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So thanks for being here. 
Hopefully y'all are a little 

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louder than the last bunch. 
Every time we like say 

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something, we go. 
We like, we like to laugh. 

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Yeah, we like to laugh. 
We like to have fun. 

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Yeah, we just want to start with
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we are, because you've probably 
heard for the 50th time that we 

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are Curtain Jace's kids and I 
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I'm a Michigander. 
I still think of myself as a 

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Michigander. 
This is a Tennesseer. 

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Tennessee and something like 
that. 

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That's the best because then you
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I see joke all the time, but we 
both felt like God put on our 

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hearts to go to Texas. 
I went to Texas for CF and I 

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it's a Bible institute in 
Dallas. 

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I went to CF and I, I went to, 
to Dallas to go to CF and I but 

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she, she went and I did not. 
He got convinced by a Best Buy 

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employee. 
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You know it was a pastor of 
another church. 

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Even worse, OK, he got convinced
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though he literally went to 
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And then he started working just
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And I went to school. 
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at a church in Rockwall, TX 
called Lakeshore, which is where

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we're at now. 
We work on staff there as the 

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worship covering the bottom of 
that microphone. 

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And I go silent. 
So if that happens, just say, 

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Jasmine, move your hand up. 
We both work there now. 

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We've been at that church since 
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So I got there in February of 
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So tell me that's not a God 
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Then the next two years was a 
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It was a friend zone. 
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It wasn't my choice. 
I'm just, I'm just letting that 

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be known. 
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two years and then in 2019 we 
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Literally the real story is that
I came home to Gaylord for 

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Christmas and my mom made me 
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I hate homework. 
I just, it's the most 

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predictable movies I've ever 
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is the same. 
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on like, Instagram where they 
just mock them and they go to 

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like, Home Depot and the girl, 
like, acts like something falls 

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and bumps into the guy, like the
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So I can't stand it. 
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I usually watch National 
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I just like, like informative 
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So Hallmark is like the end of 
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And she convinced me to watch 
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And sure enough, it was about a 
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best friends falling in love. 
And that night, never had had 

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this happen, never thought about
Tyler that way until I got home.

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Watch that movie. 
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I prayed. 
I was like, what am I saying out

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loud right now? 
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want me to end up with Tyler, 
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burned that bridge a long time 
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She did. 
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tear, I feel it still to the 
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It literally rolled down my 
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I was like, why am I crying? 
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When I got home, Tyler's sister 
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she texted me this was like 
right after and she texted me 

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and said, I have to tell you, I 
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you. 
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And she said, we were on a porch
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And I said, why was I crying? 
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moved on and he had another 
girlfriend in this dream and it 

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wasn't you. 
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porch. 
And I was like, that's so weird 

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that you just said that because 
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prayed and that was it, that 
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And that that lie, which was 
that text message cost me 200 

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bucks, but it worked. 
And here we and here we are, and

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we're married and we have kids, 
so there's no turning back, you 

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know? 
He did make that joke and I was 

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like, did you really do that? 
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We'll never know. 
So yeah, we started dating 2019.

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We had a COVID wedding. 
We had 38 people at our wedding.

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The parting gift was COVID to 30
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But we're still here. 
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Doing good we actually had what 
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a term now called a micro 
wedding and they came out during

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COVID. 
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wedding in the backyard of mom 
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happen. 
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end up proposing in that 
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So there's a little. 
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Texas is a free for all. 
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our own country for some odd 
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things, so. 
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This is so random. 
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to people in Texas. 
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kind of the same. 
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pride. 
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we put our pride on cups and 
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license plates and our cars in 
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their heart? 
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every state and go if if you 
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own country. 
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True. 
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So they're both very pride 
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We're thankful for Michigan and 
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been here, but we've been coming
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singing together here. 
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This is a beautiful church. 
I love, I love what's happening 

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here. 
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It feels like family even from 
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We love and we love the weather 
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We really do. 
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before we left and then we got 
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it's it's a really magical 
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So today we wanted to speak on 
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You're probably thinking 
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We're kind of going to go a 
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We truly believe both my life 
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utterly changed by the right 
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can be a spouse can be family. 
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the people around us, other 
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where we're headed. 
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the title, if you're taking 
notes is going to be made for 

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relationship. 
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through three types of 
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believe are going to change your
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them. 
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already, that's awesome. 
We'll probably give you a couple

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tools on how to invest in them. 
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take up a new one in one of the 
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give to you. 
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want you to write three types of
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The first one's going to be 
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to be peer, and the third one is
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Or what is it Protege. 
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OK, protege, We, we can say 
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Disciple. 
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relationships, we're going to 
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The scripture talks about it. 
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So we were, we were made, we 
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We're not made to be isolated. 
I'm an introvert and I like to 

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recharge by myself. 
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Seriously, kids just make things
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I don't want to talk about that.
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So you can literally say 
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Apparently, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
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for relationship. 
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Genesis, we think of the first 
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takes the fruit and now all of a
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he saw Adam and he said, he said
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created him a helper. 
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Scripture you see this this 
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Great Commission that says that 
we're sorry, not the Great 

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says, hey, what's what's the 
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He says love your Lord, your God
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and strength and love your 
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The entire law can be summed up 
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anything we say because it may 
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make sure that you, I mean, go, 
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To you, the more emails the 
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Yeah, yeah. 
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Jesus had many followers, many, 
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Just had many followers. 
He went into towns and hilled 

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everyone. 
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Jesus modeled it for us. 
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first one mentor. 
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walks with the wise becomes wise
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suffer harm. 
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there is no guidance a people 
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counselors there is safety. 
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mentor relationships look like? 
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look like pastors, they look 
like teachers, they look like 

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parents, spiritual parents, 
anybody who really has something

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that they've succeeded in life 
that really you want in your own

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life, that could be your mentor.
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some qualities that you 
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mentors. 
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to have a same, the same value 
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If you guys don't don't have the
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your life, it's not going to 
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I mean, we've seen it in the 
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everybody's truth is different, 
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So those people's your truths 
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That's all what, what is the 
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What the Bible says, that's what
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It's not, it's not how we were 
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does the Bible say about it? 
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church life coach, parents, 
spiritual parents, lots of 

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options, but they need to be 
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They need to have integrity. 
I'm going to say they need to be

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a Christian. 
There's someone that can help 

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you grow into all that God's 
called you to be and is, is 

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succeeding in life and something
that you hope to be succeeding 

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in. 
And there's so many benefits to 

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having a mentor in your life. 
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too old. 
You're never too young to have 

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these people. 
You never age out of this. 

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You don't, you never arrive, 
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God has made relationships for 
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So some benefits are you're 
going to grow beyond your own 

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capabilities. 
We have a lid. 

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We reach a capacity on our own, 
but we have other people to come

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alongside and point out blind 
spots, things that we don't see 

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in our own lives, though they 
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experience. 
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huge, huge, huge is 
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We need accountability. 
We need someone not just calling

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us out, but calling us up to 
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telling us what, where, where 
we're failing and things that we

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We have to have thick skin. 
We can't say, hey, I want you to

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be my mentor. 
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you're not doing great in this 
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So be aware that when you do ask
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and I want to let you know that 
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that you would like them to pour
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So in a good way, in a good way,
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have thick skin for that. 
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Too often we, we see these 
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as just like incredible, 
incredible people. 

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And they are, they're incredible
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God's made them. 
They're, they're incredible 

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people. 
But too often we idolize these 

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human beings, OK. 
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when your pastor or your teacher
or whoever fails, you just 

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leave. 
You give up, you give up hope. 

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It's too often we see people's 
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they leave Christianity all 
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Who's who is your God? 
Who were you idolizing? 

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Were you chasing, chasing the 
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relationship that we're going to
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You're going to have to be able 
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people for people, they're going
to fail. 

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They're going to mess up, but 
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change your life and call you up
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than you could ever do on your 
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That's also going to make 
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because you need to lower the 
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Sometimes that's not sometimes 
when people are dating, they're 

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like, you need to lift your 
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standards. 
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who has one thing that they're 
doing right and you're not doing

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it as good as them. 
That's all it takes it. 

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If they become like this life 
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and you bond and you develop a 
deeper relationship and they can

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give you advice on multiple 
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Cool. 
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say, what's an area in my life 
I'm struggling in and who's 

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someone around me who's doing it
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And guess what? 
They don't have to be your 

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mentor for life. 
You can maybe connect with them.

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Maybe you grow on some things 
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Like have him over for dinner a 
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you're bonding. 
Well, if you're clicking, invite

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him to give opinions on another 
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the one that you kind of, you 
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mentor in the 1st place for you.
But I think the more clear you 

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are about what your expectation 
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be all these things to you like 
God already is to you, then it's

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really easy to find them. 
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parts about someone that asked 
me to be their mentor is they 

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just took me to lunch one day 
and said, hey, I'd love to learn

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this, this and this from you. 
Can you teach me that? 

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That was it. 
I was like, sure, what does that

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look like to you? 
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maybe an hour in the week where 
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week? 
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That's hard. 
That's a sacrifice. 

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But that's what God's called us 
to love people, right? 

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but we always say this is you 
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everyday life. 
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people are going to see 
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And you're, if you're in this 
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for a mentor, take that step. 
Ask him out to coffee, ask him 

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to lunch and ask him if they'll 
kind of help you in the area 

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that you're struggling in. 
It's so easy and doesn't have to

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be scary, doesn't have to be 
lifelong, you can just take it 

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day by day and if it becomes 
more cool. 

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But that's not necessarily the 
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Yeah, the, I think the, the 
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mentor in the, the protege, 
because there has to be a 

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conversation at some point where
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hey, can can, you know, you 
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And, and the other thing, the 
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a wise man once told me, he 
said, just because someone is, 

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is struggling in one area of 
their life doesn't mean you ride

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off that person as a whole, 
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Just because people have failed 
in certain areas or whatever the

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case is, that doesn't mean that 
they don't have wisdom in, in 

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that other area. 
So, so be aware that we have 

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mentors in our own life. 
I mean, just Curt and Jace, 

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amazing mentors, especially 
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what we've done for a way longer
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It's so nice to have them ask. 
Them questions about ministry 

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all the time. 
Every, every time that they come

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into town, we stay up the first 
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until like midnight and I'll let
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So it's fine. 
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marriage in a little bit, but 
I'm not, I'm not speaking on 

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that. 
There's there's another group of

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people in our lives. 
There are actually our executive

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pastors back home, Nick and Liz 
to cold. 

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They're Canadians, but they're 
good people and they have 

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become, they have become just 
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They've loved on us. 
I remember the first year we had

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Mila, we were struggling like, 
what do we do? 

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How do we both work full time? 
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me watch Mila on Tuesdays and 
Thursdays for you. 

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And and she didn't charge us at 
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She just loved our kid. 
Then I remember one night 

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Jasmine and I got in this huge 
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This is what we like to call 
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three day fight. 
You know what I'm doing? 

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Yeah, we're still, we're still 
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That's a three-year fight. 
So, so, so we're on the way over

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to their house because we're 
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our daughter and, and we get in 
the parking lot or we get in 

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their driveway and we're there 
for an hour just like duking it 

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out, like, you know, just going 
to going out. 

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Always when you have to be 
somewhere. 

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Yep. 
Like when you have a time that 

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you told someone you're going to
be. 

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Or like every single time that 
we've ever gotten in a big fight

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in the car. 
It's always when his family's in

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town and when we're meeting at a
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We're going to lunch. 
Like don't ever meet at always 

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dinner at the home always. 
Because if we ever choose to eat

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out, it's. 
Someone else? 

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'S home that happens. 
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So there we are, we're in the 
we're in their driveway and 

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we're just for for an hour. 
We're supposed to pick up mile 

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like an hour and a half. 
And we're before this and and I 

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look at Jasmine, I was like, 
Hey, we got to go pick up. 

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We got to go get mile out of the
out of there like this. 

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We shouldn't have done this. 
So they're they're in the house 

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waiting for us to come pick up 
the child. 

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They have three other kids, They
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And here we are just yelling at 
each other. 

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We need to at least go get our 
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other in front of our kid. 
You know, that sounds like 

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wisdom. 
So so we I look at Jasmine, she 

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goes that's fine, but I'm not 
faking it. 

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And that was. 
You know when you're in a fight 

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and then someone comes by and 
you're like, hi, I was like, we 

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can go in there, but I'm not 
putting on a smile just because 

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it's Nick and Liz. 
Like I'm going to tell them 

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what's really happening. 
And so we walked in and that's 

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exactly what we did. 
We're like, we sat on opposite 

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sides of the living room. 
And this isn't our first year of

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marriage after transitioning 
into ministry. 2 full time jobs 

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at the same time, a new baby and
then managing we had family come

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in for. 
I'm just letting you know this 

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is not the best idea. 
We lived out of state, so we had

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each of our moms back-to-back 
stay with us for three weeks 

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straight. 
Each each. 

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It doesn't matter how much you 
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So they came and back-to-back, 
both our moms and we were just 

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at it. 
I had a list for his mom, He had

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a list for my mom. 
And actually that was really the

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main cause of the fights was 
like family boundaries, like 

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what we were going to do, what 
our moms could do, what they 

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couldn't do, all these things. 
So just navigate. 

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We walked in, we said we're so 
upset right now. 

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I'm mad at him. 
This is why he's like, I don't 

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appreciate this from her. 
We just went off and they just 

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with ease. 
We're like, we've been in your 

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shoes. 
It's OK. 

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You're going to get through 
this. 

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We're going to help you develop 
a couple boundaries that we 

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think would would help you guys.
And like pretty much don't 

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stress. 
As as crucial as all of this 

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feels right now, it's not a big 
deal. 

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You're going to look back and 
it's going to be funny. 

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And I was like, it will never be
funny. 

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It's not funny. 
It's still not funny, but they 

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stayed dying. 
We stayed at their house. 

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We got there at 9:00. 
We stayed. 

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We stayed. 
Yeah. 

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Midnight or 1:00 and they have 
three kids. 

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They have their own life, they 
have their own problems. 

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And and they said, yeah, they 
loved on us and they cared for 

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us. 
And it wasn't they didn't just 

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leave it there. 
Every Monday, every first Monday

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of the month, I meet with Pastor
Nick and and he sits down and he

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doesn't just say, how's your 
department doing? 

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How's the worship team doing? 
He says, how's your marriage? 

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How's your walk with Jesus 
going? 

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And he holds me accountable. 
And even when I and I'm honest 

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with them, right? 
I don't know, we're struggling 

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right now and you've been on a 
date night. 

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Do we need to watch your kids? 
What do we need to do to make 

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this happen? 
So he's not just going, hey, you

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have a problem. 
He's going hey here's a solution

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for your problem. 
And a lot of us have bad deja vu

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from like 15 years ago when 
people encourage mentors, they 

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would sit you down and ask you 
like a list of things that you 

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had told them you were 
struggling with. 

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And it was like this checklist 
where they're like, did you do 

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this? 
Did you do this, Ron, did you do

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this? 
Did you do this? 

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You can't do that. 
You need to read the Bible more.

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It was just so like, tense. 
And so this has really taught us

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that it's just living life with 
people that simple, Like just 

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live your life with other 
people. 

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And what? 
And we are better people because

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of it, right? 
Like when you have someone in 

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your corner that you know is for
you and is pulling you up and 

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going, hey, here's a blind spot,
here's something. 

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How are you doing in that? 
Your life is going to be better,

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your marriage is going to be 
better, your friendships are 

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going to be better, your work's 
going to be better. 

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Everything about your life is 
going to be better, so. 

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Yeah. 
And we, we're, we're joking, but

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we always attribute the like, 
the love, the joy and the peace 

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that we have in our marriage on 
a day-to-day basis comes from 

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standing on their shoulders. 
These people who didn't have it 

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good all the time, that walked 
through a lot of marriage 

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turmoil, that have fought 
through struggles with every 

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area of marriage or every, every
relationship in their family and

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are able to help us say, don't 
make the same mistakes we did. 

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Don't do that. 
Take it to the next level. 

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Do this instead. 
And so because of that, we 

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00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,880
always say like, man, we never 
fight over big scenario things 

450
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,080
anymore. 
The first year of marriage, our 

451
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,600
biggest fights were always 
family boundaries, like trying 

452
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,120
to navigate that. 
And then overall we we 

453
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,920
completely stand on the 
shoulders of people who go 

454
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,560
before us and people who have 
learned the hard way that we 

455
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,000
don't have to learn the hard 
way. 

456
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,080
And so it's just so beneficial 
if you listen, it's hard 

457
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,800
sometimes. 
So first one is that mentorship.

458
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,000
So if you don't already have 
someone pouring into you or 

459
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,240
giving you some insight, giving 
you coaching, calling out a 

460
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,720
blind spot in your life, it's 
time to look for one. 

461
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,840
The next one is Pier, which is 
just like someone on the same 

462
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,280
level as you, someone walking in
same stage of life. 

463
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,600
This can be a friend. 
This can even be a good 

464
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,240
category. 
Like if you're dating, this is 

465
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:59,360
that realm marriage is in. 
Peers and possibly even 

466
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,160
siblings. 
Even if they're younger, older 

467
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,080
than you, most of the times they
kind of end up in that same 

468
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,440
realm as you, walking through 
life the way you are. 

469
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,240
Two verses that we really love 
are Proverbs 2717. 

470
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,320
It says iron sharpens iron and 
one man sharpens another. 

471
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:18,600
Ecclesiastes 4/9 through 12 says
2 are better than one because 

472
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,480
they have a good reward for 
their toil. 

473
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,920
For if they fall, one will lift 
up his fellow, but woe to him 

474
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,760
who's alone when he falls and 
has not another to lift him up 

475
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,200
again. 
If two lie together, they're 

476
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,960
warm. 
But how can one keep warm alone?

477
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,560
And it just kind of helps us, 
you know, gain clarity that we 

478
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,440
were never created to do life 
alone. 

479
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,800
Like Tyler said, that first 
problem was God noticing that 

480
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,440
Adam didn't have like a 
counterpart and one thing that 

481
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,680
you didn't say last service we 
when you look at the word 

482
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,640
helper, it actually means it the
way they say it in the. 

483
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,240
Bible, I think it's. 
Easier. 

484
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,680
Easier. 
Or we don't. 

485
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,720
Do we look like scholars? 
I don't know. 

486
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,640
We're we're worship people, so 
we don't get invited to these 

487
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,960
very much. 
But so I think it's like ezer 

488
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,600
easier. 
Yeah. 

489
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,680
So it's, it's oftentimes 
referred to in the Bible. 

490
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,200
That same word is used to refer 
to the Holy Spirit and it's 

491
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,920
helper and so a lot of people 
think that the s s they designed

492
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,800
him a helper and so that means 
that that helper submissive. 

493
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,560
That's not what it's not 
secondary. 

494
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,320
They're on the same playing 
field that says to come 

495
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,360
alongside and to make up for 
what's lacking because we need 

496
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,120
people, right. 
Like I'm not perfect. 

497
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,760
Jasmine is she tells me 
everyday, but but the things 

498
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,680
that like we, we make up for 
each other's lacking, right. 

499
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,240
So it's just a beautiful. 
Thing, I mean, you guys know 

500
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,600
this. 
If you are married, you know, 

501
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:42,240
it's never 5050, it's 4060 or 
7030 or you know, like you some,

502
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,120
usually some person's a little 
off and one person is help 

503
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,440
compensating, carrying the 
family or carrying dinner that 

504
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,080
day or helping with family 
stuff. 

505
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,960
So it's just like, and that's 
kind of the case for every 

506
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,840
relationship. 
It's never, you're never going 

507
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,000
to find a friendship where it's 
always a hundred, a hundred. 

508
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,000
You guys are both on top. 
It's just they won't exist. 5050

509
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,640
is just this concept that 
whatever you don't have, I will 

510
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,120
make up for, and whatever you 
have, sometimes I need you to 

511
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:10,680
make up mine, you know? 
And it's the willingness to do 

512
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,320
that. 
I think something I struggle 

513
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,760
with was fairness. 
I have four brothers and 

514
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,120
sisters. 
So it's like you have to get 

515
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,200
your part. 
You know what I mean? 

516
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,680
If you don't, someone else is 
going to get it. 

517
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,360
So in our marriage, it was like,
I want what's fair, but it's 

518
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:24,920
never fair. 
It's never going to be fair. 

519
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,800
That's not that's not how 
relationships work. 

520
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,520
Sometimes it's it's you're tired
and you need help. 

521
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,600
And sometimes it's the opposite.
And sometimes both of you tired 

522
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,640
and you just got to you got to 
put those kids to sleep or 

523
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,600
something. 
And I'm an only child so I don't

524
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,560
even know how to spell fair. 
That's fair you. 

525
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:46,040
Learned that the hard way. 
Now I I feel like the benefits 

526
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,560
of this friendship relationship,
this marriage, a dating 

527
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,920
relationship when healthy, is 
that you get to be yourself 

528
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,480
completely. 
It's usually a judgement free 

529
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,800
zone. 
You get equal playing field just

530
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,480
like it's fair not fair. 
Sorry, I'm not listening. 

531
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,760
You're not trying to impress 
that person and you're not 

532
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,240
trying to give it. 
The same field we're we're both 

533
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,600
going for the same goal. 
Hopefully it's fun. 

534
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:18,280
And one of the biggest benefits 
is that when it's healthy, 

535
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,120
you're not keeping score on 
who's wrong. 

536
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,920
And I think that that's 
important for friendships, for 

537
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,840
anybody that you're trying to do
life with, that you are not 

538
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,400
keeping the tally. 
The pain points in this 

539
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,000
friendship usually has to do. 
One of the number one biggest 

540
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,800
ones is shared values. 
And if you've ever had a friend 

541
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,280
that was not a Christian and 
you're a Christian, you felt the

542
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,800
pain and the tension in that. 
And the frustrating part is that

543
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,760
sometimes you click with people 
chemistry wise, whether that's a

544
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,960
friendship or a dating 
relationship or even your 

545
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,800
spouse. 
You may have really great 

546
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,000
chemistry with your spouse. 
Some of you guys know that 

547
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,480
chemistry had nothing to do with
the equation that you're in and 

548
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,120
none of your friendships have 
chemistry. 

549
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:10,720
And so you already know what 
it's like to feel that like that

550
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,360
tension. 
But shared values bring a 

551
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:18,360
chemistry that can't be made-up.
If you are two different people,

552
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:21,920
but you share the same values, 
you both believe the Bible is 

553
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,600
the truth. 
You both believe God. 

554
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,680
There's only one God and it's 
Jesus. 

555
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:30,560
It helps formulate the rest of 
the relationship, even if all 

556
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,960
these different parts are 
different and there's different 

557
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,840
gears. 
And you, you function one way 

558
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,400
and your husband functions 
another or the guy you're dating

559
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,920
or the girl you're dating has 
these quirky things to them. 

560
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,760
If they truly believe that God, 
God is Jesus, the, the, the 

561
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,640
Bible's real and, and you guys 
are bull chasing after that. 

562
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,640
A lot of those little things 
iron out. 

563
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,200
But the problem is, is that we 
always go for chemistry. 

564
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,880
We go for clickiness, we go for.
Personality, it's way. 

565
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,840
Easier at the beginning, way 
harder at the end. 

566
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,440
When things really get hard, it 
is so much harder. 

567
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,600
And just while we're on that, 
Tyler and I always say choose 

568
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,280
your heart. 
Choose your heart because 

569
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:15,600
everything's everything in life 
can be hard. 

570
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,040
Everything worthwhile in life, 
John Maxwell says. 

571
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,440
Everything worthwhile in life is
uphill. 

572
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,040
It's a climb. 
It's not. 

573
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,920
It's not handed to you. 
And so you get to choose what's 

574
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,680
hard. 
It may be harder to engage in a 

575
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,160
relationship where you don't 
have a ton of chemistry at 1st 

576
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,240
and create a peer relationship 
that's healthy for your life. 

577
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,600
But long term it's going to be 
harder if you go with the 

578
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,640
cliquey person who's got bad 
habits, bad influences, treats 

579
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,000
their spouse badly. 
The things that don't seem like 

580
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,280
a big deal in the moment, they 
rub off on you because you are 

581
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,680
like the top five people that 
you connect with. 

582
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,000
Top five. 
So whether that's your parents, 

583
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,440
your friendships, your siblings,
your coworkers, whoever it is 

584
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,160
that you surround yourself with,
you become. 

585
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,360
And so it's super important that
you choose some people in your 

586
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,000
circle that are intentional, 
that have the same values as 

587
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,000
you, that the second point for 
this one is just that forgive 

588
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,440
freely. 
Just always forgive. 

589
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,200
It's you're going to have a 
million reasons to hold a 

590
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,640
grudge. 
Just be an unoffendable person. 

591
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,760
Life is so much easier. 
We always try to ask ourselves 

592
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,760
like, how can we make life a 
little easier? 

593
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,960
Just forgive a lot. 
Like don't, don't hold it 

594
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,000
tightly. 
It's OK. 

595
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,520
People are going to mess up 
every single day and if you have

596
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,800
that expectation, you don't hold
people to this psycho standard 

597
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,720
that they can't do. 
I would say the I've heard it 

598
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,560
said that we see ourselves 
through our own intentions. 

599
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,040
We see ourselves through our 
intentions. 

600
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080
We see other people through 
their actions, right? 

601
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,000
We give ourselves all the grace 
in the world because we know the

602
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,400
kids were up crying all last 
night and we didn't get any 

603
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,920
sleep and, and the IT was hard 
at work this week and, and this 

604
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,360
person said this and this and 
this, but but we never give the,

605
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,720
the people the same amount or 
I'll say this about me. 

606
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,400
I never give the same amount of 
grace to that. 

607
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,600
I give myself to other people. 
That's a problem. 

608
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,360
So something that I've started 
doing is just thinking about 

609
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,440
Jasmine situation. 
Be like, it's probably hard. 

610
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,320
It was probably hard being with 
the kids today. 

611
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,440
They're they're terrorists 
sometime, you know, they're good

612
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,680
kids. 
They're good kids, but seeing 

613
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,920
them through the same lens as 
you see yourself, that's what 

614
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,800
that's wild. 
It's it's, it'll change your 

615
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,560
life or even praying that God 
will open, praying that God will

616
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,480
open your eyes to see those 
people the way that God sees 

617
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,560
them. 
That'll change your life, change

618
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,280
your life. 
So just to wrap up the peer 

619
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,640
category, I remember when I went
to school and up until that 

620
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,000
point, I had chosen friends 
completely off of who I clicked 

621
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,240
with, who is out as outgoing as 
I was. 

622
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,480
I picked people to date off that
same metric. 

623
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,520
It was like if they were fun, if
they like to be the life of the 

624
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,360
party, like I would just hang 
out with them. 

625
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,440
And I never looked for people 
that had things that I didn't. 

626
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,560
I always look for people who 
were similar. 

627
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,840
And when I got to college, I got
a roommate. 

628
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,920
We got assigned randomly to 
rooms and I walked in the room. 

629
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,080
Now I get to shoot. 
Like you get to choose your 

630
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,040
dorms everywhere. 
For some reason at CF and I, 

631
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,600
they were not that high tech. 
So I walked in. 

632
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,080
I didn't get to choose who I was
with. 

633
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,640
And when I saw this girl, I was 
like, we will never be friends. 

634
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,280
Like just by the way that she 
had decorated her side of the 

635
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,120
room. 
I was like, this is if you know 

636
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,040
my mom, does anybody know my 
mom? 

637
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,720
That decoration is a big deal. 
So I walk in and it's just 

638
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,240
absolute chaos. 
Like the girl, literally, she 

639
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,160
had like prophetic artwork 
everywhere and it was like the 

640
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,800
most crazy messy, like just 
totally not my aesthetic. 

641
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,160
Then I walked in and I remember 
thinking to myself, we'll never 

642
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,600
be friends. 
And I just made that decision in

643
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,520
the moment. 
I was so wrong. 

644
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,000
She is my very best friend that 
I've ever had in my entire life.

645
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640
We've been friends in January 
for 10 years. 

646
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,080
Nothing has changed. 
She was my maid of honor. 

647
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,880
Hers like so much life came from
that relationship. 

648
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,720
So much growth came from that 
relationship. 

649
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,520
And I would say the first three 
years were the hardest and then 

650
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,160
the next 7 have been nothing but
a breeze and a joy. 

651
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,000
The first three years took 
intentionality. 

652
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,640
It took a lot of hard 
conversations. 

653
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,120
Like he was saying 
relationships, anything good is 

654
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,120
uphill. 
So the the reason why it was 

655
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,320
hard is because I had a lot of 
flaws and she had a lot of 

656
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,720
flaws. 
But if we were going to pursue a

657
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,960
godly friendship, we were just 
going to keep working at it. 

658
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,520
And we did. 
And now I'm so thankful that we 

659
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,680
did because she's Tyler's friend
and she's my family's aunt. 

660
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,040
Like all our kids, like they 
just love them. 

661
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,640
Now. 
We wouldn't have that today if 

662
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,120
my mindset in that moment would 
have been, we're so different. 

663
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,200
I don't think this would work. 
So now I'm just a firm believer 

664
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,400
that find some friends that have
the things that you just don't 

665
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,040
have. 
Every time that we leave the 

666
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,160
kids with Bianca, the kids throw
up. 

667
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,800
Twice. 
She cleans it. 

668
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,520
And she does one of the times I 
thought I was in labor and so we

669
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,400
left. 
It turns out I just had a 

670
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,440
stomach bug. 
But if you Google labor side of 

671
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,440
what's it called symptoms 
online, they tell you throwing 

672
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,840
up is one of them. 
So I just thought we had it. 

673
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,720
And when we got to the hospital,
my kids are throwing up with 

674
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,080
Bianca at home. 
And the lady said, so no one 

675
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,360
else in your house is throwing 
up. 

676
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,160
This is you think this is just 
labor? 

677
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,440
And I was like, no, my daughter 
is at home right now throwing 

678
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,960
up. 
And she said, honey, you have a,

679
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,000
you have a stomach bug. 
She sent me back. 

680
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,200
I was very mad about that. 
We only had one more week to go.

681
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,080
So yeah, just look for look for 
someone out of your comfort 

682
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,800
zone, out of your normal friend 
pics. 

683
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,160
Don't be afraid to ask them out 
to coffee, ask them how they're 

684
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,600
doing, DM them. 
Just whatever it takes to 

685
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,159
initiate and then just get to 
know someone. 

686
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,239
If it doesn't work, again, no 
hard feelings, just slowly back 

687
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,880
up and go your own way, yeah? 
Yeah, so so mentor pier and the 

688
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,480
last one is protege or mincey. 
It's a disciple. 

689
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,239
Whatever it is that it's this is
I love what you talked about 

690
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,480
with baptism, how it's it's a 
commandment and God gives us 

691
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,199
commandments throughout 
Scripture and relationships are 

692
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:35,320
one of them. 
The Great Commission in Matthew 

693
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,920
28. 
We think that it's always about 

694
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,320
says therefore go and make 
disciples of all nations, 

695
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,480
baptizing them in the name of 
the Father, Son and Spirit. 

696
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,880
And we think of that and we're 
like, yeah, missions. 

697
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,199
Let's send people overseas and 
let's, let's do, let's convert 

698
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,320
people to Christianity. 
And that's beautiful. 

699
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,000
It's amazing and it's a 
necessity. 

700
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,440
Discipleship does not mean 
convert and leave them alone. 

701
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,720
Discipleship is intentional that
the word disciple. 

702
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,160
It means if someone is a 
disciple, they're a learner, 

703
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,320
they're a follower or they're an
apprentice. 

704
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,640
So what are what are these types
of relationships look like? 

705
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,000
They look like your kids, your 
grandkids. 

706
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,840
If you're a teacher, it maybe it
may look like a student. 

707
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,120
If you're a coach, it looks like
a, a, a player in team. 

708
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,760
If you're, if you have 
employees, maybe that's what 

709
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,880
that looks like. 
Maybe it's just someone younger 

710
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,600
in your life that goes, you have
something that I want. 

711
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,680
Can you help me get there? 
So, so those are those are so 

712
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,240
big. 
And, and so again, this is not a

713
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,280
this is not a, hey, you're here 
on earth. 

714
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,600
God created you, and he's had 
other people pour into your 

715
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,400
life, and then now you're a 
Christian and now you're good. 

716
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,760
God calls you to do it. 
It's a commandment. 

717
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,440
You look in, I think it's 
Matthew 25. 

718
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,160
Yeah. 
You see the parable of the 

719
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,480
talents, and you see this 
master, he gives talents to 

720
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,120
these, to three servants. 
And the first two servants that 

721
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,480
he gives it to, they double what
they were given. 

722
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,080
The last servant takes it and 
buries it in the ground when the

723
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,320
master comes back and he says, 
hey, what's going on? 

724
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,080
That last servant that buried in
the ground that gave it back to 

725
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,080
him, it wasn't favorable for 
him. 

726
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,680
It didn't end well. 
But to the two that took that 

727
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,680
took that talent and and 
multiplied it, he said, well 

728
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,360
done, my good and faithful 
servant, God has given you 

729
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,280
relationships, ships in your 
life that you are to pour into, 

730
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,200
to invest in. 
And these are hard because it's 

731
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,800
it means that you have to do 
some difficult things. 

732
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,240
You have to have integrity now, 
you have to be trustworthy, you 

733
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:29,240
have to have good character. 
So it's, it's not something 

734
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:33,600
that's easy because you have to 
have people that trust you 

735
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,240
enough to, to, to speak into 
your life. 

736
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:39,640
And, and one thing I will say 
about this, you're never too 

737
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,600
young and you're never too old. 
You're, there's not an age that 

738
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,520
goes, oh, now you're qualified 
and now you're not. 

739
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,760
God doesn't call. 
God qualifies you. 

740
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,280
His grace is sufficient. 
God qualifies you and he calls 

741
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,520
you to do this. 
So it's not an easy thing to do.

742
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,840
I think one thing that's that's,
that's crazy and it's, it's a 

743
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,880
cultural thing in America. 
I, I believe, but we, we cling 

744
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,040
so tightly to our rights, even 
our biblical rights, We go, this

745
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,880
is I, I can do this. 
I should be able to do this. 

746
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,640
I should be able to whatever. 
And we're, we're, because of 

747
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,040
that, we're, we're not taking up
our responsibility. 

748
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,280
God calls us to take our rights 
and lay them down and take up 

749
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,800
responsibility for other people.
And you see that Jesus didn't go

750
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,640
to the cross with his own sins. 
Jesus didn't go to the cross 

751
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,840
with his own shame and guilt. 
He went to it for us. 

752
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,200
He didn't die, just he died in 
place of us, right? 

753
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,000
Like that was our cross. 
But Jesus said, no, I'm going 

754
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,040
to, I'm going to take care of 
this. 

755
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:41,720
And he calls the city the same. 
I think I'll just say a couple 

756
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:47,240
of the benefits of having a 
someone you're mentoring is when

757
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:50,200
you're answering God's call on 
your life, that's part of his 

758
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,920
call for your life. 
Two, it's that he's given us 

759
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,600
something that he doesn't want 
us to hide. 

760
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,000
And that's I'm going to refer 
that more to like a gifting or a

761
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,120
passion that you have. 
You know, maybe you love to read

762
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,640
and that is to you, it seems 
like that's nothing that you can

763
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,600
use. 
But maybe there's a younger 

764
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,040
person around you who also loves
to read but has never said it 

765
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,720
out loud. 
And maybe both of you would 

766
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:21,200
benefit so much from leading it,
you know, reading a a leadership

767
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,720
book that you never read before 
and meeting once a week at a 

768
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:28,800
coffee shop to talk about it, 
you know, or I, I think like we 

769
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,840
just get so in in a route when 
it comes to that. 

770
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,600
But I always try to think like 
the conversations that I've had 

771
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,520
in the last month with people on
our team. 

772
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,960
I am so unaware of how many 
young, you know, single people 

773
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:47,200
want to be pastored, want to be 
mentored, have a desire to grow 

774
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,120
a gifting inside of them. 
And you know, that might be you 

775
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,520
in the room today. 
And I just want to speak to 

776
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,360
people who can be mentors. 
You have gifts and passions that

777
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,760
people want to learn from and 
it's so important that you don't

778
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,560
hide it. 
It's so important that you use 

779
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,360
it and you may swing a couple 
times and miss. 

780
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,200
You may ask someone and they're 
like, I have no interest in 

781
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,760
that. 
That's totally fine. 

782
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,920
I think that God is so thankful 
for our effort and for trying 

783
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,480
and taking steps of faith. 
We may not always hit it on the 

784
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:21,120
mark and that's OK, but I think 
that making sure that you leave 

785
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,960
a legacy, not just with your 
family because you're already 

786
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,320
going to pour into your kids. 
You already have a desire to 

787
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,800
spend time with them, to do the 
things they love to do and to 

788
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,000
teach them. 
But carry those desires for 

789
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,480
other people as well. 
Look at people and and notice 

790
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,680
gifting in them and ask God to 
give you his eyes to see things 

791
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,520
in other people that you don't 
see everyday so that you can 

792
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,600
help build his Kingdom. 
Because someone's going to 

793
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,800
benefit just from your 
relationship, just the way that 

794
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,320
you see the world, your 
encouragement, the way you might

795
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,640
laugh with them. 
It you don't realize how big of 

796
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,880
an impact it really makes. 
And so when it comes to, you 

797
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,640
know, finding someone to to 
mentor, hopefully if you're in 

798
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,560
this room and you realized you 
need a mentor, you're going to 

799
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,720
take a step of action to ask. 
But if nobody asks you. 

800
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,720
Look around you see who, who it 
is. 

801
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,280
It may be your niece, it may be 
a nephew, it may be a sibling. 

802
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,840
It doesn't always have to fall, 
you know, outside your family. 

803
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,600
It could be in your family. 
And maybe just that perspective 

804
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,320
will help you pour into your, 
you know, extended family in a 

805
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,960
way you haven't in a really long
time. 

806
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,080
So just kind of start asking the
Lord, we believe that he's going

807
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:35,080
to show you, but our our 
challenge today for you is that 

808
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,680
you're going to look at these 
three relationships and find one

809
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,080
that you can pursue, whether 
it's maybe you need to be 

810
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,680
someone's mentor and someone's 
going to come up to you and 

811
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,920
they're going to ask you. 
And the first thing you're going

812
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,000
to think is that I don't have 
time for this. 

813
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,040
And I think that in that moment,
just give it to the Lord, say 

814
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,440
God like you really do you know 
how to make all things work 

815
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,040
together for the good of those 
who love you. 

816
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,880
And if someone comes up to me, 
make a decision today in your 

817
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,680
head that you're going to try 
your best to make a little bit 

818
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,200
of time because a little bit of 
time is going to make a very big

819
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,080
difference. 
Or maybe, you know, you realize 

820
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,200
that you need a peer or friend, 
or you've been in the dating 

821
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,520
zone and you haven't been dating
people who with the same values 

822
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,200
as you. 
You've kind of been lowering 

823
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,320
your values to, to make your 
market wider. 

824
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,440
And maybe today you just 
realized that it's time to raise

825
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,400
that standard and, and to hold 
your values true for every 

826
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,080
relationship that you encounter 
from here on out. 

827
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,400
And like I said, last service, 
don't cut off the people who 

828
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,880
don't meet those standards for 
you. 

829
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,480
Love them, speak life over them,
but maybe you just don't receive

830
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,560
so much what's an influence from
them. 

831
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,040
Maybe it's just time to look for
some friends who are going to be

832
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,040
able to speak into your life and
you can actually use what they 

833
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,480
say. 
And then lastly, that you're 

834
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,240
looking for someone who may need
a mentor and you might be the 

835
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:03,280
person that they've been looking
for for a long time. 

836
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,680
That's so good. 
Thank you for sharing that. 

837
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,840
Can we just pray for you? 
Jesus? 

838
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,160
We just thank you so much for 
these wonderful people, God, 

839
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,080
that I've gathered here just 
just to meet with you. 

840
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,560
God, thank you so much that 
you've put that in their hearts.

841
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,960
God, that you're drawing them to
you. 

842
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,440
Jesus, we thank you so much for 
your word. 

843
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,160
We thank you for wisdom. 
We thank you for people around 

844
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,680
us. 
We thank you for relationships. 

845
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,280
God, we just pray for clarity. 
We pray for wisdom, we pray for 

846
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,640
direction, we pray for guidance,
we pray for confidence in 

847
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,480
boldness to approach people and 
and ask them to be our mentors 

848
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,680
or ask them if they want to come
along the journey with us. 

849
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,080
God, we pray. 
We pray that you give us a great

850
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,880
day, great weather. 
God, we pray for more of you in 

851
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,440
our lives. 
Jesus, we love you. 

852
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,480
Open our eyes to the people 
around us and help us to see 

853
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,560
them the way that you do. 
Jesus, we love you. 

854
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,400
We're here for you. 
Amen.

