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Hello and welcome back to a 
better world. 

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This is your host Mitchell, J 
Raven and we're very glad you're

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joining us again. 
Today. 

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Today, we're going to have a 
Another very interesting show. 

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We have two, lovely guests with 
us, Deva premal and Mitten. 

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They were in New York recently. 
Performing at cyanide house, it 

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was sponsored by be yoga. 
And they gave us a beautiful 

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concert and really it was more 
than a concert. 

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It was, by no means any ordinary
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It was a time of creating a 
spiritual space where everyone 

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was participating. 
They engaged the audience, To 

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sing with them. 
And it was really a beautiful 

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scaffolding of sound that emerge
from that space because of the 

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way they conduct their concerts.
So we're very glad to have you 

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on today. 
Yeah, he's been traveling the 

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world for now, at this point, 
some years, right? 

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And you've recorded like nine or
ten CDs. 

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You've been playing together for
about 12 years and loving each 

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other, because that's obvious, 
it comes. 

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He's through with the busic 
magnificently. 

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Yeah. 
What originally promote kind of 

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inspired you to go in this 
direction as a musician and it 

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just all happened, you know it 
wasn't a decision or it wasn't 

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even when you didn't know about,
you know, I didn't even wish for

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it. 
It's the most beautiful thing 

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which happened but it just all 
fell into place. 

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First, I met me 10 and I wasn't 
singing, then I wasn't a 

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musician and I just fell in love
with him as a Person is the 

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beautiful person is that's a 
good end reason to fall in love.

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And you talking about, I mean I 
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background with my mother being 
a musician and my father being a

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drama. 
So it's kind of in my blood and 

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it's in my childhood. 
I had lessons with violin and 

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piano and stuff, but it was 
very, I wasn't exceptionally, 

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great added or anything, you 
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But I had a musical ear. 
And then when I, when I first 

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Fell in love with me 10. 
I thought, maybe we could sing 

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together, you know? 
Because I knew I could somehow 

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hold a tune that much. 
I knew, right? 

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But you hold a Bhajan, we 
actually fell in love in ashram.

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The music is born out of 
spirituality and our connection 

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with the Divine. 
So we never played anywhere 

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other than international. 
Well, before I was a rock and 

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roll musician for many years 
before, but I'd stop playing 

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music for many British rock and 
roll a British Rock. 

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The instruction. 
Oh yeah, that's a long time ago.

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I forgotten most of it. 
Fortunately but the the mantras 

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came purely out of a space of 
Devotion to a master and, and we

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eventually left India and 
started to share it in the west.

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And it just kind of organically 
grow into what you saw the other

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night. 
It was it's never ever been a 

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performance. 
Never been a decision. 

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Let's make music to be famous or
let's make music to do. 

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Whatever you saw the other 
night, it's only very or for us.

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It's a very organic procedure. 
It's actually like to call it 

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Tantra, you know, with clothes 
on, you know, just sit there and

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we just share our love and our 
connection to the Divine through

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the music. 
That's our thing. 

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Well, that much was really 
clear, actually really close. 

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Yeah, yeah, it's true. 
What Master fan asked wishing 

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redfish. 
Yes. 

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The sex guru. 
Yeah, I wanted to Therefore, all

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the fun. 
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know there was some interesting 
publicity but after twenty odd 

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years and of meditation is 
meditations and his guidance, I 

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can only be totally grateful for
for what he gave us from our was

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still in his meditations at 11 
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Oh yeah, she's been, she's been 
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she chaotic meditation. 
I did that many years going. 

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Graduates me when I went to 
graduate school. 

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Very nice. 
Yeah. 

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It was designed for the Western 
mind, you know. 

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Yes, designed to help anybody 
quieten, exactly. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So, you know, he was a 

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interesting guy. 
God created. 

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A lot of waves and and I'll be 
always taught be grateful to him

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now. 
Yeah, now, I feel like with any 

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Master, he Really an exception. 
You know, I mean he the other 

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person that comes to mind who is
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Western psychology. 
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of these men, Osho rajneesh and 
Troopa. 

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I mean from Pain went to Oxford 
and studied psychology 

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comparative religion, Etc, and 
English and Osho just had this 

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natural affinity for the Western
mind, me just like, Got us. 

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You know, you know, I mean 
exactly. 

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It just came through a lot. 
I think the difference is that, 

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you know, I'll show you, he 
didn't have this lineage of the 

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Tibetan teachings. 
He was basically making it up as

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you went along and that was the 
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You would always kept in the 
moment and challenged, you know,

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this is very amazing and yet at 
the same time, though, he's a 

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tremendous amount of learning 
behind us, you know? 

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I mean, it was really notable, I
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Kierkegaard and schopenhauer. 
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extraordinary. 
Know you could speak on Zen for 

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month and become a Zen master 
and he could speak on Tanger. 

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The next month to become 
attention master and it's 

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pictures that are very good 
enough. 

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I used to just love, listening 
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drive, just loved his voice. 
We're just like, permeate into 

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your bones, you know? 
So that's where you met in India

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in Pune. 
And you true love, you began 

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singing and your voice is so 
beautiful right now. 

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It really is. 
You just hit these tones. 

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And now I understand if you've 
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since you were 11, there's no, 
there's nobody. 

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That's what is never. 
She's never sung in a club. 

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She's never said, because she 
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right? 
Exactly. 

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It was born of love and of 
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I mean, it's really totally 
untrained, but I make sure to 

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get this today. 
I just I just got discovered 

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your voice changes when you 
change inside, you know it's 

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like a reflection of your inner 
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Yeah. 
And I'm really terrible with 

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technique or I don't practice 
really but I just always could 

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feel my voice changing like in 
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sound different and the great 
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You know, so when you, when you 
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change your insides. 
It's like, you know, exactly. 

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You do power Awful because 
they're not disconnected, right?

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No, I know. 
You mean, were you raised in the

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ashram? 
No, not really. 

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I mean, I became his disciple 
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then I kept going to school, I 
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the Marla, you know, it's with 
Alexis, in Germany must have 

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been popular. 
I don't know. 

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I think everybody was too shy to
ask me like what it was about. 

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Yeah. 
Reserved, you know, I have to 

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bring the that's a nice. 
I like actually to be in Germany

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because you don't get any, any, 
any hassle of vibe somehow, you 

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know, people are very much in 
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that, I like that. 
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what happens now. 
So it's sort of like a space of 

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let be let you know. 
Let's will sort of. 

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Yeah. 
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going on on the inside the outer
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going to bother you, and you can
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a rock musician. 
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spiritual life that brought 
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bhajans and chants and mantras. 
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Yeah, basically, the music came 
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I'd stop playing music. 
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discovered meditation was not 
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Justify my existence through 
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So it was a gift for me not to 
not to play anymore and let that

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old life go and everything else 
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She was like for me was a 
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back it came back and very it 
came back in a fresh and new and

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very innocent way, you know, and
I've been a songwriter forever. 

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So the songs the songs were 
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And most of them were just we'll
all of them were just songs of 

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gratitude you know and for the 
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basically what I've been doing. 
So you are you write the songs 

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that you do all of them? 
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bhajans? 
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compose ourselves, The Melodies 
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Or we have friends who come in, 
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friends. 
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good, Melodies. 
And so, we have a little family 

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of Deva premal, support support 
people, you know? 

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Yeah, it's a very beautiful 
family. 

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I'm sure. 
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is too and you will all have a 
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At the end of the show, they'll 
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us. 
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The there's this like, golden 
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As I noticed your color, it 
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of the way. 
Your two voices. 

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Relate to, you know, you've got 
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masculine and The Feminine 
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complementary that it just 
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You know, it's almost like 
giving birth in a way. 

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It's like the male and the 
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creating a third being, you 
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One on the level of sound that 
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listening and being there, you 
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concert, or what have you, I was
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and meditate and just totally 
ride the wave that you guys kind

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of started, you know? 
That's a, that's a healing, you 

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know? 
Yeah, that's why we do it. 

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We do it. 
We traveling so much and we 

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traveled in, like, least for the
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of the year, we travel You know,
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and then we take a couple of 
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road again and we've been doing 
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Now that only way you can do 
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music, it's a healing. 
Yeah, it's a relaxation, you 

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know? 
And that's what like a coming 

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home. 
It's coming at home and it's 

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also so beautiful because he 
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level and Not only with it, you 
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there. 
We always invite everyone to 

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sing. 
But then also people come and 

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meet us in after the concert and
you meet all these beautiful 

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people and it's in your hug and 
it's just such a family feeling,

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you know, it's really so 
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and people meet you, they go via
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So you've got a happy family. 
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It's kind of Woodstock which 
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Be visited, right. 
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but it's part of a it's about, 
it's part of our nourishment, 

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that that interval we never want
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want to leave the place. 
We just hang out there with 

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people so we can connect and 
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It's not we're not interested in
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creating a performance or yeah, 
that kind of energy because then

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the pressure pressures off, you 
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Like if you remember the concert
the other night, there was a 

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couple of mistakes on one of the
pieces, but it didn't faze 

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anybody or anything. 
It's not hilarious. 

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Yeah, and that's really 
comfortable, you know, he 

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basically said I'm lost. 
That was just so beautiful 

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because it showed some of the 
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some of the mechanics like, wait
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I really got to be with where I 
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You know, I have to be really 
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going. 
Musically. 

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It was, it was in very intense. 
Got a song with a line in it. 

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I've got the courage to be wrong
and that gives us a lot of 

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freedom, you know, need the 
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There's no problem. 
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Isn't it interesting? 
When people just tell the truth,

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what happens, it's wild. 
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collectively you know, as an 
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you know? 
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around and also performing with,
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Holiness, the Dalai Lama 
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there was phenomenal, wasn't it?
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New York. 
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most intimate. 
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for scientists and religious 
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intimate Gathering Colorado in 
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an intimate pre-concert 
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15 scientists and Alejandra 
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there was questions to his 
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practices and but mainly it was 
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relationship of quantum physics.
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spirituality and the Confluence 
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love it. 
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situation to to just play a 
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in the concert in the evening 
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But this pre-conference was an 
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meet him and and play plays 
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tardy to tally. 
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gift, wasn't it? 
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special and it was also very 
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I know it was one of those 
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warrior quality, as well as the 
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if it is very present and very 
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is very easy and relaxed. 
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this compassion, you just feel 
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So strong. 
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in the beginning. 
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also kind of cold start. 
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there and standing in front of 
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Yeah. 
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was just the silence in the 
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It was like, magic. 
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wanted to sing his favorite 
manager. 

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He's very good. 
Very good. 

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You know, and and then we 
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That's your Indian accent. 
Not your job. 

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Anton, no. 
No. 

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I'm sorry, I'm about you bet 
it's not so good as me. 

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Not to worry not, you know 
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promotes sang on the on this 
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there was a hush in the room and
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beautiful silence when we sang 
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interpreters, the scientists 
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It's just silence. 
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until he is a very good. 
Beautiful, beautiful. 

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I didn't say very good Beauty. 
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will never forget. 
Sure, what a great honor to do 

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that before him in his language.
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larger sense we've made so 
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I think so, because it was 
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Mentor. 
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to sing it for him when he went 
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or so before, as for his 
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So we knew it was a special 
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of the journey. 
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many amazing such as your life 
and such as who. 

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Yeah, well, I mean, the people 
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know. 
Eckhart Tolle is is one of our 

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favorite philosophers and 
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He came to a concert of algae 
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Germany in the so we ended up 
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hanging out in the dressing 
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And now we're going to do a 
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play for is Retreat and Ramesh 
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So we played for and, and even 
share, whatever played for sure.

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She has the other end of the 
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of our mentors to Gayatri 
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That she loves to do yoga to one
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It is called the essence. 
Oh, really sir. 

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Favorite City to do yoga too. 
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touched her so much that you 
wanted to include it in her tour

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with she just did was gonna Fair
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So, she's been seeing this guy a
tree in hours and to this, like,

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I don't know, 10,000 people 
every night blessing, the whole,

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it's just so precious that it 
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Do you think she has any idea? 
Yes. 

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Yeah, I do. 
I mean you did you explain it to

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her? 
She means she's not stupid. 

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No, no. 
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specific, you know, but I really
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doing and that's why I was 
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like I was we were in tears you 
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this Arena of 10,000 people and 
Sher Singh in the Gayatri 

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Mantra. 
You know, that's amazing. 

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I'm like shit. 
Thank you. 

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And and even if the people don't
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know, it's it was raised 
subliminal, absolutely, no 

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matter what. 
You know, it's just kind of 

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funny. 
I'm just listening to the store,

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and I'm thinking, if somebody 
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this would be happening. 
You know, that share would be 

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singing, you know the Gayatri 
Mantra to thousands of thousands

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of people would say, I don't 
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You know, that's really 
unlikely. 

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You know, I was so drunk. 
I want to tell you that when she

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finished a Gayatri, the next 
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Perfect. 
It's perfect. 

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You know, so yeah, so that's the
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Yeah, sacred to the profane and 
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we'll listen, it's been just a 
real joy to have you here and 

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chatting with us about your 
lives and and your music and 

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it's it's really beautiful. 
I mean you're really helping to 

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spiritualize the planet really 
are and I have a chance now to 

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say that I've witnessed it, I've
been there and I feel like just 

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please keep going there's a lot 
more. 

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You have to do and you know 
fully what struck you make 

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Shirley thank you. 
Absolutely absolutely. 

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So would you grace us with a 
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Yeah, that would be great. 
Seen a lottery, see the lottery.

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Seen a lot of the world so many 
people on over, sit in myself. 

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Everywhere I go, each one of us 
you can for connection 

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everybody's on the phone. 
But nobody's home. 

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So how do we share? 
How do show and everybody's on 

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the line? 
Wasting time. 

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Hungry for connection. 
Reach Out And Touch someone. 

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Everybody's innocent here. 
Everybody's got a song to sing. 

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Everybody's got a private fear, 
reach out and take somebody's 

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hand. 
Here we stand. 

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As of God, WeChat 
got the MP3. 

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I got the mini disc. 
Got a world of information. 

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At my fingertips. 
I've got a young son. 

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Living with his Walkman. 
Just like he's looking for 

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connection. 
Reach Out And Touch someone. 

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Everybody is in the same here. 
Everybody's got a song to sing. 

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Everybody's got a private fear, 
reach out and take somebody's 

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Here We Stand, 
we reach it. 

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You have to go in there if 
you're going to do it like that.

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You can't do it that way. 
Okay. 

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We do it the long way. 
It's just okay. 

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Let me just do one more time. 
Let's try it one more time 

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because it's not. 
So it's it, it just condenses it

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a little. 
So we don't really think it's 

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worth it. 
Just trust me this time. 

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What I'm like I'll be with you 
try again. 

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Why do you always have this is 
It's good. 

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You cannot better.