1 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,320 Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me a Mistress. 2 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,640 I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, and today I've got with me my 3 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,160 bestie shaman. Hello. 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,040 How you doing Shaman? Oh, I'm just living the dream. 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,320 How are you? Today, well, you know, it's like 6 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,560 64° out. It's perfect. 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,520 Beautiful weather. We've got the windows open. 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,040 It's great. Oh yeah, I smell flowers 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,680 outside. I heard birds chirping. 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,040 It's just gorgeous. Out there, gorgeous, right? 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,280 Beach Beach season's coming up, people. 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,440 I mean, we live here on the Gulf Coast and here everyone is in 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:53,680 the states of New York, Connecticut, Midwest, and 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,960 they're freezing their asses off and here we are. 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,680 Oh, it's like 60s this week. Oh my God, it's so great. 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,160 I think I'll have a Margarita later outside. 17 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:09,640 Yeah, yesterday we went to this lunch downtown, this little 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,000 luncheon, and it was so pretty and everything. 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,120 And then she's like, do you want to eat outside? 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,920 I'm like, Oh, no flies. You know, it was like 72. 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:27,080 So we're just so fucking bougie. We're so used to this perfect 22 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:32,200 weather. But anyway, so Speaking of 23 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,600 perfect weather, Gulf Coast, I always think of our Gulf Coast 24 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,800 swingers and I think about, you know, the community here and how 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,040 it's interesting enough that we've been a part of the 26 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,000 community as long as we have. Because I always think, you 27 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,520 know, the swingers and the BDSN people are together. 28 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,120 In a lot of places they are. Strangely enough, in some parts 29 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,160 of the country I've been, it's actually just a complete 30 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,120 divided. Line. 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,000 Yeah, and that's how a lot of them are. 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,120 Yeah, but it should. I mean let's be honest, BDSM 33 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,280 leads to sex. On some level. 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,280 On some level, you know. If you're in a relationship or 35 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,680 you're just, you know, hanging out with somebody and you want 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,240 to fuck them, yeah. I mean, purely as an art form 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,360 it's wonderful, but you know, it can lead to other things and it 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,320 can definitely lead to sex. The two should not be so cat and 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,760 dog in some instances. Yeah. 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:33,040 So you were in a Facebook group for your previous military 41 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,000 career. I was. 42 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:40,600 And you're just hanging out and you got someone who knows you. 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,040 Just looking at reels. Looking at reels, nothing too 44 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,640 exciting, and this guy reaches out to you and he used to be 45 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,760 your Sergeant. Yeah, it was. 46 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,800 God. I hadn't seen him since 2003 or 47 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,120 4. He sent me a friend request on 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,880 Facebook and we talked back and forth or send reels back and 49 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,440 forth for a couple of weeks. Yeah, yeah, just normal stuff. 50 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,480 Yeah, but somewhere in his little brain he's thinking it's 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,520 going to be cool to bring up to you that his wife is a hot wife. 52 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,600 Yeah, and that he's her cook. And he has no idea how much of A 53 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,360 pervert I actually AM and have been for since I was 19. 54 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,200 So he I I get a notification. Here's a photo. 55 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,360 I'm like, OK, you sent me a meme or something. 56 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,360 I look and it says, well I'm like, oh, that's his wife and 57 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,440 that's her ass. Nice. 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Just stuck in the air. Stuck and she's a hot blonde. 59 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,080 Oh gorgeous woman. Physically absolutely gorgeous. 60 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,440 5 foot 10. Classic Scandinavian features 61 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,360 with the almost white blonde hair, double deep breasts and 62 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,000 tan skin. I mean, just gorgeous. 63 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,440 Yeah, she's gorgeous. I mean, it's almost like she 64 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,680 works out religiously because she was like firm in all the 65 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,280 right places. Exactly. 66 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,520 So you're thinking, well I used to be a swinger, but how weird 67 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,400 is this situation? It was odd because I and he 68 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,160 immediately sent a message. I think he got cold feet all of 69 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,640 a sudden because he goes, oh fuck. 70 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,079 He's like, hey, that was like a pocket dial. 71 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:19,480 And I'm and I told him I was like, hey, man, I already 72 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,600 deleted it. I didn't at that point, but I 73 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,080 was making them feel better. I just wasn't paying attention 74 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,280 to the picture. I told was like, bro, I've been 75 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:29,440 a swinger. I've been, you know, doing this 76 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,600 kind of stuff since I was 19 years old. 77 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,000 I was like, even back when you knew me, I was doing this stuff. 78 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,800 I had a sex swing in my barracks room. 79 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,480 I was like, it's all just white noise to me. 80 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,920 I'm just trying to make him feel better. 81 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,440 I was like, water under the bridge. 82 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,640 Yeah. And then his, he was like, well, 83 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,480 that was a boring statement, a boring reply or something. 84 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,440 I'm like, bro, what? I'm sick. 85 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,200 I'm saying I'm saving you from embarrassment. 86 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,560 And then his next, he was like, I love watching men fuck my 87 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,680 wife. And I'm like, OK buddy, how long 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,840 have you had this on your chest? That's Todd. 89 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:07,760 I was. Like I was like OK that 90 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,680 definitely wasn't a boring reply right there, but that's not what 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,960 I expected bro. Now, see, when you told me this, 92 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,840 I told you I said, well, you know, shame. 93 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:18,560 And he probably had the hots for you. 94 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,880 Yeah, even back in the day, you're like, no, Mia, no. 95 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,440 And I'm like, look, all these cucks that really get caught up, 96 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,680 you know, there's one thing that some cucks feel like they're 97 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,400 inadequate, and they're cool with their wife having sex with 98 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,880 a guy with a big Dick. Yeah, they're cool with that. 99 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,280 But the fact that he goes all balls to the wall and just like, 100 00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:43,480 yeah, I want to watch my wife get fucked by dudes, he's 101 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,360 envisioning himself getting fucked by dudes. 102 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,840 Yeah, I can believe it at this point. 103 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,160 Because I mean, I've had people say to me, oh, you know, guys 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,000 who I used to date in the past are like, oh, yeah, you know, I 105 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,600 just, I can be in the closet and I could hear you getting fucked. 106 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,960 I would love that. And I'm like, yeah, that that's 107 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,120 kind of cool. I'm like, you don't want to be 108 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,440 in the room. No, no, no, no, no. 109 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,760 I I want to be just listening to it so I could see that 110 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,400 perspective. But this guy, he wants to 111 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,320 visualize everything. Don't get me wrong, if I'm 112 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,480 walking around the place at a party and I just happened to 113 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,640 look and they got the, you know, a door open, yeah, I'm watching 114 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,360 because like I said, I'm a perv and this is porn in real life. 115 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,720 Yes. Absolutely, I'm going to 116 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,320 probably get a snack while I watch. 117 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:36,400 As we all would. Hey can I get a term with that? 118 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,000 You know, before you and I met, this was absolutely hilarious. 119 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:45,960 I had a very vanilla friend for the first time come to my party, 120 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:49,400 and he was brought here by one of my friends in the King 121 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,480 community. OK, her name, she, she's like 122 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,240 Jessica. We're going to call her Jessica. 123 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,560 She's she's real casual. She's really fun, but she was 124 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,920 never with the type of person just have like, gang bangs or 125 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,640 anything crazy. But she told my friend, I told 126 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,920 her friend at the time his name's James. 127 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,160 She told James she's like, hey, there's this party tonight. 128 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,720 Instead of going, you know, out to dinner and everything, we 129 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,200 could go to this party and she serves great food and we could 130 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,480 have fun. And he's like, oh, OK, count me 131 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,360 in you. Serve good food at the party. 132 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:31,080 They show up and he's wearing this shirt that Walmart put out 133 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,080 and it's the cats with the planets. 134 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,600 Oh my God, I remember the. Shirt like the space Kitty cat 135 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,120 shirt. So I thought I I met him and I 136 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,400 said, hey, James, it's really nice to meet you. 137 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,960 I said, why are you wearing a Kitty cat T-shirt to a sex 138 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,240 party? And he's like, I first did not 139 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,480 know this was a sex party. Because he lives by the puss, 140 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:02,000 and he dies by the puss. And ultimately, from that woman 141 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,160 on, he and I became instant friends. 142 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:09,080 And I have him down in my phone as Kitty cat James, you know, 143 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,040 Kitty cat shirt James, I think. But yeah, he's a cool guy. 144 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,400 He really is. But any who they at the party, 145 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,680 She had been to the parties before Jessica already knew, but 146 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:25,880 James had no fucking clue. He goes to put their beer in my 147 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,560 refrigerator. He's walking in the kitchen and 148 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,480 he's watching this chick. She is double pounding, fisted, 149 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,679 pounding, two guys Dicks and she's sucking a Dick right by my 150 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,720 refrigerator. Fantastic. 151 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,080 And there's a center table in the center of the kitchen, and 152 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,480 he's trying to figure out how he goes around them without 153 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,080 breaking up the scene, like, oh, excuse me, can I put my beer in 154 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,560 the fridge? Honestly, at that point, you 155 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:57,080 just got to let the scene play out. 156 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,440 You do? Yeah. 157 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,080 Yeah. I'm not even trying to be funny 158 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,400 here. It's like, look, hey, you don't, 159 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,440 you know, they got they're in the zone. 160 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,480 Yeah. Unfortunately, it's where you 161 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,280 need to go. But hey, next time bring do what 162 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,200 I do, bring a cooler. Bring a cooler. 163 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,040 Yeah, he came out and he was just like, yeah, there's 164 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,080 somebody giving a very aggressive blowjob in the 165 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,520 kitchen as well. It's common. 166 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:24,760 That's good, but it's OK. I've I've gone to the parties, I 167 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,120 got to use the restroom. I come, I go to the restroom. 168 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,920 Look at that. You guys are fucking on the 169 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,320 toilet or okay, I'll, I'll go somewhere else. 170 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,880 I'll find a Bush. Fucking on the counter in the 171 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,200 bathroom. Yeah. 172 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,280 Yeah. So at this point, back to your 173 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,320 original story. OK, so your your hot wife is 174 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,360 contacting you. The husband is contacting you. 175 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Yes. And they're like only four hours 176 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,480 away from Pensacola. They are. 177 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,320 And I'm, I was sitting there talking to her. 178 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,880 He would be sending me pictures, tell her how hot she is. 179 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,240 And I was trying to. I wasn't playing it cool. 180 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,720 I had honestly, just because of our past. 181 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,040 Yeah. I wasn't interested. 182 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:13,280 But, you know, she sent me a friend request on Facebook, and 183 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,480 I was just going to talk to her normally, you know, normally I 184 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,200 was respectful, not hitting on her, not flirting with her. 185 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,160 And she wasn't, you know, you know, she was seeing mutual. 186 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,640 She wasn't doing the same with me. 187 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,960 Cool. I made a friend. 188 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,480 Yeah. And that's when things got dark. 189 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,160 There are a lot of broken people in this lifestyle and 190 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,520 unfortunately, I think both of them fit the category pretty 191 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,280 well. It started getting pretty weird. 192 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,440 It went from she started joking with I thought she was joking. 193 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,040 She's like, you know, I could really use a golf cart. 194 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,400 I'm like, well, I hope you buy 1. 195 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,960 I don't know what it is for Florida people and golf carts, 196 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,240 but she every time it got to the point, every time, every time I 197 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,600 would bring, you know, I would talk to she'd bring it up at 198 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,440 some point. And I finally realized she 199 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,600 wasn't kidding. And I asked her, I'm like, 200 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,520 Whoopi, I was like, you have a husband. 201 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:12,520 I have no attachment to you at all. 202 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,840 What makes you think I'm going to buy you a golf cart? 203 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,800 And she says, and I'm not joking here, it's because you're 204 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,240 single. You don't have a wife or 205 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,760 girlfriend. That was her justification. 206 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,480 And I'm like, look, and I had to spell it out for draw a hard 207 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,280 boundary. I told her I was like, look, 208 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,080 it's not my place to buy you things. 209 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,520 I don't do that. I was like, there are girls that 210 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,960 we know that have given me blowjobs and I'm not going to 211 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,800 buy them a freaking golf cart. Yeah. 212 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,080 And she go, you know, and things started getting weird from 213 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,920 there. And I, I even told, you know, 214 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,560 you know, I don't call him a friend. 215 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:48,920 I haven't seen him in over 20 years. 216 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,920 He's a memory, but an acquaintance, sure. 217 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,040 Like, hey, man, why is your wife asking me to buy her stuff? 218 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,000 He goes, oh, well, you know, you know, just trying to play it off 219 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,760 and, you know, it's a joke. I'm like, bro, it's not a joke. 220 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:04,680 And then things started getting kind of twisted. 221 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:10,400 She'd she'd messaged me and one time he actually gave her my 222 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,520 phone number and she called me. That was weird because I was 223 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,280 like bro why are you giving her my phone number? 224 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,040 Yeah, and she called you, and she's saying that she thinks 225 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,880 that you're in love with her. Yes, exactly. 226 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,280 You know, it just came out of nowhere. 227 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,640 We're just talking about normal stuff. 228 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,720 How's your day going? My day's going get blah, blah, 229 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,160 blah. You know, and she starts talking 230 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,760 about how I'm her bestie or we're besties and I'm like, and 231 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,880 I set it out and played English. No, we're not. 232 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,520 I I've less than two weeks. Yeah. 233 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,120 I was like, I you're my best friend, honestly. 234 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,760 And it took you years. Yeah. 235 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,880 I was like, you don't know me well enough. 236 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,240 Nearly well enough to give, you know us that distinction. 237 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,960 Yeah. And it started going further 238 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,200 from there. She was like, well, I think we 239 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,040 have a cosmic connection. I'm like, whoa, no, we don't. 240 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,880 And that's when it came out and I was telling her this stuff the 241 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,600 whole time, just short, terse. No, we're not. 242 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,920 No, we don't. And she goes, well, I know 243 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,080 you're in love with me. And I just my brain strokes out 244 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,560 for a second. My exact words were I'm sorry, 245 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:17,040 what the fuck did you say? She goes, you heard me. 246 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,600 I'm like, no, I don't think I did. 247 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,640 She goes, you're in love with me. 248 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:21,960 And I don't know how to handle it. 249 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,400 It was like she was reading off a script. 250 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,400 And unfortunately, after that, I had to cut contact with both of 251 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,200 them. I was like, look, because there 252 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,880 was also, she was starting to, you know, when I rebuffed her on 253 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,120 that, it started suddenly, oh, he's an abusive husband just out 254 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,200 of nowhere. And once you've dealt with 255 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,080 people like this before, you don't really know what's reality 256 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,360 and what's not. And I was like, look, I, I can't 257 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,000 prove it, but I honestly think you're lying. 258 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,680 I think you're just trying to play for sympathy at this point, 259 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,120 you know? And frankly, it sounds like you 260 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,920 guess she would ask me, you know, my future career plans. 261 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,240 She's like, well, if you found the perfect woman, would you 262 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,000 still do that? And I'm like, well, yes, I'm 263 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,720 like, she's fishing. Absolutely. 264 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,480 You know she's fishing for a replacement. 265 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:11,440 Oh, 100%. And I was like, look, and I cut 266 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,320 her off immediately. Just cut contact. 267 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,480 And just in all fairness, I cut contact off from him because, 268 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,000 you know, one thing I really value in my life is my piece. 269 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,960 And I'm like, look, YouTube brought this in the, you know, 270 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,360 into my world and I just, I'm getting rid of you. 271 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,920 I'm cutting you off because sometimes that's the best thing 272 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,000 you do. Don't string along people. 273 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,600 Don't try to fix them. Don't try to help them. 274 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,000 You know if they if they're crossing lines that you don't 275 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,440 want, get rid of them. Yeah, and I think that's why 276 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,560 we're going to do this episode surrounded by the fact of being 277 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,080 a swinger and all the shit that can happen and how quickly 278 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:55,600 things just snowball, you know? Because I always say that 279 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,720 there's couples that swing, they can handle it like adults, and 280 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,400 they do it to enhance their sex life and their relationship, and 281 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,320 it's all good. And they can separate the fact 282 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,760 that love is not sex and sex is not love. 283 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,200 And the pitfall of that, the opposite side of that spectrum 284 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,000 is unfortunately, there's people and couples out there. 285 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,000 They're using it, they're trying to swing to fill a hole in their 286 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,840 lives. And I'm going to be honest with 287 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,040 you, swinging isn't going to freak. 288 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,960 It's not going to fill that void. 289 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:25,800 Nothing. No. 290 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,240 And yo, all you're doing is delaying the inevitable. 291 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:35,960 Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I mean, you know, we've had the 292 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:41,200 Griswolds, we've had them on the the podcast and, you know, 293 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,400 they've had some wild adventures, but you know, their 294 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,440 rule is always that they play together. 295 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,040 Yes. And I think as it should be. 296 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,760 Classic perfect rule. Yeah, right. 297 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,520 And you know, then you have other wives that again, you have 298 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,440 the cuckold situation and she's obviously cucking him. 299 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,240 And it can work for people because it's trusted 300 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,840 communication. But when you're dealing with 301 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,960 someone who's mentally unstable and you managed to find those 302 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,920 people. I am a loony magnet, aren't I? 303 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,200 You are a loony magnet shaman. You truly are. 304 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:22,240 Now I will say that you have that one, one lovely girl come 305 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,960 down and she's on fat and I love her. 306 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:30,320 She listens to the podcast Ivy and when I met her I was like, 307 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,280 yes, she is not nuts. This is great. 308 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,800 What do you think? I was like, oh thank God you're 309 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,680 not crazy. I know, I know. 310 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,400 And I'm like, gosh, she's so cool, she's attractive. 311 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,200 And then of course, the Griswolds were like, oh, she's 312 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,760 hot, we're gonna fuck her, you know? 313 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,760 I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here looking like, 314 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:58,440 hey, hey, hands off my Kool-aid. But but yeah, she was like one, 315 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,560 one person who was semi normal, like all of us. 316 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,400 And because none of us are normal, you know, we're all 317 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,640 crazy on some level. But damn, when you were telling 318 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,760 me about this hot wife and that whole situation, I was like, 319 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:18,000 Jesus, you know? That it just if I were to, if I 320 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,480 were to guess, I'm not a mind reader, you know, I can't, you 321 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,119 know, but if I were to go ahead and make an assumption, gay man 322 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,840 in deep denial married a very attractive woman for, you know, 323 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:36,200 seemingly status purposes. Said attractive woman is oh, 324 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,320 she's so crazy, just extremely crazy. 325 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,360 And on top of that, a manipulator to boot. 326 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,240 Yeah, yeah. It's funny, you know, it's 327 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,960 Valentine's and we're recording about swingers and her unstable 328 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:55,200 relationships. It just occurred to me that it 329 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,800 was. Just eat some chocolates and 330 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,080 coke. Yes, exactly. 331 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,160 You know, we've got we've got different codes in the 332 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,920 lifestyle. And like I said, I think the 333 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,160 BDSM lifestyle coincides with swinger lifestyles. 334 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,640 No matter how they want to say it doesn't, it still does. 335 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,000 We've talked about this at the beginning of the episode, but 336 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,680 you know, when you have swingers, there's such thing as 337 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:28,320 soft swap and soft swap is basically over the clothes. 338 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:35,200 It's a just a basic connection. You can make out with opposite 339 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,360 sex or whatever in that opposite couple, that kind of situation. 340 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,440 And then you have hard swap where then it's full blown sex. 341 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,080 Oh yeah, you know. My favorite? 342 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:51,080 Your favorite? Yeah, but you were doing this in 343 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,720 Colorado. In Colorado. 344 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,680 I mean, it's a wealthy town. You probably really went to some 345 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,840 great parties. You met different people and you 346 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,240 had a great time. So many different people, so 347 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:05,840 many different backgrounds. And frankly, yeah, at the time, 348 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,280 I haven't been to Colorado in about 5 years, but at the time, 349 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,800 yeah, it was, if you could think of it, it was probably going on. 350 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,680 There were swinger groups. And honestly, a big one, you 351 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,040 know, by the time I left and came back home was Polly 352 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,320 Households. These people are all single, but 353 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,720 they're all in relationships under one roof, living together. 354 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,720 I saw about six or seven of those families all living 355 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,960 together. You know, it was, it was it. 356 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,520 Colorado has a very surprisingly healthy, you know, BDSM and 357 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,040 swinger scene. Yeah yeah, Oprah and Zell. 358 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:51,280 He is like a Co founder of the term Polly family and it was his 359 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:54,520 wife, his late wife Morning Glory who actually coined the 360 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,280 term back in like the Sixties 70s. 361 00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:03,080 I did not know that. Yes, he is a very just just a 362 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,680 really incredible man to talk to. 363 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:10,240 He has published multiple books. He has masters and a doctorate 364 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,680 in psychology. I mean, he's just in a very 365 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,800 intelligent man and you know, he was talking about. 366 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,080 He thinks the reason people swing or go to the option of 367 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,640 being in a Poly relationship is because he feels like one 368 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,560 partner can't meet the needs of the other partner and vice versa 369 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,120 in its entirety. It's possible, yeah. 370 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,400 That's definitely a strong theory. 371 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:40,800 My years in it and you know, the people I've met in it, there's 372 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,920 so many various reasons as to why like I, you know, I can be 373 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,960 completely monogamous if I want to be. 374 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,760 I have that capability, sure. But if I have someone within the 375 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,440 lifestyle who, you know, is of the same mindset as me, why 376 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,520 can't we come to a party and, you know, sample more than just 377 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,880 the food? Sure. 378 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,480 Why not? There's no jealousy there. 379 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Yeah, it's just good physical fun. 380 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,400 Exactly. And that's my mentality on it. 381 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,560 Exactly. Exactly. 382 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,280 I don't know, I'm one of those jealous bitches. 383 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,320 I would, I feel like, you know, I really would not want someone 384 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,800 else touching my husband unless it was a dude. 385 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,160 Yeah, you know, I mean, I know that women are not going to 386 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,520 compare to what I do for him, which is cool. 387 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,200 But I always want to see guy on guy. 388 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,760 So it's like I have played with couples but it's been 2 dudes. 389 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:39,600 You nasty little pervert you. And then I did play with one 390 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,800 interracial couple years ago and it was a male female. 391 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,960 And you know, that was fun, but it was still like, I still want 392 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,640 to be center of the tension, you know, I still want to be the one 393 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,440 bitch. That's there's nothing wrong 394 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,520 with that at all. That's actually very common. 395 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,160 Yeah, it is very common, yeah. But we have met a lot of 396 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,760 interesting people in the swingers groups and everything, 397 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,000 and I think they just really know how to have a good time. 398 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,480 I think it's fun. We deal with the swing dancers, 399 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,440 for example. Oh, they're wonderful, aren't 400 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,280 they? Full they they come, they have 401 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,440 fun, they're very just. Very strong relationship. 402 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,440 Yes, yes. And they're very charismatic 403 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,200 with other people. Oh yeah, they're both bisexual. 404 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,240 You. Can't help but like them. 405 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,640 No, you can't. So I think that the swinging 406 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,680 lifestyle isn't for everyone, but I think there needs to be 407 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,800 obvious common rules for what you share and what you don't. 408 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,920 Oh, if you do not have rules, your relationship is going to 409 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,320 explode and it's not going to end well. 410 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,480 Yeah, because we've seen it happen. 411 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,680 Yeah, obviously. I have seen people come to 412 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,680 parties and they just thought they might like the idea of it. 413 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,400 And once it was in, you know, in motion, yeah, yeah. 414 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,640 It was just an entire scene, just dramatics until they left 415 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,840 the gate. It's interesting, I had this one 416 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,960 one couple and they've been to multiple parties. 417 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,640 My theory of it is if you are on the prowl to fuck somebody, like 418 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,440 look your best, but thank you, right, Look your best. 419 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,080 Well, this bitch, she would look so dumpy when she came to 420 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,680 parties. And I just, I never understood 421 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,000 this rationalization. Her whole goal was getting a big 422 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,400 Dick. And I just happened to know this 423 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,680 older gentleman and he reminds me of Clint Eastwood, always 424 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,800 does because he's an older guy. But this man just built his own 425 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,360 house with his two hands. Fantastic. 426 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:39,800 I mean, he's an electrician, he is talented and he's got this 427 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,760 massive 1011 inch Dick and he has stamina. 428 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,840 Of course he does of. Course he does some. 429 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,120 People get it all, yes. Exactly. 430 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,440 And so I tell people, you know, this is big Dick Tom, you know, 431 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,120 look at this. Look at this big Dick, you know, 432 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,680 And we've taken pictures with it, with this glorious Dick. 433 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:02,080 Anyway, anytime I've known anyone to fuck Big Dick Tom, 434 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:04,680 they always tap out if that tells you something. 435 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,840 Yeah, it does. Right, so we're doing this and 436 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,840 this dumpy bitch comes to me and says I want a big Dick and I'm 437 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,000 like, you need me big Dick, Tom. I introduced her to him and man, 438 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,920 she put her nose up quick. Oh yes, I. 439 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,880 Was like why you want to be a snotty bitch about it? 440 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,200 I'm sorry, are you here for the face? 441 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,040 Are you here for the Dick? Thank. 442 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,800 You, you said Dick. You said Dick. 443 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,480 He was an older gentleman, and I guess that's what she had a 444 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,360 problem with. Maybe she wanted someone young, 445 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,400 but I mean, damn. Well, that goes both ways, too. 446 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,440 Let's talk, you know, How about the fellas? 447 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,640 Yeah, guys, I know it's going to be summer. 448 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,880 Yeah. If you're coming to an adult 449 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,040 party, don't show up like you can't. 450 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,440 You're just coming down, you know, from a fishing trip. 451 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,800 Thank you. You know, thank you you know, 452 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,840 the cheap polo from Walmart, the cut off jeans or just the cargo, 453 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,640 not or the. Cargo shorts the. 454 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,680 Cargo shorts bro, this isn't high school. 455 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,920 Yeah. You're not coming, you know 456 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,440 You're not coming to a you know kegger is. 457 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,520 Stop dressing like a 9th grader. I hate investing cargo shorts. 458 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,880 I was like them. I'm sitting here right now, so 459 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,280 you're. Sitting here in the studio, 460 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,640 you've got the white linen shirt on, you've got dressed jeans, 461 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,320 you're hanging out. I. 462 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,120 Got AI, got a like a freaking $80 quarter. 463 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:27,160 I'm wearing a ball cap. It's an $80 corduroy cap. 464 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,600 I'm just casual today and I'm still trying to look the best I 465 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,160 can. Yeah, and you smell nice. 466 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,640 Thank you. Yeah, you smell nice. 467 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,000 I like that Cologne. It's like step, you know? 468 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,760 I mean, you don't have to. You don't have to change your 469 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,440 whole wardrobe, guys. Yeah, just a few nice outfits 470 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,160 that you hang up in the closet. And when you go, oh, I'm going 471 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,160 to a party where I might get laid. 472 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,680 Yeah, dress up. Dress up. 473 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,920 Peacock a little bit. Exactly. 474 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,720 Shave the back, wax it, do something. 475 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,240 Yeah, exactly. You can ask Mistress me over 476 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,840 here. I rarely if ever come to a party 477 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,880 and I'm not on point. Exactly, exactly. 478 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,440 And you always get hit on and you don't see. 479 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,920 It I do not notice it. You do not notice it at all. 480 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,080 I have AI have a touch of the tism so yes. 481 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:19,760 I was like touch of it. There's that that episode of 482 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,640 Shane Gillis where he does stand up and he was like, yeah, I just 483 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,080 kind of barely missed it, you know? 484 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,400 Pretty much. That's a great but but yeah, you 485 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,120 know, there's so many women that come and they're just very open 486 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:37,640 to flirt and just have fun. And then there's some women that 487 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,160 don't, they don't want to flirt. They don't really want to put 488 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,520 themselves out there. There was a couple and they were 489 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,520 sitting with one of my other friends. 490 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,440 They were by the pool and they were a nice looking couple, but 491 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,240 they didn't approach anybody, you know, Did you see anybody 492 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,440 that interests you? And they're like, yeah, yeah. 493 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,680 Cold feet. Cold feet, yeah. 494 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,000 Throw an adult porn. You have a tour guide, somebody 495 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,040 who's friendly, you know? I was going to say, and you 496 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,120 always make a great tour guide. Oh, thank you. 497 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,040 You know, you al couple of other people, you know, they come and 498 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,480 and help. Oh, Punky Punky's great too. 499 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,960 Fantastic. Yeah, and that's the thing. 500 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,960 You go around and you're just like, hey, you know, this is 501 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000 where you can eat. This is, you know, the part of 502 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,200 the living area. Hey, these are some great tents 503 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,040 you can go and check out. Exactly. 504 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,760 Now we're getting ready for another one come April and I, 505 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,600 you know it's going to be right at spring. 506 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,200 It's going to be a little warm. We're just going to play it by 507 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,720 ear, see how things go. Oh, springtime. 508 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,000 It's springtime, they're horning, yes, So we're going to 509 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,680 see how that goes. But do you have any key points 510 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,320 to remind people on what it's going to be like going into the 511 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,480 swinger group and swinger community? 512 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,400 You know what they should do if they're new to it as a couple. 513 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,720 As a couple, yes, before you take that first step and reach 514 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,400 out and, you know, before you try to find a group or, you 515 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,840 know, maybe just another swinger, couples sit down with 516 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,000 each other and just layout the ground rules. 517 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,360 That's it. Be willing to compromise on some 518 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,960 things that you know to make your partner happy. 519 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,760 And then most importantly, when you do take that step out into 520 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,880 this world, you stick with those rules no matter what. 521 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,200 I mean, those rules are law and if you break them, you break a 522 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,440 trust. And I've seen so many swinger 523 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,720 couples that they let their hormones or their emotions get 524 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,080 the better of them in a moment and they just destroyed a 525 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,560 relationship. Best case scenario, almost 526 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,680 destroyed the relationship. This is just to add some spice. 527 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,400 It's to add a little extra fun. Meet people. 528 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,560 It's not worth your marriage. It's not worth your engagement. 529 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,080 It's not worth just losing your girlfriend or boyfriend over 530 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,440 Sure. And if you meet another couple 531 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,160 out there and they push a boundary respectfully and 532 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,560 politely let you know that there is a boundary, that there is 533 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,440 rules that you 2 have, and if they don't respect it, you just 534 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,320 cut them out. Yeah, I think too, because of 535 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,320 the lack of communication from people, it's kind of like the 536 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,360 Griswolds. They have met different people 537 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,600 and it's usually they're trying to find just a single guy. 538 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,720 Yeah, and they've had like 3 or 4 different single guys they've 539 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,520 met up with who've either ghosted them before they ever 540 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:23,080 met, or they meet them and the guy is completely impotent. 541 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,880 Yeah, that's a that. Honestly, that's a problem. 542 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,360 And a lot of guys, you're going to find single male swingers 543 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,000 everywhere. We're a dime a dozen. 544 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,880 Yeah. And one thing, a lot of guys 545 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,800 love the thought of this kind of stuff. 546 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,360 A lot of single guys do. But when you're in that moment, 547 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,160 and I've been victim of this, I'm man enough to admit it. 548 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,880 Sometimes your brain doesn't want to do what the body wants 549 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,000 to do. Sure, you suddenly get cold 550 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,960 feet. You start feeling insecure. 551 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,520 It's just that gamble you're going to have as a single male 552 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,880 swinger or meeting single male swingers. 553 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,120 It's just a reality of the nature of the beast. 554 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,240 And a lot of these guys, I'm willing to, I'm willing to bet 555 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,160 that they were meeting that ghost of them or were impotent. 556 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,960 They were first timers. Probably so. 557 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,720 And that's something I would tell to any single male swinger 558 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,400 out there who wants to get into this. 559 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,920 Any potential male swinger. Don't start out as a single male 560 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,520 swinger. I know that sounds kind of 561 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,000 crazy. Find a like minded partner or 562 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,080 just frequent some party adult party, some sex parties you know 563 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,680 and make up your mind. Get comfortable in this kind of 564 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,240 environment before you fully try to commit to it. 565 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,000 Or guess what, your Dick is going to go crawling up into 566 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,720 your. Scrotum. 567 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,400 Into your You know it's going to try to hide when it's time to 568 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,080 when it should be time to dance, because your brain's still not 569 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,240 you. Why you might like the thought 570 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,760 of this. Your brain still isn't 571 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,040 comfortable with it yet. This isn't normal life, you 572 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,320 know? You know where we're at 573 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,040 culturally. Yeah, because there's another 574 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,240 dude in the room and he's either participating or just watching. 575 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,800 So it's it's an acquired taste. Yeah, it definitely is an 576 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,160 acquired taste. So you just gave the advice too, 577 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,760 as a single male, don't go in single. 578 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,840 Go with a friend, go with someone. 579 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,240 Yes, yeah, that's always good advice. 580 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,240 That's very cool. And no alcohol. 581 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,840 There you go. Somebody out there is listening. 582 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,240 Like what are you talking about? It's a party. 583 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,600 If you're new to this stuff and you're trying to perform, you're 584 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,480 trying to get that Dick hard, No booze for you. 585 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,160 Yeah. Until you're used to the 586 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,840 environment, yeah. That's definitely good piece of 587 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,440 advice. Go to the doc, get some pills, I 588 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,800 don't know. Yeah, why not, right? 589 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,840 Seriously, out there, they'll just give them to you. 590 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,280 Yes, See, Alice does wonders for a lot of people. 591 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,600 Well, I think we'll leave it on that. 592 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,840 I'll leave it on that note. That was fun. 593 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,920 Oh. Yeah, this was a lot of fun. 594 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,200 Good. All right. 595 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,200 So until then, Shaman, thanks for coming out and. 596 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,760 Thank you for having me. Yeah, absolutely. 597 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,240 That's been interesting. It's always interesting. 598 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,600 I'm an interesting. Guy. 599 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Interesting guy. All right, so until then, this 600 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,080 has been the latest episode of Call Me Mistress.