Hello and welcome back to a better world.
This is your host Mitchell J Raven and we're very glad you're
joining us again today. Today we're going to have
another very interesting show. We have with us a very popular
Guru. The author of this book Shri
Shiva The one minute guide to prosperity and Enlightenment.
So you probably never thought that you would be able to come
to terms with Enlightenment and prosperity in one minute.
What will learn a little bit about how that might be able to
be done. And more than anything, we're
going to have a chance to learn something of the teachings and
wisdom of Sri Siva who has been around for a number of years.
It's got a very interesting background that actually goes
into the academic world. Old where he was a PhD in
Psychology in literature and he is also well known for being the
guru to Wayne Dyer and helping them out through a very
interesting period of time and inspiring him greatly number of
years ago. So with the welcome you to the
show a pleasure to have you. Seal it busy now isn't it
interesting that you come out of a tradition that has been sort
of like a cooked and simmered for many thousands of years and
yet you come to write a book called the one minute guide to
Prosperity Enlightenment. Could you explain Well the
question that people ask I have been living in the West 20 years
or more. You were, as I mentioned, a
professor at University of time just came here to do my PhD in
religion. And then I stayed here and I
thought and then I wait and then I started teaching meditation.
To answer your question. The question that people ask in
the west, I go all over the world.
Yes, in Europe as well. Why you guys gurus go around way
when you cannot fix your own country?
If this meditation to whom work in India, And that is a very
valid question. Sexual country meaning because
India is so poor right Mark? And something from the
infrastructure point of view. It's a yeah shambles, right?
Let's see. The Important thing about
spirituality is that being spiritual doesn't mean being
poor. God is Not poor.
Okay? And this spiritual consciousness
has killed India, too much of spirituality.
Has been the problem in, basically, you're saying because
it's out of bounds because, yeah, without a violent
relationship to Material World night, it's very important.
Very, it is very important because India has failed all the
world cultures availed materially because their focus
has been only on the spirit, they are spiritual people.
If you are concerned about Spirit then you become
spiritual. If you concerned about material,
then you become material is very simple show.
The Buddha's life. He was 100% spiritual.
So he had to leave his wife, his son, everybody, his own father,
his kingdom, and then he became spiritual okay, sir, I used to
teach Buddhist Meditation or University of Pittsburgh at the
end of the class, I would tell them this Buddha Buddha Concepts
won't work for contemporary world.
We don't want to bring in a civilization where emptiness is
the Valerie. Okay, that is a spiritual
reality. If everybody wants to go to that
kind of love, which is not going to happen.
So Prosperity is very, very key to my teaching.
That's what Wayne Dyer, like me so much.
Because he said there is no use of blah blah lying from morning
till evening. We're still people will be still
lost. Just give them a very basic
technique that can give them material consciousness.
I'm here. Well, in the west.
Just as you were saying in the East or in India, India
particularly it's a highly spiritual eyes country and
that's what the focus their attention on.
And this is what they got. Yeah.
And the hardly have enough food to eat but they have, you know,
higher levels of samadhi here. The samadhi is not that well
known but material wealth is. So there's an obvious imbalance
in each situation. And what you're suggesting is
that you're teaching. Yeah, is synthesizing the to
Bring them together really, which is really where they
belong. That's true.
Yeah, that's true. So in other words prosperity and
Enlightenment should go hand-in-hand.
Yes. Because very many Yogi's say
that mukti or Liberation is everything.
Then you will become like a vegetable, like most of the
guru's become vegetable. Like, do you want to create a
Divine coma? And that's not going to work,
okay, that's not going to improve the economy, right?
Right. You know, so you have to have a
lot of you have to have a very balanced approach.
Okay, yeah, in which, you know, the western civilization
scientific civilization has contributed a lot.
Yes. Okay.
And then that has to be recognized and, and used and the
East has developed spiritual science which is beyond the
mind. You can bring the values of the
spiritual science to the material world.
And Words that then there will be a balanced side.
Exact. Otherwise you will be lopsided.
The Buddha is lopsided, that's why he could not be comfortable
living in a palace, okay? But he is model was like
renounce the world and go. And then you know, when you are
going to be hungry and the book that took to begging and created
a monastic order, is that going to work today?
It's not going to work. Okay, so what are you going to
do? You have to pay attention to the
prosperity of living this life? And also not neglecting the
other life there are certain thoughts in Buddhist psychology
Buddhist teachings. That one of which says in at the
end of a prayer, let me attain and I pray that you would tane
everything that your heart desires.
Mmm. So there is a notion of
attracting, whatever your heart may desire.
The idea of detachments and all of that, while it is inherent in
the Buddha's teachings, it's often, I think, seriously
misunderstood, no, it's not true.
Because the Buddha himself, the four noble truths, they start
was life is suffering. Yeah, that's the first rule the
land. The second truth is because of
the desires than aha because he didn't want to use the Sanskrit,
he used to Polly, would, you know, and then The truth is
emptiness. And another one, another one
Nirvana is emptiness, and that I'm not arguing, that's the
ultimate, but that is not practical.
That's what I am saying, okay, right.
You know, here's easy to become a Buddhist but difficult to
become a Buddha. Okay.
Same thing with efficient tries to it's very difficult to become
a Christ. But become a Christian is easy,
just sign on the dotted line, right?
That's why. You know, I am a very, very
practical. Guru.
Yes, no very practical down to the air.
I hear the nice not going to work and I just talking
philosophy, you know? And so tell me then on that
practical note. Yeah inside.
Yeah how do you according to your way?
Yeah, attain prosperity and Enlightenment.
Okay. In a minute.
Yes. So yeah, in a minute.
One minute you use nine sounds to go, you know, 9 sounds and
then some sounds you use like 10 seconds in one minute.
Used a nine sounds. Okay.
Ah, the sound are, but 10
seconds and who were ten psychosis vowels?
Yeah, well, three bubbles we use, basically two of them.
And then how does it work? I have proved coming from kids,
using it in Toronto Canada. They use it only for 10 seconds.
They have these are kids 78, year-old and their grades go and
everything, you know, within one month of practice because they
don't have the ego, they have all the candy.
Yeah, it's a long notion that he had to get you know sit in
meditation for long hours to figure it out because the
marriage Ism is done through the mind because it's difficult to
kill the Mind understood. Okay?
The mind is full of doubts and it is going to create all the.
So all these meditations have to lead to a Timeless Zone, which
is non mind. And there, even one minute is a
long time. So, the Yogi's talk about period
of time, call Alabang loving is 250th division of a second.
A second, is this and 250th say, Division is inconceivable, but
that is the time taken to change everything in your life, okay?
Provider if we can get to that state, okay?
So it's the wrong notion that you should go and sit in
meditation for a long time. These sounds are capable of
bringing you that knowledge that can change the entire material,
and spiritual structure. You give us.
Could you demonstrate the The Sounds?
Now, is how Okay. Yeah, you use the sound you
close your eyes and then use the sound are for 10 seconds of at
the root chakra. And then you can see visualizing
the, you don't, you just focus attention on the root chakra and
then you go to the heart chakra and jail for 10 seconds.
And then you go to the the throat chakra.
Ah ma 5 seconds and then you go to the third eye chakra and say
home for 10 seconds who this is a total of 35 seconds.
For the first part of the one minute meditation.
The rest of the things is pipes. I'm now Ma shivaya again, you
say them at the different chakras. 45, Seat.
So total of nine sounds in one minute.
That's a no, no, nothing. You don't even have to sit down
even when you are having a shower.
You can do that. The whole idea is It can edit
any moment, the sounds are very, very powerful.
Even one sound is enough, a sound with the, what is it
doing? The sound is, is God, you know,
the even in the Bible, in the beginning, there was the word
and the Word was with God and the sound.
Ow is the sound is God, the sound?
Are this imitation Sanskrit? Yeah, the word is really, what
the sound is home. Yeah.
Yeah the warmest. Sounds.
Oh yeah, woman. Whoo, Mama right.
Is 0 becomes home, the home is a leader.
Derivative the first sound is ah and if you have the primordial
sound that's the term meditation that I gave in dire.
No. Yes.
Well I was traveling in California.
This being appeared before me and said they don't blah blah
and bark, like a dog. There is a simple technique to
attract anything understand this.
You know, you create a baby, the same energy to create a you can
when you can create a baby, take the same energy and create a
house or a car or anything that you want and it is understanding
the seminal energy that is at the root chakra, which you waste
to procreate and then you can take that energy to the third
eye chakra and and use it. So, and the sound of creation
is, ah, When you create a baby, you are in ecstasy, how whether
you are white black, anybody is in the throes of joy and ecstasy
and the Ecstasy is creation and that is, ah, so instead of
wasting the energy at the bottom of the church, the Lord chakra,
take it to the third eye chakra. And then there is a meditation
where you do with which you can do anything that you want to do.
Okay? So are you saying So I'm very
familiar with the ideas of you taking.
Yeah well you know because my background in taoism and Chinese
medicine. Yeah we talked about taking
sexual cheat like and circulating it around.
I think what you're saying to bring it up to the survey and
then he what Ella? And then the mm and then
impregnate the thought. With this energy that you raised
from the 6th chakra and bring it to a third chakra, third eye
chakra, that's the thought of fraud already or not, not a, not
a higher house, whatever you want.
Even Enlightenment, visualize, visualize any, what you want?
What do you want? And then that manifest.
So this is the oh this is this is the core of what you're
teaching, this is my teaching. This is the technique that Wayne
Dyer Teaching and then I had given him permission to do that
and I love million people are doing this now.
Yeah. Yeah.
They're pulling the Sexual Energy up.
Yeah. Up the spine and down across the
head to the third of the third eye, and then they ritualize,
how's your home? You know, nothing, you know.
My Philosophy is, don't blah blah.
If given a chance, I don't want to blah blah because even if it
is a very sophisticated, Educated blah blah.
Blah ultimately it's blah blah. So what has to happen is to give
you a real technique? Yeah.
That can you know at the end of the day, what matters is you
need a home? You need a car or in a job or
endured a television show, or whatever you need.
Huh? And nothing needs to be created
and this is the process. So there are some million plus
people across the world. Basically it's the efforts of
Wayne Dyer. You know, yeah, they're here.
We gon be everywhere on public television and doing it.
And yes, and then he put out a book and dedicated the book,
manifest your destiny, and it's based on this.
Yeah. And based on this.
Exactly. Yeah, we still have.
So you, you have your destiny in control.
No nobody else. So what are the results that
you're seeing? SRI?
Siva from Mendoza, Turtles, like people will gossip what
incident, you know, you can, I have Amanda did with people like
at the bottom line and I broke a very broke and then they can,
they want to have a Mercedes-Benz, they can hold the
image in the third eye and impregnate the damage.
So, they might end up with a Mercedes Benz, with no money to
put gas on it. You know, that's why that Nanny.
That's why I'm saying it could happen.
That's why, you know, if he's here.
The Bill Gates is a College. Dropout, Larry Ellison is a
College Dropout. Steve Jobs is a College Dropout.
There are so many PhD guys who went to school with me?
We are making $10 an hour. So sorry.
Ah, what do you do? So, you know, mind has not got
me. Anyway.
Sure. Right, by Bill Gates always
wanted even when he was a boy. I was should be a
multi-billionaire. That's what it is.
You know if you are worried about your basically saying is
he kept feeding that image. Of course.
He kept in powers and energizing it that's what it is.
And that like a fundamental principle like lecture like
hundred Hilton when he was when he had no money, he did not
think like where the gas money is going to come from.
He wanted to buy the Waldorf Astoria own way.
The Queen of England when he had no money for the next meal.
He got the picture of all the overstory.
I must get it. I must get it, it took him seven
years or so, to get it. But he meditated on it but
before then he meditated he created about thousands of
Hilton Hotels. So yes, only a commitment to
what you want to get and not asking where the gas money is
coming from. That's where the problem starts.
So I understand how then I know it's a very it's a coherent
principle from a daoist point of view.
We have different other things to do.
Yeah, you're not down. I rule out doubt.
If I want to manifest something, No matter what you are going to
say, or somebody else is going to say, this is what it is.
I want a wardrobe. Astoria, wonderful, group.
Astoria Waldorf Astoria. That's the Hilton model.
You know, then I recommended bug be my guest.
He said, I wrote this book because I have been so poor and
I could get to this level, come to my hotel, stay there, take
this book free, and this is everyone should have a dream.
And then on this dream Manifest, this is a positive philosophy.
Okay, fine. You know, being in a doubt means
You know, being in Satan in to use a religious language because
doubt is negativity or the bottom lash.
Oh, okay. Understand the moment.
You doubt it, you have lost it. How do you apply the same
principle you made it? Clear about how to apply it for
one's own Prosperity. How do you apply it?
Then, also, for enlightenment, that's a bit of a subtler than
gaining Enlightenment is, I mean, how do you know, for
instance, visualize Enlightenment, right?
What is enlightenment? You know, it seems to go back to
the Buddhist idea of emptiness and yeah forms that that's not
necessarily Enlightenment if you go to Babaji he wouldn't accept
as a the Buddha's Enlightenment, as Enlightenment Enlightenment,
a decorative. Yeah, he would say, the ability
to do everything is Enlightenment now, the ability
to lose. Everything is Enlightenment
losing your thought processes in Lightman, not Enlightenment.
There are a lot of guys. Chanting mantras Rama Rama Shiva
Shiva. And then And on the street, they
are 55 years old. Because the guru's who came here
they said, this is the best thing that can be done.
And are now they are all 55 year old.
They are not, you know, nobody is willing to hire them henna.
And are they have homeless? What are you going to do?
So there are two things that I teach you got to be very careful
about the material reality about the spiritual reality.
So Enlightenment is not a losing process.
Where you lose your thing, will you lose your ego?
You lose your mind and then be on the street.
That's not enlightenment. Okay, that's the wrong.
Wrong concept of Enlightenment are losing.
Your thought process is not Enlightenment.
So a lot of people say, I want mukti, the multi has been very
big term these days is Liberation, what are you going
to do? If you become thoughtless, then
that's the Dave, coma condition, you have no interest in life.
Then how how are things going to work in this life for you?
Huh. I rested here.
This wrong philosophy, you know, people have to take
responsibility for What they are teaching.
And the people who go to people and this is a very good point.
Yeah. They also are gonna my God,
what's going to happen? At the end of the day, I had to
pay for my gas. Okay, Circle.
All somebody else has to pay, okay?
For the gas, you can nobody is going to give free gas for an
enlightened person, okay, so it's not a good idea to lose
your ego is not a good idea to lose your thought process.
It is good to understand your ego.
It's good. The stand, your thought process
and Empower them, and give them a high self-esteem.
That's basically my teaching I understand.
Okay. There's one piece I still want
to get though. Okay.
Which is about, I'm going to translate what I've heard.
Yeah, into a word. Yes.
Which is balanced between the part.
That's true. It's really balanced.
Yeah, that's all about the book is about.
Yeah, prosperity and Enlightenment.
I understand. Yeah.
What I want to do is, uh, Understand how using your
Technique. Yeah, Enlightenment is realized.
And what is it that you mean by Enlightenment?
I understand that you don't think.
Yeah. I mean they Enlightenment is an
ability to stay in a non ego, non mind state, which is the
state of empowerment of being in a place to manifest, your
thoughts to be able to do things that you want to do to help
others to be compassionate. Okay, and this is what in like
Monday. Okay okay, okay, okay, that's
good. No it brings a balanced.
Yes. Yeah, our world sorely needs of
Enlightenment is not running away from like, are always
meditating all the time and Enlightenment means being in a
very, very powerful intelligent level of existence, right?
You know, in a non by Dottie goes, and then use that to you.
Enrich life. Enhance life.
Okay, so that there is not much suffering, that's to me.
It's a pleasure to have you on talking about this.
Because for me, I spend a lot of time saying this to people.
Yeah. And sometimes they think I'm,
you know, you know what happened to people.
Don't understand that you can't. You're supposed to be spiritual.
Meaning a while Spirit to move you and to animate.
Yeah, but also, We're living in a material world and it should
be appreciated and enjoyed. Yeah, completely, yeah, but I
must I must tell you that I have not had much success with people
because people always want a like I want to just go and
spaced out I can't because it's easy to do that.
I know. Okay I will go and hang out in
Sedona some sleep. All right, so I asked a person
is what it is. You know how much you say they
are going to again you know, just as lining up for a Broadway
show you know, and crab borrowing money from credit
card, you know, escapism example, going to a Broadway
show is not different from this. Exactly, go into is good.
That's right. It's in plus unit exactly.
And when somebody goes to a guru it also means that they're not
yeah cultivating their own shop team, that's there anyway, you
know? And that's not fair, either,
definitely, you know, it's it's not that I'm not saying that you
should not go to a guru, he can Empower you.
But then there have been just a little place there is.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
You know, everything plays and everyone plays his or her role
in the larger sphere. I mean, I always say to people,
you know, either. Everything is God or nothing is
God, take your choice and you can live from either space.
Right? You know your opinion is valid.
Yeah, whatever it is. You can't make some things God
like, like spirit and not Material World, right?
It doesn't work. That's why I say that poverty
is, is not Divinity. Poverty is not Divinity, and
also money is not evil. Only misuse of money is evil.
Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
It's really true. Lack of money is evil.
You know, I think that there's validity to that because, you
know, if you cannot contribute to society and we do that, often
materially in some way, your then becoming a drain.
As they say, you're either part of the solution or part of the
problem, right? And if you cannot sustain, I
mean, I look at things and anyway, from a sustainability
all of it, and if you cannot self-sustained, no, it means.
You're costing society and the Earth, right?
Money, a certain kind of currency whatever that currency,
I agree. So people who are lowered,
overly spiritual, they have been a boo resource.
Maybe lived in a San Franciscan Monastery for a long time.
In many lifetimes, spiritualizing, their
Consciousness, rejecting wealth. They, you know, that's why it
takes time. Then they will eventually come
back. That's the that's to me is
Golden Age. Yes, yes, yes, yes, one, we have
less than one minute left, but it only takes you a minute to
answer a very Question. So karma, you know, everybody
comes in with their own karmic picture, right?
And are you saying also that through your?
Yeah, practice no way. And that is a teaching, you
know, the cartomizer goes that quickly.
Yeah, Karma. It takes thousands of years to
develop and one minute to let go, no, there's another
technique, the for karma bursting, okay.
It's karma is here. Yes, in the throat.
And they held in church on the throat chakra, it's called
Adam's Apple. That's also karma in the
Christian sense, okay? And then there is a particular
meditation that I teach for karma.
You know, you just put a blue light and share this round 3
neela kantam and you look under and as you go on saying that
then you blew karma is only certain in a vested interest in
a thought or a relationship or her job, right?
It has too much. Yeah, it has.
Leave that place and then find another place to put your mind
off shore. And that shift, she takes place
when you do that another, that's not this meditate.
That's another meditation is also in the book.
Okay morning. Well, it's been wonderful to
have you on to talk about this. Let's show everybody the book
again in one minute folks. We just heard how you can
literally transform your life at and if you do it for a few
minutes, I don't even want to think about it.
Thanks again for being with us. Absolutely.
Well, I hope you enjoyed that as much as I want and also that you
got enriched as much as I do. So on that note this is not a
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