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Today I'm going on a style 
journey with actress, TV 

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presenter, philanthropist and 
entrepreneur, the gorgeous 

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Geordie girl, Donna Eyre. 
Hello and welcome, Donna. 

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Hello, Amanda, it's. 
Lovely to see. 

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You thank you for having me on 
your podcast. 

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Oh, my lovely home. 
It's a pleasure because I know 

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you are super busy right now, so
you're in. 

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You're playing part of Lauren in
222 at the Gilgood Theatre. 

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Yes, I tell you about it. 
Oh my God, it's so much fun. 

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I'm having a real really good 
time. 

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It's kind of obviously it's 
they're long hours and there's 

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lots of shows, but it has been 
an absolute blast. 

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We have never laughed so much on
a job and if it's just been. 

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Now, is that because of the 
other actors? 

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Or is it because of the 
storyline or? 

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Yeah, I mean, I kind of love our
little work gang family and I 

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think we're all very happy with 
the, you know, who's who ended 

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up coming together because we 
just all really get along well 

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and we have a lot of fun and 
even, you know, obviously, so 

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the directors and the assistant 
directors, they've all done this

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before and that. 
Yeah, that's just a really great

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team. 
So it's been there's been a lot 

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of giggles, which also helps. 
And the the plot line of 222 is.

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So it's it's about four people 
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various things that happened 
throughout the evening. 

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And a lot of things do happen 
throughout the evening. 

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So I play Lauren, who is a 
psychotherapist and I bring my 

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boyfriend Ben to the dinner 
party of Sam and Jenny, and 

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Jenny is is a little bit 
unnerved by some things that 

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have been happening in her 
house. 

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So the point of the evening is 
to prove whether ghosts exist or

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not. 
What fun? 

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And you say you play a 
psychotherapist, do you? 

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What sort of research do you do 
before getting into the part for

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something like that? 
Well, everybody has their 

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different ways of preparing. 
For me, I always start with 

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obviously I like to be off page.
So just learning all my lines 

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because it gives you the freedom
to be able to to do that. 

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I didn't quite get the chance to
do that because it's quite a 

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quick turn around. 
What? 

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Was the turn around? 
It was. 

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It was very tight. 
It was very tight. 

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Yeah, I think I went for the 
meeting on the Thursday. 

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They called me on the Thursday 
evening and said we'd love you 

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to do it. 
So normally I would do my own 

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prep before I even go into 
rehearsals. 

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But no, I was straight into 
rehearsals. 

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But but when? 
On this Saturday. 

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No. 
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God that makes me feel really 
sick. 

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Yeah, it's always the way in 
this business like. 

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OK, so straight in SO. 
Straight in and then we had a 

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three-week rehearsal period to 
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So obviously mapping out all the
action because obviously it's 

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not so much the lines, it's all 
of the action because the 

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choreography on the play, 
obviously it's all these moving 

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parts and everybody's 
choreography has to work 

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together very tightly, otherwise
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So every glass has to be filled 
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It's got to be positioned in a 
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So. 
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all of that, all the hard work 
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moving train from there on. 
It's just which we don't even 

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think about it now. 
It's just second nature. 

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And then you must have gone into
costume pretty quickly. 

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Yeah. 
And does that help you get into 

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character? 
Did you have any input on that? 

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Yeah, it it, it does. 
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really important. 
What we you would know that that

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clothes can make make you feel 
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That's why clothes are such a 
wonderful thing for women 

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really, because they can make 
you feel you become what you 

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wear really. 
So it's so the clothes are very 

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important. 
And yes, and you know what, just

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being on stage has been such a 
great exercise again, because I 

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think it teaches you to be 
bigger and to be braver, you 

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know, and so much of you know, 
especially as we get older 

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women, you know, you can be get 
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So it's a big reminder to just 
be brave and go big. 

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And it's been wonderful to have 
the time to really get into the 

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character and also the 
physicality of it, because it's 

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a very physical play. 
And to be able to really get 

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into your body. 
It's been a real treat and a 

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real joy because obviously when 
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everything we do is, yeah, very 
small, very still. 

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Yes, and your facial movements 
are very subtle on camera. 

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I would imagine yes. 
Do you have to exaggerate them? 

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Yeah, so you know, a lot of 
obviously the performance is 

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getting it bigger and bigger and
bigger and higher and higher 

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because everything I do or 
mainly the work I've done has 

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been on camera. 
And I as a performer prefer the 

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the subtlety of doing things, 
you know, and feeling it on a 

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smaller scale. 
So it's been a really great 

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exercise because, you know, you 
think it's ham or camp, but it's

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going too big and then I know 
just keep going bigger. 

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So it's because they've done it.
They're they're a very, you 

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know, they're a great team. 
It it's wonderful when you can 

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trust the people around you. 
And we all have that. 

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So I I trust that they, they 
know what they're doing. 

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So it's been wonderful and yeah,
they know exactly what level it 

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should be at and we're hopefully
all there now. 

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Do you have a sort of pre show 
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Yeah, we do. 
We do. 

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So we do a warm up every day. 
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So we do a little bit of vocal 
warming up, we do a bit of 

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physical warm up. 
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the, the 646 of us on stage. 
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So we do that every day. 
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difference because it's it's 
also just about coming together 

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as a team. 
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because, you know, you hear 
particularly who is it? 

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It's Judi Dench that is supposed
to be one of the naughtiest 

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actresses on the planet on 
stage. 

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You know, she's apparently 
forever playing pranks on her on

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her Co stars. 
Yes, there's been. 

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A bit of pranks. 
Yeah, because I mean, I, I mean,

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I always think of when you start
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lose it on stage, you've got 
nowhere to go. 

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Yes, exactly. 
I was just trying to think. 

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Actually, I did play prank on 
Stacey on in rehearsals. 

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Thankfully she's still talking 
to me. 

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What? 
Did you do? 

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Because we, Stacey, myself and 
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playing what I love about 
Stacey, she's a bit like me. 

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She's a bit of a hustler. 
We're always thinking of, you 

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know, production ideas. 
We're we're always creating 

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something. 
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And I think lots of women that I
know are like that. 

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So we're always going, oh, we 
could do this. 

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We could do that. 
So what I love about Stacey, 

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she's a real grafter. 
She works hard. 

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Seems to be, yeah. 
And I'm like that. 

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I've always worked and I love 
work. 

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So anyway, we would, you know, 
like most people going, how can 

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we do this in da da, da da Oh, 
and we want, you know, we like 

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to go shopping and like to book 
holidays. 

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So we were like, let's go and 
get some. 

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We were getting scratch cards. 
So we had this sort of this 222 

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syndicates, everybody's going 
out. 

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I've got you some scratch cards 
today. 

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It was so funny. 
So the director and Stacey and I

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were doing some scratch cards 
and it was my turn to go and get

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the scratch cards. 
So I bought Stacey a scratch 

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card, but it was a fake one so 
she thought she'd won. 

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She was really, really her 
little face. 

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It was quite cute. 
I do have the video somewhere. 

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What did She won. 
She'd won. 

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Won. 
Yeah, so she had won £250,000 

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and hold on and she's thinking, 
you know, great, that's my 

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kitchen paid for. 
So she's. 

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Got a new house paid for? 
She's going, so she's, she's 

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going way fun, fun in the whole 
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and Stacey's very excited that 
we've won. 

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And I was thinking, oh, I hadn't
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because I have, I've got it now.
Now I've got a lot to tell her. 

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She hasn't. 
So then I, I was like, oh, I've 

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got to tell her. 
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no, it's a it's a joke. 
It's a joke and she wasn't 

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accepting it. 
She's gone. 

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It's not, it's real. 
It's real. 

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Look at it. 
So she's putting the card in my 

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face to show me that this card 
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I'm going, no, it's, it's not 
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So there's there have been some 
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And how long is the show running
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It's until August 4th and it's, 
yeah, it's a really great show. 

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It's written so well because I'd
I'd been to see the show. 

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Well be obviously before I 
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Cheryl Cole and actually in Jake
Wood and it it's written by 

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Danny Robbins, who's a great 
writer, really amazing. 

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And now that you've had the 
chance to really study the text 

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and really get under it, there's
so many things that you notice 

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that I didn't see the first time
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And I think that's why we had a 
have a lot of people that a lot 

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of people do come back to see 
this show again and again, 

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because there are so many things
that you might not have noticed 

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the first or second time, but 
there is so much going on in 

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there and there are a lot of 
clues. 

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The writing is really very 
clever. 

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And Danny Robbins is also a 
fellow Northerners. 

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So he grew up in Jesmond in 
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It was interesting talking to 
him about, you know, his process

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and writing the play because it 
really is, it's, it's a really 

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fun and clever show actually. 
So it's, it's, it's a real joy 

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to be doing. 
I've got to come and see it, 

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what other projects are brewing 
at the moment? 

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There's a lot I'm I've got a few
things that I'm kind of noodling

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on myself very slowly, albeit so
I'm doing a little bit of 

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writing. 
There's a few things that I'm 

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producing and exec producing. 
So that's quite fun. 

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TV or. 
Yeah, film and television 

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projects. 
So lots of things in 

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development, which is great. 
And also, yeah, I'm kind of just

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reading scripts to see what I 
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that I'm all warmed up in the 
theater and though. 

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What would be your dream role 
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Absolute dream dream. 
Role do you know what I do like 

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the comedy stuff and this 
obviously the play is is is 

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comedy too and I like the speed 
of it actually, because comedy 

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looks very but it it occupies my
brain because it's the speed and

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it's very. 
Very alive. 

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To have got to be very alive and
there's always a lot going on. 

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There's a lot of action. 
It's very physical and it's very

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pacey and I kind of enjoy that. 
But all, you know, there's so 

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many great things and I, I, I 
just love really interesting, 

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strong female characters. 
And I'm finally getting those 

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parts now. 
I'm getting older, I'm getting 

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more interesting roles. 
But isn't that wonderful? 

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Yeah. 
Because, I mean, it was only 

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probably a decade ago. 
Yeah, that would not be 

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happening. 
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specifically. 
This is a 40 year old woman. 

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This is a 60 year old. 
Woman, there's definitely a lot 

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things are moving slowly, but 
that, yeah, it is 'cause I was 

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always very nervous about 
investing too much time into 

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being an actor because I did 
always think it's a business 

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that will just spit you out at 
40. 

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And actually, thanks to a lot of
women before us, actresses and 

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directors and things, things are
there is definitely much more 

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for, you know, for my age group 
and and above really as it 

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should. 
Be as it should be, but it's 

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it's lovely. 
I, I love the phrase holding 

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your toes to the fire. 
And I, I think there's something

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very refreshing about as we get 
older and go through different 

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chapters, we just sort of give 
ourselves a new challenge 

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basically. 
Exactly. 

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Now today we're going on a style
journey. 

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OK, so how did you decide what 
you were putting on to come here

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today? 
I didn't really. 

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Think about it that much. 
I actually did. 

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I did change. 
I wish I I had a Obviously the 

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weather is very confusing. 
Oh. 

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My God, it was freezing. 
This morning it was freezing, so

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I had a sweater on and then I 
was like, I need to put 

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something a bit cooler on and 
also just something a bit 

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fresher because it's spring, 
right I. 

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Know well it's supposed to be 
summer. 

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How far are we off summer 
itself? 

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So but I generally don't really 
think about what I'm wearing 

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that much anymore. 
I'm much more comfortable. 

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I basically my style DNA every 
day is probably pale denim jeans

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and a white T-shirt. 
Not no, but that is it like just

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or like really comfortable 
T-shirts and really nice denim? 

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And your blouse today. 
Oh, this is Phil Shenko. 

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Actually very pushy. 
Yeah. 

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But I am. 
Yeah. 

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I'm just happy. 
And T-shirts and jeans. 

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Literally, that's my go. 
To It's a good uniform, isn't 

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it? 
Yeah. 

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Now you grew up in Newcastle, 
Newcastle, Newcastle. 

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Were you very aware of your 
mother's style? 

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I think most children 
subconsciously are always aware 

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of their mother's style. 
There's something about my mum 

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that's always been very elegant 
that I think has definitely 

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influenced me. 
But you started acting at the 

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tender age of 10, was it? 
How did that in Biker Grove? 

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How did that come about? 
I was doing drama groups and 

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classes and things because I had
lots of energy and the producers

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go around schools and theatre 
groups and ask people to do 

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background work. 
So I was doing extra work. 

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You know, you paid, I don't 
know, 20 bucks or whatever to go

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and on and be a walk on. 
You do background work. 

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So I was doing that actually, 
and then one of the producers 

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saw me on the monitor and asked 
if I would audition for 

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principal role of Charlie 
Charlton, which I did and the 

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rest is history. 
Amazing. 

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I mean, do you remember the 
costumes? 

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Yes, I do remember. 
My costumes actually, because I 

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actually had quite cool costumes
and it was the first time, you 

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know, people come in with great 
clothes for me to wear. 

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And I just thought that was so 
amazing. 

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But growing up in Newcastle 
clothes, like I think for a lot 

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of Newcastle women, they're kind
of, I mean, the whole week for 

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me growing up was geared towards
my Saturday night outfit. 

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Well, that is my next question 
because it's got a quite a club 

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scene, hasn't it, Newcastle. 
I really put lots of time and 

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thought into planning my outfits
as a teenage girl and I remember

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them, you know, they'd be like a
pencil skirt look with a shirt. 

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And I remember once a silver 
fishnet dress over a silver 

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bikini which. 
Caused clubbing. 

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Which caused some arguments with
my father on the way out of the 

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house. 
It's kind of basically when 

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you're not going out like that. 
And I think I responded by 

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saying, yes, I am. 
And he said no, you're not. 

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And it kind of went on like that
for a while. 

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Did you get I'm? 
Not somebody that ever really 

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packed down and I'm definitely 
being paid back now with my own 

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daughter because neither is she 
but I feisty women. 

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I think that it does go full 
circle. 

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Doesn't it? 
She doesn't. 

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She also knows her mind. 
So. 

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I wonder where that came. 
From it's a it's a good thing, 

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but obviously raising it can 
have its moments. 

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You then went on set up Biker 
Groove, which I thought was 

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incredibly yes, your pop group. 
How did you go about choosing 

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your stage looks for that? 
Was that, Was that an important 

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part of who you were? 
So my pop star days, that was so

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much fun because we were signed 
to London Record Company. 

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So obviously we went and toured 
Japan, America. 

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Our songs charted better 
overseas than they did in the 

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UK. 
Incredible. 

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So we would go, we had like, I 
think we had the second biggest 

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selling single in Texas at one 
point, which I met up with an 

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old MTV buddy and he said 
Beyoncé loved our track or 

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something. 
When she came on my show. 

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There's all these memories 
coming back that I actually 

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forgot about. 
So we, the record company would,

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you know, would get to go buy 
clothes, which kind of obviously

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we were paying for, but you sort
of, it doesn't feel like you are

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when the record company takes 
you shopping. 

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So we'd go and, but I remember 
going, do you remember Voyage, 

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that ridiculously expensive 
store on the Fulham Rd. 

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It was just so fun being able to
go to all of these shops and buy

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designer clothes that I'd never 
really bought before. 

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Spending the profits. 
Yes, spending them literally 

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that. 
My money has always gone on 

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clothes. 
So I bought these silver 

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trousers in Voyage with a silver
top. 

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That was one pop video. 
And then also we were travelling

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a lot on tour. 
So you know that in America. 

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I remember calling my mother 
from a mall crying down the 

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phone going please, I need some 
money to eat. 

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She's like, where's all your 
money gone? 

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She's like, but the record 
company are giving you money for

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meals and per diem. 
So I was like, I know, but I've 

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spent it on these shoes and 
Prada because I would literally 

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be staying in like malls in 
Vegas and I would spend, I 

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would, I just wouldn't have any 
sense. 

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I'd just see the shoes and buy 
them, you know, So I'd buy the 

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shoes. 
I remember once I was in Gucci 

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in Vegas and I bought these 
beautiful little white gloves. 

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I thought, oh, they'd be 
fabulous in my next pop video. 

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So I get all the way to the 
airport. 

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I'm thinking I'll put my gloves 
on my new little Gucci gloves. 

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I was only about 16. 
I mean. 

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You are a kid. 
Yes, so I was putting my Gucci 

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gloves on and say one in the 
box. 

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So I'm furious. 
I'm go all the way back to Gucci

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before I miss my flight. 
And I go to the guy in the shop.

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I'm like, you know, this is just
not really on. 

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I bought these gloves and 
there's one in the box and now 

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I'm really going to miss my 
flight. 

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And he looked at me like, oh, 
this poor stupid girl. 

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He's like, ma'am, it's a golf 
gloves. 

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I was like, oh, OK, do I look 
like I play golf? 

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Then he tried to sell me another
one. 

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So I was so I was like, OK, 
contemplating buying another one

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so I'd have a pair. 
It's so stupid. 

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I mean, so stupid. 
Fashion gets all young women. 

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It's terrible. 
And and he should sell me the 

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same hand. 
So I was like, do I look like I 

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have two right hands? 
Did you make the flight? 

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I'm not sure, but I I had my 
gloves and that's all I cared 

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about growing up was my outfit. 
But when you were part of the 

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band, did you have a stylist 
that came with you or were you 

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just allowed to run riot with 
the wardrobe We. 

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Had stylists at various points, 
but obviously we'd also just do 

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what we wanted. 
Just went rogue and what what's 

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happened to all of that stuff 
I've. 

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Given it all away, my daughter 
is horrified. 

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That's a shame, isn't it? 
Because she's like, where is 

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that Dolce Gabbana leather biker
jacket? 

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You remember the one that 
Victoria Beckham had as well? 

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We all had one. 
Yeah, we did. 

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And then it's come back round 
now, she said. 

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Where was that? 
I'm like, well, I don't know. 

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I think I was just throwing bags
of clothes away and giving them,

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giving away. 
I had two stepdaughters as well.

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So yes, but then at least it was
getting a new life. 

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Yes, I've just, you know what, 
I've never really been that 

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attached to things and some I 
always enjoyed giving it away 

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and, you know, my sister or what
have you. 

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So, yeah. 
So there's been so all the Dior 

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saddlebags when they first came 
round in the 90s, my daughter's 

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now going, where are all your 
Dior saddlebags again? 

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I don't know. 
She's like, where are all your 

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Fendi baguettes? 
I'm like, I don't know, She's 

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like, mom. 
So I've now got to buy them all 

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again. 
No, you don't. 

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My daughter said I really want. 
So I'm like, I can't believe I'm

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actually buying this handbag for
the second time round. 

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You were with Damien Aspinall 
for many years. 

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In fact, he's the father of your
daughter Freya, Yes. 

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Did he have opinions on what you
wore? 

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Was he into clothes? 
No. 

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Do you know what I have to say, 
what I will say about Freya's 

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father? 
Actually, when we were together 

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and again in the 90s, he was 
always incredibly generous. 

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He'd love to take people 
shopping and stuff like that. 

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So we always had very fun 
shopping trips. 

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But no, he never. 
I don't. 

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I don't think he would have 
dared tell me what to wear. 

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He knows best of that. 
Loved you. 

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He knows. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, even now if I come in 
and he he, he'll make fun of 

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what I'm wearing and stuff, he'd
be like, oh, you know, yeehaw, 

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I'm wearing a hat or something. 
Or I mean, where are you going 

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in those trousers, you know? 
So we're as a family, we're 

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always making fun of each other.
I mean, you've seemed very at 

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ease in your skin. 
Do you think you use clothes to 

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message at all? 
Not so much. 

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I mean, to be honest, I'm very, 
very comfortable in any room in 

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wearing anything. 
Actually, I don't really feel 

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the need to conform. 
I would happily go to a black 

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tie and a pair of jeans and AT 
shirt and sit there quite 

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happily. 
Or to a meeting. 

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You know, I probably have 
conformed a bit in the past, but

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yeah, I think you can get your 
message across with clothes, you

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know, sometimes if you need to 
put those pair of heels on for a

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certain meeting when you need to
have some presents or something 

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that makes you feel a bit 
stronger or tougher. 

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When do you think you really 
discovered your style DNA? 

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Probably in my 30s. 
That's quite young. 

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Yeah, maybe late 30s. 
Yeah, it's amazing. 

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I'm surprised, given how many, 
how much I've experimented. 

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How many? 
Chapters. 

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How many chapters there's been 
in there that I didn't find it 

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sooner 'cause I did start quite 
young? 

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If someone were to describe your
style DNA in three words, what 

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would you want those 3 words to 
be? 

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Why do you want them to be 
truthful? 

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So I think they would be 
comfortable. 

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It would be timeless and I think
it would be quality. 

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I like to wear like to feel like
to feel nice things. 

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Are you conscious of your shape 
affecting the clothes? 

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That all your choice of the 
clothes. 

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Yes, I know. 
Yes, for sure. 

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Like, there are certain things 
that I just wouldn't wear for my

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shape, like cropped trousers and
cropped sleeves are not good 

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because I know you're 
emphasizing all my wrists and my

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ankles. 
And then people go, oh, she's so

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thin. 
I'm like, it's because you're 

450
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,920
showing off your ankles in your 
wrist. 

451
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,520
You know, as I'm aware of things
like that now after years of 

452
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,320
dressing. 
I was going to say, are you very

453
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,800
aware of criticism? 
I don't care about any 

454
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,040
criticism. 
I actually don't. 

455
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,720
I've never really cared about. 
I'm quite resilient, so I'm I'm,

456
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,960
I don't care at all. 
Kind of Geordie girl. 

457
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:32,240
Yeah, I I honestly do not give a
shit. 

458
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,280
What do you? 
What do you reach for when you 

459
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,640
want to feel empowered? 
I like a strong, I like a 

460
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,320
blazer. 
I like suits, so I love a nice 

461
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,040
oversized blazer. 
I like trousers or jeans 

462
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,520
sometimes, like a sturdy heel I 
don't wear. 

463
00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:55,000
You know, I think none of us are
really walking around in the 

464
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,080
heels that we used. 
To it's, I mean, it's 

465
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,920
extraordinary when you think, I 
sort of think back to and I. 

466
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,720
Think it's sturdy and strong? 
You know, we used to wear heels.

467
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,720
All day. 
It's crazy, right? 

468
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,640
Yeah, it is crazy. 
Yeah. 

469
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,720
Now I'm like, there's no way I'm
wearing those shoes. 

470
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,560
And I said it. 
I said at work the other day, I 

471
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,120
said they're not paying me 
enough, right? 

472
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,000
And I was like, I was made a 
joke about, I'm sorry, yeah, I'm

473
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,960
not wearing those shoes unless, 
you know, obviously if you go to

474
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,680
work and you're paid to wear 
whatever you meant to wear. 

475
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,160
But it came out wrong because I 
said I'm not wearing those heels

476
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,440
unless someone's paying me. 
And it just all sounded a bit 

477
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,640
wrong. 
Not paying you in that way. 

478
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,560
Who would you consider to be 
your style icon? 

479
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,000
It's so funny because even 
growing up as a young girl, I 

480
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,480
have pictures of women on my 
walls, not really men. 

481
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,760
Yeah, I had like Kylie and 
Madonna and I just loved women. 

482
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,760
That and Tina Turner and, you 
know, women. 

483
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,120
I remember, you know, going and 
watching Diana Ross and all 

484
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,800
these women that and The 
Supremes and I loved women that 

485
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,840
could move and perform. 
I was obsessed with women who 

486
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,280
would change and and use clothes
to do it. 

487
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,960
I just found it the most amazing
thing. 

488
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,360
And that's what I grew up 
watching, women performing and 

489
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,800
expressing themselves through 
clothes. 

490
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,000
And I was just kind of, yeah, 
entranced by it all. 

491
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,600
I just thought, wow, that's so 
beautiful. 

492
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,040
Would Taylor Swift be on your 
wall now? 

493
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,920
Yeah, I think she's kind of 
cool. 

494
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,720
I mean, it's not. 
She's kind of phenomenal, right?

495
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,680
Amazing. 
Completely. 

496
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,480
I've, I think all these young 
women are so impressive. 

497
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,040
They seem to have the shit 
together so much more. 

498
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:47,280
They're also focused, right? 
I mean. 

499
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:52,840
We were just all tearing around 
parties and having a good time. 

500
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,520
You know, all these young women,
they've got brands, they've got 

501
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,280
businesses they're making, you 
know, like there's their own 

502
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,480
CEOs. 
It's kind of really impressive. 

503
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,480
Yeah, yeah, it, it really is. 
It's just a very different era 

504
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,640
though, isn't it? 
Yeah. 

505
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,600
I mean, my daughter is so on it,
you know, she's, you know, she's

506
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,440
just so switched on and focused 
and, and driven and I'm like, Oh

507
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,480
my God, I really wasn't like 
that at 20. 

508
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,880
Is age a consideration in how 
you dress? 

509
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,680
You know what? 
I probably sometimes do think 

510
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,320
about it. 
And actually, we shouldn't. 

511
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,720
But do you think about it in a 
way that, oh, I am XI can't wear

512
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,560
that or I shouldn't be wearing 
that? 

513
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,200
Yeah, and that's wrong. 
Yeah, it's so wrong. 

514
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,520
But yeah, I probably would 
think, I know I probably 

515
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,760
wouldn't be walking around a 
pair of leather hot pants 

516
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,760
anymore because I think, but 
actually I probably could. 

517
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,640
But then again, Oh yeah, no, I 
saw I was totally could 

518
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,440
actually, but I just it's 
probably because it's not my 

519
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,480
style anymore. 
More than anything, it's just 

520
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:03,200
not my style. 
But if I wanted to, I certainly 

521
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,680
would. 
I'm yeah, I I don't really. 

522
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,680
And then the other thing is just
if I've been, you know, if I 

523
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,840
feel fit and strong, then I kind
of wear anything, yeah. 

524
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,920
We talk about hair, makeup and 
manicures. 

525
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,200
Oh God, I my nails are terrible.
Don't look at my nails. 

526
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,280
You're on stage, so it's sort of
in the so nice. 

527
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,160
Being on stage, so I was saying 
Stacey, she said go get my nails

528
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,200
done. 
I was like, oh, don't worry 

529
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,000
about it, nobody can see your 
nails from back there. 

530
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,640
But what's your what's your sort
of go to in terms of hair blow 

531
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,600
dries? 
Yeah, although do you know what 

532
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,920
I've even, I mean, I, I I did 
have a blow dry today for you 

533
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,360
it. 
Looks gorgeous, I know I've. 

534
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,840
Stopped blow drying my hair. 
I kind of don't even like the 

535
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,720
blow dried look anymore. 
I'm really just. 

536
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,640
I've everything. 
I'm just all about saving time, 

537
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,920
money and being simple. 
Yeah. 

538
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,280
I just also, I just dry it 
myself, right? 

539
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,400
Yeah. 
And sometimes I think. 

540
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,960
I can't believe that we've all 
been so alike. 

541
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,280
I know, but sometimes it can be 
quite aging to be too dumb. 

542
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,880
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. 
So I kind of prefer no makeup 

543
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,160
and no blow dry if I'm honest, 
in my jeans and AT shirt and 

544
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,760
that's me. 
That's your happy place? 

545
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,640
Yeah. 
Now you have done countless red 

546
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,080
carpets, probably more than you 
choose to remember. 

547
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,400
Have you ever used a stylist for
those? 

548
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,160
I have, yes. 
I've used many stylists over the

549
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,800
years, but actually not for a 
very long time because I kind of

550
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,800
know what I want, what I don't 
want, and I end up doing it 

551
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:43,400
anyway. 
And you know, as a celebrity, as

552
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,040
an influencer, you must get 
showered with a lot of clothes, 

553
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,200
a lot of gifts. 
How do you? 

554
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,960
Handle that. 
I don't really. 

555
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,480
I think it's all, I mean, it's 
always lovely. 

556
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,640
Obviously if people sent you 
gifts, I'm always very grateful.

557
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,440
But actually I don't really 
court it and I don't really 

558
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,280
accept too much because it's I 
don't need stuff, I don't need 

559
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,880
free stuff. 
It's not a lot I need. 

560
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,400
Yeah, if you could be dressed 
head to toe in one brand, what 

561
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,800
would that be? 
I mean, well, Laura, piano's 

562
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,360
always very comfortable, isn't 
it? 

563
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,640
She goes right for the top, 
probably. 

564
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,200
Wear that a lot. 
Or maybe just I'd be very happy 

565
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,920
in an organic cotton T-shirt. 
Would you say you've had a worst

566
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,320
fashion moment? 
Oh God, there's been many 

567
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,760
horrendous fashion moments. 
It's the one in particular that 

568
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,520
stands out. 
I do remember some Mimi yellow 

569
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,200
cowboy boots in the 90s that did
spark quite AI remember 

570
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,920
everybody got them after that. 
I think I was the 1st. 

571
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,320
And then I do remember at least 
three or four of the Spice Girls

572
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,880
getting them. 
Meg Matthews also got some. 

573
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,800
There was a Roberto Cavalli 
dress that was not a great look 

574
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,600
on me. 
There was also a head to toe 

575
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,320
Dior look that was a little bit 
fashion attack. 

576
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,760
OK, so run me through the 
Cavalli. 

577
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,160
I think it was a Cavalli dress 
and there was Cavalli boots. 

578
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,400
You know, the designers send you
stuff and it's just dressed head

579
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,000
to toe in the the look and you 
took quite a lot. 

580
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,600
It's quite a lot. 
And I guess, yeah, there's, I 

581
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,520
mean, when I look back at all 
those pictures in the 90s, so 

582
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,960
funny because I think they look 
awful. 

583
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,560
And my daughter's like, that was
so cool. 

584
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,400
Where is it? 
Where is it? 

585
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,640
And I'm like, oh, it's awful. 
She's like, no, that's so nice. 

586
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,160
Because I guess sweet. 
Yeah. 

587
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,600
How sweet. 
I think the 90s was a an 

588
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,400
interesting fashion decade. 
I loved the 90s. 

589
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,200
Fun. 
It was certainly fun. 

590
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,200
Yeah, let's talk about travel. 
I know you travelled quite a 

591
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,320
lot. 
I know I've ran into you various

592
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,040
airports, haven't I? 
I do remember seeing you in an 

593
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,600
airport once and I thought Oh my
God, she's so she, you. 

594
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,080
You literally just travel so 
well. 

595
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,880
Oh, you're, you're very sorry 
because I do a lot. 

596
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,600
Of it yeah, so you you could 
read I was like I was I remember

597
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,920
staying at you in the airport 
once God no travel look is so 

598
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,640
good. 
Thank you. 

599
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,520
But do you, and I'm, I'm sorry, 
I don't even remember what you 

600
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,720
were wearing, but do you pay 
particular attention to what 

601
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,040
your airport look would will be?
Depends who I'm travelling with.

602
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Oh. 
OK, OK, so for a lovely. 

603
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:37,560
Weekend away again, it's 
comfort, yeah, so and and layers

604
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,360
obviously on a plane. 
So it'll be like a cotton 

605
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,200
T-shirt and a cashmere jumper. 
A lot of Laura piano. 

606
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,960
No, actually. 
Good Packer, Bad Packer. 

607
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,240
Yeah, I'm pretty good. 
I I'm actually very good because

608
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,840
I actually hate having stuff. 
So I could literally live in two

609
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,480
dresses for a month. 
You're a light Packer. 

610
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,160
I'm a light Packer. 
My daughter on the other hand. 

611
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,400
I think there's a caveat. 
Here it is insane. 

612
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,159
I honestly do not know how they 
let her on the plane. 

613
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,400
And then she'll call me and 
complain about how much she's 

614
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,040
been charged for her baggage and
I'm like, well obviously you've 

615
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,800
got 5 gigantic suitcases. 
What's your favorite brand of 

616
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,000
luggage? 
I like Rimowa. 

617
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,280
Yeah, I like Rimowa. 
But again, I don't really care. 

618
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,440
I mean, it's a suitcase, right? 
Yeah. 

619
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,639
It's whatever is light, the 
lightest case possible, yeah. 

620
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,040
Do you think you've got a guilty
secret brand? 

621
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,600
I mean, I do spend quite a lot 
of money on underwear as well, 

622
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,440
which is a bit. 
I just like to feel nice. 

623
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,880
I like nice underwear. 
And where would that come from? 

624
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,239
I don't know, I just called it 
like selfish or something I 

625
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,639
don't love. 
My daughter's also got quite 

626
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,760
nice nightwear. 
I mean, I've never seen a little

627
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,160
girl get so dressed so well for 
bed. 

628
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,080
So funny. 
What's your High Street 

629
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,120
favorite? 
Sorry, I know it's not High 

630
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,360
Street brand, but my favorite 
brand right now. 

631
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:13,360
Can I just talk about Relux? 
Tell me so Relux is all pre 

632
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:19,120
loved and pre owned and I have 
got some some great stuff on 

633
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,400
there recently because I would 
like why would you spend all of 

634
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,400
that money as well on a handbag 
when you can buy it pre owned, 

635
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,080
right? 
And also it's not putting any 

636
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,880
any you're not manufacturing 
anything new, right, which just 

637
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,200
makes so much sense to me. 
So I'm I'm actually buying a lot

638
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,040
of pre love stuff on relux 
because I just think it's so 

639
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,360
great. 
I got like an amazing Celine 

640
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,640
jacket on there, but like next 
to nothing. 

641
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:48,280
It was. 
Fabulous. 

642
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,000
Are you loving the hunt as much 
as the actual trophy? 

643
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,200
I just think we are making a lot
of new stuff, and this planet 

644
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,400
really doesn't need it, does it?
We have a lot. 

645
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,800
We've got so much stuff. 
Why do we need to keep 

646
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,360
manufacturing, manufacturing, 
manufacturing. 

647
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,880
And I grew up actually before I 
could afford designer clothes, I

648
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,480
grew up, you know, buying in 
charity shops. 

649
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,760
I would always, you know, we, 
I'd find some great things and I

650
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,240
don't know why we can't share. 
Yeah, and it's a great way of 

651
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:26,000
honing your sense of style too, 
because somehow if you bought it

652
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,640
in a charity shop, it doesn't 
feel quite such a a crime if 

653
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,680
you've got it wrong, because 
actually it can go back. 

654
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,680
Again, exactly. 
And it doesn't feel so wasteful.

655
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,360
But when you're buying an 
expensive item, have you ever 

656
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:47,600
justified it at pounds per wear?
My daughter does that a lot. 

657
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,600
I've heard that a lot. 
We're talking about. 

658
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,480
We're talking about you. 
I've heard that a lot. 

659
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:57,920
So talking about sustainable 
fashion, your approach is? 

660
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,920
I think buy, buy less, which I 
definitely do. 

661
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,000
I honestly, I'm, I'm, I, yeah, 
I, I, I don't need anything 

662
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,760
really. 
Let's be honest, I'd rather 

663
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,840
travel. 
I'd rather have an experience. 

664
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:12,480
So I'm much more geared towards 
that. 

665
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,120
You know, we're just all a 
little bit more, we're a bit 

666
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,160
more savvy as well, right? 
We, you know, we all don't want 

667
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,640
to waste our money, right? 
It's not time for wasting money 

668
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,880
right now, and it's certainly 
not the time to be putting extra

669
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,960
impact on the environment. 
You are a good, practical 

670
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Geordie girl. 
And I love it. 

671
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,200
I like to be efficient so pre 
love for me relax. 

672
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,240
Is a win. 
Relax, check it out. 

673
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,920
Let's turn to some quick fire 
questions. 

674
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,400
What fashion advice would you 
give your 20 year old self? 

675
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:51,000
Save your money. 
Which fashion trend would you 

676
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,080
like to see make a comeback? 
Era would be 70s because I love 

677
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,120
that you know and that that does
come around a lot I mean it's 

678
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,440
never really out is it you'd? 
Be amazed how many people say 

679
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,360
the 70s. 
Yeah, it's a popular. 

680
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Ones and. 
What fashionable beauty trend 

681
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,640
would you consign to Room One O 
1? 

682
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,520
80s can go in there. 
Yep. 

683
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,680
We do. 
I wasn't a big fan of that. 

684
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,200
Your last impulse buy? 
I just bought a Gabriella Herst 

685
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,720
dress which I quite like. 
Views on tattoos. 

686
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,160
Not for me. 
Beauty treatment you couldn't 

687
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,160
give up. 
And they'll learn my eyebrows, 

688
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,320
my brow, girl. 
High end or High Street I'm. 

689
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,760
Happy with either. 
Bling or bear? 

690
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,960
Bear. 
Minimalism or maximalism? 

691
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,680
I'm more minim minimalist. 
Crocs cute or puke? 

692
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,280
Oh no, there's no puke nipper 
Crocs. 

693
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,720
Sneakers or stilettos? 
Sneakers. 

694
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,640
Skinnies or boyfriends or wide 
legs? 

695
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,440
Boyfriends. 
Body con or boho? 

696
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,200
Body Con. 
Sports Lux or Rock chick? 

697
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,920
Sports Lux. 
Red carpet or relax? 

698
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,760
Relax, trend or style? 
Style, color or monochrome? 

699
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,280
Color. 
Experimental or uniform? 

700
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,720
Uniform. 
Cashmere or cotton? 

701
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,560
OH. 
That's the hardest one in there,

702
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,840
Cashmere. 
Hoarder or editor? 

703
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,960
Editor, shapewear or sexy 
lingerie? 

704
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,720
Shapewear. 
Tights or stockings? 

705
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,720
As in high tops. 
Could be. 

706
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,720
Yeah, I like the ones that just 
stay up. 

707
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:42,880
Bikini or one piece? 
Oh, both again. 

708
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,840
Beanie or Berry? 
Beanie. 

709
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,320
And finally, at the end of the 
day, what do you or don't you 

710
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:56,040
wear in bed? 
I like nice cotton or something 

711
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:03,080
comfortable in bed. 
Donna, thank you for being such 

712
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,960
a great guest. 
It's been great fun to go on 

713
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,280
this style journey with you. 
Really appreciate your time. 

714
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,120
Thank you for having me on your 
show. 

715
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,800
I really love it. 
You're so good at it. 

716
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:13,480
Thank. 
You. 

717
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,960
Well, I'm gonna come and see 
your show. 

718
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,400
Oh. 
Yes, you must. 

719
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,000
Definitely. 
You must definitely. 

720
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,960
It's fun. 
Great. 

721
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,200
Thank you. 
Thank you.