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Hi, welcome to the latest 
episode of Mistress Mia's 

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Tension. 
I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, 

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and my Co host is here with me, 
the Barbie. 

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Hi. 
Yeah. 

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So Goldentagen, Barbie and I 
were just having a discussion. 

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She was at the party. 
I was. 

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Ruby wanted to have her top her.
That was shocking. 

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I thought it was a trap. 
And then she's like, Oh, well, 

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you know, Barbie, you can look 
through my toy bag. 

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Ruby's toys are so scary for me.
Pulled out was a rubber flogger 

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with like razor blades. 
Like what the fuck? 

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I was like, this is a medieval 
torture device. 

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Like my bag is just full of like
like heart-shaped paddles and 

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stuff. 
And then I look into Ruby's bag 

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and I'm like, there's dead 
people in here. 

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I can't. 
She keeps theirs in the trunk, 

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not in her bag. 
Barbie. 

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Yeah, Ruby's hardcore. 
She is much more than I Ruby is 

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more of a brutalist and I'm more
of a centralist, I feel. 

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And, you know, we, we each bring
something unique. 

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Yeah. 
I think to our, to our talents, 

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you know, in the dungeon. 
I think we all have our own. 

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What's the word I want to use? 
Vibe. 

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Yeah, you can use vibe. 
And I think that, you know, when

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we're in there, we all have our 
own unique way of doing things, 

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you know? 
So you were just saying really? 

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Or you're like a sensualist and 
you know touching other people 

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to you is an intimate act. 
Well, that's my issue sometimes,

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like with playing with people, 
like some I'm friends with Ruby,

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but like I don't, I feel like 
I'm not super close with Ruby. 

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So like when we were doing it, I
didn't really know what to do 

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because I was like, well, I 
don't, I don't want to touch her

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because that feels 
inappropriate. 

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But then I'm like hitting her 
and then I'm like, so I hit her 

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for probably like 5 minutes and 
then I was like all that because

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like I usually only play with 
like people. 

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I'm like, like involved with and
so that makes it very different.

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Like when you're like like 
sleeping with somebody you 

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playing with like and get very 
intimate. 

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And the only other person I 
really play with that parties is

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an old friend of mine. 
And like it's different because 

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I've known them forever and I 
don't know, I just get so 

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nervous and I'm just like, I 
don't know what to do. 

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I don't want to be rude. 
I don't want to violate this 

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woman. 
Well, you know, and Ruby was 

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talking about it with all of us 
on a Sunday after the party. 

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And she was like, you know, I 
wanted Barbie to get in the 

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practice. 
She's like, and I really needed 

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to be topped, you know, I really
needed to feel. 

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It was not the best. 
Submissive. 

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Yeah, but you know, you know, 
the thing of it is you all don't

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know each other that well, like 
you said. 

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And that makes all the 
difference, especially. 

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For me, like with playing, like 
call me a prude if you like, I 

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don't know, I just get all like 
locked up when it's someone I 

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don't know. 
But like also it's with clients,

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it's a bit different for me as 
well because it's private. 

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You know, we're in the dungeon 
by ourselves, you know, the 

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lighting, so the music's there. 
So being like more touchy with 

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a, with a client is a bit 
different for me as well than it

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is like somebody that I'm like 
somewhat friends with. 

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Like it almost feels weirder. 
To like. 

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To like, touch someone like 
you're friends with. 

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And so I feel bad because like, 
she's like, do you want to 

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practice? 
And I was like, yeah. 

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And then we get up there and 
like 20 million people are in 

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the room and they're all 
standing there holding toys of 

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rubies and the passing me toys. 
And I was like, and one of them 

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kept trying to hand me the 
scariest rubber dragon tail 

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ever. 
And I'm like, do not hand me the

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scariest toy I've ever seen in 
my life. 

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Well, because I didn't want to. 
I didn't want to hurt Ruby. 

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And I know Ruby likes all the 
toys she owns because she uses 

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them all herself, she said. 
But I was just like, look, I 

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don't have the experience to use
a rubber dragon tail. 

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But I think Ruby wanted me to 
practice because she saw me mess

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up a whip in the dungeon twice. 
So I was too close to my friend 

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and I missed twice. 
And she was like Barbie. 

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And I was like, I saw her. 
And then later she was like, do 

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you want to come practice? 
I was like, got to say yes, she 

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saw me fuck up earlier. 
You know, it happens, you know, 

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and I know that, you know, 
you're, you're so new to this. 

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But as I tell people, when you 
go in there, you listen to 

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clients, you gauge their their 
reactions, you listen to what 

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they want and you try to make 
their fantasy reality, you know,

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and I think that's, that's the 
key. 

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I think you get an A for effort 
and you're going to make 

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mistakes. 
Everyone makes mistakes. 

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You know, there's that learning 
curve. 

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Because I am I am new. 
I'm still under a year of doing 

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it professionally, so I feel 
like I'm still in that stage 

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where it's like, yeah, some 
things you just can't prepare 

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for till you interact with it. 
That's true. 

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You know, can't, can't prepare 
someone for every single variant

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of like situation out there. 
Sometimes things just happen, 

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you know? 
You know, I have a very good 

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friend of mine and she came out 
of state because she really 

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wants to be a professional Dom. 
And, you know, we talked about a

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lot of different things and it 
was really, you know, when she 

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asked me specific things, I was 
just like, well, you know, the 

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only way you can really get the 
experience is by doing it 

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yourself. 
You know, I said, let's run ads.

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You know, we will. 
I'll reach out to a couple of my

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local regulars and, you know, 
you can just kind of, you know, 

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watch and participate and you 
can help me. 

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And she learned a lot is what I,
I really believe she did. 

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I think that she felt more 
confident about it. 

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You know, the one kind of client
that we didn't get though, and 

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she really wants to learn more 
about is cross dressing. 

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Oh, you know that was we did 
that on my. 

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First day, I think, yeah, we had
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Day. 
Yes. 

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Yes, we did. 
I got to see a variety. 

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Of things you sure did and he 
was a fun crossdresser too. 

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Sweets pie he was because you 
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had his heels like he dressed up
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Think he already had like booty 
shorts on? 

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We put a little leotard on him. 
Yeah, he. 

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Also wanted to do the back bed. 
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the night. 
See. 

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And that's so easy. 
Love the back bed clients. 

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Right I. 
Love it. 

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We have a client that that goes 
in the back bed for what, two 

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hours? 
Yes, that's all he wants. 

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That's all he wants, just in the
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like, we'll like hit him with a 
flogger here and there just to 

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keep him on his toes, but right.
And then I'll take, you know, 

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the, the latex Lube that's, you 
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bed anyway. 
And I'll pour it on him, and 

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I'll rub him and I'll tickle 
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And you know, because you can 
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you're under there. 
But he says, you know, his mind 

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just shuts down. 
He said he's almost fallen 

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asleep several times. 
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Liked it when I was in there, I 
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so it freaked me out because I 
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to fly out of my. 
Head Yeah, yeah, he can't stand 

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there very long at all without 
your earplugs. 

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No, it was pretty nice. 
Like I feel like if I could 

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control it myself from the 
inside, I'd like it, you know 

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what I mean? 
I wish there was like a way to 

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do that right? 
Because I think what I dislike 

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is having to have someone there.
I don't know why, maybe I am a 

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prude. 
No, I I totally get it because I

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remember how you were telling me
you're like, yeah, when I do an 

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edible, I just go in the shower.
Turn the lights off. 

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Sit in the sit at the bottom of 
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Turn the lights off. 
I'm like, yeah, it's funny 

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because people like, oh, do you 
smoke? 

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Not with people. 
Me getting high is a private 

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experience. 
Yeah, you know, do you feel like

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it's a vulnerable point? 
I don't. 

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I think I just like being by 
myself. 

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Yeah, I guess I was just like 
experiencing it by myself. 

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Yeah. 
I'll make myself a little 

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dinner. 
I'll take my little edible and 

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then I'll go find a nice little 
corner to sit in and then I'll 

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see you in six hours and then I 
go to bed. 

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I wish I could say the one time 
that I had edibles was a 

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pleasant experience, but it was 
a horrible experience. 

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Gave me some edibles at the 
party and I didn't get high. 

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I got sleepy, but Rabbit took 
some and it didn't hit him until

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he got home and then he felt 
like it would never end. 

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He's texting us like guys, I am 
so high, right? 

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Now, Oh, God, yeah. 
You know, a client had given me 

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some about a year and a half 
ago, and I had never, never even

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had an edible. 
And I thought, oh, OK, you know,

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a little cookie. 
So I had a cookie. 

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And I was like, well, that's 
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This really hasn't taken effect.
I think you told me this and I 

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was on your way to the mall. 
I hit you. 

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Yeah, and I forgot that I had 
even taken it because my back 

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was bothering me. 
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And I thought, oh, it'll relax 
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So I laid down for like an hour 
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mall and Bree was with me and I 
was driving and I started seeing

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like tunnel, like a tunnel in my
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And I was like tunnel vision. 
I was like, oh Lord, I was like,

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what's wrong? 
What? 

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What is so? 
This is so amusing to me. 

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Like so. 
I've been hiding them all. 

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I was so fucked up. 
No, I was driving. 

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I was on the. 
Illegal Mia. 

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I was on the Interstate. 
I'd forgotten I had taken it, I 

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was so drained. 
I am once. 

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I took an edible and my sorry, I
didn't mean they're up, but no, 

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me and my friend, we were at her
house and she lived a mile away 

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from a Wendy's. 
So we took the edible and I said

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in like 20 minutes later I was 
like, let's go to Wendy's before

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the edible hit. 
So we have food. 

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Yeah. 
And we drive up there, we get 

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our food, and as I'm leaving the
edible, it hits. 

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And I was like, oh God. 
So I had to drive the mile back 

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to her house. 
I literally felt like I was 

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playing a video game. 
It's probably some of the best 

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driving I ever did because I 
just was focusing so hard on not

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messing up. 
Well, you know when it hit me 

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and I realized I just started 
dying laughing like so hard. 

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I get. 
Into giggle fits too. 

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So I was on my way to the mall 
and I said, hey, let's go to 

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Culver's. 
And I mean, I never, when I go 

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to Culver's, I usually just get 
a little ice cream, that's it. 

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But man, I got like a peanut 
butter and chocolate shake. 

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I got the cheese curds, some 
French fries. 

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I was like, God, I'm hungry. 
You know, that happened to me 

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and me and Charles at one of 
your parties a few parties ago. 

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So a girl was like, do you want 
to hit my pin? 

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And we were like, how strong is 
it? 

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And she was like, not strong at 
all. 

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We didn't know she was a a giant
Stoner. 

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Oh my God. 
So we took little hits. 

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We got the munchies so bad 
before the party. 

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We were fucking up that 
charcuterie board and the party 

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hadn't even started yet. 
We're like, we have to replace 

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all this. 
He was fucked up. 

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He came out pretty quickly. 
His did not. 

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He was so fucked up. 
He came out and he was like Mia.

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I'll smoke drugs, I'll smoke a 
pin with somebody like a vape, 

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like the weed vapes, because you
get you're not high long. 

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Yeah, that's the thing about 
edibles. 

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You're high so long that it's 
like if I got took an edible 

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with somebody, we're both going 
to be high for so long. 

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And that just sounds like hell. 
I was like, if you want to be 

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high together, someone just 
needs to go get one of the pins 

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or something because I don't 
like smoking a joint. 

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That's just yucky. 
It makes me want to throw up. 

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Wow, I used to love it when my 
niece introduced me to what is 

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it the the vaporizer. 
What do you think? 

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What do you call those where you
put water in it? 

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Diffuser. 
Diffuser. 

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There you go. 
I love diffuser. 

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And she would put ice in it and 
God, it was amazing. 

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Sometimes I'll I'll boil water 
and I'll put my face over the 

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boiling water to see my face. 
See. 

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Yeah, A. 
Good sweat is good for the skin 

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sometimes. 
It is, but inhaling it to me has

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never bothered me. 
But that edible, I was sick all 

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through the day, all through the
night, and I didn't feel right 

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until the next day. 
The only time I ever got sick 

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off an edible, it was so 
psychosomatic. 

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I had just convinced myself I 
needed to throw up and I didn't 

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throw up. 
And I was like, you don't throw 

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up, you're going to get sick. 
And I was like, I just convinced

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myself I had to throw up. 
And then I did it. 

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And then afterwards I'm like, 
I'm still high. 

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That didn't work. 
Oh my God that sucks. 

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It was so weird too. 
My brain just like, convinced 

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itself this had to happen and it
did not need to happen. 

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God bless SO. 
Back to the party. 

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Back to the party, tell us what 
was your take on it? 

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The party was really fun. 
It was much more condensed space

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wise and I feel like that was 
really beneficial for the party.

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I felt like it it forced people 
to kind of mingle and be around 

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each other because it rained for
the first hour or two. 

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So like all the outside area 
like was unavailable. 

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And so like I noticed people 
were like talking to each other 

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a lot more than you'd usually 
see. 

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Like they like a lot of small 
talk. 

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Yeah, they really engaged and it
was your idea. 

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You told me you're like, you 
know, put the put the tents over

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closer to the house, close off 
that side yard and it worked. 

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It worked. 
Better because if you had like 

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300 people showing up to your 
party, we would need all that 

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space. 
But if we're only having like 75

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people, you know, yeah, it's 
like it's easy to just condense 

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it, force them all to bump 
elbows. 

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That's what the cut these kind 
of parties are for anyways. 

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Yeah, we've had less than 100 
all through summer. 

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It's it's been crazy, but it 
works. 

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It works out because. 
They're more consistent and oh, 

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I can just catch the next one. 
But when you go back to doing 

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them sporadically, people will 
be more inclined to go to them. 

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Oh yeah, well I'm not having any
this winter so they're going to 

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be shit out a lot. 
I thought you're doing one in 

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October. 
Well, it's still fall true. 

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You know, are you going to do 
one in February then? 

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No, February is my birthday. 
Oh. 

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Happy birthday. 
Thanks you too. 

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So you coming back in March or 
something? 

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Probably March or April. 
My birthday month see. 

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Yeah, it's right there. 
I knew it was right there, but 

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yeah, you know, fuck that. 
I don't want to do anything 

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during the winter. 
I don't think you know. 

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Yeah, I mean. 
It's a lot of fucking work. 

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It is. 
And honestly I like, I run 

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events and stuff too, and 
December holidays, not a good 

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time for events. 
Like people just don't go big. 

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People are saving up for 
holidays, they're travelling. 

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Like no one wants to spend the 
door fee on things like yeah, 

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like we're only having a show in
December. 

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Like, we weren't going to, and 
we decided to have a show in 

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December just because so many 
people want to be in our shows. 

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So we're just going to do a 
showcase or something like yeah.

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But. 
No, the party was really fun. 

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We we closed off some like the 
kitchen from like the living 

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room and it kind of made it like
a little bit of a viewing area 

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for like the the orgy bed we 
had. 

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Yeah, that were a tank, right? 
Yeah, and I think honestly, 

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having that kind of like area 
would be cool because I, I 

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noticed people were more likely 
to like play with each other 

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too, because they were all 
forced to sit there and look. 

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At each other, Look at each 
other. 

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Exactly. 
So tell us, you know, I know 

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what you do on the side, but a 
lot of people don't realize you 

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do drag shows. 
I do. 

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I do drag shows and I do 
performance art and I'm also a 

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normal artist too. 
Right, of course you are. 

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I have all the jobs parents 
don't want your kids to have. 

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Drag queen, dominatrix and 
artist making Mama proud. 

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Right, So what do you do in your
drag shows? 

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Well, so I run and I've run a 
group called the Sapphic Stage 

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and we've only put on two events
so far. 

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We're very new to like the 
scene. 

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And so our first one went really
good. 

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We had like over 100 people show
up. 

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We didn't do anything too crazy 
because you know, the venue was 

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kind of strict. 
Like they were like, they paid 

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well, but they were kind of 
like, you can't do this. 

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Like you need to look classy, 
see, like, you know, so it was 

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definitely everyone had to be 
like fully covered and like, not

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that we're like doing nudie 
shows or anything like that, but

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you definitely had to like, it 
was a bit more effort, you know,

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to do it. 
And they also like were very 

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picky about what events they 
host. 

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So we didn't really have a lot 
of creative freedom, but it was 

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a lovely venue. 
We did enjoy working there, but 

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we got booked at a different 
venue, which is really nice 

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because this venue is like one 
of the punk venues around. 

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They, they told us you can do 
anything you want as long as 

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like you clean up your mess when
you're done. 

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And we were like, don't tell us 
that, right? 

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So we, we were able to do so 
much more. 

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Like we had a whole fire show. 
We had someone doing a human 

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pincushion act and it was freak 
show themed. 

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It was a drag show, freak show. 
So that's why we had like so 

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many different kinds of people. 
We had a girl doing aerial 

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performances. 
She like hung from a hoop and 

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then she hung from chains like 
and she we were all like wearing

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like 8 inch stripper fetish 
heels. 

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I. 
Don't know how you do it. 

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It was crazy. 
And then, of course, you know, 

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Rabbit was in it and Rabbit wore
his little clown costume and he 

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had the little pasties on and 
was running around the room and 

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everyone loved it. 
It honestly was such a cool show

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that like people were like, this
is one of the best shows the 

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city has seen in like a hot 
minute. 

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I was like, yes. 
I can imagine why it would be. 

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I mean they, they. 
We put in the effort and I was. 

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Gonna say just the costumes 
alone were crazy. 

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No. 
And it was so cool because like,

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like, because we're a bunch of 
like girls or like a fab people 

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like doing drag, which is not 
very popular. 

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So we were really excited that 
our events have just been going 

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so well because it's kind of 
like a, well, we're going to do 

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it too, you know, right, Because
a lot of the people I book had 

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issues getting booked and with 
like more traditional drag 

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Queens that are men, they just, 
they really wouldn't book us. 

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And if they did, they would only
book one of us per show kind of 

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thing. 
Like just as a like a like, oh, 

360
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there's one, you know what I 
mean, just to include. 

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But we were like, no, we, I 
think we need to make our own 

362
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space at this point. 
But we kind of did it and now 

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we're, we're really demolishing 
at it and we're really. 

364
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Excited about it. 
That's so exciting. 

365
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I know it is super cool and our 
next one's Halloween and of 

366
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course like it's going to be 
insane. 

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Like I've already, they're 
already all thinking of things 

368
00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:13,120
they want to do. 
We're probably going to buy a 

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few tarps for that show with the
amount of bloodshed that. 

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Might happen, right? 
Well, now you need to go like to

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bigger cities. 
That's the plan. 

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Like my Co host who runs it, 
she's moving to LA in January so

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she's hoping to maybe bring some
shows over there and there'd 

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just be two sex of it. 
And but yeah, our next show, our

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next big show after the 
Halloween one is going to be in 

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February, hopefully. 
We're hoping to do like a 

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Valentine's Day burlesque show. 
We think that'd be very. 

378
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,440
Cute. 
Oh, I'm sure it will. 

379
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Without a doubt. 
I know it's so exciting because.

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All of the girls commit so hard,
like they're all my friends and 

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I love them. 
And you'll be like, hey, guys, 

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can you be in the show? 
And they're like, yes. 

383
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And we're going to commit to the
bit so hard. 

384
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,880
We're going to do like 
everything we can. 

385
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,160
And it's just like, yes, thank 
you. 

386
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,680
So aside from that and your 
other job is being a dominatrix,

387
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,400
what are the perks? 
Well, I I like that, like the 

388
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schedules flexible and it's 
honestly just, it's a fun, it's 

389
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,600
a conversation starter. 
I don't mention it a ton, yeah, 

390
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,440
but it is, it is interesting to 
have like, not it, it feels like

391
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,400
not a real job, but it is a real
job. 

392
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,120
Yeah. 
It is just funny. 

393
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,120
Like when people are like asked 
what you do, I'm always like, 

394
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,320
well, what do I say? 
Do I say drag queen or 

395
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,160
dominatrix? 
Both sound bad and both have a 

396
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,240
lot of questions tied to it. 
Oh shit. 

397
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,120
I, I usually just, I usually 
just say, oh, I'm a freelance 

398
00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:50,320
artist or something like that. 
And that also has a ton of 

399
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,320
questions tied to it. 
All right, so I'm going to tell 

400
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,560
you a story. 
So I've gone to my podiatrist, 

401
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,640
yeah, probably about nine months
ago. 

402
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,840
Nice guy. 
I knew him from years ago 

403
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,800
because he knew what I used to 
do with my family business, you 

404
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:16,640
know, 20 plus years ago. 
And so he came in, he's like, I 

405
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,000
know you. 
And I said yeah, you know, I'm 

406
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,720
such and such from this. 
And he's like, oh, OK, So what 

407
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,240
do you do for a living now? 
Yeah. 

408
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,800
Well, the family business was 
not dominatrix work. 

409
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,600
It was not BTSM. 
It was in the medical field. 

410
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,320
So I told him, I said, well I'm 
a dominatrix now. 

411
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,440
And he's like, oh, oh, really? 
He said. 

412
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,440
They have those types of things 
here, huh? 

413
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,320
I said yeah. 
I get that reaction too. 

414
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,880
Like here, Here. 
Yeah. 

415
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,240
Yeah, for real. 
And so, so that conversation was

416
00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:57,040
was rather funny, but I told 
him, I said, look, when you cut 

417
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,720
into my toes, I have to have 
pretty feet, so you can't take a

418
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,560
lot of my toes. 
So a lot of the toenail itself. 

419
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:11,480
So anyway, so he was super cool 
about that and and I had to go 

420
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,840
back. 
So I went back to him because 

421
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,960
I've had this one issue with my 
foot and he didn't recognize me 

422
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,800
again. 
And I was like, you know, 

423
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,800
doctor, you know what I do for a
living because he asked me again

424
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,720
and he's like, and I looked at 
his nurse. 

425
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,840
I said cover your ears. 
And I said, doctor, I'm a 

426
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,480
dominatrix, remember? 
And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, 

427
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,840
yeah, OK, OK. 
And he's like, So he's like. 

428
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,400
And then the nurse heard and the
nurse is like, Oh my God, is 

429
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,840
that what you do? 
That is so cool. 

430
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,640
She's like, do you get anybody 
with ABDL fetish? 

431
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,680
And I said actually I do so. 
Explained to the doctor what 

432
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,880
that meant. 
Yes. 

433
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,280
And he's like, yeah, what is 
that? 

434
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,120
And she's like, oh, it's adult 
baby diaper lovers. 

435
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,280
She's like, I watched an episode
of that on CSI. 

436
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,360
That's so funny. 
Is that not hilarious? 

437
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,720
And so she was going on a little
bit and then he's like, well, 

438
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,400
he's like, what are your some of
your strangest clients? 

439
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,960
You know, what are some of your 
strangers? 

440
00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:22,400
Always the question. 
They go to. 

441
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,320
What's the craziest? 
Thing you've ever done? 

442
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,760
Craziest thing, but I told him, 
I said, well, you know, there's 

443
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,560
a lot of different things that 
people like. 

444
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,560
I said, but you know, you're a 
foot man. 

445
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,640
I'll tell you. 
I said Boss Leonato is one of my

446
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,160
favorite things and I said it's 
impact on the feet. 

447
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,240
I said. 
And a lot of times it involves a

448
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,160
cane and he's like. 
Get out of here. 

449
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,120
I did some of that today. 
Right. 

450
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,920
And so when I did that, he was 
like, oh, that's so cool. 

451
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,280
He's like, so you're basically 
sending me clients and patience.

452
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,920
I said, yeah, I'm sending you 
patience. 

453
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,840
And so we continue on to 
conversation and he's like, you 

454
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,720
know, I would really love to 
learn more about this. 

455
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,880
And I said, well, you listen to 
our podcast, Mr. Smea Sunshine. 

456
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,600
He's like, oh, I'm going to do 
that. 

457
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,920
He's like, you know, some of my 
friends, they, they went to some

458
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,600
party here locally and they 
didn't know that a dominatrix 

459
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,200
was actually the Hostess it. 
Was your party wasn't. 

460
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,640
It yeah, it was my party and I 
was like, you know, Doctor, I'm 

461
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,680
the only dominatrix in town that
throws big parties. 

462
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,560
That's so. 
Funny. 

463
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,000
Yeah, and I said So what were 
their thoughts? 

464
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,200
He says they had a fun time, but
just really wasn't for them. 

465
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,800
It happens, it happens, he said.
I think there was a little bit 

466
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,600
too much BDSM, but I think that 
he wanted to refrain from 

467
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,320
telling his nurse that his 
friends were swingers, so that 

468
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,520
makes sense. 
Yeah, he didn't throw that part 

469
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,920
in there towards me, but. 
It's always funny seeing the mix

470
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,240
of swingers and kingsters, you 
know? 

471
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,480
Yeah. 
You know, say, say a group of 

472
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,400
10, you know, you got five 
couples that are, you know, into

473
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,680
just swinging. 
There's always one out of those 

474
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,600
five that they're kind of like, 
I don't think this is for me. 

475
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,240
I mean, we literally had one of 
the most vanilla scenes years 

476
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:14,480
ago when someone was just being 
tied in Shibari on my couch and 

477
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,840
a couple walked in and they're 
like Nope, Nope. 

478
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,880
We're leaving. 
And I'm like, really? 

479
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,960
Really. 
Yeah, very. 

480
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,080
Paid to get in. 
And they just left. 

481
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,000
What, what, what did they, what 
did they expect? 

482
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,680
What did they expect? 
Well, my thing of it is it's a 

483
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,960
big house. 
We have outdoor spaces. 

484
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,480
We have indoor spaces, you know,
and getting tied up seems very 

485
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,160
standard. 
Very standard. 

486
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,640
And she was. 
And it wasn't like they were 

487
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,200
hanging her up. 
She was just standing there. 

488
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,760
She was laying down, actually 
doing shibari, you know, he was 

489
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,080
working his way down. 
And, you know, attractive girl. 

490
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,720
Hey, not a big deal. 
I guess. 

491
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,280
Yeah, whatever. 
It was pretty crazy, honestly. 

492
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:02,200
But but anyway, the the doctor, 
he left the room and I had to 

493
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,800
get an injection in my foot. 
And so I was asking the nurse. 

494
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,440
I said, so how long for this to 
actually wear off because my 

495
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,920
foot is just a little numb. 
She said, well, you know, varies

496
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,600
from every person. 
I said, well, is it OK if I, you

497
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,800
know, go home and let my slave 
boy rub my feet for a few hours?

498
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,720
She says I am so jealous, so 
funny, isn't that? 

499
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,320
Funny, I like how you said slave
boy instead of saying can I go 

500
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,040
home and like have someone rub 
my feet? 

501
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,640
You you specifically were like, 
I'm gonna say slave boy I. 

502
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,840
Didn't even think about it. 
Just literally just, you know, 

503
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,440
rolling off the tongue. 
Yeah, fuck that. 

504
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,400
I mean I called the. 
Client a bitch boy today. 

505
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,080
See I did. 
I had to go pee mid session and 

506
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,680
he was tied down and I just went
wait right there and bitch boy 

507
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600
I'll be right back. 
I came back. 

508
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,000
I was like, did you miss me? 
I hate when I have to go to the 

509
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,720
bathroom during the scene. 
It it happens, I mean it was a 

510
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,120
three hour long session. 
So I had to go. 

511
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,120
So it happens. 
I'll turn away the pros and 

512
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,440
cons. 
I was like, can I wait another 2

513
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,640
1/2 hours? 
And then I was like. 

514
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,960
Nope. 
Yeah, I'm just gonna go and. 

515
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,920
It'd been very convenient. 
If he wanted him, he wanted you 

516
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,560
to piss on him. 
But no, I know Barbie's. 

517
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,080
Like I'm not in a mental state 
where I think I could piss on 

518
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,840
someone I know. 
Just send them outside by the 

519
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,640
pool. 
I go out there just. 

520
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,080
Pour some hot water on them. 
He would know the difference. 

521
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,760
I'm just kidding. 
I would do no such thing. 

522
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,000
You know when I did? 
When I did phone sex, a lot of 

523
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,800
people would call and say, can 
you go and pee and let me 

524
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,800
listen. 
And I'm like, fuck, yeah, I can.

525
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,440
Sure. 
I just got my bottle of water I 

526
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,880
always had and I just went over,
right over to the toilet and 

527
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,960
just like stopped it, started 
it. 

528
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,680
If they wouldn't hear me Jack 
off, I would take lotion like a 

529
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,960
big glob, put it to my hands. 
Oh yeah, go to town on my hands.

530
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,960
You know, they don't they, they 
just want the fantasy. 

531
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,240
Yeah, that's what people. 
Want the fantasy? 

532
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,200
That's nice. 
That's what it's about. 

533
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,680
It's about serving the fantasy 
and doing the fetish that they 

534
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,280
want. 
You know, it's not really about 

535
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,640
like the specifics of it 
sometimes. 

536
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,200
And that's kind of what's fun 
about it. 

537
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,080
You can take, like, little 
liberties with what's going on, 

538
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,640
you know? 
Exactly. 

539
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,840
You know, it's fun. 
At that party, there was this 

540
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,480
cute little boy reminding me of 
a little twink, but he was 

541
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,200
bisexual. 
He's the cutest bisexual man. 

542
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:25,480
God, yeah, He was sexy. 
He's got the cutest, just cutest

543
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,720
look about him. 
And then, of course, he whipped 

544
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,680
out his big, massive Dick. 
And I was like, damn. 

545
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,240
And so to watch him participate 
in a three-way while I'm 

546
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,960
standing up on the balcony 
watching that, I'm like, I stand

547
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,080
there and I'm like, I peaked. 
I'm like, how good is my life 

548
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,440
right now, right, you know? 
This is how I feel sometimes. 

549
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,280
Seriously, it's a great fucking 
life. 

550
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,880
Like, especially like, you know,
like it's just, it's just fun 

551
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,560
because my friends will be like,
do you have work tomorrow? 

552
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,680
And I'm like, yeah, I got to go 
to work for an hour. 

553
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,840
It's going to be so hard. 
It was so funny at the party. 

554
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,000
All my friends were like, oh, we
have to go. 

555
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000
We have to be a bit like 7:00 in
the morning. 

556
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,000
I'm like, guys, I have work 
tomorrow too. 

557
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,800
I have to wake up and look 
pretty and then I have to go in 

558
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,960
for an hour. 
Guys, it's. 

559
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,920
So hard, guys. 
It's so. 

560
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,040
Difficult. 
I have to go and let a man like 

561
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:28,240
massage my feet for an hour, 
like my life is hard to go hit 

562
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,080
somebody for an hour. 
Guys, gosh, I know. 

563
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,440
I love it. 
I love it. 

564
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:38,840
Well, I had, I've had, I don't 
really, I do tell people I do 

565
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,840
this, but I'm very like, it's 
interesting who I tell because 

566
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,080
my friends know I do this, but I
don't really just tell anybody. 

567
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,680
But I feel like a lot of people 
assume, you know, that I'm into 

568
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,280
stuff in some sense, especially 
with the kind of costumes I 

569
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,000
wear. 
Yeah, but I tested. 

570
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,640
I think I might have told you 
this, but we all went to the 

571
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,440
club and there was a guy with us
and he's a photographer. 

572
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,560
He had come to our shows and I 
had already heard through the 

573
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,560
Grapevine that he was trying to 
hit on my friend, but she's 

574
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,280
asexual, so she wasn't 
interested. 

575
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,920
And she was like, yeah, he 
mentioned pegging like three 

576
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960
times while we were hanging out.
And I was like, that's funny. 

577
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,240
So I tested out. 
I was like, I'm just going to 

578
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,920
tell him a dominatrix if he 
asked what I do for a living. 

579
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,360
And I did in his brain, I swear 
to God, short circuited in that 

580
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,040
moment. 
And he was like, well, what do 

581
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,560
you do? 
And I went well you know I hit 

582
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,320
people a peg men. 
Like I said that to be a bitch 

583
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,600
and he probably mentioned it 
like like 8 times. 

584
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,280
He wants you to peg him, Yeah. 
But he wouldn't say that. 

585
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,920
He was mentioning pegging and he
wanted me to bring it up and I 

586
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,440
wouldn't. 
I think I already said this on 

587
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,720
the podcast. 
But no, I don't recall this. 

588
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Well, he then we were at the 
club and he, we were talking to 

589
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,080
some couple outside of the 
bathroom and my friends were in 

590
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,880
the restroom and he goes, yeah, 
she picks people for a living. 

591
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,320
I was like, well, I just went, 
what are you talking about? 

592
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,600
I'm like, Oh my God, I do 
remember. 

593
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,080
You don't. 
Tell strangers that. 

594
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,640
What is Oh my. 
Jesus, it was so. 

595
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,520
It was so annoying, but he was 
sweet. 

596
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,520
But then my friends later were 
like, yeah, he's sweet. 

597
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,520
And then I told him what 
happened. 

598
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,240
They were like, we don't like 
that, but like, I'm trying to 

599
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,520
like, try to work it in and see 
how people react. 

600
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,880
Like some people react normally.
They think it's really cool. 

601
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,880
They want to know, like a fun 
story or two. 

602
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,200
Yeah. 
But then there's people like him

603
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,680
that are just like, oh, you do 
that. 

604
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,800
And then it's like brain off, 
penis on. 

605
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,960
And then there's like, oh 
really? 

606
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,360
Right. 
They start talking like 

607
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,520
scooby-doo. 
They're just. 

608
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,040
Drooling out of their mouth. 
Can I Jack off right now? 

609
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,800
No, that's like I was talking to
my friend. 

610
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,400
I was like, at what point when 
I'm dating someone do I 

611
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,480
disclose? 
My God, it's like I. 

612
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,520
Imagine it'd have to be pretty 
early on. 

613
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,040
Right on. 
Yeah, you have to tell them. 

614
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,480
That I'm like, if I tell them 
too early they might not respect

615
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,440
me anymore. 
You know what? 

616
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,200
I date them then. 
Exactly. 

617
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,160
You know what I really hate is 
that most everyone in my 

618
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,760
immediate family, they all know 
what I do. 

619
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,320
Yeah, but my oldest sister 
always thinks that I do types of

620
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,960
sex work in a sense, and I'm 
just like, ignorant. 

621
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,120
It is. 
And I'm like, why would you 

622
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,000
think that? 
I mean, I'm happily married. 

623
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,320
I'm not gonna be fucking 
somebody. 

624
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,000
That's the. 
Reason that stops me from being 

625
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,840
more open about it, yeah, is 
because I have a lot of friends 

626
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,760
who are who are sex workers, but
they're like only fans, girls, 

627
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,240
which there's nothing wrong with
that. 

628
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,280
But there is a big difference 
between in person sex workers 

629
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,880
and then online sex workers. 
And then even like my stripper 

630
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,440
friends, they're also sex 
workers. 

631
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,080
But it's very different to work 
in a strip club. 

632
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,160
I mean, I know some strip clubs 
are some strippers are turning 

633
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,480
tricks, but I'm not talking 
about them. 

634
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,040
I'm talking about your standard 
strippers that Just Dance for 

635
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,640
the money. 
There is a big difference kind 

636
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,640
of between that and then what we
do because I feel like what we 

637
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,600
do is so much more invasive and 
it's and it's like to just a 

638
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,800
different degree than them. 
And so I feel like I don't know,

639
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,480
I get, I don't like telling 
people because like I don't want

640
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,920
people to assume I'm fucking 
them, you know, because we see 

641
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,880
them in person and it's hard to 
explain. 

642
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,000
It's like, no, I'm not, I'm not 
having sex with these men. 

643
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,320
I know they're paying to see me,
but like, and I know I have to 

644
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,240
go like in there with them, but 
I'm, I'm not touching them, I'm 

645
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,440
not sucking their Dick. 
I'm not fucking them. 

646
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,680
And that's just what I don't 
want to have to answer to 

647
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,800
people. 
And that's why I kind of keep it

648
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,080
like low key. 
That's why I barely like being 

649
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,520
called a sex worker because I'm 
like, no, you don't understand. 

650
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,160
I see these in person, guys. 
I can't, you can't call me that.

651
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,200
I know technically nowadays it 
all falls under that term, but 

652
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,440
like no. 
It's too wide of an umbrella 

653
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,440
that has nothing to do with us. 
When you call yourself that and 

654
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,480
you sell pictures online, yeah, 
people know you're not fucking 

655
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,160
them. 
But when you call yourself that 

656
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,840
and you see clients in person, 
privately in a room, yeah, 

657
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,560
they're gonna assume that about.
They're gonna be definitely. 

658
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,840
Yeah, because if you say you're 
a sex worker, I work at a strip 

659
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,280
club, they know you're not doing
that. 

660
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,679
But for us, hell, even some 
clients that show up don't even 

661
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:11,440
believe us when we say we don't 
fuck you. 

662
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,679
You know what I mean? 
Oh yeah, I show that straight up

663
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:14,880
the rip. 
Yeah, you tell them that 

664
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,480
straight off the rip and they 
think you're lying. 

665
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,040
And then they show up like, oh, 
you're for real. 

666
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,239
And we're like, yes, why would 
we lie to you? 

667
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,000
Yeah, well, you know, and they 
think that by telling us, 

668
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,400
they'll tell us via text. 
They always say, well, I'm not 

669
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,199
affiliated with any law 
enforcement. 

670
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:35,560
And my response is always, well,
that's fine if you are, because 

671
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,199
running anything. 
Exactly. 

672
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,159
So I don't care if you're a cop 
or not. 

673
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,800
And I said we cater to BDSM 
fetishes and fans. 

674
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,400
It's always funny they try to 
pull the quick wink wink on us. 

675
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,320
I'm not a cop. 
Don't worry guys. 

676
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,600
And we're like, OK, cool. 
We're not prostitutes still. 

677
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,000
But they think that basically 
that pretty much gives you a 

678
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,760
free pass. 
Like you won't be arrested. 

679
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,960
They won't be arrested. 
So it's like all is good. 

680
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,000
I'm like, no, it's not good. 
There's a thing all over here, 

681
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,920
no? 
We like BDSM and fetishes. 

682
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,880
If you want to sleep with 
somebody, there are girls who do

683
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,400
that exactly. 
We do that. 

684
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,640
All the way all over, all over. 
Just not here. 

685
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,600
I respect girls. 
Who do that? 

686
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,280
I personally don't think I 
could, but like, yeah, take 

687
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,720
takes grit to be able to be, you
know, prostitute or a hooker, 

688
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:24,680
you know, I couldn't. 
Do it? 

689
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,680
Absolutely. 
I mean, we've talked to 

690
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,920
different people before, you 
know, I know that I've met one 

691
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,160
or two at different places in. 
Time I have friends who used to 

692
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,360
hook and yeah, they're like, 
yeah, it's not the best, but you

693
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,080
know, you make good money and 
it's kind of easy and you're 

694
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,040
like, yeah, I guess that's how 
you how you need to do it. 

695
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,960
But everyone has their limits 
and everyone has things they're 

696
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,200
willing to do. 
And yeah, like, like for me, 

697
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,320
example, I feel like I have more
like, I have more like reserved 

698
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,640
tendencies, especially when it 
comes to kink and playing and 

699
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,080
all sorts of stuff. 
But that's just a personality 

700
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,080
thing for me, you know, I'm very
content just sitting by myself 

701
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,720
at a party and not playing and 
just having a good time. 

702
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,480
I was going to say. 
And if anything, I always find 

703
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640
that we do a lot of 
role-playing. 

704
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:13,080
That's such a huge thing. 
I'm still getting used to the 

705
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,200
role play because I'm so used to
like, the negotiation 

706
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,840
beforehand. 
Yeah, because I for me, that's 

707
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,400
kind of like a security blanket.
Like when I can sit the guy down

708
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,280
and I can ask exactly what he 
wants to do, like, what are his 

709
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,480
limits? 
Like go over like the red, 

710
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,400
yellow, green. 
Like for me, that makes me feel 

711
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,600
like, OK, so I know what I'm 
going to do. 

712
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,360
I can plan it out in my head how
the scenes going to go. 

713
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,120
But when it's the role play once
that like from the jump, don't 

714
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,120
even want you to acknowledge 
that like you know there he's. 

715
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,040
Coming in for a certain reason, 
rather. 

716
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,440
Than yeah, they're like me, 
he'll be like, OK, he's gonna 

717
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,760
come in and you don't need to 
say anything to him. 

718
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,560
Just go ahead and start and I'll
be like, well let's see what 

719
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,200
what does he want to do? 
And. 

720
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,280
She's like just. 
Go with the flow. 

721
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,720
And I'm like, there's no flow. 
He hasn't told me anything. 

722
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,400
Pull his hair. 
Pull him down on the floor. 

723
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,720
She gave me like and I did the 
exact rundown you told me to do.

724
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,040
She like, gave me a small 
script. 

725
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,800
She's like when he comes in just
yell at him, grab him by the 

726
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,880
air, throw him on the floor, 
make him take off his clothes. 

727
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,480
And I did. 
And then I just tied him down 

728
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,160
when she told me to and she was 
like do CBT for an hour, OK? 

729
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,960
And I did it. 
Beat the shit out of him. 

730
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,320
Well, it's so. 
Fun. 

731
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,480
The other role play, one that me
and Ruby did we we were both 

732
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,520
lost because halfway through he 
couldn't get pegged. 

733
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,480
He didn't like pain and so we 
were, but we were deep in role 

734
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,400
play where we were playing 
characters. 

735
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,240
So we were kind of like, we 
can't really ask him what he 

736
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:50,960
wants or what he wants to do. 
So that was, that's why like 

737
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,080
sometimes, like I like, I don't 
mind role-playing, but I do like

738
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,560
having that little beforehand 
interaction a little bit just so

739
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,120
I can figure out what we, what 
we can do. 

740
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,200
You know, and I think in all the
years I've done this, I've had 

741
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,760
maybe five people that have come
in, they have handed me an 

742
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,440
envelope with an entire list of 
dos and don'ts. 

743
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,560
That's. 
Would love that. 

744
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,720
Would you love that? 
Well, yeah, I would love you 

745
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,640
have to tell me. 
Well, yeah, just even if you can

746
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,040
verbally say it just like, okay,
so I like Impact, but I don't 

747
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,800
like CBT and I would like to get
pegged, but I don't want it to 

748
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,160
be a giant dildo. 
If a man came in and said that 

749
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,680
to me, I would be like perfect. 
I know exactly how the sessions 

750
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,840
going to go. 
I know exactly how we're going 

751
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,280
to start and how we're going to 
end it. 

752
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,000
I can fill in all the little in 
betweens or if a man came in, it

753
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,840
was like, I really like CBT, but
I don't want to hit be hit any 

754
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,320
bit where else. 
And I also like feet. 

755
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,520
Perfect. 
I know what we can do, but when 

756
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,320
they come in and you're like, 
what do you want to do? 

757
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,360
They're like, well, I'm down for
anything. 

758
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,520
Don't say that. 
God, and that's the truth. 

759
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:04,200
And then you start naming things
and like, well, I'm not really 

760
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,000
into that. 
I'm like, so you're not. 

761
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,720
All right, let's send it on that
note. 

762
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,120
So you ready? 
Yes, All right. 

763
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:17,240
And until then, may all your 
fantasies become. 

764
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:18,400
Realities.
