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Hello and welcome back to a 
better world. 

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This is your host Mitchell, J 
Raven and we're very glad you're

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joining us again today. 
Today we're going to have 

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another very interesting show. 
We have with us. 

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A gentleman from Holland who is 
here to talk about salts, 

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Alexander vain. 
He has been on the path of salt.

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You could say, funny way to put 
it, but it's true for over 10 

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years, and has been dealing with
it professionally. 

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But not just any salt, he's 
dealing with salt. 

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That is a carrier of specially 
programmed. 

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Information of you could even 
say a somewhat esoteric type. 

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And this information is designed
to help, bring us all as a 

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community of humanity, to 
another level of inner operation

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of inner functioning. 
So it's because of this that we 

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wanted to have Alexander on the 
show to speak with us about what

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this real Is that very few 
people actually know about, but 

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we're here to let all of, you 
know, about it so that you can 

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actually benefit from it as 
well. 

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Hi Alexander. 
Hi good to have you someone else

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pleasure to be with you here. 
Good, thank you. 

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Good. 
Absolutely. 

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First of all, what is it about 
this salt? 

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That attracted you in the first 
place that had you interested in

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a project of this type actually,
it was the story of bus, the 

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main developer of this. 
These products that that Talk me

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by that time. 
That was in the early 90s. 

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He he came to me because we had 
a place where he thought we 

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could sell these products. 
They were just about ready to 

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come to the markets. 
And, and he came over because we

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had some sort of a connection 
but I didn't know about what he 

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was actually doing and I had no,
I mean after he spending A day 

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with us and telling us about 
this project and the products 

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that came out of it, I was 
completely overwhelmed by the 

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information and the fact that he
was able to do something with 

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spiritual information, and use 
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that, and make products out of 
it, that people can use on a 

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day-to-day basis. 
It should probably be said, I 

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think it might be interesting. 
Sing to the audience to hear how

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you and I actually met through 
this gentleman that he that 

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Alexander's referring to boss. 
Essentially, I received an email

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from him, having never spoken 
with him or even known of him 

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because he had read a chapter in
a book that I wrote the chapter 

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of in a book, by a dear friend. 
Kara windrider fire under 

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Heaven, I believe it is. 
It was too late the latest yeah.

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Yeah. 
His latest. 

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His book. 
Yes. 

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It's about the Oneness movement,
out of Golden City, India, or 

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Chiara. 
And I first met at your organ 

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half ago or so, and he asked me 
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boss. 
Your associate read the chapter 

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and got totally turned on by it 
all here, at all of the book, He

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meant the whole was that 
specific chapter that really 

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moved him and yeah, he responded
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Very strongly. 
Yeah. 

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Well, that's what he wrote the 
email about, and he told me 

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about your salt project and 
said, we're up to something so 

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interesting. 
And I want to go to India, and 

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you're your chapter inspired me 
to go to India, but my wife, and

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I thought about it, and we 
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decided that staying home and 
doing our journey here, with the

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salt was more important than 
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process and India, more 
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this project, right, Rex, 
exactly. 

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So, that is what happened and he
said, but let me send you a 

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sample and let me also tell you 
that Alexander is going to be 

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leaving the Netherlands, very 
soon for New York. 

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Why don't you get together 
somewhere? 

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Anyway, that's the that's the 
backdrop. 

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So you describe the salt as 
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is it programmed? 
It, if you would have to use 

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just one word for it. 
I'd say it's love Universal, 

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love, but it wasn't there just 
like that it started back in 

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1989 and it took some years to 
find a way and it was this was a

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completely let project. 
Actually they use, You can use 

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your logic alarm test to to ask 
questions. 

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Yes. 
And to find answers to be as 

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guidance as you know, is what 
sauce to take. 

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See a chairman. 
I don't know anything about him,

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but is he a channel? 
Is he a psychic? 

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I see an intuitive. 
Healer is yes. 

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Well, he is well, he's a loyal 
to be a battery is a science. 

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He is a food scientist. 
Oh, and but he and he's also, he

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studied homeopathics. 
And but he is, he's a channel 

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obviously for this 
misinformation. 

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At first, they started to work 
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With symbols, they created 
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test and put them into a 
pyramid. 

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Just wouldn't ya pyramids for 
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used to place under the pyramid 
and wasn't charged with this 

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specific information after off 
the symbol. 

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Now they didn't know what what 
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They just and tested that they 
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And if this is just my practice 
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it that this developed into a 
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information was added to this, 
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were aimed to solve specific 
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people had. 
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people were using the, the 
charged Cecil's, charged with 

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the specific impact energy of 
the symbol, that, that would 

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benefit for for them and benefit
them, right? 

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Yeah, right. 
So that's for various Emotional 

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issues or physical issues as 
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Actually, it turned out that it 
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for any given problem. now over 
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and more information brought 
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out that any soul that you would
You enrich with the, this 

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information would be like a sort
of a general beneficial energy 

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for you to use to wear it on 
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or use it instead of table salt.
And that was the, that was the 

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beginning. 
Back in 93, when after four 

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years of development, the 
products had this Huge amount of

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information I was brought into 
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that but the pyramid turned out 
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database. 
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could take out a symbol again, 
but the energy of the was held 

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was Health by this pyramid. 
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basically? 
Undersold is actually no, 

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nothing more or less than just a
carrier of the specific 

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information. 
Emaciated. 

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Well, the crystalline structure 
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a holder. 
A container correct. 

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Just like crystals certain 
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Yes. 
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intention etcetera. 
Exactly. 

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Exactly. 
So we'll use that specific user 

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crystals that are used in 
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So yeah, I guess so. 
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system where actually two main 
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a Hos Elites as it was quick as 
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for pendant and you can use it 
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salt, this is the other one. 
Well actually, that is Bo leads,

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right? 
That came lays the other one. 

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No Benson. 
You can't see the other ideas. 

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Okay, always lead to use for 
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animals. 
Plans and it restores, the 

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original energetic, blueprint of
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it's programmed to do that. 
That is the, that is the 

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specific concept of this. 
Yeah, programming. 

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Yeah, and then there's bends 
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everything, that is of non 
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And that is programmed to 
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effects of technical or 
non-natural influences 

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radiation, at least. 
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Electromagnetic fields. 
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interesting study that you told 
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about this. 
Yes, yes. 

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That was a very nice, a 
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As I recall. 
That's correct double blind. 

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Large company where over there 
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And three of them were part of 
the experiment group, and their 

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departments were all neutralized
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So when Zoe was placed at 
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an energy field where in the 
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Yes, this isn't Holland. 
It wasn't Holland? 

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Yes. 
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from electricity. 
Earth, currents, cell phones, 

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anything that is harmful to the 
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transforms to a level. 
That was no longer weakening 

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these employees and the way they
measure that as Hell by the, the

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absenteeism rates, and that 
drives and theism absent. 

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Yes. 
Okay, And that drops right from 

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the start of this student took 
the street took three and a half

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years all together right from 
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It dropped with over thirty 
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Which is quite amazing and how 
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300 in the experiment, Curry on,
Jen's and 300 approximately 300 

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in the control group. 
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compared with the control group 
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own past our own history, and 
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How long was how long had the 
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Of the absenteeism. 
In other words, how did you know

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what the absentee was ISM rate? 
Was so annoyed there was a 

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constant number over five years,
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Okay, that's what I want to. 
Yeah, and you know, there's one 

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funny story about this, this 
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first year, there was a 
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One of the Departments and the 
Found a few of those packages 

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the contractors that, right? 
Yes. 

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The contractor to start. 
They found some packages on the 

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ceiling and they didn't know 
what it was, so they throw them 

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away. 
The one person that that was 

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involved in this study that work
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So the the numbers go back to 
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former rates that are formally, 
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Yes. 
So it raises up to 30% again 

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again. 
And so he called us and said, 

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well, something's happening on 
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doesn't fit in the picture that 
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So we came over and check the 
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and then in the months after, 
but the point is that you saw 

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that they were missing. 
Yes. 

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So that those packages were 
missing in those strategic 

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locations. 
Yes. 

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And then you replace them. 
We placed them and the numbers 

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dropped down again. 
So it's phenomenal. 

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Yes. 
And it was especially, 30% is no

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small number. 
No. 

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And there was an analysis done 
on the data analysis now 

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analysis over or by an 
independent research company and

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they rated This research. 
Each with 97% accuracy. 

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Mmm. 
And that's pretty high for for a

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scientific recently. 
These benefits are exceptional. 

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They're only exception. 
Yeah, they are. 

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And you were saying that these 
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This particular salt product 
does not have to be replaced 

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once. 
It's there, it's there forever. 

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Yes, that's because it works on 
transformation. 

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It doesn't absorb anything 
doesn't get Okay. 

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Filled up. 
Does, what do you mean? 

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Write it? 
How do you, how would you 

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describe when you say transform,
transform, something transforms,

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when the quality of it changes 
to a level that in this case is 

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in tune with your own Energy 
System, right? 

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So, that's actually what it 
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We don't, it doesn't Shield off 
for radiation or whatever. 

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The radiation is still there. 
All right. 

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Change the quality of it, right.
I say so it's having a New China

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neutralizing effect right in a 
certain way it neutralize it by 

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by transforming it. 
It transformed changes the 

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quality of after radiation and 
by doing so it can interact with

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human body was no longer 
dangerous. 

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Basically, it's fabulous. 
We need this. 

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There are a number of things in 
the world these days that make 

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these claims. 
But I don't know of any really 

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that have such studies to 
actually verify the claim. 

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So that's unique among this 
field of products. 

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Yeah, I would say. 
That's, it's a pretty unique 

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Concepts. 
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So now how about for the body 
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you seen have been reported 
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We have been done a number of 
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like living blood, analyzes many
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What do you see in the live 
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What you see there is that the 
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cells. 
Yes. 

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Become very inactive. 
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radiation, they become like a 
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When the the test person, when 
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is, is located is neutralized. 
Or he wears like obsolete, then 

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you see on the on the screen, 
how the white blood cells become

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active again and start doing 
what they have to do. 

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You know, clean the red blood 
cells and start on that, right? 

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So that's that sorts of of how 
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it? 
Or is it instant upon putting it

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on that works? 
Practically instant? 

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Yeah. 
Yes, because it works on an 

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energy on an energy level, you 
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needs time to to change, but 
your energy body will react 

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instantly to a change. 
Yeah. 

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That's amazing. 
And what are you said by? 

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Oh, so, do you have people that 
let's say, have been depressed 

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or physically ill and started to
wear these pendants and their 

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luck has changed? 
Yes, definitely. 

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There's, you know, over the 
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especially those people that 
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for Energies. 
H was it called? 

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What is it called? 
Highly sensitive person. 

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Yes, that's a term for that. 
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And they they suffer from you 
know, all sorts of energies that

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they run into a no work or at 
the warehouse or sure especially

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those that category of people 
that really benefit from wearing

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a pendant like this. 
What I'm just wondering is there

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like a particular story that of 
somebody who was Wearing either 

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this one or the one that I have 
in my pocket that was 

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particularly striking to that. 
Oh, there there were many the 

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things that works in relation to
the user. 

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It's Works in tune with which 
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So everybody has a very personal
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Yeah, one thing I recall was as 
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that was as yet, A broken leg 
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she was on the list for an 
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And photos were taken X-rays and
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use back ivo's elites on a daily
basis for 20 minutes you held on

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our leg and then after three 
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back to her doctor and Ask for 
another X-ray and it showed that

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the bone was cured by itself and
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operation anymore. 
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Did you put it on top of the 
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That was on the, on the leg. 
The cast is like the plaster or 

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something. 
Yes, exactly. 

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I'm not sure that was nice and I
wouldn't have imagined even more

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impressive. 
I mean, if she had a broken leg,

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she had to have had some Form of
cast to hold for the knitting of

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the bone to be healed in the 
right place. 

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Yeah, so if it was on top of the
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that the power of the salt and 
the program of the salt I should

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say was able to penetrate 
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It does matter is no no obstacle
for this energy. 

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It will matter is no matter, 
right? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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So that was an amazing story. 
I think. 

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Definitely and yeah. 
Well that's that's a that's sort

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of things. 
What not? 

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What I Learn from that 
experience. 

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Is that the ozal? 
It actually reinforces the 

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ability of the body to, to 
maintain itself and to heal 

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itself? 
Yes, yes. 

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And if there is one thing to say
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that's that's how I should put 
it. 

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I say I say so it helps maintain
you could say, homeostasis. 

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The general balance and Harmony 
of the body. 

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Correct, that that's what it 
does. 

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I see and where there is 
imbalance, it will work on it 

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and just does it. 
Can you hold it in your pocket? 

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I mean, doesn't have to be 
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Doesn't it any? 
No matter is, no barrier 

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matters, no matter so you could 
have it in a pocket you could 

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have it anywhere. 
We advise to wear these on your 

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thymus because that is where 
your that's connected to Your 

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immune system, Shirley and many 
people have a weakened immune 

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system. 
Yeah. 

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Isn't that something God, who 
would have thought that wearing 

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salt would have been so potent 
to heal her? 

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Yes. 
Isn't that something? 

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Now, there's another feature 
that I'd like to bring forth 

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before we close your because 
we're almost out of time Believe

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It or Not, which is that, you 
know, salt sometimes drops and 

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an hourglass and it's dropping 
quickly be telling the time 

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right now You had told me that 
one of the functions of this 

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salt in the programming, is to 
help people prepare their body 

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mind fields from moving from the
piscean into the Aquarian age. 

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Yes. 
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that? 
Yes, that this project has one 

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main goal to serve and that is 
to help Mankind and the Earth to

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make this transition. 
Smooth as possible and there's 

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there are many obstacles that 
we've run into while going from 

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the old energy to the new energy
and we all know that are in our 

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personal lives, surely more and 
more issues pop up. 

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Once you have had one, the other
one is there and that's how we 

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grow and we go in a fast pace at
this period of time. 

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So it's very Very helpful. 
If if your surroundings like 

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your living environment your 
home for example is in an energy

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that is actually supporting 
that's process instead of 

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creating noise. 
And and hold you back on that, 

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definitely. 
Well, thank you for this 

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contribution because you're 
welcome. 

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We could all do well with having
fewer electromagnetic fields 

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effects on us and they're only 
growing in their quantity and 

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type. 
So a really goes rapid providing

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a service and that regard not to
mention helping to strengthen 

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the immune system and harmonize 
the body. 

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Energy. 
So yes, thank you and boss for 

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the good work that you're doing.
Well, you're welcome, very 

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welcome to Happy. 
I hope you found that 

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interesting as I did, and thanks
so much for joining us and I 

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look forward to seeing you all 
next week.