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Hi, welcome to the latest 
episode of Call Me Mistress. 

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I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, 
and I have with me Madame. 

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Liv. 
Hey, guys. 

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So Liv, I've really got this 
cute little e-mail from this 

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guy. 
His name's Brian. 

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He's like, hello, Mistress Mia, 
I absolutely love your podcast 

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question. 
You always reference your 

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dungeon. 
Where is your dungeon located? 

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I feel at some point I want to 
take a pilgrimage to this 

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promised land. 
Keep up the great work. 

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Truly enjoy tuning in to listen 
to you and your lovely ladies. 

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Thanks Brian. 
I. 

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Like that? 
That's nice. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
Come see. 

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It's not dungeon. 
So yeah, he's actually right 

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outside of Houston and you know,
that's 6-7 hours away. 

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It's not too bad. 
But, you know, I told him I'm 

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like, yeah, you know, we're in 
close to Pensacola, FL, right on

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the outskirts. 
And I told him I said, you know,

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we're not that far, you need to 
come see us. 

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But we, we had a, a few exchange
of emails and talked back and 

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forth about different things 
and. 

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Yeah, really. 
Super guy. 

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Good. 
Yeah. 

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I. 
Like when they reach out and say

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something nice to us. 
Don't you though? 

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All right, so the other night I 
did a vac bed session. 

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He's probably one of my absolute
favorite people. 

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We'll explain about what a vac 
bed session is. 

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So the vac bed session is, you 
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about with Storm the other day, 
you know, and it's sleeve sack 

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of latex. 
So we still need to put you in 

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it so so you can try it, right? 
All right. 

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And it was funny because it's 
like when we stuck Storm in 

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there, you immediately say to 
him, you're not claustrophobic, 

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are you? 
That's one way to fucking psych 

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him out. 
Like I said, breathing hole, 

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Dick hole. 
It's cool, you know, And when 

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you turn that vacuum on, it 
sucks. 

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Everything sucks the air right 
out of it. 

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And that's why you have to wear 
protective ear wear. 

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And you know, in certain cases 
with different people, you know,

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they need to be very cautious, 
you know, and clean out your 

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sinus cavity like it sucks the 
shit out of your body. 

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This gentleman, he actually 
likes to and get in it for two 

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hours and it's wild. 
It's wild, right? 

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You know, and he puts his, his 
earplugs in and everything. 

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And you know, a lot of times 
with different people, I'll do 

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impact while they're in the bed.
But with him, you know, I run my

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nails all over it when I put the
silicone Lube all over the vac 

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bed. 
The silicone Lube is something 

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that's safe to put on top of all
that rubber so it doesn't 

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depreciate it at all. 
But when you put that on, you 

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can rub your hands all over it. 
You can so they feel that 

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sensation, you know, of your 
hands and your nails over, you 

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know, the latex and he just 
absolutely loves it. 

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That's OK. 
I love you too, Ella. 

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But Needless to say, he's super 
cool. 

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I do that. 
He never does any anal. 

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I don't do any of that, but I do
a lot of tease and denial. 

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I use the the milking machine 
that we have on him and he 

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actually bought his own 
attachment for the milking 

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machine. 
What does? 

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That look like you told me about
that. 

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It's the same like cylindrical 
tube. 

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So we have that one cylindrical 
tube and it has the latex sleeve

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on the inside, and you basically
just slide it on, slide it on 

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his Dick, and you hook it up to 
the actual machine. 

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And so it does that pumping 
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You know, the one he brought in,
it was like 5 inches versus the 

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other one that's like almost 10 
inches long. 

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So I put that on and he was the 
one I was telling you he has 

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like the mushroom head. 
Oh, yeah. 

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And that's the one I took. 
And I put that massaging prong 

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inside his urethra. 
So he enjoyed it. 

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Yeah. 
But it was interesting because 

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first when he came, he came with
the prong sticking in his deck, 

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and you could see a little bit 
of like, come, like spurt out. 

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Well, then when I use the 
cylindrical tube to attach to 

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the milking machine, there is a 
screw, you know, at the top of 

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that tube and it just kind of 
holds that casing on. 

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Well, when there's stuff in that
sleeve come, it spurts out 

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because this is an older tube 
and ours really doesn't do that 

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usually like it the screw is on 
there tight, there's longer 

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tube. 
And yeah, exactly. 

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Well, this one was shorter and 
as it was doing its thing, you 

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know, the, you know, the little 
droplets of Lube that silicon 

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Lube would just like pop out. 
I'm like, oh, it's raining, it's

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raining. 
And you know, right, that vacuum

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is so fucking loud in there and 
I've got my music cranked up so 

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I can hear the music over the 
vacuum that he's doing that. 

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And you know, obviously he's 
enjoying himself. 

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Well then of course, you know 
it's going to be mixed with cum.

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But when he does his grand 
finale of this crazy orgasm that

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he had that shit shot up out of 
the hole from the screw, it was 

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like everywhere it was, it was 
like a fucking rainfall load. 

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It was it was a crazy load. 
I was like, what the fuck? 

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And even after after between the
mixture of the solution of the 

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calm and Lube, it was coming out
like a foam at the end. 

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EW, yes, gross. 
And with the friction and 

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everything in there, science is 
so cool. 

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Fun to watch, but at least it's 
his take. 

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Give it to him and just sit him 
on his way, yeah? 

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Yeah, I know. 
And so I was like, oh, OK, shit.

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So yeah, that was his grand 
finale. 

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And he came twice. 
But the whole time he's so, you 

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know, he's so hard the whole 
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And I'm like, fuck, you know, 
two hours. 

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I told him I'm like, you know, 
you got to be a Mac daddy in bed

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doing that. 
Like, I mean, a man staying hard

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two hours, he can come two or 
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And still stay hard. 
And still stay hard. 

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So I it's ideal, right? 
I'm like, fuck yeah, you know, 

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And he's got such a great 
personality. 

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But it was funny. 
He told me a funny story the 

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other day after our session. 
We were talking and I was 

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telling him about my sweet 
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And I was saying, you know, I 
take her to Auburn for her 

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cancer treatments. 
And he's like, you know, Auburn 

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is my alma mater. 
And he's like, you know, I love 

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it there. 
He said I had a lab growing up. 

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And he said I had my lab for a 
really long time. 

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And he started getting sick. 
He developed this tumor and 

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everything. 
And, and so I had asked them if 

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there was a way that we could go
ahead and get his DNA or his 

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sperm so that we could save it 
for the future. 

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And he's like, yeah, he's like, 
I actually pay Auburn monthly to

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hold on to my, my dog's sperm. 
And I'm like, how cool is that? 

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You know, he's like, you know, I
tell some people and they're 

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like, uh, and I'm like, no, that
humans and the faculty, they're 

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doing it for an animal. 
I mean, that's that's actually. 

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Kind of cool, yeah. 
It. 

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Is right nice of them. 
And I told him, I said, you 

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know, if I had with my dog, you 
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saved her eggs, you know? 
But again, that's just so cool. 

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So anyway, so we're talking. 
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I thought they were going to 
just be kind of scientific about

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it, go in there and extract it 
from his testicles, and that 

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would have been it. 
And he said, so I took my dog, 

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and he said I was with my mom. 
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You see where I'm going with 
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He says, you know, they have 
such a high protocol too, this 

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at this facility that you take 
your animals to because, you 

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know, you go in, if you go into 
certain areas, you know, you 

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have to be escorted and 
everything. 

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So he said, yeah, he said, they 
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dog and we're going back there. 
And then they, they recruit a 

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couple of other people. 
And he said, and then this hot, 

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beautiful blonde doctor comes in
and he's like, wait a minute. 

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And he kind of looked at his mom
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use a needle to do this? 
And so he's like, uh, are you 

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all doing this? 
And she says, Oh, yes, we have 

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to do, you know, a manual 
stimulation to do this. 

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I think my mom and I want to go 
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And they're like, look, we don't
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We're just going to do this real
quick. 

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You know, you all don't have to 
watch this, but it's going to 

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take a lot for us to take you 
all back with an escort, blah, 

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blah, blah. 
And he's like, you know, it was 

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one of those most uncomfortable 
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He's like, not so much for me, 
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sitting there with my mom. 
Jack off your dog. 

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It was hilarious and I was like,
wow. 

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Yeah, I mean, that's the easiest
and cheapest way to do it 

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anyways, right? 
I don't think you can take it 

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straight from the balls, can 
you? 

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No, I don't think so. 
Because it's gonna. 

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Be like made. 
Yes, exactly. 

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And he says, yeah, he's like, I,
I think I paid a couple grand 

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for for this hot blonde doctor 
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I love it. 
I love it and I. 

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Was thinking, well you know, if 
she would have saw your Dick she

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might want to done yours for 
free. 

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Yeah, right. 
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Topics that we should talk 
about. 

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You and I have made quite a 
little list of things that we 

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wanted to talk about. 
The one that stands out the most

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I feel like is how people come 
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They think it's a lot more 
intense than what it is or 

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they're scared or religion is 
holding them back from it. 

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A lot of things is just touching
it when they're like I never, I 

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never would do it or you know, 
if my mom or if my dad or just 

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there's a lot of ifs. 
This wasn't the case then I 

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would. 
But then when you do it, it's 

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like, why didn't I do it sooner?
Yeah, 100%. 

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And, you know, I think that was 
something that Mandy said the 

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other day. 
She did. 

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Yeah. 
She came in and she's like, you 

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know, she said for two years, I 
put off not coming in to see you

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for two years, he said. 
I just wish I would have gotten 

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the courage to have come in 
sooner. 

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Yeah. 
You know, I don't know, you 

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know, so many times doing this 
for so many years, I've always 

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seen people come in and get so 
scared, you know? 

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You know, back in the day, I 
told you at my old dungeon, I 

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used to open up the garage door 
manually and I had a long black 

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curtain so none of my neighbors 
could actually see inside, you 

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know, when I opened it. 
So I had this long black curtain

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and then they would see red 
lights behind it. 

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So many times I had people come 
in and they fucking flip the 

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fuck out, wow, and want it out 
and couldn't figure out how to 

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get out why. 
And I'm like, just calm down, 

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I'll open the door, you know, 
Yeah, it was hilarious. 

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It really was. 
But I like that fear factor. 

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I would. 
I love to fucking scare people 

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like. 
I mean, I guess, I guess it's 

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like the way you would maneuver 
Dominic. 

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Yeah. 
So. 

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You know, we had this one guy 
years ago and he came in with 

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this girlfriend and they were 
supposed to do like like a 

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dungeon rental cock holding 
situation. 

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And here he is a freaking pilot,
right? 

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Uh huh. 
And he goes to leave and he 

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can't figure out where the fuck 
the door is. 

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Really. 
Yeah, I believe that happens a 

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lot. 
Apparently so you've. 

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Had a couple stories where 
people couldn't get out. 

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It's so wild. 
It's so wild. 

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And so scared. 
Why are you so scared? 

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Yeah. 
Why are you so scared of us? 

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Just those little, little white 
ladies. 

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What? 
What are we gonna do? 

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I don't know. 
I've done sounding, but I have 

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literally talked so many people 
into doing sounding and they 

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have. 
I know it. 

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And that's pretty scary. 
So it's something I'm hitting. 

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But it's just like, like you, 
you trust me right about your 

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life. 
Like they're like, yeah, I'll do

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anything for you. 
And then I stick a rod on their 

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Dick and they like it. 
I. 

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Told you. 
I thought it was absolutely 

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hilarious when you sat in front 
of that guy and he's sitting on 

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the couch and you were like, you
want to come to the party, don't

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you? 
Yeah, I feel like I'm very 

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seductive during my play, Yeah. 
And he's like, now that you put 

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it that way, fuck yeah. 
I don't know why. 

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I don't remember that one. 
You know, I don't know, it just 

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happened kind of quick when it 
did and, and we had done the 

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session and it was right at the 
end. 

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And yeah, I think it was with 
with our little puppy, our Sissy

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puppy. 
And it was just cute. 

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The way you said it, you're 
like, don't you wanna? 

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Don't you wanna come to the 
party? 

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Yeah, Every time somebody comes 
in, I was like, are you going to

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the party? 
Yeah, every time somebody comes 

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in, I'm like, let's come, come 
to the party. 

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Come see me the party. 
Right. 

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So there was a guy who came to 
the dungeon years ago. 

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It was when I first set this 
dungeon up, so like 8-9 years 

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ago, right? 
And a lot of times Brie and I, 

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you know, we've run ads and, you
know, post on Fet. 

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We're like, hey, you know, we're
in the dungeon tonight. 

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We'll be up, you know, a long 
time, basically an all night 

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kind of deal. 
Anyway, this guy found us and he

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might have found us on 
Craigslist or one of those, but 

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umm, he came in, he was Indian 
and he came in and he's again 

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sees all the red lights and he 
starts freaking the fuck out. 

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He's like, oh, I said, hey, calm
down. 

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Come, come sit on the couch. 
He's like, you're going to kill 

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me, you're going to kill me. 
And I'm like, why? 

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What? 
What are you talking about? 

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We're not going to kill you. 
Probably. 

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Have you come to our house and 
then we kill you? 

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Yes. 
It's all written down somewhere.

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It's like you should be 
concerned if we say let's go in 

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the backyard. 
I got a hole back there, 

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motherfucker. 
But I was just like, calm down. 

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He's like, you're gonna kill me,
you're gonna kill me. 

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I gotta go. 
I gotta go. 

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I gotta go. 
So he. 

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Never dated for the. 
Session Oh, no, he sat down for 

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a second. 
He's like, I see this in movies 

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and he like got the fuck up and 
tried to leave. 

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And you know, it's like that, 
that brick, that faux brick door

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and he couldn't find the fucking
doorknob. 

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He freaked the fuck out. 
He was having a panic attack, 

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'cause he really just, if you're
not, if you're clear minded, 

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it's very clear that there's a 
door there. 

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Very clear, yeah. 
Since you just walked in it, you

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know, like all right, but isn't.
It funny. 

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Lord yeah, crazy how the mind 
can play tricks on you. 

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It is. 
And you know when I tell you, I 

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have said to you, I said, hey, 
look, when you put them up on 

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the wall, always be conscious. 
They're not leaning back. 

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I mean, you know, cuffs can 
break, things can break. 

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You know, the frame and the 
structure won't break. 

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But when you have him on it, you
know a lot of them, you notice 

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how some will like lean back 
towards you and it's like, what 

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the fuck are you doing? 
But I try. 

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To get closer. 
Yeah, but you know, I've had 

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people pass out, I've had people
shake, I've had people like go 

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into shop, you know, so well 
you're not. 

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Helping people would not be 
scared. 

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No, I'm not. 
Like fucking deal with it. 

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It's not that bad. 
It really everybody who has come

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in has always been like, wow, 
this is it's not as intense. 

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Well, to be fair, it depends on 
who you see. 

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Yeah, there's some people you 
come in here and you get exactly

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what you think is going to 
happen. 

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And sometimes you don't. 
Sometimes it's not as intense 

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depending on who you see. 
Very true. 

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Or what kind of experience 
you're wanting. 

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Yeah, Which you can always talk 
with me and what you want, and 

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then we can always assign a 
person to what your desires are.

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I love how you said that. 
Yes, it's true. 

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It's true because like you said 
the other day, you're like, you 

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know, everyone has something 
that they offer different. 

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Yes, all of us girls. 
Yeah, yeah, literally not one of

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us is the same. 
And I think it's great because 

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like, we each bring something 
different, which means the same 

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person can come in, see a 
different person, get a whole 

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different experience. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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And, and, you know, ultimately 
it's about what they want and 

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they get it. 
I was gonna say you kind of had 

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a session that wasn't really 
great the other day. 

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And it's one of those he wanted 
you to, to spit on him. 

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You didn't want to. 
Oh. 

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Yeah, I remember. 
Yeah, A. 2nd to. 

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Get into my head. 
But yeah, he was being very 

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arrogant, demanding to me. 
I'm like, you do realize I'm the

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boss? 
I'm about to make you sit on 

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your hands. 
And he was like, spit on it. 

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And I was like, I'm gonna spit 
whenever, wherever I want. 

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You don't get to tell me what to
do. 

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Yeah, at one point I was about 
to walk out just for the fact of

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he was just crossing a little 
bit of lines that I was not OK 

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with. 
First of all, you didn't ask. 

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Like you don't just get to take,
you know what I mean? 

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Yeah. 
Can't come in here bossing me 

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around. 
Yeah, I'm the boss, you know, 

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He's not into the BDSM stuff. 
But next time he comes in, if he

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sees me, he's getting chained up
to the ceiling. 

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Well, in making that statement, 
it's not like he wants the whips

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and the chains. 
He. 

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Just yeah, he. 
Wants the version. 

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Yeah, intense version of BDSM. 
Yeah. 

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He just wants like a very 
smidgid part of it. 

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Yeah. 
So next time I don't care. 

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You're here and you asked for 
me. 

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So you're going to get me. 
Not me. 

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Get you. 
You're going to get me. 

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It's going to be done how I want
it done. 

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Exactly, fucker. 
Try me bro. 

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Well, you know, and that's the 
thing too, that so many 

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different people come in and I 
think. 

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That it's sex. 
Yeah. 

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Can you suck my Dick or can you 
just want for one second just 

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wrap your lips around my Dick? 
No, and I will tell them when 

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they call me. 
Hey, we do not offer sex. 

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We do not do anything illegal. 
It's the absence of sex. 

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We're actually working the mind.
Not that when we were working 

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the body a little bit too, but 
I'm just saying like. 

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Yeah. 
And we both know. 

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I mean, we know it's sexes and 
the fact that some people put 

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BDSM in the category of sex, you
know, they'll call the sex 

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workers and it's like, that's 
not what we do. 

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Be literally babied and just be 
held and not even detached that 

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way. 
Yes, ABDL, yeah. 

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You know some people just one of
these Spanx spanking and 

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literally not even touched. 
How about extreme bondage? 

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Extreme bondage. 
Yeah, you know, put on the hook 

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and left, left like a dead fish.
I know. 

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And, you know, that's the thing 
that so many people, they just 

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don't really see the concept 
because they're vanilla. 

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Yeah. 
And and they're afraid of BDS 

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and they don't understand it. 
They don't know it, you know? 

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And if you found out that, you 
know, like, like you said the 

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other day about how everybody 
has a version of a kink, if 

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it's, oh, I only like blonde 
hair, blue eyes, that's their 

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kink. 
And so it just kind of makes you

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think like, people are actually 
more in the BDS and then they 

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think they just need to like, 
put the toe in. 

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You don't have to go for the 
most extreme stuff that's not 

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your kink. 
That's fine. 

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But we have things that you 
actually might enjoy. 

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And, you know, that's that's why
I say there's been so many good 

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things that have come into, you 
know, social media and and 

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entertainment, you know, like 50
Shades, yeah, movie, 50 Shades 

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of Grey. 
You know, people say, oh, it's 

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not that great, blah blah blah. 
Kind of. 

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It does portray it a little bit 
different than how I would, you 

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know, prefer, but it does let 
you kind of like dip your toes 

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into the idea. 
Exactly. 

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It makes it desirable, you know,
and you're just like, it makes 

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it sexy. 
Yes, absolutely. 

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Not always sexy, but it just is.
It's a nice way to introduce it 

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to certain people. 
I guess, you know, I don't know 

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if you've ever seen the movie 
The Secretary. 

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I have not. 
You have told me to watch it, 

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but I have not watched it yet. 
You will love it. 

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Or probably. 
It's a David Spade. 

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I mean, not Spade. 
Oh I forget his first name but 

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it has Maggie Gyllien. 
God bless. 

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I can't talk. 
It has Maggie Gyllenhaal in it 

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and she's amazing in it. 
It was like one of her first 

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movies is my assumption. 
It's called the secretary. 

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The Secretary. 
Yeah, I think, I think I've seen

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a TikTok on that where she's 
like leaning over the desk and 

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he's whipping her while she's 
reading. 

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Yes. 
See, that's that's more of like 

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a BDSM thing. 
Yes. 

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See, like 50 Shades of Grey 
isn't really like that. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, it could have went that 

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way if they went more that way. 
But it was, you know, not 

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really. 
Yeah. 

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I think it's James Spader. 
I think that's his name. 

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But anywho, I'll send you the 
link. 

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OK, cool. 
Yeah, you'll really enjoy it. 

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But aside from that, Liv, I 
think this is going to be the 

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end of the episode of. 
Full main Mistress. 

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Bye, guys.