:17,120 Can you tell me a little bit about that? 471 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:21,360 Yeah, I think and I, I do think that's important in just greens, 472 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,160 but I do think if we there's enough variety now. 473 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,160 So I think when we had just greens, it was like we only had 474 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,440 one freeze dried version. And so to make that as 475 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,560 applicable to as many dogs as possible, I think it was 476 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,960 important. But I also think it's important 477 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,360 when you have more variety to make a more like nutritionally 478 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:42,920 complete product. And so having the duck bone 479 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,880 broth, the Turkey bone broth, the bison bone broth, I think 480 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,760 are good options because one, they're pretty novel. 481 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,040 And then number two, people can move between them, say, say they 482 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,440 have a Turkey sensitivity. And that's even like, I mean, I 483 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,520 would say that's, that's even like potentially different 484 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,360 because bone broth amino acids are different than say meat 485 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,360 amino acids because of their processing, right? 486 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,400 Because they're processing time in being in free amino acid 487 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,600 form. So I would say you could still 488 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,480 maybe even try that. However, let's say you, you have 489 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,080 Turkey allergy, there's still three other ones that you can 490 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,640 rotate through. And so I think at the expense of 491 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,160 having a more nutritionally complete product, I think it's 492 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,200 better to sort of include those things in there. 493 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,240 So the other thing is, and we've known for a while, freeze dried 494 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,440 Just Greens added nettles. Can you tell me the benefit of 495 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,400 adding nettles to the freeze dried Just Greens blend? 496 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,520 Yeah. So nettles is, you know, that's 497 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,520 really going back to the the start of Green Juju and when 498 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,800 Kelly used to do a nettle blend seasonally. 499 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,520 And that really just goes back to nettles being such a great 500 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,160 antihistamine herb and, and so great for allergies. 501 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,160 And our plant, I should say, and, and just is so good for 502 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,120 allergies. And she and she would honestly 503 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,440 have so many people buy out a bunch of that because it would 504 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,600 help so much throughout the year with itching. 505 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,600 And so anytime you can find a plant that actually does things 506 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,120 like medicine, I think it's really, you know, and can be 507 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,840 concentrated like that. I think it's a really good 508 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,800 thing. And the same can be said since 509 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,080 it's been released about the results we've been getting since 510 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,440 this has come out. So, you know, with helping with 511 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,360 allergies and so, and also these are freeze dried. 512 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,680 So we know that regulatory, which, you know, might be 513 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,000 totally different very soon as you know, we know that the way 514 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,600 that AFCO and states look at different, is it a feed or food 515 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,880 product is a supplement product. A lot of people don't know this 516 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,600 is a Gray area. This is not something where 517 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,040 there's a book where you can be like, here's what it is because 518 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,280 all of the state regulators are interpreting the same document 519 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,360 differently, which has been a thing over the years. 520 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,200 One of the things we found was that if we did the packaging a 521 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,000 certain way too, we could. And because it's freeze dried, 522 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,360 we can actually, these are actually supplements as opposed 523 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,240 to feed or food products, which the frozen ones are. 524 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,800 So that that way you can actually add more because 525 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,080 nettles aren't allowed in, in food or a food product. 526 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,920 And so we were able to to do that and then and with some 527 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,040 other ones as well in the newer ones. 528 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,800 And that's why if people are wondering why don't you have a 529 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,680 frozen version with that also? That's exactly. 530 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,600 That is very interesting. Thank you for sharing that. 531 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,640 So the Bailey's blend freeze dried, you're adding levers. 532 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,320 Can you tell me about that? One second, sorry, sorry, have a 533 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,400 really good podcast guest that, you know, does something on his 534 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,120 phone during the interview. So that's how cool I am. 535 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,960 Yeah, I think think, you know, going back to also what I've 536 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,560 learned for, I think one of the things I've learned from Rita 537 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,240 going on this tour is one of the support she does just generally 538 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,240 for the lymphatic system, which she talks a lot about the 539 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,600 lymphatic system and its relation to vitamin D. 540 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,800 And you know how I feel about fat soluble vitamins and, and 541 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,680 how much I love them and think they're underappreciated. 542 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,360 And it's one of the herbs that she uses to stimulate the 543 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,720 lymphatic system and just in general health. 544 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,720 And so to me that spoke to someone like that, placing that 545 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,920 much importance on it and having, you know, a lot of her 546 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,760 clients on that. Either way, it actually grows 547 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,600 similarly and in a similar area to to nettles. 548 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,000 So I would consider them kind of similar in that way and and kind 549 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,240 of have some of the same similar properties as well. 550 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,640 But again, it goes back to the blends being like doing things 551 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,720 in a different way that achieve sort of a similar purpose in the 552 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,000 end. And that would be, you know, the 553 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,640 rotating between those two things. 554 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,840 I appreciate the support for the lymphatic system. 555 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,880 I think it's something that we don't talk nearly enough about, 556 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,760 even with humans really. But with our pets, I know I'm 557 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:09,040 often recommending like massage for my canine clients, but doing 558 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,160 things like this to help with the the lymphatic system and 559 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,960 keeping that running smoothly and draining properly. 560 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,440 I mean, we can't, we can't detoxify properly if our 561 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,480 lymphatic system isn't draining properly. 562 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,320 To have that as an option in a food, not in a, excuse me, a 563 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,320 food supplement. It's always like, it's always 564 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,760 like, it's always like combination of all the things, 565 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,160 right? It's, it's this, it's nutrition, 566 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,080 it's exercise, it's, you know, it's potentially massage. 567 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,400 It's, it's all these things together that comes from like 568 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:54,720 when, when dogs would have, you know, gotten more variety in the 569 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,480 wild and we're moving around constantly, you know, and now 570 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,840 it's just they're clearly more sedentary than they used to be. 571 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,600 So this, this can help that. And that's, that's another thing 572 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,960 we, we really value at Green Juju is like, how do we get all 573 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,480 the things that they're missing in a new interesting way into 574 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,920 their bowl? You know, it goes back to like 575 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,840 the fermented mushroom, probiotic, things like that. 576 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,480 You know, how do we, how do we take an element that they lost 577 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,440 because they're domesticated and living in our houses and put 578 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,600 that back into, you know, how we support that. 579 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,280 And I think this is a really great way to support that. 580 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,600 So I and I appreciate that about Green Juju. 581 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,600 Actually I'm going to go out of order for a very important 582 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,120 reason. So tell me about the astragalus 583 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,040 that was added to the Vitality blend in the freeze dried 584 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,400 formula. So The funny thing about this 585 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,280 word is say it one more time. Did I say it wrong? 586 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,920 No, I always say it wrong. That's what I'm saying. 587 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:56,600 I'm trying to learn from you. I assumed that it was pronounced 588 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,200 because I just I I read things and think this is how it's 589 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,080 pronounced. Is Astragalus. 590 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,200 That is exactly you're right. You're 100% right. 591 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,920 I love how I just like gave you this total self doubt in that 592 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,920 moment. Well, I was talking about this 593 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,960 with people and I was with Antoine who is our like 594 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,280 Antoine's like the the third part of the green Juju triangle. 595 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,239 He is our, our business development, AVP of business 596 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,239 development. And we were doing a training and 597 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,719 I was like, how do I say this? What can can somebody I was like 598 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,480 crowdsourcing like how do I say this? 599 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,239 But my favorite thing about it, I think in a broad sense is just 600 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,320 that it's an adaptogen. And I think adaptogens, you 601 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,080 know, we've gone into a lot of stuff with mushrooms, we've gone 602 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,960 into a lot of stuff with we haven't. 603 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,040 But CBD in general, you know, in the, in the, in pet food, in the 604 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,960 pet food market. But I think again, going back to 605 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,719 this low level detoxifying, this low level of, of support, this 606 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,200 not low level, but like baseline, like what are things 607 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,960 that we can put in our dog's diet that aren't necessarily a 608 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,480 supplement because they're part of the food, right? 609 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,320 This is part of the total diet makeup. 610 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,840 And I think adaptogens, it can be really important in those 611 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,000 cases because they're so applicable to so many different 612 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,400 systems in the body. So this, this to me, out of all 613 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,840 of them, the most important thing is that it's relatable to 614 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,920 so many things. Antioxidants detoxing all all 615 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,040 these different parts of the. Body. 616 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,120 So OK, first of all, you happen to be really good at making me 617 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,320 doubt myself. Boston. 618 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,960 I just want to say for anybody else who's like, I don't know 619 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,760 how to pronounce that either. I read this a while back and I 620 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,680 like to say it anytime something like this comes up. 621 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:40,520 Don't ever make fun of somebody for pronouncing something wrong, 622 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,240 because that means that they learned that word by reading and 623 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:47,480 should never discourage that in anybody. 624 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,000 Keep reading and learning, and it's OK if you pronounce the 625 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,320 word wrong. That that's 100% true and I know 626 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,120 this to be true because so I don't read fiction anymore very 627 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,680 often. It's just not my not my thing. 628 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,960 I don't really have time to do almost anything now that I have 629 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:10,560 a toddler and a job. But I used to read Star Wars 630 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,320 books and the characters have the wildest names that you've 631 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,640 ever read. And my friend would also read 632 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,520 them and we would always pronounce them totally 633 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,760 differently. So we were, we were always like, 634 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,800 oh, who are you even talking about? 635 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:30,120 You know, So it was like I, I am a little bit worried that I just 636 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,480 admitted that I read a bunch of Star Wars books, but here we 637 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,080 are. That's OK. 638 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,480 I This is a safe space, Billy. OK. 639 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,480 So all right, the golden blend, I intentionally went out of 640 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,960 order because the golden blend freeze dried you add bee pollen 641 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:53,160 to and bee pollen is something I love and have been using for so 642 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,640 long. I think, correct me if I'm 643 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,560 wrong, I'm going back to the I'm always doubting myself with you. 644 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,200 Is is it a reproductive food? It is. 645 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,120 OK, good. It in the sense that it's food 646 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,960 produced by nature to feed babies to. 647 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,880 Feed. Yeah, got it. 648 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,480 Right. And so not exactly in the same 649 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,440 way that it's not like bees are like making it like milk or 650 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,400 something like that, but but that that goes to all 651 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,960 reproductive foods. Like milk is made to be food, 652 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,480 but eggs are reproductive food because they're creating lice. 653 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,520 They're not made to be food, they're made to be an egg, 654 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,080 right? And so I would say that bee 655 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,520 pollen is its own special sort of reproductive food in that 656 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,480 it's made to feed babies and it's and it's incredible. 657 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,920 We talk a lot of grain juju about bringing nature, bringing 658 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,560 the diversity of nature back into the bowl, right? 659 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,720 That's like our fermented products, that's our new 660 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,920 probiotics. That's how do we get the 661 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:59,680 microbial system that exists in nature that we all need more of 662 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,360 in order to function and have our immune system function. 663 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,600 Humans and you know, dogs, cats and bee pollen is one of the 664 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,360 most interesting ways to do that because bee pollen has so many 665 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,080 different constituents as far as not only its nutrient profile, 666 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,240 but its environmental profile. I read, I read somewhere once 667 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:20,880 that there was they analyzed a single, they were analyzing 668 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,240 single grains of, of bee pollen and finding like over 3000 669 00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:25,720 different types of fungus in them. 670 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,000 So, and what people don't realize about analyzing things 671 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,040 like that is that's really just what we can analyze at that 672 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,120 point, right? We never, we never know. 673 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,640 It's like when you go into like bacterial strains, it's like, 674 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,400 why don't we count how many are in this thing? 675 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,960 It's like, well, because we probably can't. 676 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,760 So for me, getting as many foods into your pet's diet that 677 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,160 involve nature sort of microbiome. 678 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,200 And we also know it's a probiotic as well. 679 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,680 We know there's probiotic bacteria, right? 680 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,400 Because what's happening there is those bees are literally 681 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,960 gathering the environment. They're gathering what makes up 682 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,360 the actual environment and then, you know, bringing it back to 683 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,400 the hive. And then and then the the 684 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,000 beekeeper is taking a specific percentage or whatever, you 685 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,960 know, with those little contraptions they use, you know, 686 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,520 to like trap some of the pollen versus the other part. 687 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,800 And so I don't know if there's any other thing that really 688 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,520 compares in that same way for bringing the literal environment 689 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,600 into your pets dish. And remember, everyone typically 690 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,160 only talks about, oh, it's good for allergies if it's from your 691 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,360 area, That's true. But I would say that it's also 692 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,640 good. Like it doesn't matter if it's 693 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,560 like I would say exposing your animal to those specific 694 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,480 compounds in any in from any environment are going to be a 695 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,040 net positive for being less sensitive to the environment. 696 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,720 And also the other thing to consider is its nutrition 697 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,640 profile. We know that as a reproductive 698 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,280 food, it has virtually everything that we've ever 699 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,600 discovered in nutrition. And so and it's going to be 700 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,360 varied every time you're going to get, you know, you're going 701 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,440 to get a different nutrient profile every batch that we use 702 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,240 from the pollen specifically. Yeah, well, and that's why I 703 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:15,120 started using it a long time ago with my dog was for the allergy 704 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,120 benefit. And the more I learned about it, 705 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,480 I just started adding it to my smoothies too because I'm like, 706 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,800 there's so much good stuff in here, let's just take advantage 707 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,880 of whatever it may have to offer. 708 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,440 So I love. Adding that exactly right. 709 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:33,200 Well, and, and, you know, now going to the, the whole, the 710 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,440 whole line, I mean, now, if you're rotating between four of 711 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:42,040 these, that's 23 different plants into your pet's diet and 712 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,080 say you do that in a month or whatever, or, you know, with the 713 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,560 freeze dried, you can do whatever you want. 714 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,960 I always recommend what the frozen, like the easiest thing 715 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,600 for people usually is use just greens and then until it's gone 716 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,320 and then use Bailey's blend. You can do that with this. 717 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,960 Or since it's freeze dried, you could use a different one every 718 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,120 day. I mean, it just depends what you 719 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,720 want to do there. But one of the things that 720 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,920 Doctor Keith Weingart talks about a lot our staff at is with 721 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,120 supplements is just rotating between them supplemental foods, 722 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,360 right? Like doesn't always have to be 723 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,840 the same thing every time animals can benefit. 724 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,160 You know, your animal doesn't have to be going through health 725 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,360 issue, for instance, to do our Lewis fermented golden paste, 726 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,720 right? Like that can be a general 727 00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:25,280 supplement for just general health. 728 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,080 And so now the cool thing is, say you're rotating between all 729 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,440 these freeze dried blends. You are now going to get that 730 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:37,480 sort of supplemental extra that herb or bee pollen in every one 731 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,640 of those. And so it's kind of is an easy 732 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,160 way to kind of rotate between nutritional supplements, which 733 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,280 again, that's, that's what we're really trying to do here at 734 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,240 Grand Juju is make things easier. 735 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:54,320 I tell the story a lot. But I remember before Maple was 736 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,520 born, I was like, Oh, everyone has time to like do what I do 737 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,040 every time they feed their dog, they, you know, to take this 738 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:07,400 time to, you know, cut this up while I'm, while I'm feeding Lua 739 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:12,240 at the time, Obviously Lua and, and to take this, you know, 1520 740 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,160 minutes. And it has gotten better for me 741 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,840 now. But I do remember when she was 742 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,320 just born and I remember being like, wait, I don't have time to 743 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,360 do anything. I literally don't have 10 744 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,680 minutes to do anything except for keep this baby alive. 745 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,760 And so I remember thinking to myself at the time, so I just 746 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,120 started with green juju. I'm so glad I have these veggie 747 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,080 blends because it's making my life so much easier. 748 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,560 And that's most people, most people are really busy. 749 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,640 And most people also, you know, most people don't care about 750 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,520 nutrition. They just want healthy things 751 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,600 for their dog and cat. And I understand that. 752 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,760 And so it's our job at Green Juju to make things that are 753 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,840 easy. So all dogs and cats can benefit 754 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,000 from this stuff, even if you know, even if they're not 755 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,920 thinking about nutrition 95% of their day like I am. 756 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,800 Wait, who's not? I'm confused. 757 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,320 I'm kidding. Yeah. 758 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,560 And, and, and the other part too is price point. 759 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,120 They're actually, when you account for the rehydrating part 760 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,800 of this, they're actually pretty much the same price as the 761 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,240 frozen ones. So you don't have to pay more 762 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,800 for freeze drying. So that brings up a a good 763 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,640 question outside of the just greens, the other blends in the 764 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,640 freeze dried have been brought in them. 765 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,720 Are you still recommend like how do you recommend rehydrating any 766 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:31,120 of these? What's your favorite way? 767 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:38,320 My favorite way is I would just rehydrate it like you're 768 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,880 rehydrating everything else. Like if you use the freeze dried 769 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,760 food, first of all, it would be kind of the same thing. 770 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,120 I use the freeze dried food. I really love the freeze dried 771 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,280 food. I feel like people thought I was 772 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,000 going to jump straight into the frozen there, but it's a lot of 773 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,960 things I just appreciate about the freeze dried food. 774 00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:00,480 And so my favorite ways are either very clean water. 775 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,760 I was like joking with Kelly once I was like, oh, I took the 776 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,840 spring water and also ran it through my, the filter on my 777 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,480 really fancy coffee maker. So I could have like the best 778 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,000 water to, to rehydrate these things with. 779 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,720 But the other things I use bone broth all the time. 780 00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:20,400 So, you know, our bone broth obviously is really good for 781 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,240 that. And then I also make homemade 782 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:26,160 mushroom broth to hydrate these things as well. 783 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,320 But that's just to satisfy my need to make things, which is a 784 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,160 great need even outside of this job. 785 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,400 So I would say to people either use, you know, the cleanest 786 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,760 water you can or what a great way to get more nutrients. 787 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,520 And so, you know, if you want to make some mushroom broth, if you 788 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,760 want to use our bone broth, the bone broth is probably the 789 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,040 easiest 1. And that's also a really cool 790 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,880 concept because if you're, let's say you're using, you know, the 791 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,640 freeze dried food in the freeze dried blends there, you're 792 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,920 putting back like animal based nutrients. 793 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,440 That's actually legion nutrients from bones. 794 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,480 So you're getting all of those, you know, you're getting the 795 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,360 right types of protein and collagen and, and all of those 796 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,640 sort of like animal based. And that can be what's missing 797 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,880 sometimes, you know, when you're rehydrating freeze dried. 798 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,240 And I think it's a good point of to good time to point out to 799 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:20,120 people that, you know, freeze drying retains like 97% of the 800 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:25,040 nutrient profile and where frozen would be like 99%. 801 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,840 I think it's important to realistically look at the fact 802 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,280 that all processing effects food in some way. 803 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,120 Freezing the food affects the food, grinding the food affects 804 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,160 the food. All these things affect they 805 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,280 deteriorate something, but we know that. 806 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,560 So the name of the game is how do we do that in the least 807 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,000 invasive way possible? And I think the freeze drying 808 00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:52,320 and traditional freezing are, are the best ways to do that. 809 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,280 But usually the limitation with freeze dried in general, at 810 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,560 least food wise, can be the cost because obviously it's more 811 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,080 expensive than frozen because you're there's another step 812 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,240 there. But the nice thing with the 813 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,760 blends is this is kind of a tangent, but the nice thing on 814 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,440 the blends is there's really no cost difference. 815 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,200 So that's really helpful I think too. 816 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,280 OK, I actually, I, I feed both the frozen and the freeze dried 817 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,560 to both my dog and my cats. And there's something about I 818 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,640 always rehydrate in the freeze dried with the bone broth. 819 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:28,360 And there's something about that that my cats especially love. 820 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,280 Like they just. That's a good tip. 821 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,840 Love it. I I don't know if it's just that 822 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,240 added like like you were saying, the animal base. 823 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:43,280 I don't know what it is, but they they'll eat the free the 824 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,560 frozen just fine, but the freeze dried that's rehydrated in bone 825 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,520 broth. They just love it. 826 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,680 So think there's honestly, I think obviously I'm a huge 827 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,920 advocate for frozen foods, but I I think freeze dried foods are 828 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,440 more palatable just generally for most dogs and cats. 829 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,480 For my own dog, actually, one of the reasons I feed the freeze 830 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,440 dried foods is because my dog likes it a lot more and he gets 831 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,960 way more excited for it. He literally starts drooling on 832 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,280 the ground sometimes, which is both adorable and gross. 833 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,800 And so that's one of my big things this year was like 834 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,200 feeding, you know, sounds kind of corny, but like feeding for 835 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,160 love for what he actually loves to consume. 836 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,360 And I get so stuck in the nutrition. 837 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,840 And so that that's an amazing thing. 838 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,200 Not only that your cats will eat it in general because it's hard 839 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,240 to predict what cats will eat in general. 840 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,640 But aside from that, I just looking at like this is what 841 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,640 they like and they probably like it because you're rehydrating it 842 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,720 with all of those animal based nutrients, you know, that tastes 843 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:48,080 so familiar to them. And I think that can really help 844 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,920 from like a, you know, if this is going to be, I feel like such 845 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,280 a novice in this realm. But like, you know, when we 846 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,320 notice things like that and when we put that sort of love into 847 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,320 what we're feeding, I feel like there's there's a lot to that. 848 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,240 I don't know what it is, you know, but there's something I 849 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:07,880 think to that that produces better health outcomes. 850 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,480 I would agree. I would agree. 851 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,160 And so we did get off on a little bit of a tangent with the 852 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,040 food, which I always love to talk about. 853 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,760 But there was one more thing that I put a pin in on the 854 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,040 veggie blends. But I did want to come back 855 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,800 around to it at the end and maybe end on this. 856 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:32,000 So I, I said put a pin in the fiber part of the veggie blends 857 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,920 because I think talking a little bit about the prebiotic benefits 858 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,880 of these vegetable fibers is important. 859 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:46,880 And then maybe we can end there and kind of tease for the next 860 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,480 time you come on. Absolutely. 861 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,120 Yeah. I think I'm trying to think 862 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,240 that's the second time. I've only lost my train of 863 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,320 thought 2 times. While I'm very proud of myself 864 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,680 as a as an ADD person. So fiber is incredibly important 865 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,760 for people, for cats, for dogs, and we know that dogs are 866 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,320 lacking in fiber generally because especially, I hate to 867 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,760 say it, but especially in the raw world, because we went so 868 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,280 far in the other direction. Plants are bad, plants are bad 869 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,920 and we need to remove all plants that now we're getting less 870 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,600 diverse microbiomes, even though we've improved in other areas. 871 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,280 Now we're getting more pathogen buildup in the gut. 872 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,680 And this is not, you know, my opinion that this is where we 873 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,880 look at the data and, and we can show that. 874 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,920 And this is where we look at some of those success cases 875 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,200 we've had with animals that say do a microbiome test and then do 876 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,000 just greens for 30 days and then do another microbiome test. 877 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,960 And they get more bacteria diversity in a more healthy sort 878 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,480 of in more healthy amounts and less pathogen buildup like E 879 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,920 coli. And so I think that that's where 880 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,400 this becomes so important is that we can keep the diets lower 881 00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,800 in carbohydrates while a getting that dietary fiber in there, but 882 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,200 also getting that fiber to feed those bacteria. 883 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,680 Because doesn't matter what you're doing when it comes to, 884 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,680 you know, probiotic supplements, fermented foods, all those, all 885 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,240 those things that you can do that doesn't matter if you're 886 00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:16,800 not actually feeding those bacteria. 887 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,520 And remember, those bacteria don't stay very long. 888 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,480 They stay like a day to three days. 889 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,160 You have, that's why you have to continually eat foods and take 890 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,360 supplements to replenish those things because they're not there 891 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,920 to, to take up and they got, they're there to do their job 892 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,880 while they're there and then they leave. 893 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:38,080 And so I think that's one of the biggest missing parts about dog 894 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,000 health and cat health in the last, you know, five years. 895 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,720 And one of the things that I was thinking about this, one of the 896 00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:49,360 things that really attracted me to Green Juju in the 1st place 897 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,720 when I came on and, and specifically wanted to work for 898 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:59,160 Kelly at green Juju was because she had, she had so geniusly 899 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,680 sort of realized this need for animals that they need when no 900 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,560 one else needed it or no one else knew that they needed it. 901 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,520 She had a, she, you know, we have this data now, but she, she 902 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,640 was doing this stuff and seeing these results like over 10 years 903 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,520 ago. And so, and that's really 904 00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:21,840 personally where I find myself. I know there is a huge value in 905 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,720 established knowledge and knowing things and imparting 906 00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:30,280 those things onto the world, but that's not at all what excites 907 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,120 me. That's not what why I do this. 908 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,920 I'm on I, I find myself on the fringes of nutrition. 909 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:37,840 I'm trying to figure out the next thing. 910 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,560 What's the next thing that's going to take us to the next 911 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,360 level? What's something that someone's 912 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,440 never thought of? And going back to these blends, 913 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,480 just this is another tangent, but going back to these, going 914 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,440 back to these blends, you look at when we had the three and we 915 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,520 were going to do the 4th and Kelly shows me the ingredient 916 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,720 panel for this. I was like, that is so cool. 917 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,480 I was just thinking to myself like, that's such an amazing 918 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,880 product and it's such a cool formulation in which he laid out 919 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,280 all the reasons like here's this and this is the detoxifier and 920 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,000 this is what happens in this. I was like, could have never 921 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,760 thought of any of that. And I just, I had, I have so 922 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,880 much respect for that. And so that's one of these 923 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,120 things where you can introduce something that's familiar to 924 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:25,080 people, but, you know, is new and can create better health 925 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,160 outcomes. And so I think that's the thin 926 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,920 name of the game with fiber. And what we're learning more 927 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,800 about is like, it's so essential that we need to figure out, you 928 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,440 know, these ways to get these nutrients into the diet that 929 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,840 just haven't really been considered. 930 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,480 And so it's really cool to see now that people are considering, 931 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,960 you know, microbiomes kind of maybe the biggest thing right 932 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,520 now in pet food. And it's really cool to see 933 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,360 people considering like, Oh yeah, by the way, Green Juju has 934 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,880 been doing this for like over 10 years and has been providing 935 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,720 this diversified microbiome so we can actually, you know, not 936 00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:04,000 only feed the bacteria that we're getting through diet, but 937 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,800 also feed the bacteria that are innately in the gut and provide 938 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,520 that dietary fiber that just aids in digestion. 939 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,080 So this is really the fact that we now have four of these 940 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,040 things, four of these blends to be able to diversify between 941 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,880 those 23 different foods and to be able to diversify between all 942 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,280 those different fiber types, I think is just going to take the 943 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,760 health results we're getting and and take them into a different 944 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,480 place. And I would like to mention 945 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,480 specifically about the Vitality blend. 946 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,880 I do think it's really cool that purple cabbage is the number one 947 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,720 ingredient in that because we know that purple cabbage is so 948 00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:44,520 good for the digestive lining for its, for its vitamin U 949 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,800 content. And so I, I think it's a perfect 950 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,520 if you're like, most people are either trying to rebuild their 951 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,320 dog or cat's microbiome and they're doing that through like 952 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,640 fiber, They're doing that through bacteria. 953 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,640 And I just think that having something in this that has 954 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,000 actually been shown to say like heal ulcers has actually been 955 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,000 shown to build the cell wall of the digestive lining really well 956 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,560 can be a really cool tool in that. 957 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,680 And then the other thing too about the vitality blend is one 958 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,000 of the things I learned did a couple speaking events last year 959 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000 with Rodney Habib. And in his presentation, he 960 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,040 talked a lot about, you know, the specific color antioxidants 961 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,200 and feeding specific bacteria in the gut, you know, and 962 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,440 blueberries and, and other like purple and, and pink foods. 963 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,640 And that's where this comes into play as well. 964 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,480 Like people don't maybe don't realize that even specific 965 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,880 colors can go to into feeding specific types of bacteria that 966 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,520 will aid in certain ways. And so I personally am very 967 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,120 excited to use the vitality blend. 968 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,320 I know people have been waiting for a little bit, but just keep 969 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,560 in mind I have to wait too. So I've used it before. 970 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,080 I do get, you know, whenever we put out something, I've used it 971 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,960 on my dog, but usually I get to use it and then it's gone and 972 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,000 then I have to wait till I brought out, you know, till it 973 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,880 comes to the store that I order from so. 974 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,360 And with Huckleberry being more cold natured too, I'm sure 975 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,880 you're excited. That's another reason you're 976 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:19,400 excited for this blend. But I think I've probably kept 977 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,560 you long enough. I appreciate you coming back and 978 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:29,760 I think that these blends are, you know, obviously the the 979 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,800 foundation like the the pillar products for Green Juju and 980 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,680 everything else that you guys do, they all complement each 981 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,560 other so well, all of the different products that that you 982 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:48,080 have and have coming out. So I'm just glad that you guys 983 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,120 are doing what you're doing and thank you so much for coming 984 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,200 back on to explain it all. Well, thank you for having me. 985 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,760 It, it really does take, you know, I, I go to a lot of retail 986 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,600 stores and do like Q&A's and stuff like that. 987 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,760 And it's the people who are doing education like you're 988 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,960 doing, you know, to the end consumer. 989 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,720 It's, it's the clients you work with, it's the retail store 990 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:16,400 employees, all these people who are actually having the 991 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,160 relationships with the people and the animals that use our 992 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,880 products. I think that are incredibly 993 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,080 important. We're just a tiny there's, 994 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,360 there's five of us. So we're just a tiny company and 995 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,280 we're able to make these products, but we don't have a 996 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,360 sales team. Me and Antoine are the sales 997 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,720 team. So we do have a sales team, but 998 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,240 there's only two of us and so we're not in stores, you know, 999 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,400 talking up store owners all the time. 1000 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,000 And so it really is those store owners that recognize the value 1001 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,280 in what we're doing and then relay that to the end customer. 1002 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,800 So I appreciate what you're doing in that sense and to all 1003 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,240 those retailers out there as well. 1004 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,720 So takes all of us to to help one animal. 1005 00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:57,240 So I think that's really important. 1006 00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,080 It does. It does. 1007 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,240 Well, thank you so much Billy for being here for what you do 1008 00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:06,160 guys when you were are able to get the vitality blend and try 1009 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,520 it with your dogs. Make sure to reach out to me and 1010 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,840 let me know how it goes. I'm really excited to hear about 1011 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,520 it and for me and Billy today, please give your pet some extra 1012 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,480 love and I will talk to you next week. 1013 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:17,960 Thank you.