Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Mistress Mia's
Tension. I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia,
and my Co host is here with me, the Barbie.
Hi. Yeah.
So Goldentagen, Barbie and I were just having a discussion.
She was at the party. I was.
Ruby wanted to have her top her. That was shocking.
I thought it was a trap. And then she's like, Oh, well,
you know, Barbie, you can look through my toy bag.
Ruby's toys are so scary for me. Pulled out was a rubber flogger
with like razor blades. Like what the fuck?
I was like, this is a medieval torture device.
Like my bag is just full of like like heart-shaped paddles and
stuff. And then I look into Ruby's bag
and I'm like, there's dead people in here.
I can't. She keeps theirs in the trunk,
not in her bag. Barbie.
Yeah, Ruby's hardcore. She is much more than I Ruby is
more of a brutalist and I'm more of a centralist, I feel.
And, you know, we, we each bring something unique.
Yeah. I think to our, to our talents,
you know, in the dungeon. I think we all have our own.
What's the word I want to use? Vibe.
Yeah, you can use vibe. And I think that, you know, when
we're in there, we all have our own unique way of doing things,
you know? So you were just saying really?
Or you're like a sensualist and you know touching other people
to you is an intimate act. Well, that's my issue sometimes,
like with playing with people, like some I'm friends with Ruby,
but like I don't, I feel like I'm not super close with Ruby.
So like when we were doing it, I didn't really know what to do
because I was like, well, I don't, I don't want to touch her
because that feels inappropriate.
But then I'm like hitting her and then I'm like, so I hit her
for probably like 5 minutes and then I was like all that because
like I usually only play with like people.
I'm like, like involved with and so that makes it very different.
Like when you're like like sleeping with somebody you
playing with like and get very intimate.
And the only other person I really play with that parties is
an old friend of mine. And like it's different because
I've known them forever and I don't know, I just get so
nervous and I'm just like, I don't know what to do.
I don't want to be rude. I don't want to violate this
woman. Well, you know, and Ruby was
talking about it with all of us on a Sunday after the party.
And she was like, you know, I wanted Barbie to get in the
practice. She's like, and I really needed
to be topped, you know, I really needed to feel.
It was not the best. Submissive.
Yeah, but you know, you know, the thing of it is you all don't
know each other that well, like you said.
And that makes all the difference, especially.
For me, like with playing, like call me a prude if you like, I
don't know, I just get all like locked up when it's someone I
don't know. But like also it's with clients,
it's a bit different for me as well because it's private.
You know, we're in the dungeon by ourselves, you know, the
lighting, so the music's there. So being like more touchy with
a, with a client is a bit different for me as well than it
is like somebody that I'm like somewhat friends with.
Like it almost feels weirder. To like.
To like, touch someone like you're friends with.
And so I feel bad because like, she's like, do you want to
practice? And I was like, yeah.
And then we get up there and like 20 million people are in
the room and they're all standing there holding toys of
rubies and the passing me toys. And I was like, and one of them
kept trying to hand me the scariest rubber dragon tail
ever. And I'm like, do not hand me the
scariest toy I've ever seen in my life.
Well, because I didn't want to. I didn't want to hurt Ruby.
And I know Ruby likes all the toys she owns because she uses
them all herself, she said. But I was just like, look, I
don't have the experience to use a rubber dragon tail.
But I think Ruby wanted me to practice because she saw me mess
up a whip in the dungeon twice. So I was too close to my friend
and I missed twice. And she was like Barbie.
And I was like, I saw her. And then later she was like, do
you want to come practice? I was like, got to say yes, she
saw me fuck up earlier. You know, it happens, you know,
and I know that, you know, you're, you're so new to this.
But as I tell people, when you go in there, you listen to
clients, you gauge their their reactions, you listen to what
they want and you try to make their fantasy reality, you know,
and I think that's, that's the key.
I think you get an A for effort and you're going to make
mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes.
You know, there's that learning curve.
Because I am I am new. I'm still under a year of doing
it professionally, so I feel like I'm still in that stage
where it's like, yeah, some things you just can't prepare
for till you interact with it. That's true.
You know, can't, can't prepare someone for every single variant
of like situation out there. Sometimes things just happen,
you know? You know, I have a very good
friend of mine and she came out of state because she really
wants to be a professional Dom. And, you know, we talked about a
lot of different things and it was really, you know, when she
asked me specific things, I was just like, well, you know, the
only way you can really get the experience is by doing it
yourself. You know, I said, let's run ads.
You know, we will. I'll reach out to a couple of my
local regulars and, you know, you can just kind of, you know,
watch and participate and you can help me.
And she learned a lot is what I, I really believe she did.
I think that she felt more confident about it.
You know, the one kind of client that we didn't get though, and
she really wants to learn more about is cross dressing.
Oh, you know that was we did that on my.
First day, I think, yeah, we had a lot of clients, my first.
Day. Yes.
Yes, we did. I got to see a variety.
Of things you sure did and he was a fun crossdresser too.
Sweets pie he was because you remember he came in he already
had his heels like he dressed up I.
Think he already had like booty shorts on?
We put a little leotard on him. Yeah, he.
Also wanted to do the back bed. Yeah, he was in there most of
the night. See.
And that's so easy. Love the back bed clients.
Right I. Love it.
We have a client that that goes in the back bed for what, two
hours? Yes, that's all he wants.
That's all he wants, just in the back bed for two full hours and
like, we'll like hit him with a flogger here and there just to
keep him on his toes, but right. And then I'll take, you know,
the, the latex Lube that's, you know, good for the latex back
bed anyway. And I'll pour it on him, and
I'll rub him and I'll tickle him.
And you know, because you can still feel, you know, while
you're under there. But he says, you know, his mind
just shuts down. He said he's almost fallen
asleep several times. I.
Liked it when I was in there, I just didn't have the earplugs in
so it freaked me out because I thought my eardrums were going
to fly out of my. Head Yeah, yeah, he can't stand
there very long at all without your earplugs.
No, it was pretty nice. Like I feel like if I could
control it myself from the inside, I'd like it, you know
what I mean? I wish there was like a way to
do that right? Because I think what I dislike
is having to have someone there. I don't know why, maybe I am a
prude. No, I I totally get it because I
remember how you were telling me you're like, yeah, when I do an
edible, I just go in the shower. Turn the lights off.
Sit in the sit at the bottom of the shower.
Turn the lights off. I'm like, yeah, it's funny
because people like, oh, do you smoke?
Not with people. Me getting high is a private
experience. Yeah, you know, do you feel like
it's a vulnerable point? I don't.
I think I just like being by myself.
Yeah, I guess I was just like experiencing it by myself.
Yeah. I'll make myself a little
dinner. I'll take my little edible and
then I'll go find a nice little corner to sit in and then I'll
see you in six hours and then I go to bed.
I wish I could say the one time that I had edibles was a
pleasant experience, but it was a horrible experience.
Gave me some edibles at the party and I didn't get high.
I got sleepy, but Rabbit took some and it didn't hit him until
he got home and then he felt like it would never end.
He's texting us like guys, I am so high, right?
Now, Oh, God, yeah. You know, a client had given me
some about a year and a half ago, and I had never, never even
had an edible. And I thought, oh, OK, you know,
a little cookie. So I had a cookie.
And I was like, well, that's weird.
This really hasn't taken effect. I think you told me this and I
was on your way to the mall. I hit you.
Yeah, and I forgot that I had even taken it because my back
was bothering me. Yeah.
And I thought, oh, it'll relax me.
So I laid down for like an hour and then I got up to go to the
mall and Bree was with me and I was driving and I started seeing
like tunnel, like a tunnel in my mind.
And I was like tunnel vision. I was like, oh Lord, I was like,
what's wrong? What?
What is so? This is so amusing to me.
Like so. I've been hiding them all.
I was so fucked up. No, I was driving.
I was on the. Illegal Mia.
I was on the Interstate. I'd forgotten I had taken it, I
was so drained. I am once.
I took an edible and my sorry, I didn't mean they're up, but no,
me and my friend, we were at her house and she lived a mile away
from a Wendy's. So we took the edible and I said
in like 20 minutes later I was like, let's go to Wendy's before
the edible hit. So we have food.
Yeah. And we drive up there, we get
our food, and as I'm leaving the edible, it hits.
And I was like, oh God. So I had to drive the mile back
to her house. I literally felt like I was
playing a video game. It's probably some of the best
driving I ever did because I just was focusing so hard on not
messing up. Well, you know when it hit me
and I realized I just started dying laughing like so hard.
I get. Into giggle fits too.
So I was on my way to the mall and I said, hey, let's go to
Culver's. And I mean, I never, when I go
to Culver's, I usually just get a little ice cream, that's it.
But man, I got like a peanut butter and chocolate shake.
I got the cheese curds, some French fries.
I was like, God, I'm hungry. You know, that happened to me
and me and Charles at one of your parties a few parties ago.
So a girl was like, do you want to hit my pin?
And we were like, how strong is it?
And she was like, not strong at all.
We didn't know she was a a giant Stoner.
Oh my God. So we took little hits.
We got the munchies so bad before the party.
We were fucking up that charcuterie board and the party
hadn't even started yet. We're like, we have to replace
all this. He was fucked up.
He came out pretty quickly. His did not.
He was so fucked up. He came out and he was like Mia.
I'll smoke drugs, I'll smoke a pin with somebody like a vape,
like the weed vapes, because you get you're not high long.
Yeah, that's the thing about edibles.
You're high so long that it's like if I got took an edible
with somebody, we're both going to be high for so long.
And that just sounds like hell. I was like, if you want to be
high together, someone just needs to go get one of the pins
or something because I don't like smoking a joint.
That's just yucky. It makes me want to throw up.
Wow, I used to love it when my niece introduced me to what is
it the the vaporizer. What do you think?
What do you call those where you put water in it?
Diffuser. Diffuser.
There you go. I love diffuser.
And she would put ice in it and God, it was amazing.
Sometimes I'll I'll boil water and I'll put my face over the
boiling water to see my face. See.
Yeah, A. Good sweat is good for the skin
sometimes. It is, but inhaling it to me has
never bothered me. But that edible, I was sick all
through the day, all through the night, and I didn't feel right
until the next day. The only time I ever got sick
off an edible, it was so psychosomatic.
I had just convinced myself I needed to throw up and I didn't
throw up. And I was like, you don't throw
up, you're going to get sick. And I was like, I just convinced
myself I had to throw up. And then I did it.
And then afterwards I'm like, I'm still high.
That didn't work. Oh my God that sucks.
It was so weird too. My brain just like, convinced
itself this had to happen and it did not need to happen.
God bless SO. Back to the party.
Back to the party, tell us what was your take on it?
The party was really fun. It was much more condensed space
wise and I feel like that was really beneficial for the party.
I felt like it it forced people to kind of mingle and be around
each other because it rained for the first hour or two.
So like all the outside area like was unavailable.
And so like I noticed people were like talking to each other
a lot more than you'd usually see.
Like they like a lot of small talk.
Yeah, they really engaged and it was your idea.
You told me you're like, you know, put the put the tents over
closer to the house, close off that side yard and it worked.
It worked. Better because if you had like
300 people showing up to your party, we would need all that
space. But if we're only having like 75
people, you know, yeah, it's like it's easy to just condense
it, force them all to bump elbows.
That's what the cut these kind of parties are for anyways.
Yeah, we've had less than 100 all through summer.
It's it's been crazy, but it works.
It works out because. They're more consistent and oh,
I can just catch the next one. But when you go back to doing
them sporadically, people will be more inclined to go to them.
Oh yeah, well I'm not having any this winter so they're going to
be shit out a lot. I thought you're doing one in
October. Well, it's still fall true.
You know, are you going to do one in February then?
No, February is my birthday. Oh.
Happy birthday. Thanks you too.
So you coming back in March or something?
Probably March or April. My birthday month see.
Yeah, it's right there. I knew it was right there, but
yeah, you know, fuck that. I don't want to do anything
during the winter. I don't think you know.
Yeah, I mean. It's a lot of fucking work.
It is. And honestly I like, I run
events and stuff too, and December holidays, not a good
time for events. Like people just don't go big.
People are saving up for holidays, they're travelling.
Like no one wants to spend the door fee on things like yeah,
like we're only having a show in December.
Like, we weren't going to, and we decided to have a show in
December just because so many people want to be in our shows.
So we're just going to do a showcase or something like yeah.
But. No, the party was really fun.
We we closed off some like the kitchen from like the living
room and it kind of made it like a little bit of a viewing area
for like the the orgy bed we had.
Yeah, that were a tank, right? Yeah, and I think honestly,
having that kind of like area would be cool because I, I
noticed people were more likely to like play with each other
too, because they were all forced to sit there and look.
At each other, Look at each other.
Exactly. So tell us, you know, I know
what you do on the side, but a lot of people don't realize you
do drag shows. I do.
I do drag shows and I do performance art and I'm also a
normal artist too. Right, of course you are.
I have all the jobs parents don't want your kids to have.
Drag queen, dominatrix and artist making Mama proud.
Right, So what do you do in your drag shows?
Well, so I run and I've run a group called the Sapphic Stage
and we've only put on two events so far.
We're very new to like the scene.
And so our first one went really good.
We had like over 100 people show up.
We didn't do anything too crazy because you know, the venue was
kind of strict. Like they were like, they paid
well, but they were kind of like, you can't do this.
Like you need to look classy, see, like, you know, so it was
definitely everyone had to be like fully covered and like, not
that we're like doing nudie shows or anything like that, but
you definitely had to like, it was a bit more effort, you know,
to do it. And they also like were very
picky about what events they host.
So we didn't really have a lot of creative freedom, but it was
a lovely venue. We did enjoy working there, but
we got booked at a different venue, which is really nice
because this venue is like one of the punk venues around.
They, they told us you can do anything you want as long as
like you clean up your mess when you're done.
And we were like, don't tell us that, right?
So we, we were able to do so much more.
Like we had a whole fire show. We had someone doing a human
pincushion act and it was freak show themed.
It was a drag show, freak show. So that's why we had like so
many different kinds of people. We had a girl doing aerial
performances. She like hung from a hoop and
then she hung from chains like and she we were all like wearing
like 8 inch stripper fetish heels.
I. Don't know how you do it.
It was crazy. And then, of course, you know,
Rabbit was in it and Rabbit wore his little clown costume and he
had the little pasties on and was running around the room and
everyone loved it. It honestly was such a cool show
that like people were like, this is one of the best shows the
city has seen in like a hot minute.
I was like, yes. I can imagine why it would be.
I mean they, they. We put in the effort and I was.
Gonna say just the costumes alone were crazy.
No. And it was so cool because like,
like, because we're a bunch of like girls or like a fab people
like doing drag, which is not very popular.
So we were really excited that our events have just been going
so well because it's kind of like a, well, we're going to do
it too, you know, right, Because a lot of the people I book had
issues getting booked and with like more traditional drag
Queens that are men, they just, they really wouldn't book us.
And if they did, they would only book one of us per show kind of
thing. Like just as a like a like, oh,
there's one, you know what I mean, just to include.
But we were like, no, we, I think we need to make our own
space at this point. But we kind of did it and now
we're, we're really demolishing at it and we're really.
Excited about it. That's so exciting.
I know it is super cool and our next one's Halloween and of
course like it's going to be insane.
Like I've already, they're already all thinking of things
they want to do. We're probably going to buy a
few tarps for that show with the amount of bloodshed that.
Might happen, right? Well, now you need to go like to
bigger cities. That's the plan.
Like my Co host who runs it, she's moving to LA in January so
she's hoping to maybe bring some shows over there and there'd
just be two sex of it. And but yeah, our next show, our
next big show after the Halloween one is going to be in
February, hopefully. We're hoping to do like a
Valentine's Day burlesque show. We think that'd be very.
Cute. Oh, I'm sure it will.
Without a doubt. I know it's so exciting because.
All of the girls commit so hard, like they're all my friends and
I love them. And you'll be like, hey, guys,
can you be in the show? And they're like, yes.
And we're going to commit to the bit so hard.
We're going to do like everything we can.
And it's just like, yes, thank you.
So aside from that and your other job is being a dominatrix,
what are the perks? Well, I I like that, like the
schedules flexible and it's honestly just, it's a fun, it's
a conversation starter. I don't mention it a ton, yeah,
but it is, it is interesting to have like, not it, it feels like
not a real job, but it is a real job.
Yeah. It is just funny.
Like when people are like asked what you do, I'm always like,
well, what do I say? Do I say drag queen or
dominatrix? Both sound bad and both have a
lot of questions tied to it. Oh shit.
I, I usually just, I usually just say, oh, I'm a freelance
artist or something like that. And that also has a ton of
questions tied to it. All right, so I'm going to tell
you a story. So I've gone to my podiatrist,
yeah, probably about nine months ago.
Nice guy. I knew him from years ago
because he knew what I used to do with my family business, you
know, 20 plus years ago. And so he came in, he's like, I
know you. And I said yeah, you know, I'm
such and such from this. And he's like, oh, OK, So what
do you do for a living now? Yeah.
Well, the family business was not dominatrix work.
It was not BTSM. It was in the medical field.
So I told him, I said, well I'm a dominatrix now.
And he's like, oh, oh, really? He said.
They have those types of things here, huh?
I said yeah. I get that reaction too.
Like here, Here. Yeah.
Yeah, for real. And so, so that conversation was
was rather funny, but I told him, I said, look, when you cut
into my toes, I have to have pretty feet, so you can't take a
lot of my toes. So a lot of the toenail itself.
So anyway, so he was super cool about that and and I had to go
back. So I went back to him because
I've had this one issue with my foot and he didn't recognize me
again. And I was like, you know,
doctor, you know what I do for a living because he asked me again
and he's like, and I looked at his nurse.
I said cover your ears. And I said, doctor, I'm a
dominatrix, remember? And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah,
yeah, OK, OK. And he's like, So he's like.
And then the nurse heard and the nurse is like, Oh my God, is
that what you do? That is so cool.
She's like, do you get anybody with ABDL fetish?
And I said actually I do so. Explained to the doctor what
that meant. Yes.
And he's like, yeah, what is that?
And she's like, oh, it's adult baby diaper lovers.
She's like, I watched an episode of that on CSI.
That's so funny. Is that not hilarious?
And so she was going on a little bit and then he's like, well,
he's like, what are your some of your strangest clients?
You know, what are some of your strangers?
Always the question. They go to.
What's the craziest? Thing you've ever done?
Craziest thing, but I told him, I said, well, you know, there's
a lot of different things that people like.
I said, but you know, you're a foot man.
I'll tell you. I said Boss Leonato is one of my
favorite things and I said it's impact on the feet.
I said. And a lot of times it involves a
cane and he's like. Get out of here.
I did some of that today. Right.
And so when I did that, he was like, oh, that's so cool.
He's like, so you're basically sending me clients and patience.
I said, yeah, I'm sending you patience.
And so we continue on to conversation and he's like, you
know, I would really love to learn more about this.
And I said, well, you listen to our podcast, Mr. Smea Sunshine.
He's like, oh, I'm going to do that.
He's like, you know, some of my friends, they, they went to some
party here locally and they didn't know that a dominatrix
was actually the Hostess it. Was your party wasn't.
It yeah, it was my party and I was like, you know, Doctor, I'm
the only dominatrix in town that throws big parties.
That's so. Funny.
Yeah, and I said So what were their thoughts?
He says they had a fun time, but just really wasn't for them.
It happens, it happens, he said. I think there was a little bit
too much BDSM, but I think that he wanted to refrain from
telling his nurse that his friends were swingers, so that
makes sense. Yeah, he didn't throw that part
in there towards me, but. It's always funny seeing the mix
of swingers and kingsters, you know?
Yeah. You know, say, say a group of
10, you know, you got five couples that are, you know, into
just swinging. There's always one out of those
five that they're kind of like, I don't think this is for me.
I mean, we literally had one of the most vanilla scenes years
ago when someone was just being tied in Shibari on my couch and
a couple walked in and they're like Nope, Nope.
We're leaving. And I'm like, really?
Really. Yeah, very.
Paid to get in. And they just left.
What, what, what did they, what did they expect?
What did they expect? Well, my thing of it is it's a
big house. We have outdoor spaces.
We have indoor spaces, you know, and getting tied up seems very
standard. Very standard.
And she was. And it wasn't like they were
hanging her up. She was just standing there.
She was laying down, actually doing shibari, you know, he was
working his way down. And, you know, attractive girl.
Hey, not a big deal. I guess.
Yeah, whatever. It was pretty crazy, honestly.
But but anyway, the the doctor, he left the room and I had to
get an injection in my foot. And so I was asking the nurse.
I said, so how long for this to actually wear off because my
foot is just a little numb. She said, well, you know, varies
from every person. I said, well, is it OK if I, you
know, go home and let my slave boy rub my feet for a few hours?
She says I am so jealous, so funny, isn't that?
Funny, I like how you said slave boy instead of saying can I go
home and like have someone rub my feet?
You you specifically were like, I'm gonna say slave boy I.
Didn't even think about it. Just literally just, you know,
rolling off the tongue. Yeah, fuck that.
I mean I called the. Client a bitch boy today.
See I did. I had to go pee mid session and
he was tied down and I just went wait right there and bitch boy
I'll be right back. I came back.
I was like, did you miss me? I hate when I have to go to the
bathroom during the scene. It it happens, I mean it was a
three hour long session. So I had to go.
So it happens. I'll turn away the pros and
cons. I was like, can I wait another 2
1/2 hours? And then I was like.
Nope. Yeah, I'm just gonna go and.
It'd been very convenient. If he wanted him, he wanted you
to piss on him. But no, I know Barbie's.
Like I'm not in a mental state where I think I could piss on
someone I know. Just send them outside by the
pool. I go out there just.
Pour some hot water on them. He would know the difference.
I'm just kidding. I would do no such thing.
You know when I did? When I did phone sex, a lot of
people would call and say, can you go and pee and let me
listen. And I'm like, fuck, yeah, I can.
Sure. I just got my bottle of water I
always had and I just went over, right over to the toilet and
just like stopped it, started it.
If they wouldn't hear me Jack off, I would take lotion like a
big glob, put it to my hands. Oh yeah, go to town on my hands.
You know, they don't they, they just want the fantasy.
Yeah, that's what people. Want the fantasy?
That's nice. That's what it's about.
It's about serving the fantasy and doing the fetish that they
want. You know, it's not really about
like the specifics of it sometimes.
And that's kind of what's fun about it.
You can take, like, little liberties with what's going on,
you know? Exactly.
You know, it's fun. At that party, there was this
cute little boy reminding me of a little twink, but he was
bisexual. He's the cutest bisexual man.
God, yeah, He was sexy. He's got the cutest, just cutest
look about him. And then, of course, he whipped
out his big, massive Dick. And I was like, damn.
And so to watch him participate in a three-way while I'm
standing up on the balcony watching that, I'm like, I stand
there and I'm like, I peaked. I'm like, how good is my life
right now, right, you know? This is how I feel sometimes.
Seriously, it's a great fucking life.
Like, especially like, you know, like it's just, it's just fun
because my friends will be like, do you have work tomorrow?
And I'm like, yeah, I got to go to work for an hour.
It's going to be so hard. It was so funny at the party.
All my friends were like, oh, we have to go.
We have to be a bit like 7:00 in the morning.
I'm like, guys, I have work tomorrow too.
I have to wake up and look pretty and then I have to go in
for an hour. Guys, it's.
So hard, guys. It's so.
Difficult. I have to go and let a man like
massage my feet for an hour, like my life is hard to go hit
somebody for an hour. Guys, gosh, I know.
I love it. I love it.
Well, I had, I've had, I don't really, I do tell people I do
this, but I'm very like, it's interesting who I tell because
my friends know I do this, but I don't really just tell anybody.
But I feel like a lot of people assume, you know, that I'm into
stuff in some sense, especially with the kind of costumes I
wear. Yeah, but I tested.
I think I might have told you this, but we all went to the
club and there was a guy with us and he's a photographer.
He had come to our shows and I had already heard through the
Grapevine that he was trying to hit on my friend, but she's
asexual, so she wasn't interested.
And she was like, yeah, he mentioned pegging like three
times while we were hanging out. And I was like, that's funny.
So I tested out. I was like, I'm just going to
tell him a dominatrix if he asked what I do for a living.
And I did in his brain, I swear to God, short circuited in that
moment. And he was like, well, what do
you do? And I went well you know I hit
people a peg men. Like I said that to be a bitch
and he probably mentioned it like like 8 times.
He wants you to peg him, Yeah. But he wouldn't say that.
He was mentioning pegging and he wanted me to bring it up and I
wouldn't. I think I already said this on
the podcast. But no, I don't recall this.
Well, he then we were at the club and he, we were talking to
some couple outside of the bathroom and my friends were in
the restroom and he goes, yeah, she picks people for a living.
I was like, well, I just went, what are you talking about?
I'm like, Oh my God, I do remember.
You don't. Tell strangers that.
What is Oh my. Jesus, it was so.
It was so annoying, but he was sweet.
But then my friends later were like, yeah, he's sweet.
And then I told him what happened.
They were like, we don't like that, but like, I'm trying to
like, try to work it in and see how people react.
Like some people react normally. They think it's really cool.
They want to know, like a fun story or two.
Yeah. But then there's people like him
that are just like, oh, you do that.
And then it's like brain off, penis on.
And then there's like, oh really?
Right. They start talking like
scooby-doo. They're just.
Drooling out of their mouth. Can I Jack off right now?
No, that's like I was talking to my friend.
I was like, at what point when I'm dating someone do I
disclose? My God, it's like I.
Imagine it'd have to be pretty early on.
Right on. Yeah, you have to tell them.
That I'm like, if I tell them too early they might not respect
me anymore. You know what?
I date them then. Exactly.
You know what I really hate is that most everyone in my
immediate family, they all know what I do.
Yeah, but my oldest sister always thinks that I do types of
sex work in a sense, and I'm just like, ignorant.
It is. And I'm like, why would you
think that? I mean, I'm happily married.
I'm not gonna be fucking somebody.
That's the. Reason that stops me from being
more open about it, yeah, is because I have a lot of friends
who are who are sex workers, but they're like only fans, girls,
which there's nothing wrong with that.
But there is a big difference between in person sex workers
and then online sex workers. And then even like my stripper
friends, they're also sex workers.
But it's very different to work in a strip club.
I mean, I know some strip clubs are some strippers are turning
tricks, but I'm not talking about them.
I'm talking about your standard strippers that Just Dance for
the money. There is a big difference kind
of between that and then what we do because I feel like what we
do is so much more invasive and it's and it's like to just a
different degree than them. And so I feel like I don't know,
I get, I don't like telling people because like I don't want
people to assume I'm fucking them, you know, because we see
them in person and it's hard to explain.
It's like, no, I'm not, I'm not having sex with these men.
I know they're paying to see me, but like, and I know I have to
go like in there with them, but I'm, I'm not touching them, I'm
not sucking their Dick. I'm not fucking them.
And that's just what I don't want to have to answer to
people. And that's why I kind of keep it
like low key. That's why I barely like being
called a sex worker because I'm like, no, you don't understand.
I see these in person, guys. I can't, you can't call me that.
I know technically nowadays it all falls under that term, but
like no. It's too wide of an umbrella
that has nothing to do with us. When you call yourself that and
you sell pictures online, yeah, people know you're not fucking
them. But when you call yourself that
and you see clients in person, privately in a room, yeah,
they're gonna assume that about. They're gonna be definitely.
Yeah, because if you say you're a sex worker, I work at a strip
club, they know you're not doing that.
But for us, hell, even some clients that show up don't even
believe us when we say we don't fuck you.
You know what I mean? Oh yeah, I show that straight up
the rip. Yeah, you tell them that
straight off the rip and they think you're lying.
And then they show up like, oh, you're for real.
And we're like, yes, why would we lie to you?
Yeah, well, you know, and they think that by telling us,
they'll tell us via text. They always say, well, I'm not
affiliated with any law enforcement.
And my response is always, well, that's fine if you are, because
running anything. Exactly.
So I don't care if you're a cop or not.
And I said we cater to BDSM fetishes and fans.
It's always funny they try to pull the quick wink wink on us.
I'm not a cop. Don't worry guys.
And we're like, OK, cool. We're not prostitutes still.
But they think that basically that pretty much gives you a
free pass. Like you won't be arrested.
They won't be arrested. So it's like all is good.
I'm like, no, it's not good. There's a thing all over here,
no? We like BDSM and fetishes.
If you want to sleep with somebody, there are girls who do
that exactly. We do that.
All the way all over, all over. Just not here.
I respect girls. Who do that?
I personally don't think I could, but like, yeah, take
takes grit to be able to be, you know, prostitute or a hooker,
you know, I couldn't. Do it?
Absolutely. I mean, we've talked to
different people before, you know, I know that I've met one
or two at different places in. Time I have friends who used to
hook and yeah, they're like, yeah, it's not the best, but you
know, you make good money and it's kind of easy and you're
like, yeah, I guess that's how you how you need to do it.
But everyone has their limits and everyone has things they're
willing to do. And yeah, like, like for me,
example, I feel like I have more like, I have more like reserved
tendencies, especially when it comes to kink and playing and
all sorts of stuff. But that's just a personality
thing for me, you know, I'm very content just sitting by myself
at a party and not playing and just having a good time.
I was going to say. And if anything, I always find
that we do a lot of role-playing.
That's such a huge thing. I'm still getting used to the
role play because I'm so used to like, the negotiation
beforehand. Yeah, because I for me, that's
kind of like a security blanket. Like when I can sit the guy down
and I can ask exactly what he wants to do, like, what are his
limits? Like go over like the red,
yellow, green. Like for me, that makes me feel
like, OK, so I know what I'm going to do.
I can plan it out in my head how the scenes going to go.
But when it's the role play once that like from the jump, don't
even want you to acknowledge that like you know there he's.
Coming in for a certain reason, rather.
Than yeah, they're like me, he'll be like, OK, he's gonna
come in and you don't need to say anything to him.
Just go ahead and start and I'll be like, well let's see what
what does he want to do? And.
She's like just. Go with the flow.
And I'm like, there's no flow. He hasn't told me anything.
Pull his hair. Pull him down on the floor.
She gave me like and I did the exact rundown you told me to do.
She like, gave me a small script.
She's like when he comes in just yell at him, grab him by the
air, throw him on the floor, make him take off his clothes.
And I did. And then I just tied him down
when she told me to and she was like do CBT for an hour, OK?
And I did it. Beat the shit out of him.
Well, it's so. Fun.
The other role play, one that me and Ruby did we we were both
lost because halfway through he couldn't get pegged.
He didn't like pain and so we were, but we were deep in role
play where we were playing characters.
So we were kind of like, we can't really ask him what he
wants or what he wants to do. So that was, that's why like
sometimes, like I like, I don't mind role-playing, but I do like
having that little beforehand interaction a little bit just so
I can figure out what we, what we can do.
You know, and I think in all the years I've done this, I've had
maybe five people that have come in, they have handed me an
envelope with an entire list of dos and don'ts.
That's. Would love that.
Would you love that? Well, yeah, I would love you
have to tell me. Well, yeah, just even if you can
verbally say it just like, okay, so I like Impact, but I don't
like CBT and I would like to get pegged, but I don't want it to
be a giant dildo. If a man came in and said that
to me, I would be like perfect. I know exactly how the sessions
going to go. I know exactly how we're going
to start and how we're going to end it.
I can fill in all the little in betweens or if a man came in, it
was like, I really like CBT, but I don't want to hit be hit any
bit where else. And I also like feet.
Perfect. I know what we can do, but when
they come in and you're like, what do you want to do?
They're like, well, I'm down for anything.
Don't say that. God, and that's the truth.
And then you start naming things and like, well, I'm not really
into that. I'm like, so you're not.
All right, let's send it on that note.
So you ready? Yes, All right.
And until then, may all your fantasies become.
Realities.