Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me Mistress.
I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia and I have my Co host over here.
I've got Madame Liv. Hey freaks.
Oh, that's a definite opening statement there.
Such a good greeting. So, Liv, I have a an interesting
little e-mail. I thought it was sweet.
He writes his his thing is Mimi. God.
OK, his e-mail, you know, I don't know.
He didn't even you know. Sometimes we've seen.
No, no one we've seen this is somebody else.
OK. His name is Joey.
Coincidentally, we know Joey. It says, hey, how are you?
My name is Joey, I'm 20 years old.
I'm a huge fan of your podcast and I listen to it all the time.
It turns me on so much. I'm a sub but because of my
religion and other stuff, unfortunately I can't really do
anything because it won't be good for me apparently.
So at least your podcast gives me that feeling of being a slave
and being able to worship a mistress somewhat.
I wish I could meet you guys one time.
Can you please write back? It would mean the world to me
so. That he can't live through it.
That's the worst is when something holds you back and it
be religion, no? Shit.
Because he really feels like, you know, like it'll be the
death of him if he actually steps into it.
But honestly, it's it's not. It's like more of an awakening.
Yeah, you should just. I mean, you're 20.
Go for it. You know and and 20 is so young,
but at the same time you know what you want at 20.
Not really, it's more of experimenting at 20.
Do you figuring out what you want?
Yeah, 'cause when I was 20 I wanted like 5 kids, you know
what I mean? Like we all change.
Yeah, yeah, I, I get it. Yeah, I, I'm just talking like,
you know, at 20, I think you already have a concept as to
what you enjoy sexually. Yes, yeah.
Not like the fact you wanted five kids, you fucking weirdo.
I'm just saying, like, things do change, but yeah, yeah, 'cause
you can have awakenings at different times of your life,
but yeah, I mean, it's not gonna change for you.
You're just, I mean, if you can live through it, through this,
I'm very happy that we can be through that, at least this
little bitty way. Well.
You know, you did a a session the other day and he never minds
if I bring him his name up and that's Storm.
And you did a session with Storm.
So how did it go? Would you think of it?
Well, I honestly want to know how he thought about it, but I
feel like I was able to play into my full role pretty
quickly, able to get into headspace really easily.
I played very sensual. He likes CBT, which I love to do
CBT. I don't know why.
Maybe it's the inner woman in me.
Yes. Dick.
Now I will say again, at the dinner table the other night in
front of my 84 year old mother, you said yeah, I'm really
starting to get into CBT. Now granted, I think at this
point she might even know what that means, but I was like
please shut the fuck up. Look, sometimes she's OK with us
talking. I don't know what she's OK with.
I know sometimes she's OK, I think.
She's OK in certain moods, it's gonna be a mood.
And talking about like crossdressers and things like
that. She likes the funny ones, I
think, so she doesn't like the the ones that do we do other
things with, I guess. Yeah, 'cause I was talking about
the humbler and all I said was I unscrewed one with my tongue and
it's upset her. Yeah, it's like, how did she
know anything about the humbler? But that's got nothing to do
with like my my mouth wasn't near anybody.
I'm just unscrewing up my tongue 'cause my hands are full.
She's obviously thinking the worst.
Your mouth was inches within somebodies Dick and balls, you
know it. Wasn't on it though.
That's too funny. So.
So you were doing the the session with Storm?
How did it start? OK, it started with us putting
him in the back bed. And honestly, you were talking
about putting me in the back bed.
And he he kind of made me feel like because he said that his
mouth hole ran away from him. And I was like, I got to go in
there and figure out what he's talking about to be able to
maybe position people where they don't get that, that feeling of
feeling like they can't breathe. OK, let's clarify this.
Yeah, because so is Storm. Storm has anxiety issues.
OK, people who want to go in the vac bed, they genuinely really
want to go in the vac bed. Storm was doing it as hey, I'll
try it. He wanted to go back in at the
end, did he? Yeah, he was.
He was starting to feel it again.
He was like, you know what? I kind of want to go back in,
but I'm kind of like, he's kind of like, I'll probably try again
next time. So the thing with the whole
thing on the vac bed is it's a frame, you know, it's it's only
all right. So explain to people the vac bed
is this, it's, it's over. I think, I think it's like 66
foot three to five inches, give or take in length.
And obviously it's pretty wide, obviously for a plus size
person, but Storm is like 6-2. And so, you know, I had a guy in
there last night and he's 5/8 and you still have to bend your
knees a little bit when you're in that frame.
So, you know, when I explained to Storm before he went in, I
said, you know, it's got a little mouth hole and the mouth
hole is only 1/2 inch in diameter.
And then it has a, the penis hole.
And I told him, I said, you know, don't worry about your
penis. You know, nothing's going to
happen to that. So, you know, you have your
breathe, your breathe hole. And so when he was getting
sucked up, he's in there, it's pressing against his face and
all he sees is that hole and he can't see it anymore, you know,
So then it's like everything's being sucked up and it's like,
look, there's gaps of space between your face and the sheet
and you know, your face and the hole.
So, you know, it's like the hole was there.
It was near mouth. He wasn't going.
To which I think that's, that was just his thing probably.
But he, he wanted to get back in at the end.
Yeah. Which I thought was cool because
he was. He always worries people, you
know? Yeah.
Oh, 100%. And like I said, you know, it
was just the fact that he tried, he made the attempt, he went in.
You know, that says a lot because a lot of people are just
too scared to even try it. But you know, we, we said to
him, Hey, you know, it's fine, we're going to go in.
And I explained to him, Hey, this is what's going to happen.
You know you're going to go in and we're going to do the
suction and it's. Only going to be a couple
seconds. Yeah, and I'll turn it back off
and blah, blah, blah. And that's it.
But you know, people go in there.
Like I said, this gentleman was in there last night.
He was in there for two hours. You know, he comes to see me
once a month, give or take. And you know, he's in there and
he fucking loves it. He stays in there for two hours.
As long as they have ear protection, you know, it's good.
You know, now we were saying to puppy, hey, we were a little
concerned with you having the, you know, the choice to even go
into the back bed just because he's had eye surgery and you
know, you don't want pressure on somebody's eyes or anything to
that effect. But you know.
I'm sure he would want to get into it too.
Yeah, he would love to, but I think it would just play too
much of A risk, you know, because he's had repeated eye
surgeries and everything. And it does, you know, my
husband when it the other night and he's like, honey, it's just
pulling all my snot out of my head.
So you could imagine it pulling snot out, you know, It could
just pop your eyeball out, you know?
Don't scare me like that. So anywho, so continue telling
us about the whole session. Well, when we started, we
started out very light like I always do, just worked my way up
until I felt like I hit kind of like where he was like wincing.
And then I I stayed on that for a minute and then we moved to
CBT, which he didn't want to do sounding.
He didn't want to do anything anal play, but got to use a lot
of like sharp objects on it. And I don't know, I've had a lot
of CBT and usually they're always dripping during the CBT.
But if when it hurt worse and I could tell like he would drip
more. So I knew exactly what he he,
what would hurt him and what felt great to him.
So I was sticking with those things and then I would stop.
Then I'd move to something else, then come back to it like I felt
like I was able to be. It was two hours.
So I think 2 hours is like the perfect time to kind of like
dabble in what he likes and then move to a different thing.
Dabble. It's almost like a tease and
denial with what he wants. I would do what he wanted and
then I would move away from the subject, do what he wanted, move
away from the subject. And I think it was really cool
and he really liked it. Well, that's.
Good, Yeah, he doesn't realize he's a big old pain slut at
times. I.
Think he knew he was telling me that he could handle a lot.
Yeah, yeah, he can. It's crazy because the scenes
that I've seen him do has been like crazy intense at times.
So it's amazing where your mind can go in that situation.
When you're in your subspace, you can handle a lot more than
what you think you can. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
And it can be really intense. So that brings me up to a few
minutes ago you said I love consent, non consent.
Yeah, that's fun. Of course, with a trusted
partner of. Course, yes, so there's a
different lists of different BDSM and, and what people like
and that kind of thing. And it said and I've read this
before that nearly 40% of women and 60% of men have fantasized
about being dominated or dominating someone.
So what does that really say is that?
A primal. Yeah, and most people freaking
want BDSM. Yeah, they just don't realize
that's what it is. Yeah, because when they think
BDSM, they think pain, they think ropes, they think extreme.
They do, you know, it's not, it's you can be a sensual.
I mean, even ropes, I think ropes can be very like almost
beautiful if you do it right. Absolutely.
You know so. It's like you don't have it
doesn't have to be a scary thing.
Yeah, yeah, there's different types of rope techniques from
Japan, different things like that.
But you're right, it's beautiful.
There's a lot of things to it, but it's so fucking.
Tedious. Oh yeah, that's a long play.
It really is. You're like, fuck, it's long.
That's true. So you were talking about
sensual domination, and that was something that Storm wanted,
correct? Yes, yes.
Well, I don't know if he likes it at all.
I think he just wanted to try a central domination or that he
likes it. So you wanted to try it with me?
When people correlate sensual domination, they think of, you
know, temperature from like wax play textures, you know, fur.
Like I saw like it literally like a softer play.
Yes, yes. So there's different types of
things that you know people could do and you know, giving
people ideas. I know we have we have some
rabbit fur in the dungeon. You know people always like that
to be have that rabbit fur rubbed on them.
Especially after bathing. Beaten really hard, right?
It's almost like a hug. It's almost like.
Refreshing, like, oh thank God I got something nice, you know?
So what else did you do with Storm?
I did a lot of like rubbing on his body and rubbing on his face
and head and I would like yank him a little bit to make him do
something and then I would smack him.
Yeah. Like it would be like, like he
thought that he was going to get something nice and then they
would be not. Or then he would think that he's
getting something mean and then it would not to kind of like
throw him off sometimes. But it was more about like
playing with different parts of his bodies, like the, the the
soles of his hands or the palms of his his hands.
Yeah, use that a lot. Like touching it or making him
touch my face in the middle of him closing his eyes.
He doesn't know what he's touching, so he'll end up
touching my chin. And he was just like, like his
body would start shaking. Wow.
Just just being able to touch the chin and how soft it is.
It was just like, I walk past him and his arms are all like,
like he's on the cross and then I just put my chin on his hand.
Wow and. Then moved away.
So he was being like, he was like this.
Moving on his way pulled. Away from it and it was really,
I don't know, it felt like very a different kind of intense
because it was intense. But it was not like pain
intense. Yeah, it was intense of like all
the feelings. Yeah, it's almost like a
connective play to see you like how you move and you you move
and project your arms and your hands out.
Yeah, I could see it's like a connective touching.
Yeah, that's awesome. So he he liked it.
That's awesome. I think that's very cool.
So you know you've done BDSM for a number of years yourself.
Is there something specific you think you know?
When I think of couples, for example, you have not got to
dominate a couple yet in the dungeon.
Not as a both of them, no. Yeah, but you've dominated women
before. Yeah.
So so so so. Yeah, 'cause I, I'm, whenever
it's more play, I'm more of a dominating them.
I'm I'm the top whenever I'm with a girl.
You know, I've had my one friend.
He's in Chicago. His name's Joe.
We've never physically met. We've known each other and have
spoken to one another for 20 years.
Pen pals. Yeah, exactly.
And so he's really funny because, you know, he's always
been dominant in his life through everything.
And so for him to relinquish any control, he's always told me
he's like, you know, you're the only one who I will ever let do
that to me. And I said, well, you know,
maybe one day, one day, you know, he's like, but I got to be
able to fuck you. And I was like, yeah, no, no,
not going to fuck me. You know, I might suck your Dick
but. Yeah.
But, you know, so he's asked me, you know, what are some things
that he could do with his girlfriends, you know, that he's
intimate with? To like bring in the BDSM.
To BD exactly to bring in BDSM. A lot of it has to do with rules
and setting rules and setting like lines.
Draw lines like a box around her.
Say if you step out of this box, here's your consequence.
Always got to have a good consequence and a bad
consequence if she does right? You give her something nice like
you. You make her come.
She doesn't do it. Then you make yourself come with
somebody else, and then she sits there and watch, you know, like.
You're bringing that third person in.
Yeah, well, it's like it bring, it brings in a sort of like
jealousy and like, oh, I did wrong and I don't want this to
happen again, you know what I mean?
But I also like it at the same time.
Like I like watching you please yourself with somebody else.
But it also, like, I wish I was the one to do that.
Yeah. So it's like just good
consequences and bad consequences.
And you can always find them online to do for like
punishments because sometimes people get a little bit lost in
like what they can do to use to punish somebody because you can
punish somebody long distance too.
Yeah, so anyway, so I told my friend Joe, you know, using
things at home and you're, you're talking about, you know,
punishment, setting up rules and things like that.
You know, I was telling him, hey, make her go into the
refrigerator and get all the things that she can put inside
of her pussy. I mean that is something.
Right. You know, it's like, just try to
be resourceful. And, you know, I've told people
a lot over the years. I was like, you know what?
Take your submissive out to the garage, put a chain somewhere
from the ceiling, suspend it, put their arms up and just go to
town. You know, have them do forced
orgasms, make them get spanked, you know, make them do these
things. And, you know, you just got to
be resourceful. And ball gag them.
Yeah, you can do that with a sock.
Yeah, sock duct tape, you know, be creative, A.
Lot of things is taking away 2 senses.
Yes. Take away 2 senses like eyes,
ears, things like that and then it heightens the sensations of
other. Things.
Absolutely. Yeah.
You know, it's like when you you had the deaf guy in here the
other day. I know that was.
He fucking loved it. He did.
He loved it. Didn't hear about his response.
Yeah, he just actually messaged me over the weekend.
He loved it. Well, I'm glad.
Yeah, he said. You know, the whole concept of
sensory deprivation, it adds so much to it.
Yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, he can't
hear, but he wanted, he couldn't really speak either.
Yeah. Which was, you know, you know,
just have to work around that, figure out the different ways to
be able to communicate. Especially since he wanted to be
ball gagged, but I couldn't. I've seen him anyway, so yeah,
it wouldn't have mattered. But yeah, taking away his sight
probably would have been more intense for him.
But I think, I don't think I was ready for that.
I wanted him to feel safe. Yeah.
He doesn't know me that well. Yeah, yeah.
It's amazing. You know, people come in, you
know, having this trust with us, and then there's others who they
don't even trust us at all. But we'll talk about that in the
next episode. But for now, I will say that,
you know, I've dominated a lot of couples over the years.
And I'm actually thinking about doing a class soon because I've
done that before with couples. And I tried to do an
introduction to BDSM with couples and how they can do
things and what they need to do. And, you know, and the biggest
thing is, like you said, setting rules, listening to one another,
you know? It does bring in a whole new
communication, which is really just healthy for the
relationship. BDSM is so good in so many
different ways. Yeah, it really is.
Individually and as couples. Yeah, it really is.
I saw a couple last year and the funniest thing was, you know,
everyone's hurt her with a Hitachi wand, you know?
You know, it's the the basic massager and it's like 14 inches
long, you know, And you know, it's very useful.
It's got, you know, vibration settings, etcetera on it.
And so when I brought the one we have in the dungeon out, the
husband's like, she always brings that out, you know, and I
said, OK, has she used it on you before?
He's like, no, why would she? And I said, well, you know, a
Dick is just like a clit. And he's like, get out of here.
I'm like just saying. So I gave it to his wife and I
said rub it on his Dick. And when that happened, he was
shocked. Wow.
Absolutely shocked. And he came.
He had a fucking orgasm. Buyer, right?
Of course, yeah. I'm glad that they were able to
open their mind a little bit because especially with him
being so reluctant when he saw it right?
And he's like, Oh my God, I didn't know he used 2.
Now they get to have a little bit more different kind of fun.
So I've seen this one one gentleman who comes to the
dungeon and like I said, he sees me about once a month, but he
loves the vac bed. He gets in the vac bed.
And you know, I do like tease and denial.
I do different things, you know, I do impact, I do different
things with him since replay when he's in there.
And so interestingly enough, I've never done sounding rods on
him, but he has an interest cock because the top, the head of his
Dick is like just super big and even like like the the entrance
going into his urethra is big. Yeah, it's like the size of an
index finger. Big.
Just the top. Though just the top.
No, the rest of the penis is average size.
You know, it's like he's like 6 inches.
Well, isn't that ideal? Big head.
Yeah, an average body is a wow. Nice Dick right there.
It's nice. And, and that's what I said and
'cause you know, I told him, I said, you know, I, you're, you
always have, like, you always look good, but it's like, you
know, I, I love your Dick and he's like, well, thanks.
It really embarrasses me, you know?
He's what? Yeah.
He's like, you always say that, but I'm I'm not impressed with
it. Like the big heads, like in the
small bodies, That's literally what I mean.
That's what the head is literally for.
You have the biggest, that's great.
It's great because then you get to fill all the fills.
I see I. Posted a picture of it on fat
from last night, but I didn't get like an up close picture of
his Dick. But it's like it's an ideal
Dick, you know? And so Charles, he'd given us
this massager, this new massager.
It's the back massager thing and it has those the attachment with
the two prongs I. Know what you're talking?
About right. So last night I used that.
And so his Dick is a little too fat for the prongs to go all the
way down. Like especially at the top.
So I thought, oh, I'm gonna take the one of the prongs and stick
it in the head. Oh wow.
Like at the entrance of his urethra.
And let me tell you, he fucking loved that shit.
I bet he loved it. So I was doing that.
I was jacking him at the same time.
He fucking loved it. It was a great time.
So my thing of it is, be fucking resourceful.
Yes, yes, innovative. Be innovative and resourceful.
Exactly 'cause you can always find things like a Ruby has a
guitar string. Yeah, who the fuck think about
beating somebody with a fucking guitar string?
Well she uses for CBT like wraps around their Dick and like jacks
them off with it. Oh, I've.
Seen her hit people with that shit really.
Yes, see that? I mean, it's innovative.
Like, yeah, you don't have to buy something really expensive.
I mean, I have freaking violin strings in my house.
Yeah, I don't know why, but I do.
But you do. So you can find something in
your house? Rubber bands?
Yeah. I use our bands all the time for
like, cock rings. Instead of the cock rings, you
use a rubber band. Yeah.
Or even just popping them. Yeah, use it to fucking hit
people with. Yeah, pop them with the yeah.
Rubber band. It's crazy.
Just all the little things you can do with little things, you
know. But yeah, Ruby cracks me up
because I guess her boyfriend a few years ago found her an old
doctor's medical bag. And you could tell it's from
like the 50s, sixties. I mean, it's the classic.
It looks like. It's like almost like alligator
leather type. And yeah, it's an old vintage
she uses. Medical bag now, yes, that's
really cool. Yeah, and she carries all of her
shit. And I was like, Oh my God, this
is so neat. Yeah, yeah, she came in.
Today showed it to you. Oh yeah.
Oh, I missed. It Yeah, she's very resourceful,
yeah, very creative. And she's a creative Dom and,
you know, people need to go on their website.
She's fantasy Ruby red. People can go on there and they
can say she's got tour dates all over.
Yeah, she travels for it. You don't even live in where
we're at. Then she can come to you.
Yeah, if she's bi, but yeah. Yeah, incredible.
Right. All right.
So guys, be very creative in the things that you want to use on
your partner because you never know how good it might feel.
Yeah, even the bad is good, right?
Yeah. Because when you get to remember
it, like, oh God, my knees hurt from the rice.
And you're just like, and I have to think about it for the rest
of the day. Yeah, yeah, you told me.
Corporal punishment. You put some rice on the floor
and. Melt melting the rice.
Yeah, how you like that shit? All right, so Liv, that
concludes another episode. Of Tommy, Mistress Bye.