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Hi, welcome to the latest 
episode from Mrs. Mia's Dungeon.

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I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, 
and today I have a special guest

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from you. 
This is Tishy and Tishy Tell us 

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about yourself. 
For one, I'm 46 year old, 46 

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years old biologically, my 
little age ranges from anywhere 

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from one to four, 5:00-ish 
depending on the day when I can 

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get into the into my headspace 
and stuff like that. 

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Basically up in Northeast Ohio 
area and been in the lifestyle 

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for probably close to close to 
20 years now. 

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OK. 
And as far as into the the age 

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play side of things. 
So do you consider yourself just

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an into age play itself or into 
ABDL? 

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To me it's it's all the same, 
the ABDL part of it. 

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I'm actually more AB as far as 
the adult baby side of it. 

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There is some aspects of the DL 
side that that I find fit me as 

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well. 
But as far as anything, I live 

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the lifestyle when I can. 
You know, we're all adults in 

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in, in the kink world, you know,
and I try to represent that. 

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At least we try to be. 
Yes, we try to be that. 

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That is true. 
Yeah, so you have a a dungeon 

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where you're at and you said 
they specifically have a littles

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room that caters to you. 
Yes, back the the play space 

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that I, that I, that I play at a
lot when they when they were 

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first opening, they actually 
reached out to my littles group 

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here that I belong to and 
actually asked for input from 

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the littles community to 
actually help set up the room to

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make it more comfortable for the
actual littles in the community 

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and stuff like that. 
They pride their self on being a

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safe space for everybody in the 
kink community. 

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So we have a local group here as
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And, you know, he was saying 
that, you know, a lot of my my 

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parties that we host, you know, 
they're very sex positive. 

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And he said that a lot of the 
adult babies, they, they don't 

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find them very appealing simply 
because they're more asexual. 

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Do you find that to be true? 
Yes, and actually that is 

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actually a big debate. 
It's actually in the ABDL 

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community whether you know it's 
a sexual thing or not sexual 

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thing. 
This the the dungeon that I 

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belong to is a sex positive 
space as well. 

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So yes, you know, on any given 
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littles last night, we actually 
only had one little running 

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around in the dungeon last 
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I personally don't usually with 
during the play parties I'm a 

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lot more than just a little. 
So I'm usually not in little 

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space when I'm at the dungeon, 
but it's nice to know that if I 

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do fall into that space, like 
coming out of subspace or 

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something like that, I there's 
been tendencies for me to fall 

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into little space. 
From there, I have that option 

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to have go into a room that's 
dedicated to where I can nurture

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that side of myself. 
You know, to me it seems so 

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cathartic for so many people. 
I had a a young man, he comes to

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see me often and he is just a 
little doll. 

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He's so precious, so sweet. 
You know, he's a 24 year old 

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little virgin and you know, 
there's certain aspects where 

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I've asked him, you know, and 
he's we're we're actually going 

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to bring that up to a different 
episode as well about his 

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feelings and thoughts on adult 
baby. 

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But what kind of LED you down 
that path? 

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At what age were you trying to 
identify with an age play role? 

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It's crazy getting involved in 
in the saying. 

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I personally it was due to 
medical issues with me. 

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I was in a go Kart accent when I
was 1414 and 15 ish. 

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So for me at that point I had 
this I was having to wear at 

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night, I was having nighttime 
accidents. 

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Didn't understand why. 
I kind of hid it from my 

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parents, from everybody I knew 
until I moved out when I was 19,

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I think was when I moved out and
got my own place and stuff like 

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that. 
And then I started getting 

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deeper into the Internet and I 
started realizing that there's 

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people out there that are in 
similar situations as me. 

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You know, I was always under the
stigma that, you know, diapers 

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for for adults were, were for 
older people, you know, the 

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elderly and stuff like that. 
But I realized that there was 

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other people like me that that 
had medical conditions that 

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still had to wear or, and then I
found that there were people out

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there that just enjoyed it and, 
and they found comfort in it. 

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And as the time grew on or went 
on, I began to realize that when

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I was wearing, I was more 
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You know, I didn't have to worry
about, OK, where's the bathroom 

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or stuff like that. 
So it became, I became more on 

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the DL side of things to start 
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Later in my 20s is when I was 
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of things. 
I don't know if you have ever 

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heard of it. 
It was called Diaperspace was it

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was the site that used to be 
around that I became part of 

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where I met a former mommy of 
mine. 

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You know that you know, she she 
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that. 
And that's how I got introduced 

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to the AB side of. 
Things. 

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That's awesome. 
And then it it just kind of 

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snowballed from there. 
It always seems to snowball, 

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doesn't it? 
Oh, and that that's with 

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anything it. 
Is it's with anything, 

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especially when you're in some 
type of kink element into your 

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life and it can be so, so 
fulfilling. 

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It is like I said, without this 
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where I would be, not only the 
AB community, but with just the 

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kinken community in general. 
Like I was saying, I am more 

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than just into the ABDL side of 
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I am sadomasochist. 
I, I love the, you know, both 

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being on the receiving and 
giving side of, you know, impact

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play, Violet wand play, wax 
play, fire play on the receiving

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and the needle play. 
I haven't learned, I haven't 

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dabbled into learning needle 
play yet, but that's on my 

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that's on my next list. 
You sound like a fun girl. 

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I. 
Try. 

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I try to be. 
I try to be. 

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I love the versatility. 
So you like to get spanked 

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wearing a diaper? 
Actually, no, I don't. 

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When it comes to spanking and 
stuff like that in little space,

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I, I, I hate it. 
I am absolutely terrified of it.

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I don't know. 
But when it comes to like the 

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impact scene and stuff like 
that, spanking is OK. 

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I don't get where that came 
from, but you know, I tend to 

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not get too many spankings when 
in little space anyhow because 

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I'm a good girl. 
Where she was. 

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Comes to that. 
That's awesome. 

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Everybody tries to say that I'm 
not, but I really AM. 

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Well, see, you got those cute 
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I can't imagine why you'd be a 
bad girl. 

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So so so tishy. 
Are you currently single? 

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Are you in a relationship? 
I am currently single. 

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I have been single for about 3 
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I am actually talking to a 
potential daddy. 

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We haven't actually met yet but 
he's someone fairly localish. 

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Hopefully things work out, but 
my last relationship I had kind 

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of shelved my little side 'cause
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three years that we were 
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So. 
So this past three years has 

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been really trying to re engage 
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more back familiar with her and 
try to get coax her out more. 

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Which is difficult considering 
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I do have an adult life, 
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Unfortunately. 
I can't. 

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I can't live at 24/7. 
But I also have two kids though 

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too, so that also complicates 
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Those darn kids. 
You know, I wouldn't change a 

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thing in the world. 
I love my kids to death. 

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And fortunately they both, they 
both know about me and that I am

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transitioning. 
So then that went really well. 

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Actually. 
The oldest took it a little 

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harder, but they didn't. 
They didn't like disown me or 

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not talk to me anymore or 
anything like that where you 

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hear a lot of stories of kids or
parents or whatever basically 

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disowning somebody for coming 
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Yeah, it's sad. 
Well, it sounds like you're very

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fortunate with all of that, so. 
I have been, I have been very 

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blessed with when it comes to 
coming out, even with my family,

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not just my kids, There is some 
resistance a little bit, I mean,

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nobody's flat out, you know, 
disowned me or anything like 

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that. 
But for the most part, it's 

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been, I have had, knock on wood 
a a very fortunate experience 

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when when it comes to that, that
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That's awesome. 
That is. 

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So do you find it that you can 
date anyone in like the vanilla 

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lifestyle or do you know, do you
specifically look for people in 

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there? 
OK, you already answered that 

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question. 
I see even when I tried to look 

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outside of the kink world, I 
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with my with my last, with my 
last marriage, you know, my last

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divorce, which was 10 years plus
ago, that I can't hide any part 

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of me for in order for me to be 
happy, I have to be out. 

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I have to be. 
I can't shelter or hide or close

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off any part of me. 
And unfortunately that does 

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require me to say it, you know, 
not only about the diaper issue 

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because I'm incontinent, you 
know, and I have to wear at 

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night, but I am very active in 
the King lifestyle, in King 

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community. 
I am financial investor in the 

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local club here. 
I am actually on the board of 

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the local club that meets there 
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I'm very invested in the 
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community here in in Northeast 
Ohio. 

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That's awesome. 
That's super. 

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We had a gentleman who came down
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events and you know, we were 
talking about who who we know in

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Ohio. 
So now I have you to add to the.

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List. 
Yes, you do. 

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You know, in past interviews I 
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I don't know if it's, I haven't 
seen her. 

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I, I mean, I've been, I, I, I, I
see them, there's stuff on the 

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set life all the time and stuff 
like that. 

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So, and actually the the 
interview that you did with her 

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is actually what made me contact
you and, and stuff like that. 

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That's so great. 
She's such a beautiful soul. 

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She's just absolutely incredible
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She really is. 
I told her from what I yeah, 

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she's in South Florida. 
I told her. 

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I said you got to make it up 
here. 

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I got to meet you. 
But you know, she has this, you 

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know, she's got children, 
obviously. 

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You know, she's she's, I believe
she's in her early 40s. 

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But you know, she's married to 
her husband, who is her adult 

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baby. 
And, you know, they share an 

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absolute beautiful relationship.
They. 

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Do. 
They really do. 

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And that's something to cherish.
Unfortunately, you know, 

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fortunately for them, 
unfortunately for a lot of 

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people in this community, they 
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You know, it is so hard to it is
so hard to find that connection 

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in this community because the 
the proportions are so out 

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balanced versus caregivers for 
to littles. 

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You know, you know, I struggle, 
you know, that's one of the 

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things that I did struggle with 
for a while is will I ever feel 

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accepted? 
Will I ever feel loved? 

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Will I ever find that that 
caregiver that I that I desire 

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and I still do to this day. 
You know, like I said, I am 

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talking to to a potential at the
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So hopefully that'll that'll 
work out and stuff like that. 

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But you know, only time will 
tell with that. 

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So is there more littles there 
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Oh by far. 
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the the the littles outweigh the
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if not more if not a greater 
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My my local group LEAP or Lake 
Erie Age Players is as was 

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started back in 2013. 
It was formerly Cleveland's 

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Little Toy Box, which we at some
point there I was running that 

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by myself. 
There was some things that got 

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brought up. 
So we decided to form a board 

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and when we decided, when we did
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the Littles group, we decided to
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So we renamed it to Leap. 
We do right now it's been 

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quarterly parties, play parties 
which are held at a local, at 

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the local dungeon which we bring
in or we're getting anywhere 

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from 4045 people or littles to 
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event, you know, and I would say
probably 99% are littles when it

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comes to the Wow. 
Well, that's awesome still. 

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I mean, you know, that you can 
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great community. 
It's always such a positive 

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thing. 
You know, it is, it is one of my

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friends is a, is a daddy in the 
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And, you know, we've, we've 
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a lot of people, like you said, 
it's still a stigma for a lot of

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people. 
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was summed up very, very well by
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when he said, you know, at the 
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care. 
And I was like, you know, there 

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you go. 
You know, it doesn't matter the 

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king it is, you know, it's being
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compassion and, you know, just 
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You know, no matter the case, 
'cause you're not hurting 

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anyone, you know? 
A diaper change doesn't hurt 

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that we know one of our No, 
you're absolutely right. 

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There's so many more things that
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would be so much more 
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Exactly. 
So their well-being than the 

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regressing or to the age play or
diapers or whatever. 

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Even if you know the king 
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can you could turn to drugs, you
could turn to alcohol. 

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You know those things will hurt 
you, possibly kill you. 

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You know, regression. 
It's not going to kill you. 

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I mean it it's it's a way to 
escape reality. 

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Really it is. 
And that's why I look. 

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At it. 
Without the drugs, yes. 

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You're absolutely right. 
That's great. 

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So where do you see yourself in 
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everything? 
That's a hard question. 

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I mean, I'm no matter what, I'm 
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community. 
Like I said, I have found my 

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home. 
I have found my calling and I 

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consider my king family, my my 
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they're my chosen family. 
The as a matter of fact, the one

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the song is one of my anthems 
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because I heard that recently 
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You know, blood may be thicker 
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consistent in my opinion. 
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You know, I know I, if I'm 
having a bad day, I can, I can 

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pull up my phone and message 
2030 people and, and you know, 

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be fine Whether and I do that 
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I'm going to get a response. 
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You know, half my family is 
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States. 
And then, yeah, you here. 

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You have your kink community and
they embrace you. 

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Yes, very much so. 
That's great. 

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So is there anything that you 
would tell someone that was like

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you and the ABDL community that 
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the door or dip their toe in the
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Don't be afraid, OK? 
It, it maybe it, it's a scary 

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world to, to, to step outside 
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But everybody's been there 
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in the AB lifestyle, ABDL 
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there before. 
You know, I was there once going

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to my first munch, first 
meeting, you know, get out there

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and put yourself out there, meet
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You're not alone. 
There are plenty of others that 

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are out there out here that do 
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are. 
And that goes with anything, not

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just the ABDL side of things. 
You know, that goes for for the,

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the impact side of things or the
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you know, just in general. 
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you know, these days that, you 
know, if it's not illegal, what 

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harm is it? 
Exactly you. 

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Know and and as long as you you 
know boundaries and know how to 

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respect people, then that's all 
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You know, consent is key to 
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Consent and communication. 
Very much so, and. 

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And one of the things, you know,
for me, you know, when, when we 

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get new littles coming to the 
other group or messaging in our 

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group and stuff like that. 
I, I've always wanted to offer 

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if they want to meet, you know, 
one-on-one to get a, a, to be 

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able to put a name to a face or 
have a face that, that they can 

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recognize when they come to one 
of the bigger events and stuff 

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like that. 
So that they have a little bit 

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of familiarity when they do show
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Because I didn't have that. 
My first event was blind. 

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I walked into it, you know, Oh 
God, am I, you know, what am I 

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doing? 
I think, I think I actually sat 

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in my car for an extra 10 to 15 
minutes before I actually went 

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in and got the courage to go in 
on my first one. 

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So. 
Well, good for you. 

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You took that step and now here 
you are. 

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Yeah, yes, that's awesome. 
Very much so. 

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It's been, it's been a long 
journey, but I I wouldn't change

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it for a little world. 
That's super well, Tishy, thank 

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you so much for joining us. 
And we certainly appreciate, you

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know, telling, telling us your 
story. 

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It's it's so important. 
Not a problem and and if anybody

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ever wants to reach out to me, 
you know, I am tishy on fetlife.

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My message box is always open. 
I don't close my message box, 

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you know and it like I said and 
that goes with anything for the 

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the the king community. 
You know like I said, I'm I'm 

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mainly an ABDL, but I am also a 
masochist. 

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I'm also into the, the BDSM 
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I newly trans myself, you know, 
I've been out for eight years 

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and plus to my friends, but I 
just recently took the plunge 

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and actually started on my HRT 
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So I'm, I'm in the community. 
I have, you know, I I'm here to 

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support others, not just myself.
That's super. 

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That's that's just a fabulous 
way to look at it. 

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It really is. 
But thank you again and I, we 

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look forward to speaking with 
you again in the future. 

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All right. 
I would love to all. 

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Right. 
Thank you.