1 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,600 Hello and welcome back to a better world. 2 00:00:25,700 --> 00:00:28,100 This is your host Mitchell J Raven and we're very glad you're 3 00:00:28,100 --> 00:00:30,400 joining us again today. Today we're going to have 4 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,700 another very interesting show. We have with us a very popular 5 00:00:34,700 --> 00:00:38,000 Guru. The author of this book Shri 6 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,800 Shiva The one minute guide to prosperity and Enlightenment. 7 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:47,500 So you probably never thought that you would be able to come 8 00:00:47,500 --> 00:00:51,500 to terms with Enlightenment and prosperity in one minute. 9 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,100 What will learn a little bit about how that might be able to 10 00:00:54,108 --> 00:00:56,800 be done. And more than anything, we're 11 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,300 going to have a chance to learn something of the teachings and 12 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:04,200 wisdom of Sri Siva who has been around for a number of years. 13 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,900 It's got a very interesting background that actually goes 14 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:10,900 into the academic world. Old where he was a PhD in 15 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,900 Psychology in literature and he is also well known for being the 16 00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:19,200 guru to Wayne Dyer and helping them out through a very 17 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,200 interesting period of time and inspiring him greatly number of 18 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,900 years ago. So with the welcome you to the 19 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:33,300 show a pleasure to have you. Seal it busy now isn't it 20 00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:38,800 interesting that you come out of a tradition that has been sort 21 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,000 of like a cooked and simmered for many thousands of years and 22 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,000 yet you come to write a book called the one minute guide to 23 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Prosperity Enlightenment. Could you explain Well the 24 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:57,100 question that people ask I have been living in the West 20 years 25 00:01:57,100 --> 00:02:00,200 or more. You were, as I mentioned, a 26 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,500 professor at University of time just came here to do my PhD in 27 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:06,900 religion. And then I stayed here and I 28 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:12,200 thought and then I wait and then I started teaching meditation. 29 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,000 To answer your question. The question that people ask in 30 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,700 the west, I go all over the world. 31 00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:28,800 Yes, in Europe as well. Why you guys gurus go around way 32 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,800 when you cannot fix your own country? 33 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:37,200 If this meditation to whom work in India, And that is a very 34 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,200 valid question. Sexual country meaning because 35 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,500 India is so poor right Mark? And something from the 36 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,600 infrastructure point of view. It's a yeah shambles, right? 37 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,700 Let's see. The Important thing about 38 00:02:54,500 --> 00:03:01,600 spirituality is that being spiritual doesn't mean being 39 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,900 poor. God is Not poor. 40 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:08,700 Okay? And this spiritual consciousness 41 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:12,000 has killed India, too much of spirituality. 42 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:16,200 Has been the problem in, basically, you're saying because 43 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,700 it's out of bounds because, yeah, without a violent 44 00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:22,700 relationship to Material World night, it's very important. 45 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:26,400 Very, it is very important because India has failed all the 46 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,300 world cultures availed materially because their focus 47 00:03:30,300 --> 00:03:34,200 has been only on the spirit, they are spiritual people. 48 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:37,200 If you are concerned about Spirit then you become 49 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,300 spiritual. If you concerned about material, 50 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:42,700 then you become material is very simple show. 51 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,700 The Buddha's life. He was 100% spiritual. 52 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:52,100 So he had to leave his wife, his son, everybody, his own father, 53 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:57,200 his kingdom, and then he became spiritual okay, sir, I used to 54 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,400 teach Buddhist Meditation or University of Pittsburgh at the 55 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,100 end of the class, I would tell them this Buddha Buddha Concepts 56 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:08,500 won't work for contemporary world. 57 00:04:08,900 --> 00:04:12,400 We don't want to bring in a civilization where emptiness is 58 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,000 the Valerie. Okay, that is a spiritual 59 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,600 reality. If everybody wants to go to that 60 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,600 kind of love, which is not going to happen. 61 00:04:21,100 --> 00:04:24,400 So Prosperity is very, very key to my teaching. 62 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 That's what Wayne Dyer, like me so much. 63 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,100 Because he said there is no use of blah blah lying from morning 64 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:35,200 till evening. We're still people will be still 65 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,900 lost. Just give them a very basic 66 00:04:38,900 --> 00:04:42,600 technique that can give them material consciousness. 67 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,400 I'm here. Well, in the west. 68 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,500 Just as you were saying in the East or in India, India 69 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:51,800 particularly it's a highly spiritual eyes country and 70 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,600 that's what the focus their attention on. 71 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,600 And this is what they got. Yeah. 72 00:04:55,700 --> 00:04:58,800 And the hardly have enough food to eat but they have, you know, 73 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,700 higher levels of samadhi here. The samadhi is not that well 74 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:07,000 known but material wealth is. So there's an obvious imbalance 75 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,300 in each situation. And what you're suggesting is 76 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:12,900 that you're teaching. Yeah, is synthesizing the to 77 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,900 Bring them together really, which is really where they 78 00:05:14,900 --> 00:05:15,900 belong. That's true. 79 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,400 Yeah, that's true. So in other words prosperity and 80 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,600 Enlightenment should go hand-in-hand. 81 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,100 Yes. Because very many Yogi's say 82 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:28,300 that mukti or Liberation is everything. 83 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,900 Then you will become like a vegetable, like most of the 84 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:36,900 guru's become vegetable. Like, do you want to create a 85 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:39,900 Divine coma? And that's not going to work, 86 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,800 okay, that's not going to improve the economy, right? 87 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:45,200 Right. You know, so you have to have a 88 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,900 lot of you have to have a very balanced approach. 89 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:52,000 Okay, yeah, in which, you know, the western civilization 90 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,800 scientific civilization has contributed a lot. 91 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:55,800 Yes. Okay. 92 00:05:56,700 --> 00:06:02,300 And then that has to be recognized and, and used and the 93 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:06,800 East has developed spiritual science which is beyond the 94 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,800 mind. You can bring the values of the 95 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,300 spiritual science to the material world. 96 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:16,100 And Words that then there will be a balanced side. 97 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:18,400 Exact. Otherwise you will be lopsided. 98 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,100 The Buddha is lopsided, that's why he could not be comfortable 99 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:26,000 living in a palace, okay? But he is model was like 100 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,500 renounce the world and go. And then you know, when you are 101 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,300 going to be hungry and the book that took to begging and created 102 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:35,800 a monastic order, is that going to work today? 103 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,900 It's not going to work. Okay, so what are you going to 104 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:44,000 do? You have to pay attention to the 105 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:50,700 prosperity of living this life? And also not neglecting the 106 00:06:50,700 --> 00:06:55,700 other life there are certain thoughts in Buddhist psychology 107 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:01,600 Buddhist teachings. That one of which says in at the 108 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,900 end of a prayer, let me attain and I pray that you would tane 109 00:07:06,900 --> 00:07:08,900 everything that your heart desires. 110 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,600 Mmm. So there is a notion of 111 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,800 attracting, whatever your heart may desire. 112 00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:23,000 The idea of detachments and all of that, while it is inherent in 113 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,000 the Buddha's teachings, it's often, I think, seriously 114 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,600 misunderstood, no, it's not true. 115 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,400 Because the Buddha himself, the four noble truths, they start 116 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:38,500 was life is suffering. Yeah, that's the first rule the 117 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:40,700 land. The second truth is because of 118 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:44,300 the desires than aha because he didn't want to use the Sanskrit, 119 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:48,900 he used to Polly, would, you know, and then The truth is 120 00:07:48,900 --> 00:07:52,200 emptiness. And another one, another one 121 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,300 Nirvana is emptiness, and that I'm not arguing, that's the 122 00:07:57,300 --> 00:07:59,500 ultimate, but that is not practical. 123 00:07:59,500 --> 00:08:02,500 That's what I am saying, okay, right. 124 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:06,400 You know, here's easy to become a Buddhist but difficult to 125 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,300 become a Buddha. Okay. 126 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:12,100 Same thing with efficient tries to it's very difficult to become 127 00:08:12,100 --> 00:08:14,400 a Christ. But become a Christian is easy, 128 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,300 just sign on the dotted line, right? 129 00:08:16,700 --> 00:08:19,500 That's why. You know, I am a very, very 130 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:21,600 practical. Guru. 131 00:08:21,700 --> 00:08:23,800 Yes, no very practical down to the air. 132 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,200 I hear the nice not going to work and I just talking 133 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,500 philosophy, you know? And so tell me then on that 134 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,400 practical note. Yeah inside. 135 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:35,299 Yeah how do you according to your way? 136 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,600 Yeah, attain prosperity and Enlightenment. 137 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:40,900 Okay. In a minute. 138 00:08:40,900 --> 00:08:44,300 Yes. So yeah, in a minute. 139 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:53,600 One minute you use nine sounds to go, you know, 9 sounds and 140 00:08:53,600 --> 00:09:00,100 then some sounds you use like 10 seconds in one minute. 141 00:09:00,100 --> 00:09:02,300 Used a nine sounds. Okay. 142 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:04,900 Okay. Ah, the sound are, but 10 143 00:09:04,900 --> 00:09:08,700 seconds and who were ten psychosis vowels? 144 00:09:08,700 --> 00:09:13,400 Yeah, well, three bubbles we use, basically two of them. 145 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,400 And then how does it work? I have proved coming from kids, 146 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,800 using it in Toronto Canada. They use it only for 10 seconds. 147 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:31,300 They have these are kids 78, year-old and their grades go and 148 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:34,700 everything, you know, within one month of practice because they 149 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:37,000 don't have the ego, they have all the candy. 150 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,500 Yeah, it's a long notion that he had to get you know sit in 151 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:44,000 meditation for long hours to figure it out because the 152 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,300 marriage Ism is done through the mind because it's difficult to 153 00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:49,500 kill the Mind understood. Okay? 154 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,100 The mind is full of doubts and it is going to create all the. 155 00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:58,200 So all these meditations have to lead to a Timeless Zone, which 156 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,800 is non mind. And there, even one minute is a 157 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,100 long time. So, the Yogi's talk about period 158 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:10,000 of time, call Alabang loving is 250th division of a second. 159 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:17,400 A second, is this and 250th say, Division is inconceivable, but 160 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,100 that is the time taken to change everything in your life, okay? 161 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:24,000 Provider if we can get to that state, okay? 162 00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:27,200 So it's the wrong notion that you should go and sit in 163 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,900 meditation for a long time. These sounds are capable of 164 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:38,400 bringing you that knowledge that can change the entire material, 165 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,200 and spiritual structure. You give us. 166 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,500 Could you demonstrate the The Sounds? 167 00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:46,300 Now, is how Okay. Yeah, you use the sound you 168 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:54,600 close your eyes and then use the sound are for 10 seconds of at 169 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,200 the root chakra. And then you can see visualizing 170 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:03,100 the, you don't, you just focus attention on the root chakra and 171 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:09,300 then you go to the heart chakra and jail for 10 seconds. 172 00:11:09,900 --> 00:11:14,200 And then you go to the the throat chakra. 173 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:21,100 Ah ma 5 seconds and then you go to the third eye chakra and say 174 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:27,800 home for 10 seconds who this is a total of 35 seconds. 175 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:33,400 For the first part of the one minute meditation. 176 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:39,000 The rest of the things is pipes. I'm now Ma shivaya again, you 177 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,900 say them at the different chakras. 45, Seat. 178 00:11:44,900 --> 00:11:48,000 So total of nine sounds in one minute. 179 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:53,500 That's a no, no, nothing. You don't even have to sit down 180 00:11:53,500 --> 00:11:55,200 even when you are having a shower. 181 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:03,300 You can do that. The whole idea is It can edit 182 00:12:03,300 --> 00:12:06,600 any moment, the sounds are very, very powerful. 183 00:12:06,700 --> 00:12:10,300 Even one sound is enough, a sound with the, what is it 184 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:14,500 doing? The sound is, is God, you know, 185 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:17,300 the even in the Bible, in the beginning, there was the word 186 00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:19,800 and the Word was with God and the sound. 187 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,800 Ow is the sound is God, the sound? 188 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,500 Are this imitation Sanskrit? Yeah, the word is really, what 189 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:29,300 the sound is home. Yeah. 190 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,500 Yeah the warmest. Sounds. 191 00:12:31,900 --> 00:12:34,700 Oh yeah, woman. Whoo, Mama right. 192 00:12:34,700 --> 00:12:39,100 Is 0 becomes home, the home is a leader. 193 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:43,900 Derivative the first sound is ah and if you have the primordial 194 00:12:43,900 --> 00:12:46,800 sound that's the term meditation that I gave in dire. 195 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,500 No. Yes. 196 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:49,400 Well I was traveling in California. 197 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,400 This being appeared before me and said they don't blah blah 198 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,100 and bark, like a dog. There is a simple technique to 199 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:59,500 attract anything understand this. 200 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,700 You know, you create a baby, the same energy to create a you can 201 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:08,800 when you can create a baby, take the same energy and create a 202 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,800 house or a car or anything that you want and it is understanding 203 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,100 the seminal energy that is at the root chakra, which you waste 204 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:21,900 to procreate and then you can take that energy to the third 205 00:13:21,900 --> 00:13:26,700 eye chakra and and use it. So, and the sound of creation 206 00:13:26,700 --> 00:13:32,300 is, ah, When you create a baby, you are in ecstasy, how whether 207 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:38,300 you are white black, anybody is in the throes of joy and ecstasy 208 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:43,400 and the Ecstasy is creation and that is, ah, so instead of 209 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:48,000 wasting the energy at the bottom of the church, the Lord chakra, 210 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:51,100 take it to the third eye chakra. And then there is a meditation 211 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:56,100 where you do with which you can do anything that you want to do. 212 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,800 Okay? So are you saying So I'm very 213 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,200 familiar with the ideas of you taking. 214 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,500 Yeah well you know because my background in taoism and Chinese 215 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:06,100 medicine. Yeah we talked about taking 216 00:14:06,100 --> 00:14:09,400 sexual cheat like and circulating it around. 217 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,800 I think what you're saying to bring it up to the survey and 218 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,200 then he what Ella? And then the mm and then 219 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:22,100 impregnate the thought. With this energy that you raised 220 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:25,800 from the 6th chakra and bring it to a third chakra, third eye 221 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,600 chakra, that's the thought of fraud already or not, not a, not 222 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,500 a higher house, whatever you want. 223 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:36,000 Even Enlightenment, visualize, visualize any, what you want? 224 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,400 What do you want? And then that manifest. 225 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,100 So this is the oh this is this is the core of what you're 226 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:46,500 teaching, this is my teaching. This is the technique that Wayne 227 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:52,300 Dyer Teaching and then I had given him permission to do that 228 00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:55,400 and I love million people are doing this now. 229 00:14:55,900 --> 00:14:57,400 Yeah. Yeah. 230 00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:00,300 They're pulling the Sexual Energy up. 231 00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:03,100 Yeah. Up the spine and down across the 232 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:07,000 head to the third of the third eye, and then they ritualize, 233 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,200 how's your home? You know, nothing, you know. 234 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,200 My Philosophy is, don't blah blah. 235 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,900 If given a chance, I don't want to blah blah because even if it 236 00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:18,800 is a very sophisticated, Educated blah blah. 237 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,800 Blah ultimately it's blah blah. So what has to happen is to give 238 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,000 you a real technique? Yeah. 239 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,000 That can you know at the end of the day, what matters is you 240 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,500 need a home? You need a car or in a job or 241 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:34,300 endured a television show, or whatever you need. 242 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:38,400 Huh? And nothing needs to be created 243 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,300 and this is the process. So there are some million plus 244 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:46,100 people across the world. Basically it's the efforts of 245 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:48,900 Wayne Dyer. You know, yeah, they're here. 246 00:15:48,908 --> 00:15:52,800 We gon be everywhere on public television and doing it. 247 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,400 And yes, and then he put out a book and dedicated the book, 248 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,900 manifest your destiny, and it's based on this. 249 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Yeah. And based on this. 250 00:16:03,100 --> 00:16:04,600 Exactly. Yeah, we still have. 251 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,400 So you, you have your destiny in control. 252 00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:11,200 No nobody else. So what are the results that 253 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:11,800 you're seeing? SRI? 254 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,400 Siva from Mendoza, Turtles, like people will gossip what 255 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,200 incident, you know, you can, I have Amanda did with people like 256 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,700 at the bottom line and I broke a very broke and then they can, 257 00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:27,100 they want to have a Mercedes-Benz, they can hold the 258 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:30,700 image in the third eye and impregnate the damage. 259 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:33,000 So, they might end up with a Mercedes Benz, with no money to 260 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,900 put gas on it. You know, that's why that Nanny. 261 00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:37,200 That's why I'm saying it could happen. 262 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,900 That's why, you know, if he's here. 263 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:42,000 The Bill Gates is a College. Dropout, Larry Ellison is a 264 00:16:42,008 --> 00:16:44,700 College Dropout. Steve Jobs is a College Dropout. 265 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,400 There are so many PhD guys who went to school with me? 266 00:16:47,500 --> 00:16:49,600 We are making $10 an hour. So sorry. 267 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,200 Ah, what do you do? So, you know, mind has not got 268 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,100 me. Anyway. 269 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,700 Sure. Right, by Bill Gates always 270 00:16:56,700 --> 00:16:59,900 wanted even when he was a boy. I was should be a 271 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,200 multi-billionaire. That's what it is. 272 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,400 You know if you are worried about your basically saying is 273 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,800 he kept feeding that image. Of course. 274 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,200 He kept in powers and energizing it that's what it is. 275 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,200 And that like a fundamental principle like lecture like 276 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,200 hundred Hilton when he was when he had no money, he did not 277 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,800 think like where the gas money is going to come from. 278 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,400 He wanted to buy the Waldorf Astoria own way. 279 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,599 The Queen of England when he had no money for the next meal. 280 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:29,200 He got the picture of all the overstory. 281 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,900 I must get it. I must get it, it took him seven 282 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:38,300 years or so, to get it. But he meditated on it but 283 00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:42,500 before then he meditated he created about thousands of 284 00:17:42,508 --> 00:17:47,600 Hilton Hotels. So yes, only a commitment to 285 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,800 what you want to get and not asking where the gas money is 286 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,000 coming from. That's where the problem starts. 287 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:57,800 So I understand how then I know it's a very it's a coherent 288 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,600 principle from a daoist point of view. 289 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,600 We have different other things to do. 290 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,300 Yeah, you're not down. I rule out doubt. 291 00:18:04,700 --> 00:18:08,200 If I want to manifest something, No matter what you are going to 292 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,000 say, or somebody else is going to say, this is what it is. 293 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,000 I want a wardrobe. Astoria, wonderful, group. 294 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,600 Astoria Waldorf Astoria. That's the Hilton model. 295 00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:18,700 You know, then I recommended bug be my guest. 296 00:18:18,700 --> 00:18:21,800 He said, I wrote this book because I have been so poor and 297 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,100 I could get to this level, come to my hotel, stay there, take 298 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:28,500 this book free, and this is everyone should have a dream. 299 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,100 And then on this dream Manifest, this is a positive philosophy. 300 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,900 Okay, fine. You know, being in a doubt means 301 00:18:36,300 --> 00:18:41,100 You know, being in Satan in to use a religious language because 302 00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:44,000 doubt is negativity or the bottom lash. 303 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,900 Oh, okay. Understand the moment. 304 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:51,300 You doubt it, you have lost it. How do you apply the same 305 00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:54,300 principle you made it? Clear about how to apply it for 306 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:56,700 one's own Prosperity. How do you apply it? 307 00:18:56,700 --> 00:19:00,300 Then, also, for enlightenment, that's a bit of a subtler than 308 00:19:00,300 --> 00:19:03,300 gaining Enlightenment is, I mean, how do you know, for 309 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:05,300 instance, visualize Enlightenment, right? 310 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:08,000 What is enlightenment? You know, it seems to go back to 311 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,600 the Buddhist idea of emptiness and yeah forms that that's not 312 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,100 necessarily Enlightenment if you go to Babaji he wouldn't accept 313 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:18,700 as a the Buddha's Enlightenment, as Enlightenment Enlightenment, 314 00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:23,200 a decorative. Yeah, he would say, the ability 315 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,100 to do everything is Enlightenment now, the ability 316 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:28,000 to lose. Everything is Enlightenment 317 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,500 losing your thought processes in Lightman, not Enlightenment. 318 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:35,100 There are a lot of guys. Chanting mantras Rama Rama Shiva 319 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:37,800 Shiva. And then And on the street, they 320 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,400 are 55 years old. Because the guru's who came here 321 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,800 they said, this is the best thing that can be done. 322 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,600 And are now they are all 55 year old. 323 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,100 They are not, you know, nobody is willing to hire them henna. 324 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:52,000 And are they have homeless? What are you going to do? 325 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,000 So there are two things that I teach you got to be very careful 326 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,900 about the material reality about the spiritual reality. 327 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,500 So Enlightenment is not a losing process. 328 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,300 Where you lose your thing, will you lose your ego? 329 00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:08,400 You lose your mind and then be on the street. 330 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,000 That's not enlightenment. Okay, that's the wrong. 331 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,800 Wrong concept of Enlightenment are losing. 332 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,600 Your thought process is not Enlightenment. 333 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,500 So a lot of people say, I want mukti, the multi has been very 334 00:20:20,500 --> 00:20:23,800 big term these days is Liberation, what are you going 335 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,700 to do? If you become thoughtless, then 336 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:30,200 that's the Dave, coma condition, you have no interest in life. 337 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,600 Then how how are things going to work in this life for you? 338 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,600 Huh. I rested here. 339 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,700 This wrong philosophy, you know, people have to take 340 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:41,700 responsibility for What they are teaching. 341 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:45,600 And the people who go to people and this is a very good point. 342 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,800 Yeah. They also are gonna my God, 343 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,100 what's going to happen? At the end of the day, I had to 344 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:52,000 pay for my gas. Okay, Circle. 345 00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:54,300 All somebody else has to pay, okay? 346 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,600 For the gas, you can nobody is going to give free gas for an 347 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,400 enlightened person, okay, so it's not a good idea to lose 348 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,000 your ego is not a good idea to lose your thought process. 349 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,600 It is good to understand your ego. 350 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,100 It's good. The stand, your thought process 351 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,700 and Empower them, and give them a high self-esteem. 352 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,100 That's basically my teaching I understand. 353 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:21,200 Okay. There's one piece I still want 354 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,300 to get though. Okay. 355 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,400 Which is about, I'm going to translate what I've heard. 356 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,100 Yeah, into a word. Yes. 357 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,900 Which is balanced between the part. 358 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:34,400 That's true. It's really balanced. 359 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,800 Yeah, that's all about the book is about. 360 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,200 Yeah, prosperity and Enlightenment. 361 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:39,400 I understand. Yeah. 362 00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:42,500 What I want to do is, uh, Understand how using your 363 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:46,700 Technique. Yeah, Enlightenment is realized. 364 00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:49,500 And what is it that you mean by Enlightenment? 365 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,700 I understand that you don't think. 366 00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:53,900 Yeah. I mean they Enlightenment is an 367 00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:58,700 ability to stay in a non ego, non mind state, which is the 368 00:21:58,708 --> 00:22:04,000 state of empowerment of being in a place to manifest, your 369 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,500 thoughts to be able to do things that you want to do to help 370 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,600 others to be compassionate. Okay, and this is what in like 371 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,900 Monday. Okay okay, okay, okay, that's 372 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:19,300 good. No it brings a balanced. 373 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,700 Yes. Yeah, our world sorely needs of 374 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:25,800 Enlightenment is not running away from like, are always 375 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,900 meditating all the time and Enlightenment means being in a 376 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:35,900 very, very powerful intelligent level of existence, right? 377 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,400 You know, in a non by Dottie goes, and then use that to you. 378 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,700 Enrich life. Enhance life. 379 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,900 Okay, so that there is not much suffering, that's to me. 380 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:51,600 It's a pleasure to have you on talking about this. 381 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,300 Because for me, I spend a lot of time saying this to people. 382 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:57,900 Yeah. And sometimes they think I'm, 383 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:01,100 you know, you know what happened to people. 384 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:04,500 Don't understand that you can't. You're supposed to be spiritual. 385 00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:09,200 Meaning a while Spirit to move you and to animate. 386 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,100 Yeah, but also, We're living in a material world and it should 387 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:18,500 be appreciated and enjoyed. Yeah, completely, yeah, but I 388 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:23,200 must I must tell you that I have not had much success with people 389 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:29,000 because people always want a like I want to just go and 390 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,100 spaced out I can't because it's easy to do that. 391 00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:35,300 I know. Okay I will go and hang out in 392 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:39,000 Sedona some sleep. All right, so I asked a person 393 00:23:39,300 --> 00:23:43,200 is what it is. You know how much you say they 394 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,200 are going to again you know, just as lining up for a Broadway 395 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,100 show you know, and crab borrowing money from credit 396 00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:54,300 card, you know, escapism example, going to a Broadway 397 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:57,500 show is not different from this. Exactly, go into is good. 398 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,000 That's right. It's in plus unit exactly. 399 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,200 And when somebody goes to a guru it also means that they're not 400 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,500 yeah cultivating their own shop team, that's there anyway, you 401 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:08,100 know? And that's not fair, either, 402 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:11,500 definitely, you know, it's it's not that I'm not saying that you 403 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:13,500 should not go to a guru, he can Empower you. 404 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:17,100 But then there have been just a little place there is. 405 00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:18,900 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. 406 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:23,300 You know, everything plays and everyone plays his or her role 407 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:27,100 in the larger sphere. I mean, I always say to people, 408 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:30,000 you know, either. Everything is God or nothing is 409 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,300 God, take your choice and you can live from either space. 410 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,500 Right? You know your opinion is valid. 411 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:38,500 Yeah, whatever it is. You can't make some things God 412 00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:42,000 like, like spirit and not Material World, right? 413 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,700 It doesn't work. That's why I say that poverty 414 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,600 is, is not Divinity. Poverty is not Divinity, and 415 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,400 also money is not evil. Only misuse of money is evil. 416 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,100 Exactly. Yeah, exactly. 417 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,200 It's really true. Lack of money is evil. 418 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:03,600 You know, I think that there's validity to that because, you 419 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,200 know, if you cannot contribute to society and we do that, often 420 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,700 materially in some way, your then becoming a drain. 421 00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:14,100 As they say, you're either part of the solution or part of the 422 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:17,000 problem, right? And if you cannot sustain, I 423 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,100 mean, I look at things and anyway, from a sustainability 424 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,300 all of it, and if you cannot self-sustained, no, it means. 425 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:27,800 You're costing society and the Earth, right? 426 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:31,000 Money, a certain kind of currency whatever that currency, 427 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,500 I agree. So people who are lowered, 428 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,700 overly spiritual, they have been a boo resource. 429 00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:43,500 Maybe lived in a San Franciscan Monastery for a long time. 430 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,700 In many lifetimes, spiritualizing, their 431 00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:50,100 Consciousness, rejecting wealth. They, you know, that's why it 432 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,500 takes time. Then they will eventually come 433 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:54,500 back. That's the that's to me is 434 00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:59,200 Golden Age. Yes, yes, yes, yes, one, we have 435 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,200 less than one minute left, but it only takes you a minute to 436 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,700 answer a very Question. So karma, you know, everybody 437 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:09,100 comes in with their own karmic picture, right? 438 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:12,200 And are you saying also that through your? 439 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,800 Yeah, practice no way. And that is a teaching, you 440 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,000 know, the cartomizer goes that quickly. 441 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,800 Yeah, Karma. It takes thousands of years to 442 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,600 develop and one minute to let go, no, there's another 443 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,800 technique, the for karma bursting, okay. 444 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:28,900 It's karma is here. Yes, in the throat. 445 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,500 And they held in church on the throat chakra, it's called 446 00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:35,700 Adam's Apple. That's also karma in the 447 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:39,200 Christian sense, okay? And then there is a particular 448 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,200 meditation that I teach for karma. 449 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,900 You know, you just put a blue light and share this round 3 450 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:49,200 neela kantam and you look under and as you go on saying that 451 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,500 then you blew karma is only certain in a vested interest in 452 00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:57,800 a thought or a relationship or her job, right? 453 00:26:57,900 --> 00:26:59,800 It has too much. Yeah, it has. 454 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,900 Leave that place and then find another place to put your mind 455 00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:08,800 off shore. And that shift, she takes place 456 00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:11,500 when you do that another, that's not this meditate. 457 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:13,500 That's another meditation is also in the book. 458 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,400 Okay morning. Well, it's been wonderful to 459 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,600 have you on to talk about this. Let's show everybody the book 460 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,000 again in one minute folks. We just heard how you can 461 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,200 literally transform your life at and if you do it for a few 462 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,900 minutes, I don't even want to think about it. 463 00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:31,200 Thanks again for being with us. Absolutely. 464 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,700 Well, I hope you enjoyed that as much as I want and also that you 465 00:27:36,708 --> 00:27:40,700 got enriched as much as I do. So on that note this is not a 466 00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:41,000 raven.