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Hey there, it's Jess. 
If you're new here, I'm a 

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certified professional canine 
nutritionist, raw nutrition 

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certified for dogs and cats, a 
holistic pet health coach, the 

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founder of Wild Wellness Pet, 
and the host of the Pet 

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If you've been feeling like 
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something better, a better way 
to raise healthier pets, welcome

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to the Pet Parenting Reset. 
Well, guys, thank you so much 

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for joining us today. 
If you're new here, my name is 

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Jessica. 
This is the Pet Parenting Reset.

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And today's guest is Jackie 
Jolie with Animal Soul. 

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And this is a totally new topic 
for the podcast, so I'm super, 

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super stoked to learn right 
alongside with you. 

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I got an e-mail the other day 
that said our animals are light 

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deprived. 
And I'm like, yes, I think so. 

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We're all we're light deprived, 
we're clean air deprived. 

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We're we're healthy soil 
deprived, like we're deprived of

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a lot. 
But I think I think light is 

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something that we really haven't
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So Jackie, thank you so much for
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And I would love to just learn a
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got into this field and then 
Start learning a little bit 

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about what it is. 
Yeah, thank you so much for 

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having me on. 
Of course, it's a pleasure and 

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my honor. 
I light up literally when I talk

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about and light. 
Hopefully everybody will be able

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to see and feel that on this 
episode. 

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Yeah. 
So my story, you know, like most

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readers, loved animals my whole 
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I wanted to be a vet as a kid. 
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way it's supposed to. 
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become a vet, But for the last 
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body worker for horses and dogs.
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cranial sacral, myofascial work,
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animals, which is just really 
rewarding because you get to see

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them compete and you get a lot 
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You're trying to maintain that 
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it's with rehab, injury, 
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When I went to school for this 
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just even in my practice, I knew
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As far as my education on red 
light therapy, and that's really

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all that was available for a 
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They work. 
I used them on a broken arm. 

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I've used them in practice 
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I didn't have the funds with my 
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in my practice, but did know 
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them. 
I didn't really learn light on 

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the bigger macro topic like you 
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being indoors more until I got 
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So I got Lyme disease six years 
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And because of the job I did, I 
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holistic healing, naturopathic 
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The allopathic system wants to 
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when you have Lyme disease. 
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think so. 
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found a whole herbal tincture 
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and I actually did like kill and
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through the herbal tinctures. 
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antibiotics, which was great, 
but I was left with a ton of 

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symptoms leftover. 
Now that I know what I know, the

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line really just like destroyed 
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I didn't know that at the time, 
but I just couldn't recover back

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into workouts. 
My hormones and cortisol and all

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that was just like on the floor.
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wanted to give me replacement 
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life. 
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healthy, you know, And that just
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either. 
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that turned me on to a topic 
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And if we open that can of worms
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eight more hours. 
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and talk about it at another 
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However, quantum biology works 
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water, and magnetism. 
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foundation of those pillars 
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three of them. 
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foundation of our health. 
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it, I made myself the Guinea 
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lifestyle changes and my health,
hormones, libido, brain fog, 

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energy recovery, all of that 
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months and then continue to just
optimize from there, where I'm 

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42 this year, my brain works 
like a Ferrari, my body works 

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like a Ferrari. 
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I think of things faster, I can 
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even could in my 20s. 
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changing my light life. 
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biology. 
I started teaching it to humans,

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trying to help family members. 
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like the invention of the red 
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There are people and get 
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sitting on the beach one day 
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It's the only way I know how to 
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And so that was about five years
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I started doing, you know, 
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manufacturing, LLC, patent 
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It's been about a five year 
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We launched in August of 2024 
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amazing. 
The healing cases that we've had

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has been amazing. 
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some of those examples when we 
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conversation. 
But that's kind of my story in a

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nutshell of where I've ended up.
And I really do have the goal of

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even though I produce a product 
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to, you know, injuries, illness,
this is it's going to bring that

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supplementation of light, which 
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But my larger mission truly is 
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biology and light environments 
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industry because nobody's 
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You're absolutely right that we 
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water, in our food, in our 
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sometimes, right? 
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health, we usually look at food,
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I am not knocking them. 
But light is the elephant in the

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room that nobody's addressing 
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we've just taken it for granted 
and it's the biggest effector of

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our health. 
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exercise and sleep so much 
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your light life right. 
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I know, you know, to get your, 
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your circadian rhythm right, you
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It's also great to get that like
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like, OK, it's time to chill. 
We're going to sleep soon. 

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You shouldn't eat unless it's 
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So like, I know these things. 
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industry for women, which is 
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there's a lot of light therapy 
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that's about the extent of what 
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And because of that, I know 
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have so many different UV's and 
there, there's a lot going on 

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out there. 
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One of well, let. 
Me back up a little, one of the 

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things that I talked to so many 
people about, especially indie 

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pet store owners who have been 
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decades, sometimes longer. 
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they could just switch a dog to 
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was great. 
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anymore. 
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just switching the diet And the,
it's, it's, it's been difficult 

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for a lot of people because it's
like pet parents will be like, 

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well, I switched to this diet. 
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Obviously that's not the right 
path to go because they're not 

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looking at it part it as part of
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So that's the, the, the thing 
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more about is the bigger picture
and that, yes, we do need this 

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piece, but we also need this 
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piece and that piece and light 
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many reasons. 
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something that I think I'm not, 
I'm not a huge fan of 

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biohackers. 
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of it is male driven and, and 
females need different things 

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than males. 
And as far as humans are 

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concerned, I don't know that 
that's always necessarily the 

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case with with our dogs or even 
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our cats actually like. 
We could go down a whole, whole 

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rabbit hole. 
The yard with the spay, neuters 

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and rum and dogs are very 
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Yes, right. 
So I can totally see how having 

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certain foundational pieces in 
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work better. 
Because I know like, I have so 

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many clients of my own that I'm 
like, we're doing XY and Z, then

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we're getting great results. 
But like, we need that thing 

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that's going to get us to the 
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And it's different for every 
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Well, those are all really great
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There's a lot there for sure, 
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than some other practitioners 
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circadian. 
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coming on to the mainstream, but
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And you're definitely right, as 
well as pointing to like there's

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some pet parents that are doing 
everything right, right? 

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Just like some of our human 
athletes, they are on the best 

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diet, they've got the best 
workout, they've got the best 

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trainer, the best recovery 
tools, even in the biohacking 

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field, right? 
But if they don't have their 

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light life, right, they still 
get cancer or they still 

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breakdown, right? 
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animals are getting sicker and 
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ages, just like our human 
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And we're throwing tons of money
down the throat of supplements, 

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fecal transplants, like we have 
gone to that extreme, right? 

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Not just say that they don't 
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Why do we have to do that? 
Like what is the root cause 

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there of like, why do we have to
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that microbiome, right? 
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to the light connection. 
We are so disconnected from that

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light, water and magnetism 
that's natural outside with 

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nature. 
And so that will always be our 

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push from a company. 
Yes, I made a product that I'm 

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selling and you could 
technically consider it a 

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biohack, right? 
Because that's what red light 

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therapy is even for humans. 
But the biohack, I never want it

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to be the dependent right? 
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preach, if you don't have the 
money but you want to change 

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your pets life in your life, get
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Get outside as often and 
frequent as you possibly can, 

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even in the middle of the day. 
You need those UVA and UVB rays 

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as well. 
And get your bare feet and their

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bare paws on the ground so they 
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as well from the Schumann 
resonance and you will see your 

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health just flourish. 
However, the modern world's not 

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going anywhere. 
I can't ask 2 pet parents that 

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work full time jobs and have to 
leave their dog at home or cat 

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or bird or whatever it is that's
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lifestyle. 
And there's also plenty of 

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animals that are sick, injured 
or performance animals now that 

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need that boost now. 
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conversation of, you know, we're
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things just aren't really still.
We're still on that hamster 

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wheel. 
Like there's something just 

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still missing. 
I always like to thank people, 

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take people back to let's think 
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popular on the farms, let's say 
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678 years of age, cancer tumors,
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diabetes, metabolic issues. 
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Even if he had some lumps and 
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around doing just fine. 
And he was probably eating, Oh, 

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Roy, right? 
Like some of the worst kibble 

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you possibly get on the market. 
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as many issues, right? 
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modern humans have forgotten we 
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So what works for us works for 
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What works for pets works for 
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cycles and hormones and things 
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well. 
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on the fact that we have come 
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of that. 
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changing our environment, which 
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Genes load the gun and account 
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influences so much more than you
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environment. 
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over that 80% of your health and
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When I say you, I'm talking 
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environment for the pets, guess 
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So if we want to break down kind
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light and then light therapy, 
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back to biology school, when we 
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which was the sun, that's the 
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Roy GB Red, orange, yellow, 
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They're called photons of light.
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instructions to our bodies. 
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thousand, 2015. 
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single cell of our body. 
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gut cell, an eye cell, an 
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single cell has a melanopsin and
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not out underneath the full 
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by itself, which is actually 
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your tech screens, those all 
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wavelength. 
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blue light blockers, right? 
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just monochromatic light ever. 
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spectrum outside. 
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you mentioned before, you have a
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Hey, Pop, she's like, I want to 
be heard too. 

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They usually do that on 
podcasts. 

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I'm used to that. 
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have a dominance of red and the 
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wavelengths. 
That's why they've now been 

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turned into therapeutic devices.
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sunset now you still have red 
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When you have UVA and UVB, those
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since the 30s after just one 
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and we can discuss that if you 
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That UVB was bad for us. 
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to make your vitamin D, you need
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sexual hormones, and you need UV
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melatonin in your body, which 
melatonin is what helps you 

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rest. 
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apoptosis and autophagy through 
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turns on after you've had two 
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Now look at our modern life. 
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time. 
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different things that we can 
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lifestyle in regards to a light 
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And we can also add on the 
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grounded to the earth. 
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time, which is also very 
inflammatory to our mitochondria

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and cellular water. 
That's probably a topic for a 

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quantum biology podcast. 
I want us to focus on light 

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today, but that is a part of 
that spectrum of our environment

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as well that I want to mention. 
So red light and near infrared 

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light, obviously deepest 
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investment that you could 
possibly get. 

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The only product that's been 
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70s were lasers and we still 
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They do work. 
I'm not here to knock them by 

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any means. 
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has to have them and you have to
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that treatment. 
That becomes inconvenient time 

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wise for the practitioner. 
They also have to charge the 

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consumer a decent amount of 
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they need to pay back the very 
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in. 
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pet parent that has to get to 
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horse three or four times a 
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When you're sick and you need 
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becomes inconvenient and 
expensive. 

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On top of that, they're so 
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cause damage. 
I've seen lasers blow through 

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ligaments and tendons and create
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I've seen them burn hair. 
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device that you have to be very 
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You can't use it on cancer 
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You can't use it on parts of the
body that have had metal put 

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into it from, you know, car 
accident or an injury or 

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surgery. 
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limited. 
LE DS were created, gosh, close 

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to 30 years ago. 
We have them, you know, in our 

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flashlights and our light bulbs 
and you can use them now as a 

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therapeutic device. 
A lot of people, as you 

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mentioned, you see the masks 
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collagen production and anti 
aging. 

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There's athletes, pro athletes 
are using red light therapy 

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panels for healing, recovery, 
performance enhancement. 

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Red light can do all of that all
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There's over 7000 scientific 
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photobiomodulation, which is the
scientific term of light therapy

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using all different colors of 
light. 

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And so there's plenty of science
to prove behind it. 

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The way that we designed our 
products being full body 

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wireless, 5 wavelengths, 2 to 
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because I have the larger 
picture of yes, red and near 

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infrared light therapy. 
You can use that for healing and

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recovery and performance 
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production all day every day. 
It'll do that all the time. 

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We need to actually start seeing
light as a supplement because we

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are deficient in it. 
Even your two year old puppy dog

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that has no arthritis, no 
sicknesses, no illnesses because

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they live indoors, they are 
daily deficient in red and near 

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infrared light therapy. 
And so if you can get your light

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life right, which the body 
responds to light the fastest, 

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the strongest and with LE DS, 
you have no risk of harm. 

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You have no risk of overdosage. 
It's safe and effective for the 

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pet parent to have at home. 
Get your light life right and 

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then see if you still need 
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like, you know, supplements or 
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or if you do have a cancer case 
and they're doing radiation, red

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light therapy is a great way to 
support the nausea and the 

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decrease of energy that's going 
to happen with the mitochondria.

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Any questions on kind of like 
that's the full spectrum. 

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Those are the wavelengths. 
They kind of come in with 

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directions. 
They are innervating directly 

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with the mitochondria. 
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It's coming into the 
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do its job better and faster. 
And mitochondria, as we also 

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learned in biology school, it 
does make the ATP and energy for

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the cell, but it does many other
things. 

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It's there to help support the 
trigger for apoptosis and 

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autophagy at night if you get 
nighttime darkness. 

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It also creates heat in the form
of circulation and near infrared

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light. 
And then it also hydrates your 

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cells in the form of cellular 
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So in biology school, we were 
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forms of water, Solid, liquid 
gas. 

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There's actually a fourth stage 
of water called easy water, 

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which stands for exclusion zone 
water. 

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It's like plasma, like very 
jello, like all of your cells 

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have it and that is your 
bodyguard around the cell to 

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block out viruses, toxins, 
bacteria, you know, just garbage

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that comes into the body from 
our environment. 

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You want that cellular water 
thick and large around the cell.

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And so red light, red in the 
infrared light does that. 

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It builds that easy water. 
So you can get that from the 

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sun, you can get it from 
grounding, you can get it from a

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red light therapy device. 
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Zaps it. 
No light exposure, no natural 

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light exposure, and 5G and Wi-Fi
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So think of everybody getting 
sicker and sicker and not being 

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able to be exposed to viruses 
and bacteria and Lyme and all 

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these things. 
I've had five other tick bites 

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now and never come down with 
Lyme because my redox is so high

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to protect me from that. 
So I do see a lot of people who 

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are posting like they are 
switching out their light bulbs 

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in their house to red light 
light bulbs. 

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I know there are devices like 
like you've talked about. 

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One of the questions that I have
is, yeah, it sounds like red 

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light is incredibly beneficial 
for a lot of different things. 

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Having the full spectrum of 
light like we also want that too

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correct or. 
Yes, it's very yes, you're 

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correct on that. 
Absolutely great question. 

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Red and the infrared definitely 
are the deepest absorbing and 

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the most healing. 
Even when you look at your 

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blue-green indigos, those only 
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So they're very surface level, 
but they are important in 

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nature. 
It's very hard to capture UV and

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LE DS. 
It just hasn't been done well 

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yet. 
You can obviously get it in 

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bulbs like if you think about 
your tanning bed, but those are 

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only blue so you don't want that
that is inflammatory. 

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That's how they showed that mice
got tumors back in the 30s for 

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UVB is bad because they only 
we're only illuminating them 

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with UVB bulbs which were 
inflammatory and mice are 

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nocturnal and white and they 
respond differently than us, 

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right. 
So anyways, it is important and 

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that's why we'll still teach 
people you need to be getting 

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outside and getting that full 
spectrum. 

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But the wavelengths that we 
would have been bathing in 24/7 

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when we used to live, breathe, 
build, you know, reproduce and 

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work outside was truly near 
infrared. 

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Actually, all of the plants in 
the living things outside absorb

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it and reflect it back. 
We absorb it and reflect it 

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back. 
The sun gives it to you all day 

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long. 
The moon actually reflects near 

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infrared light. 
So we are very, very deficient 

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in the near infrared, which is 
truly going to activate that 

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mitochondria in the cell. 
But yes, you're correct that we 

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do need the full spectrum and we
always promote people to get 

455
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,200
that with them and their pets as
often as possible. 

456
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:51,600
So OK, we've got Wi-Fi, 5G, 
we've got they are talking about

457
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,640
wanting to block the sun and we 
have weather modification making

458
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,160
weird fake clouds. 
So all of these things are 

459
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:06,000
keeping us like further and 
further disconnected from 

460
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,560
nature, which is healing. 
So nature is healing nature like

461
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,920
humans, dogs, cats, every living
animal. 

462
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,680
Like we're actually designed to 
live out in nature. 

463
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,520
I don't want to, I'm going to be
honest. 

464
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,600
Like it is West too cold most of
the time I don't want to be 

465
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,240
outside. 
I am. 

466
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,840
So like today is the first warm 
day we've had and I don't know 

467
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,640
how long. 
I was actually in Texas for a 

468
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,720
few days and it was warm there. 
And I'm like, I came back here 

469
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,640
and it was cold and I'm like, 
no. 

470
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,200
I hate that. 
I hate this so much because I 

471
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,360
love being outside. 
I love being, I love feeling 

472
00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:51,160
the, the warmth of the sun and 
it like I'm just so, so excited 

473
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,560
for spring and summer because I 
want to be outside again. 

474
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,320
And I've felt it like this is 
just a tangent I'm on right now.

475
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,520
I have felt it like being back. 
This is my first year back in 

476
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,120
Virginia for a very, very long 
time and I have been stuck 

477
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:07,840
indoors all winter and I'm 
feeling it in so many different 

478
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,080
ways. 
And so, OK, all of the things I 

479
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,320
listed, the 5G, the Wi-Fi, the 
blocking of the sun, the all of 

480
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:20,680
the things that we can argue if 
they're intentional or not, I 

481
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,240
think they're intentional. 
But anyway, we've got to get 

482
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,720
around it. 
We've got to figure something 

483
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,280
else out. 
I am literally like top of mind 

484
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:35,640
for me this week has been I need
to redesign my living space 

485
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,200
because I do want to black 
everything out at night and I 

486
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,320
don't want all of the blue light
all day long. 

487
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,160
And I don't want to be like I 
need the little EMF sticker 

488
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,160
thingies to put on my router or 
my phone or whatever. 

489
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,840
Like this is like top of mind 
for me this week and I'm looking

490
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,880
at a Schumann resonance device 
and I'm looking at like, I'm 

491
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,160
looking at all of these things 
and I'm like, this is 

492
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,240
overwhelming. 
But I'm so glad that I have the 

493
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,720
wherewithal to be like, I know I
need all of these things, 

494
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,880
whether I get them naturally or 
I bring them in somehow into my 

495
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,400
life artificially. 
And it's not just for me, it's 

496
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:23,560
for my pets as well because I'm 
seeing their decline like their 

497
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,720
overall healthy and all, but 
like, they're my cat is about to

498
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,760
be 18, My dog is about to be 13.
And I'm just like, I need to do 

499
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,040
better for them while I'm also 
doing better for myself. 

500
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:44,040
And So what are your actual like
average everyday person? 

501
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,800
Like what should we be doing to 
combat all of these things in 

502
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,960
our environment that are keeping
us disconnected, that are 

503
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,640
keeping a sick? 
Yes, well, that'll definitely 

504
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,280
answer things a little further 
from just red light therapy 

505
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,600
devices, which I'm happy to do. 
And this will be the education 

506
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,320
as a company we will be starting
soon. 

507
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,240
I want to start posting everyday
teaching about it. 

508
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,240
I have a speaking opportunity at
the Feed Real Summit in San 

509
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,160
Diego in October and I plan to 
have a full presentation ready 

510
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,280
then. 
And like PDFs to give pet 

511
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,760
parents of things they can do in
the home to change not just 

512
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,640
bringing red light therapy in 
for therapy, but to actually 

513
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,040
change the whole light 
environment. 

514
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,880
So over all of those things #1 
one, nothing can ever replace 

515
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,840
nature like no man made device 
can ever replace the sun, ever 

516
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,760
replace the human resonance, 
like none of it like ever. 

517
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,640
So if you can just get outside 
as like there's two things, 

518
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,080
three things sunrise, sunrise, 
sunrise. 

519
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,360
Like that is how important 
sunrise is for your health over 

520
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,400
everything else. 
So sunrise is where you're going

521
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,760
to set your circadian clocks, 
You're going to get the most red

522
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,040
in your infrared wavelengths you
can possibly get in your body. 

523
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,800
Go outside, no sunglasses, no 
sunscreen, as little bit of 

524
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,240
clothing as possible for where 
you live at that season of the 

525
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,280
year and get 10 to 15 minutes if
you're super sick. 

526
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,080
Just so you know, if your pets 
or you are super sick, you need 

527
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,080
more light. 
You're going to have to schedule

528
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,400
it into your life period. dot 
dash. 

529
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,120
I had to do it for Lyme. 
Now I can get away with like a 

530
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:14,600
couple of days of missing light,
right? 

531
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,160
So sunrise, sunrise, sunrise, 
before you turn on any other 

532
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,400
light, before you look at a 
screen, before you eat, before 

533
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,680
you have your coffee, all of it 
10-15 minutes, 20-30 if you're 

534
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,640
sick. 
OK, Try to make that your daily 

535
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,760
new habit. 
I promise you, you won't have 

536
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,760
the afternoon slump. 
You will sleep better, and you 

537
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,080
will start to feel better pretty
quickly. 

538
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,720
Light works very, very fast. 
So that's number one. 

539
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:42,600
Sunrise, sunrise, sunrise, as 
important than #2 get outside as

540
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,920
often as possible as you can and
get your pets outside as often 

541
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,720
as possible as you can with bare
feet and bare paws on the ground

542
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,120
as often as possible. 
If you work, take a light break 

543
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,520
instead of a smoke break. 
People go out, you know, every 

544
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000
hour to smoke a cigarette. 
You go out every hour to get 

545
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,160
some sunlight. 
Take your sunglasses off, roll 

546
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,040
up your sleeves, take your shoes
off if you can. 

547
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Who cares if you look like the 
weirdo? 

548
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,800
You're getting healthier for 
free. 

549
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,000
It doesn't cost anything. 
OK, so sunrise, get outside as 

550
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,880
much as possible, and then you 
want to make your nights dark. 

551
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,360
So we do have circadian clocks. 
All mammalians have circadian 

552
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,760
clocks, nocturnal animals. 
All these here are slightly 

553
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,320
different, but there's not that 
many of those. 

554
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,040
Most of us have clocks that all 
of our systems run off of to 

555
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,000
where you should have 12:00-ish 
hours of daylight and 12:00-ish 

556
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,880
hours of darkness depending on 
time of the year and where you 

557
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,200
live. 
That means at night you don't 

558
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,400
need to have these bright lights
on above you. 

559
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,520
Like try to make the house dark.
Our ancestors used to use fire 

560
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,080
candles and then when lights 
first came out they were 

561
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,840
incandescent bulbs. 
Now the United States have made 

562
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,720
those illegal because they're 
supposed to be more expensive, 

563
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,360
but a couple of cents on your 
electricity bill is way cheaper 

564
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,560
than cancer. 
You can still get them off of 

565
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,160
Amazon. 
I have links that can help 

566
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,160
people with that. 
But try to make your nights 

567
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,520
dark. 
Put on red light bulbs. 

568
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,000
Red is not going to interfere 
with your circadian rhythms at 

569
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,480
night. 
OK, darkness, light, blocking 

570
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,040
glasses, when your screen's red 
on your computer, on your 

571
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,240
phones, there's all kinds of 
free programs that will do that 

572
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,600
now and then. 
Turning off your Wi-Fi. 

573
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,560
I never have my Wi-Fi on unless 
I'm using it, and then I'm 

574
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,320
hardwired into it as well. 
So when you're sleeping, you 

575
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,960
don't need your Wi-Fi on. 
So it's just being inflammatory 

576
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,120
to you and your pet parents. 
If you think it's going to be 

577
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,720
hard to remember to do it or you
have a husband that wants to 

578
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,840
complain about it, get your 
little Christmas timers for 

579
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,240
Christmas tree lights and put 
that on the outlet for your 

580
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,480
router and turn it off at 10:00 
at night when you go to bed, bed

581
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,080
and let it turn back on at 8:00 
in the morning and at least do 

582
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,040
that. 
But if you leave your house and 

583
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,280
your pets are just sitting at 
your house and your Wi-Fi is on,

584
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,640
just turn it off. 
That is inflammatory to their 

585
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,880
body and it will cause cancer 
and brain tumors and arthritis 

586
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,680
because it raises the calcium in
the blood in the body. 

587
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,600
We have pets getting 
osteoarthritis AT234 and five 

588
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,200
years of age now, horses as 
well. 

589
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,560
It's insane. 
That never happened. 

590
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,200
So those are just a couple of 
like the quantum rules and 

591
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,120
lifestyle rules that I 
definitely like to give out 

592
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,960
there. 
They're free. 

593
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,920
They're just lifestyle changes, 
right? 

594
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,880
And you will see a difference. 
And once you get into that 

595
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,600
habit, I promise you, you'll 
fall in love with it. 

596
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,280
I never used to be a morning 
person. 

597
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,640
My non negotiables in life now 
is always a morning walk with my

598
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,320
dogs no matter what, before I do
anything in life. 

599
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,280
My nights are very dark. 
This whole room turns red with a

600
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,960
red light bulb when I need to 
work at night. 

601
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,360
And I love nature like I, I, I 
drive to go out in nature all 

602
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,080
the time. 
I'm on 70 acres right now, so I 

603
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,200
don't so I can be surrounded by 
nature and and even the cold 

604
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,840
exposure actually is very 
healthy for us. 

605
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,480
We, we get cold easily now 
because we have no thermal 

606
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,280
regulation. 
So in our modern world, along 

607
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,040
with our modern light bulbs, we 
keep our house and our car in 

608
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,160
our office at a balmy 72° year 
round. 

609
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,120
That would have never happened 
outside. 

610
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,840
So like the winter here, my 
thermostat is at 59 all winter 

611
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,200
long. 
Now I've built up to that. 

612
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,240
I couldn't do that in the 
beginning, but I put on wool 

613
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,280
clothes, you know, and I comfy 
up with the blankets and I have 

614
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,840
a fireplace. 
I get the fire going. 

615
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,640
That cold exposure connects with
your mitochondria as well. 

616
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,760
And when your body can 
comfortably thermoregulate, you 

617
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,600
don't have to do all the cold 
plunges and all the crazy 

618
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,880
extremes. 
Just regular cold exposure on a 

619
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,560
daily basis in the winter will 
keep you healthy. 

620
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,040
Same with or pets, they need the
same thing. 

621
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,320
Horses with big fur coats don't 
need blankets, they are just 

622
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,640
fine. 
Dogs with big fur coats don't 

623
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,960
need blankets, they are just 
fine. 

624
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,760
They were built for it. 
So we have to kind of get back 

625
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,760
to like what it was before 
nature, before humans kind of 

626
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,040
got involved and before we got a
little weaker, honestly by our 

627
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,320
indoor lifestyle. 
And, and you'll just do better. 

628
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,200
You'll thrive. 
Yeah. 

629
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,920
So you, you mentioned earlier 
about a lot of the downside of 

630
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,560
lasers, even though they're 
amazing, they can do really 

631
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,200
wonderful things. 
You talked about the downside. 

632
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,520
So what? 
What have you done differently? 

633
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,800
Yeah. 
So our products, number one, are

634
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,040
built with LE DS. 
So there's no thermal effect. 

635
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,480
There's never going to overheat 
or anything like that. 

636
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,880
You don't actually want to 
overheat soft tissue injuries or

637
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,880
cancerous tumors. 
So this is a very low level 

638
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,280
light that provides to the body.
So LEDs so they're safe and 

639
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,680
effective. 
You can look at them, you can 

640
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,960
stare at them. 
You don't have to have any 

641
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,680
safety goggles. 
You can't cause any type of 

642
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,440
overdosage or harm. 
The cell basically can only fill

643
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,720
up with so much light at one 
time. 

644
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,280
It needs to integrate it into 
the body and then you're ready 

645
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,320
for another session. 
And so all of ours are 

646
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,760
programmed for 15 minutes turns 
off on its own. 

647
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,000
We also programmed our blankets 
to have a 2 to one ratio of near

648
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,880
infrared to red. 
Now a lot of products on the 

649
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,640
market are getting away with 
calling it red light therapy. 

650
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,120
And they're only giving you red 
light wavelength LED's. 

651
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,480
And so you always want to make 
sure the wavelengths are giving 

652
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,480
you because if they're only 
giving you red, red does work, 

653
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,760
but it's a very small piece of 
the spectrum and it only goes 5 

654
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,720
to 10mm into the tissue. 
So very surface level stuff. 

655
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,440
It's not going to help nerves or
vertebrae's or paralysis or go 

656
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,880
as deep as organs and bone 
marrow. 

657
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,200
The near infrared can penetrate 
up to 50mm into the tissue, 

658
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,400
which can get to organs, bone 
marrow, nerves, vertebrae, 

659
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,680
things like that. 
So we have two to one near 

660
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,120
infrared to red. 
So you're getting more near 

661
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,040
infrared. 
And then we also put 5 

662
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,560
wavelengths in our device. 
A lot of lasers and other red 

663
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,000
light therapy products only have
one to three wavelengths. 

664
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,199
They all do work, but but having
5 is way more similar to what 

665
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:23,360
the animal would be getting 
outside as far as multiple 

666
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,239
wavelengths at one time. 
So the body responds better to 

667
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,520
that. 
As well as we put the 810 

668
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,120
nanometer into our product, 
which is a near infrared 

669
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,800
wavelength and it's been proven 
in studies to actually cross 

670
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,159
deep enough through the skull. 
The skull is very thick. 

671
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,199
So that means we can work on 
cognitive issues, brain tumors, 

672
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:42,639
head trauma, but I'm guaranteed 
that that's going to get down to

673
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:44,280
the bone marrow and the nerve to
the spine. 

674
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,760
So we've helped paralysis, IVPD,
gut issues, and Speaking of gut,

675
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,120
we also patented our design. 
It's a full body design for that

676
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,400
supplement for the whole body as
a systemic effect. 

677
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,120
Lasers are only an isolated 
place, but we also patented a 

678
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,080
belly band into our design. 
So no therapeutic blankets on 

679
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,440
the market have a belly band. 
They forgot about the ventral 

680
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,440
line of the animal. 
So we have musculature there, we

681
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,680
have organs and we have the gut 
microbiome. 

682
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,360
I'm sure most of us, as you know
and your followers know, the gut

683
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,480
is very important to our health.
It's the second brain, right? 

684
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,920
And not just the microbiome 
there to digest and absorb 

685
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,920
nutrients, but our immune system
is made there, our sexual 

686
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,480
hormones are made there for 
vitality and longevity and our 

687
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,320
feel good hormones. 
So like tryptophan, dopamine, 

688
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,000
serotonin. 
So if you think of animals that 

689
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,360
are anxious or aggressive or 
behavioral issues, there could 

690
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,600
be something going on in the 
gut. 

691
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,000
And we can now directly 
innervate with that. 

692
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,880
Because remember I said earlier,
every cell has a melanopsin. 

693
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,560
So every gut cell has a light 
sensor. 

694
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,560
When's the last time you put 
your belly in the sun? 

695
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,080
When's the last time your pet 
has their belly in the sun? 

696
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,040
My dogs go out and they lay and 
literally lay with their belly 

697
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,000
up to the sun for 30 minutes. 
When we have sunshine here, they

698
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,520
know. 
Like we don't have to tell the 

699
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,600
animals how we help you, right? 
Like they know we make it very 

700
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,960
complicated as humans. 
Our device is wireless so it's 

701
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,120
very convenient hands free. 
But that also takes away any any

702
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,040
risks of having non-native EMF. 
So Wi-Fi modem, smart devices 

703
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,800
and anything plugged into a wall
will create a non-native EMF, 

704
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,960
which is a non-native 
electromagnetic field. 

705
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,760
We have the Schumann resonance, 
which is a natural magnetic 

706
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,240
field that's healing. 
Anything plugged into a wall is 

707
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,360
usually higher and can be 
inflammatory. 

708
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,040
So you want to make sure any 
product you're buying that plugs

709
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,440
into the wall that the company 
is talking about non-native BM 

710
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,400
FS and what they're rating is. 
So yeah, that's basically kind 

711
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,840
of what our products are. 
I have a little model and a 

712
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,000
blanket here if you want it on 
screen. 

713
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,880
I don't remember if you guys 
have people that watch or just, 

714
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:48,440
but yeah, we have dog blankets, 
we have a cat pad, we have horse

715
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,320
leg wraps and bell boots. 
And we just released our big 

716
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,520
huge horse blanket that also has
a belly band. 

717
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,360
And then I will be coming out 
with a human blanket in about 30

718
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,240
to 60 days. 
Oh nice, I well and everything 

719
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:05,320
you've been talking about that 
my head has gone towards cats 

720
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,000
because I can get outside, I can
make sure my dog is getting 

721
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,280
outside. 
I do let my cat outside 

722
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:20,120
supervised sometimes, but a lot 
of people don't have, yeah, 

723
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400
like, you know, I have a 
backyard that I can do that in. 

724
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,280
If you're living in a condo or a
high rise or an apartment or a 

725
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,200
town, like you may not have the 
ability to do that with your 

726
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,920
cat. 
And so I'm, I'm thinking about 

727
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:36,240
them because even I honestly 
have no idea. 

728
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:37,960
I'm like, this is just off the 
top of my head. 

729
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,160
I know that in vehicles there 
are UV blockers in the the 

730
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,680
windows in the glass. 
I think I'm like, I don't know, 

731
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,280
maybe there are in our windows 
in our house too. 

732
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,480
I have no idea. 
So we're we're getting some UV 

733
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,920
rays and not others. 
That's a whole thing where they 

734
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,560
were trying to get us to to 
believe that we needed 

735
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,920
sunscreen, which, yes, that's a 
whole other tangent, but I'm 

736
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,280
like, what do we do with our 
cats? 

737
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,920
Yeah, it's hard with the cats, 
right? 

738
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,720
And I mean, if you think about 
Wildcats out in the wild have 

739
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:14,560
renal disease. 
They don't have metabolic 

740
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,440
issues. 
They're not obese, they don't 

741
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,840
have arthritis. 
And so, yeah. 

742
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,440
But the cats, it's hard not to 
answer your question. 

743
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,280
On the windows, all of our 
modern windows, just like modern

744
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,040
light bulbs, they do not let red
and the infrared light through 

745
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,400
because it's more green, right? 
Like the infrared would let heat

746
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,600
through, sort of try to protect 
the insulation in your house. 

747
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,560
So the only thing that gets 
through is blue. 

748
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,480
So we are just very blue light, 
toxic human animals and pets 

749
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,800
because of our tech screens, the
light bulbs and what comes to 

750
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,480
the windows. 
Now, if you live in an old house

751
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,280
that has old windows or maybe 
single pane windows, you're 

752
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,240
probably getting some good red 
and the infrared. 

753
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,080
So, yeah, for cats, this is a 
really great supplement. 

754
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,800
We've seen great success with 
cats that have renal issues, 

755
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,400
urinary tract issues just by 
getting them on the mat. 

756
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,880
And you know, you can put that 
on a window sill and their bed 

757
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,040
and their pet carrier and they 
really usually like go straight 

758
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,800
for it. 
I mean, the animals kind of know

759
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,040
what they're wanting. 
It's a great cats. 

760
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,200
I love that. 
I love it. 

761
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:16,240
I am so appreciative of you 
coming on and and talking about 

762
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:19,920
this. 
I was going through just some of

763
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,400
the stuff on your website 
talking about how it helps whole

764
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,360
body circulation. 
You've talked a lot about injury

765
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:30,760
recovery, muscle relaxation. 
One thing that I was just 

766
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:37,600
talking to somebody about, oh, I
did a video report review for 

767
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,800
somebody this morning who did 
one of my bioenergetic testing 

768
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,240
kits and this poor dog. 
I'm just looking at everything 

769
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,280
and I'm like, so many organ 
systems are stressed. 

770
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:54,160
But overall I'm looking at this 
like in, in Chinese medicine, 

771
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,960
I'm looking at this animal who 
is stuck and I'm like, we need 

772
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,400
to get their lymphatic system 
moving. 

773
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,360
And it's something that I, I 
don't hear a lot about. 

774
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,160
So I don't know, I'm maybe, I'm 
sure there are some people out 

775
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,720
there talking about it, but. 
Probably more for humans than 

776
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:17,320
animals, but I'm wondering like 
if this is getting circulation 

777
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,720
going, if this is, this is also 
going to help our help our 

778
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:22,760
lymphatic system because I'm 
over here with a freaking what 

779
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,160
it what do they call them now? 
The the the vibration plane. 

780
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,120
I love those so much. 
You're on the full biohacking 

781
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,600
chain. 
It's OK, I like it. 

782
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,880
I love those. 
I have an old style rebounder as

783
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,800
well that I jump on for lymph. 
And you're right. 

784
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,400
And actually on the human side, 
lymph is not mentioned as much 

785
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,360
as it should in the naturopathic
side. 

786
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,400
There's definitely a lot more of
it now, but regular doctors like

787
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,200
like it's in our body, it's all 
over our body. 

788
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,080
And like it's very, it's, it's 
rarely mentioned until you have 

789
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,560
cancer and it goes, oh, it 
reached into your lymph system. 

790
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,920
Oh, well, could we keep that 
clean beforehand? 

791
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,040
You know, And so sunlight will 
already activate that and UV 

792
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,040
will activate that. 
And obviously movement, you 

793
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,760
know, any type of jumping, 
rebounding, but red light 

794
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,480
therapy and especially getting 
it as a full blanket like this, 

795
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,440
as a full body, it's going to 
activate that lymphatic drainage

796
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,720
as well. 
And we just have to be careful 

797
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:18,200
to not be over burdening the 
body with, you know, more 

798
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,480
supplements or medications cuz 
all that's doing is 

799
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,720
overburdening the liver and 
kidney. 

800
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,480
And we don't know what they need
or don't need or if it's working

801
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,880
or how long to stay on it, you 
know, And so the light will help

802
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,080
get that going. 
Awesome, awesome. 

803
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Well, I appreciate it so much. 
I actually would love to have 

804
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,600
you come back and talk about 
quantum biology if my listeners 

805
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,800
are OK with it, because I am 
fall into this. 

806
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,720
One of the things that I said in
my for 2025, I wanted to bring 

807
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:52,520
more human perspective into the 
podcast because we can't care 

808
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,640
for our pets if we're not caring
for ourselves. 

809
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,600
This year was more a little bit 
more about trying to reach new 

810
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,720
people. 
I feel like in the healthy pet 

811
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:06,080
space, that's just what I call 
it. 

812
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,120
The like 2 point O pet parents. 
I feel like we've kind of gotten

813
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,040
into like this little echo 
chamber and I want to get out of

814
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:21,960
that echo chamber, but we need 
to, in my opinion, like I think 

815
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,880
the word holistic has kind of 
been our lack of a better word, 

816
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,360
bastardized a little bit because
we have been indoctrinated for 

817
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:36,240
so long into a pharmaceutical 
mindset for this is a symptom. 

818
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:37,800
This is what I take for the 
symptom. 

819
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,280
And it's really hard to get 
people out of that thought 

820
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,640
process. 
They come to the holistic space 

821
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,720
and they're like, OK, what herb 
can I take for the symptom? 

822
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,760
And it's like, that's not how 
this works, right? 

823
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,760
We have like, there's a whole 
world of things that we're 

824
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,360
missing that we're not 
addressing. 

825
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,920
So I love that you're bringing 
light into this because I think 

826
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,400
it it's fundamental. 
It's one of those things that 

827
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,680
least you said at the very 
beginning, we just kind of 

828
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,240
overlook it and take it for 
granted. 

829
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:11,880
But I mean, without sunlight, 
without clean air, without clean

830
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:17,200
water, we've got nothing. 
Yeah, yeah, nothing at. 

831
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,040
All so. 
No, you're spot on to that. 

832
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,080
You know it. 
I love the word holistic because

833
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,960
it is true. 
Like you're looking at the whole

834
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,040
body because it is all connected
in our allopathic system. 

835
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,760
They see it as systems, you 
know, even though this is all 

836
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,040
connected, but it was because 
they called us alternative 

837
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,560
initially an alternative made us
sound, you know, woo woo or like

838
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,440
not good enough. 
So we had to come up with a 

839
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,680
better term, which is where 
holistic came from. 

840
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,400
The funny thing is the 
allopathic system is the 

841
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,960
alternative system. 
That was not what was around 

842
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,320
before. 
It was herbs and plants and 

843
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,000
sunlight and water and medicine 
that already grows in nature and

844
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,320
nature's perfect. 
She makes no mistakes, right? 

845
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,200
So they're actually, I always 
like to stand on that hill and 

846
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,120
say they're the alternative ones
actually. 

847
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,960
And, and sometimes regular 
medicine is needed. 

848
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,840
So I'm not here to like knock 
that all the way, but we were 

849
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,720
never supposed to be on it for 
our lives. 

850
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,200
You know, all these different 
side effects that it happens. 

851
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,240
Another great benefit that red 
light therapy has is actually 

852
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:17,440
natural pain relief and it's 
outperforming NSAIDs. 

853
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:20,240
So if you think of our, you 
know, Bute that we give horses 

854
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:23,840
and agricultural animals or like
our ibuprofen and NSAIDs, anti 

855
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,440
inflammatories that we give our 
pets, they cause a lot of 

856
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,960
stomach upset. 
So if you could just use red 

857
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,560
light therapy instead for pain 
relief and affecting the gut 

858
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,440
with like a belly band, then 
you're actually going to be 

859
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,360
doing a lot better than having 
all the side effects from the 

860
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,080
drug. 
I love it, I love it. 

861
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,960
I think there's so, so much to 
learn there and so much that we 

862
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,200
can learn for ourselves. 
So many things that we can apply

863
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,560
to our pets. 
So I'm just so appreciative of 

864
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,320
you, Jackie, for coming on and 
talking to us a little bit about

865
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,160
this. 
Where can people find your 

866
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,280
product specifically? 
Yeah, thanks. 

867
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,840
So they can come straight to our
website, animasoul.com. 

868
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:07,320
So she's like, I want to come 
get some too. animalsoul.com, 

869
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,640
you can come straight to our 
website. 

870
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,000
All of our products are on 
there. 

871
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,720
We have an e-mail on there for 
contact, which comes directly to

872
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:14,080
me. 
So if you have any questions 

873
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,280
about your pet, any issues 
they're having, any protocols, 

874
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,640
you can come right to me. 
We did actually just bring on to

875
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,000
staff doctor Ron Regal. 
He is like the 

876
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,000
photobiomodulation DVM that's 
been around since the 70s. 

877
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,400
So he's helped produce lasers. 
He's traveled the world teaching

878
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,800
about light. 
And so he is now standing behind

879
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,160
our product because he's like 
the years, Jackie, I've been 

880
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,080
trying to tell these companies 
we need to illuminate the 

881
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,200
animals more and more 
frequently. 

882
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,280
So we also have him on staff to 
help with, you know, protocols 

883
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,000
and educational things for 
professionals. 

884
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,600
And so you can reach out 
anytime. 

885
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,200
We also have our social media 
pages. 

886
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,520
We're on Instagram, Facebook, 
YouTube. 

887
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,400
We just got on the TikTok. 
That one took a while. 

888
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,920
That app is chaotic and so you 
can find us on there. 

889
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,800
We are going to start teaching 
very soon about quantum biology 

890
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,840
and light water magnetism. 
So just come follow us and reach

891
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,960
out with any questions. 
I love that my dogs are over it.

892
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,760
This is my third hour of 
recording today. 

893
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,560
And they're like, they're like, 
mom, come on, let's go outside. 

894
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,160
That's what they asked. 100% 
they're done. 

895
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,800
I'm like in between calls I'm 
like let's get outside real 

896
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,840
quick and then trying to like 
get them back in real quick. 

897
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,720
So yeah, they're going a little.
They were going a little crazy. 

898
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:26,920
So I apologize about that. 
But yeah, I just appreciate it 

899
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,400
so much. 
Thank you again, Jackie, for 

900
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,760
being here. 
And guys, thank you for being 

901
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,600
here and listening. 
I want to hear more of your 

902
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,560
questions about red light 
therapy and about like, I hate, 

903
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,840
I hate the word. 
I don't know why I hate the word

904
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,440
biohacking. 
I think this I don't. 

905
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,240
I think it just has such a 
negative connotation because of 

906
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:50,680
the like, I don't know, muscle 
bound guys that are like, oh, 

907
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,200
I'm gonna live forever on. 
I don't know but. 

908
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,720
It's companies making devices 
that they want you dependent on,

909
00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:01,160
and they are charging you 
exuberant amounts of money to do

910
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,560
so. 
And I just have morals against 

911
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,520
that. 
I'm like, let's not do that. 

912
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,520
I know, I know, I get it. 
I so get it anyway, yes, 

913
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,160
talking, talking more about 
that. 

914
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,360
But we do. 
There's so many things we can do

915
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,720
for ourselves. 
There's so many things we can do

916
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:19,120
for our pets. 
So reach out to me, ask me all 

917
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,320
the questions, especially if you
have somebody else that you 

918
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,200
would love for me to have come 
on the podcast. 

919
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,560
And with that, I'm going to say 
have a great week. 

920
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,040
Please give your pets an extra 
love from me and from Jackie 

921
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,520
this week. 
And I will talk to you again 

922
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,840
next week. 
Thank you everybody. 

923
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,720
Get your pets outside.
