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All right, well, welcome back if
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sometime in the near future to 
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the service this morning at 
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invite you to come be with us in
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We're 115 E Main Street, right 
in the heart of the old historic

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part of Gaylord and the old 
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So come and find us sometime 
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Easter is coming up. 
That would be a great. 

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Time to come and to worship with
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Right, notes to the message are 
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there. 
And are they still, are we out 

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of there? 
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I see people walking up matter. 
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We, we out if there are. 
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So notes to the message are 
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You can pick them up now as I'm 
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you. 
Just grab one on your way out 

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and encourage you to do so. 
Luke Ramsey just built us that 

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So thank you to Luke for that. 
If you have your Bibles, please 

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take and turn them to the New 
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About 90% into your Bible. 
You'll find the letters to the 

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Corinthians, first and 2nd 
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So this is after Rome, after 
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some of the bigger books in the 
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And we're going to start in 
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So this is the apostle Paul 
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Corinth, and I'm going to start 
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verse 4, Paul writes. 
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gifts, but the same Spirit, and 
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but the same Lord, and there are
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it's the same God who empowers 
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So why are spiritual gifts 
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They're given for the common 
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Christ. 
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you as we finish our teachings 
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I'm going to teach this morning 
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Spirit, the gifts of the Holy 
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Let me pray for us, God, we've 
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that is to honor and worship 
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And we do it by being together. 
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We do it in our giving. 
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openness to your truth. 
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come and boldly speak to us. 
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learning today, it's going to be
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It's going to be old news that 
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And for some of us, maybe we 
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and maybe something to dust off 
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And for some of us, this is so 
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I talked to people after the 
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wow, this is something they've 
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all. 
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understanding of the spiritual 
gifts, we pray that you'll just 

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increase our understanding this 
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us as a church and grow us also 
as individuals who are chasing 

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after Jesus. 
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Jesus and everyone said. 
Amen and Amen. 

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Now I have this is you know, we 
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necessarily here at our church. 
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year. 
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ago. 
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but we just kind of navigate 
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then we will dive into such 
things like this study that 

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we've done. 
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Hopefully you've looked at it 
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You know, I'm not a fan of 
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Do you know what a homily is? 
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10 or 12 minute, like feel good 
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So if homilies are for you, then
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Because, because on Sunday 
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Dive in and. 
Really try to study in a way 

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that again will shape our lives 
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OK, so we've done this again. 
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on the Holy Spirit we missed 
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to be together for this final 
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And so we had church from home 
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service from home and many of 
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together at that time because of
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And then the week before, our 
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Heart Conference and gave 
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beautiful service. 
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So. 
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since we've been in this topic. 
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down this morning, next week's 
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Easter. 
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series that we've been doing and
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gifts of the Spirit. 
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remind you that Jesus tells the 
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Jesus told the disciples that, 
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it's better for me to go away 
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the comforter. 
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Son, and Holy Spirit all equal, 
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personalities, if you will, in 
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He by his design, Jesus was only
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me to go away, because when I go
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then we'll send the. 
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Spirit, and He won't just be 
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In you. 
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Jesus, the Holy Spirit is in US.
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Testament that God used to 
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He's everywhere at all times. 
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his sovereignty, God would 
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And so he gives Moses a plan, a 
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it became a Tabernacle and 
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But the Holy Spirit of God would
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people in the tent or the 
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Out that now we are now the tent
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Tab Tabernacle, Temple of the 
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In US, and that is not to be. 
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throughout Scripture has been 
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We sang this morning come rest 
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opening line is as the Spirit 
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Spirit can move over us and 
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chapter one, verse 2 right after
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beginning God created the 
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was. 
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it. 
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hovering over the waters. 
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dawn of time, the Holy Spirit of
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OK. 
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On the day of Pentecost? 
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and buried and resurrected, he 
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breathed on them. 
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on him. 
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We received the Holy Spirit. 
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surrender our lives to His 
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OK, OK, so so that's when the 
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But then on the day of 
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or baptizing or an immersing. 
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you about that, that they were 
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and that we also are invited to 
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Instead we receive the Holy 
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But DL Moody said that we leak, 
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The famous preacher, DL Moody. 
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filling of the Holy Spirit. 
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hungry for, to be ongoingly 
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Spirit. 
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talked about the fact that we 
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the Holy Spirit. 
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who God is because God gives us 
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Did you know that God's 
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even gives us the ability to 
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So if you're not careful, you 
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the Holy Spirit. 
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Instead, we want to invite the 
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our lives to move among us and 
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and faith in him. 
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morning, what I want to do is 
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building up to this, putting a 
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There are unique gifts, 
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Testament writers that are 
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flourish and grow in them. 
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12427. 
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understood if I paraphrase it 
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OK so I read it to you at the 
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I go backwards in his rhythm. 
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good. 
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empower us with a variety of 
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OK, so the Holy Spirit wants to 
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And why does he want to move? 
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our church, the good of your 
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Christ at large. 
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move in us? 
He's going to give us these 

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unique spiritual gifts. 
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empower you. 
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that he wants to give us these 
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knowing it that it makes us 
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the more. 
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spiritual gifts, you won't look 
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in to expect them. 
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there's a difference between 
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gifts. 
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have, we have potential 
propensity towards certain 

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talents. 
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developing, right? 
I didn't, I didn't just play 

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guitar without practice. 
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career, whatever it is, if 
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teacher, if you, if you own a 
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develop your talent to flourish 
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OK, so on the only hand you have
talents that yes, God wires us 

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for these talents. 
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You don't have to be a follower 
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You can become a great artist. 
You can become a great, you 

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know, all kinds of careers. 
You can flourish in those 

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without even following Jesus 
because you have talent that you

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can develop. 
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follower of Jesus, now you have 
that talent, and then you have 

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spiritual gifts. 
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different and knowing that you 
can combine them to become even 

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more effective is worth knowing.
And knowing that, OK, I don't 

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want to just leave this church 
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abilities. 
No, I want to leave this church.

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Yes, with my talents I guess, 
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my life. 
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then it's going to be empty and 
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I want to see what God can do 
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Them Now the reason why this is 
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because some people look at the 
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why is that wrong? 
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the list of spiritual gifts 
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So they will tend to over 
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OK, and not to overly use too 
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but certainly singing. 
Sometimes people say, oh, my 

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spiritual gift is singing. 
OK, I'm going to read you the 

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spiritual gifts and you're going
to find that singing is not one 

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of the options. 
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especially and then we'll watch 
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spiritualize our talent, then we
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You've seen American Idol, have 
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their idea of how they think 
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Right? 
They come on, they're just 

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terrible. 
They're awful. 

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They're awful, they're terrible.
It's like who maybe though their

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mom was the only one ever 
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great at singing. 
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it's not really the case. 
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happens is if we're not careful,
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talent by calling it a spiritual
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And when we think singing is our
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we've taken our talents and 
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spiritual gifts. 
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spiritual gifts, you're going to
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And my hope is that you're going
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that is a spiritual gift that I 
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Resonate with right some of you 
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you some and I'm going to tell 
you and some of you know me well

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enough to go yeah it's certainly
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there right when I get there 
you'll go yeah it's not one that

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you have but I have some other 
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learn what your talents are 
develop them and you get you 

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know I want to give God glory 
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talents yes you're giving God 
glory for them but you've. 

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Got to develop them. 
Your spiritual gifts. 

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Well, they do take some 
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more just like God just shows up
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And I'll unpack that for you 
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But talents are here, spiritual 
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Make sure that you understand 
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willing to bring them together 
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OK, now before we get to the 
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I want to remind you that 
they're all valuable and they're

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all supernatural. 
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understand that they're 
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The reason why it's important is
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among Christians about which 
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you are still available today. 
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past couple weeks, but you're 
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So or maybe you forgot when I 
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So I'm going to just re mention 
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Christianity those who are 
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that when the Bible was 
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apostles died, they believe that
the miraculous supernatural 

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gifts were no longer needed or 
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So they differentiate between 
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consider, I guess not 
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they say those are still needed,
but the other ones went away 

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with the disciples. 
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that that I don't agree with. 
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people who love each other. 
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I believe that the gifts of the 
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available for the Church today 
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I look at all of them as being 
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And as I unpack them, I want to 
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I go through the list, I want 
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miraculous and supernatural, 
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to just seem a bit mundane. 
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Did you know mercy is a 
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We should all have mercy, OK, as
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people have it supernaturally as
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And what do you look at mercy 
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Well, that's not supernatural. 
It's not miraculous. 

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Well, sure it is. 
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It's equally as miraculous as 
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think belittles some of the 
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OK, so divide him up. 
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extraordinary is belittling to 
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Now, I also know this, that all 
Christians should have the fruit

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of the Spirit. 
And I want to tell you that the 

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fruit of the Spirit is different
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because you're going to see that
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given in their entirety to every
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But the fruit, it's a singular, 
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be in. 
All of us. 

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Paul writes to the Church of 
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but the fruit of the Spirit. 
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And patience and kindness and 
goodness and faithfulness and 

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gentleness and self-control 
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There is no law. 
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We're aiming at all of all of us
get the fruit, but not all of us

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get every gifts. 
OK, so then we want to know what

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are the gifts and which ones do 
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In. 
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that Paul gives. 
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Corinthians 12/8 through 10. 
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of these unique special gifts 
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good. 
Verse 8 for to 1 is given 

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through the Spirit, the 
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another the utterance of 
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According to the same Spirit, 
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being able to utter wisdom, and 
there's also a spiritual gift of

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being able to utter knowledge. 
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I love this. 
There are people that you know, 

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people that I know that I think 
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wisdom, and they're just wise. 
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they have a lot of knowledge. 
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And there are people in my life 
that I go to for wisdom 

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believing that they have the 
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it's to be utilized for the 
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don't necessarily have to be 
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You can just be wise, right? 
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think I have the spiritual gift 
of wisdom, OK. 

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But interesting enough, I do 
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of. 
Knowledge. 

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I'm hungry to know things. 
I want to know a lot about a 

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lot, right? 
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utter about that knowledge. 
I want to be able to speak about

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the knowledge that I gained. 
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we're knowledge and wisdom are 
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It's like wisdom is just 
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Oddly enough, I'm pretty stupid 
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Right, I just didn't like like I
got a chainsaw last year and and

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friends who love me. 
Well said. 

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Whatever you do, don't use it. 
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It's never even started, right? 
It's just like, because I don't 

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have the spiritual gift of 
wisdom, sometimes I've done some

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really dumb things in my life. 
They were not evil. 

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They were just just, it wasn't 
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So that's who I am, right. 
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spiritual gift of wisdom and 
you're just instinctively wise 

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about stuff and you might even 
be quiet about it. 

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But there's a spiritual gift of 
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OK. 
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the spiritual gift of knowledge,
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church for the common good. 
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faith by the same spirit, and to
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Spirit and I love these both, 
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have faith. 
Without faith it's impossible to

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please God. 
You can't come to Jesus without 

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faith, right? 
But some have the. 

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Supernatural spirit. 
Spiritual gift of faith. 

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I don't. 
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I overthink things and so when I
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around people. 
They just believe. 

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If anything, I'm probably given 
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I'm given the doubt, so I when I
can be. 

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Around people that are just full
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And it's not. 
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It's because the Holy Spirit, 
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spiritual gift of faith to some,
and they're good for the common 

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good within the church, right? 
So I would love, I love it when 

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people in our church have more 
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And some of you have that you 
do. 

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I get around you and you stir me
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OK and then watch this next to 
faith he says to another gifts 

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of healing by 1 spirit. 
Now do I have the spiritual gift

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of healing? 
No, but some of you do. 

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Now will I pray for you? 
In faith, believing God to heal 

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you. 
Yes, greatly. 

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Man, I do not like to be around 
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Lord, if you like, let's let's 
say you have some difficulty in 

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your life or you're sick or 
something. 

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If you have some people pray for
you and they're they're praying 

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for you like, well, Lord, if 
it's your will, whatever your 

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will be, Lord, we just pray 
you're, you know, just be 

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sovereign God. 
And if you want to heal them, 

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God, heal them. 
That's one way of praying. 

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I don't like being around people
like that. 

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I like being around people. 
It's like in faith, God, we pray

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that you will heal miraculously 
this person. 

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God, we believe that you're 
good. 

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You can heal cancer, You can 
heal marriages. 

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God, we believe for it. 
We come to you believing in your

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goodness. 
And we want to pray fervently. 

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God, heal them, heal them. 
OK, so that's the type of prayer

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I want to hear people pray. 
It doesn't come as naturally to 

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me, but there are some people 
they just, according to this, 

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they just abound in faith. 
And it even is in the context of

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healing. 
And I've seen people with that 

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gift. 
Terry's here. 

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Where's Terry? 
Terry Martin's are here 

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somewhere. 
Terry. 

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Terry experienced the healing a 
couple months ago and she told 

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us about it, right? 
Pastor Duane was here and taught

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on an on an evening and she had 
an issue, which I won't tell you

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about, but she had something. 
She was praying for healing. 

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He prayed and she got healed 
from this, right? 

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I think Pastor Duane who is 
here, I think he does have a 

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spiritual gift of healing. 
He prays for people with need 

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and often more than when I pray 
for them, I think he sees fruit.

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And so we need those with the 
the gift of healing also in the 

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church. 
It is a very real thing and it's

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still for today. 
Now to another, the workings of 

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miracles. 
There are some people. 

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Who about outside of healing? 
I mean just the miraculous. 

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And they just have faith to 
encourage others to believe that

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God could do miracles. 
Maybe I want to think I have 

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this gift. 
I'm not sure. 

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But according to Paul, it is a 
unique spiritual gift, the 

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working of miracles and to 
another prophecy. 

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Now let me unpack this prophecy.
Paul's not saying here that some

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have the gift to tell the 
future. 

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That could be a part of it. 
But more than that, I think what

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Paul's saying here is that there
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prophetic in nature. 
And what does that mean in the 

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Old Testament? 
When you look at the prophets, 

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man, they were pointed people. 
Elijah was like in your face. 

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Samuel was in your. 
Face Isaiah, the prophet 

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Jeremiah, they were prophetic in
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The New Testament you have, of 
course, John the Baptist, he was

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prophetic in nature. 
Sometimes people who have this 

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spiritual gift. 
They're not a lot of fun to be 

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around. 
Right, because they speak truth 

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to us in a way this may be a 
little painful and I don't have 

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the spiritual gift. 
If anything, Jason and I were 

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someplace, we were out within a 
couple the other night and she 

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wasn't throwing me under the bus
at all. 

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She was just, it was true what 
she was saying. 

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It's like sometimes Curtis too 
nice, right? 

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And I do tend to default that 
way. 

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It's like I don't have a 
prophetic nature if I'm not 

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necessarily great at 
confronting, right? 

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But some of you, you, you are 
able to do that. 

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And it's not because you're mean
or angry or cruel, but the but 

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according to this, I do think 
that Paul's saying some of you 

450
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,640
are prophetic in nature and 
you're able to speak truth in a 

451
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,320
way that might hurt, it might 
sting. 

452
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,640
And that's necessary in the 
church and in our lives. 

453
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,520
I want people in my life that 
are like that. 

454
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,480
And then he says that to 
another, the ability to 

455
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,800
distinguish between spirits. 
We are in spiritual battles. 

456
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,480
We're in spiritual warfare. 
And some of you have more of an 

457
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,840
intuition because of the Holy 
Spirit in you supernaturally to 

458
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,600
discern between something that's
good or evil. 

459
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,600
And you know how to navigate 
through this. 

460
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,480
I will tell you, my wife, Jace, 
she grew up in Nuremberg, 

461
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,640
Germany, which is a big city. 
And in the city that she grew up

462
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,280
in, when she was little, like 5 
or 6, her dad showed her the way

463
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,720
to her school, which was across 
town. 

464
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,320
He had to get on like a bus or a
subway and then go through as a 

465
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,520
little girl. 
She's doing this. 

466
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,960
So she is very St. savvy, right?
So she can discern things right 

467
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,400
naturally, But I also think 
supernaturally. 

468
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,800
And it's not my gift. 
If anything, I'm pretty 

469
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,840
gullible. 
If you want to pull one over on 

470
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,000
me, you probably could. 
Because I just, I'm overly 

471
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,960
trusting at times and it's like 
I'm not. 

472
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,960
Overly discerning sometimes when
it comes to stuff like this, and

473
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,200
that self-awareness is healthy 
for us. 

474
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,360
For me it's. 
Healthy and especially with my 

475
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:03,040
wife, because there are times 
where she will say, I my 

476
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,800
discernment here is this and 
I'll be like, I don't, I don't 

477
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,640
see that. 
That's not the way I see it. 

478
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,640
And I have to learn to trust and
go, oh, wait a minute. 

479
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,440
She has the spiritual gift of 
discernment. 

480
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,880
So I need to lean into that a 
little bit more for the good, 

481
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,320
for the common good of us, our 
relationship, but also our 

482
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,680
church. 
OK, so they are those who have 

483
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,200
the ability to distinguish 
between spirits and then to 

484
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,240
another various kinds of tongues
and to another the 

485
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,280
interpretation. 
Of tongues now let. 

486
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,200
Me unpack this for you because 
there's some confusion about 

487
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,600
this. 
So in in Acts chapter 2, there's

488
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,760
the day of Pentecost and there 
are people in Jerusalem from all

489
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,800
of these different nations that 
are Jewish, but they've been 

490
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:49,080
they were dispersed once the 
Assyrians and the Babylonians 

491
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,920
conquered Jerusalem and Israel. 
So now they're coming back to 

492
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,240
Jerusalem and they speak other 
languages on the Day of 

493
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,880
Pentecost, supernaturally, 
they're able to preach in 

494
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,360
languages they don't know, and 
they're able to understand 

495
00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:07,400
languages that they don't know. 
And so this is misunderstood by 

496
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,600
a lot of people because they 
think maybe it's like a heavenly

497
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,960
language that would be available
to us. 

498
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,920
OK, that could be true, but 
really in the context of the Day

499
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,600
of Pentecost and this ability to
just to various kinds of tongues

500
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,880
and to another, the 
interpretation of tongues, I do 

501
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,120
think that Paul's speaking about
real specific languages because 

502
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:26,840
that's what happened at 
Pentecost. 

503
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,360
Now, on another occasion, Paul 
talks about praying in tongues, 

504
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,160
but that's not for public, 
that's not for preaching, that's

505
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,480
prayer. 
And so is there such a thing as 

506
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,720
praying in tongues? 
I believe that there is. 

507
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,560
Does everyone get it? 
Well, I'm going to get to that 

508
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,640
here in a minute. 
But what he's talking about in 

509
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,320
this context is speaking real 
languages, so. 

510
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:47,960
This is still. 
Happening on the face of the 

511
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,840
earth today, Jason and I, about 
five years ago, we were driving 

512
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,560
to, I think, Boston or Audi 
somewhere, maybe New Jersey, and

513
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:56,840
we had LED worship at a church 
there. 

514
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,680
And we were coming back and it 
was like two or three in the 

515
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,080
morning in Ohio. 
And we were on the Ohio Turnpike

516
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,600
and we went in and we were the 
only. 

517
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,920
And we went in this rest stop, 
right, These restroom and, and 

518
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,000
you know, those rest stops, a 
lot of times the doors are open.

519
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,720
There's no door there. 
It's just kind of an open walk 

520
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,360
into. 
So. 

521
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,640
So I am in the men's restroom. 
And also I hear Jace calling for

522
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,680
me. 
Well, it's like two or three in 

523
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,200
the morning. 
So it scared me a little bit. 

524
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,240
So I'm like, OK, come on. 
Are you OK? 

525
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,400
Are you OK? 
And she was standing there with 

526
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,680
this elderly woman. 
And you could tell by the way 

527
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,440
this woman was dressed that she 
appeared to be an immigrant. 

528
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,440
And I've been to Eastern Europe 
several times throughout Eastern

529
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,480
Europe. 
And she just immediately was 

530
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,040
like, OK, she had that vibe 
about her. 

531
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,360
And she had been in, she was 
cleaning the restroom and Jason 

532
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:41,320
gone in and out. 
And she was Jay speaks Croatian,

533
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,760
German and English, but this 
woman was I think was from 

534
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,320
Romania maybe. 
And so maybe Poland, I don't 

535
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,520
remember. 
But but so all of a sudden, Jay 

536
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,680
says, she said. 
She's saying to me. 

537
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,960
That she has cancer. 
Somehow in just in the bathroom,

538
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,120
this came up and she's asking 
and Jace, when she said, well, 

539
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,840
you have cancer, she said, well,
my husband is a pastor, maybe we

540
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,120
could pray for you. 
So Jace, you know, here we are 

541
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,920
standing in the lobby of this 
rest stop and Jace is talking 

542
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,160
with her. 
I can't understand what they're 

543
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,280
saying, but they're talking. 
And so we pray over this woman. 

544
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,080
And it was. 
One of the most. 

545
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,720
Beautiful holy moments. 
And we were shocked that Chase 

546
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,600
understood the language that she
didn't know and that's this 

547
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,960
woman was speaking to us. 
And there's nothing that you 

548
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,560
could do to convince me that 
that wasn't a moment where God 

549
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,480
supernaturally did something in 
that moment where we were able 

550
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,560
to communicate with each other 
and we were able to encourage 

551
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,960
her. 
Kim, who attends church here, 

552
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,480
about a month ago, we were in 
the lobby and we were talking 

553
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,960
about these messages and and she
said to me and she was asking a 

554
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,680
question. 
She said she she developed a 

555
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,360
friendship some years ago, maybe
10, no longer, I think was in 

556
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,680
her college years. 
And this friend of hers was an 

557
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,760
immigrant. 
She was Muslim. 

558
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,880
And somehow, over a period of a 
couple days, they were able to 

559
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,400
communicate, though this woman 
didn't speak English and Kim 

560
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,760
didn't speak this woman's 
language. 

561
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,880
She said but it. 
Was really crazy because we were

562
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,280
really talking about deep things
and all these years later, as I 

563
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,120
was teaching a few weeks ago, 
she said to me. 

564
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,240
Do you think that that could? 
Have been a moment. 

565
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,880
Where there was like the 
spiritual gift of. 

566
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,760
Tongues and I said yes, sure, it
could have been. 

567
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,560
Maybe it? 
Was how cool is that? 

568
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,600
Because God's still moving in 
these ways And that might shock 

569
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,040
you and you might be cynical and
you might get in your head too 

570
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,160
much. 
But I'm telling you, I've seen 

571
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,320
it in my own life. 
And I hear, I hear testimony 

572
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,680
after testimony after testimony 
about often where God is still 

573
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,400
preaching the gospel and helping
people communicate and languages

574
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,280
that they don't know. 
And watch this at the Tower of 

575
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,360
Babel. 
Remember in the story in 

576
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,880
Genesis, remember they were 
building a tower that was going 

577
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,720
to reach to the heavens and they
thought they were greater than 

578
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,000
God. 
And what did God do? 

579
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,760
He confused their languages. 
What's happening after 

580
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,720
Pentecost? 
God's making sense of our 

581
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,800
languages. 
So that is the gift of various 

582
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,360
kinds of tongues and 
interpreting tongues. 

583
00:28:54,360 --> 00:29:00,600
Now in verse 11 Paul says all 
these all these gifts are 

584
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,080
empowered by 1 and the same 
Spirit. 

585
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,560
Who apportions to each one 
individually as he wills. 

586
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,920
So the gifts are spread out. 
It's not like the fruit of the 

587
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,560
Spirit where all believers get 
the same fruit or should. 

588
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,800
This is like the Holy Spirit 
chooses to give them to in 

589
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,200
different ways to different 
people. 

590
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,680
So he divides the list up. 
Now he's he's he's got his list 

591
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,640
of gifts and then he's going to 
have more gifts to talk about. 

592
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,760
But he goes into this discussion
about the body and he uses the, 

593
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,080
the metaphor of the body being 
like the church that has lots of

594
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,800
parts, but all are important and
equal in importance, right? 

595
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,520
And so he's illustrating that. 
And for the sake of time, I 

596
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,240
won't read that to you, but just
know he, he has like a little 

597
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,400
side, like a little tangent, OK,
But then he gets back to his 

598
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,800
list of the gifts. 
And then verse 28 he says, and 

599
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,600
God is appointed in the church, 
first apostles and 2nd prophets 

600
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,040
and third teachers. 
Let me unpack that briefly for 

601
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,200
you. 
Some Christians think that the 

602
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:04,960
apostles were only those who saw
and walked with Jesus like Peter

603
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,480
and John and James, the original
disciples. 

604
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,080
OK, Paul saw Jesus, the apostle 
Paul saw Jesus when he was on 

605
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,000
his horse on his road to 
Damascus. 

606
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,640
So he did see Jesus, right? 
So some think, oh, the apostles 

607
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,960
were only those who saw Jesus, 
but others I believe that, well,

608
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,840
no, there's really like an 
apostic style of leadership that

609
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,760
that are like leaders to 
leaders. 

610
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,120
And I think this is important in
the church. 

611
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,880
OK, so in my life, I'm a pastor 
and I have a pastor and I have 

612
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,040
people that I go to for wisdom 
and I have AI have like, I don't

613
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,960
know, 3 pastors in my life that 
that pastor a lot of pastors. 

614
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,320
And in my opinion, I would say 
that they are Apostolic. 

615
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,480
They're like apostles. 
They're leaders of leaders. 

616
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,400
Now it's not a they don't, it's 
not a government type thing. 

617
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,560
It's not a governing body they 
don't have. 

618
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,640
It's not like that. 
It's more like I seek them out 

619
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,320
and I appreciate now I don't 
call them apostle. 

620
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,400
They probably would would want 
me to call them apostle, but I 

621
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,160
think that it's a it's a mantle 
of leadership that is on some 

622
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,800
and I think it's beneficial and 
valuable for the body of Christ.

623
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,280
OK. 
And then second, we have the 

624
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,160
prophet. 
So here he is relisting some of 

625
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,760
them. 
He's being a little redundant in

626
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,440
his list of the gifts. 
And so those who have to get the

627
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,520
prophecy, they're like prophetic
in nature. 

628
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,080
They're pointed. 
They might preach not as nice as

629
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,960
me. 
They might be more direct, but 

630
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,120
they are there. 
And then they're third, the 

631
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,000
teachers. 
And I want to think that I have 

632
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,680
a spiritual gift of teaching, 
but I'm not the only one in our 

633
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,080
church that has a spiritual gift
of teaching. 

634
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,240
And This is why I'm so grateful 
right now that we're getting 

635
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,920
more and more and more small 
groups because if you have the 

636
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,840
spiritual gift of teaching, then
I want to encourage you in that.

637
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400
I want to help you develop as a 
teacher, and I want to encourage

638
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,440
you in that. 
So it's great to see more 

639
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,560
teachers rising up in our church
to build our church up. 

640
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,120
OK, so there are the teachers 
and then the miracles. 

641
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,960
Some of you again. 
Have. 

642
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,200
Faith for miracles and I love 
being around you. 

643
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,160
Then there are gifts of healing.
We talked about that. 

644
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,520
Then watch here, he says There 
are gifts of helping. 

645
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,480
Some of you. 
Never want to be in front of 

646
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,920
people there. 
There's some who attend our 

647
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,760
church very faithfully who love 
to come by in the daytime when 

648
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,200
no one else is here, and they 
love setting up chairs and they 

649
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,200
love doing odds and ends around 
the church. 

650
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,880
They love helping. 
That is a spiritual gift and 

651
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,040
when you marry, the spiritual 
gift of wanting to serve and 

652
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,680
help with your talents. 
See how well that can work 

653
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,480
together. 
OK, so there are those who have 

654
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,920
that helping. 
There's some. 

655
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,960
Let's just administrating. 
Wow. 

656
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,720
Some of you. 
Are great at administrating, 

657
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,360
like getting your head around 
systems. 

658
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,960
And numbers and that type of 
thing. 

659
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,640
I'm terrible at this one too, 
man. 

660
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,080
As I'm looking through this, I'm
terrible at a lot of these. 

661
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,760
OK, so administrating. 
But some of you, really, you 

662
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,800
just, you're wired for it. 
But it's not just your talent. 

663
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,960
Maybe you went to school and you
grew and you learned this system

664
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:01,640
and that system. 
But then when you understand, oh

665
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,360
wait a minute, the Holy Spirit 
can give me a supernatural gift?

666
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,760
Of like administrating oh I want
to. 

667
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,760
Put those together and see what 
happens. 

668
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,400
OK? 
It's a spiritual gift according 

669
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,680
to Paul. 
And then he again says in 

670
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,640
various kinds of tongues. 
Now, then he says in verse 29, 

671
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,800
he uses a rhetorical device, we 
would call it. 

672
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,320
He's going to ask a question 
that he knows the answer to. 

673
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,000
You do this with your kids. 
When you say, have you cleaned 

674
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,960
your room? 
You know they haven't, but when 

675
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,160
you ask them the question, 
you're making a point, right? 

676
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,480
You know they haven't. 
So watch. 

677
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,680
He's asking questions that he 
knows the obvious answer to. 

678
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,240
Now he'd said they're all the 
gifts were apportioned. 

679
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,920
So he says verse 29 are all 
apostles, are all prophets, are 

680
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,640
all teachers, do all work 
miracles? 

681
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,320
Do all possessed gifts of 
healing? 

682
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,960
Do all speak with tongues, do 
all interpret, but earnestly 

683
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,120
desire the higher gifts. 
And I will show you a still more

684
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,640
excellent way. 
OK, now watch this. 

685
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,040
What is this excellent way? 
He's like, OK, do you? 

686
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,600
Not everybody gets all these 
gifts. 

687
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,199
Some of you will get some, some 
of you get others. 

688
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,920
And then he goes and he says you
don't all get them. 

689
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,280
And I'm I'm. 
Going to show you a more 

690
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,800
excellent way than even the 
spiritual gifts. 

691
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,280
What could be better than the 
spiritual gifts? 

692
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,679
Well, this is where this 
passage, you know it, you've 

693
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:23,440
heard it in wedding, after 
wedding after wedding, 

694
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,159
Valentine's cards, all kinds of 
stuff. 

695
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,000
The more excellent way than the 
manifestations of the gift is 

696
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,159
love because in the next verse 
is this is where Paul goes to 

697
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,840
talking about love and he says, 
watch. 

698
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,760
This is going to make more sense
now because you hear the part of

699
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,199
the wedding where love is 
patient, love is kind, but how 

700
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,760
does he get there? 
In verse one The next chapter 

701
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,040
says if I. 
Speak in the tongues of men and 

702
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,320
of angels. 
But I have not love. 

703
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,320
Then I'm a noisy gong or a 
clanging symbol. 

704
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,639
And if I have prophetic powers 
and understand all mysteries and

705
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,360
all knowledge, and if I have all
faith so as to remove mountains 

706
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,280
but have not love, I'm nothing. 
Watch here. 

707
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,040
He's reworking his way through 
the supernatural gifts. 

708
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,720
He's saying them in a different 
way and he's like, watch this if

709
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,760
I have them. 
But I don't love then they're a 

710
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:16,040
waste, he says. 
If I give away all that I have, 

711
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,600
that's a spiritual gift of of 
giving generosity, and we'll get

712
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,840
to that. 
And if I deliver up my body to 

713
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,480
be burned but have not love, I 
gain nothing. 

714
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,160
Love is better than the gifts. 
And this is where he gets the 

715
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,240
part, you know. 
Love is patient and kind, and 

716
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,360
love does not envy your boast. 
It's not arrogant, it's not 

717
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,840
rude. 
It does not insist on its own 

718
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,280
way. 
It's not irritable or resentful.

719
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,960
I won't read the rest of. 
It you know it, it goes. 

720
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,520
On and on and on and he. 
Says in verse 9, For we know in 

721
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,320
part and we prophecy in part, 
but when the perfect comes, the 

722
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,080
partial will pass away. 
And in this, this is where some 

723
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,720
who again believe that the gifts
have ceased, They get this from 

724
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,000
here. 
And they think that when Paul's 

725
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,360
saying, for we know in part, we 
prophecy in part, but when the 

726
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,760
perfect comes, they think it 
means the Bible. 

727
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,760
When when the Bible is finished,
then that's perfect. 

728
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,400
Things are perfect. 
Those of us who believe the 

729
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,160
gifts continue, well, we think, 
no, no, when Paul's saying that 

730
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,720
he means when we get to heaven, 
when we're resurrected to be 

731
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:15,880
with Jesus forever, well, that's
perfection. 

732
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,640
Until then, the gifts are still 
available, but they're not 

733
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,800
meaningful or valuable if we 
don't have love. 

734
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,520
And that is his point. 
So the spiritual of the context,

735
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,520
spiritual context of him talking
about this type of love is in a 

736
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,440
discussion he's having about 
spiritual gifts. 

737
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,880
And maybe you didn't know that. 
Now Paul talks also about 

738
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,600
spiritual gifts in Romans 
chapter 3. 

739
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,880
Here's some other ones. 
OK, starting in verse three, he 

740
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,680
says for by grace given to me, I
say to everyone among you not to

741
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120
think of himself more highly 
than he ought to think. 

742
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,120
OK, so whatever he's going to 
talk about before he gets to 

743
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,440
talking about, he's like, hey, 
whatever you do keep. 

744
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,440
Pride at Bay, because. 
I'm going to talk about 

745
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,320
something that can lead to 
pride, OK? 

746
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,840
So whatever you do, don't think 
of yourself higher than you 

747
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,560
ought to think, OK? 
And he says but but think with 

748
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,720
sober judgment, each according 
to the measure. 

749
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,280
Of faith that God is assigned. 
So he addresses pride before he 

750
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,320
approaches his other gifts and 
he said for as in one body, he's

751
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,760
back to using the body metaphor 
they use in Corinthians. 

752
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,080
We have many members and the 
members do not all have the same

753
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,000
function. 
So we though many are one body 

754
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,440
in. 
Christ and individually members 

755
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,160
of one another and then watch 
verse 6 he's. 

756
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,480
Teed up by addressing pride and 
talking about the fact that 

757
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,560
we're the body. 
And in verse 6 he says having 

758
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,880
gifts that differ according to 
the grace given to us. 

759
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,400
Let us use them if prophecy in 
proportion to our faith if 

760
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,160
service. 
Here he goes back to this idea 

761
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,240
of serving if some of you were 
just wired supernaturally to 

762
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,880
serve in our serving the One who
teaches. 

763
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,120
In his In his teaching. 
The one who exhorts or 

764
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,520
encourages there is a spiritual 
gift that he's talking about. 

765
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,320
Some of you could just just get 
people fired up and encouraged. 

766
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,680
And you're an exhorter in his 
exhortation, the one who 

767
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,920
contributes and generosity. 
We should all be givers, but 

768
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,480
some of us have a supernatural 
gift of being even more. 

769
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,640
Generous like it's a. 
Spiritual gift, according to 

770
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,440
Paul, you might have that gift. 
You should be flowing in it. 

771
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,360
And then he's just the one who 
leads with the zeal. 

772
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,760
If you're a leader in your 
business, you might think. 

773
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,000
Man, I've got a. 
Business. 

774
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,200
I'm a teacher or whatever it is.
I've got a business. 

775
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:31,000
And and I have these. 
Skills to lead people, but wow, 

776
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,480
there's a spiritual gift of 
leadership. 

777
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,160
Oh, I want to marry. 
Those together I want to lead 

778
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,240
with a supernatural gift of 
leadership. 

779
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,080
And when you do that, you 
combine it. 

780
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,160
It leads. 
To new levels of great 

781
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,680
leadership. 
And then it says the one who 

782
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,960
does acts of mercy with 
cheerfulness. 

783
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,640
I love this one. 
Mercy is the fruit of the 

784
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,120
spirit, I said, But then there's
a spiritual gift of mercy. 

785
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,400
Some people supernatural, just 
more empathetic. 

786
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,760
I don't have this. 1 I want to 
have the fruit of mercy. 

787
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,080
But some of you, you're just, 
you just are wired 

788
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,240
supernaturally to just love with
mercy. 

789
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,160
And we need that in the church. 
And in my opinion, mercy is 

790
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,680
miraculous. 
It's supernatural. 

791
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,120
It's not one of the mundane 
gifts, but instead it's equal in

792
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,560
value to prophecy and teaching 
and leadership and the others 

793
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,920
now. 
I'm going to wind down, but as I

794
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,480
do, I just, I I have in your 
notes here the abuse of the 

795
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,600
gifts to the level of fraud in 
news recently. 

796
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,400
You must know that the reason 
why a lot of people are not open

797
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,920
to the gifts of the Spirit is 
because they've seen the concept

798
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,880
or the belief of it misused or 
weirded. 

799
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,560
Out you saw some. 
Weird. 

800
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,040
Teaching about the gifts and 
because of what you just kind of

801
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,840
thought, wow, none of it is for 
good I guess. 

802
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,840
When I was, I would have been 
like 14, we went to a church. 

803
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,240
It was considered like a Word of
Faith type church and people who

804
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,560
love the Lord, of course, great 
people. 

805
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,360
But I remember being in the 
service and they were praying 

806
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,800
for people to be filled with the
Holy Spirit. 

807
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,880
And I told another story a 
couple weeks ago that was 

808
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,000
different. 
OK, this is a different story. 

809
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,440
But in this service I was 
praying to receive the Holy 

810
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,920
Spirit, right? 
I wanted to receive and be 

811
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,480
filled, baptized in the Holy 
Spirit. 

812
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,680
And so in this church tradition.
The evidence of being filled 

813
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,600
with the Holy Spirit would be 
speaking in tongues. 

814
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,200
OK, so this particular it was a 
pastors wife who was teaching 

815
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,960
and she said that when you when 
you get filled Holy Spirit, then

816
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,040
you're going to speak in 
tongues. 

817
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,800
And she said it's like being a 
baby. 

818
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:39,400
And when you're a baby, you 
don't speak in full sentences. 

819
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000
You don't, you don't like you. 
Instead you get like a word or 

820
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,080
two. 
So she said that's how babies 

821
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,680
talk. 
Well, your baby now is what she 

822
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,520
was saying in the Holy Spirit. 
So she said, if you get like one

823
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,320
word, just say that one word 
over and over and over again. 

824
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,680
So she said like, let's for 
example, and this was her word. 

825
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,640
She said, what if you get the 
word macaroni and just pray 

826
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,960
Macaroni, macaroni, macaroni, 
macaroni, macaroni, macaroni, 

827
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,120
macaroni, macaroni until the 
Lord gives you more words. 

828
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,520
That's weird. 
And I don't think that's the way

829
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:12,640
it works, so OK, so. 
I that was me, right? 

830
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,480
14 years old and bless her 
heart, that's a sudden saying 

831
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,480
that maybe I should use some 
different saying, but you know, 

832
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:21,320
but. 
I'm not. 

833
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,840
I don't. 
Want to be overly judgmental or 

834
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,840
overly harsh? 
But that type of weirdness, it 

835
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,120
it does. 
It affects us when it comes to 

836
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,760
our openness to the gifts of the
Spirit. 

837
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,680
Because we think this is stupid.
That must not be real. 

838
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,080
And you're like, wait a minute, 
it doesn't negate the gifts of 

839
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,400
the spirit because somebody had 
some weird thought about it. 

840
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,800
OK, Yeah. 
That that's not the end of it. 

841
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,560
OK, I'll tell you another story.
So once OK Right out of college,

842
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,840
my first job was such a great 
job. 

843
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,000
I directed short term mission 
trips. 

844
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,880
So I'm 2122 years old and I 
would go to like Venezuela with 

845
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,400
me and another guy and we would 
plan, like to bring sports and 

846
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,920
performing arts teams that were 
high school and college students

847
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,480
to Venezuela. 
So we'd go down for like 10 

848
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,080
days. 
We'd book hotels, book 

849
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,920
restaurants, book buses, we'd 
schedule sports matches and 

850
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,600
concerts. 
And it was really, really, 

851
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,520
really great. 
And so I'd gone to Venezuela 

852
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,280
several times. 
I'd gone to the Ukraine back 

853
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,520
then about 1/2 a dozen times in 
the 90s, maybe then four or five

854
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,320
times. 
But so I was working at a church

855
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,920
in the Saint Louis area and the 
pastor, you know, wanted me to 

856
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,200
lead mission trips. 
I'm like, I, I, I got that. 

857
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,760
I got experience in this. 
I love doing this. 

858
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:33,000
And so, but he, he named where 
he wanted me to go, OK. 

859
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,520
And he wanted me to go to 
Guatemala. 

860
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,880
And there was a ministry that, 
that the church had relationship

861
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,560
with. 
So we went to Guatemala. 

862
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,200
And I must tell you, we didn't 
do any missions work at all. 

863
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,520
It was like a sightseeing trip 
at best. 

864
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,520
So we go and this this 
particular missionary had this 

865
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,800
big hanger with all these fancy 
planes in it. 

866
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:51,480
And it was kind of this thing of
like, we were there to see his 

867
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,720
planes and it was like behind 
this gated community. 

868
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:57,600
And I hate to sound critical, 
but I'm critical. 

869
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,120
OK, So when I'm there we didn't 
really. 

870
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,160
Do any ministry It was just 
watching. 

871
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,680
They're wealth on display. 
OK, so I'm like, God, I want to 

872
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,520
go back to the Ukraine. 
I want to do real like I I know 

873
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,840
people there and I can get my 
hands in the. 

874
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,200
Dirt and we could do things 
right. 

875
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,880
So there was a minister. 
There was a woman. 

876
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,000
Her name is Marilyn Hickey. 
I'll tell you her name, Marilyn 

877
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,960
Hickey. 
Some of you have heard of her. 

878
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,560
She is now she's probably 90 
years old and she's a legend of 

879
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,320
sorts. 
So she pastors with her husband.

880
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,240
I guess he's a pastor and she's 
a speaker in in Denver. 

881
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,320
OK, so this woman comes to the 
church that I was the worst 

882
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,560
leader at this have been like 94
and I was really kind of greed 

883
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,680
because I'm thinking, I just got
back from this Guatemala trip 

884
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,120
and I asked the pastor, can I go
to Ukraine next time? 

885
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,920
And he was like, it wasn't open 
to it. 

886
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,600
So we're in a service and she 
she says to me, she's like, I 

887
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,160
have a word from you, from the 
Lord. 

888
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,360
And she said, God is showing me 
you have a heart for Ukraine, 

889
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,600
you have a heart for the 
Ukraine. 

890
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,040
And God is saying, hold on to 
that, don't let it go, etcetera,

891
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,600
etcetera, etcetera. 
You know what happened? 

892
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,520
The pastor let me take a 
missions trip to Ukraine the 

893
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,560
next time. 
Now, how could she have known 

894
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,920
that? 
I just think the Lord spoken to 

895
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,680
her. 
But maybe you've seen that type 

896
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,520
of thing used in a, in a, in a 
fraudulent way. 

897
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,760
So recently in the news, there's
a guy, his name is Sean Bowles 

898
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,720
BOLZ and he is a speaker, I 
guess, pastor. 

899
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,760
And he would do these big 
events, big like conferences and

900
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,680
it came out in the last month, 
maybe saw it. 

901
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,640
It's in the news a lot of 
places. 

902
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,280
And what he was doing is if you 
went to his conference, you'd 

903
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,040
put your name and maybe your 
address or whatever. 

904
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,840
And he would go through and he 
would look at the people that 

905
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,200
were coming to the conference 
and then he would he this is 

906
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,200
what they know now. 
He would go to Facebook and he 

907
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,720
would mine information about 
those people from Facebook. 

908
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,960
And then he would stand up in 
the service and he'd say, OK, 

909
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,120
stand up, 10th row right over 
there, 4th stand up, OK, Or, or 

910
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,160
he'd say, is there a John Doe in
the house? 

911
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,520
Where's John, John Doe? 
Stand up, OK. 

912
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,040
And he would tell them their 
address. 

913
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,240
He'd tell them how many kids 
they had and he would tell them 

914
00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,000
all the stuff that he'd found 
out on Facebook. 

915
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,720
The people of the congregation 
were like, oh wow, isn't that 

916
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:02,720
amazing? 
Wow. 

917
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:07,040
Well, no, in the end it was 
fraud and he was fleecing people

918
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,480
for money. 
It's a big mess now. 

919
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,920
Does that mean that that that 
can't happen? 

920
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,280
Happened in my life, Pastor's 
wife said. 

921
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,920
You have a heart for Ukraine. 
And it altered something that I 

922
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,600
would I had a passion for, 
right? 

923
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,800
So my point in that is that 
you're going to see a lot of 

924
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,160
preachers who say they're 
flowing in the gifts of the 

925
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:34,200
Spirit, but they're fraudulent 
and they're crooks or they're, 

926
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,840
they're just, they're just, it 
could be as simple as macaroni, 

927
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,800
macaroni, macaroni. 
Is she a heretic when she was 

928
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,920
saying that? 
No, she's just weird, right? 

929
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,360
So you're going to see people 
that are that are flowing in the

930
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,400
gifts. 
Some are going to be fraudulent,

931
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,360
like criminal, some of them are 
just going to be a little. 

932
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,120
Off, but that doesn't mean that 
they're not for us to lean into 

933
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,760
and to utilize OK, I'll tell you
one last story because I think 

934
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,880
stories help also when I was in 
college, I would have been like 

935
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,760
20 years old 21 and I was in 
this this band that was touring 

936
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,240
and we were in Austria, Germany,
Switzerland and Holland. 

937
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:17,360
It was really cool. 
We're there for like a month and

938
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,480
then we would. 
Come back and tour over the 

939
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,440
States and and so when we were 
in Germany, we played for this 

940
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,440
youth event. 
And if thousands of kids, let's 

941
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,880
say 3 or 4000 kids at this event
and we're the worst team, you 

942
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,600
know, And back then, by the way,
I learned, we learned songs in 

943
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,360
German and I later found out how
bad we were singing them because

944
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,640
when I met Jason, I was so proud
of my I know some German worship

945
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,760
songs and I'm like, do oh, it 
was a song we sing called like 

946
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,640
you, O Lord, you're exalted 
above the earth. 

947
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,800
Right was the English version. 
And so we sang that all over, 

948
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,600
you know, Germany. 
And that summer. 

949
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,240
Then later when I met Jace and I
told her this, she goes, oh, my 

950
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:53,280
gosh, she goes, you're singing 
you, oh, Lord, you live 

951
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,080
upstairs. 
So whoever translated it was 

952
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,760
supposed to be like, you're 
exalted above all God. 

953
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,440
You're higher than everything. 
But they translate it. 

954
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,840
You live in the upstairs part of
the house. 

955
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,440
OK, so. 
So. 

956
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,960
But we're playing at this youth 
event. 

957
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,040
OK. 
And after we've LED worship, I 

958
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,840
sit down. 
And the speaker was from India. 

959
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,000
I can't even tell you his name. 
But I was like sitting just 

960
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,800
right on the front row and he 
said, young man, would you stand

961
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,000
out? 
And he went into this like the 

962
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,760
Lord wants to speak to you. 
And he then like went into some 

963
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,080
things I won't. 
I thought about getting getting 

964
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,640
what he read or what he said to 
me because I ended up getting a 

965
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,480
cassette of it. 
This was 35 years ago. 

966
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,240
I got a cassette of it and I 
typed it. 

967
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:37,680
Out and I put it like taped it 
in one of my Bibles that I 

968
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,360
really. 
Loved back then. 

969
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Now it's all beat up and and 
this Bible's not one that I go 

970
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,360
too often anymore, but every so 
often I'm like, oh, I need to go

971
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,320
find that Bible because I have 
that word like it's a it's an 

972
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,000
Ebenezer, right? 
We talked about this last week 

973
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,040
and it is so it's there. 
And he said things to me like in

974
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,160
the seasons and chapters to 
come, there will be really 

975
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,560
obvious times where I stepped in
Curt and you reached out to me 

976
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,640
and thus. 
Like this is the Lord speaking 

977
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,320
to you, that I will be there for
you. 

978
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,560
In those moments when you reach 
out, I will be there for you. 

979
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,320
It's generic. 
He could have said it to anyone,

980
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,320
but I'm telling you, as the 
years went by, these 35 years, 

981
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,800
every so often I'll go back and 
read. 

982
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,400
I'm like, man, that really was 
profoundly for me. 

983
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,480
Not not individually for me. 
It could have been others heard,

984
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,280
but it was like it meant 
something to me. 

985
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,200
It was meaningful and. 
I. 

986
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,160
Look back and I'm. 
Grateful for that now. 

987
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,560
I tell you these stories 
because. 

988
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,600
Man, I would love to. 
See our church grow in our 

989
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,560
spiritual gifts and so. 
How do you? 

990
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,640
How do you? 
Figure out what yours. 

991
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,880
Is well, you can go online and 
there are spiritual gift 

992
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,640
inventories you could take and 
they'll ask you some questions. 

993
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,760
And certainly if you want to do 
that, by all means do that. 

994
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,240
But I might shock you by telling
you that when Paul wrote this to

995
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:02,000
the early church, they didn't 
have the Internet and they 

996
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,160
didn't have a place to go to 
take a spiritual gifts 

997
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,360
inventory. 
So how did they figure it? 

998
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,360
Out. 
Well, here's what I think. 

999
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:14,120
I think they chased after. 
Jesus and not the spiritual 

1000
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,040
gifts see because if you start 
going after the. 

1001
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,080
Gifts. 
Well, then you can get. 

1002
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,960
Prideful about them and you can 
lose focus on I'm really just 

1003
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,520
wanting to be about Jesus and I 
want to be about being filled 

1004
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,680
with the Holy Spirit, but but 
it's not that when I get filled 

1005
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,480
those I get this evidence. 
No, it's more like I just want 

1006
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:33,160
to be about the things of God 
and then as I am, then what 

1007
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,760
you'll find is that your 
spiritual gifts will come to 

1008
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,800
the. 
Top you'll start seeing. 

1009
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,160
Yourself flowing in. 
Them now you got to learn and 

1010
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,040
you got to know that they're 
there and you've got to be 

1011
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,360
looking for them. 
But but I don't think it's as 

1012
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,840
simple as I think some of the 
spiritual gift tests, yes, 

1013
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,160
they're insightful. 
OK, I don't want to be totally 

1014
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,880
negative on them, but I just 
want to encourage you to say it.

1015
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,240
Can be more organic. 
Than that and you might be 

1016
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:58,920
surprised. 
And you might be. 

1017
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,720
What's interesting for some of 
you is your, as I was talking, 

1018
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:03,640
maybe you went, oh, I have that 
one. 

1019
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:10,400
Maybe you go, I maybe you know, 
mercy or or serving or teaching 

1020
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,920
or administrating. 
You might go, oh, I already had 

1021
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,760
that. 
And now you're like, oh, it's a 

1022
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,920
spiritual thing. 
I didn't know that it was coming

1023
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,840
from the Spirit of God. 
I just thought it was a talent 

1024
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,560
or. 
Something so when you when you 

1025
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,000
see. 
It for what it is that it can 

1026
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,960
lead you to a place. 
Where you lean into it. 

1027
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,120
More and say God fill me again 
and when you fill me again, God 

1028
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,280
let these gifts. 
That you have dormant in me or 

1029
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,920
maybe in their infancy in me. 
Help them to grow to greater 

1030
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:45,000
heights for the common good. 
Of the body, let me pray for us.

1031
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,640
God, this was a lot of 
information this morning. 

1032
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,840
And I hope it wasn't just a fire
hose. 

1033
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,800
Instead, I pray that Holy 
Spirit, you would enable us to 

1034
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,480
gather what is really important 
in this message. 

1035
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,880
And I do pray that as. 
Individuals who would grow. 

1036
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,680
Us in our spiritual gifts and as
a church God, how much? 

1037
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,160
Greater could we? 
Be for each other, for our 

1038
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,800
families, for our community if 
we flourish. 

1039
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,880
And grow. 
In our spiritual gifts, so we're

1040
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:29,400
open and we're hungry. 
So grow us, we pray, and Jesus 

1041
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,000
name. 
And everyone loudly. 

1042
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,640
Together said Amen and Amen. 
Let's all stand together. 

1043
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,600
Hey by the way, I did. 
I I meant to say this I. 

1044
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,080
Really recommend this book by RT
Kendall called Holy Fire. 

1045
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,800
OK, if you're eager to learn 
more about these things, you can

1046
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,760
get it on audio. 
The audible version of it. 

1047
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,880
This is the version I read that 
was and paperback by RT Kendall.

1048
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,880
Holy fire. 
If you forget, e-mail me and 

1049
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,120
I'll send that out to you. 
All right, I want to send you 

1050
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,760
out now with a blessing. 
So if you'll prepare at your 

1051
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,800
heart to receive this blessing 
before you go. 

1052
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,720
And now may the Lord. 
Bless you and. 

1053
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:06,840
Keep you and may he. 
Make. 

1054
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,360
His face to shine. 
Upon you and. 

1055
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,000
May the joy of the Lord that is 
unspeakable and full of glory, 

1056
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,280
may it abound to you, and may 
the peace of God the past. 

1057
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,680
Is all understanding. 
May it surprise you in the midst

1058
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,320
of all of the challenges that 
life brings, and then may the 

1059
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,360
mercies of the Lord, in other 
words, the forgiveness of God. 

1060
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,240
That is new every morning. 
May it be especially new to you 

1061
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:31,480
now and your mornings to come. 
And now, may the Lord Jesus 

1062
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,560
Christ guard your heart and your
mind. 

1063
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,280
You were salt and you were 
light. 

1064
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,680
Go now and be salt and light 
into the world. 

1065
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,880
You are blessed. 
We'll see you again sometime 

1066
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:40,200
soon.