1 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,680 Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me a Mistress. 2 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,560 I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, and today I have with me a 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,400 special guest Cauldron. Hi. 4 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,440 How are you? Oh, I'm ecstatic to be here 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,840 today. I was talking about the the 6 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,720 little dirty things that we do in the dark. 7 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:37,320 Oh my God. Bring them into the light like 8 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:43,440 messengers. I may have had a couple extra 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,240 coffees this morning. Oh, that's OK. 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,880 That, trust me, I had a good 40 oz. 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,280 Yeah, you got to have it. Yes. 12 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,560 You know, so, so Caldron, you are like me, you're kind of in 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,680 the South somewhat. You're there in Tennessee and, 14 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,680 you know, there's quite a bit of Kingsters in our, you know, 15 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,600 communities, but when did you actually start your journey and 16 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,560 all of this? Well, I'm 48 and I was 18 when I 17 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,840 officially entered into a club for the first time. 18 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,640 Was dating a girl who had a her family owned a nudist colony 19 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:37,120 down in Florida and yeah, she was a few years older than me. 20 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:42,240 She was 22, so 4 years older, and she introduced me to all of 21 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,160 this wonderful craziness and well, really she didn't. 22 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,040 She didn't introduce me to it. She introduced me to the world 23 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:56,920 and she allowed me a place to express myself and brought that 24 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,200 side out. She was very nurturing lover. 25 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:09,759 Did she take your cherry? No, I was 13 when that happened, 26 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,800 apparently clawing, biting, growling the whole time. 27 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:22,200 And yeah, I'm very primal and it just comes natural. 28 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,760 And I, I never even realized it until I met her. 29 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,080 And she, she's like, you were so animalistic. 30 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:36,200 And that explained why every person I'd ever been with was 31 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,960 nobody, nobody has ever fucked me like you fucked me. 32 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,000 And I'm like, what does that mean? 33 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,960 And they're like, I don't know, I can't explain it, but it's a 34 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,080 good thing. And I'm like OK, cool, as long 35 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,360 as it's a good. Thing right That's that's hot. 36 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,400 Yeah, it was kind of an ego boost. 37 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:04,440 I felt good about it, can't lie. But from there, it just, it just 38 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,040 took off. She mentored me for a few years 39 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:15,160 and we switched. And that was kind of the 40 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,720 downfall of that relationship. I especially was not mature 41 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,440 enough and I didn't, I didn't have an example of what a 42 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:31,880 healthy relationship look like. So it was it was going to fail 43 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,000 for two reasons. One, what I just said about 44 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,040 maturity and no examples of healthy relationships. 45 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:47,440 And two, I my pinky is is the bone that holds the the subside 46 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,640 in me. Yeah, I'm with you. 47 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,880 Doctors and dentists, though, I absolutely hate dentists. 48 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,320 Those are the only people that I will really submit to and logic 49 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,200 and I will submit to logic. But other than that, yeah, no, 50 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,720 I'm, I'm very dominant in both professional and personal life 51 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,440 and dominant and not domineering. 52 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,680 But at the time, you know, she needed both things. 53 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,880 I only needed one aspect of of the slash. 54 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,440 And so it didn't really work out. 55 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:29,040 I would I'll give anything to find her today, but I've I've 56 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,280 looked for 20 years and been able unable to locate her. 57 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:36,760 But yeah, it's that's how I got started. 58 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:40,640 Wow, I'm good at tracking people. 59 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,160 I might have to help you in that journey. 60 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Oh, that'll be awesome. How cool is that? 61 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:56,080 I it was an absolute amazing situation, like the best case 62 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:02,160 scenario really, even though you know it, it didn't end great. 63 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,520 I think we were both at the end of it. 64 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,760 We were both thankful for our time with each other. 65 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:19,920 But you know, there was good and bad in with every breakup, but 66 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:29,200 just the the amount of teaching that from her and her family 67 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:36,600 that was there and the different aspects, the introductions to 68 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,280 other people that led me into doing some adult filming, 69 00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:46,680 private adult filming and professional topping and you 70 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:54,720 know, stuff like that in Atlanta was the education. 71 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:01,400 I was definitely not emotionally or mentally mature enough for it 72 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:05,440 at the time. And of course, you know, I 73 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:12,800 thought I was, I wasn't, but I still wouldn't change it because 74 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,680 I was, I was very logical and safe. 75 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:22,000 And that's, that's the difference between me and 76 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,120 somebody else that could have gone through the exact same 77 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:29,160 thing, but not had that logical and safe side to them. 78 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,680 I think it would have been devastating, would have been 79 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:38,480 absolutely traumatic. And I'd, I'd probably be curled 80 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,480 up in a ball in an institution right now. 81 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,600 Well, I mean, it was, it was diving straight into the deep 82 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:53,320 end like Mariana Trench, kind of depths of, of, of education. 83 00:06:53,480 --> 00:07:00,080 And, you know, I got a doctorate in kink in a two year period. 84 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Yeah. Pretty much if there was a thing 85 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:11,640 that could be done, I, I experienced it and yeah, it's, 86 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,920 it's good times. It it was good times. 87 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,760 And just, I mean, obviously thinking back on it, I do think 88 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,920 of it very passionately and, and very fondly. 89 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,960 Yeah. So that's that's been a nutshell 90 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,520 in my start. I like that. 91 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,560 Met people with with eyeball licking fetishes and coat hanger 92 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,000 fetishes. Yeah, I've had that. 93 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:46,320 Wow, just about every single strange, you know, atypical 94 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:53,040 fetish other than just feet and ass and you know all of that. 95 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,000 It's which I'm not putting those down. 96 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Don't you know, I very much have an ass fetish, But feet, No, no, 97 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,280 I can't do. Feet's a hard limit for me. 98 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:12,280 But yeah, it's, it's it's so beautiful, no matter how weird 99 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,960 it is, as long as it doesn't involve children or animals and 100 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:23,960 everybody consents and it's, you know, semi sane and safe. 101 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,680 But why do what you want? Why? 102 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,240 I mean, I've had people beg me to do amputations and things 103 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,400 like that. Yeah. 104 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:40,919 One guy wanted his his leg cut off and no, absolutely not not 105 00:08:40,919 --> 00:08:44,320 going to do that. That's that's a felony not 106 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,560 happening. What could maybe just like my 107 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:49,400 pinky toe. Can you at least just do that? 108 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:55,320 You know, I'll pay you $5000 and I'm like, no, can't do that. 109 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,440 I mean, I, I was, I was probably 2324 I. 110 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,680 Considered. It, yeah, I mean, I, I, I 111 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:07,960 considered it. I was going to say right now 112 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,560 though, you might consider it right. 113 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,280 I think I would. You know. 114 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,400 I mean, it's not going to kill him. 115 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,040 I would consider it, but I definitely would not do it 116 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:26,680 because again, that whole felony thing and it being sane, like I 117 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:29,800 worked in mental health, surprise, surprise, for 20 118 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,960 years. We both did. 119 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:32,400 We have. Similar. 120 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Backgrounds with this, it's so looking at the psychology of the 121 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,560 people that I play with in my personal life that I topped in 122 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:51,960 in my former professional life. It's, it's both a blessing and a 123 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,200 curse because you recognize something in somebody and go, 124 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:01,400 oh, that's borderline psychosis or, or the other, but that's 125 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,840 borderline personality disorder or bipolar disorder. 126 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,440 Somebody's in a manic phase and they're, you know, self 127 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,360 destructing and they don't realize it. 128 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,680 Or, you know, they're histrionic Or the the dark Trinity. 129 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,480 Yeah, you've got somebody trying to gaslight, gaslight you that's 130 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:23,840 going to flip things around on you. 131 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,400 And I don't know if you've ever experienced the Dark Triad or 132 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,360 the Dark Trinity. I have not. 133 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:37,520 But having somebody that when Machiavellian personality 134 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:42,520 disorder, so everything absolutely, positively 135 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,800 everything they do in their life is to benefit them and there's 136 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:54,960 no level of extremes that they will not go to to make sure that 137 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,960 they are meeting their needs and the amount of manipulation and 138 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:08,880 lying, mix that with, you know, 100% pure narcissism and. 0 139 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Compassion. 0 compassion, 0 empathy, and then have them come 140 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:21,400 to you claiming to be one thing with 100% intent to flip the 141 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,920 script on you and have you tied up. 142 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:33,840 Oh yeah, yeah. But yeah, and it's, Oh yeah, 143 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,960 luckily I was able to recognize that the one time that I saw 144 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:43,120 somebody, which is funny because I saw that as a professional 145 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,920 Dom, but I never once ran across somebody like that actually 146 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,600 working in the side field. Yes, right. 147 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,040 They're that good. They could. 148 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,360 Have. Yeah, yeah. 149 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,400 It's amazing. They can have they can evade and 150 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:03,720 they can skirt the law and yeah, it's it's it's so much more 151 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,080 dangerous than the and I know I'm way off topic here from. 152 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:16,160 Actually, no, no, but it's. It's so sociopathy and 153 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,560 psychopathy in relation to like serial killers, which by the 154 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:25,920 way, there's a whole lot of people who have sociopathy who 155 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:33,080 are sociopaths, who don't experience empathy, who are high 156 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,120 level, high functioning members of society. 157 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,680 And people don't realize that. I know you do, but most people 158 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:46,680 don't. But to add that Machiavellian 159 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:54,960 aspect to it where since everything that they do is to 160 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:00,920 benefit them and they have no empathy, but that that 161 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,800 Machiavellian aspect pulls them within the lines of the law. 162 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,840 So they really are experts at skirting the law. 163 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:18,160 In fact, it's my understanding that a law enforcement or a law, 164 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:25,960 a lawyer, those two fields going in the legal field of some 165 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,640 aspect, can often draw those people with those disorders into 166 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,200 it. I believe it. 167 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,520 I believe it. Anyway. 168 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:42,280 No, no, it's, it's such a honestly, it's, it's refreshing 169 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:47,080 because I love the psychological aspects of BDSM. 170 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,240 And then to talk about it last night, I was kind of geared in 171 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,480 that that mood. And there is an episode it it's 172 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:03,000 with Andrew McCarthy on SVU Law and Order and it's first season 173 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:09,880 episode 22. And he is, I think he's, I think 174 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,320 he's either, no, I don't think he's an attorney in this one. 175 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,800 I think he's like a stockbroker or something to that effect. 176 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,840 But he's obviously well to do, and he's married to a female 177 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,360 veterinarian and they live in New York. 178 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,960 And he ends up meeting a woman in Romania, brings her back to 179 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,000 the States. She's a young girl who was going 180 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,720 to go to NYU. And instead of getting her into 181 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,240 college, he kept her as a nanny and a prisoner in his home. 182 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:47,080 And yeah, And it is a twisted, twisted, yeah episode, but it's 183 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:54,520 a great episode because there's a part where Chris, what's his 184 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,040 name? Chris Leone Maloney. 185 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,440 Chris Maloney. Yeah. 186 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:03,040 And Mariska Haggerty, they open up a closet. 187 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,960 And I think the closet had like a a pocket door. 188 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,760 And they open it up and then they see this press board closet 189 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,360 with a padlock on it and they open it up and it's got like a 190 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:19,040 head cage and shackles. And immediately my husband and I 191 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:24,480 are like, oh, that's, that's so sexy, right? 192 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,480 And they couldn't find her, but they end up finding her. 193 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:35,440 And he had done an actual like a makeshift, what do you call it? 194 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,640 Almost like a coffin, a press board coffin under his bed. 195 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,800 And he disguised it behind his foot board. 196 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,160 It was twisted. It was so twisted. 197 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,920 It was great. It was a great episode. 198 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,440 Season 1, Episode 22. Yes. 199 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,800 OK, I wrote it down. I'm going to check that out. 200 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,480 I don't. You got. 201 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,360 Check it out. I haven't watched Law and Order 202 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,000 in forever and I've never seen SVU. 203 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,040 OK. Yeah. 204 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,680 So I'll, I will check that out. But that reminds me, do you 205 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,920 remember back in the 90s that he may be too young? 206 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,120 We're the same age, you realize this. 207 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,840 No, I didn't know that. OK, well, yeah, I'm going to be 208 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,800 49 in a few days. Oh, OK, I'll be 49 in March. 209 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:25,000 Oh, Boxing Helena, have you ever seen that? 210 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,280 No. OK, so it's kind of like a 211 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,840 skinny Max flick from from the mid to late 90s. 212 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,720 OK, I highly recommend checking it out. 213 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:41,240 A woman gets hit by a car in front of this guy's house and he 214 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,640 takes her in. And I believe he's he's, he may 215 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,600 have been a physician, I don't recall what his career was, but 216 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,840 he ends up amputating limbs and nursing her back to health as he 217 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,640 does this because he's just crazy in love with her. 218 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,840 Wow. We're being crazy and but yeah, 219 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,520 it's it's a, it's a skin of Max Flicks. 220 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,119 So there's lots of Eroticism in it. 221 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,240 And of course they try to do the big surprise ending and all 222 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:20,880 that, but it's, yeah, it's wild. That's awesome. 223 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,800 And it's it's not a gore fest either. 224 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,280 It's not one who's the the those fun bloody TNA's, which I'm a 225 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,800 blood fetishist too, so I kind of enjoy those. 226 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,200 But yeah. No shame. 227 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:42,360 No shame, Yeah. Makita, which yes, I know that's 228 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:47,480 a tool. No, was the the person's name 229 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,640 who introduced me. I actually met her in an 230 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:56,880 underground rave in Atlanta and it was a vampire, you know, in 231 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:02,120 the 90s you got all the, the big good vampire things coming out. 232 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,520 And that was the scene that I met her in. 233 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:11,080 And it was because I was such a blood fetishist. 234 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:16,840 I had a thing for vamps and, you know, that kind of young teenage 235 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,920 goth thing. So yeah, that. 236 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,040 That's awesome. And the plot thickens. 237 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,920 That's awesome. Thick as blood. 238 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,520 Oh man. That's very cool. 239 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,440 Well, you know, I haven't been to Atlanta. 240 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,640 I haven't been to the dungeons or anything there, and I really 241 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,360 need to get up and just try it, go to a couple dungeon parties 242 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:51,640 and experience it. I just, you know, time consumes 243 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,440 me here with things. But I think the more interesting 244 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,000 thing that I ever did was two years ago my husband and I went 245 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,560 to Amsterdam and we, yeah, it was so fun. 246 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:08,160 But here we were next to a mosque and it was an old Chinese 247 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,360 restaurant they converted into a dungeon slash bath house. 248 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,560 Oh cool. It was so cool. 249 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,520 They still had a fucking Chinese buffet though. 250 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:23,000 They called. I'm like, honey, I can beat you. 251 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,880 And then we can go and eat some, eat some dim sum or something, 252 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,400 you know? Oh God, that's like diamonds and 253 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,280 lace in Chattanooga. I I think it's still there. 254 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,240 They have probably one of the best lunch buffets I've ever 255 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,960 eaten at. In the strip club. 256 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,760 That's awesome. Yep. 257 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,520 I mean, it's it's phenomenal. Or it was. 258 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,360 Now I haven't been there in 25 years, but awesome. 259 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Yeah. Good times. 260 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:58,680 The dungeons in Atlanta Course 1763 they sold and then a few 261 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,720 years later they closed. Somebody bought the building 262 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,080 that they were in and there was a a big thing there with their 263 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,880 contract and the new owners didn't want to renew it. 264 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,840 So unfortunately they closed. But I believe there's been since 265 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,520 then, there's been like 3 more pop up within a 2 hour or hour 266 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,200 driving radius of it of the greater Atlanta area. 267 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,120 And I've not been to any of those yet. 268 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:33,440 I've been invited to two out of the three and I just, I haven't 269 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,520 had the opportunity to go down there yet. 270 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:44,920 Unfortunately due to a an injury I've had to limit what I do, but 271 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,640 I will get down there eventually. 272 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,160 Well, good, might have to meet you there. 273 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,600 Yeah, yeah. Wouldn't that be fun it? 274 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,840 Would. We'll explore. 275 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:01,080 I love Co topping, by the way, drawing off of the energy of of, 276 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:05,000 yeah, there was one time I built this. 277 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,200 It's like an ladder, a double ladder, A-frame. 278 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,440 I'm a woodworker. I built that obviously out of 279 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,400 wood and I did it just for performances, stage 280 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:24,320 performances. And we would have so one to two 281 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:30,000 people on each side of the ladder and then on the ends of 282 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,760 on each end of the ladder too, we'd have one person. 283 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,720 So we could have six people on the thing and then, you know, 284 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:47,680 456 tops just rotating around and doing all the warm ups as we 285 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,880 rotate around and then going into each of our favorite toys 286 00:21:52,880 --> 00:22:00,160 and Oh my God, the energy flow. I think we had five people, 5 287 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:06,560 bottoms and six or 8 tops switching in and out. 288 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:13,240 It lasted for 3-4 hours. About. 3 1/2, Four hours. 289 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,560 Yeah. I mean, with that many people 290 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,840 being able to switch out and have more tops and you do 291 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,960 bottoms. I mean, it was I was so 292 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,720 exhausted and it was more so just mentally and emotionally 293 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,000 than physically in such a positive way. 294 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:41,440 But Oh my God, the drop from that was, duh, one of the one of 295 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,920 the worst. It went from being one of the 296 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,760 best experiences to one of the worst experiences because of the 297 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,280 drop. But I would do it again in a 298 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,040 heartbeat. I'm bad. 299 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,800 Now I know what to expect. Yeah. 300 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,320 Interesting. That's interesting. 301 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,720 I think that's something a lot of people really don't 302 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,400 understand what we go through as doms and having that, that rush 303 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:08,200 and then just pulling. Bless you. 304 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,680 Thank you. And I'm going to patriot spirits 305 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:20,520 of something. Sorry, that's another kink. 306 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,360 I grew up a good old southern backs boy down in northwest 307 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:32,520 Georgia. Now you want to be like a 308 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,960 Catholic priest and spank your nuns. 309 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:42,760 Yes, yes and yes. It's awesome. 310 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:47,240 Oh, yeah. So the people, people really 311 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,280 don't understand that. And you know, at one point I 312 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:55,760 was, I, I, I, well, I always meant to get shirts made that 313 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,960 say tops need aftercare too or, you know, whatever. 314 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,520 But people, people really don't. That's one thing that I'm I'm 315 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,360 very, in fact, that's the first thing when I'm negotiating the 316 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:14,000 scene with somebody. It's first, middle and last like 317 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,760 I want, I want that person know that I'm one of the good ones. 318 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,640 It is a power exchange. It is a negotiated thing. 319 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,760 And which means that I become invested emotionally into that 320 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:38,320 scene, whether it's 5 minutes or five years and I will need 321 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,320 aftercare. I'm going to need some snuggles 322 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,600 afterwards. Like I'm a snuggle slut. 323 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:52,480 I'm I'm a big old bear. I can be mighty growly and and 324 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,480 very mean and hateful. The when the when I flip that 325 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:03,640 switch between this fun podcast guy and me and a scene is two 326 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,280 different people. I have Hazel eyes, which means 327 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,840 my eyes typically will change colors with my mood. 328 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,480 And in a scene they turn very dark brown, almost black. 329 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,760 And yeah, that's why I'm having the most fun. 330 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:26,640 Yeah, people will tell me they're like, oh, you were so, 331 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,640 so, so, so sweet and so kind. And I'm like, yeah, we haven't 332 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,200 played in the dungeon yet, have we? 333 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,480 Yeah, at that point you're like, don't they always tell you to 334 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,520 watch out for the quiet ones? Well, they need to tell you to 335 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,000 watch out for the sweet ones too. 336 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,320 Exactly. And the sweet ones like you are 337 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,880 always the ones that I get along with. 338 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,560 And that's because you are the ones like you. 339 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,880 Oh, here's a here's a pro tip and looking for a pro. 340 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:05,880 So if if you are a listener of Mistress Mia on a regular basis 341 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,840 or if this is your first time here, please know that when 342 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,360 you're in search of a professional, you want somebody 343 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,480 who interacts with you as a person first and foremost, 344 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,600 because that is what you are when it all comes down to it. 345 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,160 And the sweet ones that do not immediately try to force their 346 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,560 dominance on you during a negotiation process or an 347 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,240 introduction, those are the ones that are in it only for 348 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:42,520 themselves and are abusive. Now, if you want to be abused, 349 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,000 then you can still be abused ethically. 350 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,200 And I am absolutely 100% certain that Mistress Mia would be 351 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,160 phenomenal at abusing you in all the most delicious ways 352 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,440 possible. But no, I mean it. 353 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,160 No, dude, are you doing a commercial for me? 354 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,600 Completely accidentally, but I mean every word of it. 355 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,400 Thank you. I mean, you, you are just, 356 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,520 you're a great example of that. And I'm kind of passionate about 357 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,800 that, especially right now because I don't go to my local 358 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,840 dungeon because of the situation with, with a, a a little 22 year 359 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,440 old who is who's trying to run the place. 360 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,880 And that sweet. Yeah, she's, she's got that 361 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,680 pretty privilege and that young and that youth privilege. 362 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:41,880 And the submissive male that owns the place who's, I don't 363 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,760 know, and his late been to late 50s now. 364 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:51,600 And, and in our area it's, it's hard to be a sub male. 365 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,160 It's, it's, it's very difficult to be a submissive male. 366 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:05,120 And he has a history of allowing these young ones to kind of take 367 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:11,680 over, take charge of the play area and do whatever they want 368 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,520 and treat people however they want. 369 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:24,960 And you know, it's not healthy for anybody there and it, it 370 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,080 cause costs him business in doing that. 371 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,920 But it's just so important to, to watch out for. 372 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,640 I'm, I'm very passionate. I like. 373 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,840 So I, I did a podcast, Cauldron's Crypt, a BDSM1O1 374 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,000 podcast, wearing a hat and a shirt from it today. 375 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:54,920 I did that for eight years, and the reason that it started was 376 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,800 because I started hearing all of these horror stories post 50 377 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:07,640 Shades. So in 2016, yeah, 2016, I got to 378 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,800 do something. Yeah, it's been almost 10 years. 379 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,600 I don't know anything really about this whole podcasting 380 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,640 thing. I tried to start one back in 381 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:21,120 like 2005, 2006. At the time you had to hand code 382 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:26,440 your RSS feed and, and do all this stuff, which was a little 383 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,600 bit more advanced than I had time to learn at the, you know, 384 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,320 And so I'm like, well, I'm going to check this out. 385 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,360 I'm going to, I'm going to see what this is about. 386 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,400 And the whole reason that I started it was to protect 387 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,680 people. And you know, I thought, well, 388 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:48,760 it's not paying me anything. If I can just save one person 389 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,200 from a, from an abusive situation or prevent one person 390 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:59,440 from getting into an abusive situation, then I've, I've it's 391 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,640 all worth it. And then damn, if the emails 392 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:10,720 didn't start coming in. And then as it just blew up and 393 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,280 become a bigger and bigger thing, and I'm not talking about 394 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,360 my podcast, I'm talking about BDSM in general post 50 Shades, 395 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,200 which meant that my podcast started blowing up. 396 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,880 And you know, I was getting hundreds of messages on Fetlife 397 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,480 and through emails a day asking questions. 398 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:39,240 And it's just, you know, people need to be more careful than 399 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,080 what they are and understand that frenzy is a real thing. 400 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,680 And I don't care if it's your first time hearing about it or 401 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,080 you're 100 years old and you've been doing it since you were 402 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,920 born. Frenzy can hit anyone at any 403 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,440 time without notice. It does not ask permission. 404 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:06,160 And it can completely devastate your life and your experience 405 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,200 within the scene and in your personal life. 406 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,200 I've seen it destroy people because they give into it 407 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,880 because at first it's like a manic episode. 408 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,080 Well, it is a form of of mania. It is a form of a manic episode. 409 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Only you don't have to be bipolar to experience it. 410 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,800 And you just throw caution to the wind and you go do all the 411 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,320 things. And then there's shit tons of 412 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,520 regrets at best and shit tons of abuse at worst. 413 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,400 So I just caution people about that frenzy. 414 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,480 Got to watch out for that there frenzy. 415 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,480 Yeah, You know, it's a sad thing. 416 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:53,360 I, I'm like you, you know, my listener consists of my 417 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:59,320 listening bases, you know, now 85% men and I know obviously the 418 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,440 majority is going to be submissive men. 419 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,840 And it's so difficult for them to find a good female Dom who 420 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,520 isn't taking them for a ride either financially or otherwise. 421 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,880 But recently it's like, I had this, this cute little guy 422 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,000 reached out to me and, you know, he's just under 30 and he's, you 423 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,520 know, in a different country. And he's like, you know, I can 424 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,480 come over with a work visa and I can be your slave. 425 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,080 And I'm like, it's, it happens all the time. 426 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,120 And I'm like, listen, that's great. 427 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,160 You know, I, I already have, you know, my slave GIMP and I've got 428 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,080 my slave Sissy. And it's great. 429 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,200 And this is what I do professionally. 430 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:43,640 However, you really need to look at the person, talk to the 431 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:49,600 person and have a friendship and a relationship first before you 432 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,360 even delve into the aspects of ADS dynamic. 433 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,880 And that's what people miss all the time. 434 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,320 Oh man, that. So when I was, I was in the 435 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,920 shower and I was thinking about talking to you and looking 436 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,640 forward to it and what were we going to talk about? 437 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:12,240 And that was one of the things that came to mind was the the 438 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,400 bedroom Kingster, because of 50 Shades, is so incredibly 439 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,760 confused stepping into BDSM. Yeah. 440 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:28,040 There is a huge difference in that calm. 441 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:35,000 What is it a calm complex or compound anyway? 442 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:45,200 The the whole DS part with discipline and submission and 443 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:52,520 and dominance or discipline and sadomasochism and dominance and 444 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:58,040 submission and it really should be BDSMS. 445 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,800 Or whatever. You know, because, because 446 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:10,199 that's what I'm sure you run into this a lot just like I 447 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,920 have. But people who want the slap and 448 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,960 tickle and I do not say that disrespectfully to anyone 449 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,080 because if that's your thing, get your thing on. 450 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:30,520 Like I am all for that. But so many couples that I'm AI 451 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,159 wear a lot of hats. I'm also a certified life coach 452 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:40,000 and relationship coach and which I got that certification after I 453 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,400 started the podcast just to be able to better help these people 454 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,719 in and finding out legally what I was allowed to do. 455 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,679 So that was while I worked in mental health for all those 456 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:57,480 years, you know, I knew the laws on what I was allowed to do 457 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,600 there. But in having people come to me 458 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,240 for other things, you know, I, I and that really helped. 459 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:12,160 So people like, yeah, I just, I want to submit to my husband or 460 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,200 I want to submit to my wife, whatever. 461 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:22,440 And I'm like, but, but do you? But do you really like. 462 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,960 Yeah, I want the, I want the whole thing. 463 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:30,120 I want it all the time, 24/7. But do you really? 464 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:36,040 Have you tried it just for an afternoon or a day or a week? 465 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,800 No, no, no, no. I just know what? 466 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,080 And you know, they need to learn how to do this. 467 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,920 Like OK, what about you? Well, I just need to do what I'm 468 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,480 told. Oh no, no, you have to learn how 469 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,440 to be a submissive. You just like you have to learn 470 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:58,000 how to be a dominant and you also have to test the waters 1st 471 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:05,320 and not just dive in because it it's not going to go well. 472 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,920 Like 9 out of 10 times when you dive in it's not going to go 473 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,600 well. You got to do the research and 474 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,800 get educated and yes, it's fun, but it's also work and people 475 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,160 don't understand how much work DS is. 476 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:32,080 Very true. Oh my God, especially when 477 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:39,200 you're in a long term 24/7. You know my last sub it was 7 478 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:46,480 seven years I believe of 24/7 365. 479 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:52,040 It did not stop when we slept. In fact, sometimes there was 480 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,760 alarms in the middle of the night that had to be woken up to 481 00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:02,120 or to complete tasks just because she needed a reminder of 482 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,240 who was in charge. Because she may have back talked 483 00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:09,320 and it may have been disciplined or which sounds real sexy to 484 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,400 some people. And it is until you know you, 485 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,760 you have to. Get up on. 486 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:21,440 On every odd hour and write for 15 minutes in a kneeling 487 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:30,840 position and you have to be at work at 6:00 AM and work a 12 or 488 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:38,960 16 hour shift you know it's. Yeah. 489 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,400 Oh, memories. Yeah, it gets real, real quick, 490 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,400 doesn't it? Yeah. 491 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,160 And and that being negotiated too, you know, is, is that an 492 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,760 acceptable form of punishment? Just because you're the Dome, it 493 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,760 doesn't mean you can just punish any way you want. 494 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,760 And it seems like the the Insta domes, one of their favorite 495 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:17,480 ways to to punish is contact deprivation or isolation or 496 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:26,200 withholding communication, hugs, cuddles, whatever. 497 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:32,720 And that's abuse. Like unless, unless that person 498 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:36,120 has specifically said that is something that they need in 499 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,480 their life and you found out why it's something that they need in 500 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,960 their life. Which is where people often miss 501 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,800 out to in getting to know their partner. 502 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,200 Sitting down with the BDSM checklist, which you can find a 503 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,560 colder script.com/survey. Sorry, it's like a 7 or 8 page 504 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,920 survey that has all these different things and each person 505 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:06,800 can fill them out and see what where they line up and they can 506 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,280 talk about it and they can research the things that they 507 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,520 don't know together. And it's just a learning 508 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,280 experience together. And I about guarantee you that 509 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,320 you're going to stop going through it before you get 510 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,320 halfway done to have sex. Like you're going to you're 511 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,560 going to quit going through it because you're going to be so 512 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,600 hot talking about this stuff that you're not going to be able 513 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,720 to keep your hands off each other. 514 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:36,800 But in talking about it, finding out why you need this or, or you 515 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:41,760 want this, that's really the intimate part, getting to know 516 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,480 each other. I've had couples that were in 517 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,520 their 60s and they've been together since they were 518 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,320 teenagers be like, yeah, we want to try this stuff, help us out. 519 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,200 I'm like, OK. And they will come back and tell 520 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:03,840 me after I tell them what I've just said here, that in three 521 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,640 days of going through these surveys together, took them 522 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,000 three days because they get hot. They had stopped. 523 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,960 They had to have sex. I'm like, oh, you're in your mid 524 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,560 60s. Congratulations. 525 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,080 He's like, Yep, didn't even need any Viagra. 526 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:23,760 I've done my job helping people get happy, but they, they come 527 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,280 to me, both of them in tears because they had learned so much 528 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,080 about each other that they never knew in doing this. 529 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,640 It's so intimate and it helps you if you're somebody who's 530 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:45,240 terrified of intimacy, it will really help ease you into that 531 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:52,040 and can either send you into a panic attack or it can help you 532 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,400 to become free of your fear of intimacy. 533 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,760 It's just, it's, it's so beautiful, like AI love it on 534 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,720 that deeper level. And for those that are like, 535 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:06,960 Nah, man, that's not me. That's not what I'm about. 536 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,480 I just want the, the I want to pull some hair. 537 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,520 I want to buy some necks, smack some asses. 538 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,480 I love seeing them butt cheeks get red. 539 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,520 I do too. I love that. 540 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:26,960 That's fucking awesome. Like that's yes, but it can also 541 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,560 be a much deeper thing. If that's what people want and 542 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:36,520 it's your BDSM, you make it what fits your needs and find 543 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,520 somebody else that shares in those needs. 544 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,160 Anyway, sorry I get preachy. No, you're OK. 545 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:54,560 And the Lord said, be you spanked in my name. 546 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,160 Goodness gracious. Yeah, I'll post that link as 547 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:06,160 well on this episode so people can can catch it up and try it 548 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,480 out. It's so true. 549 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,520 Yeah, it's, it's. Have you filled one out? 550 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,680 I mean, I'm sure you've you have your own version of it. 551 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,600 I do. I have, you know, I, I'm like 552 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,440 you. I think I just know myself so 553 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,200 well after, you know, 30 years of this, you know. 554 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:31,120 I like I like to do the what is it the bdsm.org test or 555 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,160 bdsmtest.org? I think it is. 556 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:42,280 I like to do that when I was highly, highly active, every 557 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,240 time the doors of the dungeon of a dungeon within a 2 hour 558 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:51,040 driving radius of me was open, I was there. 559 00:42:52,440 --> 00:43:00,160 I would top 12 people a night service topping and I would go 560 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:06,400 through that, that BSM test about every six months to see 561 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:12,200 where see if I changed anything. And granted, it's, it's not 100% 562 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,520 accurate. Definitely won't disagree 563 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,720 because there are people out there that I've met that hate 564 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:19,200 that thing. Like, why would you waste your 565 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,280 time doing that? And it's not a waste of time. 566 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,760 You just have to take it with a grain of salt. 567 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:29,160 But then and then going through my own checklist every six 568 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,440 months to a year and I still do that even though I'm not as 569 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,320 active. Like I do it at least I'd say 570 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,800 every year and a half just to see, because the more that I 571 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,240 play, the more that I talk to people and get different 572 00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:50,000 perspectives, the the more I may change. 573 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,840 And so I want to keep up with that. 574 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,000 And I can be highly resistant to change. 575 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,000 And so knowing that about myself, I kind of, I kind of 576 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,240 have a way of mind fucking myself into not being so 577 00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:17,000 resistant to change and, and redoing those tests is just one 578 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,000 way that I can do that. So, and, and I'm not trying to 579 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,920 plug myself. I don't do my, I haven't done my 580 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,280 podcast in a couple of years now, but I do want to say that 581 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:32,280 if anybody wants does that, the, the survey on there will ask for 582 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,360 your e-mail address. You do not get put into my 583 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,280 e-mail list. It asks that so it can e-mail 584 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:45,640 you a copy for you to print out and and so you and your partner 585 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,040 can fill those out, print out those copies or pull it up on 586 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,760 your phone and then go over them together. 587 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,040 That's that's the only reason. Yeah, no, I don't. 588 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,720 The only emails I ever sent out anyway was when I published a 589 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:03,840 new episode. And I haven't done that, like I 590 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:09,680 said, in a couple years. So but that that tool, because I 591 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,520 wanted people to be able to do it without having to worry about 592 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,600 spam and all that stuff. Yeah, it does not get put on any 593 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,280 list. Oh, that's awesome. 594 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,320 Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. 595 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,320 I think that's, I completely agree with you. 596 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,480 It's just such a good thing that you can self reflect and that 597 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,520 people can discover more about themselves. 598 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,920 I guess just with me, I'm just doing it every day, either 599 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,480 professionally or personally, you know, it's, it's just 600 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,200 something I know that I love doing And I, I, I don't think 601 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,360 anything that there really hasn't been, that I haven't 602 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,640 already experienced that I could say, you know, I think if 603 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,000 anything, I've grown more into what I enjoy, you know. 604 00:45:52,400 --> 00:46:03,640 Yeah, Master Gear, who's learned under Master Gabriel of House 605 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,760 Ravenblood, who learned under Mistress Cyan, who runs Dom Con 606 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,400 he which there's Dom Con Los Angeles and Dom Con New Orleans. 607 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,280 They they were in Atlanta at one point, but those are the two 608 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,720 primary before COVID hit. They were going to go to Europe 609 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,800 and Australia, but that hasn't happened yet. 610 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:41,200 Anyway, master gear is somewhat of an anomaly in that he's a 611 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:52,920 switch or they they're a switch and like I did a three plus hour 612 00:46:52,920 --> 00:47:05,120 episode with him them about CBT cock and ball torture and cock 613 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:11,560 cages and all of this stuff and I and that is one of their 614 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,720 absolute favorite things to experience. 615 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:20,480 I'm like, no, I'm not into any. I will do sounding on others. 616 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:26,160 I will not participate in it. I've taken classes on it and the 617 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:31,360 last class that I took on it. Worst presenter, most hateful 618 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:37,920 person in the community I've ever met, but also one of the 619 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,920 best teachers. Two things can be true at the 620 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,600 same time. One of the greatest teachers 621 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,440 that I've ever seen that I've ever taken class from, and the 622 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,520 way that she taught it made me interested in sounding well. 623 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:57,560 I've not done it on myself. Not opposed to it, just never 624 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,720 woke up and be like, OK, today's the day. 625 00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:04,400 I'm going to give that a go. I'm talking to master gear about 626 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:13,640 the the cock cages and I'm like, do you know, I have ordered many 627 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,840 of people to put them on. I've put many on people and it's 628 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,640 one of the few things that and sounding and maybe 2-3 other 629 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,720 things that I've done to others that I've never experienced 630 00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:32,400 myself and I'm very big on. If you're going to do it to 631 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,640 somebody else, you need to know what it feels like. 632 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,200 You need to have it done to you. I'm not saying that everybody 633 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,800 needs to start out as a submissive or as a bottom, but I 634 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,720 am saying that if you're going to take a single tail to 635 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:47,520 somebody, then the person that you're learning single tail from 636 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,840 should be also showing you what it feels like. 637 00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:58,240 And you should be accepting of that because there's different 638 00:48:58,240 --> 00:48:59,960 techniques. You're like, you know, they can 639 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:01,680 show you. When I'm teaching somebody, I'm 640 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,480 like, OK, this is this part of the cracker is where you want to 641 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,360 hit somebody with. Normally I have a cracker laying 642 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,000 here on my desk, but this part is going to feel this way when 643 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,520 you hit with this intensity or this intensity, if you want to 644 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,160 do a full drag with with the knot, it's going to leave this 645 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,080 mark and do this. And this is what this feels 646 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,160 like. And you know, these types of 647 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:33,360 things, floggers, whatever common or uncommon toy that you 648 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:41,280 happen to use, it's very, very important to me to know what 649 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:47,240 that's going to feel like. So I was very limited in, and I 650 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:49,520 am very limited in what I will do to somebody else. 651 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:55,120 I hate electrical. Oh my God, I that is, that is 652 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,120 absolute freaking torture to me. I had to go for a nerve study 653 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,760 and they they shock you all up and down your arms and then they 654 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,720 insert needles and then they shock through those needles that 655 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:14,280 are inserted into the muscle right there into the the part of 656 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,120 the hand below the thumb is the absolute most painful thing I 657 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,120 think I've ever experienced next to a pinched nerve in my back 658 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,400 that made me dry heaved for a good 30 minutes. 659 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:35,960 But I still know what every setting on my violent Wand or my 660 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:42,200 Doc Johnson shocker, you know, my Taser, I know what they feel 661 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,080 like. My 10s unit, which 10s units, 662 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,040 That's the only kind of electrical play. 663 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,920 But that's a totally different game. 664 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,760 But I'm into that because of my injury. 665 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,520 But yeah, Valent One and stuff and knowing that, OK, if I plug 666 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:05,120 it into this outlet, it's it very well could have a different 667 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,320 power than what it has plugged into this outlet. 668 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,160 And people don't realize that. And yeah, there was at our local 669 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,520 play space when I was going there, I knew that one outlet 670 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:26,560 over on one wall set it at 3 is going to be about the same 671 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,560 equivalent as a nine over on the other one. 672 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:35,120 But the only reason that I knew that is because every time I 673 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,920 plugged it in, turned it to five and tapped it to my skin to see 674 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,400 what it felt like at that particular level. 675 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:48,280 And then I would run it up and down to like 3:00 and 7:00 to 676 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,960 see where that was at every single time. 677 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,160 Just because I'm neurotic like that. 678 00:51:54,160 --> 00:52:00,320 I think that's a little extreme, but yeah, it's just important to 679 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,720 me to to make sure I want everybody to have the best time. 680 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,360 And if I screw up and do something that makes somebody 681 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:14,680 say red, that that's that's screwing myself over you. 682 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,920 Know because they screwing them over but you don't get to play 683 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,480 Yeah, screwing. Me over. 684 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,400 That's no, that's no good. No bueno. 685 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:33,080 No, oh papi, no bueno. Oh goodness, I. 686 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:39,520 Had When I was about 19, Makita brought a friend home. 687 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:48,480 She was from northern Mexico and her her thing was for things to 688 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:57,360 be no good and it was just some some little inside joke that it 689 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:04,080 started before me and it become part of her erotic experience. 690 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,040 But it I would hear that a lot. Oh Poppy no Plano. 691 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,840 Like damn it don't say it again. Not unless you want this to be 692 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,960 over in like 3 seconds. Oh goodness, that's too funny. 693 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,480 Wow. Oh yeah, it was good times. 694 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,080 Anyway, now I've made my face red. 695 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:35,000 That's too funny. Well, I think this has been a 696 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,040 great episode. I. 697 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,000 Can't believe it's been an hour already. 698 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,280 It's crazy. It is. 699 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,200 It's so crazy. Such a good time. 700 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,800 I love talking to you, you're an amazing person. 701 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,360 Thank you. Same here. 702 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,440 Same here. Thank you. 703 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,440 Same here. Yeah, we'll have to. 704 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,400 We'll have to meet up in Atlanta just on a fun whim and go to a 705 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,200 dungeon and have some fun. Yeah, I talked to my wife about 706 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,240 heading down your way. Oh yeah. 707 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,440 And we are heading out to Arizona, packing up the camper 708 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,520 and heading out there at the end of this month and that's a two 709 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,600 week thing. So unfortunately, we won't be 710 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:23,560 able to make it down to Florida soon because that's too much 711 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,160 vacation time for. Her. 712 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,560 So unfortunately we are not going to be able to do that 713 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,000 right now, but sometime soon. Absolutely. 714 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,760 Or soon ish. I definitely want to do that. 715 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,320 I think she gets some more vacation time toward the end of 716 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:48,280 summer or something like that. So yeah, hopefully I can get 717 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,800 down that way. I'm, I'm dying to get back to 718 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:56,840 the shed in Orlando and just make a, a big trip around and do 719 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,840 several things in that area. Because I, I know a lot of 720 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,000 people down there and a lot of them are pretty pissed at me 721 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,960 that I hadn't been down in about four years, I think four or 722 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:11,800 five. Years and five. 723 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:12,880 Years. Yeah. 724 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,720 God, going on six years now. Jesus, it's been too long. 725 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,040 You'll have to check out Sidetracks, they're in New 726 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,360 Smyrna Beach a good friend of mine runs at. 727 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:29,920 Yeah, you can check them out with an X at the end, that's 728 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,920 how. I wrote it New Smyrna. 729 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,920 Yeah, they're on Fetlife Smyrna. Beach. 730 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,640 Yeah, OK. They've got a cool set up. 731 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,320 They they just had a Dom party Saturday. 732 00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:49,000 Cool people. Nice. 733 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,760 Yeah, very cool. I want to give a shout out to 734 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,960 Clinton SC for kink stock. They do it there. 735 00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,280 They have a spring session and a fall session. 736 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,120 So if anybody is around there and they're experienced or 737 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,880 they're completely brand new, let me tell you, it's a great 738 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,920 place to learn. They they bring in educators. 739 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,120 I've taught there a couple times and they make sure that they 740 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:21,640 rotate educators like it since I taught there in a fall session 741 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,240 and then in spring session, then I have to take time off from 742 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:27,040 being able to go back and teach there. 743 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,000 But it's a place that like I want to go this fall. 744 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,160 It's a like a four or five day event. 745 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,560 It's phenomenal. The the people there are so 746 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,240 accepting. It's the most, it's the coziest 747 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,040 event that I've ever been to. Oh wow. 748 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:52,800 And I like out of all my years of doing this, 30 years of doing 749 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:58,000 this and traveling and teaching, I've traveled all over the US 750 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:06,040 and taught. That is my spot that I I feel at 751 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,720 home just thinking about the place. 752 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,320 That's awesome, you have to send me a link so I can post it. 753 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,640 Yeah, will do. If anybody is is in that area, 754 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:20,760 it's a vetted event. So you do need to to work out 755 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,880 being vetted, especially if you're thinking about traveling 756 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,360 to it. But absolutely phenomenal. 757 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,280 There's a there's tents, a tent area. 758 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,480 It's a big camping event and then they're they've got RV and 759 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,720 camper parking too. I think they cap it at like 100 760 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,200 people or something like that. So yeah, phenomenal. 761 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,440 Anyway, I always, I always want to mention them anytime I talk 762 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,640 to somebody because they're just, it's such an amazing 763 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,560 place. That's awesome. 764 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,000 Well, Cauldron, thank you again, and we'll certainly catch up 765 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,240 soon. Absolutely. 766 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:02,040 Thank you so much. It it feels good to to be back 767 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,120 in this seat behind the microphone and talking to 768 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,240 somebody about the things that just put that shit eating grin 769 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,800 on my face. Hey, it's the place for you. 770 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,320 I'm glad you came to the mic. That's the point. 771 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,440 Yeah, talking about places that I feel home right here, talking 772 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,280 to you, actually. You. 773 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:26,440 You've given me a new home since I since I gave up my old one. 774 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,160 As temporary as it may be, I'm very grateful. 775 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,200 No, no, it's OK. It's OK because I know people 776 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,520 enjoy this, especially just the, the educational part of it. 777 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,760 You know, people need to hear it and get knowledgeable of it. 778 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,040 You know, it's, it's just an important thing that to talk 779 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,120 about honestly, 'cause I go and talk about kinks all the time, 780 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,040 but we get down a little deeper. It's it's more fun. 781 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,440 Yeah, yeah. And I think that's, you know, 782 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,400 something that people are missing so much and why podcasts 783 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:05,280 are so great because not everybody can feel safe or feel 784 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:11,320 comfortable going to a class. But you know, every episode is 785 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:17,040 some type of class. And you know, that's, that's the 786 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,240 great thing. You're, you're doing the Lord's 787 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,480 work here, Mistress me, the Lord's work. 788 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:28,480 I puppy. Oh, he's now. 789 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,160 I have a little Mexican enemy, I promise it's. 790 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,520 Been a long time since I've called somebody mistress in a 791 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:45,480 minute. You keep talking like that and I 792 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:52,040 might have to say it. Oh goodness, you're too fun. 793 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,320 You're too fun. I love it. 794 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,240 Life's too short. Don't. 795 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,680 Never it really. Hurts like whether whether 796 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:03,720 you're a dominant, A submissive, a switch, a top bottom, a pony, 797 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,600 a whatever you're. Furry, slut, whore, whatever. 798 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,440 Yeah, whatever your role is, don't take it too serious like 799 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:11,840 there's. There's. 800 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:19,960 So much fun that can be had in in every single area. 801 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:25,640 And I think sometimes, especially on the, the dominant 802 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,040 side, people come in thinking that they have to be so 803 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:34,760 incredibly stern and, you know, dress the part and, and when 804 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,960 they put their their kid on, it puts them in a certain mindset. 805 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:46,120 And I get that. But learning the balance between 806 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,920 once that scene starts and developing a routine that gets 807 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:57,600 you into that mindset of the scene versus the mindset of 808 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:03,040 being in the play space, whether the play space is your personal 809 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:07,840 bedroom or a, you know, professional or public dungeon, 810 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:08,680 whatever. Yeah. 811 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,400 So anyway, sorry this is the third wrap up that we want. 812 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,160 I like to talk. You're OK? 813 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,160 You're OK. Colder and I have a talking 814 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:26,720 problem. Well, I think we'll just, we'll 815 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,120 hook you up again to the mic when you come back from Arizona, 816 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,400 OK? You know, just have a safe trip 817 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,760 and thank you again. All right. 818 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,920 All righty. Thank you so much. 819 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,320 It has been an absolute pleasure. 820 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:49,640 Same here. All right, so thank you again. 821 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,800 And until then, this has been the latest episode of Calling 822 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:53,600 Mistress.