Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me Mistress.
I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, and I've got with me.
Badass. Here we go, Madam.
You can't say badass and then I say it like that.
That was that was that was backwards.
I. Didn't expect you to say
anything or to introduce yourself, but I wouldn't have
did. It for you?
I don't know what to do. I always feel awkward when I'm
introduced it's. Funny.
All right, So how was your week? You had a good weekend.
It was a good. Weekend.
You had a hot three-way. I mean, we got to bring that up.
I mean, yeah, sure, we can bring it out.
Yeah, she had a nice tits. She looked like a perfect Barbie
doll. She did, didn't she?
She had a perfect little body. So nice, nice.
She's very nice too. It's like her personality was
great, which is what I look for in a in a threesome anyway.
So it's a good personality because I feel like I could
trust that. But yeah.
And she look great. Perfect.
And you you told her that your favorite color is purple.
Well, we do that as like, so that's to separate the two.
I want everything done in purple.
The sheets, when another lady's in the bed, the lights are
purple, the towels are purple. Lay down the bathroom just to
make it feel like, OK, this is separate from our real life.
And then she came in dressed all in purple.
Her, her, she had little hair extension pieces that were
purple, a purple shirt, purple lingerie, purple, purple,
purple. I was like, oh, purple.
That's awesome. Yeah.
And it's just something that we came up with, the color that we
came up, we just kind of made. That up, yeah.
I think that's really cool though, is that you have that
division. Yeah, that's why I wanted was
the division so that, you know, I still feel comfortable doing
it in the bed, but it's still not like it's different.
It's not what we normally sleep with, but it's just purple.
You said your boyfriend even came up with the purple lights.
Oh yeah, he put purple lights in the lamp and I was like.
That's really, that's cool. That's very cool.
All of it's cool. I mean to have like your towels
and your sheets and everything separated.
I thought so too. I was gonna make your little
basket. Yeah, that's awesome.
A little purple vaginal wipes and purple condom box.
I don't know. I think it's very cool and I
think it's, you know, it's it's sweet in a way because you're
just like, hey, you're my guest, you're my special friend and you
know, we're going to get down and dirty.
So here's a nice little, you know, hospitality basket, and
make sure your pussy's clean. No, it's like she feels like
wants to freshen up before we get started or, you know, after.
Yeah, because like after I was like, do you want a towel or do
you want to take a shower? Do you want a towel?
Wipe your pussy, like, because I do that, so I'm sure everybody
else does it. Do you want a towel?
Yeah, and I would like it to be purple so she can wipe a pussy
on the purple towel. Yeah.
I think it's nice. Yeah, and then when she leaves,
you go over there and smell the towel.
Oh my God, we did that with the sheets.
My. God, when we were doing the
sheets, I. Was joking but hey go.
Tell me the sheets off. And then I just got a whiff of
it from taking it off and I was like, Oh my God.
And I ran to my boyfriend. I was like smell this and he was
like what? And then he smells it.
I was like, don't it smell like her?
Look, it does. That's sweet, that's so sweet.
I I just adore that wonderful person that came to visit you
all because she. Really was great.
She's great. I told you.
She's the perfect Unicorn. You know she's personable and
fun and respectful. Respectful.
You know she respects the boundaries of their of your
relationship. She did.
And she would test out the wires a little bit.
When she realized it wasn't OK, she stepped back.
And I really liked that. I noticed that about it.
Yeah. And I like that.
Yeah, that's awesome. That's cool because it's, you
know, it's really a sticky situation.
That's why you got to choose somebody that you trust or can
trust. You know, our friends have
recently had kind of a fallout in having gone into the swinger
community a few years back. Yeah, swinger's different
because you don't want to see your lady with another man.
That's different. I don't think men can handle
that the same as women can. I guess it just depends on the
person, but you know, in the swingers community there is
there's a thing called full swap, meaning they're
comfortable and swapping partners.
And then there's soft swap, which is you would be OK with
him making out with her and vice versa.
So it's kind of like over the clothes foreplay kind of deal.
OK, But you know every couples different and.
What am I considered? Well, you just did full swap
because you. I didn't have a guy.
No, no. But you just did full swap with
the female? Oh yeah.
Well, I like. That, yeah, especially.
When he got like, really? Into it, Yeah.
And you allowed him to do full swap with the female.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because you like it. I do.
Because I don't get to see myself.
And now I got to see what he does to me.
I'm like, yes, I can. I can imagine it better.
Yeah, whenever it's happening to me.
It's interesting how our brains work like that, I notice.
We got a mirror in here, first of all, so she can see what's
happening and so I can see what's happening, yeah.
Hey, yeah, more power to you if you can enjoy that and you enjoy
it together. That's that's what it's all
about. Yeah.
You know, and I always said when I see different, like swinger
couples, when I'll say, you know, I'm just referring to that
because like I said, you did a full swap situation.
But I know that you don't want to have sex with other men.
It's just all about, you know, having sex with other women.
But I noticed with a lot of couples, they, they become
swingers or they get into this type of lifestyle because
they're missing something. But a lot of them don't want to
admit they're missing something in their marriage.
Ah. Well, I started before, so I
think that was good, yeah. Absolutely.
We. Started really early on in our
relationship so we can establish, hey, this is what we
want, this is what I was missing out of my other relationship, so
let's bring it to this relationship.
Yeah, yeah. You had mentioned it before on
the podcast because you had talked about what it was like
having to go through wanting to be with a woman and your
ex-husband just not even wanting any part of it.
Oh, yeah, it was, you know, you would think that a man would
want to. Yeah, but he didn't.
I think, I think you, I don't know.
I didn't know his thought process.
He didn't really express his feelings as well as I thought he
did until I moved out of that marriage.
And then I was like, oh, he did not express himself very well,
so I did not. Know.
Yeah, well, you know, what advice do you have?
For. For other couples when you're
talking about this, this whole swap scenario.
Well, you know you chose your partner for a reason.
You do. You know, you love each other
and you're supposed to pour your full self into them and they're
supposed to pour their full self into you.
So if you're doing that together, you know they love
you. So when they hear these things
about you, you know, I guess it is kind of a sticky situation
because let's say it's a man that wants to be with another
woman and he wants to bring that to his wife.
Like how do you do that gently without it making it sound like,
hey, I don't want to be with you no more?
Because that's not the case. Some people, especially men,
have a craving for versity or verse.
What's the word? To be versatile.
Be versatile, you know, and have, you know, options in
sexual stuff, which is fine. Like I think that's great
because not I can't supply everything, they can't supply
everything. But when we're together, you got
one whole thing, you know what I mean?
So it's really just bringing it up as early as you can.
And if you're already in it this far, they still love you.
What are they going to do, leave you because you mentioned that
you wanted to have sex with somebody?
No, we just have a conversation about it.
Hey, I want to have this conversation.
It's better to have the conversation rather than to
cheat because if you cheat, obviously the relationship's
over. But if you have the
conversation, at least it's out in the open and they know about
it. And I think that's what our
other couple ran into. You know she wanted to play.
Right, my ugly is out there. So, yeah, just like you say,
like I want to have sex with somebody.
You're uglies out there. Not You went and had sex with
somebody and we're going to talk about it.
Yeah, 'cause that's different. That's a whole different thing.
And you know, with how open I am, I still would be hurt and
upset if he had sex with somebody without me knowing,
'cause I mean, that's still cheating.
Yeah, 'cause this is like a team thing.
Yeah. Walk the line.
I don't. Know.
It's just it's convert, it's communication.
You have to have really strong communication and bring it up
very slowly and work with it and don't just jump right in cause
bad things can happen. Hurt feelings and not knowing
anybody. What's your boundaries in it?
What are you OK with?
What are you not OK with? Because I know when I introduced
you to her, you immediately said, oh, is she coming today?
Well, let me let me contact my boyfriend and I'll ask him.
Yeah, if I can touch her, yeah. For the pictures, yes.
But then like halfway through, like the the session that she
had, I actually liked her personality.
And that's why I decided because I I like to keep things very
open before I say let's do things.
I wanted to see which how she was.
Yeah. But you know, if we're going to
take pictures, I want to be, I want to be OK can I touch this
other person? You know, because I would want
him to sit, do the same thing for me.
Yeah, absolutely. Asking first.
In comparison to what you and your boyfriend do when I've
talked to other couples, this is kind of like a stigma,
unfortunately in the the swinger community is when you have a
bisexual husband because it's kind of like, oh, you know, a
lot of people don't want it, you know, but then you have cooks
that are, you know, men who obviously want their wives or
significant partner to have sex with other men.
And so that arises to where they specifically want usually a hung
man or black man. And so the stigma is the husband
never wants to tell people that he's really bisexual.
So a couple of my friends, husband and wife, they went to
this little function and it was like a kind of like a low key
party where there was other couples.
Well, they got into a hot tub and when they got in the hot
tub, the the friend of mine who's very straight, he said to
one of the guys who got in the hot tub next to him with his
wife, he was kind of rubbing up on his leg.
And he says, hey, that's my leg. And he's oh, oh, sorry, sorry.
And that happened a few more times.
And see, you didn't tell me any of this now.
Then later on, when they saw each other again, this time they
want to come to the dungeon and play.
And I said, hey, I separated him from the couple.
I said, why? Why are you all playing with the
crossdresser? He's like, what do you mean he's
not a crossdresser? I'm like, yeah, he is.
And I'm like, he's got great hair.
He's wearing great shoes. He smells like a French whore,
like straight up perfume boom in your face.
I said he's dressed very nice, nails manicured like high dollar
hoe is what he's going for. But he was dressed in a business
attire outfit He had on, you know, dress pants, dress top.
And he's like, you really think he's a crossdresser?
Say he's a fucking crossdresser sub and he's like, wow, OK then.
So he's like, well, I'll tell my wife because she likes to
dominate. So he went in and told her, kind
of whispered it to her at some point, and his wife started
dominating the guy and had him put on her panties.
And he's like, he left him breathless.
Like, how did you know? Yeah, she's like, Mia told me.
It's always great when somebody can see through you.
Yeah, where you're like, Oh my God, I get something that yeah,
I thought I never could talk about.
Exactly. Exactly.
And in his situation, I knew that he wanted to be a cup
because it was later that my friend said, yeah, he was the
one playing with, trying to play with me in the hot tub, trying
to touch my Dick. And I told him that was me.
He needs to stop. Yeah, crossing boundaries there.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I think subconsciously he wanted to see his wife with that
other husband, right. But I think when he was touching
the husband or watching his wife have sex with this man, that
he's envisioning himself getting fucked.
Yeah. And that's what I think a lot of
people don't realize is why do you see, in your situation, you
just said, and you've said this before, I like to watch my
boyfriend fuck another woman. Why?
Because you envision yourself as being her.
Yeah, Yeah. So you can imagine what these
other husbands, whether they're cook or not or like a cook in
the closet, they love to watch their wife get fucked because
they want to be their wife getting fucked, you know?
And a lot of men don't want to really admit to that.
It's really hard for them to admit that, but it is what it
is. I guess sometimes I want to be
my boyfriend, want to see what it feels like in there.
Yeah. So maybe I feel the same way
some ways. Yeah.
But Charles, I think, is the one that told me that I might be a
cup queen. So I was like, OK, that makes
sense, you know? So I was like, I'll run with it.
OK. All right.
You don't know, well, you know, again, the whole concept of cook
and cock holdery and all that, you know, a lot of people have
their own vision of what they want it to be, but ultimately
it's a woman who has sex with other people and the husband's
OK with it. And the husband actually a lot
of time does clean up after sex and the husband's more
submissive, etcetera, etcetera. Like when we met little Tiny Tim
with the tiny Peeny. I don't remember Tiny Tim.
Him and his wife that came in. Oh yeah, Tiny Tim.
Yeah, OK. Yeah, exactly.
And you know, that was the same situation.
He's like, I'm happy if she's going out and having sex and
blah blah blah blah. He.
Just wants to hear about. It he wants to he.
Wants to be the guy though. He wants to have a bigger Dick,
so he wants to envision having sex with her.
Yeah, and she wants him to have a bigger Dick.
And my thing of it is, hey, commit to doing a surgery, like
make something happen. Yeah, I mean, he did have a
small Dick. He did, but you know, there's
ways around. That and then some people are
too fortunate, like why? Why are you?
And they usually have like freaking bad freaking
personalities. When they got too big of a Dick.
I was like got you just shared because you don't deserve all
that. No kidding.
God, right now I have this one fucking douche bag.
He contacts me about his wife, we talk about his wife, blah,
blah, blah. But ultimately, you know, he
wants this extreme bondage and everything else.
He's such a fucking douche because it's all about him.
He's like his wife can't satisfy him.
His wife doesn't know how to choke him out and blah, blah,
blah. And he's got this massive
fucking Dick. And then he's like, oh, it's not
that big. I'm like, shut the fuck up.
You know it's a good. Have I met this person?
You haven't met him and you know.
I thought Tiny Tim was acting though, but she she couldn't
dominate him. Yeah, yeah, he wouldn't play
into it. Yeah, he wasn't allowing like,
OK, well, we got to start somewhere.
Yeah. Even if we start from the
bottom, we have to start somewhere.
You can't jump in. Yeah, unbelievable.
So you know, we're going to end it here.
But I will say that men, they need to open up.
They need to be honest with themselves.
And honest with their favorite person in the whole world,
right? That's it.
You know why be with somebody you're not completely happy
with? Yeah.
Then what is marriage? Yeah.
What is marriage, exactly? Yeah.
You'll see that we're going to be talking to someone sometime
this week or next. And he has a fetish for a
certain type of shoe, and he likes to cross dress.
And I met him years ago when he was in college.
And I told him then I'm like, you're gay, you're gay, you're
gay, you know, And he finally, it finally resignated with him.
He's like, after he left, he had that session.
He's going to talk about it. I'm sure he'll tell us all
about, you know, his feelings on it.
But he went and got married and I'm like, why are you married to
a woman? Yes.
Oh well. You can get married to a guy.
Well, he needs to be with a man to be happy, but he's with a
woman and he's not happy, you know, because.
He needs both. I don't know, but something we
can ask them, we'll figure it out.
We'll do an interview with them. Yes.
All right, so until then, Liv, this has been the latest episode
of. Call me Mistress.