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Hello, and welcome back to a 
better world. 

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This is your host Mitchell. 
J Rabin. 

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And we're very glad that you're 
joining us again today. 

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Today, we're going to have 
another very interesting show. 

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We have invited back bearheart, 
who is the author of this book? 

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The wind is my mother. 
He is a Muskogee Elder from the 

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area of originally will not 
actually originally. 

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But now known as Oklahoma 
needless to say, Native American

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people's here, have a very 
different sense of time and 

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history and long predate our 
visitation to this land, and he 

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will be speaking with us again, 
continuing, the thread of 

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conversation and laughter about 
his people. 

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His Life and the work of what 
he's been involved in for so 

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many years and counseling people
helping people. 

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He's been on The Advisory board.
For instance, at Johns Hopkins, 

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University Medical School to 
help and support assist the 

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development of schooling, 
medical school for native 

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peoples and Alaskan peoples. 
And he's been involved in the 

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world in so many ways as a 
minister as a Healer. 

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Basically as a Shaman and 
Medicine, Man. 

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Now, where he comes from, he 
doesn't speak of these things, 

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as such it is we in our ways. 
To identify our efforts to 

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understand something of the 
character of this gentleman and 

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people's vet. 
He comes from to get a sense of 

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the breadth and depth of their 
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So distinct really from Western 
kinds of culture, so he'll be 

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referring to this book. 
Which is a beautiful, beautiful 

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description of his life. 
And the way of his people and 

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certainly very much worth your 
time reading and getting a sense

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of your immediately thrown into 
another way of looking, another 

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way of being. 
And that's what happens actually

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just sitting in Bear Hearts 
presence. 

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So thanks so much for joining us
and stay tuned as you hear some 

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of them words of a wise, one, 
who. 

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Well, There are just fewer and 
fewer these days. 

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So I cherish and welcome his 
presence on a better world 

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again. 
Thank you so much Lou. 

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Okay, great to have you. 
Thank you now among your other 

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many skills and talents. 
You are a bit of a linguist I 

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understand. 
Or is that just a rumor? 

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Oh, it could be half truth. 
That's before as We were taking 

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a pause, very hard between 
shows. 

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You spoke a language that I've 
really not heard before and I 

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was hoping perhaps Cherokee that
you would share with our 

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audience because it's so 
interesting. 

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Lee Musical. 
And also, as you pointed out 

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very similar in sound and tenor 
to Chinese, that from an 

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anthropological point of view, 
not to mention a musical one. 

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It's very interesting. 
I think for me, Certainly in the

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audience to hear something of 
the parallel between them. 

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Mmm, would you share that with 
us? 

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Yes, the word of greeting is o 
co or Co but in common usage you

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drop that first. 
Oh, that's seal. 

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So imagine a man standing on one
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season. 
Other Cherokee. 

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And and they greet each other 
one says she'll can ollie to he 

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Joe. 
Hello, my friend! 

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How are you? 
Oh, she Nina just fine and you 

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host good. 
And if you are in a group of 

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people and you're happy that 
they are, there you say, 

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Grateful, or thank all of you 
for coming here. 

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And you say it like this in 
Cherokee what are called? 

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Nautical elegant you get to, 
huh? 

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So and Cheyenne it would seem it
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waste. 
It's a straight. 

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Yeah, like that more like 
monotone. 

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Yes, but the Cherokee really 
moves. nobody line, if you wrote

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up for netiq, In Cherokee. 
You'd have to put little numbers

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above each syllable down. 
Oh yeah. 

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Like how many notes to go up 
over here intervals? 

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What? 
Yeah, that's incredible. 

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Do you know Hawaiian. 
Also, I mean, you've spent time 

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in Hawaii and I know a lot of 
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My first trip, I heard the word 
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It didn't work because they're 
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So here was this man on the 
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And there was a Hawaiian flight 
attendant, he wanted to impress 

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her. 
So he asked someone How you say 

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thank you in Hawaiian. 
He wanted to tell her that as 

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she s he got off the Playa so 
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thank you. 
Is Mahalo, right? 

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Mahalo So he had that going on 
and it's mine. 

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So the finally came time for him
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by, he said my halo instead of 
Mahalo and that's fresh. 

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Your time in Hawaii was very 
interesting. 

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Lee spent, the little, I know of
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activities. 
You were initiated into the 

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ancient wisdom teaching of the 
hoonah. 

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Yes, by the keepers of the 
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Yes. 
Could you tell us a little bit 

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about that initiation? 
Because stories of this sort 

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bearheart are so rare and far 
between in our culture. 

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And so few people really know of
the kind of tenor of this kind 

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of experience would be very rich
for us to hear a little just a 

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little bit back Brown. 
Good of these people. 

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There are thought to have lived 
in the Sahara area when it was 

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fertile. and then when it began 
to dry up, Then they moved out 

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and one group went to Southern 
China, others went to call 

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themselves birbee birbee, and 
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And with their tremendous power 
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Transporting and fitting them 
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After many, many years you can't
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between them. 
Even now, these are the ones 

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that are keepers of the secret. 
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So those are the same people. 
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seated then, Southern China and 
Polynesia, and yeah. 

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Colony and then over eventually 
to Hawaii Hawaii. 

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And now, since we've gone back 
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I was my understanding that, the
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we're really originally the 
mauryan. 

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Yes. 
Yeah, I think ever there were, 

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where was my understanding that 
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Yes. 
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the Atlantean civilization. 
I have, could you comment to? 

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I have studied a lot of things 
other than Theology and in 

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seminaries, I've no idea study 
on my own there was a master 

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teacher that it was involved in 
teaching Moses and even Abraham 

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from way back. 
And never written down all oral 

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tradition and there's a book out
called cobalamin. 

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That touches on some of those 
Powerful Secrets but it's not 

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the whole thing and there's 
certain principles seven 

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principles like as it is above. 
So it is below. 

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That's one things like that. 
And you begin to organize your 

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own thoughts accordingly if you 
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things. 
Yes yes. 

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So you're saying that a lot of 
this is held in the Of the 

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Kabbalah. 
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relate this to our Vision Quest.
I've also read the Jewish 

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Mystics and they can meditate go
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So intense, they levitated and 
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in our, in our Vision Quest. 
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fasting, meditating. 
And there are many things we can

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do with that. 
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And if I send some people out to
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can sometimes visit. 
And see if they needed extra 

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help of some kind or I can feel 
someone in need so much that I 

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have my pipe available and and 
smoke it so that it will 

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surround them and provide the 
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And then they have the courage 
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things like that. 
And all of this seems A comment.

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I in none of these things are 
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the other. 
It's all parallel sure. 

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Sure. 
And we work together and I don't

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mix up my teachings and get it 
all jumbled up, right? 

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Right. 
I have to stay with one. 

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Yes, it's mostly the teachings 
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Hmm, to Elder's Russo. 
But I have used other things, 

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especially in Long Distance 
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And working with a little young 
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Now whose legs cannot be 
straightened out has no muscle 

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mass and she she and her family 
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back. 
She was able to turn on her own 

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and now she was in the hospital 
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She's out now. 
No sign of it. 

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They call him Emmanuel. 
Alderson. 

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And We kept in contact and send 
some medicine and things like 

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that. 
And And the fact that she can 

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raise her arm up like this. 
Which he hasn't done in years to

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them. 
It's a big step forward may not 

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see much to other people and I 
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that too if you don't use it you
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or any of your limbs. 
Now that brings us back to what 

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I asked you about the 
initiation. 

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Yeah, about the use of the Mind.
Mine by the Kahuna. 

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Yes. 
Would you mind sharing the story

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of that with us? 
We have three selves as Compared

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to oneself in modern psychology,
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mind. 
That equates with the 

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unconscious or the subconscious 
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has to do with the conscious 
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and make decisions and all that 
and then to get into a certain 

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line of discipline that requires
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The higher mind. 
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No closure, it could be more 
above our heads, but lower can't

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get to the higher. 
I mean, the middle can get to 

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the higher. 
It's got to go through the lure 

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of mine and the law of mine 
makes that possible by traveling

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along, what is known as the Arca
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And something that can prevent 
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Is that you must not have 
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But their interpretation of sin 
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that you might read about their 
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If you purposely harmed, someone
Then that's in you've got to 

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resolve that then it opens the 
way for you. 

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So you go there and as it's 
there then you do breathing 

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exercises and that breathing is 
a vital force that surrounds and

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within and it's very without it.
We can't live and that's what 

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we're putting in. 
And then Conscious is converting

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it into a great vital force, 
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Through your body, through the 
right brain and then takes the 

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silver cord on into the higher 
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It's a people used to call it 
sacrifice, but we like to call 

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it a love, offering up to the 
higher mind and then direct and 

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ask. 
And then my initiation. 

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They put the stone here. 
And said, we don't want you to 

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crush that stone. 
With just your mind and that's 

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what they meant. 
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So on my first try I was able to
crush the first dome Accepted by

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the higher mind. 
They were not the ones to decide

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my acceptance. 
Now, I became One with them. 

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That's the one many other things
that or the who know are known 

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for their strictness and ol 
Mastery. 

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Really. 
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Mastery of the of the elemental 
world. 

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Yeah. 
Like like very few even their 

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philosophy parallels. 
A lot of my my own teachings as 

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well as some some I have 
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Uh-huh. 
And All right, one that 

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everybody has in common. 
The majority of people. 

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They want to be happy. 
Then we say well, why aren't you

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happy? 
You can have fun, but that's not

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happiness. 
Short-lived from here and there,

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happiness is sustaining. 
There's a sense of happiness. 

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Even when you're grieving. 
Mmm, that's a big one. 

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You have something within you, 
you can rely upon when you reach

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out and there's no hand to hold 
it with you. 

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At those times, you can reach 
within yourself and And that 

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inner voice says, I was here all
the time. 

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I'm still here with you. 
Would you say bearheart that? 

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That is this idea of being happy
to be alive and just to be 

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alive? 
Brings us all different 

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experiences from sadness and 
grieving to ecstasy and joy. 

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But there is like a fundamental 
just happiness to be alive to be

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able to experience whatever it 
is that the Supreme Being wants 

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us to experience. 
Yes, let me tell you a story 

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about you Mike. 
I think it's in that book, this 

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bank. 
I think, I included that. 

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Yes, I was in a little coffee 
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Okemah Oklahoma. 
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son, octave, come here and I 
went over there and said Sit 

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there. 
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by the way? 
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count. 
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So today, and maybe little bit 
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way. 
This man says, see that old man 

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sitting over there, so, yeah, He
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He has nothing to pass on to 
anyone. 

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He and I are the same age. 
I grew up with him. 

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I know that's why. 
I know, he doesn't know any of 

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our ways and practice them. 
Why I'm telling you this. 

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I don't want you just to grow up
and be old. 

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I want you to be able to share 
something. 

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Experiences of life to someone 
that can bend be benefited. 

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That's what he told me and 
happiness to be alive. 

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Dear life or something. 
Yeah, and when you cry, if 

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nothing more than cleansing your
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beauty of life, then go ahead 
and shed tears, right? 

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Exactly. 
There's a purpose behind 

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everything. 
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Is there not? 
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As you look forward from the 
life you've LED seeing the 

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changes that you've witnessed 
over your mirror 83 years, what 

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is it that strikes you most in 
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What I mean you've seen us go 
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I mean in your own life from 
living a Actively simple life. 

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I gather meaning connected to 
the Earth, and watching the way.

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Your people went from that life 
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What stands out most that you 
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I know it's a hard question. 
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can give a few answers. 
It's a it's a It's a way of 

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looking. 
Of how to use. 

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What you have? 
Acquired and accumulated and we 

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all knowledge. 
Okay and how are you going to 

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use that? 
How you how will you apply that?

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and, and then, first it's like 
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technology for wait, we have 
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heroism been lauded It's not 
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who they were in life that did 
the thing that's more important.

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Than the act itself. and the 
Final Act, and They gave 29 code

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talkers among the navajos. 
Congressional Medal of Honor. 

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And that code has never been 
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And it helped turn the tide in 
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is that? 
So and could you 11 was given 

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posthumously? 
Posthumous Liana? 

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Then other another one. 
A family came to stand for him 

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and to receive it for him. 
Couldn't make it but the others 

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were there to receive the medal.
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were more than 29 but they 
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talkers so that's that the 
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others but 29 They fought under 
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this country even when the state
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where they came, did not allow 
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And yet they fought the 
volunteered because they live on

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the land that they're loved the 
connection that you talked 

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about, that's how far we go. 
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not talking yeah we're leaving 
it and and because of that 

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threat of this land there wanted
to protect the course, their 

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loved ones or living on it. 
Also, you know, we're up to that

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point where I want to ask you if
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your native teaching, all right,
and after that last story of 

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yours I think it's so much 
apropos. 

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All right. 
I will think in my language but 

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I will speak it in English. 
Oh, okay. 

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Unless you want me to do it in 
my life? 

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Wouldn't mind. 
All right. 

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That's okay. 
Okay. 

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Both K or fungi hallway. 
Legged Scott. 

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Yamaraja Neta Neta. 
He or she promised kimitachi e 

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gonna make it. 
Hi, Omen in constabies it. 

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If he kills over your chin and 
hide love of the Abaya hannya 

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tou, your mouth Ganesh day, evil
mr. 

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Sikandar, a book on Urantia 
movie. 

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See. 
Hope my dog. 

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I think many can even gather 
some of the meaning of that. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Now I'll ask you to translate 

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Well, it's your blessings. 
We have seen much sadness, Many 

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Tears, Dry our tears. 
So all of us can live together 

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as one people with better days 
ahead in this better world and a

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better world. 
All right. 

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Thank you for including us their
hearts. 

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Thank you so much. 
All right so deeply Okay, I'm 

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grateful. 
Okay. 

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All right, I've been a blessing 
to a better world, okay? 

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And in the true and larger 
sense, all right, thanks so much

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for being with us and when you 
come back to New York, we'll 

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have you won again, okay? 
All right. 

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Mitchell J Raven for a better 
world. 

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God to continue this beauty and 
Powerful conversation. 

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You can go into this book and I 
continue Jew, nourish yourself 

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with the wisdom and wondrousness
of our dear friend bearheart. 

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This is Mitchell. 
J Raven for a better world. 

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Thanks so much for joining us 
and we look forward to seeing 

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you all next week.