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Welcome back pet parent. 
You already know if you've been 

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here for even a hot minute, you 
know that your girl is totally 

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woo woo. 
And that's OK. 

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I love it. 
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that's fine too. 
So many of us though, I feel 

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like are starting to realize 
that there's something more. 

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There's something more to life 
that we haven't tapped into. 

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There's something we feel like 
is missing and we have been 

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searching for it for so long. 
And for some of us, we have kind

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of awoken to the idea that there
is energy, we are energy, and 

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energy is all around us. 
And I've talked about this 

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before. 
I've had animal communicators on

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in the past. 
And I recently published an 

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episode talking a little bit 
about Romeo and how I really 

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used that energy and that 
connection that I had with him, 

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even though no, I don't, I 
personally don't hear him speak 

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to me in, you know, English. 
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other ways. 
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fascinating. 
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working, getting to work 
one-on-one with people, I see 

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where there are so many things 
that we don't take into 

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consideration oftentimes. 
And if you had asked me a month 

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ago, I probably would have said 
water was like the number one 

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thing people take for granted 
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And today, my answer is totally 
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It's energy. 
It's something that we just 

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don't think about at all, but 
can make such a huge impact in 

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the quality and care that you 
give to your pets, but really 

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also to yourself as well. 
So I'm going to introduce 

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today's guest, but really 
quickly before I do that, if 

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this happens to be the first 
time you're listening to me and 

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you're like, who is this crazy 
lady and what is she talking 

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about? 
My name is Jessica. 

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I am a certified canine 
nutritionist. 

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I'm also raw certified in feline
nutrition, a certified holistic 

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pet health coach and a positive 
reinforcement dog trainer. 

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And on this podcast, we talk 
about literally everything to 

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make your pets lives better. 
And coming up, we are actually 

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going to be incorporating some 
things to make your life better 

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as well. 
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tie in really, really well 
together, which is also why I'm 

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so excited to have Michelle 
Thomas on today's podcast. 

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You may know her as Magical 
Mutts Michelle, especially if 

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you follow me on Instagram. 
I have posted about her because 

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she did a reading for me and my 
dog Kimberly and I normally do 

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not read like guests BIOS 
because it's all posted on the 

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website. 
You can go read about it. 

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The guest is going to tell you 
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But she has one line in her bio 
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you and it says Michelle 
realized through her intuitive 

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energy and animal communication 
work. 

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I'm paraphrasing that and and 
with her own life experiences 

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that true health cannot be 
achieved without addressing the 

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deeper emotional and spiritual 
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And that hit me so hard when I 
read it that I was like, no, I 

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have to say that. 
I have to say that to you. 

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So Michelle, thank you so much 
for being here. 

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How are you doing today? 
Good. 

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Thank you so much for having me.
I'm so excited to have this chat

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and that it's becoming like more
mainstream to talk about energy 

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and spiritual realm and 
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lives. 
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And one of the things that I 
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I mean, you probably do as well,
you were a licensed veterinary 

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technician. 
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sciences as well as I do. 
My formal education is in 

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science as well. 
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gravitated toward like our like 
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science. 
But I find that a lot of what we

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believe today, what we talk 
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What we talk about is like 
biology and the understanding 

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of, you know, the solar system 
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is really trying to explain 
spirituality and and the 

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spiritual things that we really 
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Yeah, I mean, just the way that 
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bodies work, like there's so 
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Like within science, there's so 
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how everything comes together to
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And I feel like people can think
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spirituality or energy work 
within the mainstream medical 

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field, but they really do work 
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Yeah, and we're going to talk 
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want to hear how you came to 
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energy work and you're also an 

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animal communicator. 
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about? 
How did you real for like were 

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you little and you realize or 
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Like how did how did all of this
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You know, I've always had a deep
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Like all of my childhood 
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my dog, Sparky, or out in the 
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And since I was little, I always
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with animals. 
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I got my bachelor's in 
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there was something lacking, but
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I was able to mentor with a 
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opened up a lot of doors to see 
that there's more to the care of

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our pets. 
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on nutrition, which is very 
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there was something lacking. 
And it was through my own health

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journey that I really put 
together this puzzle of like it 

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can be combining Western 
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medicine, but you also need to 
get to the deeper root, the 

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energetic emotional health, 
because our bodies are truly a 

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reflection of that. 
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food, take all the supplements. 
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blocks or emotions that you're 
holding in and not addressing 

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and holding space for, you 
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of illness. 
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interesting because I've been on
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journey, but also mental health 
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are people out there that deal 
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I'm so I'm not making light of 
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Like, I have nothing to complain
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being a Libra and an overthinker
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I mean, the human experience is 
wild and difficult and 

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confusing. 
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Well, one of the things that I 
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so interesting, is that I think 
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feminine energy, but I think 
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in general, we tend to be a 
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maybe even find connection with 
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the universe, spirit source 
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you want to call it. 
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maybe get there easier, maybe 
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connect with it. 
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something just like what you 
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I see that all the time and all 
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on social media, it's like, do 
you can you can do all the 

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things. 
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go stand outside and, you know, 
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morning, have your coffee, do 
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all eat right, do your yoga, do 
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And if you're mine doesn't right
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to get so far. 
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connected our animals and 
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really focused on the animals 
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it's really healing in 
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because they're really here to 
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our lives for a reason. 
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connected together that when 
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also a lot can you know come up 
for you and your journey. 

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So when you say you connect with
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What does that look like? 
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put into words, so I'll try to 
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of what I'm feeling. 
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It's like a ceremony. 
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while we're speaking and I make 
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my energy where I'm grounding 
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And I have a practice of, say, 
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connecting to the heavens. 
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and light a candle and I set 
intention to connect with your 

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animals to bring any information
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good. 
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you earlier that I can connect 
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sessions and we may bounce 
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may be giving me a message 
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convey. 
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I really love these treats or 
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funny, you know, things like 
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sometimes some wisdom beyond, 
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like this wisdom that these 
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So I can connect direct messages
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I also can get messages from 
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So that may look like foods that
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So it's kind of like a body scan
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to support their body that comes
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with your veterinarian, I may 
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you can then follow up with them
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spirit guides and receiving 
information for holding space on

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the deeper level of maybe 
emotions that no longer serve 

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them that I can hold space for 
releasing or deeper energetic 

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shifts or sometimes something 
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well. 
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also. 
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you connect with an animal and 
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I want to ask this question? 
When do you? 

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Because I know different people.
I'm like, I think I know what 

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you're like. 
How do I receive the messages? 

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Yes, yeah. 
So it's funny, in the intro you 

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said you've had an animal 
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your cat who's passed, but your 
cat doesn't speak to you in 

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English. 
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speaking to that communicator in
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mediums are receiving like just 
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said to me, but I'm not hearing 
something. 

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And you're right that like every
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differently, and we all have 
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So your cat may be communicating
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It's about tuning into that. 
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that. 
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receive those messages in a 
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Sometimes I will see something 
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also it's in your mind's eye, 
you see something or I feel 

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energy waves come in. 
So sometimes I don't know if you

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noticed in our session, my eyes 
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and it's me receiving downloaded
channeled message. 

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And then it's through practice 
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If you trust, it's like a trust 
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So I'll receive a message and 
then I say, I got this message 

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and you know, through 
confirmation, it's like these 

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messages, you learn to trust 
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feel that. 
So it's, you know, feeling these

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interpreting different messages 
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So let's say I think sometimes 
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day-to-day, like following your 
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your guides, God, whatever you 
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subtle. 
It doesn't have to be, you know,

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something intense and it's 
about, you know, I may also not 

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recognize these subtle things in
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distracted, but it is getting in
this very grounded, different 

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state that I can receive these 
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So I I still want to talk about 
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just a little bit. 
But before we get there, I want 

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to ask about like the connection
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And energetically, one of the 
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said this to you or not, but 
after I don't know how, having 

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talked to and listened to and 
having so many different animal 

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communicators TuneIn to various 
pets. 

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I've had one of the things that 
I have I have heard a bunch of 

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different pieces and kind of put
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that I now have the belief that 
dogs are here to teach us 

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unconditional love and cats are 
more like our spiritual 

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guardian. 
I don't know if that is true, 

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but that's how I feel in in my 
life and my body. 

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Does that make any sense to you?
I just have to ask everybody 

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that. 
Yeah, You know, I see a lot of 

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variety of lessons with dogs 
like, I think just like people. 

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Someone just actually asked me 
this today because I was 

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talking, I made some posts on 
Instagram about some really 

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highly spiritually evolved dogs 
that I've been connecting with. 

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But not all dogs are very 
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are. 
And it can really matter where 

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they're at on their soul 
journey, how many incarnations 

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they've had, where they've been,
what lessons they've learned, 

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what they bring to us. 
But yes, certainly this 

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unconditional love is really 
important of, and part of that 

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can be like meeting them where 
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journey. 
You can learn a lot of lessons 

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through difficult relationships,
you know, But cats certainly are

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like energetic protectors. 
I think even in your session, 

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some cats came in to do some 
energetic clearing. 

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So I'll bring in spirit guides 
to help me during sessions. 

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And sometimes cats will come in 
to do energetic cleansing. 

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I always have like little 
totems, altars that I set and 

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ask who wants to come in before 
each session. 

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Even now I asked. 
I don't know why, but this snake

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picture wanted to come in while 
we talk and a dragon, which is 

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like my son's dragon toy, likes 
to come in. 

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But yeah, I have a lot of little
cat statues and I'll often bring

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them into sessions because 
they're very efficient energetic

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cleansers. 
So I, I forget how you worded 

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it, of their purpose of like a 
protector. 

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Like, yeah, they're, I think 
they're like spiritual 

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guardians. 
And it is funny. 

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I after I had that session with 
you, I was like scrolling and I 

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saw this beautiful purple dragon
brooch and I was like, I need to

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buy that. 
And like how I say, like, you 

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may not hear something, these 
little signs when you something 

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comes up and you keep saying it,
it's like, yeah, yeah, it's 

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funny. 
It's drag energy calling too, 

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right? 
So how do every relationship is 

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different, obviously? 
Do you find that you're often 

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kind of bridging the gap 
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their pet parents? 
Like in my mind, I'm, you know, 

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an average pet parent is like, 
OK, I know I need to feed this 

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better food. 
I know that my dog is needing to

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go for a walk every day. 
I know that when they jump up 

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and they stare at me like the. 
It means XY is, you know, 

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different animals have different
ways of expressing themselves. 

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But that, like, energetic is Do 
you find that most people just 

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don't have that energetic 
connection with their pets? 

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How do are you just, like, 
bridging the gap? 

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Yeah. 
Depends on the person, how in 

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tune that they are. 
But I feel like like feedback I 

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get after the sessions is that 
people have like a deeper 

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understanding in connection with
their animals. 

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And I think bridging that gap 
can be how I talked about. 

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Like sometimes it's a message 
directly from your animal of 

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what they need from you for them
and also what they want for you.

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And then also a deeper 
understanding of maybe there was

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a trauma that happened to them 
before you had them or something

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that can give you a deeper 
understanding of why they have 

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this behavior or this fear now. 
And then I do. 

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So I'm doing with this 
communication, but then also 

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we'll hold space for helping to 
release this. 

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So you can see shift shifts in 
behavior by holding space for 

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releasing these emotions, these 
traumas that happen. 

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And this can be in this lifetime
or other lifetimes. 

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Just to put it, yeah, I'm like 
Hassler. 

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Know how which often we have 
multiple lifetimes with our 

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animals. 
You know, it can be really 

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beautiful. 
You know, there's some souls 

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that you are deeply connected to
and I love when they like assure

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you that you'll always be 
together through many lifetimes.

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You know, that's like so 
beautiful. 

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And sometimes last week I had a 
lot of dogs that were childhood 

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dogs that have come back. 
To these people as adults, you 

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know, and it's A, and within 
that doing a lot of like inner 

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child healing work for that 
person to really, you know, heal

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that part of themselves that 
that dog was there with them to 

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experience in that time. 
That is so interesting to me 

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too, the idea of like inner 
child work. 

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It's it's a tough one to for me 
probably for everybody to face 

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and the idea that like our pets 
could be here to help us with 

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that, but also we could, they 
could be coming to us because 

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they need help, right Is that. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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I think it can go both ways of 
yeah, healing and partnership, 

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healing each other and learning 
lessons together. 

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You know, something I see also 
is like, you can, I had this dog

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this week that has been with his
owner over 100 times and always 

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as the relationship of dog and 
human. 

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And he said he looked for at 
shelters for over three months 

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and was like, this isn't, you 
know, couldn't find his dog. 

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He like reached his hand in the 
cage. 

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The dog licked his hand. 
And like, before he even like 

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looked at the dog, he just like 
knew like, this is my dog. 

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And there can be like, you know,
profound deep relationships like

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that. 
But then also sometimes you get 

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an animal that you don't feel 
deeply connected to. 

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And I work with a lot of people 
who have a lot of grief or guilt

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around that. 
But there's also a lesson within

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that as well. 
You know that every animal isn't

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going to be your deep soul 
connected animal and that's OK 

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too. 
And you're also still there to 

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teach each other things and, and
releasing this guilt that you 

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don't feel like, you know, I 
said guttural feeling of like 

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connection to this animal. 
You know you're not going to 

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feel bad with every animal and. 
Yeah. 

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Well, Speaking of guilt, that 
was one of the things that I've 

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actually been working on myself 
since our session, because I 

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went in thinking that my dog 
Kimberly was going to have all 

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of this trauma and all of this 
like, help that she needed. 

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And like, she really ended up 
like she had some, but she 

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really like what what I was left
with more than anything was she 

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was like, I got my bed, I got my
water bowl, I'm good. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

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And so like, I've been trying to
let go of the guilt I had been 

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feeling for so many years with 
like, I'm not doing everything I

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need to be doing. 
I'm not supporting her in the 

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ways I need to be supporting 
her. 

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And maybe, you know, obviously 
there's always still room and 

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work that needs to be done. 
But like trying to release my 

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own guilt because she was just 
like then can. 

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Yeah, people will be like, tell 
me, what else do they want? 

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And they're like, I don't know, 
like you could give me a piece 

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of bread. 
Like I'm fine. 

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Like it's usually not, you know,
like usually they often have a 

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lot of things they want you to 
do, even outside of activities 

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with them. 
They're like, you know, go 

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running, go dance, listen to 
music, find joy within yourself.

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Even with traveling, people will
be like, I'm so guilty that I'm 

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going on this vacation and 
leaving my pet and your animals 

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like, oh, I'll miss you, but 
like, oh, that's bringing you 

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joy. 
That's wonderful. 

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Like usually they'll be like 
show people pictures of me, talk

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about me, think about me, maybe 
bring me something back, like, 

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and they just want to know like 
the plan or who they're staying 

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with, you know? 
But of course there's some 

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animals who have deep rooted 
separation anxiety. 

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But honestly, most of those 
animals aren't worried about 

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themselves. 
They're worried about their 

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person and an instability in the
person. 

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So it's like often working 
through them, feeling that their

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person's safe, you know, without
them. 

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So you said that like initially 
you were just like trying to 

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exclusively work with the 
animals, but it sounds like the 

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animals have kind of almost made
you like. 

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The animals demand us to take 
care of ourselves, which is like

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you'll take care of your animal 
before yourself. 

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So it's been beautiful way to 
like open up for people to like 

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there's such in our Society of 
feeling like you're selfish or 

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guilty. 
You feel guilty for doing things

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for yourself, but you will 
endlessly do things for your 

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animal. 
And I'm like, doing things for 

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yourself is doing something for 
your animals, like self-care is 

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taking care of your past. 
Because if you're in balance, 

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that throws them off. 
You know that. 

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That's a clip. 
I'm just going to have to post 

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that as a clip because I 
certainly am guilty of that. 

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Of like completely ignoring my 
own wants and needs and putting 

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everyone else above a both me 
and train very hard not to do 

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that. 
Anymore, Yeah. 

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Our animals don't want that for 
us. 

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They want us to be happy and 
take care of ourselves on a 

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emotional, mental, physical 
level. 

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They want us to find joy, I 
guess. 

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So often they'll just request 
things that bring you joy and 

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they want that feeling in the 
home. 

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They're like, can you play this 
music you used to? 

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Can you do these things because,
you know, stress comes up in 

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life and we forget to do those 
like simple joyful things. 

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How often do you think our pets 
want to be included in our 

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spiritual practices, if we have 
any or ask that we start 

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spiritual practices like whether
that's like journaling or 

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meditating or whatever that. 
Is I, I feel that most animals 

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really do. 
It's really important and it's 

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interesting. 
I just yesterday had a session. 

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I asked him this person like, do
you have a spiritual practice 

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because your dog is telling me 
that, you know, you do and you 

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should really focus on that. 
And he's like, I don't. 

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But then it came through that 
his spiritual practice is 

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gardening and connecting with 
the flowers. 

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So we can be spiritual practice 
doesn't need to look like, you 

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know, maybe we were raised for 
it to look like. 

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I mean, I think it's beautiful 
if you have a religion that 

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really, you know, resonates with
you. 

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But your spiritual practice can 
be something simple like 

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gardening or yoga or whatever 
calls to you hiking. 

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You know, I have this dog last 
week also who is preparing to 

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leave his body and her other 
dog. 

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He used to always go hiking in 
the mountains with his person 

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and he's no longer able to do 
that. 

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And the other dog doesn't always
want to go hiking, She told me 

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because once she hurt her foot, 
that's and she was a little like

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felt vulnerable that she could 
hurt her foot again. 

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And he's like, before I go, it's
really important that you 

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embrace hiking with her because 
there's magic in the mountains. 

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And like this is an important 
spiritual practice for his owner

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to be hiking with her dogs. 
And so he like he can't leave 

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her until she can like have that
spiritual practice again. 

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That's. 
Excuse me, that's actually 

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really beautiful and and also 
made me think of something I 

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didn't think of before. 
And I don't know why, but the 

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idea that we, well, we have, I 
think so much grief, sadness 

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around the idea of losing our 
pets. 

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And that's not wrong, but also 
it doesn't have to be that way. 

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And I've had so many animal 
communicators tell me that it's 

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like, yes, to us it's death, but
to them it's just moving on. 

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Yeah, it's just another 
transition out of their body. 

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Very rarely have I seen maybe if
it was something very sudden or 

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tragic, you know, But generally,
animals really are. 

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Yeah. 
It's not a scary process for 

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them. 
And they, our animals can have 

453
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,840
such deep connection with us and
with the other animals even 

454
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,680
beyond their body. 
So can be really a beautiful 

455
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,880
process. 
I know a lot of people grapple 

456
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,400
with guilt when an animal 
passes. 

457
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,320
Maybe I could have done this. 
Maybe I could have done that. 

458
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,480
So, but there's something 
beautiful in like honoring the 

459
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,880
way that your animal wants to 
die, but sometimes that means 

460
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,520
not doing a lot of 
interventions. 

461
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,960
This dog I was just Speaking of 
that wants this other dog to go 

462
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,240
hiking in the mountains. 
He was like ready to leave his 

463
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,520
body and told us this. 
But once we actually had her 

464
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,480
stop a lot of interventions, 
he's, I mean, he was completely 

465
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,880
different dog. 
He's rebounded. 

466
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,680
He wants to stay in his body 
longer. 

467
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,920
He was stressed out by going to 
too many appointments, too much 

468
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,320
poking, too much prodding even 
like, you know, he just wants 

469
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,960
the simple things. 
He wants his owner to cook some 

470
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,280
meals for him. 
He wants to like greet people 

471
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,400
around the neighborhood. 
He wants to play little nose 

472
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,680
work games. 
And these things are what bring 

473
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,160
him joy. 
He doesn't want to have a ton of

474
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,360
intervention and she honored 
that. 

475
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,760
And he, like, has made a rebound
like blossomed. 

476
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,920
It's so interesting that that 
came up because it also came up 

477
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,000
in the recording I just did 
right before yours. 

478
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,720
Really. 
And it's been really like heavy 

479
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,720
on my heart since Romeo passed, 
which was at the beginning of 

480
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,240
August. 
I keep telling myself I'm going 

481
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,960
to do a reel and I haven't done 
it because it's hard, but it 

482
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:57,000
just keeps coming up that like, 
I I feel like I want to give 

483
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,640
people permission almost to not 
have to intervene in every 

484
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,480
single thing. 
Yeah, absolutely to like in it 

485
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,360
and like who am I to give people
permission? 

486
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,920
But I I feel like people have 
such a hard. 

487
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,560
I think people worry about 
judgment. 

488
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,760
So by people validating and 
saying, I know you're making a 

489
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,160
decision out of love and from 
your heart and what your animal 

490
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,000
you feel is best and your animal
is asking you to do. 

491
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,200
And yeah, I'm not judging you 
for that. 

492
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,040
You know, that's in our 
especially with social media and

493
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,400
everything, you know, people are
worried about judgment from 

494
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,920
others and the way they care for
their pets and you know, yeah, I

495
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,720
mean, animals, a big thing that 
a theme that comes up for me is 

496
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,840
animals do not want you pitying 
them. 

497
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,760
That is, I mean, no one wants 
pity directed at them. 

498
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,200
So like when they're old or 
they're going through something 

499
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,960
just making like an offering of 
love of however that looks, but 

500
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:07,280
not, yeah, not pitying or over 
worrying or trusting them. 

501
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,800
My mom's cat was just sick and I
just had a little upset stomach 

502
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,080
and I connected in with him and 
he said he ate a snake outside 

503
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,400
and was had a little upset belly
which he's been obsessed with 

504
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,000
hunting snakes all summer. 
And I did a little energy work 

505
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,280
on him and he's like I'll feel 
better in two days. 

506
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,760
My mom was hovering over him and
worrying about him and messaging

507
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,000
me and then he wanted to go 
outside what she's allowed to do

508
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,720
sometimes but he always comes 
back quickly. 

509
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,120
He didn't come back and she's so
worried and she's frantic 

510
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,240
running around and I connect in 
with him. 

511
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,200
He's like I'm under the porch. 
She's annoying me. 

512
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,000
I told her I'd be better in two 
days. 

513
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,120
Like she needs to like give me 
some space. 

514
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,800
And he said when she goes up to 
bed and proves to me that she's 

515
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,520
like giving me space and not 
worrying I'll come in. 

516
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Of course it was like 3:00 AM. 
He's like, I'll come in now. 

517
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,720
But I told her like he was like 
annoyed by like the coddling. 

518
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,320
He's like, I'm a cat. 
I know what I'm doing. 

519
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,440
I told you 2 days and he's fine.
He's fine now, which is like to 

520
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,280
say like, you know, I was like, 
OK, if he's not better in these 

521
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,000
two days, maybe take him to the 
vet. 

522
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,720
It's not like a but you know, 
some trust in their bodies and 

523
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,080
what they're doing. 
Yeah, that's funny. 

524
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,760
You're annoying me. 
I can definitely see like 

525
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,920
literally every cat being like 
you're annoying me. 

526
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:39,960
So connecting in getting a lot 
of the like spiritual stuff that

527
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,440
is really, really cool and can 
be very beneficial. 

528
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,800
But one of the one of the things
that you do that I find 

529
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,080
absolutely fascinating is how 
you can kind of connect with 

530
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,440
different food or not. 
Not that you're connecting with 

531
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,680
the food, you're connecting with
the animal, but they're they're 

532
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640
telling you about telling you, 
telling you about different 

533
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,560
foods that might work better for
them or foods that maybe don't 

534
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,679
make them feel that great. 
Can you tell me a little bit 

535
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,800
more about that? 
Maybe give me some examples of 

536
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,960
how this works? 
That's actually like how I 

537
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,239
started doing the energetic work
when I first started. 

538
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,760
I was just started playing 
around with it. 

539
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,760
For doing diet recommendations, 
I actually used to own a store 

540
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,280
here in Vermont that focused it 
on focused on fresh feeding and 

541
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,960
supplements and things. 
So I started utilizing it with 

542
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,239
my customers where you know, at 
first it's like, you know, when 

543
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,320
you first come coming out with 
the stuff, it's like a little 

544
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,159
hard. 
You're like, do you mind if I 

545
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:49,679
just try something a little, you
know, maybe seems weird, but and

546
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,480
it was working. 
It's like I just asked the body 

547
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,840
to tell me what's in alignment 
and what is not energetically in

548
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,480
alignment. 
And so basically I'll write a 

549
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,520
chart of like, these are the 
proteins in alignment for their 

550
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,600
body. 
These are the proteins not in 

551
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,320
alignment for their body. 
If I get a no, I will actually 

552
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,480
ask like why? 
Maybe like intolerance or some 

553
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,000
foods are like hot in heavy 
metal. 

554
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,480
So I can ask more questions, but
then I can kind of have an idea 

555
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,520
of what bodies are most in 
alignment in that moment to 

556
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:30,920
support your animals body. 
And yeah, I just started seeing 

557
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,600
where, you know, customers have 
been struggling with their 

558
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,080
animals having like GI tract 
issues or skin issues and 

559
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,160
getting results of like 
improvement. 

560
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:48,040
So that was like, yeah, gaining 
the trust and now utilize it 

561
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,320
often to just see it's like 
taking out the guessing game 

562
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,160
around what foods will work. 
And then I can ask questions 

563
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,640
also like, OK, like fat, like 
how much fat do they need in 

564
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,080
their diet? 
What percentage of veggies 

565
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,720
should it be cooked or raw? 
And that can shift. 

566
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,560
So I just want to give that 
disclaimer, I guess with 

567
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,760
everything energetically, this 
is like a snapshot of what in 

568
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,440
the moment. 
So in 6-8 weeks, you know, maybe

569
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,400
their body needs a little 
something different. 

570
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:26,840
But I know people spend a lot of
frustration trying different 

571
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,680
things, seeing what works, trial
and error, and it's really been 

572
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,240
cool to like have like the 
snapshot to make 

573
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:38,400
recommendations. 
Yeah, that does sound really, 

574
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:43,720
really awesome. 
And you had told me that Turkey 

575
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,880
doesn't do well for Kimberly, 
and I didn't. 

576
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,480
It was like as soon as you said 
that, I was like, Oh my gosh. 

577
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,200
She was having a few months back
some kind of like food aversion 

578
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,680
issues. 
And it was very frustrating 

579
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,400
trying to figure out what was 
going on. 

580
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,200
And it happened that I was 
feeding her Turkey at that time.

581
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:12,080
And it took, it took weeks, 
honestly, for me to kind of get 

582
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,240
more for her to get back into 
like just OK, I'm eating like it

583
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:20,280
was always, it was like this 
struggle for a while. 

584
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,560
And her body didn't feel good, 
so she. 

585
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:29,480
Yeah, and fortunately, I, I 
already didn't have any more 

586
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Turkey in the house, but just 
knowing that like, it was almost

587
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,840
like I felt like, oh, I should 
have realized, but I, I didn't 

588
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,640
at all. 
But then we as soon as you said 

589
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,880
it, I was like, it was like it 
popped in my head like it was 

590
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,640
Turkey. 
That was because I remember I 

591
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,200
had a couple pounds of it and I 
was like, well, you know, we'll 

592
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,720
cook it. 
And we'll, you know which, you 

593
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:53,320
know, gently cooking it on the 
stove. 

594
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,680
And it got her like, she would 
eat it, but she was like not 

595
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,840
excited about it. 
And she was really kind of 

596
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,640
standoffish. 
And yeah, it took, it took us a 

597
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,640
while. 
And so now I'm like, all right, 

598
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,640
we're good. 
That it was also very 

599
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,240
confirming. 
Yeah. 

600
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,480
To, you know, like those little 
things that come up, I'm sure in

601
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,760
sessions all the time where. 
People are like aha moments. 

602
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Yes. 
I work with a lot of picky 

603
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,800
eaters also just to get cut up 
to the root of what's going on. 

604
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,040
And sometimes it's emotional and
sometimes just within their 

605
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,840
body, their digestion needs some
support or detox or something 

606
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,400
that they're feeling nauseous or
something deeper or that certain

607
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,320
foods are causing their body not
to feel good when they eat. 

608
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,400
Or sometimes it's just 
preference. 

609
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,840
So sometimes they're telling me 
foods that they want, and then 

610
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,120
I'm like, your body doesn't 
really like that. 

611
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,360
But just like us, you know, so 
obviously love the taste of some

612
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,280
things that are our highest 
alignment. 

613
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,120
Yeah. 
I know I had to have a client 

614
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,840
who gives his dog so much cheese
and he's like, I need him to 

615
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,120
lose weight and I'm like, we 
have got to cut the cheese. 

616
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,480
Cheese is a huge request for 
dogs, yeah. 

617
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,320
He's like, but my dog loves it 
so much and it's sometimes it's 

618
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,440
all he wants to eat. 
And I'm like, OK, well, you 

619
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,080
know, just not obviously not 
doing what you do, but like, 

620
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,120
just walking him through the 
like, OK, we're going to reserve

621
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,280
cheese for like, special 
occasions and let's make it raw 

622
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,120
and let's make it, you know, 
like, let's try to make this as 

623
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,680
healthy as possible because his 
dog definitely needs to lose 

624
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,720
more weight than I would like. 
But yeah. 

625
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,480
But it's funny how you know. 
Obviously they have preferences 

626
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,080
just like we do, though if they 
had never gotten it in the first

627
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,800
place they wouldn't know to 
crave it. 

628
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,720
Yeah. 
Oh, this dog, it was I, I think 

629
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,680
I had mentioned you that like 
food came up a lot yesterday in 

630
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,720
my sessions where this dog said 
I really love when you give me 

631
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:03,840
bread. 
He wanted me to tell his person 

632
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,320
that. 
And oh, that's interesting 

633
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,720
because like if I try to give 
him a piece of my bagel or 

634
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:12,120
something, he's not that into 
it. 

635
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,880
But we have a friend who makes 
this bread out of a sourdough 

636
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,560
starter. 
And like, this starter is like, 

637
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,160
really meaningful to her. 
There's something behind it 

638
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,720
that, like, she's had it for a 
long time and it means a lot to 

639
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:27,760
her. 
And she makes these loaves of 

640
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,040
bread and shares it with her 
friends. 

641
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,040
And the dog was like, yes, that 
bread is infused with love. 

642
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,240
Like, it tastes so good because 
I can like, feel the love in 

643
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:39,840
that bread, like the energy of 
it. 

644
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,640
That's amazing. 
So what are and obviously you 

645
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,760
don't have to like give me 
anything that would be like a 

646
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,240
tell or make anybody feel weird 
or embarrassed, but like what 

647
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:56,200
are some of the stranger 
requests that you you've gotten 

648
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,000
from animals? 
Oh, someone whose boyfriend 

649
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,680
doesn't live with them so he'll 
like come and stay sometimes and

650
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,920
leave. 
The dog was like, can he leave 

651
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,280
his dirty underwear here on the 
bed when he leaves without? 

652
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,960
Like, I'm just the messenger. 
That's what your dog's asking. 

653
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,560
Like, so sometimes dogs will, 
you know, request funny things 

654
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,520
or I, I had posted or someone 
had posted something about this.

655
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,640
I had this dog yesterday who 
kept going on about the 

656
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,080
grandma's hair. 
She was like, she's not the 

657
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,120
nicest hair. 
And then she tells her mom, 

658
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,880
well, you have nice hair too, 
but like, not as nice as 

659
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,560
grandma's. 
Like, just like, OK. 

660
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:45,880
You know, yeah, backhanded. 
She's nice, yeah. 

661
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Or yeah. 
So I love when they have their 

662
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,400
like personality come through or
like really confident dogs. 

663
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,920
I had and I was asked permission
before sharing anything, just to

664
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,160
put that up there that if 
something comes up in session, 

665
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,200
you know, I like to that's fun 
to share. 

666
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,600
I asked permission of the person
and the dog. 

667
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,000
And a lot of dogs, like, want to
share this stuff. 

668
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,120
Like, I'm sure Kimberly would 
want everyone to know that she's

669
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,960
Princess Sparkles, like going to
be proud of that. 

670
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,800
Like, you know. 
Yeah. 

671
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:23,280
And I had a dog that wanted to 
do yoga with her mom and she 

672
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,720
wanted like, she's had a purple 
mat next to her, which she's 

673
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:28,400
like, oh, I do have an extra mat
with purple, you know? 

674
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,040
And then she said she wanted to,
like, have her picture taken and

675
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,160
share it with everyone. 
So some dogs like really want to

676
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,760
be like out there and showing 
off, you know their stuff, so. 

677
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,800
Also saw a cat that wanted to go
to ride in the basketball 

678
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,960
bicycle. 
I like love this cat, which this

679
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,040
is like stuff that I'm like so 
that when I'm saying it, you 

680
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,080
look, I have to have a trust 
muscle because I'm like, first 

681
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,120
of all, your cat is telling me 
that he wants to wear a hat and 

682
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,400
like logically I'm like, why 
would your cat want to wear a 

683
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,840
hat? 
Like what cat wants to wear a 

684
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,880
hat? 
But this is what he's showing 

685
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,280
me. 
Like I was seeing a hat on him 

686
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,560
and she owns a store. 
I can't. 

687
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,600
He would want everyone to know. 
So Lone Star pet in Arizona and 

688
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,960
he actually like in the first 
session I ever did with him, 

689
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,280
he's like, I want to go to the 
store more and same thing. 

690
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,640
I'm like, my cats would never 
want to come and hang out at a 

691
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,320
store where there's people and 
dogs coming in and out. 

692
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,000
You know, this dog, this cat, 
like, wants to be there. 

693
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:34,440
So he hangs out at her store and
I guess she has a display with 

694
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,880
some hats on it, like for dogs. 
And he's seeing that. 

695
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,480
So she's like, yeah, he's seen a
dog hat. 

696
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,040
And I'm like, well, he wants his
own hat. 

697
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,600
So he's been wearing hats and he
absolutely loves them. 

698
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,680
And he's like feeling himself. 
And then he also told me, like, 

699
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,480
I want to ride a bike. 
And I'm like telling me he wants

700
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,160
to ride a bike. 
Like this seems makes she got 

701
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,600
him a basket and he's loving the
bike. 

702
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,120
He's wearing his hat in his bike
basket. 

703
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,200
And last time I talked to him 
because we chat frequently, he's

704
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,400
like, tell my mom to go faster 
on the bike. 

705
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:18,800
Like. 
So yeah, some animals are just 

706
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,320
like, yeah, crack me up and. 
Yeah, it's like he sounds like 

707
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,440
he would make a very good 
adventure cut. 

708
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,920
Well, that's how he words it. 
See, he's like, I want to go on 

709
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,520
adventures because the first 
time I ever, or maybe one of our

710
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,800
first sessions he had, they live
in like the desert in Arizona. 

711
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,920
He had gotten out of their yard 
and came back with cactus in him

712
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,040
and stuff. 
And he so she's like, you have 

713
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,120
to tell him to stay in the yard.
That's dangerous. 

714
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,880
And he's like, well then you 
need to take me on more 

715
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,560
adventures. 
Like I'm going to find my own 

716
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,720
adventure if you don't take me 
on these adventures. 

717
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,000
Wow, it is interesting, 
especially for a cat. 

718
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,880
But I I mean, you know, to each 
their own. 

719
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,040
Yeah. 
Of someone who knew about this 

720
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,720
cat, you know, I connected with 
her cat and she's like, ask him 

721
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:08,000
if he wants to wear a hat and 
he's like, what? 

722
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,560
No. 
And then so, you know, like he 

723
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,000
wants to stay in the yard. 
He's like a little jealous. 

724
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,440
They go on walks around the 
neighborhood without him. 

725
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,800
But if they asked you want to 
come and he's like, no, I want 

726
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,720
to stay in the yard, but can you
talk about me while you are on 

727
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:26,360
your walks? 
And then she sent me a message 

728
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,680
last week saying they took a 
Walker in the neighborhood and 

729
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,240
they made sure to like, chat 
about him during it. 

730
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,840
And when they came back, he was 
like waiting at the fence, which

731
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,560
is unusual for him that they he 
was like seem very pleased that 

732
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,520
they have been chatting about 
it. 

733
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,720
It's. 
Adorable. 

734
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:51,120
So when you're doing these 
sessions, do you do you feel 

735
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,800
like this is going to be a weird
question? 

736
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,800
Do you feel like people or pets 
get the most out of them? 

737
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Oh, I feel like initially the 
pets, but the deeper or longer, 

738
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:11,280
like the more sessions I do with
people, then the more they open 

739
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,920
up and see the shifts within 
themselves also. 

740
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,200
Yeah. 
So I feel like on the on the 

741
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,240
surface, at first they might 
recognize it within their pet 

742
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,480
and then as we go deeper with 
more sessions, they really start

743
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,760
to see shifts within themselves 
also. 

744
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:33,400
Yeah, and I I just can't help 
but wonder if like that's their 

745
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,200
pets intention all along. 
Yes, yeah, I think so. 

746
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,800
Yeah. 
They really care about us and 

747
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,920
want us to, yeah, be happy and 
healthy. 

748
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:51,400
Yeah, yeah, I think, and this is
just my brain rambling, but like

749
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:57,160
I, I, I often feel like as 
humans we, we are so egotistical

750
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,680
as a species, like everything is
about us all the time. 

751
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:08,920
And we so many of us, I think, 
overlook the fact that all of 

752
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,720
the animals. 
I also feel like the plants and 

753
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,160
I. 
Was just going to say that like 

754
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,280
everything, yes, I truly believe
there's spirit within everything

755
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,160
around us. 
I use flower essences all the 

756
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,400
time and they're deeply powerful
so. 

757
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,440
Yeah, yeah. 
I felt like I don't do a lot of 

758
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,600
gardening, but when you were 
talking about that person 

759
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,800
needing to get into the, you 
know, into the gardening, like 

760
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,800
that was his spiritual practice 
like that. 

761
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:43,000
Hit me. 
When you said that I do have 

762
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,040
plants that I care for but I 
don't consider myself a 

763
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,680
gardener, but it is definitely 
something that like I talked to 

764
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,760
my plans and I haven't seen 
Gloria in like 4 days and I'm 

765
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,000
outside every night. 
Like where are you? 

766
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,160
I love Gloria. 
My my frog friend who likes to 

767
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,480
Burrow herself in the soil 
around my palm tree. 

768
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,600
And I think for me, once I 
shifted my perspective to that, 

769
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,080
like, life got so much more 
beautiful and enjoyable that 

770
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,920
like, I tried to be mindful of 
everything around me and give 

771
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:25,320
thanks and acknowledge it. 
You know when a little bug is on

772
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,000
you, you like, oh, instead of, 
you know, you're like, say hello

773
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,680
to it. 
Yeah, I try to do that. 

774
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,680
I I will not kill a spider. 
And I think spiders are like the

775
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,520
best houseguests because they 
just clean up everything. 

776
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,760
Clean up all the ants and the 
bugs and the they're amazing 

777
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,520
little things. 
Ticks are the only thing I just,

778
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,640
oh, I'm just like crashing a 
tick the other day and I'm like,

779
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:57,040
I'm sorry, but you're the only 
little, but you can give a 

780
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,960
little blessing. 
You know, it's like that was the

781
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:03,120
other tip that a dog gave 
yesterday about food. 

782
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,960
They're talking about eating 
high residence food, food that's

783
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,000
grown with love, vegetables and 
things that are. 

784
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,160
But then they said, but also you
should say a blessing over your 

785
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,840
food. 
It's good for your physical 

786
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,000
health. 
I'm going to try to word it like

787
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,280
the dog did. 
It's good for your physical 

788
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,640
health to say more prayers over 
your food. 

789
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,120
Oh, that's so sweet. 
Like it, it raises the vibration

790
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,240
and sends blessings to your 
food, which will in turn nourish

791
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:35,280
your body in the deeper level. 
That's so sweet, I love that. 

792
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,720
I love that idea. 
I'll have to do that too. 

793
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,600
Yeah, I learned so much. 
Exactly. 

794
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,000
So today when I ate, I make 
sure, like, thank you. 

795
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,760
Yeah. 
A reminder because yeah, I'm 

796
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,440
yeah. 
In that practice. 

797
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,400
Or we associate that practice 
maybe with a religion from 

798
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,560
childhood that we're no longer 
practice, but we can do all 

799
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,480
these things however it feels 
right for us. 

800
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,720
So many people could benefit 
from this. 

801
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:09,040
Like even even skeptics can 
benefit from it, I think because

802
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,760
even if in the moment they're 
like, yeah, like they might 

803
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:20,960
start seeing patterns or like 
something that you are, you 

804
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:26,200
know, whoever they choose to 
work with said to them, they 

805
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:31,120
could start seeing that like, 
wait a minute, so and so said 

806
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,680
this and now my dog or, you 
know, my cat is doing, you know,

807
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,360
whatever. 
Like I think that. 

808
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,440
And any and everybody can 
benefit from the kind of work. 

809
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:49,840
Yeah, and I've been go of like 
my job like or my intention is 

810
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,760
not to just like convince anyone
that they should work with me. 

811
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,560
I feel like if I feel in 
residence, then you'll reach out

812
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,160
and you know, like spreading the
word about I do explaining what 

813
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,400
I do, but I'm not trying to like
sell anyone anything because it 

814
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,680
has to be in the time that's 
right for them. 

815
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,360
And I've also let go of like not
be it is not. 

816
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,520
It does not hurt me or offend me
If you are skeptical of what I 

817
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,120
do. 
Like that's your own journey. 

818
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,840
And it's not anything personal 
against me. 

819
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,960
How we talk. 
Like, you know, I would say like

820
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:33,760
95% of my clients are female. 
And yeah, there is like if 

821
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,280
they're males come in, it's 
usually like as a partner. 

822
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,680
And sometimes people say, or 
it'll come up in session. 

823
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,200
So their guides will tell me 
he's skeptical of you. 

824
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,400
He's like around the room, but 
he's skeptical of you. 

825
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,360
And I'm like, that's OK. 
Like it's fine. 

826
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,840
I'm just here to offer what 
comes through and then people 

827
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,000
can do what they want with it or
what feels in resonance with it.

828
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:04,160
I think it's beautiful and I I 
have worked with a handful of 

829
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,840
animal communicators and I will 
say like at the beginning I 

830
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,720
didn't know the things to ask, 
like to feel more comfortable. 

831
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:17,680
I guess I had a couple of, I 
don't want to say they were bad 

832
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,040
experiences, but I definitely 
had people who didn't do what 

833
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:27,800
you do as far as like asking 
permission, which I saw cause 

834
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,080
negative effects and and my 
animals, they didn't like that. 

835
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,360
They didn't want somebody coming
in and just like barging in 

836
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,160
without. 
No, you should ask permission 

837
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,560
then introduce yourself and let 
them know what's going on. 

838
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,920
And the animals are guiding the 
sessions for me. 

839
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:49,920
I'm never forcing anything and 
every step I'm asking animal 

840
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,600
permission and also asking if 
it's in the highest good for 

841
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,400
them because sometimes things 
are just too intense. 

842
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,760
I mean, we can't go into therapy
in a layer everything in one 

843
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,320
session. 
Like same for them. 

844
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,360
Like some stuff is maybe you 
don't want to go back to a 

845
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,680
traumatic event and go through 
that energy, you know, like, so 

846
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,920
yeah, everything needs to be 
done with respect. 

847
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,840
Yeah, no, it's hard for sure to 
do that, to go back and revisit.

848
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,440
It's like that that you haven't 
worked through at all. 

849
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,920
It's just like. 
So I imagine it is it is just as

850
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:30,120
difficult for them. 
But if people do feel called to 

851
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,480
learn more about your services 
or even just go ahead and book 

852
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,160
with you, where can they find 
you? 

853
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,680
Well, I'm on Instagram, magical.
Let's Michelle and then I have a

854
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,560
website that you can do online 
booking. 

855
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:50,160
It's just magical.lux.com and 
you can reach out by on my 

856
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,600
website or DM me on Instagram if
you have any questions at all. 

857
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,280
So I'm happy to share. 
That's awesome. 

858
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,000
It's also in the show notes for 
anybody who, if you happen to be

859
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,800
driving and you're not like 
writing stuff down, you can 

860
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,960
always go to the pet 
parentingreset.com and pull up 

861
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,880
the show and pull up the show 
notes and you'll see all of the 

862
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,680
information for Michelle there. 
And I just want to thank you 

863
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,920
again, because I, I personally 
feel like there are a handful of

864
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,720
things that I'm like, yes, I 
want to do this, I want to do 

865
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:23,960
that, I want to do this, I want 
to do that. 

866
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,200
And there are a couple of things
that I'm like, I definitely 

867
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,480
don't want to do. 
One of those things is like 

868
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:34,280
grief counseling. 
And, and I feel like that even 

869
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:40,120
even with connecting more in 
with myself, I couldn't, I don't

870
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:45,480
know that I could do what you do
as far as like the number of 

871
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,360
animals and people that you work
with and try like there's just 

872
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,520
so much room in there for I 
don't know, I just, I don't 

873
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,400
think. 
Yeah, it was like some like, I 

874
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,520
deeply care about everyone, but 
I also like, I think it comes 

875
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,880
down to trace that I just make 
an offering and then I have to 

876
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,920
release that they do with it. 
I can't hold on to controlling 

877
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:12,440
anything but outcome, you know? 
Yeah, I, I get that. 

878
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,400
I'm definitely not there. 
So I very, very much respect and

879
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,960
appreciate what you do. 
And I'm looking forward to the 

880
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,680
next time we meet for for 
Kimberly, which we'll probably 

881
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,120
be in a couple of months. 
So like, like the more that I 

882
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,200
connect with an animal too, it's
just like they open up more and 

883
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,640
like the other person that you 
just comes through. 

884
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,200
Yeah. 
And they'll, you know, be like, 

885
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,680
oh, I remember you. 
I like you, you know, for my 

886
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,080
amigo. 
That's fun to hear where I'm 

887
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,920
like, oh. 
Yeah, well, I mean, you're not 

888
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,800
going to like meet somebody for 
the first time and like, share 

889
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,400
your whole life story. 
That's not going to happen. 

890
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,560
Yeah, I mean, some some animals 
are chatty right away, but some,

891
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,200
you know, just like people. 
There's a doggy daycare where 

892
00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:59,920
I've been seeing like a lot of 
dogs at the daycare. 

893
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,240
So it's really fun because 
they'll like talk about each 

894
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:06,480
other and are like, you know, 
oh, I already know you so and so

895
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,320
told me about you like oh, OK, 
getting the know all of us. 

896
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,440
The daycare so cool that is so 
cool. 

897
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,040
I love that so much. 
And I do, I mean, after having 

898
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:23,600
had the session with you, I like
fully in support of it. 

899
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,480
And I think I told you like I 
don't like having people on that

900
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,040
I haven't used their product or 
service. 

901
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:36,680
And so I want to be able to say 
like, yes, I can. 

902
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:42,400
I can honestly say that like 
this was beneficial that I 

903
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,400
didn't find any like there 
wasn't anything negative like I 

904
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,280
was telling you, like the first 
couple of animal communicators I

905
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,520
worked with years ago. 
I there was definitely like 

906
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,000
blowback with my animals and. 
Like your animals start having 

907
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,360
behavioral like showing you that
they weren't happy. 

908
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,880
Really, really interesting. 
My cat Romeo, who just passed, I

909
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,680
had three different people, 
well, two animal communicators 

910
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,760
and one muscle tester will 
connect with him and did not 

911
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,680
like go through the process that
you and also Karen Dindy Smith 

912
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,920
did. 
So he was good with her and then

913
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:24,440
Kim was good with you where like
asking permission and you know, 

914
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,720
all of that like ritual thing 
that you do when you start. 

915
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:34,120
And he would literally walk 
around the entire room and spray

916
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:40,240
everywhere while in session. 
And in fact, the muscle tester, 

917
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:46,400
I, I knew exactly when she was 
tapping into him because she did

918
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,160
it remotely. 
I wasn't like on the phone or 

919
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,840
anything with her. 
She just did it on her own. 

920
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,200
I knew exactly when it was 
happening because he walked 

921
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,880
around the whole room. 
Sprain. 

922
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,000
Wow. 
Yeah, yeah, cats like to give 

923
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,160
strong messages with urine, 
unfortunately. 

924
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,200
Yes. 
I was like, I texted her or I 

925
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,280
got the e-mail from her the next
morning that like she had done 

926
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:13,920
blah, blah, blah, whatever. 
And I was like, OK, that's what 

927
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,400
happened. 
Oh my gosh, I love cats so much.

928
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,320
But that is unfortunate that 
that's the way they show their 

929
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,640
displeasure. 
Often it's and that is actually 

930
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,680
the ultimate thing when someones
like my cat stop peeing on 

931
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,960
something after our session. 
Like, that's like the Holy Grail

932
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:40,360
of like, accomplishments. 
Yes, believe me, I feel that on 

933
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,120
such a deep level. 
All right guys, please check out

934
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,600
magical mutts Michelle on 
Instagram, magical.mutts.com 

935
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:53,520
online and again, highly 
recommend her and I really look 

936
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,480
forward to hearing from you. 
What happens if you do book a 

937
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,520
session, but you obviously do 
not have to let me know, but I 

938
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:05,440
would love to hear about it. 
Thank you so much, Michelle. 

939
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,680
Do you have any like hurting 
words for anybody who like? 

940
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,280
I don't know. 
People often ask, like, what do 

941
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,480
I need to do to prepare for a 
session? 

942
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,120
And I say just come in with an 
open mind and open heart and 

943
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,920
that's it. 
That's it, I love it, an open 

944
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,320
mind and an open heart. 
And with that, you guys have a 

945
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,280
great rest of your week. 
Thank you so much for hanging 

946
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,040
out with us this week. 
Please give your pets some extra

947
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,000
love from me and Michelle this 
week. 

948
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,840
I will talk to you next week.