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Hello, and welcome back to. 
We have with us the author of 

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this book. 
The Secret Language of your body

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enough Seagal, who is far from 
Australia and is making a tour 

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around the United States with 
this book and with herself, 

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teaching people about what it 
means to be healthy, what it 

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means to be Gil. 
Do and how to go from one to the

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other. 
In a rather simple elegant 

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process and that's going to be 
the subject of today's show. 

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So each of you listening can 
really get a handle on the 

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simple process that you can 
engage in by yourselves and come

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to another level of your own 
health and well-being, simply by

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following some easy basic rules.
So I'm really glad that you're 

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on the show today. 
Thank you meet. 

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Oh, it's nice to be Yeah, it's 
good to have you. 

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It's good to have you know you 
have gotten critical Acclaim for

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this dr. 
Bernard Siegel we've had on the 

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radio show writes the forward 
and you had just one person or 

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another, you know, very 
high-level prestigious people 

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just saying, you know, fabulous,
Michael Beckwith among others. 

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And, you know, this is fabulous.
This is fabulous that you your 

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work has kind of Taken root. 
Route in the United States 

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because we need help. 
So, as we say, spasiba, thank 

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you. 
I said that because of your 

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Russian roots that is we have in
common, so what is it first than

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inspired? 
You've got such a rich deep, 

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interesting history that most 
healers in a sense, cannot quite

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claim and you may want to show 
all of it, some of it but feel 

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free. 
Well Mitchell. 

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What inspired me? 
Was that I was, I was in a lot 

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of pain and so from maybe when I
was 13, I was having all sorts 

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of issues, you know? 
And by 15 I was having back 

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pain. 
I was having their gestures 

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problems as I kept going and 
growing up. 

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I have psoriasis, I have an 
anxiety and all of the stuff was

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just taking over my life and 
then I, you know, and I went to 

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see everyone all the 
chiropractor's physios, doctors 

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alternative practitioners. 
Asians, but I guess I went there

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with this point of view here. 
I am heal me, you know, and then

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that wasn't happening. 
And the Turning Point really 

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came when I was, you know, were 
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diagnose? 
You were they seeking to offer 

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you simple. 
Medications was the 

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chiropractor. 
Not finding the subluxation this

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to correct. 
The issue. 

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What eat has? 
There's a level on which he'll 

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me works. 
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because it was an energetic, it 
was emotional, it was ancestral.

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So even though they kept, you 
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chiropractor and I'm all for 
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they were trying to, you know, 
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and my issue was not very 
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having a lot of physical pain. 
You know and so sometimes were 

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expressing themselves physically
but your pain was emotional / 

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existential. 
I'm just right you know and so 

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this particular chiropractors 
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and I had gone to see him for a 
while with this kind of thing 

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and you know this particular day
I remember this day. 

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I wake up and I felt like I was 
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My back was twisted I was really
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And I went to his office, I got 
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two-minute driver experience, 
what it was like to get out of 

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your body when you're in that 
much pain, you were about 20 

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years old. 
Yeah, I was in like you know, 

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and I kind of, you know, I was 
with my husband and he helped me

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get into the office. 
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chiropractor, came out, he 
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office and he just looked at me.
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I remember he was very relaxed 
and he said, oh, you know, your 

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body stuck and I was like, yes, 
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What are you going to do about 
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And he said, nothing and I said,
what do you mean? 

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Nothing? 
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wants to be stuck. 
Go home and say, on the way 

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home, I was so mad about this 
response that I wasn't feeling 

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as much pain. 
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I was actually feeling sorry for
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because I was in such pain 
because I was so mad. 

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You know, that somebody can say 
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Yeah, you know, and I was 
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help to assuage your pain. 
Yeah, I did. 

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Okay, you know, because when I 
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pain, you get depressed often, 
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especially when you're going 
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nothing happens. 
And so, I was like, Oh my God, 

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you know, I've had enough and 
then I got angry and then all of

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a sudden, I had all this energy 
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okay, if nobody can help me, 
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This is it, you know, it was 
like this is it and so because I

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didn't really know how to do it.
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some places, I was, you know, 
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jaded and skeptical. 
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young, I'd already kind of went.
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The thing and another thing that
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point, I thought I'm going to 
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I had studied acting and 
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We were taught lots of things. 
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lots of yoga and there was 
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techniques that we had to learn.
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present, how to connect with 
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So I thought this is what I'm 
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So I literally started breathing
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against the pain because I 
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D you letting go of the 
resistance. 

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Yeah, I was a dissolving the 
resistance, you know? 

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And then I place my hands on my 
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I know what I was doing but now 
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your brain connect with your 
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starts flowing, Plus in your 
hand you have a lot of healing 

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energy, you know and healing 
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So you're saying that when you 
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establishes a connection between
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cord to the brain and then and 
also the the hands themselves 

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have energy in them. 
They have chakras. 

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There's acupressure points that 
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Hot. 
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And that's so recording, 8 
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Yeah. 
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connecting, Ting. 
I started going. 

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Okay. 
If there is something Divine out

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there and I'm not sure if there 
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and I want it now, I was very 
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and I started to feel this 
warmth going through my body and

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kind of like this golden 
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okay, this is working, 
something's happening, I'm 

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connecting. 
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obviously, I different points 
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I was counting backwards from 
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Just to get my mind busy, you 
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I wanted to be connected 
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Yeah. 
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now, I want to see my body. 
I want to see my spite, I wanted

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to see exactly what's happening 
there and as I'm asking this and

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breathing and feeling actually 
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it's like, x-ray vision and I 
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look good, but I can see the 
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And so I got I want to go inside
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exactly what this is about you 
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And so I started going is this 
about fear like what's going on?

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Is there, you know? 
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feeling yes to sphere this 
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You know, how I was born in 
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Had to move. 
There was a lot of stress in 

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this, so I didn't feel 
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Yeah. 
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and not feeling accepted and 
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Of this stuff comes had to learn
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didn't know, one word. 
So it had to breathe through all

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this, you know? 
And I'm going, okay, I'm feeling

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that energy and it's like, I'm 
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let's go further, is this, does 
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my family? 
And so, my parents had a lot of 

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issues, you know, with the money
and I'm sure people can relate 

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and with just struggling 
struggling and fighting. 

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So I never felt like I could 
relax at home, always felt there

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was tension and I didn't know 
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Happen next. 
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my back and my spine. 
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further went by my grandparents,
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had gone through the war and my 
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Her mother was literally short 
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fence. 
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and sisters, who are all either 
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this, you know, and then my 
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She survived for four years in 
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To unhide and this trauma. 
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this for 50 years. 
So all of that you know, was not

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express you. 
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younger, you know, from like 
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not go with you. 
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But then she came later, but 
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you know? 
And my grandfather was in like a

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Siberian labor camp for 10 
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So, there was an enormous amount
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And then I also went further and
I said, it easier, anything 

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else. 
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was one of those people who had 
a sign on my forehead saying you

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have a problem, come and talk to
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And I was also like an empath, 
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and so they would feel better, 
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And every everything was in 
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And when I realized that, and I 
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hold on to this. 
And I kept saying, I'm willing 

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to let This guy, I fell asleep 
and the next morning when I wake

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up my back wasn't twisted and 
seven and about 70% of the pain 

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was gone. 
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interested, something has 
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this and instead of exploring it
for the next few weeks, I wanted

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to work on my digestion and I 
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And I want to wear high heels, I
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wanted To, you know, like I 
wanted my skin, I wanted wanted,

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you know, I wanted my skin to 
improve. 

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I wanted to, you know, lesson, 
my anxiety. 

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I want to have a life. 
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things changed dramatically and 
then, and then the real healing 

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began, I think, you know, and 
then I started to really explore

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this. 
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was, you know, I was studying 
journalism, and I thought this 

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is perfect. 
I'm just gonna, you know, Find 

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out everything I need to know by
interviewing people, by 

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connecting with them by going to
their workshops, by 

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understanding myself basically. 
So-called alternative energetic.

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Healing. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Pain is the teacher. 

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Yes. 
For so many, you know, it is 

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whether it's physical or 
emotional. 

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Yeah. 
There's the archetype just we 

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were talking about the 
importance of these kind of 

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collective images in the psyche,
men and women. 

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And this one is that of the 
Wounded healer which have been 

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here for some time in Memorial 
exactly. 

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I think all healers really 
participate in one way or 

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another. 
I know what I was going to 

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graduate school. 
That's the thesis of my graduate

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work. 
Was the image of the Moon? 

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Did he learn? 
How we as you know, modern-day 

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psychotherapists healers are 
connecting to that shamanic 

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tradition and A lot of the 
expression of it essentially you

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know in Western Garb. 
So so and you also developed 

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this site enough to see inside 
your body and others and that's 

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remained with you since that age
and did you further develop that

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too or what I have especially 
because I had this amazing 

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opportunity to travel to other 
countries where they don't. 

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Don't speak English. 
And I mean, I was already very 

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good at it. 
But when you're in a country 

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where people don't speak 
English, you have a question for

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that matter. 
You need to Cheney you keep that

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ya can speak Russian. 
You can choon in and you can you

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know it's like you sense people.
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countries and people with the 
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even finished our answer and 
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You know this Language. 
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you. 
I can feel what you want 

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answering their language. 
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you know, before they finished 
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and I'd go like okay I get it. 
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difference because then you have
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extrasensory perception. 
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Yes. 
To share with you all. 

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Like we took some time before 
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And oh my God, what did I do? 
I love what you saw and it 

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actually does very much 
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to something pretty much that I 
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you know. 
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itself, do you know? 
Yeah, it should be the conscious

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recognition of something allows 
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I had been there to release. 
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It's acknowledgement. 
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people directly, you know, in my
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secret language of your body is 
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what happened to me, but how 
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So there is a process, how you 
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can start asking yourself 
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acknowledge, you know, we need 
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you know. 
No explored. 

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What goes next after people 
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and start to Moon incense 
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the next steps that the audience
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that you have embedded in secret
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Well, there's lots, you know, 
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hands usually on the part of 
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Let's let's say you've got 
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So I'd say two people place your
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connect with your body off and 
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shake their bodies before and 
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circulation going, that's 
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You'll get better response. 
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really slowing down. 
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breathing and then going and 
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If there was a feeling, you 
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part of my body, what feeling? 
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feeling right? 
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don't know what I'm feeling. 
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numbness is a feeling not 
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acknowledge that and then you 
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you feel that energy want you to
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acknowledge feel it and then 
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of your body. 
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people but But and it's very 
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it really works. 
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of their bodies. 
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and like, literally taking stuff
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minutes, her face changed 
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can breathe, you know, it's like
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lot with Cullen. 
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one for releasing dissolving 
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people to use the orange and red
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and do different things. 
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fire, you know, it Finds Its 
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It's very Strong orange is 
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and cells, you know, and Trauma.
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scrub their hands together and 
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together, this tingling 
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colors, right? 
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that. 
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bother on the part of their 
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observers, this header just 
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people to repeat the word, 
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Clear clear, clear clear, which 
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Yeah, you know, to clear, you 
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out and that's the fact. 
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You know, sure. 
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you know, is this age-old adage?
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follows the mind and the mind 
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So we need instructions. 
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Even though, you know, according
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of modern medicine, which has no
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doesn't exist. 
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changing these things with 
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mind is influencing the body, 
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influence. 
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it's constantly influencing the 
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one of the problems that people 
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influence moment to moment and 
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in the body and also how some 
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that affect us and cessful 
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know so many things and so when 
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Transformer, that is easy, but 
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emotions, your touch your 
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Movement. 
You know, you're hearing your 

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visualization healing, exact 
have fun at him. 

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Joy for this to say pain, 

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creative fun, you know, it goes 
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time you can usually crawl or 
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I mean, it sounds odd, but in 
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playful energy in at moments of 
greatest crisis, you create a 

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merger and and by Luring your 
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and connected to the wisdom that
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if you have pain, it goes very 
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your nervous system has learned 
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And your soul is so strong, it's
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soul and it can help with this 
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Wow, it's beautiful. 
Now, you know, it looks like, 

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people are going to have to just
go Get the book to get the rest 

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of this. 
Download, you know, it's got to 

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be able to be handled in 28 
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But is there any other 
particular Salient point that 

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you would like to make to the 
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I really want people to know 
that you are wise, you're wise 

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beyond anything that you can 
imagine and the body is 

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incredible. 
It's leaving its breathing, it 

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has so much wisdom and gift to 
give us if we recognize and 

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acknowledge it and love it, and 
really work with it that rather 

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than working against it. 
And then we can allow through 

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the body, we can connect to our 
soul, we can expand, we can 

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explore, we can evolve. 
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just this incredible reflection 
of life, you know, this is how, 

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you know, how you living your 
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Exactly. 
It's like the canvas, you know? 

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Yeah, we have a thought. 
It shows up, on our body, we 

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have a feeling in terms of 
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Body is just it's the mirror, 
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we're living our lives are not 
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I mean they're sort of like no 
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It's in the present. 
Exactly our mind might be a 

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zillion years ahead or behind 
but body I know there's no 

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lying, it's just clear and this 
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It shows up everything 
especially now now last 

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question, you know, you are 
having a pretty interesting 

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effect on the medical community 
in Australia but this try but 

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around, I know that. 
But where else? 

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Even here. 
I mean, look at it it's 

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beginning to happen exactly. 
There's a lot of dogs. 

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Get you doctor for joining me? 
Yeah, it's exciting. 

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Well, I want to say, spasiba 
sure, thank you for really for 

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this good work. 
It's, it's always wonderful to 

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find another healer and educator
with your level of intelligence 

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and experience to bring to the 
foreground. 

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So thank you so much. 
Your website, you know, see 

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goal.com II and an ASE GI 
elle.com and a lot of 

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interesting information. 
This is Mitchell. 

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J Beggin For A Better World. 
Thanks for joining us and visit 

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us at our website. 
Triple w dot a better world and 

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write to me directly and tell me
your thoughts feelings. 

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MJR, thanks so much for joining 
us.