1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,320 Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me Mistress. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,880 I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia and I have my Co host over here. 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,720 I've got Madame Liv. Hey freaks. 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,000 Oh, that's a definite opening statement there. 5 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:25,840 Such a good greeting. So, Liv, I have a an interesting 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,600 little e-mail. I thought it was sweet. 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,920 He writes his his thing is Mimi. God. 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,120 OK, his e-mail, you know, I don't know. 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,760 He didn't even you know. Sometimes we've seen. 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,360 No, no one we've seen this is somebody else. 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,160 OK. His name is Joey. 12 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:46,320 Coincidentally, we know Joey. It says, hey, how are you? 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,600 My name is Joey, I'm 20 years old. 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,720 I'm a huge fan of your podcast and I listen to it all the time. 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,960 It turns me on so much. I'm a sub but because of my 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,240 religion and other stuff, unfortunately I can't really do 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,480 anything because it won't be good for me apparently. 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,880 So at least your podcast gives me that feeling of being a slave 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,040 and being able to worship a mistress somewhat. 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,400 I wish I could meet you guys one time. 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,760 Can you please write back? It would mean the world to me 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,200 so. That he can't live through it. 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,480 That's the worst is when something holds you back and it 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,080 be religion, no? Shit. 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,240 Because he really feels like, you know, like it'll be the 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,000 death of him if he actually steps into it. 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,160 But honestly, it's it's not. It's like more of an awakening. 28 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,800 Yeah, you should just. I mean, you're 20. 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,960 Go for it. You know and and 20 is so young, 30 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:35,200 but at the same time you know what you want at 20. 31 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:38,880 Not really, it's more of experimenting at 20. 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,280 Do you figuring out what you want? 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,000 Yeah, 'cause when I was 20 I wanted like 5 kids, you know 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,440 what I mean? Like we all change. 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,840 Yeah, yeah, I, I get it. Yeah, I, I'm just talking like, 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,600 you know, at 20, I think you already have a concept as to 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,840 what you enjoy sexually. Yes, yeah. 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,760 Not like the fact you wanted five kids, you fucking weirdo. 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,440 I'm just saying, like, things do change, but yeah, yeah, 'cause 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,600 you can have awakenings at different times of your life, 41 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,560 but yeah, I mean, it's not gonna change for you. 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,720 You're just, I mean, if you can live through it, through this, 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,080 I'm very happy that we can be through that, at least this 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,400 little bitty way. Well. 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,000 You know, you did a a session the other day and he never minds 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,560 if I bring him his name up and that's Storm. 47 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,640 And you did a session with Storm. 48 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:25,520 So how did it go? Would you think of it? 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,760 Well, I honestly want to know how he thought about it, but I 50 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,920 feel like I was able to play into my full role pretty 51 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:36,200 quickly, able to get into headspace really easily. 52 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,480 I played very sensual. He likes CBT, which I love to do 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,360 CBT. I don't know why. 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,480 Maybe it's the inner woman in me. 55 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,560 Yes. Dick. 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,320 Now I will say again, at the dinner table the other night in 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,720 front of my 84 year old mother, you said yeah, I'm really 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,520 starting to get into CBT. Now granted, I think at this 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,120 point she might even know what that means, but I was like 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,920 please shut the fuck up. Look, sometimes she's OK with us 61 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:07,720 talking. I don't know what she's OK with. 62 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,520 I know sometimes she's OK, I think. 63 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,920 She's OK in certain moods, it's gonna be a mood. 64 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,760 And talking about like crossdressers and things like 65 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,280 that. She likes the funny ones, I 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,560 think, so she doesn't like the the ones that do we do other 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,600 things with, I guess. Yeah, 'cause I was talking about 68 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,200 the humbler and all I said was I unscrewed one with my tongue and 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,120 it's upset her. Yeah, it's like, how did she 70 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,480 know anything about the humbler? But that's got nothing to do 71 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,960 with like my my mouth wasn't near anybody. 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,200 I'm just unscrewing up my tongue 'cause my hands are full. 73 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,920 She's obviously thinking the worst. 74 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,240 Your mouth was inches within somebodies Dick and balls, you 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,840 know it. Wasn't on it though. 76 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,360 That's too funny. So. 77 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600 So you were doing the the session with Storm? 78 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,520 How did it start? OK, it started with us putting 79 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,760 him in the back bed. And honestly, you were talking 80 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,880 about putting me in the back bed. 81 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,320 And he he kind of made me feel like because he said that his 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,960 mouth hole ran away from him. And I was like, I got to go in 83 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,880 there and figure out what he's talking about to be able to 84 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,440 maybe position people where they don't get that, that feeling of 85 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,720 feeling like they can't breathe. OK, let's clarify this. 86 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,079 Yeah, because so is Storm. Storm has anxiety issues. 87 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:20,959 OK, people who want to go in the vac bed, they genuinely really 88 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:25,400 want to go in the vac bed. Storm was doing it as hey, I'll 89 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,400 try it. He wanted to go back in at the 90 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,320 end, did he? Yeah, he was. 91 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,320 He was starting to feel it again. 92 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,320 He was like, you know what? I kind of want to go back in, 93 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,720 but I'm kind of like, he's kind of like, I'll probably try again 94 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,880 next time. So the thing with the whole 95 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,800 thing on the vac bed is it's a frame, you know, it's it's only 96 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,200 all right. So explain to people the vac bed 97 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,720 is this, it's, it's over. I think, I think it's like 66 98 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,440 foot three to five inches, give or take in length. 99 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,720 And obviously it's pretty wide, obviously for a plus size 100 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,200 person, but Storm is like 6-2. And so, you know, I had a guy in 101 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,840 there last night and he's 5/8 and you still have to bend your 102 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:05,440 knees a little bit when you're in that frame. 103 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,360 So, you know, when I explained to Storm before he went in, I 104 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,720 said, you know, it's got a little mouth hole and the mouth 105 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,520 hole is only 1/2 inch in diameter. 106 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,080 And then it has a, the penis hole. 107 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,720 And I told him, I said, you know, don't worry about your 108 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,200 penis. You know, nothing's going to 109 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,800 happen to that. So, you know, you have your 110 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,960 breathe, your breathe hole. And so when he was getting 111 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,040 sucked up, he's in there, it's pressing against his face and 112 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,240 all he sees is that hole and he can't see it anymore, you know, 113 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,720 So then it's like everything's being sucked up and it's like, 114 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,280 look, there's gaps of space between your face and the sheet 115 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:41,800 and you know, your face and the hole. 116 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,400 So, you know, it's like the hole was there. 117 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:46,840 It was near mouth. He wasn't going. 118 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,440 To which I think that's, that was just his thing probably. 119 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,640 But he, he wanted to get back in at the end. 120 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,160 Yeah. Which I thought was cool because 121 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,360 he was. He always worries people, you 122 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,240 know? Yeah. 123 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,440 Oh, 100%. And like I said, you know, it 124 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,760 was just the fact that he tried, he made the attempt, he went in. 125 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,280 You know, that says a lot because a lot of people are just 126 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:11,200 too scared to even try it. But you know, we, we said to 127 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,080 him, Hey, you know, it's fine, we're going to go in. 128 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,040 And I explained to him, Hey, this is what's going to happen. 129 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,160 You know you're going to go in and we're going to do the 130 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,760 suction and it's. Only going to be a couple 131 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,920 seconds. Yeah, and I'll turn it back off 132 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,320 and blah, blah, blah. And that's it. 133 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,360 But you know, people go in there. 134 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,440 Like I said, this gentleman was in there last night. 135 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,240 He was in there for two hours. You know, he comes to see me 136 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,240 once a month, give or take. And you know, he's in there and 137 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,880 he fucking loves it. He stays in there for two hours. 138 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,720 As long as they have ear protection, you know, it's good. 139 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,760 You know, now we were saying to puppy, hey, we were a little 140 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,400 concerned with you having the, you know, the choice to even go 141 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,480 into the back bed just because he's had eye surgery and you 142 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,920 know, you don't want pressure on somebody's eyes or anything to 143 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:55,960 that effect. But you know. 144 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,800 I'm sure he would want to get into it too. 145 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,840 Yeah, he would love to, but I think it would just play too 146 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:02,920 much of A risk, you know, because he's had repeated eye 147 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,840 surgeries and everything. And it does, you know, my 148 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:10,840 husband when it the other night and he's like, honey, it's just 149 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,040 pulling all my snot out of my head. 150 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,840 So you could imagine it pulling snot out, you know, It could 151 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,800 just pop your eyeball out, you know? 152 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:27,360 Don't scare me like that. So anywho, so continue telling 153 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,080 us about the whole session. Well, when we started, we 154 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,880 started out very light like I always do, just worked my way up 155 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,000 until I felt like I hit kind of like where he was like wincing. 156 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,760 And then I I stayed on that for a minute and then we moved to 157 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,440 CBT, which he didn't want to do sounding. 158 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,720 He didn't want to do anything anal play, but got to use a lot 159 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,160 of like sharp objects on it. And I don't know, I've had a lot 160 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,720 of CBT and usually they're always dripping during the CBT. 161 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,720 But if when it hurt worse and I could tell like he would drip 162 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,280 more. So I knew exactly what he he, 163 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,520 what would hurt him and what felt great to him. 164 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,720 So I was sticking with those things and then I would stop. 165 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,920 Then I'd move to something else, then come back to it like I felt 166 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,840 like I was able to be. It was two hours. 167 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,520 So I think 2 hours is like the perfect time to kind of like 168 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,160 dabble in what he likes and then move to a different thing. 169 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Dabble. It's almost like a tease and 170 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,040 denial with what he wants. I would do what he wanted and 171 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,560 then I would move away from the subject, do what he wanted, move 172 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,520 away from the subject. And I think it was really cool 173 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,160 and he really liked it. Well, that's. 174 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,200 Good, Yeah, he doesn't realize he's a big old pain slut at 175 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,200 times. I. 176 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,559 Think he knew he was telling me that he could handle a lot. 177 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,240 Yeah, yeah, he can. It's crazy because the scenes 178 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,120 that I've seen him do has been like crazy intense at times. 179 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,840 So it's amazing where your mind can go in that situation. 180 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,480 When you're in your subspace, you can handle a lot more than 181 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,400 what you think you can. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. 182 00:08:54,400 --> 00:09:01,200 And it can be really intense. So that brings me up to a few 183 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,160 minutes ago you said I love consent, non consent. 184 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,800 Yeah, that's fun. Of course, with a trusted 185 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,760 partner of. Course, yes, so there's a 186 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,880 different lists of different BDSM and, and what people like 187 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,360 and that kind of thing. And it said and I've read this 188 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,240 before that nearly 40% of women and 60% of men have fantasized 189 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,880 about being dominated or dominating someone. 190 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,400 So what does that really say is that? 191 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,960 A primal. Yeah, and most people freaking 192 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,200 want BDSM. Yeah, they just don't realize 193 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,600 that's what it is. Yeah, because when they think 194 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,280 BDSM, they think pain, they think ropes, they think extreme. 195 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,360 They do, you know, it's not, it's you can be a sensual. 196 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,760 I mean, even ropes, I think ropes can be very like almost 197 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,840 beautiful if you do it right. Absolutely. 198 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,480 You know so. It's like you don't have it 199 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,680 doesn't have to be a scary thing. 200 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,520 Yeah, yeah, there's different types of rope techniques from 201 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,320 Japan, different things like that. 202 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,680 But you're right, it's beautiful. 203 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:02,800 There's a lot of things to it, but it's so fucking. 204 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,320 Tedious. Oh yeah, that's a long play. 205 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,680 It really is. You're like, fuck, it's long. 206 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,520 That's true. So you were talking about 207 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,760 sensual domination, and that was something that Storm wanted, 208 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,440 correct? Yes, yes. 209 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,360 Well, I don't know if he likes it at all. 210 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,520 I think he just wanted to try a central domination or that he 211 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,520 likes it. So you wanted to try it with me? 212 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,560 When people correlate sensual domination, they think of, you 213 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:34,840 know, temperature from like wax play textures, you know, fur. 214 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,280 Like I saw like it literally like a softer play. 215 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,000 Yes, yes. So there's different types of 216 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,160 things that you know people could do and you know, giving 217 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,720 people ideas. I know we have we have some 218 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,240 rabbit fur in the dungeon. You know people always like that 219 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,680 to be have that rabbit fur rubbed on them. 220 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:55,480 Especially after bathing. Beaten really hard, right? 221 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,320 It's almost like a hug. It's almost like. 222 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,080 Refreshing, like, oh thank God I got something nice, you know? 223 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:03,720 So what else did you do with Storm? 224 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,880 I did a lot of like rubbing on his body and rubbing on his face 225 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,160 and head and I would like yank him a little bit to make him do 226 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,880 something and then I would smack him. 227 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,440 Yeah. Like it would be like, like he 228 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,560 thought that he was going to get something nice and then they 229 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:20,200 would be not. Or then he would think that he's 230 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,040 getting something mean and then it would not to kind of like 231 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,040 throw him off sometimes. But it was more about like 232 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,760 playing with different parts of his bodies, like the, the the 233 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,680 soles of his hands or the palms of his his hands. 234 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,200 Yeah, use that a lot. Like touching it or making him 235 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,080 touch my face in the middle of him closing his eyes. 236 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,080 He doesn't know what he's touching, so he'll end up 237 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,840 touching my chin. And he was just like, like his 238 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,640 body would start shaking. Wow. 239 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Just just being able to touch the chin and how soft it is. 240 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,600 It was just like, I walk past him and his arms are all like, 241 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:54,400 like he's on the cross and then I just put my chin on his hand. 242 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:56,200 Wow and. Then moved away. 243 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,960 So he was being like, he was like this. 244 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,600 Moving on his way pulled. Away from it and it was really, 245 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,840 I don't know, it felt like very a different kind of intense 246 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,240 because it was intense. But it was not like pain 247 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,840 intense. Yeah, it was intense of like all 248 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,480 the feelings. Yeah, it's almost like a 249 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,440 connective play to see you like how you move and you you move 250 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,520 and project your arms and your hands out. 251 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,200 Yeah, I could see it's like a connective touching. 252 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,920 Yeah, that's awesome. So he he liked it. 253 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,040 That's awesome. I think that's very cool. 254 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:29,760 So you know you've done BDSM for a number of years yourself. 255 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,760 Is there something specific you think you know? 256 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,080 When I think of couples, for example, you have not got to 257 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,240 dominate a couple yet in the dungeon. 258 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:44,400 Not as a both of them, no. Yeah, but you've dominated women 259 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,600 before. Yeah. 260 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,800 So so so so. Yeah, 'cause I, I'm, whenever 261 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,800 it's more play, I'm more of a dominating them. 262 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,440 I'm I'm the top whenever I'm with a girl. 263 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,760 You know, I've had my one friend. 264 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,280 He's in Chicago. His name's Joe. 265 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:03,040 We've never physically met. We've known each other and have 266 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,880 spoken to one another for 20 years. 267 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,280 Pen pals. Yeah, exactly. 268 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,560 And so he's really funny because, you know, he's always 269 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:15,520 been dominant in his life through everything. 270 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,680 And so for him to relinquish any control, he's always told me 271 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:23,000 he's like, you know, you're the only one who I will ever let do 272 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,800 that to me. And I said, well, you know, 273 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,360 maybe one day, one day, you know, he's like, but I got to be 274 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,680 able to fuck you. And I was like, yeah, no, no, 275 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,360 not going to fuck me. You know, I might suck your Dick 276 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,160 but. Yeah. 277 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,880 But, you know, so he's asked me, you know, what are some things 278 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,960 that he could do with his girlfriends, you know, that he's 279 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,400 intimate with? To like bring in the BDSM. 280 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,840 To BD exactly to bring in BDSM. A lot of it has to do with rules 281 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,640 and setting rules and setting like lines. 282 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,040 Draw lines like a box around her. 283 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,840 Say if you step out of this box, here's your consequence. 284 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,440 Always got to have a good consequence and a bad 285 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,600 consequence if she does right? You give her something nice like 286 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:04,600 you. You make her come. 287 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,640 She doesn't do it. Then you make yourself come with 288 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,520 somebody else, and then she sits there and watch, you know, like. 289 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,680 You're bringing that third person in. 290 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,000 Yeah, well, it's like it bring, it brings in a sort of like 291 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,920 jealousy and like, oh, I did wrong and I don't want this to 292 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,720 happen again, you know what I mean? 293 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,240 But I also like it at the same time. 294 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,520 Like I like watching you please yourself with somebody else. 295 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,600 But it also, like, I wish I was the one to do that. 296 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,680 Yeah. So it's like just good 297 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,480 consequences and bad consequences. 298 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,160 And you can always find them online to do for like 299 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,760 punishments because sometimes people get a little bit lost in 300 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,760 like what they can do to use to punish somebody because you can 301 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,280 punish somebody long distance too. 302 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,520 Yeah, so anyway, so I told my friend Joe, you know, using 303 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,680 things at home and you're, you're talking about, you know, 304 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,120 punishment, setting up rules and things like that. 305 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,400 You know, I was telling him, hey, make her go into the 306 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,800 refrigerator and get all the things that she can put inside 307 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,120 of her pussy. I mean that is something. 308 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,520 Right. You know, it's like, just try to 309 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,160 be resourceful. And, you know, I've told people 310 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,320 a lot over the years. I was like, you know what? 311 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,240 Take your submissive out to the garage, put a chain somewhere 312 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,200 from the ceiling, suspend it, put their arms up and just go to 313 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,360 town. You know, have them do forced 314 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,560 orgasms, make them get spanked, you know, make them do these 315 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,040 things. And, you know, you just got to 316 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,760 be resourceful. And ball gag them. 317 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,600 Yeah, you can do that with a sock. 318 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,240 Yeah, sock duct tape, you know, be creative, A. 319 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,480 Lot of things is taking away 2 senses. 320 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,800 Yes. Take away 2 senses like eyes, 321 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,200 ears, things like that and then it heightens the sensations of 322 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:43,760 other. Things. 323 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,560 Absolutely. Yeah. 324 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,760 You know, it's like when you you had the deaf guy in here the 325 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,680 other day. I know that was. 326 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,720 He fucking loved it. He did. 327 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,520 He loved it. Didn't hear about his response. 328 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,760 Yeah, he just actually messaged me over the weekend. 329 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,480 He loved it. Well, I'm glad. 330 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,280 Yeah, he said. You know, the whole concept of 331 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,400 sensory deprivation, it adds so much to it. 332 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, he can't 333 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,120 hear, but he wanted, he couldn't really speak either. 334 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,160 Yeah. Which was, you know, you know, 335 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,320 just have to work around that, figure out the different ways to 336 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,240 be able to communicate. Especially since he wanted to be 337 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,760 ball gagged, but I couldn't. I've seen him anyway, so yeah, 338 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,520 it wouldn't have mattered. But yeah, taking away his sight 339 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,360 probably would have been more intense for him. 340 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,280 But I think, I don't think I was ready for that. 341 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,080 I wanted him to feel safe. Yeah. 342 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,000 He doesn't know me that well. Yeah, yeah. 343 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,840 It's amazing. You know, people come in, you 344 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,080 know, having this trust with us, and then there's others who they 345 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,920 don't even trust us at all. But we'll talk about that in the 346 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:41,520 next episode. But for now, I will say that, 347 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,520 you know, I've dominated a lot of couples over the years. 348 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,200 And I'm actually thinking about doing a class soon because I've 349 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,800 done that before with couples. And I tried to do an 350 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,280 introduction to BDSM with couples and how they can do 351 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,720 things and what they need to do. And, you know, and the biggest 352 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,280 thing is, like you said, setting rules, listening to one another, 353 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,440 you know? It does bring in a whole new 354 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,280 communication, which is really just healthy for the 355 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,520 relationship. BDSM is so good in so many 356 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,240 different ways. Yeah, it really is. 357 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,160 Individually and as couples. Yeah, it really is. 358 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,119 I saw a couple last year and the funniest thing was, you know, 359 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,720 everyone's hurt her with a Hitachi wand, you know? 360 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,240 You know, it's the the basic massager and it's like 14 inches 361 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,240 long, you know, And you know, it's very useful. 362 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,360 It's got, you know, vibration settings, etcetera on it. 363 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:34,600 And so when I brought the one we have in the dungeon out, the 364 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,280 husband's like, she always brings that out, you know, and I 365 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,840 said, OK, has she used it on you before? 366 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,160 He's like, no, why would she? And I said, well, you know, a 367 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,280 Dick is just like a clit. And he's like, get out of here. 368 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,080 I'm like just saying. So I gave it to his wife and I 369 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,160 said rub it on his Dick. And when that happened, he was 370 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,480 shocked. Wow. 371 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,200 Absolutely shocked. And he came. 372 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:04,120 He had a fucking orgasm. Buyer, right? 373 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:06,640 Of course, yeah. I'm glad that they were able to 374 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,040 open their mind a little bit because especially with him 375 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,360 being so reluctant when he saw it right? 376 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,520 And he's like, Oh my God, I didn't know he used 2. 377 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,720 Now they get to have a little bit more different kind of fun. 378 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:20,280 So I've seen this one one gentleman who comes to the 379 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,000 dungeon and like I said, he sees me about once a month, but he 380 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000 loves the vac bed. He gets in the vac bed. 381 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,520 And you know, I do like tease and denial. 382 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:30,680 I do different things, you know, I do impact, I do different 383 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,160 things with him since replay when he's in there. 384 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,040 And so interestingly enough, I've never done sounding rods on 385 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:42,560 him, but he has an interest cock because the top, the head of his 386 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:48,240 Dick is like just super big and even like like the the entrance 387 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,840 going into his urethra is big. Yeah, it's like the size of an 388 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,160 index finger. Big. 389 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,120 Just the top. Though just the top. 390 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:57,760 No, the rest of the penis is average size. 391 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,640 You know, it's like he's like 6 inches. 392 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,560 Well, isn't that ideal? Big head. 393 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Yeah, an average body is a wow. Nice Dick right there. 394 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,040 It's nice. And, and that's what I said and 395 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:12,160 'cause you know, I told him, I said, you know, I, you're, you 396 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,160 always have, like, you always look good, but it's like, you 397 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,160 know, I, I love your Dick and he's like, well, thanks. 398 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,920 It really embarrasses me, you know? 399 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,440 He's what? Yeah. 400 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,480 He's like, you always say that, but I'm I'm not impressed with 401 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,520 it. Like the big heads, like in the 402 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,360 small bodies, That's literally what I mean. 403 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:29,960 That's what the head is literally for. 404 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,080 You have the biggest, that's great. 405 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:34,280 It's great because then you get to fill all the fills. 406 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,600 I see I. Posted a picture of it on fat 407 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,880 from last night, but I didn't get like an up close picture of 408 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,880 his Dick. But it's like it's an ideal 409 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,440 Dick, you know? And so Charles, he'd given us 410 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,480 this massager, this new massager. 411 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,680 It's the back massager thing and it has those the attachment with 412 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,000 the two prongs I. Know what you're talking? 413 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,400 About right. So last night I used that. 414 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,760 And so his Dick is a little too fat for the prongs to go all the 415 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,720 way down. Like especially at the top. 416 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,520 So I thought, oh, I'm gonna take the one of the prongs and stick 417 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,800 it in the head. Oh wow. 418 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,640 Like at the entrance of his urethra. 419 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,720 And let me tell you, he fucking loved that shit. 420 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,040 I bet he loved it. So I was doing that. 421 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,000 I was jacking him at the same time. 422 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,080 He fucking loved it. It was a great time. 423 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,800 So my thing of it is, be fucking resourceful. 424 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Yes, yes, innovative. Be innovative and resourceful. 425 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:30,960 Exactly 'cause you can always find things like a Ruby has a 426 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,280 guitar string. Yeah, who the fuck think about 427 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,200 beating somebody with a fucking guitar string? 428 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,760 Well she uses for CBT like wraps around their Dick and like jacks 429 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:39,560 them off with it. Oh, I've. 430 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,360 Seen her hit people with that shit really. 431 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,280 Yes, see that? I mean, it's innovative. 432 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,520 Like, yeah, you don't have to buy something really expensive. 433 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,640 I mean, I have freaking violin strings in my house. 434 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,160 Yeah, I don't know why, but I do. 435 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,720 But you do. So you can find something in 436 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,880 your house? Rubber bands? 437 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,680 Yeah. I use our bands all the time for 438 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,760 like, cock rings. Instead of the cock rings, you 439 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,840 use a rubber band. Yeah. 440 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,320 Or even just popping them. Yeah, use it to fucking hit 441 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,560 people with. Yeah, pop them with the yeah. 442 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,920 Rubber band. It's crazy. 443 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,120 Just all the little things you can do with little things, you 444 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:11,440 know. But yeah, Ruby cracks me up 445 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,160 because I guess her boyfriend a few years ago found her an old 446 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,800 doctor's medical bag. And you could tell it's from 447 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,400 like the 50s, sixties. I mean, it's the classic. 448 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,040 It looks like. It's like almost like alligator 449 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,400 leather type. And yeah, it's an old vintage 450 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,880 she uses. Medical bag now, yes, that's 451 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,440 really cool. Yeah, and she carries all of her 452 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,920 shit. And I was like, Oh my God, this 453 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,320 is so neat. Yeah, yeah, she came in. 454 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,080 Today showed it to you. Oh yeah. 455 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,520 Oh, I missed. It Yeah, she's very resourceful, 456 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,440 yeah, very creative. And she's a creative Dom and, 457 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,360 you know, people need to go on their website. 458 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:47,920 She's fantasy Ruby red. People can go on there and they 459 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,320 can say she's got tour dates all over. 460 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,600 Yeah, she travels for it. You don't even live in where 461 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,320 we're at. Then she can come to you. 462 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,400 Yeah, if she's bi, but yeah. Yeah, incredible. 463 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,640 Right. All right. 464 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,640 So guys, be very creative in the things that you want to use on 465 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,520 your partner because you never know how good it might feel. 466 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,400 Yeah, even the bad is good, right? 467 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,640 Yeah. Because when you get to remember 468 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,240 it, like, oh God, my knees hurt from the rice. 469 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,320 And you're just like, and I have to think about it for the rest 470 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,000 of the day. Yeah, yeah, you told me. 471 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,400 Corporal punishment. You put some rice on the floor 472 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,240 and. Melt melting the rice. 473 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Yeah, how you like that shit? All right, so Liv, that 474 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,720 concludes another episode. Of Tommy, Mistress Bye.