1 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,280 Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Mr. Smea's Dungeon. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:16,400 I'm your Hostess, Mr. Smea, and today it's just me all alone 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,080 with a special guest. Charles. 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,000 Slave boy, bitch. Yeah. 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,920 All right, so I know we're going to have to do a shout out for 6 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Steve because Steve so wants to be with me here. 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,520 You know, like rubbing my feet, doing all sorts of things for 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,120 me. He does. 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:44,600 There's some jealousy going on. No, I think admiration. 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Yeah, that's a lot to admire. He's got a good point. 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,080 You have awesome feet and it's a pleasure to rub him. 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,680 Oh, OK. All right. 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,040 Well, I thought today you told me it's the total package though 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,960 it's not just the the feet. It's the total package, all 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,240 right. Defeat or a lovely bonus. 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,640 OK, good to know. So I'm just going to read a 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,720 little e-mail that I had gotten and I thought it was really 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,240 flattering. It was sweet, he said. 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,640 Hi Mr. Smea, just a quick note to tell you how much I love the 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,160 podcast. As someone new to listening to 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,040 podcasts, I'm glad I found yours. 22 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,040 Now all I need to do is figure out how to work it. 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,160 I somehow got all of yours to come in all in a row and I binge 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,720 listen to all of them so it sounds like it's not a bad 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,160 thing. Honestly if you can tolerate us 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,560 that long, or tolerate me I should say. 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Need to figure out how to be able to watch the videos. 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,240 Your insights are right on. You have this early 60s 29 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,960 submissive figured out without even meeting me. 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,960 Almost eerie. Guess we're all similar. 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,280 It is awesome to listen to someone that is so free with 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,400 their kinks. The Griswolds were awesome too. 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,840 If I lived in the area I would definitely be at those parties. 34 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,560 The public beatings are awesome. The parties sound awesome. 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,880 Thanks for taking the time to do the podcast. 36 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,120 So the. Public meetings. 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,520 Yeah, I think I talked about some public beatings on a couple 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,160 of episodes. OK. 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,640 Yeah, we got to talk about that, you know. 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,560 The Fucked Up Fridays are the ones that come to mind from me. 41 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,240 Yeah, yeah. And you've been there, done 42 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,520 that. I have I have been beaten quite 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,200 a few times. Unless you're cuted hair removed 44 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,560 forcefully. Forcefully, yeah. 45 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:35,840 I don't think Steve would be jealous about that. 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,440 He got to give it a shot, though. 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,440 It's yeah, I'm I'm going to fuck Steve up. 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,440 If he doesn't shave, I'm sure he. 49 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,360 Will be fucking Oh Steve, you got to shave everything. 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,160 I will find a hair. She means fucking everything. 51 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Everything. She will find it. 52 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,480 What is that? Eyebrows and down. 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,600 Leave his eyebrows. Yeah, eyebrows and some facial 54 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,040 hair. As long as the facial hair looks 55 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,600 good though. But if? 56 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,120 You have hair on your taint, you're going to pay. 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,480 Yeah. So you better get be getting 58 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,080 down on your hands and knees spreading it. 59 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,640 You know, Charles actually sent me a funny little picture 60 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:13,800 because before he came over to see me, he got on all fours. 61 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,240 He's in the shower. He's craving his craving. 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,360 Yeah, craving too. But he's shaving his his bits 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,880 and pieces there. And he looks at the shower head 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,240 faucet handle. Right, the faucet, the faucet. 65 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,560 And it said P Fister. And I thought of Maine in center 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,720 of pictures. Yes, I haven't fished your pee 67 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:43,560 pee, but you never know it's. Probably on the list. 68 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,160 It's probably on the list, Yeah. Abby was putting away some tools 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,040 for me tonight in the big cabinet that we have a lot of 70 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,920 stuff. And she says, Mia, why do you 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,720 have knitting needles? And I said because I like to 72 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,160 take knitting needles and shove them down guys penises. 73 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Jesus, I didn't see that part. No, you were. 74 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,240 You stepped out. I'm glad I missed that part. 75 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,040 Yeah, you missed that. But it's for men who want it. 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,400 OK, Yeah. You guys are like sounding. 77 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,480 Oh, yeah, yeah. All right. 78 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,000 So a lot of people really don't know too much about you. 79 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,640 I mean, they they hear you on the podcast at different times. 80 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,120 We've talked about the parties, we've talked about different 81 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:29,080 things, but a lot of people don't really know the you, the 82 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Charles, the Intrepid 1. So you cross dress and you used 83 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,120 to do that quite a bit before we met. 84 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,800 Oh yeah. So tell us about your cross 85 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,080 dressing journey because it's really important because of so 86 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,440 many listeners, they want to cross dress and they can't. 87 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,200 OK, well I can relate to that. I guess I started when I was a 88 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,120 kid around like 14, and I'm not really sure where it started, 89 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,800 but, you know, I always like the look of pantyhose. 90 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,120 And you like seeing stuff like Wonder Woman was a big influence 91 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,360 on me, especially for bondage. But I always loved that outfit 92 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,120 and I like seeing a woman in that outfit, but I was kind of 93 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,800 curious what it would be like to wear those clothes. 94 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,800 So when you're young, you don't have a lot of options. 95 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,240 So yeah, I'm ashamed to admit this, but I stole my mother's 96 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,640 pantyhose and tried them on and that felt fucking awesome. 97 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,760 And then, you know, later on I stole another family members 98 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,000 bikini and tried that and I just thought it was great. 99 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,640 And I really didn't do anything else for quite a long time 100 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,800 because I repressed it because I grew up in the Deep South, 101 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,080 hardcore Bible belt, conservatives. 102 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,920 So I just buried it for a long time, even through college, 103 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,280 joined the military, went out to California and everything 104 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:53,320 started firing up out there because they had sex shops, 105 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,400 BDSM, you name it. Nothing was weird. 106 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:57,880 So you leaped. Really. 107 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,320 You went, leaped from left, left. 108 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,760 He went from there to there. But the question is, why would 109 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,560 you be compelled to get on stockings in the first place? 110 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:14,320 They well, it was just a look. I remember when I was young 111 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,880 walking to like the grocery stores. 112 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,640 You remember the the eggs with the pantyhose in? 113 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,000 It Oh yeah, those are legs. That was the brand. 114 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,920 And they had these commercials that always come on. 115 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,360 And so these women walking around with these long, 116 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,560 beautiful legs and smooth and sheer. 117 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,920 And I would see women walking around with them and they just 118 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,520 look one that looks sexy but they look comfortable as hell. 119 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,080 Now, do you remember 3's company? 120 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,600 I do see you remember that. Do you remember how they took 121 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,240 Suzanne Somers and she was, like, bent over and like a pair 122 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,520 of yellow shorts? And she had. 123 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,440 Yeah, those long, beautiful. Legs. 124 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,600 Yeah. And that's why I immediately 125 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,120 thought because they did a leg commercial like that. 126 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,960 Oh well, they had a lot of that. Yeah, and. 127 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,960 Then there was Barbara Palmer's song. 128 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,800 She's got legs and she knows how to use them. 129 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,120 Oh, yeah. But there's a lot of that shit. 130 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Just. I guess it was just imagery. 131 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,680 You know, women have fantastic legs, OK. 132 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,560 And this pantyhose just set them off. 133 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,400 And I was just what it felt like. 134 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,720 And it was kind of innocent in the beginning, but it was, you 135 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,360 know, getting where I grew up. It was kind of I, I, I pushed 136 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,480 it. I repressed it severely. 137 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,520 And that's why I jumped ahead to the military because I repressed 138 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,800 it for that long. I was curious when I was young. 139 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,440 And I'm like, OK, people can't know. 140 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,880 I have to hide this. And when I got to California? 141 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,720 Hold on, did you masturbate in them? 142 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,760 Not at first. Wait a minute. 143 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,120 No, not at first. You. 144 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,400 Have to. Think about that. 145 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,800 It was curious. OK, I cannot rule that out. 146 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,120 OK. All right. 147 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,800 So you might have. I might have you had repressed 148 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,440 to a lot of. Shit, I was gonna say you might 149 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,360 have repressed that memory. I masturbated a lot in high and 150 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,880 in high school. OK, so once I discovered that, 151 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,840 you know, 12 years old, am I? Oh my God this thing does so 152 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,400 much more than P. Oh my God, yeah. 153 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Can't tell you what all I was, you know, enticed by. 154 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,520 It was pretty much everything. It was just you just have a hard 155 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,880 day. I got to make just go away to go 156 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,960 to school. I mean, just then a whole lot of 157 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,800 reason to put thought into why a teenage boy masturbates. 158 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,840 Yeah. Why the ducks quack. 159 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,080 It's just you're going to do it. Yeah. 160 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,800 So you go to the military and then you decide to do what? 161 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,400 Well, I went to a went to a sex store because we never had one 162 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,720 in Mississippi and a bunch of us southern boys were out there. 163 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,919 I know a guy from Oklahoma and we went to this sex store and it 164 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:37,360 was like, holy shit, there were stuff everywhere. 165 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:41,440 And I remember the first thing we saw was this giant fist on 166 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,320 the wall and we stood there for like 10 minutes going what in 167 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,360 the fuck are we looking at? We went to the back where the 168 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,480 magazine section were and that's where all these BDSM magazines 169 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,280 and they had one called Shaved Oriental. 170 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,120 That was my particular favorite, but. 171 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,080 You like some hot Asian girls? I do have. 172 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,600 Oh God I was stationed in Asia for years. 173 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,520 Fuck yes I love Asian women. I love Asian women, actually, 174 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,760 ever since high school when I would see him on TV because we 175 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,480 didn't have any Asian women in my town. 176 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,680 And I'm like, oh, they're beautiful. 177 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,320 It's just the eyes and the hair. But once I got stationed over 178 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,240 there, yes, I was in fucking heaven. 179 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,880 I believe it, but. It's what the crossdressing it 180 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,200 all kind of reawoken all at one time. 181 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,960 Everything. Like when I was younger, I was 182 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,560 also curious about BDSM from watching Wonder Woman. 183 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:30,200 She would get tied up or she would tie other people up and I 184 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,800 was interested on both ends of those. 185 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,640 And when I was real young, I would tie myself up in a closet 186 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,400 with jump rope to see what it felt like. 187 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,560 But again, this was young. And then I repressed it all 188 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:41,160 through my high school and college years. 189 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,360 And then for whatever reason, I got out there in California and 190 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:49,440 it's just, everything came back, started reading BDSM magazines 191 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,560 and just got curious about all of it all over again. 192 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,800 All at one time. It all came flooding in. 193 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:57,680 And maybe it's because I was away from the South. 194 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,320 And, you know, we still had to be careful with it because it 195 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,360 was the service. So, you know, we could do some 196 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,320 stuff, you know, me showing up to work wearing a pair of 197 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,920 panties. Was it going to fucking happen? 198 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,240 But it just, it just all sparked at one time in my early 20s. 199 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,520 So what you want to talk about more cross dressing? 200 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,320 At that point when I started kicking, yeah. 201 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,200 Yeah, that's what I'm I'm. You're more curious about when 202 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,400 did you really start it again as your adult? 203 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,280 What I started doing, since we would have, we had roommates, I 204 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,440 had to be careful. So every once in a while I were 205 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,240 to go to Victoria's Secret and I would look at something that 206 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,800 looked kind of nice and I would go get an apartment, a hotel 207 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,520 room for a night and I would wear like stockings or a teddy 208 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,080 or something. I would always buy something a 209 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,240 little bit different and weren't not often at all. 210 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,080 I mean like every several months. 211 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,760 And it wasn't, it wasn't even completely sexual at first. 212 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,760 It was trying it on to see how it felt and how it looked and I 213 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,360 didn't really, I can't, I like the feel of it, but I didn't 214 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,120 like the look because I had real hairy legs, hairy chest and I'm 215 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,560 like, OK, this feels all right. But you know, it's just just 216 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:14,080 just doesn't look very cool. It didn't really turn sexual 217 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,520 until I get out of the service because I, I started thinking I 218 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,360 might have been bisexual in the military and it, it really 219 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,200 started in my early 20s where I just kind of had some thoughts, 220 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,520 but I was really good at, you know, repressing shit. 221 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,600 So I kept everything down and said I left active duty. 222 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,040 And then again, it was another eye opening experience because I 223 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,600 allowed myself to have a first bisexual experience. 224 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,600 And how old were you then? I was probably about 26 for the 225 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,760 first one. So. 226 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,120 So what would actually lead to that if you'd never even thought 227 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,680 about it, right? I'd well, I was thinking about 228 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:55,120 it in the military, but I repressed it because I couldn't 229 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,160 go out and do it because it was court martial able at the time. 230 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,800 OK. Did you think about? 231 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:02,160 Yeah, I was gonna say, did you think about it as a kid, though? 232 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,360 No I didn't. OK, I knew I like girls but they 233 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,120 didn't really like me in high school until I got like around 234 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,840 16 and 17. Gotcha. 235 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,360 But I never ever thought about guys in that way and honestly I 236 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,440 still don't. I'm not attracted to guys, I'm 237 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,160 attracted to Dick. Oh yeah, it's all about the 238 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,320 cock. But it's only like, sometimes 239 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:26,600 I've said women 90% and 10% male. 240 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,320 And even then it kind of comes and goes in cycles, you know, I 241 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,240 male it. I don't know what you want to 242 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,920 call it. It's definitely bisexual, but 243 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,000 it's heterosexual with a touch of flexibility. 244 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,040 Yeah. But at this point, it's only 245 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,320 like when I cross dress because the idea of doing something just 246 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,440 as a naked male but another male is just, it doesn't do anything 247 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,720 for me. But I'm just saying why with 248 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,840 women though, it has. It's not just any woman. 249 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,480 It's got to be a specific woman and we have to do something 250 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,840 interesting because I told you before, regular mom and 251 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,680 Pennsylvania fucking just doesn't do it for me. 252 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:02,160 That's why I'm in a dungeon tonight. 253 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Right. The cross dressing. 254 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,760 It was a fun time in the dungeon tonight, but that's for a 255 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,400 different story. It was a great. 256 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,800 Different episode. They usually are, yeah, but the 257 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,400 cross dressing didn't really get heavy until after I left active 258 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,160 duty. And I did have a lot of 259 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,320 thoughts, a lot of thoughts, but I was held it down and I had to 260 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,280 be careful because I don't know what it's like now. 261 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,160 They're a lot more tolerant now. They were not tolerant then. 262 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,760 They had just started the don't ask, don't tell shit. 263 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,880 So I notice you've always analyzed everything, you know, 264 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,280 and you have a tendency to like, overanalyze, overthink things 265 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,680 and, and that's cool, you know, but did you ever find yourself 266 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:46,960 like, you're around all these guys in the military and, you 267 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:53,800 know, you're in the locker room? No, it's not that way, OK. 268 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,040 So how is that way? Because women are different. 269 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,080 Well, it's it's, it's like this. You. 270 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,120 You. What's up with basic training? 271 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,680 OK, You're taking a shower over 50 other guys. 272 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,400 You're not. It's nothing sexual about it. 273 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,400 You. Nobody's everybody's away from 274 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,360 home. You're up all fucking day. 275 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,040 You're exhausted. You. 276 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,280 It's business. You get in, you get out. 277 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,400 You know, it, it just wasn't anything sexual about it. 278 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,520 It's, they call it boot camp. I mean, it's it's not pleasant. 279 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,280 No, they call it Boot camp for a. 280 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,240 Reason, I mean, you're exercising all the time, you're 281 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,360 working out constantly. Drill starters are always up 282 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,240 your ass. You have to study for tests. 283 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,480 It is not vacation. And so when I'm going to shower, 284 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,800 I really the last thing I'm thinking about is, you know, 285 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,240 even looking under the guy's Wang, but I'm lucky because I'm 286 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,840 blind as a bat without glasses. It's all I had to do is we just 287 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,680 walk around the shower and get the hell out. 288 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,840 But it it wasn't anything sexual to it and I'm sure maybe there's 289 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,040 some guys that wear it is, but to me it was. 290 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,120 It's just business is something we had to do. 291 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,880 OK, So what is it? You know when you're laying in 292 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,640 bed at night and you're thinking, Huh? 293 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:08,120 Not during basics. But at some point, when did you 294 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,320 start thinking about being bisexual? 295 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,160 With couples that I heard were actually swinging and they 296 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,680 weren't supposed to be. And then somebody mentioned a 297 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,600 girl was talking about pegging this guy with a strap on and 298 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,480 that's when it started with strap ONS. 299 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,320 And I'm like, OK, because I was always curious about that. 300 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,960 And then I did try it with a dominatrix once out there and 301 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,680 it's pretty fucking awesome. I'm like, but you know, in the 302 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,000 South, we just I'm sure people try it went back in those days, 303 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,040 but they're always, you know, so taboo. 304 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,200 But it feels really good if you do it right. 305 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,000 And then later on I'm like, shit, no guy might not be that 306 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,840 bad. And it was like a curiosity. 307 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,920 Anything but the strap bump. Anal felt good when done right. 308 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,400 And anal feels terrible when done wrong. 309 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,720 And I think that's why so many women don't do anal because they 310 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,800 get a guy who doesn't know what he's doing and then Ouch. 311 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,320 And then she tells her friends and they don't like anal if you 312 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,840 do it right. Oh shit. 313 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,200 But that ties in partially with a cross dressing. 314 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,640 I think it started with the dressing and then expanded 315 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,280 outward, you know, But after that I started dressing more. 316 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,120 It wasn't just about, you know, lingerie and stockings. 317 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,480 I would try to go for the, the full look, but never to be 318 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,640 completely passable. I've never done that. 319 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,120 But I would meet up with a dominatrix since they would, you 320 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,160 know, put on makeup and put on a wig. 321 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,840 I met a woman in in Thailand that did that one night. 322 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,920 They dressed me for, you know, head to toe. 323 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,960 Felt awesome, you know, and then they, I mean, that was great. 324 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,520 I think that was the first time I was fully dressed. 325 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,560 And then when I got back to the South, I met a few people on 326 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,200 alt.com and Collar Space, and it was still intermittent. 327 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,280 I mean, like every couple of years I would meet up with a 328 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,360 couple and they would dress me up or I would start dressing up. 329 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,240 And then I want to have usually a sexual experience with a male 330 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,200 dressed as a woman. And I really enjoyed that. 331 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,760 But I still would dress up on my own once in a while. 332 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,920 But it's never really been where I'm sitting around an apartment 333 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,599 dressed up because I'm always been or I've had some kind of a 334 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:12,480 job that was related to defense. And later on, I was in the South 335 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,319 where I'm surrounded by family and they show up at all hours, 336 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:18,920 you know, so I can't exactly be around and, you know, wearing a 337 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,040 French maids outfit. So I've always had to travel to, 338 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,960 you know, go dress up and, you know, just just have a good 339 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,440 time. But I guess it's like an 340 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,120 intermittent thing that I like maybe if I grew up in California 341 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,720 as a kid, maybe I'd be like one of these, you know, trans 342 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,440 ladies, whether they wanted to transition or whatever. 343 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,680 But for me, it's always been like a segment of my 344 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,720 personality. And I just let it out once in a 345 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,400 while. Like even here, I've only 346 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,680 dressed up here like one time. And that's what we've done each 347 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,560 other a year now. But for I'd say two or three 348 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,280 years after the pandemic, yeah, I did it fairly often. 349 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,320 I would go meet people on different in Georgia and 350 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,320 Louisiana and in Alabama. And I had a pretty good time 351 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,360 with it. So why do you think it's 352 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:03,560 intermittent? Most things with me are I'm not 353 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,720 into one thing or the other. You know, I've done just like 354 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,240 the parties. I've actually switched. 355 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,080 I'm very sub to you, but that's because our dynamic, I'm very 356 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,720 submissive towards you. But with some of the other 357 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,840 couples I've switched with, it depends on my mood at the time 358 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,680 and things constantly shift. It's like I'm not always into 359 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,120 pain and I've taken a lot of pain for you guys, but it's not 360 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:27,240 like I want it constantly. But sometimes when the mood is 361 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,120 right, yeah, Ruby would be out there beating the shit out of me 362 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:33,400 and I can take it. And sometimes somebody will flip 363 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,440 me on the ball and it's over with, you know? 364 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,680 It's just, you know, it's just intermittent. 365 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,280 So they talk about the whole binge and purge with cross 366 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,360 dressing. I've done that a few times. 367 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,240 OK, One was from necessity because I was in New Zealand and 368 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,160 I had a a kit with me. I went to meet a couple there 369 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,680 and we had a good time. But something happened in the 370 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,600 suitcase, got completely wet and I had to dry it out and 371 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,160 everything was just ruined. So I tossed that. 372 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,760 That was a purge by necessity. Another time, there was several 373 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,360 years where I didn't have time. I was working on my own. 374 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:13,280 I was running my family's farm when my father had his stroke. 375 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,400 So I had it was working seven days a week, like 12 hours a day 376 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,120 constantly. And that was my life for this 377 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:22,560 foreseeable future. So one day I was like, fuck it. 378 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,760 And I threw everything away because there was no way I could 379 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,240 drive, you know, a couple of hours to go do this, you know, 380 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,680 where I could be free to do this. 381 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,120 So I quit for a while. It's, I purged then. 382 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:37,400 And I think there was one of the time, but I can't recall right 383 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,680 now. That's when I would save up 384 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,720 clothes. I would buy an Amazon or, you 385 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,480 know, something like that. I, I only went into the store a 386 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,280 few times and bought clothes because I was always kind of 387 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,920 embarrassed about it. I did go to Atlanta and go to a 388 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,480 store there and bought a lot of things. 389 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,800 And that was, that didn't bother me because I knew I wasn't going 390 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,160 to run into anybody I knew. And that was kind of fun. 391 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,960 But most of the time I would go on like Amazon or something like 392 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,120 that and just, you know, order a cute dress or lingerie or 393 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:07,720 whatever and you just try it on when I had time. 394 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,920 But I haven't purged in quite some time. 395 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,800 I keep everything now when I it's done a purge, I get rid of 396 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,280 stuff that doesn't fit me anymore. 397 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,440 I think somebody else might like, like, I've given you quite 398 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,040 a few things for your dungeon. Yeah. 399 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,200 That pink Sissy dress which is just too big for me, and that 400 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,960 leopard skin thing which just just didn't work. 401 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,800 But I'm keeping my cheerleader outfit. 402 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,360 It actually fits. So you know, whenever I have 403 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:34,880 crossdressers come to the dungeon, I always ask them, do 404 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,320 you want to feel like a slutty woman or do you want to feel 405 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,200 like a slutty girl? You know? 406 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,640 So what are your thoughts? Slutty young woman I My 407 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,760 preference is definitely for dressing as cheerleader or 408 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,720 Catholic schoolgirl, but I also have other outfits. 409 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,640 What's the end of the black dresses? 410 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:04,240 A little more elegant look, but slutty is better for me. 411 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,720 That's kind. I kind of prefer that it's. 412 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,400 Like bubbly? Yeah. 413 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,720 Elegant once in a while. But like, a lot of my wigs have 414 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,360 pigtails just because, yeah, it feels fucking nasty to wear it. 415 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,560 And I like that. And some are like, you know, a 416 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,640 little Bob wig and that goes with like, a black dress, but 417 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,160 nothing too serious. And I really don't have any 418 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,200 casual wear. You like, we know some trans 419 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,800 women that, you know, that they dress like a woman, They're 420 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,040 comfortable. I don't have anything like that, 421 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,920 really. I have to go through and look. 422 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,240 So what do you think? Shopping spree would be fun. 423 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,440 Not at this point. I've got what I've got and it's 424 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,480 enough because it's really, it's a partial interest. 425 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,880 I still want to try it a little bit. 426 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,480 I want to try it here with you some more, but I'm pushing 50 427 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,240 and it's just the urge just isn't as strong as it used to 428 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,960 be, you know, once in a while it's the same as everything else 429 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,880 that I do. You know, we've done things with 430 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,840 pain and sometimes I'm into it, sometimes I'm not. 431 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,880 I just don't see the need to go out and make a huge investment. 432 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,840 You know, I've got a a good size collection now and I'm really, 433 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,400 I'd probably be thinning out instead of adding to it at this 434 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,160 point, but I still have several outfits that I do like. 435 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:13,560 You know, I'll wear them again. I'm part of. 436 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,960 I know I'll be wearing a few of them very shortly. 437 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,200 You know, like the e-mail I just read at the beginning of the 438 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,400 episode now, I don't know if he's cross dressing or not, but 439 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,240 he said, you know, you've got this 60 year old pegged, you 440 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,720 know, and he's like, we all must be pretty similar. 441 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,440 And you know, the thing of it is I think everyone's similar. 442 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:37,720 I think we all have our kinks. But I think that, you know, all 443 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,440 cross dressers, they reached that point where it's like, 444 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,000 that's why I want to keep doing this. 445 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,600 Yeah. You know. 446 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:48,000 I'm kind of there it because it's part of it is the age 447 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,080 thing. It still feels good to wear 448 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,600 certain things. I'm still going to like 449 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,040 pantyhose and stockings because sometimes it's just comfortable. 450 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,080 It feels nice. But the full dressing up it, it 451 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,000 can be kind of a hassle honestly. 452 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,120 And just the the older you get, the harder it is like right now. 453 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,320 So I've gained weight in my shoulders, so a lot of my 454 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,040 dresses aren't fitting right and it's it really pissing me off. 455 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,320 But I guess a lot of women get through that too though. 456 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:18,240 Oh God, yeah, 100%. And it's just one of those 457 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,120 things, it's like, I get rid of this. 458 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,880 There's two cute dresses I had because they just won't fit over 459 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,800 my arms anymore, you know? You know, imagine, you know, 460 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,800 every month, you know, for one hazard period, you know, nothing 461 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,160 fits, right? It's all uncomfortable. 462 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,880 I could see how it would piss you off. 463 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,680 Yeah, it is you. Had this nice dress that fit 464 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,080 last month and like, God damn it. 465 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:42,160 But the same point. I used to love corsets, but now 466 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,520 I'm like, God damn it, this thing used to fit. 467 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,080 God, yes, it whatever. You know, it's just one of those 468 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,480 things I have to shop for, one that fits better now. 469 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,600 Yeah. And, you know, bodies change. 470 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,680 You know, I'm not in my 20s. It was a lot easier to do shit, 471 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,480 you know, get stuff to fit. Now it's like, and I know we're 472 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,360 worn here last week at your house and man, that thing got 473 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:08,800 snug. I mean, it happens, you know? 474 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,080 Yeah, You know, we have this one guy at the party. 475 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,680 He comes to me. He's like, you know, I got 476 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,960 married and he's like, I just, I just don't want to get dressed 477 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,400 up anymore. I've, I've put the cross 478 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,880 dressing to the side. I'm like, why you enjoy it? 479 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,120 You know, she'll like it. She's cool with it. 480 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,760 And so many wives, so many women would not be cool with her 481 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,800 husband's dressing. No. 482 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,520 No, the women I dated would have been into this at all. 483 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,320 I had to keep it from him and I tried to introduce some of them 484 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,920 to just the smallest little aspects of BDSM. 485 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,480 I don't even get to the cross dressing and they were just put 486 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,920 off immediately. It's so sad. 487 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,080 And so I was never afraid I I was never going to be OK in a 488 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,120 vanilla relationship because they just were not into it. 489 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,600 And I have this client and I haven't seen him in probably a 490 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,240 year and a half and I don't know if he's still with us or not, 491 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,800 but he was older, he was pushing early 70s. 492 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,760 And he told me that he was married to his wife for almost 493 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:13,800 50 years and that he's always been a cross dresser, but he's 494 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,920 been extremely limited, you know, and when he can dress and 495 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,440 so. He had to hide it. 496 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,360 Yeah, so about seven or eight years ago he had, he'd started 497 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:28,000 getting stuff from online and he'd have it sent here and then 498 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,840 he would come here and he would make a day out of it. 499 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Yeah, a lot of guys do do that. Yeah, and he had to wait until 500 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,920 his wife left town. And the saddest thing of it was 501 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,200 all he wanted to do was dress up in a prom dress with his opera 502 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,800 gloves. And, you know, he wanted to play 503 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,360 and have fun and, you know, put on makeup and we just had the 504 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,640 best time. But yeah. 505 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,320 But he told me, he says, you know, I'd watch my daughters go 506 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,680 off to prom and I would be so jealous. 507 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,160 I don't know, in Vegas, in New Orleans, they have these places 508 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,800 where they have a makeover where you can go on there and they'll 509 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,360 give you an outfit and a wig, you know, and the makeup, and 510 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:09,080 they can take you out for the day and charge good money for 511 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,360 this. Because a lot of guys are in the 512 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,840 same damn boat. Because you can't be yourself. 513 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,600 A woman can go out. Well, I think it's getting 514 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,360 better now, OK, At the next generation, I don't think 515 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:21,720 they're going to have to put up with this shit. 516 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,640 People in their 50s and 60s, they've been dealing with this 517 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,920 crap, especially if you live in the Deep South or, you know, 518 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,520 even in California. So if you're in Bakersfield, 519 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,360 somebody would give you shit or they would have. 520 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,840 I don't know about now, but but the older generation, yeah, they 521 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,280 had to hide this stuff because back in the day that would have 522 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,320 gotten you in real trouble in some places. 523 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,440 It's, it's getting better, but it's not, you know, it's not 524 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,960 there yet. It's not there yet, huh? 525 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,080 But you can come to places like here and you can do what you 526 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,360 want. And but the guys that are 527 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,520 married, yeah, they've got to watch your butt sometimes, you 528 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,960 know? And I get that because they're 529 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,160 wide. I just don't understand. 530 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,760 And I had girlfriends that I couldn't even introduce the 531 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,160 idea. Like one of them, God money for 532 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,080 her missionary was kinky. She wouldn't do anything other 533 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,960 than missionary. So that was a good thing we 534 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,000 didn't stay together based on the shit that I've gotten into. 535 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,720 Wow, you would have had a boring, miserable life. 536 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,800 Oh God, the last one was 2017 and she was the one where I 537 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,480 tried to push a little bit more and I finally mentioned strap 538 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,880 ONS and she's like, well that sounds kind of gay. 539 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,720 And she did not say it in a good fucking way. 540 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,160 And I introduced, you know, a few things too. 541 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,840 But see, I introduced her to anal sex because she never had 542 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,520 it before. And the first time I fucked her 543 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,360 in the ass, she came hard. So yes, she was hooked. 544 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,360 And then I showed her what analingus was. 545 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:37,400 She loved that for a girl who had only done missionary before 546 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,480 I got got a hold of her. She came a long way. 547 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,360 But when I mentioned the strap ONS, Rut Row headed for the 548 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:43,840 hills. Wow. 549 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,760 God damn it, you liked anal, you came from it. 550 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,760 So what the fuck can I like it? But it's that Deep South. 551 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,440 Mentality. God damn it, I know. 552 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,440 It's crazy, people. Don't realize. 553 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,280 She took it in the ass and I licked her butt and she came her 554 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,440 brains out and I also use that little magic strap on with her. 555 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,920 She had no objections whatsoever and she did learn to give great 556 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,720 head, I'll give her that. Well, good, but when it came to 557 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,560 kink shit, no, I tried and I just, I didn't get to the good 558 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,560 shit. I just started with the basics. 559 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,160 With the second I mentioned Peggy, that was ball game. 560 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Wow, good God. Anyway, yeah, fuck vanilla. 561 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,720 Fuck vanilla. I'm not doing it teach his own. 562 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,880 It's not for me. Just not my cup of tea. 563 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,840 Yeah, it's sad. It's really sad that people have 564 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,800 to be like that, you know? It is what it is. 565 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,880 It is, and that's why I don't have any more vanilla friends, 566 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,600 because they just don't get it. I've got a few, I just leave 567 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,960 them out of it. I can't problematize everything 568 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,360 though. You know it. 569 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,760 To me it's just not any fun, you know, If I can't be myself, you 570 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,320 know? Well, I'm probably telling a few 571 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,320 family members some of the things I'm into. 572 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,560 And that's good that they're still supportive. 573 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,680 You know, brother and sister are the older ones. 574 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,760 I'm not telling them they can go to their graves and not know. 575 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,560 And I haven't told these two everything. 576 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,240 I've told them some of the shenanigans we get up to at the 577 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,720 parties. Not every single. 578 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,640 They don't know I'm going to be at the next one dressed as a 579 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,920 cheerleader. Oh, that's going to be fabulous, 580 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,080 right? And hot though, so I might not 581 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,520 be in that damn thing along. We'll see. 582 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880 It's supposed. To be cooler that evening so you 583 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,840 never know. But you have a pool and those 584 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,080 fake titties of mine are flotation devices, so oh, we're 585 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,840 going to find out anyway. Fuck yeah. 586 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,440 Look at you then we'll see OK floating titties we're going to 587 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,440 leave it on that. That's been, that's been pretty 588 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,240 interesting. Yeah. 589 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,560 We're going to have to talk more about different things because 590 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,440 you've floored so much. You really have. 591 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,280 I have dipped my two and many ponds. 592 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,840 And many ponds. I like it all right. 593 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,600 All right. Until then, thank you for 594 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,080 listening. May all your fantasies become 595 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:46,960 realities.