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So this week on the weekly Pat 
roundup, we are continuing our 

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spring series. 
So it feels more like summer for

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me today, but we're talking 
about heartworms. 

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So last time we met, we talked 
about fleas and ticks. 

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Talking about heartworms today 
you're buffering on Instagram. 

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Am I buffering for you? 
I don't know if it's me or you. 

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Yeah, I just got like the 
spinning circle. 

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At least it's a pretty picture 
of you smiling into the camera. 

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Yes. 
I'm back. 

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You're back. 
You're back so really quick. 

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Before we get started, I just 
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that I put out on my podcast 
yesterday, which was like a 

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weird day for me. 
I normally post on Tuesdays. 

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I posted it yesterday because I 
wanted everybody to get like 

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advanced notice or like at least
as much notice as possible. 

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Today is Earth Day, April 22nd, 
and we which I think it's weird.

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I think it's normally on a 
Thursday for so for some reason 

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this year it's on a Tuesday. 
I think it's but the. 22nd isn't

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it really? 
That's what I've been saying for

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my client blogs. 
I don't know, maybe I could be 

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wrong, who the heck knows. 
But it is. 

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It is Earth Day. 
And the thing with today is that

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I remember back in 2020, I saw a
documentary called Kiss the 

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Ground, and it was like, not 
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heard about regenerative 
agriculture, but it kind of put 

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into perspective like what 
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And for me as a nutritionist, I 
talk about regenerative 

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agriculture a lot because the 
food that we put on our plate 

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has very different nutritional 
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raised or grown. 
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about trying to eat as much 
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produce as possible. 
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in 2020. 
Today on Prime Video, the follow

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up to that documentary called 
Common Ground is being released.

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And they also added Kiss the 
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So they're basically both on 
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Today is the first day, but it 
is the launch for Common Ground.

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And I did a very quick podcast 
episode with Ian Somerhalder, 

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who is an actor and 
humanitarian, who is one of the 

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famous people in this 
documentary series on like what 

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we can do to actually save our 
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Regenerative, regenerative 
agriculture can save our planet.

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I firmly believe that. 
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form like involved with this 
documentary. 

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I'm just fully behind it. 
So please go check out the 

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podcast, go watch Common ground 
tonight as you're eating dinner 

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or whatever on Prime Video. 
And that is my introduction. 

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Now I would let Isabel talk. 
Well, well. 

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Was is that appropriate in front
of my children? 

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I mean, I haven't watched it 
yet, but I don't see why not. 

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OK. 
I don't see. 

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I mean, we're talking about. 
Saving the original one, the one

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that you did see was that one 
like fine. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
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Yeah. 
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tonight because my kids need a 
lesson in not being wasteful. 

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Yeah. 
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when we actually work with the 
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So we're not using pesticides, 
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insecticides, all those things. 
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because those are trying to 
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When we instead work with the 
earth, then we regenerate our 

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soils, we bring back nutrients 
in our food, we bring back the 

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ecosystem, which monocropping I 
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may not know like completely 
destroys the soil. 

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I read something the other day 
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Roundup or anything like Roundup
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the soil for 10 years. 
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Because an antibiotic. 
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antibiotics are literally anti 
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So it kills everything. 
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And so that's what we have done 
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know, allowing allowing our 
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allow big AG, you know, 
pharmaceutical companies who own

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these big agricultural 
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What was interesting is he told 
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always talk about how big pet 
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universities, veterinary 
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companies have done the exact 
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departments at universities. 
So that's all these people are 

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learning when they're. 
Anms out there, all the anms. 

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Yes, yes. 
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such a geek, but this is like 
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and I'm super passionate about 
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And I think it, I mean, for me 
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though like you think about, oh,
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cats, Like why are we talking 
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Like it? 
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So much. 
No, our pets have a huge carbon 

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footprint. 
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Just the poop has a huge carbon 
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I've been writing all week 
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between biodegradable poop bags 
and landfill biodegradable poop 

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bags. 
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something great for the 
environment by buying 

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biodegradable or compostable 
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But unless you have a like an 
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in your in your area, which most
people don't, or you're poop 

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bag, the the biodegradable poop 
bag is somehow being handled 

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differently than a landfill. 
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money because nothing is 
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Most poop bags end up in a 
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something that breaks it down 
specifically in a landfill 

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environment. 
And none of these bags are doing

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what the packaging says. 
Because in a landfill you don't 

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have light, you don't have 
oxygen, and you don't have 

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moisture. 
It's just layers upon layers 

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upon layers of trash, right? 
So that poop bag that's covered 

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by layers of trash is never 
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sunlight or oxygen. 
It's just completely deprived of

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all those things. 
So that poop bag that you paid 

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extra money for, you know, the 
earth rated types and all those 

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things, it's acting like a 
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store. 
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landfill, it's exactly the same.
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annoyed because people are 
paying money for something 

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that's not really biodegrading 
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It's still taking 100 years, 300
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to degrade in that landfill. 
So I always that I've done this 

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before. 
It's on my on my grid on 

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Instagram. 
I went live with the founder of 

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a green Line pet supply at super
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She makes a landfill 
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a proprietary earth safe 
additive that she developed that

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goes into the material that 
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And with that additive, which is
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poop and the bag. 
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anywhere, especially landfills 
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up. 
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the waterways, like anybody 
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which is such a pet peeve of 
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And I just when I did my show 
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Jessica Williams, who hikes with
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she started blogging with her, 
her blog name and her her 

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business name as you did what 
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like that's what she did. 
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annoyed she gets when she sees 
people, you know, not picking up

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because she knows how much of an
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Like, if you walk past your 
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didn't poop. 
You forgot that bag, whatever 

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your excuses, or you forgot, you
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like, leave it on the side of 
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that poop ends up in our 
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It come it, it contaminates our,
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It contaminates our, our 
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It contaminates like the water 
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contaminates our crops. 
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Poop needs to be landfilled. 
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landfilled in bags that don't 
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micro plastics to the 
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So there's so much to it just 
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Yeah, we can literally have a 
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how poop and our pets affects 
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And that's not that's just like 
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the litter and what the what 
litter manufacturing, what 

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litter disposal does to our 
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So we'd really in any way that 
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this because I was thinking too 
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And actually Jessica said that 
she was like, I don't get so mad

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about people not picking up 
because maybe those people are 

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like, you know, doing something 
else that's like very helpful to

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the environment. 
So maybe, you know, there's like

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a kind of like a, a balance 
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I disagree with that because I 
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person who walks by poop, you're
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anything. 
That's my opinion and I must 

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stick to it. 
That's just based on my 

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experience. 
I'm like the kind of person that

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will lose sleep if I like didn't
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So I will literally come home 
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if I've lived here for almost 8 
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twice and I will literally get 
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back or drive back wherever I 
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Within an hour it's gone. 
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always do everything right, 
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Like I can't do everything 
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Like, yes, I have a cat. 
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So like I know that I'm having 
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that's negative, But I can, for 
example, invest in those green 

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line poop bags. 
I use them for the litter 

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scooping because they have a 
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size, which is really cool. 
And then I use them for all my 

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dog waste management. 
So like in the yard, I have a 

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bat. 
I like, I have a basket full of 

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the rolls. 
So like there's no excuse. 

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My son picks up, I pick up, my 
husband picks up and that's our 

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yard that only affects us. 
But again, it goes into the 

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waterway, it doesn't rain a lot 
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So it's not like an immediate 
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But if you live somewhere where 
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that poop that if it's raining 
is going into your waterways 

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inevitably. 
And so we all have to do 

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something. 
So like in your case, it's 

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regenerative agriculture, buying
more sustainable foods. 

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For me, it's maybe like waste 
management, but we can all do a 

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little bit better when it comes 
to our pet parenting to support 

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the environment and to be more 
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And for me also like packaging 
is super important. 

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Supporting local businesses 
whenever you can so that there's

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not that carbon footprint of 
just like the shipping cost or 

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the shipping, you know, the 
emissions and all that, that has

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to do with when you're shipping 
stuff from who know from 5 

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states away or or more, right? 
So buying locally is really 

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important if you can do that, 
buying in bulk, depending on 

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what it is, right? 
Like you don't want to buy 

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kibble in bulk because then 
it'll go bad. 

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But like maybe you do buy your 
cans of food in bulk. 

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So that plastic packaging that 
they put around, like the cases 

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of of cat food, for example, 
that might minimize the amount 

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of plastic just because you're 
buying it in bulk. 

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Whatever it is that you can do 
to support the environment, it's

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important to do it because yes, 
today is Earth Day and 

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everybody's like, you know, hey,
what are we going to do for the 

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environment? 
But there's 365, sometimes 366 

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days in the year. 
And there's a lot of 

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opportunities for us to either 
really make bad decisions and be

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wasteful and be kind of abuse 
the environment. 

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And there are opportunities for 
us without a ton of expense 

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involved, just make better 
choices. 

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I do think that that yes, you 
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like, I'm not going to buy poop 
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That's like I don't have the 
money to buy a poop bag. 

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OK, well then, you know, what 
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Like, what is it that you can 
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it's not your dogs, right? 
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park cleanup in your area? 
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bags are very expensive. 
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everything for Earth Day. 
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see that I posted today, but my 
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and the codes there. 
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it's there. 
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really like is I buy them in 
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they don't come packaged like 
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that I use for litter scooping 
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It just comes with like a little
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because again, it's just little 
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no waste stores. 
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in Chicago for one of my clients
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fun and like, I don't know that 
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you take your like containers 
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refill your thing, you would 
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the store, refill stuff if it's 
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nearby or something like that. 
If there's, it's like such a 

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cool opportunity to do something
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the process because you 
inevitably do pay for that 

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plastic tub that everything 
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Oh, yeah. 
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today anyway, because so last 
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intake, today we're talking 
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of those chemicals that you get 
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like a Walmart or a Petco or 
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these are chemicals, They are 
neurotoxins. 

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body, meaning they're going to 
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or cat's body. 
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barrier, so they're going to be 
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Sex organs, all of it, every, 
every place you could think to 

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check in your dog or cat's body,
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neurotoxic chemicals. 
That's bad enough, but anything 

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that you put on topically or 
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going to get in the environment.
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It is in our waterways. 
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showing that it is killing and 
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waterways because they are 
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isozazoline or however the heck 
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ingredients in these products 
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What I will say, because I know 
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little bit later for anybody 
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heartworm, Ivermectin is in 
small doses, is incredibly 

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effective and fairly benign in 
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factors are concerned. 
So I'm just going to jump out 

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there and say that there are 
ways to get like heart guard. 

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Playing heart guard is, is 
basically like a micro dose of 

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ivermectin. 
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out there I'd have to double 
check. 

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Doctor Josie View recently 
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So like, if you are terribly 
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something in addition, you can 
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Absolutely. 
And you can you can go the route

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without having to do the really 
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And I know there are some people
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ivermectin, but this is a Nobel 
Prize winning, you know? 

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You know what I mean? 
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The reason I'm laughing? 
You know why I'm laughing? 

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I use ivermectin every single 
day. 

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Yeah, it's amazing, right? 
I just use somebody. 

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Else I have rosacea and I spent 
my whole life suffering with 

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redness and breakouts and 
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is the redness and there's 
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cystic acne. 
And I both, but I spent my whole

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like 20s, teens, 20s, thirties 
going to dermatologists and I 

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was treated for acne. 
All of the acne products always 

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just destroyed my skin even 
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sensitive and I always just grew
up being like, I have the most 

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sensitive skin. 
I can't like nothing can touch 

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my skin. 
Well, thankfully this is 

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thankfully, ironically, when I 
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youngest 5-6 years ago now, I 
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side effect of pregnancy, the 

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dermatologist were like 
immediately, that's rosacea. 

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So nobody before had ever tested
me for rosacea. 

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And unfortunately, when you're 
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breastfeeding, they don't like 
to give you ivermectin. 

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So I couldn't really do 
anything. 

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My skin was it looked like I had
a red screaming rash the entire 

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time I was pregnant and like a 
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Like if you ever, if you see any
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I'm swollen and second of all, 
like I've like caked on makeup 

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just to like bring the redness 
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Could not get rid of it. 
But then finally, once I was not

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breastfeeding very often, they 
allowed me to use Zulantra, 

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which is a cream with like a 
tiny bit of ivermectin. 

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It has changed my life. 
I am a huge believer in it. 

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And you know what's funny is 
Zulantra is not actually not 

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funny, actually sad. 
Zulantra is not covered by most 

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insurance because it's 
considered like cosmetic or 

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something, which like for 
ivermectin, it's not at all 

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cosmetic. 
It's literally like the the 

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alternative was like raw 
bleeding rash, right? 

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Well, before they started 
compounding it, it was like 

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$300.00 a month. 
So most people just couldn't use

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the Solantra. 
So people were going to Tractor 

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Supply and buying horse paste 
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And that's how I started. 
That's how I started because I 

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couldn't get I, I could not get 
my insurance to cover it. 

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They really like my. 
My dermatologist. 

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Yeah, my dermatologist 
prescribed it. 

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They asked me $350.00 a month 
for it. 

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I said I, I literally can't, 
that was my, my business was 

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like completely shut down and I 
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And obviously like with two 
young kids, like what was like 

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why $300.00 when I could go to 
Tractor Supply and spend 12 and 

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have like the same thing? 
And I used to it was, but the, 

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the thing about they give it, 
it's a horse paras anti 

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parasitic, right? 
So like it's literally in like 

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one of those like shot things 
like a syringe. 

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And it's supposed to be given. 
So I would just like squeeze a 

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little bit of the syringe and 
it, it smelled like apples 

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because it's flavored for the 
horse and it's like gooey gel 

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for that one. 
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a month and it's delivered to my
house by a compounding pharmacy,

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thank goodness. 
So I and it's just the most 

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amazing thing. 
And when the, the, the pandemic 

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hit. 
So I had just started ivermectin

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when the pandemic hit. 
And so like now it was gone 

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everywhere, like when I was 
doing the horse pace for my 

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skin, people were ingesting it 
right and right or wrong. 

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Like I, I love that medication. 
So I think it's, you know, if 

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you, if you had a success with 
it, I wouldn't be surprised for 

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like anything, literally 
anything because it's 

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anti-inflammatory, anti 
parasitic, antimicrobial, It's 

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all these things, but it's also 
really mild. 

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Yeah, it's very mild. 
And so many things in the body 

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are actually caused by parasites
and we don't realize it because 

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our medical system does not look
into the root cause of anything.

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It's just like all they want to 
do is either inject chemicals or

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cut it out. 
That's all they want to. 

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Do the symptom address the 
symptom? 

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Yes, so, but there are so many 
things caused by parasites that 

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we are not aware of. 
And there is there is a, a niche

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of people that believe now I'm 
not 100% down this radical, but 

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I can absolutely believe that 
there are certain cancers that 

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are, that, that are caused in 
some way, shape or form due to 

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parasites. 
In fact, we, I don't have a, 

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have a mutual acquaintance who 
has Ms. and I just sent him 

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information because there is a 
chiropractor in Florida who has 

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been working with people because
they are finding parasites in 

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the spinal fluid of Ms. 
patients. 

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And so I mean, this is, this is 
not, I mean, call me, I don't 

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care. 
Call me a conspiracy theorist 

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all you want. 
I I don't care what you call me 

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if if what I say turns out to 
help somebody like this is the 

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thing about. 
Ivermectin is that really we are

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using it for our pets who are 
exposed to the same things as 

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us. 
So we assume that horses have 

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parasites. 
We assume that pets have 

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paradise parasites, right? 
Why wouldn't we when we're 

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walking barefoot too, like in I 
was born in Ecuador. 

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I was born in Ecuador where we 
when I was growing, where we had

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dengue fever, we had a cholera, 
literally cholera, like things 

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that like in the US were like, 
you know, fictional almost 

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right, Like just so old timey. 
I grew up with that and we were,

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we were, we were given dewormers
like at least once a year. 

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Like that was just like 
something we did like as a 

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normal thing. 
And I lived in a home. 

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I did not live, you know, I, I 
was not poor in any way, shape 

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or form. 
It was just like, no matter what

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socioeconomic level you were in,
you assumed we drank water that 

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was purified and all that stuff.
We did all the things that 

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obviously the, the, the people 
in lower socioeconomic levels 

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couldn't do, but we were still 
being deep, like dewormed and we

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were taking anti parasitics at 
least once a year. 

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And if we had any kind of, you 
know, kind of a, an acute 

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situation, the first thing that 
they would do was test us for 

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worms. 
But here in the. 

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United States like that just 
hasn't been done for humans and 

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you know, parasites, which is 
what heartworm is, is right. 

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It's a parasite. 
Parasites live in our 

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environment, whether no matter 
what species you are, you're 

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exposed to them. 
So the fact that we're like, 

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yes, horses need them, dogs need
them, cats need them, but not 

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your kids, Isabel, the ones who 
are sitting outside like playing

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in the dirt and then putting 
their hands in their mouths 

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because like ask any parent, 
like our kids are disgusting. 

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My kids are worse than Kira, 
like Kira would. 

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Kira rolls herself around, but 
she doesn't really groom herself

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very much. 
So like she probably has less 

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bacteria and parasites than my 
kids have been exposing 

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themselves to. 
So it's so interesting to me 

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that like we get like all up in 
arms about an anti parasitic for

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humans. 
I mean, I'm just happy to hear 

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that. 
Like when I put it on at night 

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I'm actually doing like a full 
body, like anti parasitic but 

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it's the best thing that's ever 
happened to my skin. 

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I love it. 
I love it. 

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I'm seriously like considering 
taking it as well just as like 

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part of a detox that I need to 
be like I've been doing a detox 

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for the past couple of months, 
but I like I have not done 

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anything specific to parasites 
and why the heck not correct? 

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Why? 
Not. 

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But yeah, and my brain fog has 
gotten better. 

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And like, there's seriously, 
like, we talk about detoxing our

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pets all the time. 
We should be talking about 

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detoxing ourselves as well. 
Sure. 

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And. 
Well, when it comes down to 

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heartworm, we all know or many, 
most of us know that it's caused

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by mosquitoes, right? 
Like the mosquito bites you, 

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it's a carrier of whatever. 
It's a carrier of the parasite. 

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The parasite attacks the heart, 
probably other parts of the 

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body, but we call it heartworm 
because that's where they tend 

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to find them. 
And that's when you tend, that's

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where you tend to find the most 
damage, right? 

449
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,320
Like, that's when you start 
seeing the symptoms of like, 

450
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,600
they're lethargic, they're out 
of breath, they're panting a 

451
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,680
lot. 
They obviously have like heart 

452
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,200
issues and symptoms related to 
that. 

453
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,800
So when we see our pets doing 
that, we take them to the vet 

454
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,320
immediately. 
And that's why they find the 

455
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,960
heartworm, whether or not they 
have it in other places. 

456
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,280
I mean, Yeah. 
Well. 

457
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:24,600
Yeah, it certainly affects the 
lungs as well, but so yes, 

458
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,520
mosquitoes transmit it from one 
dog to another dog. 

459
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,360
Our cats are a totally different
story, especially our indoor 

460
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:34,880
cats. 
There are, in my opinion, is 

461
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,680
absolutely no reason to give 
heartworm prevention to an 

462
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,520
indoor cat. 
I don't even know why we would 

463
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,200
give it to outdoor cats. 
They're just not as susceptible 

464
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,440
generally. 
OK, I'm so happy. 

465
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,480
We're diving into this first 
because I think for dogs, yes, 

466
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,560
be careful in heartworm. 
Get your get your dog tested 

467
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,120
every year. 
Like period, end of story, OK 

468
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,360
for cats. 
So when I was living in 

469
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:02,400
Louisiana, Louisiana has a huge 
heartworm issue. 

470
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,240
Most of the dogs that are 
euthanized in shelter 

471
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,800
environments aren't euthanized 
because of heartworm because 

472
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,800
they have so many that they 
can't really rehab them, right. 

473
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,680
So like they just have to like 
focus on the healthy ones and 

474
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,480
euthanize the the ones that have
heartworms. 

475
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,000
So whereas like in Northern 
Virginia, heartworm diagnosis 

476
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,320
may not be a death sentence, in 
Louisiana for a jog it is. 

477
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,160
So I asked my vet at the time in
Louisiana who literally was the 

478
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,520
nicest lady and she was on 
Thursday, she didn't even see 

479
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,520
patients because she was at the 
shelter spaying, neutering, 

480
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,120
operating shelter pets. 
So she's amazing. 

481
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,280
No hate whatsoever. 
But I asked her because I was 

482
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:46,200
raising neonatal kittens and she
was like, at a certain age, they

483
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,560
all need to go on heartworm 
preventative, especially here. 

484
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,560
And I was like, well, I mean, 
they're inside. 

485
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,600
They're literally in a room 
because like, they were a 

486
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,880
nightmare. 
Like we moved our master bedroom

487
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,280
out and put them in there so 
they had a bathroom and 

488
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,960
everything. 
And they were like tiny little 

489
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:04,640
clawed, like, you know, demons. 
And she was like, they have to. 

490
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,400
And I, I was like, do a lot of 
cats get heartworm here? 

491
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,440
And she was like, out. 
This is the interesting part. 

492
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,400
Outdoor cats. 
Don't because they develop an 

493
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,960
immunity to it, but indoor cats,
because they're not exposed as 

494
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,080
often, they need protection. 
And like, that just didn't seem 

495
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,480
right to me, right. 
Like it doesn't make a lot of 

496
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,560
sense. 
Like if I mean, if if they're 

497
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,240
being exposed, they're being 
exposed. 

498
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,600
If it's not going to kill the 
outdoor cat, why would it kill 

499
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,600
the indoor cat? 
We would assume that the indoor 

500
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,760
cat is overall healthier if 
they're having their needs met 

501
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,200
and they're, you know, eating a 
quality food and getting some 

502
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,600
kind of, you know, activity and 
maintaining a healthy weight and

503
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,080
seeing a vet blah, blah. 
But even if. 

504
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,400
You know they're eating kibble, 
they are indoors, correct? 

505
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,960
So they they have less, they 
have less risk factors. 

506
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,120
Where exactly where is the risk 
factor? 

507
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:09,400
So anyway. 
I was immediately like, OK, OK, 

508
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,800
I'll put them on right, like 
whenever. 

509
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,320
And I never quite did it. 
I think I put like the second. 

510
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,600
So I had four and then two of 
them got adopted really early. 

511
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,200
So I just kind of like took them
and let them be adopted. 

512
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,160
The second set stayed with me 
for over a year, so I did 

513
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,120
actually eventually put them on 
something. 

514
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,000
But I remember, first of all, 
getting them to take it was a 

515
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,320
nightmare because they, yeah, 
they. 

516
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,320
Want. 
To take that little pill, they 

517
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,320
don't want it. 
Yeah. 

518
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,680
And it was a chewable poison. 
So it was a chewable. 

519
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,320
And so, like half the time, 
which is such a waste of money, 

520
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,720
I would just be like, OK, you 
didn't want it. 

521
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,400
I just threw it away. 
You know what I mean? 

522
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Like, I just didn't. 
He didn't do it. 

523
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,680
But I do know that when they do 
get heartworm, it is there's no 

524
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,040
real cure for cats with 
heartworm. 

525
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,720
But an outdoor cat's probably 
going to lose its life a lot 

526
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,480
earlier than the cartworm is 
going to take it, You know what 

527
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,200
I mean? 
Because like outdoor cats have 

528
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,360
so much, so many risk factors 
they can eat, they'll probably 

529
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,920
eat rat poison before they get, 
you know, they die or get hit by

530
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,160
a car before they die from 
heartworm your indoor cat. 

531
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,800
Again, it's like I, I live in 
the desert. 

532
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,880
We actually spray for mosquitoes
because I'm highly allergic and 

533
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,840
so is Noah to mosquitoes. 
So we spray our yard for 

534
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,440
mosquitoes, not in the house. 
We don't spray any pesticides 

535
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,760
around the house or in the 
house, but like the trees and 

536
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,360
stuff get sprayed. 
And so like, what are the 

537
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,040
chances that we never see 
mosquitoes inside? 

538
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,920
And if we do, like they find me 
and I slap them and I kill them.

539
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,080
So the chances of Van Gogh 
really being exposed are really 

540
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,200
very minimal. 
And I'm more comfortable just 

541
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,880
kind of getting him tested every
year instead. 

542
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,040
Yeah, I. 
Mean, I don't even for cats. 

543
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,560
I don't. 
I don't even know where we would

544
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,360
waste the money. 
Need to test them but that's 

545
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,480
that's me. 
I just don't see the risk. 

546
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,760
It's just me being like super 
duper hyper responsible, you 

547
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,520
know, Cuz then I also, I, I'm 
obsessed with my hat and I don't

548
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,400
want anything to happen to him. 
So like if I ever like got a 

549
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,320
diagnosis that I potentially 
could have. 

550
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,000
But like, even if they were to 
test him, like there's probably 

551
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,360
not much other than an Ivor like
a round of ivermectin that we 

552
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,760
could really do for them. 
Is that? 

553
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,720
Yeah. 
Yeah, I mean, they're the so I 

554
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,240
think different people have 
different heartworm protocols. 

555
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,760
Like there's a standard 
heartworm protocol that I think,

556
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
I don't know that I've ever 
heard of a cat being on. 

557
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,080
And, and this is just me. 
I don't know that I've ever 

558
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,480
heard of a cat being on a 
heartworm protocol. 

559
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Oh, oh, OK. 
No, that was me. 

560
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,080
It was like trying to get me to 
like opt in to using hand 

561
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,760
gestures or something. 
Eat right now, you see. 

562
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,080
Yes. 
I don't know that I've ever 

563
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,040
heard of a cat being on a 
heartworm protocol. 

564
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,920
But dogs, you know, they wind up
on, you know, crate rest forever

565
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,000
and ever and ever because you 
don't want to over exert the 

566
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,720
heart. 
Here's the reality of heartworm.

567
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,640
I am more conservative when I 
talk to my clients about 

568
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,800
heartworm for their dogs 
specifically. 

569
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,360
I don't. 
I've never really have the 

570
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,480
conversation with cats. 
I'm just like, they're indoors, 

571
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,040
why are why would we? 
Why your cats should be. 

572
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,440
Indoors, that's the most 
important thing. 

573
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,120
Your cats should be indoors. 
Out. 

574
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,440
Indoor, outdoor cats, no, not 
great. 

575
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,560
Outdoor only cats, not great. 
But indoor cats? 

576
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,040
They're safe. 
The reality is 1 you need to 

577
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:47,400
assess your pets risk factor so 
do a Google search for where you

578
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:53,360
live and how prevalent it is. 
Heartworm because yes mosquitoes

579
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,520
transfer it from one animal to 
another. 

580
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,440
Also only female mosquitoes. 
So that's the thing. 

581
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:07,360
But what is the risk factor for 
your pet specifically? 

582
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,320
So you have to be comfortable 
with what you're doing with your

583
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,440
dog. 
I'm just going to, from here on 

584
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,960
out, I think we're just, we're 
just going to talk about dogs. 

585
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:24,240
So then what can you do besides 
putting neurotoxins in your 

586
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,080
pet's body? 
But absolutely, 100% is going to

587
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,280
affect all of their organ 
systems, their brain, 

588
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,360
everything. 
What can you do? 

589
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:41,040
Well, you're not seeing feral 
dogs, wolves, foxes in the wild 

590
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,880
that are constantly being killed
off by heartworms. 

591
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,520
Why is this? 
Because they're immune system is

592
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,960
incredible. 
Because they are living 

593
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,320
outdoors. 
They're getting that healthy 

594
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,360
microbiome from the soil that 
they are constantly living in 

595
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,000
and on. 
They are eating a species 

596
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,920
appropriate diet. 
They are they have enrichment, 

597
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,639
they are hunting like there's a 
lot that animals in the wild get

598
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:17,360
that are we we have to make it a
priority to simulate in our 

599
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,880
homes for our pets. 
The first one being a species 

600
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:27,960
appropriate diet. 
So when we assist their body in 

601
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:33,120
building a healthy robust immune
system and they get bit by a 

602
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:39,520
mosquito that has heartworm that
is being transmitted, they can 

603
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,920
kill it. 
They don't just because they get

604
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,719
bit by a mosquito that is 
infecting them with the 

605
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,760
microphylla, whatever. 
I can't remember all the words 

606
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:57,720
the that are the tiny little 
like heartworm thingies that 

607
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:00,560
will go and get into the heart 
and the lung and and grow and 

608
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,360
expand they before they get 
there, before they ever make 

609
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,560
their way to the heart, before 
they grow into adult sized 

610
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,840
heartworms. 
Their immune system is designed 

611
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,920
to recognize that as an invader 
and kill it. 

612
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:22,960
Now an animal that is sedentary,
that eats an ultra processed 

613
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:29,760
diet, that is not living a super
healthy lifestyle, they are 

614
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,080
getting tons of chemicals in 
their body all the time. 

615
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,960
Their environment is toxic. 
So we're using toxic cleaners, 

616
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:44,720
fragrances, air fresheners, all 
the things that most people in 

617
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,640
the US, that's how they live. 
No, they're not going to be able

618
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,680
to handle it if they get bit by 
a mosquito that has that is 

619
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:59,800
infected with heartworm. 
And so for me, what I recommend 

620
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,680
to my clients is if that's the 
route you're going to stay with 

621
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,760
your pet, I'm not shaming you 
for that. 

622
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,840
You're giving your pet a loving 
home. 

623
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,600
I appreciate that, But yeah, we 
do need to do some sort of 

624
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,320
protection for heartworm. 
My preference is going to be for

625
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,360
a basic heart guard, which is, 
you know, a micro dose of 

626
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,240
ivermectin and, you know, 
essential oils. 

627
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,400
Making sure the yard is clean, 
so we don't have like standing 

628
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,840
water, like, you know, things 
like this that we can really 

629
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,040
make sure we're providing the 
optimal environment so that, you

630
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,200
know, we're not in a breeding 
ground for mosquitoes. 

631
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,720
That's that's a good thing. 
But it's it's just like 

632
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:42,760
everything else is a multi 
faceted approach and making sure

633
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,200
that our pets are as healthy as 
they can possibly be. 

634
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,320
And sometimes that does mean 
additional supplementation in 

635
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,960
addition to a species 
appropriate diet, especially in 

636
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,240
puppies and in aging dogs, they 
just need more support. 

637
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,680
So it's to me, it's a 
well-rounded approach and I 

638
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,960
don't want anyone's dog to get 
heartworm. 

639
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,520
So I am a little bit more 
conservative when I talk about 

640
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,720
prevention. 
Yeah, well. 

641
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,280
I'm looking up heartguard and 
like so heartguard the the basic

642
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,080
one is for cats. 
It only has ivermectin. 

643
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,200
Then you have Heartguard Plus, 
which is ivermectin and a 

644
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,440
dewormer called Pirantel. 
Yeah, I. 

645
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,640
I it's really, really hard to 
find anymore. 

646
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,960
I think they almost stopped 
making the basic heart guard. 

647
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,120
I don't ever do pluses. 
I don't ever want to do like 

648
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,320
more than one thing at a time 
because then you don't know 

649
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,440
where a problem arose from. 
If a problem does arise, that 

650
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,360
includes vaccines as well. 
Doing a four in one vaccine, 

651
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,360
which one caused the problem? 
Well, the problem is you can't 

652
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,040
get the. 
You can't get the individual 

653
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,720
anymore. 
I had a vaccine reaction to the 

654
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:58,040
flu shot given to me at the same
time as the Tdap, and so now I 

655
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,040
can't have any of those. 
And so that is flu, dipteria, 

656
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,920
tetanus and pertussis. 
I mean, I'm a grown woman with a

657
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,400
healthy immune system, so the 
fact that they expect me to do 

658
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,560
that at 1:00 every 10 years 
anyway is silly. 

659
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,920
But that's four things that I 
will never be able to do again 

660
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,360
because now you can't find any 
of those. 

661
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,560
Well, I mean, flu, yes. 
I don't know. 

662
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,560
Like but you can't find 
diphtheria. 

663
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,280
By itself, you can't find 
tetanus by itself. 

664
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,320
Now you have to. 
You nobody should. 

665
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,880
Be 3. 
Nobody should be. 

666
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,040
Getting a tetanus shot anyway, 
that is the biggest scam. 

667
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,760
Well the flu shot and tetanus. 
Those are some huge ass scams. 

668
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,040
I got I. 
Got I used to get the flu shot 

669
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,280
every year because my 
grandfather was very old and my 

670
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,520
grandmother was old but not as 
old as him and the only times 

671
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,120
that I got the flu was when I 
got the flu shot 100%. 

672
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,480
Yes, absolutely. 
I don't know that. 

673
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,280
I'll, I mean, I can't take it 
anymore. 

674
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,360
Like even my doctors were 
worried because of I had such a 

675
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,720
big reaction to those shots when
I was 34 years old. 

676
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:10,000
Ten years ago now, over 10 years
ago now, but I my doctor that I 

677
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,600
had not gotten a shot until 
COVID and they were super 

678
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,440
concerned about what I could 
react to because we have no idea

679
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,680
what I reacted to exactly. 
Because there is a. 

680
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,880
There are 1,000,000 possible 
ingredients in that mess that I 

681
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,640
allowed them to fill me with. 
So, yeah, I, I will say that one

682
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,840
of the most important things is 
that annual testing for dogs, 

683
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,400
like having that on your radar, 
you should be going to the vet 

684
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,160
every year at least, because our
pets really do hide a lot of 

685
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,880
things. 
And a trusted vet will palpate 

686
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,960
their stomach. 
They will check, you know, 

687
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,040
especially as they get older, 
they'll check their eyesight, 

688
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,560
their hearing to see if there's 
like a little bit of a change. 

689
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,760
They'll notice any kind of 
change in their weight, which is

690
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,840
huge. 
Like we don't have like 

691
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,520
veterinary grade scales here. 
I mean, I guess I could carry 

692
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,720
Kira 50 lbs and stand on my 
scale, but you know, all those 

693
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:07,440
things that they do at like your
Wellness check every year. 

694
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,920
Really important just to see any
changes, but also you can do 

695
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,400
your 30 to $60.00, you know, 
heart heartworm test. 

696
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,360
You can even take a fecal sample
in and have things checked for 

697
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,440
other parasites. 
So having that annual check is 

698
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,000
so important to me. 
I feel like what we might miss 

699
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,240
as uneducated pet parents, 
right? 

700
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:31,640
Like especially like if you are 
new to pet parenting, your vet 

701
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,280
should have an eye on your dog 
every year, your cat every year.

702
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,600
I took my cat and my my dogs in 
this year and it was like such a

703
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,840
mess. 
I think I told you, Jessica, 

704
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,200
because I usually take them and 
then Chris, my husband is 

705
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,800
retired now. 
So he took them and like nobody 

706
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,880
knew what was going on. 
Like the vets assistants are 

707
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,800
different. 
I guess they're in less 

708
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,200
experience. 
The vet is just a single vet who

709
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,720
like comes in and performs 
whatever she's been asked to 

710
00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:59,840
perform and chit chats with you 
and checks the dog. 

711
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,880
But like, she's not going 
through like, did you do this? 

712
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,760
Do you want to do this? 
And like, she knows that we're 

713
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,200
pretty educated pet parents, so 
she just assumes we're going to 

714
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,200
ask for what we want. 
And he the reason we went in was

715
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,640
for heartworm testing. 
Dental check, right? 

716
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,320
Like do I need a dental for them
now? 

717
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,160
And you know, your overall 
Wellness, like take their end 

718
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,120
blood work because all of my 
pets, I get blood work once a 

719
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,240
year. 
And for my my seniors, I should 

720
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:30,040
probably be doing it sooner, but
I don't usually do it because 

721
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,120
they're really healthy. 
I don't go in more than once a 

722
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,400
year unless they're healthy 
usually. 

723
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,200
But they didn't do the 
heartworm, they didn't do the 

724
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,720
the dental. 
Like I had to call back and be 

725
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,920
like, so does he need a dental? 
Because like Satchmo just got 

726
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,560
his dental last week because his
breath smells. 

727
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,200
But the vet was like, I didn't 
see anything concerning. 

728
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,000
So it was like this back and 
forth. 

729
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,600
So really having one person who 
handles your vet visits is 

730
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,600
smart. 
Like whomever is the most like 

731
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,520
educated on the topic of pet 
care would probably be my 

732
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,760
choice. 
Having them go and talk to the 

733
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,440
vet, asking the vet questions, 
but also remember worrying that 

734
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,080
you have a choice when it comes 
to like, OK, it's a negative 

735
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,760
heartworm. 
Do you want to buy heartguard? 

736
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:17,680
No, like we got our negative 
heartworm and we haven't bought 

737
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,080
any heartguard. 
I literally, I think I stopped 

738
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,240
using them around the pandemic. 
Like I just stopped. 

739
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,200
I had them. 
They eventually expired. 

740
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Like, I just like, I didn't see 
the point, Like I just stopped. 

741
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,280
And so my vet doesn't even offer
them anymore for us. 

742
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,920
She definitely hasn't talked to 
me about, you know, for the cat,

743
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,920
getting him on any heartworm 
meds. 

744
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,360
But again, we live somewhere 
where heartworm is not super 

745
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,320
common. 
If it were, I'm sure we'd be 

746
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,080
having different conversations 
with our vets because, you know,

747
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,400
pretty much every time we went 
in Louisiana, I was in 

748
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,200
southwestern Louisiana, any time
we went in, it was like posters 

749
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,000
about heartworm, the picture of 
the heartworm, because it was so

750
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,880
common and so rampant in that 
area. 

751
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,640
So knowing where you live, 
knowing your respecter, like 

752
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,240
Jessica said, and just having 
that open conversation with your

753
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:12,120
vet is so important. 
But remembering, again, that you

754
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,840
do have other options. 
I mean, there are natural 

755
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,880
approaches, Jessica, I'm sure. 
Yeah. 

756
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,280
Well, like I said, I mean it all
starts with the immune. 

757
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,320
It all starts with. 
The immune system, because if 

758
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,400
you, if you are able to handle, 
if your immune system is able to

759
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,960
handle invaders and kill them, 
then you don't need to load the 

760
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,920
system up with all of these 
chemicals. 

761
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,160
I mean, I get Kim's heartworm 
test every six months because we

762
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:46,400
were in Central TX and again, 
another place where heartworm is

763
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,720
rampant. 
And I was concerned. 

764
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,840
I educated myself prior to 
moving there because I was so 

765
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,560
worried about it. 
And I took not only the free 

766
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,640
course, Dr. Will Falconer has a 
free heartworm course where you 

767
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,920
can start to learn about them. 
But I actually paid for his like

768
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,520
full like I'm going to really 
dive deep into heartworm for 

769
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,600
you. 
Of course I paid for it because 

770
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,520
I was that concerned. 
So this isn't me over here 

771
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,680
going. 
It's not like no exactly. 

772
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,680
I'm not taking it seriously. 
It is very serious. 

773
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,360
We do need to be very cautious 
of it and I'm not telling you to

774
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:29,080
do what I do or do what I tell 
you to do other than like go 

775
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:34,880
educate yourself on it because 
that is where you have to be an 

776
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,600
empowered pet parent today. 
You have to be an empowered 

777
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,040
parent. 
You have to be just an empowered

778
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,320
person, like individual for 
yourself. 

779
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:49,640
And our pets are no different. 
We have to, we, we have to take 

780
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,840
it upon ourselves to educate 
ourselves, to have educated 

781
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,600
conversations, to ask educated 
questions. 

782
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:02,800
And so for me, when I moved to 
an area that I knew, and here 

783
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,880
I'm in the Hampton Roads area in
Virginia, it's rampant here as 

784
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:13,560
well. 
I absolutely. 

785
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,880
So I, you know, I just have to 
be comfortable with what I'm 

786
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,200
doing for her as far as keeping 
her healthy, making sure her 

787
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,960
immune system is strong. 
And you know, maybe because she 

788
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,120
is aging, she's 11 years old 
now. 

789
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,640
Like maybe I will start micro 
dosing some Ivermectin for her 

790
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:38,320
just to be on the safe side. 
I'm not opposed to doing that. 

791
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,440
I think I think it's the safest 
thing we can do if we have to do

792
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,320
something in addition to keeping
them, you know, just otherwise 

793
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,680
healthy. 
And then I do, you know, 

794
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,440
essential oils, which I will say
after talking to Rita Hogan, I 

795
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,080
have been cutting back my 
essential oil usage because she,

796
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,120
as much as she loves essential 
oils, she also educated me on 

797
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:11,480
being a responsible steward of 
the resources on the planet and 

798
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,880
that essential oils just don't 
usually fit that bill. 

799
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,480
I feel confident in where I get 
my essential oils from that she 

800
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,400
is doing a good job of that. 
But like these huge, like MLM 

801
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,320
companies like doTerra and Young
Living, I don't have any 

802
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,360
confidence that they're not, you
know, out there destroying the 

803
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,640
planet to get us. 
These very concentrated, very 

804
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,680
concentrated they're. 
Very, very concentrated. 

805
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,200
So I have just kind of tapered 
back my usage of what I have and

806
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,160
using it as necessary as opposed
to just Willy nilly on 

807
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,520
everything all the time. 
Yeah. 

808
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,960
Like I was, I think this is a 
case where I would still 

809
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,600
continue to use essential oils 
because first of all, we're 

810
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,160
diluting them. 
We're not putting straight 

811
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,760
essential oil on our pets. 
Generally speaking. 

812
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,720
There may be cases here and 
there where we would need 

813
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:14,240
something that especially if 
we're dealing with like a tumor 

814
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:16,680
or something, we might want to 
use something more concentrated.

815
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,120
But I'm diluting what I use on 
her and it's effective. 

816
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,640
So, you know, there. 
And then I also, when I, when I 

817
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,920
moved to Texas, I was very 
intentional about the plants I 

818
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,280
put out. 
I put out a lot of catnip and 

819
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,520
Rosemary and lemongrass because 
I wanted to make sure that my 

820
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,360
yard was not a hospitable place 
for fleas and ticks and 

821
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,680
mosquitoes. 
And so there's there is a lot 

822
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,000
that we can do without pumping 
our pets full of chemicals. 

823
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,200
Yeah, always. 
Like we've talked about with the

824
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,360
fleas and ticks, you know, 
standing water is going to call 

825
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,640
the mosquitoes over there are, 
you know, natural sprays you can

826
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,600
use. 
I know I use, I started with I 

827
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,960
use mosquito squad and I started
they have a natural option. 

828
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,840
It just wasn't enough. 
My yard is probably the the only

829
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,840
yard in all of the desert that 
has two huge trees and grass. 

830
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,600
Yes. 
So all the mosquitoes, you know,

831
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,240
this milkshake brings all the 
mosquitoes to the yard. 

832
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,400
And I'm looking at this tree. 
It's humongous. 

833
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,360
Like it's just huge and it's 
what really well established and

834
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,960
it brings all the birds and it 
brings all the the mosquitoes. 

835
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,480
And so it wasn't enough. 
Like the natural spray wasn't 

836
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,760
enough. 
If I only had grass, it would 

837
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,880
probably be fine. 
And it would. 

838
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,560
And I have all the front yard is
all rocks. 

839
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,560
So really not an area where, you
know, mosquitoes are really 

840
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,520
going to be drawn, especially 
because it doesn't rain much. 

841
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,880
But if you have like standing 
water, that is going to be where

842
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,200
they come the life cycles like 
every three weeks. 

843
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,000
So we have to get sprayed every 
three weeks. 

844
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,000
You know, you want to make sure 
you are consistent with any 

845
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,600
sprays that you use. 
Wonderside makes a yard spray. 

846
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,000
But if you live somewhere with 
like when it rains a lot, 

847
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,000
you're, you're basically 
applying it after every heavy 

848
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,480
rain, which gets expensive. 
So it's all about like what you 

849
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,800
can do, what is practical, what 
is in the budget, and if just 

850
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,480
you know, a pill is what's the 
most practical thing for you, 

851
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,440
then that's what you should 
choose. 

852
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,680
I am more scared of heartworm 
than I am of anything flea and 

853
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,360
tick form just because I feel 
like those can be acute if those

854
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:30,040
can be managed easier without 
like a monthly preventative. 

855
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:32,920
If you're going hiking, you've 
got like Wonderside and you 

856
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,200
spray them before you spray them
after, you know, like again, you

857
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,720
make sure that you check for 
ticks and stuff before you come 

858
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,600
back inside. 
You have to check yourself. 

859
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,240
I mean, I don't spray myself 
with wonderside before I'm going

860
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:47,920
hiking and I'm walking in the 
same areas that my pets are 

861
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,840
walking, right. 
And you know, socks and fur just

862
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,120
as attractive to A to a tick 
really. 

863
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,840
So to me, it's like not that 
serious. 

864
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,520
I, I recognize that ticks do 
give a very serious, they 

865
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,880
transmit very serious diseases, 
but I just feel like we can do 

866
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:14,560
things that are a little less, I
guess, structured like we can do

867
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,800
it case by case basis. 
But when it comes to heartworm, 

868
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,800
if you live somewhere like Miami
where mosquitoes are an all year

869
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:26,000
round thing, you may need that 
consistent monthly treatment 

870
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,360
where it takes that fear away 
and it actually does protect 

871
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,320
your pet. 
Just because they're on the 

872
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,760
heartworm doesn't mean that they
can't the heartworm preventer 

873
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,360
doesn't mean that they can't get
heartworm. 

874
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,400
Like that's the, it's, it's, 
it's one of those things where 

875
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,480
they might get it and then it 
just kills it because that's 

876
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,000
what it does, right? 
It like kills it once they get 

877
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,480
it. 
So you may not even and know 

878
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,440
that it happened, but it is 
something that you should do if 

879
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,480
you're not going to be doing 
everything else. 

880
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,720
Like that is something that 
depending on where you live, it 

881
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,120
really is. 
Yes, it's a toxic and yes, like 

882
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,680
you can choose something like 
ivermectin and something else, 

883
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,600
but I think it's less toxic than
the pesticides that we put on 

884
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,680
like their backs for fleas and 
ticks. 

885
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,560
I really do. 
Those are just, those are 

886
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,880
straight pesticides. 
Ivermectin I don't consider a 

887
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,400
pesticide. 
I consider a medicine. 

888
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,680
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah. 

889
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,120
I don't know and Tina is asking 
about heart guard. 

890
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,600
She thinks it has ivermectin. 
We did talk about the plain 

891
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:26,960
basic heart guard is ivermectin.
That is correct. 

892
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:32,560
So the only thing I want to 
leave people with is regardless 

893
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,800
of what you choose to do for 
your pets, please read 

894
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,240
everything about it. 
Ask for the product insert, read

895
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:44,760
the product packaging. 
Be comfortable with what you are

896
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,080
putting in your pet before you 
put it in your pet. 

897
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,080
If you choose to do all the 
things that your vet recommends 

898
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,160
you go ahead and do that. 
You know if that's what you feel

899
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,600
is going to be best for your 
pets. 

900
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:05,760
Just please read all of the 
product information before doing

901
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,720
that. 
So like don't let your vet give 

902
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:10,560
it to them in clinic. 
Take that packaging home. 

903
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:12,880
Read everything, read all the 
inserts. 

904
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,000
If it's too small for you to 
read, pull it up on their 

905
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,440
website. 
You can do that too. 

906
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,320
You can do that before even 
buying it. 

907
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:24,480
So just inform yourself so that 
you are aware of what you're 

908
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,040
putting in your pet's body 
before you put it in your pet's 

909
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,800
body and that you were 
comfortable with what you were 

910
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,720
doing. 
That's the only thing I'm going 

911
00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:35,400
to, I'm going to leave you with.
Well, perfect. 

912
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,600
So I just want to know if 
anybody just uses heart guard, 

913
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,440
regular heart guard for their 
dogs that is labeled for dogs. 

914
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,560
Let me know where you get it 
because all I can find is heart 

915
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,080
guard plus for dogs and heart 
guard for cats. 

916
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,480
Obviously you can just use the. 
Heart guard for. 

917
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,040
Cats for dogs and just give them
more of it. 

918
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,520
One thing I will say is that 
even though I'm saying that 

919
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,000
that's fine for this particular 
case because ivermectin is 

920
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,280
species appropriate for both, do
not do that with flea and tick 

921
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,640
medications. 
You cannot give flea and tick 

922
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,400
medication for dogs to a cat. 
You might kill them and vice 

923
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,120
versa. 
Please be super careful about 

924
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,240
giving the wrong thing to the 
wrong pet. 

925
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,720
Read the labels, read the 
dosage. 

926
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,880
When in doubt, call your vet. 
Hold off for the night. 

927
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,320
Figure out what you're supposed 
to be doing so that you don't 

928
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,040
hurt them. 
Because a lot of times we're 

929
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,880
talking about these side effects
happening with perfect dosage. 

930
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,000
Yeah. 
And perfect. 

931
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:37,760
And even if you do it perfectly,
you might have these terrible 

932
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,680
side effects. 
So imagine if you're doing it 

933
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,360
wrong. 
Yeah, we could have even worse 

934
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,320
side effects. 
So always knowing what you're 

935
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,520
giving and who you're giving it 
to. 

936
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,000
As a professional pet sitter, 
that was one of my biggest fears

937
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,560
was always like I was following 
not the vet's recommendations, 

938
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,560
but the pet parents 
recommendations. 

939
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,120
And if the pet parent 
misunderstood from the vet and 

940
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,400
then told me to do something 
wrong, then it would be my 

941
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,000
fault. 
But it wouldn't be because I did

942
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,800
this wrong on purpose. 
So what I would do for my team 

943
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,000
and for myself is we would 
research what it is. 

944
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,440
We would verify that the dosage 
was in line with what, you know,

945
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,200
the medication kind of says. 
And if there was any of them, it

946
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,040
was completely like random or 
weird. 

947
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,720
We would call the vet directly 
and be like, Hey, we're we're 

948
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:27,320
pet sitting, you know, Kim, 
we're being told that this is 

949
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:32,160
the amount that she needs of XYZ
and just verify, you know, 

950
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,680
because you don't, you can't 
remove what you've put in. 

951
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,720
You cannot. 
You can bathe that. 

952
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:41,960
Dog all day long, but that flea 
and tick stuff in the the is 

953
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,000
already already in their 
bloodstream. 

954
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,520
And again, it's in your 
bloodstream because you applied 

955
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:48,360
it. 
If you don't wear. 

956
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,560
I always used to wear gloves. 
I was like that. 

957
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,400
I was like that nitpicky. 
I would not touch it when I was 

958
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,600
giving it. 
I even knew that I shouldn't 

959
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,480
ingest it or have it on my 
hands. 

960
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,920
I don't use that stuff anymore, 
especially with kids around, but

961
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:05,600
I would always be super careful 
to wash my hands or wear gloves 

962
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,720
and I would always just, you 
know, try to minimize the side 

963
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:14,680
effects by keeping an eye on 
them if I'm doing multiple 

964
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,680
things, not doing them on the 
same day. 

965
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,880
So like if you are doing a flea 
and take separate from a heart 

966
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,680
guard pill, don't do them on the
same day. 

967
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:26,920
Maybe alternate every two weeks.
Like since they're monthly, do 

968
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,480
like what, 2 weeks and then the 
next 1-2 weeks later just so 

969
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,200
that you know that you're giving
the body time to recover. 

970
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,760
There's so many things that we 
could talk about because, you 

971
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,120
know, user error is so common. 
But also I feel like your vet's 

972
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,440
going to be like it's fine. 
Just like doctors are going to 

973
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,360
be like it's fine. 
And then you realize, well, 

974
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,040
maybe it wasn't fine for my pet.
Yeah. 

975
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,480
It wasn't. 
I know it's amazing the things 

976
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:58,040
that we like we change doing 
when we learn all of these 

977
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:04,320
things that we learn because my 
brother's dog still eats a bunch

978
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,400
of kibble like he gets other he 
gets fresh food too, but they 

979
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,240
still like his base diet is 
still kibble. 

980
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,400
And it's funny because like, I 
have my routine down for feeding

981
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,840
Kim. 
I always wash my hands before 

982
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,960
and after getting her plate 
ready. 

983
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,360
Of course, it's just what I do 
and I don't think about it and I

984
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,560
don't have a problem touching 
it. 

985
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:30,800
But like I go to grab his food 
and I'm like, I don't even want 

986
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,720
to touch this because I know how
nasty, you know what I mean? 

987
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,040
Like it's, it's like washing my 
hands isn't enough. 

988
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,200
Isn't enough. 
Yeah, I. 

989
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,560
So I, I agree with you and it's 
funny because I have to tell my 

990
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,760
kids like because I'll give, I, 
I use a lot of bears, bikes, 

991
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,400
trees, so it's freeze dried raw 
food. 

992
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,920
So I'll be like, you can give, 
you know, Kira a treat, you can 

993
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,080
give the cat a treat, but you 
need to wash your hands after. 

994
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,920
And they're like, why? 
Because it doesn't look gooey 

995
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,200
and it's not like the freeze 
dried raw stuff that we 

996
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,240
rehydrate looks gooey and stuff.
So you know that you need to 

997
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:08,680
wash your hands. 
I'm like, you need to wash your 

998
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,960
hands after touching any dog 
food, whether it's kibble, 

999
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,040
whether it's raw, whether it's 
freeze dried, whatever it is, I 

1000
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,640
don't care how cooked it is. 
Gently cooked, Fully cooked. 

1001
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,800
You know, like nuclear cooked. 
It doesn't matter. 

1002
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,280
Like I. 
Know I'm so and I'm so reckless 

1003
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,800
like I really, I truly am like 
if you were to like walk behind 

1004
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,800
me, I am so reckless. 
Like with my cats, they're 

1005
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,640
freeze dried bra. 
I just like hand it to them, 

1006
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,040
toss it down and I just get back
in bed and I'm like, hopefully I

1007
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,280
don't rub my eye in the morning.
Like I just, I'm so reckless. 

1008
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,960
I'm not. 
I'm I'm, I'm a little, I'm a 

1009
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,400
little, a bit of a germaphobe. 
So like I'm like, but I'm. 

1010
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,480
I'm a, I'm a, I'm a huge 
germaphobe with, with kibble 

1011
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:59,320
because I know how, how much 
more prevalent these bacteria, 

1012
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,880
the pathogenic bacteria are in 
kibble versus the raw products 

1013
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,800
that I buy commercially. 
Like I'm there is a 0 tolerance 

1014
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,200
for raw products in the pet food
market. 

1015
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,120
Nobody gives a crap with kibble.
They are laced with salmonella 

1016
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,160
and E coli. 
And like I, I just, I don't 

1017
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,400
know, like there's this part of 
my brain that is like, you're 

1018
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,360
fine. 
And then I see a bag of kibble 

1019
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,880
and I'm like germs, right? 
Like. 

1020
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,600
I mean I I am a germaphobe for 
all of it. 

1021
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,600
And also reminder wash your pet 
bowls no matter what you feel. 

1022
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,200
Yes, every. 
Every day, every day and the. 

1023
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,080
Water bowl wash it before you 
refill it and refill it daily 

1024
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:46,600
please. 
I wash them every day. 

1025
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,320
Your pets? 
Yeah. 

1026
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,800
Your pets deserve fresh water. 
Absolutely. 

1027
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,520
So yeah, guys, thank you so much
for joining us. 

1028
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,600
We're going to wrap it up here. 
Do you have any idea what you 

1029
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:01,800
want to talk about next week? 
I was thinking, I was thinking 

1030
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:07,800
of how the tariffs might impact 
pet food prices, pet products. 

1031
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,640
I was talking to two founders 
who are going to have to raise 

1032
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,640
their prices immensely if 
nothing happens before, you 

1033
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,400
know, the tariffs are going to 
be rolled out. 

1034
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,560
People are people, there are 
manufacturers who are not 

1035
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,160
ordering stuff because they 
don't know, like when it leaves 

1036
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,000
China, what the tariffs going to
be. 

1037
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,880
Oh, sorry, I. 
Say, didn't we? 

1038
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,520
Like we paused all tariffs 
except for China, right? 

1039
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,680
So China? 
I have no idea. 

1040
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,040
Like. 
Currently there's a 90 day pause

1041
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,800
on all countries except for 
China. 

1042
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,360
Well. 
All every single poop bag in the

1043
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,480
country is made in China. 
So if you want to stock up on 

1044
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,920
stuff, do it now, whether it's a
earth friendly poo bag or not an

1045
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,960
earth friendly poo bag. 
They're all manufactured in 

1046
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,280
China and a lot of people are 
saying that they're not even 

1047
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,920
placing orders. 
Anything that's fabric that 

1048
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,880
comes from China, anything that 
might be hit by a tariff. 

1049
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,680
You might want to get stuff now 
if you have the budget for it to

1050
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,760
like pre purchase. 
On things that like supplements 

1051
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,280
because ingredients are going to
be affected. 

1052
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,600
So just I think it'd be cool to 
talk about that and see, but I 

1053
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,760
guess if yeah, it's a pretty. 
Not all a. 

1054
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,200
Sprawling. 
Topic. 

1055
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,440
But we can try to do like a 
bird's eye view. 

1056
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,200
Yeah, of course. 
It would be, I mean, I don't 

1057
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,960
think, I don't even think the 
administration knows what the 

1058
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,560
details are on the tariffs at 
this moment. 

1059
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:46,920
He is he Trump is saying that he
wants to kind of he was maybe 

1060
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,920
like backing off a little bit 
off the tariffs, but the the 

1061
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,080
tariffs for us like obviously 
it's going to affect everybody's

1062
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,880
bottom line. 
But when it comes to you know, 

1063
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,600
pet stuff that maybe your pets 
really need, like you have an 

1064
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,720
older pet on some kind of 
supplement, even the 

1065
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,840
everything's going to go up 
because most packaging is create

1066
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,000
is made in China. 
So if you get something that is,

1067
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,320
you know, this, the product 
itself is not sourced from 

1068
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,440
China, but the actual jar or 
whatever, most of that comes 

1069
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,800
from China. 
So that's why everything might 

1070
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,080
go up. 
So I would love to talk about 

1071
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:27,960
that and talk about, you know, 
what it is that that that will 

1072
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,000
be affected. 
It may not be affected. 

1073
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,320
How to move forward, how to even
just talk about budgeting for 

1074
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,320
these things And like the 
unexpected, even even without 

1075
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,200
the tariffs, we have to budget 
for unexpected with our pets. 

1076
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:46,880
We do absolutely, yeah, I, I 
think that's a, a good. 

1077
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,320
I don't like, again, I don't 
know how much we could get 

1078
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,600
through in in an hour with that,
but we can certainly try and 

1079
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,920
we'll just go. 
Off of the latest news on the 

1080
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,560
tariffs that day right like 
whatever because it changes 

1081
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:05,480
every single day the trade war 
of sorts that's happening we 

1082
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,120
will just talk about what the 
news says that day as to what's 

1083
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:14,760
coming and how to react to that 
because like I said I've spoken 

1084
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:20,320
to two founders of two different
types of pet products and when 

1085
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,800
you do when you do this yeah 
when you do this when you do the

1086
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,840
peace sign you get balloons I. 
Know maybe it's like, no, you 

1087
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,560
only get it once. 
I'm not maybe I didn't. 

1088
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,200
I didn't opt in. 
So I maybe so, yeah. 

1089
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,320
So two people, one of them makes
poo bags and the other one makes

1090
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,680
or poo bags and other things. 
But the majority is poo bags. 

1091
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,160
And the additive is made here in
the US, but it's shipped to 

1092
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,040
China's to make the poo bags and
then shipped back. 

1093
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,080
And like the tariff situation is
changing so quickly that they 

1094
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,440
don't want to place orders 
because when it don't. 

1095
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,200
Know what's going to happen? 
You don't know what? 

1096
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,720
They're going to, you don't know
how much it's going to cost to 

1097
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,160
just get it into the US at that 
point or out of China. 

1098
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,600
And then the other one makes pet
products like collars and 

1099
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,480
leashes and things like that. 
And it's all fabric. 

1100
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,040
And obviously the US doesn't 
make fabric unless it's like a 

1101
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,640
super high end fabric. 
We don't make our own fabric 

1102
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,640
here. 
So everything is blue. 

1103
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,960
We used to make so much fabric 
in in North Carolina, didn't we?

1104
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,520
I mean, we make furniture in 
North Carolina. 

1105
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,600
We do make. 
Furniture in North Carolina, but

1106
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,040
I but yeah. 
Only the Super high end fabrics 

1107
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,720
are made in the United States 
and we're they're very, very, 

1108
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,520
very niche. 
So not right now like obviously 

1109
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:46,240
fast fashions, all Asia and fast
fashion effects, not just the 

1110
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,880
humans, but also the pets, 
right? 

1111
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:52,960
And like even the better quality
pet product are all, everything,

1112
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,800
all those materials are coming 
from abroad. 

1113
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,120
So it's going to affect us if it
moves forward. 

1114
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,600
And again, it's like we don't 
really know what to do, but we 

1115
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,560
need to take some steps to maybe
just prioritize what we can and 

1116
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,600
cannot live without. 
Obviously a new collar. 

1117
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,400
Yeah, but. 
You know that supplement that 

1118
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,040
you can't live without or that 
your pet likes depends on or 

1119
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,960
medications are gonna go up? 
Probably a lot of things gonna 

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01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,960
happen. 
So we'll talk about that next 

1121
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,320
week, yes. 
Let's do that. 

1122
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,960
All right guys, Don't forget to 
go watch Common Ground on Amazon

1123
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,760
Prime. 
And my show today, this week is 

1124
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,720
Friday, not Thursday. 
Thursday is a crazy mommy day 

1125
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,480
for me. 
Zoo in the morning with Mila and

1126
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,920
then a performance in the 
afternoon with Noah at school. 

1127
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,720
So I am going to go live on 
Friday at 3:00 PM Mountain to 

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01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,480
Standard Time for Covered in Pet
Hair. 

1129
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,720
A boozy show for pet lovers with
a groomer that I met in Super at

1130
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:56,000
Super Zoo who is a fellow Latina
and so cute and so just so such 

1131
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,360
a cool, such a cool young woman.
So I wanted to bring her on and 

1132
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:00,520
just get to know her a little 
better. 

1133
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:02,360
I love it. 
I love it. 

1134
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,920
All right guys, have a great 
rest of your week and if you 

1135
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,440
have any other follow up 
questions, we'll talk to you 

1136
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,440
later. 
Yeah, comment. 

1137
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,240
Below if you find heart guard 
for dogs without anything but 

1138
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:12,840
I've remixed it bye.