Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Mr. Smea's Dungeon.
I'm your Hostess, Mr. Smea, and today it's just me all alone
with a special guest. Charles.
Slave boy, bitch. Yeah.
All right, so I know we're going to have to do a shout out for
Steve because Steve so wants to be with me here.
You know, like rubbing my feet, doing all sorts of things for
me. He does.
There's some jealousy going on. No, I think admiration.
Yeah, that's a lot to admire. He's got a good point.
You have awesome feet and it's a pleasure to rub him.
Oh, OK. All right.
Well, I thought today you told me it's the total package though
it's not just the the feet. It's the total package, all
right. Defeat or a lovely bonus.
OK, good to know. So I'm just going to read a
little e-mail that I had gotten and I thought it was really
flattering. It was sweet, he said.
Hi Mr. Smea, just a quick note to tell you how much I love the
podcast. As someone new to listening to
podcasts, I'm glad I found yours.
Now all I need to do is figure out how to work it.
I somehow got all of yours to come in all in a row and I binge
listen to all of them so it sounds like it's not a bad
thing. Honestly if you can tolerate us
that long, or tolerate me I should say.
Need to figure out how to be able to watch the videos.
Your insights are right on. You have this early 60s
submissive figured out without even meeting me.
Almost eerie. Guess we're all similar.
It is awesome to listen to someone that is so free with
their kinks. The Griswolds were awesome too.
If I lived in the area I would definitely be at those parties.
The public beatings are awesome. The parties sound awesome.
Thanks for taking the time to do the podcast.
So the. Public meetings.
Yeah, I think I talked about some public beatings on a couple
of episodes. OK.
Yeah, we got to talk about that, you know.
The Fucked Up Fridays are the ones that come to mind from me.
Yeah, yeah. And you've been there, done
that. I have I have been beaten quite
a few times. Unless you're cuted hair removed
forcefully. Forcefully, yeah.
I don't think Steve would be jealous about that.
He got to give it a shot, though.
It's yeah, I'm I'm going to fuck Steve up.
If he doesn't shave, I'm sure he.
Will be fucking Oh Steve, you got to shave everything.
I will find a hair. She means fucking everything.
Everything. She will find it.
What is that? Eyebrows and down.
Leave his eyebrows. Yeah, eyebrows and some facial
hair. As long as the facial hair looks
good though. But if?
You have hair on your taint, you're going to pay.
Yeah. So you better get be getting
down on your hands and knees spreading it.
You know, Charles actually sent me a funny little picture
because before he came over to see me, he got on all fours.
He's in the shower. He's craving his craving.
Yeah, craving too. But he's shaving his his bits
and pieces there. And he looks at the shower head
faucet handle. Right, the faucet, the faucet.
And it said P Fister. And I thought of Maine in center
of pictures. Yes, I haven't fished your pee
pee, but you never know it's. Probably on the list.
It's probably on the list, Yeah. Abby was putting away some tools
for me tonight in the big cabinet that we have a lot of
stuff. And she says, Mia, why do you
have knitting needles? And I said because I like to
take knitting needles and shove them down guys penises.
Jesus, I didn't see that part. No, you were.
You stepped out. I'm glad I missed that part.
Yeah, you missed that. But it's for men who want it.
OK, Yeah. You guys are like sounding.
Oh, yeah, yeah. All right.
So a lot of people really don't know too much about you.
I mean, they they hear you on the podcast at different times.
We've talked about the parties, we've talked about different
things, but a lot of people don't really know the you, the
Charles, the Intrepid 1. So you cross dress and you used
to do that quite a bit before we met.
Oh yeah. So tell us about your cross
dressing journey because it's really important because of so
many listeners, they want to cross dress and they can't.
OK, well I can relate to that. I guess I started when I was a
kid around like 14, and I'm not really sure where it started,
but, you know, I always like the look of pantyhose.
And you like seeing stuff like Wonder Woman was a big influence
on me, especially for bondage. But I always loved that outfit
and I like seeing a woman in that outfit, but I was kind of
curious what it would be like to wear those clothes.
So when you're young, you don't have a lot of options.
So yeah, I'm ashamed to admit this, but I stole my mother's
pantyhose and tried them on and that felt fucking awesome.
And then, you know, later on I stole another family members
bikini and tried that and I just thought it was great.
And I really didn't do anything else for quite a long time
because I repressed it because I grew up in the Deep South,
hardcore Bible belt, conservatives.
So I just buried it for a long time, even through college,
joined the military, went out to California and everything
started firing up out there because they had sex shops,
BDSM, you name it. Nothing was weird.
So you leaped. Really.
You went, leaped from left, left.
He went from there to there. But the question is, why would
you be compelled to get on stockings in the first place?
They well, it was just a look. I remember when I was young
walking to like the grocery stores.
You remember the the eggs with the pantyhose in?
It Oh yeah, those are legs. That was the brand.
And they had these commercials that always come on.
And so these women walking around with these long,
beautiful legs and smooth and sheer.
And I would see women walking around with them and they just
look one that looks sexy but they look comfortable as hell.
Now, do you remember 3's company?
I do see you remember that. Do you remember how they took
Suzanne Somers and she was, like, bent over and like a pair
of yellow shorts? And she had.
Yeah, those long, beautiful. Legs.
Yeah. And that's why I immediately
thought because they did a leg commercial like that.
Oh well, they had a lot of that. Yeah, and.
Then there was Barbara Palmer's song.
She's got legs and she knows how to use them.
Oh, yeah. But there's a lot of that shit.
Just. I guess it was just imagery.
You know, women have fantastic legs, OK.
And this pantyhose just set them off.
And I was just what it felt like.
And it was kind of innocent in the beginning, but it was, you
know, getting where I grew up. It was kind of I, I, I pushed
it. I repressed it severely.
And that's why I jumped ahead to the military because I repressed
it for that long. I was curious when I was young.
And I'm like, OK, people can't know.
I have to hide this. And when I got to California?
Hold on, did you masturbate in them?
Not at first. Wait a minute.
No, not at first. You.
Have to. Think about that.
It was curious. OK, I cannot rule that out.
OK. All right.
So you might have. I might have you had repressed
to a lot of. Shit, I was gonna say you might
have repressed that memory. I masturbated a lot in high and
in high school. OK, so once I discovered that,
you know, 12 years old, am I? Oh my God this thing does so
much more than P. Oh my God, yeah.
Can't tell you what all I was, you know, enticed by.
It was pretty much everything. It was just you just have a hard
day. I got to make just go away to go
to school. I mean, just then a whole lot of
reason to put thought into why a teenage boy masturbates.
Yeah. Why the ducks quack.
It's just you're going to do it. Yeah.
So you go to the military and then you decide to do what?
Well, I went to a went to a sex store because we never had one
in Mississippi and a bunch of us southern boys were out there.
I know a guy from Oklahoma and we went to this sex store and it
was like, holy shit, there were stuff everywhere.
And I remember the first thing we saw was this giant fist on
the wall and we stood there for like 10 minutes going what in
the fuck are we looking at? We went to the back where the
magazine section were and that's where all these BDSM magazines
and they had one called Shaved Oriental.
That was my particular favorite, but.
You like some hot Asian girls? I do have.
Oh God I was stationed in Asia for years.
Fuck yes I love Asian women. I love Asian women, actually,
ever since high school when I would see him on TV because we
didn't have any Asian women in my town.
And I'm like, oh, they're beautiful.
It's just the eyes and the hair. But once I got stationed over
there, yes, I was in fucking heaven.
I believe it, but. It's what the crossdressing it
all kind of reawoken all at one time.
Everything. Like when I was younger, I was
also curious about BDSM from watching Wonder Woman.
She would get tied up or she would tie other people up and I
was interested on both ends of those.
And when I was real young, I would tie myself up in a closet
with jump rope to see what it felt like.
But again, this was young. And then I repressed it all
through my high school and college years.
And then for whatever reason, I got out there in California and
it's just, everything came back, started reading BDSM magazines
and just got curious about all of it all over again.
All at one time. It all came flooding in.
And maybe it's because I was away from the South.
And, you know, we still had to be careful with it because it
was the service. So, you know, we could do some
stuff, you know, me showing up to work wearing a pair of
panties. Was it going to fucking happen?
But it just, it just all sparked at one time in my early 20s.
So what you want to talk about more cross dressing?
At that point when I started kicking, yeah.
Yeah, that's what I'm I'm. You're more curious about when
did you really start it again as your adult?
What I started doing, since we would have, we had roommates, I
had to be careful. So every once in a while I were
to go to Victoria's Secret and I would look at something that
looked kind of nice and I would go get an apartment, a hotel
room for a night and I would wear like stockings or a teddy
or something. I would always buy something a
little bit different and weren't not often at all.
I mean like every several months.
And it wasn't, it wasn't even completely sexual at first.
It was trying it on to see how it felt and how it looked and I
didn't really, I can't, I like the feel of it, but I didn't
like the look because I had real hairy legs, hairy chest and I'm
like, OK, this feels all right. But you know, it's just just
just doesn't look very cool. It didn't really turn sexual
until I get out of the service because I, I started thinking I
might have been bisexual in the military and it, it really
started in my early 20s where I just kind of had some thoughts,
but I was really good at, you know, repressing shit.
So I kept everything down and said I left active duty.
And then again, it was another eye opening experience because I
allowed myself to have a first bisexual experience.
And how old were you then? I was probably about 26 for the
first one. So.
So what would actually lead to that if you'd never even thought
about it, right? I'd well, I was thinking about
it in the military, but I repressed it because I couldn't
go out and do it because it was court martial able at the time.
OK. Did you think about?
Yeah, I was gonna say, did you think about it as a kid, though?
No I didn't. OK, I knew I like girls but they
didn't really like me in high school until I got like around
16 and 17. Gotcha.
But I never ever thought about guys in that way and honestly I
still don't. I'm not attracted to guys, I'm
attracted to Dick. Oh yeah, it's all about the
cock. But it's only like, sometimes
I've said women 90% and 10% male.
And even then it kind of comes and goes in cycles, you know, I
male it. I don't know what you want to
call it. It's definitely bisexual, but
it's heterosexual with a touch of flexibility.
Yeah. But at this point, it's only
like when I cross dress because the idea of doing something just
as a naked male but another male is just, it doesn't do anything
for me. But I'm just saying why with
women though, it has. It's not just any woman.
It's got to be a specific woman and we have to do something
interesting because I told you before, regular mom and
Pennsylvania fucking just doesn't do it for me.
That's why I'm in a dungeon tonight.
Right. The cross dressing.
It was a fun time in the dungeon tonight, but that's for a
different story. It was a great.
Different episode. They usually are, yeah, but the
cross dressing didn't really get heavy until after I left active
duty. And I did have a lot of
thoughts, a lot of thoughts, but I was held it down and I had to
be careful because I don't know what it's like now.
They're a lot more tolerant now. They were not tolerant then.
They had just started the don't ask, don't tell shit.
So I notice you've always analyzed everything, you know,
and you have a tendency to like, overanalyze, overthink things
and, and that's cool, you know, but did you ever find yourself
like, you're around all these guys in the military and, you
know, you're in the locker room? No, it's not that way, OK.
So how is that way? Because women are different.
Well, it's it's, it's like this. You.
What's up with basic training?
OK, You're taking a shower over 50 other guys.
You're not. It's nothing sexual about it.
You. Nobody's everybody's away from
home. You're up all fucking day.
You're exhausted. You.
It's business. You get in, you get out.
You know, it, it just wasn't anything sexual about it.
It's, they call it boot camp. I mean, it's it's not pleasant.
No, they call it Boot camp for a.
Reason, I mean, you're exercising all the time, you're
working out constantly. Drill starters are always up
your ass. You have to study for tests.
It is not vacation. And so when I'm going to shower,
I really the last thing I'm thinking about is, you know,
even looking under the guy's Wang, but I'm lucky because I'm
blind as a bat without glasses. It's all I had to do is we just
walk around the shower and get the hell out.
But it it wasn't anything sexual to it and I'm sure maybe there's
some guys that wear it is, but to me it was.
It's just business is something we had to do.
OK, So what is it? You know when you're laying in
bed at night and you're thinking, Huh?
Not during basics. But at some point, when did you
start thinking about being bisexual?
With couples that I heard were actually swinging and they
weren't supposed to be. And then somebody mentioned a
girl was talking about pegging this guy with a strap on and
that's when it started with strap ONS.
And I'm like, OK, because I was always curious about that.
And then I did try it with a dominatrix once out there and
it's pretty fucking awesome. I'm like, but you know, in the
South, we just I'm sure people try it went back in those days,
but they're always, you know, so taboo.
But it feels really good if you do it right.
And then later on I'm like, shit, no guy might not be that
bad. And it was like a curiosity.
Anything but the strap bump. Anal felt good when done right.
And anal feels terrible when done wrong.
And I think that's why so many women don't do anal because they
get a guy who doesn't know what he's doing and then Ouch.
And then she tells her friends and they don't like anal if you
do it right. Oh shit.
But that ties in partially with a cross dressing.
I think it started with the dressing and then expanded
outward, you know, But after that I started dressing more.
It wasn't just about, you know, lingerie and stockings.
I would try to go for the, the full look, but never to be
completely passable. I've never done that.
But I would meet up with a dominatrix since they would, you
know, put on makeup and put on a wig.
I met a woman in in Thailand that did that one night.
They dressed me for, you know, head to toe.
Felt awesome, you know, and then they, I mean, that was great.
I think that was the first time I was fully dressed.
And then when I got back to the South, I met a few people on
alt.com and Collar Space, and it was still intermittent.
I mean, like every couple of years I would meet up with a
couple and they would dress me up or I would start dressing up.
And then I want to have usually a sexual experience with a male
dressed as a woman. And I really enjoyed that.
But I still would dress up on my own once in a while.
But it's never really been where I'm sitting around an apartment
dressed up because I'm always been or I've had some kind of a
job that was related to defense. And later on, I was in the South
where I'm surrounded by family and they show up at all hours,
you know, so I can't exactly be around and, you know, wearing a
French maids outfit. So I've always had to travel to,
you know, go dress up and, you know, just just have a good
time. But I guess it's like an
intermittent thing that I like maybe if I grew up in California
as a kid, maybe I'd be like one of these, you know, trans
ladies, whether they wanted to transition or whatever.
But for me, it's always been like a segment of my
personality. And I just let it out once in a
while. Like even here, I've only
dressed up here like one time. And that's what we've done each
other a year now. But for I'd say two or three
years after the pandemic, yeah, I did it fairly often.
I would go meet people on different in Georgia and
Louisiana and in Alabama. And I had a pretty good time
with it. So why do you think it's
intermittent? Most things with me are I'm not
into one thing or the other. You know, I've done just like
the parties. I've actually switched.
I'm very sub to you, but that's because our dynamic, I'm very
submissive towards you. But with some of the other
couples I've switched with, it depends on my mood at the time
and things constantly shift. It's like I'm not always into
pain and I've taken a lot of pain for you guys, but it's not
like I want it constantly. But sometimes when the mood is
right, yeah, Ruby would be out there beating the shit out of me
and I can take it. And sometimes somebody will flip
me on the ball and it's over with, you know?
It's just, you know, it's just intermittent.
So they talk about the whole binge and purge with cross
dressing. I've done that a few times.
OK, One was from necessity because I was in New Zealand and
I had a a kit with me. I went to meet a couple there
and we had a good time. But something happened in the
suitcase, got completely wet and I had to dry it out and
everything was just ruined. So I tossed that.
That was a purge by necessity. Another time, there was several
years where I didn't have time. I was working on my own.
I was running my family's farm when my father had his stroke.
So I had it was working seven days a week, like 12 hours a day
constantly. And that was my life for this
foreseeable future. So one day I was like, fuck it.
And I threw everything away because there was no way I could
drive, you know, a couple of hours to go do this, you know,
where I could be free to do this.
So I quit for a while. It's, I purged then.
And I think there was one of the time, but I can't recall right
now. That's when I would save up
clothes. I would buy an Amazon or, you
know, something like that. I, I only went into the store a
few times and bought clothes because I was always kind of
embarrassed about it. I did go to Atlanta and go to a
store there and bought a lot of things.
And that was, that didn't bother me because I knew I wasn't going
to run into anybody I knew. And that was kind of fun.
But most of the time I would go on like Amazon or something like
that and just, you know, order a cute dress or lingerie or
whatever and you just try it on when I had time.
But I haven't purged in quite some time.
I keep everything now when I it's done a purge, I get rid of
stuff that doesn't fit me anymore.
I think somebody else might like, like, I've given you quite
a few things for your dungeon. Yeah.
That pink Sissy dress which is just too big for me, and that
leopard skin thing which just just didn't work.
But I'm keeping my cheerleader outfit.
It actually fits. So you know, whenever I have
crossdressers come to the dungeon, I always ask them, do
you want to feel like a slutty woman or do you want to feel
like a slutty girl? You know?
So what are your thoughts? Slutty young woman I My
preference is definitely for dressing as cheerleader or
Catholic schoolgirl, but I also have other outfits.
What's the end of the black dresses?
A little more elegant look, but slutty is better for me.
That's kind. I kind of prefer that it's.
Like bubbly? Yeah.
Elegant once in a while. But like, a lot of my wigs have
pigtails just because, yeah, it feels fucking nasty to wear it.
And I like that. And some are like, you know, a
little Bob wig and that goes with like, a black dress, but
nothing too serious. And I really don't have any
casual wear. You like, we know some trans
women that, you know, that they dress like a woman, They're
comfortable. I don't have anything like that,
really. I have to go through and look.
So what do you think? Shopping spree would be fun.
Not at this point. I've got what I've got and it's
enough because it's really, it's a partial interest.
I still want to try it a little bit.
I want to try it here with you some more, but I'm pushing 50
and it's just the urge just isn't as strong as it used to
be, you know, once in a while it's the same as everything else
that I do. You know, we've done things with
pain and sometimes I'm into it, sometimes I'm not.
I just don't see the need to go out and make a huge investment.
You know, I've got a a good size collection now and I'm really,
I'd probably be thinning out instead of adding to it at this
point, but I still have several outfits that I do like.
You know, I'll wear them again. I'm part of.
I know I'll be wearing a few of them very shortly.
You know, like the e-mail I just read at the beginning of the
episode now, I don't know if he's cross dressing or not, but
he said, you know, you've got this 60 year old pegged, you
know, and he's like, we all must be pretty similar.
And you know, the thing of it is I think everyone's similar.
I think we all have our kinks. But I think that, you know, all
cross dressers, they reached that point where it's like,
that's why I want to keep doing this.
Yeah. You know.
I'm kind of there it because it's part of it is the age
thing. It still feels good to wear
certain things. I'm still going to like
pantyhose and stockings because sometimes it's just comfortable.
It feels nice. But the full dressing up it, it
can be kind of a hassle honestly.
And just the the older you get, the harder it is like right now.
So I've gained weight in my shoulders, so a lot of my
dresses aren't fitting right and it's it really pissing me off.
But I guess a lot of women get through that too though.
Oh God, yeah, 100%. And it's just one of those
things, it's like, I get rid of this.
There's two cute dresses I had because they just won't fit over
my arms anymore, you know? You know, imagine, you know,
every month, you know, for one hazard period, you know, nothing
fits, right? It's all uncomfortable.
I could see how it would piss you off.
Yeah, it is you. Had this nice dress that fit
last month and like, God damn it.
But the same point. I used to love corsets, but now
I'm like, God damn it, this thing used to fit.
God, yes, it whatever. You know, it's just one of those
things I have to shop for, one that fits better now.
Yeah. And, you know, bodies change.
You know, I'm not in my 20s. It was a lot easier to do shit,
you know, get stuff to fit. Now it's like, and I know we're
worn here last week at your house and man, that thing got
snug. I mean, it happens, you know?
Yeah, You know, we have this one guy at the party.
He comes to me. He's like, you know, I got
married and he's like, I just, I just don't want to get dressed
up anymore. I've, I've put the cross
dressing to the side. I'm like, why you enjoy it?
You know, she'll like it. She's cool with it.
And so many wives, so many women would not be cool with her
husband's dressing. No.
No, the women I dated would have been into this at all.
I had to keep it from him and I tried to introduce some of them
to just the smallest little aspects of BDSM.
I don't even get to the cross dressing and they were just put
off immediately. It's so sad.
And so I was never afraid I I was never going to be OK in a
vanilla relationship because they just were not into it.
And I have this client and I haven't seen him in probably a
year and a half and I don't know if he's still with us or not,
but he was older, he was pushing early 70s.
And he told me that he was married to his wife for almost
50 years and that he's always been a cross dresser, but he's
been extremely limited, you know, and when he can dress and
so. He had to hide it.
Yeah, so about seven or eight years ago he had, he'd started
getting stuff from online and he'd have it sent here and then
he would come here and he would make a day out of it.
Yeah, a lot of guys do do that. Yeah, and he had to wait until
his wife left town. And the saddest thing of it was
all he wanted to do was dress up in a prom dress with his opera
gloves. And, you know, he wanted to play
and have fun and, you know, put on makeup and we just had the
best time. But yeah.
But he told me, he says, you know, I'd watch my daughters go
off to prom and I would be so jealous.
I don't know, in Vegas, in New Orleans, they have these places
where they have a makeover where you can go on there and they'll
give you an outfit and a wig, you know, and the makeup, and
they can take you out for the day and charge good money for
this. Because a lot of guys are in the
same damn boat. Because you can't be yourself.
A woman can go out. Well, I think it's getting
better now, OK, At the next generation, I don't think
they're going to have to put up with this shit.
People in their 50s and 60s, they've been dealing with this
crap, especially if you live in the Deep South or, you know,
even in California. So if you're in Bakersfield,
somebody would give you shit or they would have.
I don't know about now, but but the older generation, yeah, they
had to hide this stuff because back in the day that would have
gotten you in real trouble in some places.
It's, it's getting better, but it's not, you know, it's not
there yet. It's not there yet, huh?
But you can come to places like here and you can do what you
want. And but the guys that are
married, yeah, they've got to watch your butt sometimes, you
know? And I get that because they're
wide. I just don't understand.
And I had girlfriends that I couldn't even introduce the
idea. Like one of them, God money for
her missionary was kinky. She wouldn't do anything other
than missionary. So that was a good thing we
didn't stay together based on the shit that I've gotten into.
Wow, you would have had a boring, miserable life.
Oh God, the last one was 2017 and she was the one where I
tried to push a little bit more and I finally mentioned strap
ONS and she's like, well that sounds kind of gay.
And she did not say it in a good fucking way.
And I introduced, you know, a few things too.
But see, I introduced her to anal sex because she never had
it before. And the first time I fucked her
in the ass, she came hard. So yes, she was hooked.
And then I showed her what analingus was.
She loved that for a girl who had only done missionary before
I got got a hold of her. She came a long way.
But when I mentioned the strap ONS, Rut Row headed for the
hills. Wow.
God damn it, you liked anal, you came from it.
So what the fuck can I like it? But it's that Deep South.
Mentality. God damn it, I know.
It's crazy, people. Don't realize.
She took it in the ass and I licked her butt and she came her
brains out and I also use that little magic strap on with her.
She had no objections whatsoever and she did learn to give great
head, I'll give her that. Well, good, but when it came to
kink shit, no, I tried and I just, I didn't get to the good
shit. I just started with the basics.
With the second I mentioned Peggy, that was ball game.
Wow, good God. Anyway, yeah, fuck vanilla.
Fuck vanilla. I'm not doing it teach his own.
It's not for me. Just not my cup of tea.
Yeah, it's sad. It's really sad that people have
to be like that, you know? It is what it is.
It is, and that's why I don't have any more vanilla friends,
because they just don't get it. I've got a few, I just leave
them out of it. I can't problematize everything
though. You know it.
To me it's just not any fun, you know, If I can't be myself, you
know? Well, I'm probably telling a few
family members some of the things I'm into.
And that's good that they're still supportive.
You know, brother and sister are the older ones.
I'm not telling them they can go to their graves and not know.
And I haven't told these two everything.
I've told them some of the shenanigans we get up to at the
parties. Not every single.
They don't know I'm going to be at the next one dressed as a
cheerleader. Oh, that's going to be fabulous,
right? And hot though, so I might not
be in that damn thing along. We'll see.
It's supposed. To be cooler that evening so you
never know. But you have a pool and those
fake titties of mine are flotation devices, so oh, we're
going to find out anyway. Fuck yeah.
Look at you then we'll see OK floating titties we're going to
leave it on that. That's been, that's been pretty
interesting. Yeah.
We're going to have to talk more about different things because
you've floored so much. You really have.
I have dipped my two and many ponds.
And many ponds. I like it all right.
All right. Until then, thank you for
listening. May all your fantasies become
realities.