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Today I'm going on a sartorial 
journey with the English 

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singer-songwriter and TV 
personality Wes Nelson. 

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Hello and welcome, Wes. 
Hello. 

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Hello. 
How are you? 

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I'm really good. 
How are you? 

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I'm well, thanks for having me. 
Good. 

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It's a It's great to have you 
here because I know you've been 

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a busy boy. 
Very busy. 

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Yeah, collaborating with Craig. 
David, can we just talk about 

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that for a moment? 
We can happily talk about. 

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I I cannot get that song off my 
mind. 

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I mean, I went to sleep with it 
in my mind. 

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It's like magic. 
I love it. 

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Yeah. 
So I've just released a track 

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with Craig David, which is 
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I think is like a mixed raced 
artist in the UK. 

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For me growing up looking for 
idols in the music scene, 

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there's not many. 
There's not many at all. 

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They're in that sort of the 
singing area, not rapping or 

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whatever. 
So Craig, growing up for me from

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the UK, was that guy. 
So were you that high with a 

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microphone? 
Yeah. 

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Were you singing his songs? 
Yeah, I've got pictures of it. 

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I saw one picture which I just 
love. 

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I've got a couple pictures of of
me when I was little, my my mum 

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and dad, They got me this 
karaoke that didn't even work. 

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I think for their benefit it 
didn't, it didn't work at the 

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time. 
Well, they just. 

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Turned the volume. 
Down exactly. 

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And, and I used to use that. 
And I'll be, I'll be singing 

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Craig's songs or I'll be singing
different bits of R&B and stuff 

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like that. 
So from an early age, it's been 

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a big, a big part of my life. 
I think. 

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And so how did that collab come 
about? 

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So it's a bit of a silly story 
really. 

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I was in Ibiza supporting Craig 
and. 

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That's quite a line in itself, 
can I just say? 

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Yeah, so I was he, he'd asked us
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him and I went out and did the 
show. 

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He watched it, really enjoyed 
it. 

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And we spoke after always 
getting chatting about being in 

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the studio and what we've got 
going on. 

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And he said, Oh well, should we,
we, we need to jump in. 

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And we were like, yeah, let's 
let's get a song going. 

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And I was like, I've actually 
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Craig. 
Had you no God? 

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I fell for that, didn't I? 
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was get my foot in the door 
early If I said I'll let's let's

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write something about. 
So I said I've got the idea and 

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he's like cool, let's do 
Tuesday. 

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I was like it's Sunday. 
So on the way homes right in 

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away wrote most wrote quite a 
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Got in with Craig on Tuesday. 
We finished it all off together,

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wrote some nice pieces. 
He Craigified it. 

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We made it into a bit more 
garage because it wasn't so 

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garage before. 
And then Abracadabra the chi. 

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Amazing and and went completely 
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Yeah, we, we went #1 and big Top
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So we was that was ecstatic, 
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Brilliant. 
Yeah, brilliant. 

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Clean Bandit. 
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highest streaming song I think 
we've we've ever done. 

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Grammy winners like it is. 
It is bonkers when you think 

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about it. 
I'm just. 

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It's exciting. 
I know I'm just a I'm just a 

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bloke from Stoke. 
I'll always just be a bloke from

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Stoke. 
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I love that a bloke from. 
Stoke. 

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Just meet the bloke. 
From Stoke. 

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Exactly, exactly. 
Whereas it does it the bloke 

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from Stoke. 
I feel like it's my my new 

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slogan. 
You. 

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Could have told me that when I 
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The bloke from Stoke, yeah. 
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and Topic Drive, that's one of 
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think. 
Yeah, that was a a quick one as 

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well. 
They actually asked me to get in

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the studio the the next day they
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song, do you want to work on it?
I was like, for sure. 

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So like, can you come tomorrow? 
I was like, yes, yes I can. 

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Are you sort of permanently in 
creative mode? 

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Yeah, I think you you can never 
not be creative. 

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I think you're creative yourself
like you always that you can be 

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inspired by something here or 
you can see something and it 

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triggers 1000 thoughts. 
So I guess you that you can't 

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really turn a switch off on 
that. 

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And I think especially when I'm 
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actually leaving my studio 
because I I become such a 

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hermit, I stay in my studio and 
I don't move. 

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But that's, that's very true of 
a lot of creatives. 

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You know once you're in the zone
you you don't actually want any 

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distractions. 
No, not at all. 

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So. 
But when I do get out, I have to

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find a balance. 
Now I just get out and about, 

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get inspired and and come back 
in and usually make something a 

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bit better. 
And so tell me about the Clean 

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Bandit at at Wembley. 
Oh yeah. 

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So yeah, I think. 
Moment, yeah. 

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So it was quite, it was quite 
bad actually. 

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So it was my first ever big 
show. 

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How many people? 
I think 20,000 what I think 

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20,000 and yeah, it there's any,
is this called any monitors? 

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Right. 
So that's playing your track, 

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it's playing your voice back to 
yourself and it stops all the 

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echo in the in the the crowd. 
So say if you're the crowd shout

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in or the rooms really big. 
If I project my voice, it'll 

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take a couple seconds for that 
to come back. 

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So so if you're singing on stage
and your in ears go out or you 

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haven't got wedges at the front 
which give you playback, you 

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will be singing off time. 
I'm feeling stressed already. 

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And I got on stage and it's 
coming up to a massive high note

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that I have in the second-half 
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And then I hear a bump like a 
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And I turn around to the guys. 
And luckily it was like sort of 

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a bit of instrumental, like 1510
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I turned to the guys. 
They were all like fiddling with

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their ears. 
They were like, I don't know, I 

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don't know what had happened. 
Is the the antenna or something 

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that services all of our 
earpieces blew finished and the 

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backup finished so we couldn't 
hear anything, just the music 

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coming out from the bouncing off
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back? 
Which is too late. 

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Then, which is too late. 
So what I did do is looked at 

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the front row and there's people
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So we started doing this and I 
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Wow. 
So I I was kept on going like 

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this and then Grace and they all
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We would go like this and we 
finished the song, but it was 

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luckily it was only one song 
that I had to do for that. 

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But that was it was the scariest
moment of my. 

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Life super stressful. 
Any other new music coming out? 

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Yes. 
So we're actually working on my 

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my next single right now we're 
just finalising the feature. 

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I can't say who the feature is 
yet, but. 

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So some you'll collaborate. 
It's a collab again. 

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Yeah, amazing. 
Which is for I'd love collabing 

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on music. 
And I think, don't get me wrong,

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I love writing my by myself and 
this that any other book to 

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collab with other people and get
their sort of creative point of 

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view and then make a whole 
different song is is amazing. 

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And the people that we're going 
to be doing this with now, I've 

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loved them for ages. 
So it's really cool to it's like

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the Craig sort of thing. 
Yeah, different, a kind of 

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different world to me. 
But it's it's exciting. 

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It's exciting. 
Wow, who would be your dream 

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fashion collaboration? 
Probably what I'm wearing is he?

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Interesting. 
Yeah, I just think, well, I'm 

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now going into. 
It's actually funny that this 

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has come round now. 
I feel like I'm going into my 

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new style era. 
Oh, right. 

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OK, well, we're going to get on 
to that. 

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I. 
Feel like I am. 

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In a second. 
So. 

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So you're wearing Izzy today? 
Izzy Miyaki, Yeah. 

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And do you reach for Izzy a lot?
I do I just like I'm I feel like

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I'm a bit plain sometimes. 
Well, I'm not and I am. 

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It's weird. 
I I can be wearing the most 

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bright patterned wild 
combination you'd ever did see. 

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And then the next day I'll just 
be in plain plain and I'll just 

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go through these phases. 
It I think it depends on how I'm

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feeling in the day. 
It's not really, I wouldn't say,

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oh, this is my style and this is
what I wear and I build, build 

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everything around it. 
It's like I wake up in the 

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morning. 
I'm a very spontaneous guy. 

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So you're a mood dresser? 
Yeah, so I'm like, I fancy that 

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today if I want to wear a bright
pink hat with some Big Blue 

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boots, I'll wear the Big Blue 
boots and a pink hat. 

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But you grew up in 
Staffordshire? 

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I did, yeah. 
We were exposed to fashion from 

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a young age. 
Where, you know, did you have a 

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dapper dad? 
Oh, my dad loves my dad. 

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Loved it actually. 
My dad, my dad always used to 

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wear this is so straight. 
He used to wear Paul Smith every

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every, every single day. 
Super sheet. 

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He just loved Paul Smith like he
used to see the What did he? 

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Do to to be wearing Paul. 
Smith So my dad was. 

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So he was wearing that to work. 
No, he'd wear a suit to work, 

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but any opportunity to wear Paul
Smith, he'd wear Paul Smith. 

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He was a mechanical engineer, so
he worked at Bentley for years. 

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Oh wow, so hence Staffordshire. 
Yeah, literally in Crewe. 

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Yeah. 
Exactly. 

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I wanted to follow his footsteps
at first. 

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Well, I was going to say I did 
read somewhere that you were a 

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nuclear systems design engineer.
Yeah. 

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Is that true? 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So I was, yeah, I was, I was 
doing uni at the same time, so 

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it was part on, part off. 
But four days of four days of 

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the week, I'd be I'd be working,
yeah. 

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So I wanted to do engineering. 
I wanted to do mechanical 

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engineering with father like 
Bentley or whatever Jag, Land 

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Rover's really close. 
It's quite there's quite a lot 

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of companies. 
Yes, there are in the Midlands 

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there. 
But then that sounds way cool, 

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isn't it? 
And then? 

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What were you wearing back then 
in your nuclear systems design 

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engineer days? 
It was it was a suit. 

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It was a suit every day. 
But what was your earliest 

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sartorial memory? 
When you when did you first? 

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I loved wearing a suit to work 
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Did you? 
I did. 

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Would you say that was when you 
first realized the power of 

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clothes? 
'Cause I was like 1819 walking 

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around town and whatever, 
walking back into to the shops 

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and stuff with the suit on or 
coming finishing work and some 

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of my friends would still be 
like and the trackies from uni 

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and whatever and they're like, 
fair enough. 

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That's a nice suit and you just 
feel like it carries. 

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It's you, you carry yourself 
different. 

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You're like, you stand up a 
little bit taller, your chest's 

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out a little bit further. 
The. 

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The power of good tailoring, 
yeah, is is enormous. 

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My dad made sure that it was, 
well, Jesus, like you're getting

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it tailored. 
I was like, I'm not paying for 

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it. 
You. 

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You've got an older brother, 
Curtis, who's a. 

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Footballer. 
Yes, he is. 

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When? 
You're close as kids. 

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Very, very, very, very close. 
I think I'd say he's one of my, 

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I think he's my best pal, like 
in the in the world, My, my, my 

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brother. 
And he's my biggest inspiration 

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as well. 
Oh, that's lovely. 

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So he's actually, he's actually 
had the best year. 

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He's like, let me just give him.
Yeah, come on. 

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He's like he's he's just had a 
little and and he's one player's

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player. 
He's won a whole bunch of 

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different players awards. 
He's just got his first ever 

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promotion to the championship 
and he's had a great season. 

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He played, he's the only player,
outfield player to play every 

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second of every game this year. 
The reason I'm so inspired by 

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him is because the amount of 
work people don't realize that 

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footballers have to do behind 
the scenes. 

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And I'll let him know. 
It looks great from the surface,

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especially Prem, but when you're
in them lower leagues and it's 

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championship, there's so much. 
What? 

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He never drinks. 
He doesn't go out. 

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He's he's Christmas Day is on 
his own. 

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He's left the house at 16. 
Yeah, so he's my biggest 

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inspiration. 
But it's full on 24/7 focus. 

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You have to be, yeah, because 
there's another 10 people that 

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want your place as well. 
Yeah. 

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Did you have a a sort of 
opinions on each other's style 

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growing? 
Up. 

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Yeah, I was always, well, 
better, way better dressed. 

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And you're not compassionate at 
all? 

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Not. 
At all now he'd tell you that. 

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He'd tell you, he's asked me for
some tips. 

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He's like, oh, would you think 
of this? 

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I'm like, yeah, it's all right 
mate, it's all right. 

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You should maybe that and he'd 
be like, all right, fair enough.

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There's some things that I'd 
wear that he would not wear. 

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So were you the style leader? 
Yeah. 

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I mean, I'm more daring with I 
wear. 

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He's a lot less daring with what
you'd wear. 

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Yeah. 
Now you shot to fame also when 

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you appeared on the 4th series 
of Love Island. 

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How did that opportunity come 
about? 

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I was 19 and I just got a 
message on Instagram from 

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actually a manager and he said, 
have you ever thought about 

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going on Love Island? 
I was like, not really geese. 

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No, not, not really just got my 
job and I'm feeling like great. 

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He's like, would you would you 
ever fancy it? 

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And I was just like, well, you 
know what, I've just had my 

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week, my my work holidays have 
just refreshed. 

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Let's give it a whirl. 
So I went down, had a couple a 

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couple into five or six 
interviews and then they said, 

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do you fancy flying out in 
somewhere like you've got the 

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you've got the gig. 
I was like, give it well, told 

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work. 
That was a funny conversation, 

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just like. 
So what you go from design 

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engineer to? 
Love Island, it was so random. 

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I was just like, I might be, I 
might be missing for a couple of

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weeks on telly, but you've got 
to keep it private, blah, blah, 

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blah. 
So fair enough, cool. 

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But I think it was a weird 
comment. 

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I was doing that and I was doing
Mai Tai kickboxing and stuff 

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like that. 
So I think there was watching 

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from the outside thinking who's 
this guy who does a nuclear 

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engineering and kickboxing and 
football and. 

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And actually could be on Love 
Island. 

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So but yeah, that's that's how 
that happened. 

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Very weird. 
How did you prepare and listen, 

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I know you don't wear a lot on 
Love Island. 

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Like there's a lot of board 
shorts there's. 

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Not much. 
How did you decide what you were

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going to take to wear on Love 
Island? 

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So at the time I'm from Stoke, 
there's not a lot of sun. 

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I'm from Cheshire, there's not a
lot of sun. 

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And Stoke on Trent, there's 
really not a lot of sun. 

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So everything I had pretty much 
at the time, I can remember 

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running around trying to find 
just T-shirts and you can't wear

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logos, so you have to buy plain.
T-shirts. 

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So I was like all of the things 
that I because at that point I 

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was starting to actually get a 
bit more money. 

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So I was buying some designer 
stuff. 

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I was like, yeah, come on, I'm 
going to take all of this, open 

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my suitcase and were like, no, 
no, no. 

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I was like, Oh my God, I have 
nothing left. 

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And then they have their own 
sponsors. 

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So you sort of everyone just 
scrambles to try and find the 

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best bits. 
From do do they literally just 

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open? 
Up big bag in and just like let 

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everyone run out of it, like 
hyenas and Ricketts and all 

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that. 
It's bad, It's bad. 

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Oh, but coming back to 
performing, what do you most 

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enjoy wearing to perform in? 
Do you have a sort of 

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performance uniform, as it were?
Yes. 

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But I think it's going to, it's 
going to change now. 

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So what was it? 
So so when I first started, I'm 

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going to have to give a bit back
back in. 

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So when I first started doing 
music, the the debut singer was 

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called Cena Buddy and it was 
with the rapper called Hardy 

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Caprio. 
And then after that it was nice 

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to meet you with young Bane, 
who's another rapper. 

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So I was around a lot of rappers
and they all wear chains and 

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they all have I. 
Was going to say there's a lot 

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of. 
Like the oil chains and bust 

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down massive watches and this 
and the other and I was just 

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like, I can't be in the music 
video and not have some of this 

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right. 
So foolishly went out and bought

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the diamond watch. 
Bought this, bought that, bought

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quite a bunch of stuff and like.
What, Like what? 

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Watch. 
So it was an an automobile pig, 

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a just a. 
Sort of understated little 

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diamond watch. 
Bright blue strap with diamonds,

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yellow, gold. 
It just, it was so silly. 

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It was so silly, but it looked 
great on camera. 

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I can't like. 
So some of these things I do 

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regret in hindsight. 
I'm like, oh stupid daft, but I 

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feel like I had to go through 
that to that phase. 

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So you were dressing the part? 
I was dressing. 

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I was dressing a bit like what 
you'd call a rapper, like I was 

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dressing like the stereotypical 
rap. 

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So there'll be huge logos like 
big LV and a big this and big 

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that. 
And that was that was the the 

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start thing I wore the Nego Nego
LV collab is like double denim 

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LV print all over it. 
That was my first music video. 

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And then I think second pretty 
much the exact same. 

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I think a lot of my stage 
outfits at the time sort of 

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reflected that as well. 
So I'd be wearing a lot of big 

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designers with huge brands, if 
there any. 

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Other and were you being gifted 
any of that? 

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Hell no, It was ridiculous. 
OK, so quite a. 

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My dad a. 
Big costume budget. 

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Yeah. 
So what would happen was you? 

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Spent all the proteins. 
I spent more on clothes than I'd

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even like to disclose. 
It's it that was a there was a 

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two year period where it was 
silly, like it was ridiculous. 

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My dad, he was just like, you 
need to stop doing. 

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This Now, were you doing that 
because you felt you needed to 

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look the part, or were you doing
it because you could and you 

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were just loving? 
I think I was a bit young. 

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I was just young and just, I was
just like, I think it was when 

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they they prepare a rail or 
something like that. 

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And it would be, it would be 
that I'd say I would like this, 

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I like this and they'd prepare a
rail for the shoot or whatever. 

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And then I'd really like it all.
And they'd be like, can I have 

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it all? 
And they're like, yes, you can. 

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Here's the invoice. 
And then you. 

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Yeah. 
And then I pay it. 

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But, and then I have a personal 
shopper at a time that just send

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things out. 
And if I didn't like it, then I 

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just send it back. 
Ask me how many I sent back. 

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Zero. 
So that had to stop because it's

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just, don't get me wrong, it's 
cool. 

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And it looked great on the 
videos and it sort of fit the 

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music that I was doing then. 
But my music's changing a bit 

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now. 
I'm moving way more pop and it's

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a bit more true to myself, to be
honest, because I don't know why

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people Sometimes I think on the 
first single I was the bit of 

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melodic rap, but other than 
that, every single song I've 

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ever done has been singing. 
Yeah, but then people still 

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describe me as a rapper, which 
is. 

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It's funny how. 
You is is bonkers. 

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Early days you can get labeled, 
you know in the fashion is true,

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it's the same and it's really 
hard evolving out. 

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Literally. 
But yeah, I think just more 

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playing stuff. 
I think on my last tour it was 

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bacon hot at all times on stage 
and I really move around on 

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stage and especially with the 
set was doing then was jumping 

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around. 
So it would start in these huge 

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parachute sort of trousers, big 
baggy Balenciaga trousers and 

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then I'd have a vest on and then
some sort of overshirt. 

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And then after song two I'm 
absolutely bacon. 

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So that'd come off and it'd be 
the vest and the massive 

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cargoes. 
It was like it looked like huge 

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Dino stumpers and it's it's cool
though. 

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I really liked it. 
It was cool. 

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But this time round I think I'm 
moving a little less. 

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We can have a band and stuff on 
stage for my tour so I can dress

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a little. 
Are you able to influence what 

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the band wears? 
Yeah, to degree, but I want them

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to express themselves like I 
think like my, my friend Nate 

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notes, guitarist, pianist, all 
in gentle magician. 

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He's he loves purple. 
He loves purple, so I'm never 

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going to go to Nate. 
Just wear black. 

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Yeah. 
It's ridiculous. 

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I think they're All Stars in 
their own. 

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Everyone on the stage is a star 
in their own right, and he's an 

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absolute superstar. 
So Nate wants to wear all 

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purple. 
Yeah, Nate notes. 

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You can wear purple. 
And you're going to be wearing. 

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What do you think? 
I'm I'm actually doing I'm I'm 

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doing a meeting next week on 
styling. 

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So is that with a stylist? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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And so is this a stylist you've 
worked with before? 

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It's not. 
I've known her work for a 

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minute. 
I know a couple of people that 

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have worked with her. 
And you have you briefed her as 

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to where your heads at at the 
moment? 

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Yeah, I have a little more 
classy just. 

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I was going to say, do you mind 
me asking what your brief to her

429
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was? 
Do you know do you know the 

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artist called Givian? 
Yeah. 

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You know when he's on stage and 
he has his nice, like, crop 

432
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sleeve shirt? 
Yeah, tucked in, tucked into his

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trousers and the the fold over 
sort of waistband. 

434
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Yeah, that kind of sleek with 
the little pleats at the top 

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sometimes maybe. 
Wow, that is a big move on from 

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the. 
I like, I really like dressing 

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like that though. 
So if I go out for a meal with 

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the missus or whatever, that's 
that's kind of what I'm wearing.

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It's only really on stage or 
this or in certain places, in 

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certain environments that I'll 
wear. 

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And so and so the favorite 
brands for that look would be. 

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Dior is the last place. 
Nearly all my suits and stuff is

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from Dior Prada. 
Beautifully. 

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Tailored, they're just, they're 
just, they just fit me well. 

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I think I've got a weird shaped 
legs so they always fit. 

446
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Have you ever had a suit made 
for you on Savile Row? 

447
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I don't know. 
I think I've always just bought 

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them off. 
I'll just get them from my 

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shopper, my personal shopper, 
and then just get them tailored.

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And personal shopper is within a
big store. 

451
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,120
Yeah, she's actually just left. 
She's actually she's been there 

452
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,960
for 25 years in Selfridges. 
I was, I knew you were going to 

453
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,360
say. 
Selfridges, do you know Debbie? 

454
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,200
I've heard of her. 
Yeah, so. 

455
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,160
But can she continue with you? 
Yeah, I spoke to her today. 

456
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,200
I'm actually going. 
I'm going to Selfridges after 

457
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,600
you. 
I'm not. 

458
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,600
So there's Annie who's works in 
there now. 

459
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,320
She's going to sort me out. 
She's got a room set up for me, 

460
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,720
actually, after this. 
Brilliant. 

461
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,200
Which is cool. 
Oh my God, can we just take the?

462
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,600
Camera, we can all go. 
I was actually going to go 

463
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,080
before, but I didn't have a 
chance. 

464
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,800
I didn't have a chance because I
was getting my hair done, but. 

465
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,320
Can we just talk about the hair 
for a moment? 

466
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,800
That's new as well. 
So I've always had just straight

467
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,680
1 1/2 on top and like skin faded
up. 

468
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,760
Yeah. 
Now I've got like what sits in 

469
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,320
my hair, but I'm just growing it
out. 

470
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,440
So basically the way I do it is 
if I, if I comb it out, it's 

471
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,000
like a microphone. 
Yeah. 

472
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,360
And then I have a sponge. 
It's got little holes in it. 

473
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,840
Yeah. 
And you just go like this. 

474
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:43,160
Oh wow. 
And then that. 

475
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,360
Yeah, so it just. 
It sort of. 

476
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,720
Twizzles. 
Yeah, it twizzles them. 

477
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,280
But then this. 
Yeah. 

478
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,480
No, he's, he's just shaped it up
today. 

479
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,280
So he's. 
So how often do you have to have

480
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,440
that RE? 
I can do it myself, but when he 

481
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,920
does it, it's like God, you 
wouldn't want to. 

482
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,840
Have a hangover, would you? 
Pythagoras theorem. 

483
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,280
I think he did. 
It's just like, Are you sure you

484
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,640
got this? 
But no, he's he's, he's really 

485
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:07,640
good. 
His name's Eli. 

486
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,840
He's a great Barber. 
And are you into your grooming 

487
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:17,680
your men's facial products? 
My girlfriend's trying to trying

488
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,200
to help me out with this because
I just splash water on my face 

489
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,000
and just a bit of soap in the 
shower. 

490
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,840
And what's she been? 
Well. 

491
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,240
Handing you away. 
Is it called Laura Mess? 

492
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,960
Yeah. 
Oh my goodness, is that right? 

493
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,560
Yeah, pot, pink pot of 
moisturizer, Yeah. 

494
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,080
Use it, you know judiciously. 
I know. 

495
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,440
She's been very generous. 
Like I just loo pin. 

496
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,560
I call it petty Faloo because it
just smells great. 

497
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,800
But no, she so she's yeah, she's
told me to get that. 

498
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,360
I've got that. 
It's in there. 

499
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,760
I am listening. 
I am listening. 

500
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,680
But I think my skin's usually 
been all right. 

501
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,880
Like most, most of the time I 
try and stay on top. 

502
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,040
My beard's not, I've not got a 
great beard. 

503
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,720
So it's I don't have to stay on 
top of that. 

504
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,200
The wind blows. 
It will shave it itself. 

505
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,720
So it's, it's it's. 
That's fine. 

506
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,480
Talk to me about your tats for a
minute. 

507
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,640
Right, so. 
When did you first start? 

508
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,800
How old were you I? 
Think it was two year and a half

509
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,040
two years ago. 
Oh so really recently. 

510
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,440
Yeah, two, I think about two 
years ago. 

511
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,360
Very first one. 
I crossed my fingers. 

512
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,240
When was your first one? 
I think yeah. 

513
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,360
So yeah, two years ago I got my 
parents birth dates across and 

514
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:35,280
my brother's my faith. 
The three weapons that I'd 

515
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,080
e-mail out, which is Alfred, 
Curtis, Pauline, which is my 

516
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,400
mum, dad and brother, they all 
have a lot of meaning in the 

517
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,160
first independent single, blah 
blah blah. 

518
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,480
Can you tell me about the 
skeleton? 

519
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,760
This one, oh, until I die. 
He's got a little microphone in 

520
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,880
his hand. 
Oh, OK, yeah, right. 

521
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,640
And then what does that say 
Island? 

522
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,240
I start on everything I say and 
then this is. 

523
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,200
I can't tell you about this one 
because it's about the misses, 

524
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,840
right? 
It's yeah, it's where I'm at, 

525
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,440
the missus, but it's the 
whatever. 

526
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,880
But I'm trying to keep the 
missus thing. 

527
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,840
Hush. 
OK, We. 

528
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,280
Missus isn't public knowledge. 
It's she, they don't know who 

529
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,640
she is, but right. 
Yeah, but that's I actually got 

530
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,920
my first playful one the other 
day and it's a sunny D sunny D 

531
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,080
orange bottle. 
And the reason being is because 

532
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:27,160
my when I used to go to my 
granddad's house on my father's 

533
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,080
side, he used to always have 
sunny D in the fridge and I 

534
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,520
obviously it was just full of 
rubbish so I was never allowed 

535
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,720
at home. 
So now. 

536
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,200
You've got it tattooed on to. 
You so I was like, what's the 

537
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,600
most, what's the playful way of 
remembering my granddad And sort

538
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,760
of she's put in a date. 
So I was just like sunny D As 

539
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,800
soon as I get to my grandad's I 
run to the fridge and like get 

540
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,840
the sunny D. 
Oh that's so just lovely, the 

541
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,960
sunny D. 
So you're on a journey with the 

542
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,880
Tats? 
Yes. 

543
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,000
So it's not like I don't want to
just fill spots. 

544
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,320
I want everything. 
Absolutely. 

545
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,880
Everything has a lot of 
something that I can't really 

546
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,080
say, but yeah. 
So the miss is a serious thing. 

547
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,360
Yeah, it is. 
I wouldn't be in it if it wasn't

548
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:07,480
nothing. 
Wedding bells. 

549
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,160
Not yet. 
But if you were gonna get 

550
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,920
married this year, what would 
you want to wear to your 

551
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,920
wedding? 
I'm a classic man. 

552
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,040
I think with weddings. 
I don't actually want a big 

553
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,320
wedding. 
But what would you want to wear?

554
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Black black suit, straight tux. 
I think it would be quite A and.

555
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,520
Who would cut that? 
I don't know, but you could you 

556
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,560
could recommend me someone if 
you. 

557
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,920
Come on, you're wearing Dior on 
Prada already. 

558
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,760
Prada my my favorite suit is 
Prada the the Prada one that I 

559
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,000
have. 
It has like sort of this has a a

560
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,600
strap sort of buckle that goes 
across the front. 

561
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,960
Did you know the one? 
They, I mean they cut beautiful 

562
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,920
suits. 
But it's that is my favorite, 

563
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,520
favorite, favorite suit. 
Yeah. 

564
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,920
It just fits so well. 
When I went to, I took the Mr. 

565
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,280
Mrs. to Paris and wore it to the
Moulin Rouge. 

566
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,800
And it was. 
It just felt felt really good in

567
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,480
it. 
It felt good. 

568
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,040
It felt really good. 
I don't want to take it off. 

569
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,160
I'll be real. 
It's one of them suit jackets. 

570
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,720
As well as that, even when 
you're inside, I was like, I 

571
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,240
don't really want to take this 
off, so I'm just going to. 

572
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,440
Isn't that great? 
Yeah, it is. 

573
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,400
It is. 
It does. 

574
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,560
Fundamentally, who do you think 
you dress for? 

575
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,800
Yourself. 
Your missus? 

576
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,680
Your audience. 
Well, that's a great question 

577
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,800
because I think that's changed a
bit more and I think it links to

578
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,160
what I was saying earlier before
it was the audience. 

579
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,360
Yeah, straight away I think 
that's just going into a bit of 

580
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:33,360
money and then thinking I need 
to be someone for them or I was 

581
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:36,240
looking at everyone else and 
comparing and then saying I need

582
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,320
to dress like that. 
That's not really my style then,

583
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,640
is it? 
It's just, it's just a, it's 

584
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,800
just a shelf, isn't it? 
Everyone's got, everyone can get

585
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,400
that style. 
It's not like it's a style. 

586
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:53,200
So I think now I'm dressing for 
me a lot more and especially 

587
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,440
with this meeting now that we're
about to do, I've put quite a 

588
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,160
bit of thought into what I want.
And I think that's really where 

589
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,560
it's going to be at the turning 
point in my head. 

590
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,760
It's the turning point already, 
but the the wardrobe's going to 

591
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,120
be taken out and I'm just going 
to put a whole new thing in and.

592
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,160
What will you do with that lot 
that's been? 

593
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,840
See what the old man wants, see 
what the brother wants, and the 

594
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,800
rest of it can can go somewhere.
And you do. 

595
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,960
You don't archive anything like 
what you. 

596
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,200
Wore on stage there there. 
So there's a couple there's like

597
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,640
the the Nego LV stuff that's 
that stays that's has to stay. 

598
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,720
There's this there's these 
massive baggy sort of trousers 

599
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,960
and braces that I wore for the 
Nice to Meet You music video, 

600
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,840
whereas Edward Scissorhands all 
of them things. 

601
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,080
I wore some pineapple trousers 
things with the Clean Bandit. 

602
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,640
You must archive though, yeah. 
All of them are in a box. 

603
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,840
Yeah. 
So I don't really. 

604
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,040
I don't really wear them. 
Yeah, sometimes I might wear 

605
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,040
them, but they're staying 
forever. 

606
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,760
They will stay forever. 
Would you say you've got a style

607
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,240
icon? 
At one I think it changes for 

608
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,200
me. 
Yeah, it sounds like it. 

609
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,880
Yeah, because I, I, I think at 
one point I love the way that 

610
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,440
Chris Brown dress. 
I really loved it and now I 

611
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,760
really like the way give you on 
dresses and I think it looks 

612
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,760
really, really cool but I don't 
want to. 

613
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,800
I don't want to copy a style 
though. 

614
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,880
No, you want. 
To. 

615
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,280
I really want to. 
I want to have my own sort of 

616
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,440
style without looking 
ridiculous. 

617
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,360
If someone were to describe him,
the misses were to describe your

618
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,960
style in three words. 
How would what 3 words were? 

619
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,400
Those when I'm usually with the 
misses we don't because we can't

620
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,080
low key with where we go and 
whatever if. 

621
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,240
Is this because it's a deep 
secret? 

622
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,640
Yeah, I just don't want to. 
I don't want to have a public 

623
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,520
relationship. 
Yeah, I've done it. 

624
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,720
Yeah, Doesn't work for me. 
I've clearly done it. 

625
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,360
Yeah, done a couple and look 
where they ended. 

626
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,560
So like, and she's an absolute 
star. 

627
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,280
So I just want to keep this as 
private as can be. 

628
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080
And don't get me wrong, there 
was going to be times when we're

629
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,440
seeing out about or whatever, 
but that's fine. 

630
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,280
But I'm not going to go out of 
my way to make that. 

631
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:04,440
No, but she would probably say 
comfortable for sure because 

632
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,560
comfort's key for me at the 
moment, especially when we're if

633
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,080
we're going like a park walk or 
we're going here or I'm in the 

634
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,600
house, I'll be in some either 
some jogger shorts or the 

635
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,280
baggiest joggers. 
She calls them the Jesus joggers

636
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,960
because they are so big brown 
baggy things. 

637
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,920
But they're the comfiest things.
Yeah, you've ever seen. 

638
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,640
I'll have my Berkeys on 
underneath which. 

639
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,480
Berkeys. 
So I've got the mocker straps 

640
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,040
and then the grey ones and the 
black ones. 

641
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,680
But I, I'm, I love Berkeys and 
I've got the closed toes as 

642
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,000
well. 
Yeah. 

643
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,200
But these are. 
Cozy. 

644
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,520
Yeah, they're the coziest 
things. 

645
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,560
I don't if if this wasn't in a 
nice in a nice like a podcast or

646
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,040
whatever and was just going to 
the studio, I would be in my 

647
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,800
burkies right now, right, 
Because that is my issue. 

648
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,160
So we've got comfortable. 
Comfortable, bright. 

649
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,120
I'd say actually a lot. 
If you look in my wardrobe, at 

650
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,720
first it used to be monochrome. 
Now you look at it and it is 

651
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,120
like a rainbow. 
Yeah. 

652
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,880
Ran a bit random. 
Does random make sense? 

653
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,520
There's a better word for 
random. 

654
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,640
Eclectic. 
Yes, eclectic, because the way 

655
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,440
that I combine some things is 
red card. 

656
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,440
I think you're struggling with 
this because you're evolving 

657
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,520
your style as we speak. 
Yeah, exactly. 

658
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,240
That's what I mean. 
I don't like, I could have 

659
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,120
described it before. 
It's so easy, like monochrome 

660
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,880
ostentatious labels or whatever.
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

661
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,920
But now I actually don't really 
if because I've not got that 

662
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,160
wardrobe yet. 
Yeah, no, I'm fascinated to see 

663
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,040
Wes. 
Can I? 

664
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,000
Can I in? 
Three months time, yeah. 

665
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,080
I'm gonna, I'm gonna do. 
Episode 2 I'm. 

666
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,160
Gonna update you, but I collect 
it because I think right now the

667
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,520
I've gone through, I went 
through a stage of like, I 

668
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,600
really just didn't care what I 
wore is and I think I was, I was

669
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,120
actually going a bit mentally, I
was struggling a little bit as 

670
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,800
well. 
So I think I just I threw on 

671
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,600
whatever, yeah. 
Then got used to wearing 

672
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,240
whatever. 
Yeah, but I'm in such a great 

673
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,280
headspace now. 
So now I'm like trying to take a

674
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,480
bit more pride in it. 
I think it it makes a 

675
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,000
difference. 
Would you say your physique has 

676
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,040
always been part of your 
identity? 

677
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,840
It was I think then started 
eating a lot more. 

678
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,120
I always used to be shredded and
I could eat whatever whenever 

679
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,680
and I wouldn't put on my and 
don't get me wrong, my physics, 

680
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,000
I'm in a decent nick. 
Like I'm in fine. 

681
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,560
I'm just a little fluffy. 
Just just I just haven't, I 

682
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,560
think literally I had since I 
was like 3 used to have an 8 

683
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,240
pack and people were like what? 
You have an 8 pack? 

684
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,800
There's not even a six pack. 
That's nuts. 

685
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,320
I'm the guy. 
Then came pizza and then then 

686
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,040
came a lot of food just from 
being just from being yeah, that

687
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,600
too. 
Just just being in the studio 

688
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,640
all the time, not moving around.
And I used to play sports all 

689
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,280
the time, used to fight 
obviously, and this and the 

690
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,880
other. 
So I have got a membership now 

691
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,280
at the gym which I miss me and 
my misses. 

692
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,760
I've promised each other I'm 
going to do the London Marathon 

693
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,040
next year. 
So wow. 

694
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,680
So I'm going to get, I've got to
get in good knee. 

695
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,320
Can I for that? 
And, and what's your sports kit 

696
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,080
going to be? 
Nike. 

697
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,520
I just wear Nike. 
Do you? 

698
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,960
I was going to ask you in terms 
of of sneakers, are you? 

699
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,560
I have these alpha fly alpha 
flies I like. 

700
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,720
I like technology. 
I'm a bit of a geek with things 

701
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,560
and these alpha well. 
That's your engineering. 

702
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,920
Yeah, they have like the carbon,
carbon flate plates in them and 

703
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,720
apparently they make you a 
kangaroo and stuff, so. 

704
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Yeah, make you run really fast. 
Make you run really quick. 

705
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,920
But you know what's happening 
now? 

706
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,840
Actually, I've started playing 
golf and I love very. 

707
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,280
Grown. 
Up I love golf fashion. 

708
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,560
I was going to say what? 
It's maybe this, maybe this is 

709
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,720
where it's taking me well. 
You know, even the polo type, 

710
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,240
sort of Miyagi top is sort of 
slightly golfy. 

711
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,080
The the golf attire is my new 
favorite thing is my new 

712
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,760
favorite thing. 
I'd wear it out. 

713
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,640
OK, so we're going to see you in
Argyle sweaters. 

714
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:09,679
You could you? 
I've got one. 

715
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,639
Yeah, I've got one. 
But also, so I looked at the 

716
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,040
retro golf stuff. 
I really like that as well. 

717
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,760
The retro golf stuff is quite 
cool. 

718
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,120
Like the baggier? 
Like the baggier pants and 

719
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,600
stuff. 
And the old golf golfing. 

720
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:23,040
Yeah, yeah, I've got the old 
ones and I've got the new ones. 

721
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,320
And did I look a bit weird when 
I went to this company the other

722
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,320
day wearing the retro stuff? 
Yeah. 

723
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,400
But it was really, it looked 
really cool, like when I was 

724
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,880
stood there on the first tee and
I saw everyone in like really 

725
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,679
tight wherever I was, like, I'm 
comfy and I won the comp. 

726
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,040
So it's probably because I was 
comfy. 

727
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,800
Now, talking fitness, you did 
Dancing on Ice. 

728
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
How did you feel in the Lycra 

729
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,040
costumes? 
So let if I could describe that 

730
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,639
sequence, sequence. 
A lot of sequence. 

731
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,000
And a lot of lycra. 
And a lot of lycra. 

732
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,760
I just threw myself into it. 
I think after the first day I 

733
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,920
saw the rail, he said these are 
your options. 

734
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,160
I was like, right, I get it. 
I get. 

735
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,760
It nervous giggle. 
There's it was like, there's 

736
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,440
nothing I can do here. 
Every single one of them is the 

737
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,560
same and you look like a bit of 
a, can I say knob. 

738
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,640
You can say no. 
You look like I said it. 

739
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,760
You you look, you look like a 
bit of a knob. 

740
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,400
Not wearing, trying to look too 
cool. 

741
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,840
Yeah. 
You're on Dancing on Ice. 

742
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,440
Yeah, you're ice dancing. 
Wear sequins. 

743
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,160
Yeah, it looks good. 
Yeah. 

744
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,280
So I was dressed as Peter Pan at
one point, Peter flipping Pan. 

745
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,280
And I did the headbanger so. 
Oh my goodness. 

746
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,720
No, I loved it. 
I actually enjoyed it. 

747
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:42,280
Do you have one item of clothing
that means the most to you? 

748
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:49,240
I have this vintage Gucci suit. 
Is it tom-tom Ford Tom Ford 

749
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:52,480
Gucci? 
Yeah, and it is Tom Ford Gucci. 

750
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,400
It has like these GS, like the 
sort of blocky GS all over it. 

751
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,840
And that's the first nice like 
designer sort of suit that I've 

752
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,880
ever bought. 
That was when I and it's, it 

753
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,760
still fits now, which is cool in
that every time I put that on, I

754
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,680
feel like 1,000,000 bucks. 
What colour? 

755
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,920
It's like Gray, brown. 
It's weird. 

756
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,160
Yeah. 
Some lights it looks a bit 

757
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,520
brown, but in sort of like the 
dark, it looks Gray. 

758
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,920
Yeah. 
But that's the first quite 

759
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,280
expensive thing that I bought, I
think ever. 

760
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:31,160
And I think I bought it and I 
when I got home I was like, I've

761
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,160
made it. 
I was going to say, did you buy 

762
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,600
it as a reward it? 
Was after a shoot and I saw it 

763
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,280
and I was just like, I don't 
even want to wear it for the 

764
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,760
shoot. 
I want to keep it. 

765
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,560
Like I just want it. 
And did you wear it for the 

766
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,640
shoot? 
No, no. 

767
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,600
It was just like, that's mine. 
I just want, I want. 

768
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,880
I don't know what I wanted to do
with it. 

769
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,200
I just wanted it. 
Do you look after your clothes 

770
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,600
really well? 
No, I don't know, sorry. 

771
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,440
You've got all these gorgeous 
things. 

772
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,640
Yeah, it's bad. 
No. 

773
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,800
So I lose a lot of things. 
How? 

774
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,200
I don't know. 
I don't honestly, if I knew how 

775
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,800
I'd put a stop to it, I'd put a 
plug in it. 

776
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,600
So this, this is another thing I
don't. 

777
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,040
I felt like I didn't deserve 
them clothes because the way I 

778
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,760
was for going out and there's 
drinks and and I'd have like a 

779
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:21,880
cranberry stain here and a it, 
it was bad and it no, it's just,

780
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,240
it wasn't, doesn't have no 
excuse. 

781
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,520
It was just bad. 
But it was just being reckless. 

782
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,480
And I think because I was young 
and it was just doing silly 

783
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,440
things and I don't, although I 
was wearing nice things, I 

784
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,760
didn't want to just stand on egg
shells and whatever. 

785
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,920
I wanted to have a while. 
I wanted to have a good night or

786
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,360
I wanted to go. 
And if I wanted to jump over 

787
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,160
that bollock, you can jump over 
the bollard even if the trousers

788
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,480
rip. 
I I have this real belief in 

789
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,200
don't save your best. 
No, you can't. 

790
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,720
You've got to wear your. 
Best so I wore the had these LV 

791
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:54,880
the LV air forces. 
I remember they came out lovely.

792
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,640
And they, yeah, there was, I 
think at one point they were 

793
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,280
selling for like 25 K, but I 
didn't get them for that. 

794
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,160
There was way less. 
I got them for retail like 

795
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,960
normal. 
That was the resale, but resell 

796
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,960
they were going for like 25 
grand and I think the first 

797
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,240
night they got cranberry all 
over. 

798
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:16,120
Oh, oh, Ouch. 
And everyone's like you're an 

799
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,600
idiot. 
You should never have worn them.

800
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,720
It's like, well, first of all, I
didn't spill the drink. 

801
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,440
Second of all is cranberry will 
come out and it did. 

802
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,840
Don't tell me you put those in. 
No, I didn't. 

803
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,040
No, I didn't. 
I went to a shoe doctor and he 

804
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,200
cleaned them and made them nice.
But there's like a couple of 

805
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,880
things I think in the Nice to 
Meet You music video. 

806
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,320
I wore the Dior Jordans when 
they when they came out. 

807
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,680
We had like loads of them in the
fridge. 

808
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,800
In the fridge. 
Yeah, in this fridge. 

809
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,480
What do you mean in the fridge? 
When it said stepped in, froze, 

810
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,520
like stepped in, froze the 
freezer, and then he opens the 

811
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,200
freezer and there's loads of 
these Dior Jordans and OK, it 

812
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,040
was ridiculous, OK. 
I was beginning to say, why were

813
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,200
the sneakers in the fridge? 
Let's talk about travel for a 

814
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,080
moment. 
As a well known face, are you 

815
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:06,680
very aware of your airport look?
Berkey's, Berkey's Big joggers, 

816
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,480
the Jesus joggers will come with
me and a massive baggy top. 

817
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,920
I just get warm on planes. 
And favorite luggage? 

818
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,840
Rimowa. 
I have Rimowas because I can 

819
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,760
ride them. 
What colour? 

820
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,200
Silver, yeah, I got the silver 
ones. 

821
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,240
I've got the big one and the 
small one and wherever we go 

822
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,600
when we're on tour and whatever 
it's one of the boys will sit on

823
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,000
the bigger one. 
I like the smaller one. 

824
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,400
It's more nimble. 
And we, we race, we race, yeah, 

825
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,200
we race the airport, yeah. 
So in certain airports 

826
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,160
especially, I think it's. 
Oh God, where they have the. 

827
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,400
Ramp. 
When it's the ramp, you get some

828
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,480
real speed down there. 
Malaga airport when you get out 

829
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,600
of that one. 
Really good R.E.M. there. 

830
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,920
It's so silly that I know all 
the ramps because I ride my 

831
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,680
suitcase. 
Such a new one for remote. 

832
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,000
I mean, that is just brilliant. 
Yeah, remote, if you're 

833
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,320
listening to this, get me some 
new wheels. 

834
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,360
We need to take it in for a 
service. 

835
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,000
You take it in for a service. 
Grease them up. 

836
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,320
You'll end up with being sent a 
remote with sort of. 

837
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,400
Tractor, truck, no tires. 
I can ride outside. 

838
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,800
It's more difficult on tarmac, 
but through airports. 

839
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,520
Believe some more. 
Oh my God, are you a good Packer

840
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,840
or a bad Packer? 
My message would say a bad 

841
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,400
Packer. 
I'd say I'm in a fishing Packer.

842
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,400
OK, but do you lay your clothes 
out beautifully with tissue 

843
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,200
paper or? 
Whoa, do you? 

844
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,080
Do you do that? 
No, I don't. 

845
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,560
Do people do that? 
I think some people do with. 

846
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,560
Tissue paper. 
Yeah, I just layer a plastic 

847
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,920
laundry bag down and I roll 
everything all together and 

848
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,360
nothing gets creased. 
It's brilliant. 

849
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,760
Yeah, I hear that. 
But I'm always gonna, I'm, I'm 

850
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,400
always gonna steam it as soon as
I get out. 

851
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,200
Exactly. 
Anyway, so then it doesn't 

852
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,080
matter if it's creased. 
Would you say you've got 

853
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,280
anything in particular in excess
in your wardrobe or is that 

854
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,360
shoes everything? 
Shoes, shoes and T-shirts a lot 

855
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,120
a. 
Lot how many Pair of shoes? 

856
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,520
Pairs of shoes, including 
sneakers and books. 

857
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:04,800
More than 100, yeah, more, more 
than more than 100 in my house 

858
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,880
here in up north, more than 100 
T-shirts. 

859
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:13,240
So there's I have 4 rails so I 
have my dressing room upstairs 

860
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,120
there's four rails of T-shirts, 
but then are. 

861
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,840
They hanging? 
Yeah, they're hanging so you can

862
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,520
see them. 
Four colors, yeah. 

863
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,800
So I have whites, black and then
colors. 

864
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,400
So you're pretty organized, 
Yeah. 

865
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,520
But then it can so quickly get 
destroyed. 

866
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,760
I can't tell you how quickly 
because when I'm usually if I'm 

867
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,600
in a rush, I'm like, and then 
it's a long process of putting 

868
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,680
all back on. 
So that some, some people have 

869
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,080
walked into my room, especially 
when it's tour time and I've 

870
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,480
been come back for like an hour 
or something and I've left 

871
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,000
something somewhere they'll look
in my wardrobe like and they'll 

872
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,920
be like, what the hell has 
happened? 

873
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,760
The Poltergeist I. 
Don't know. 

874
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,880
Absolutely not. 
Came in because he couldn't find

875
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,000
a purple T-shirt. 
Don't. 

876
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,800
Know where? 
He is don't know where he's got.

877
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,800
He always jumps out. 
Guilty secret. 

878
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,000
Most expensive item of clothing 
you've ever bought. 

879
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,680
Don't have to give me the price 
tag. 

880
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,160
You're wincing. 
Yeah, there's been, there was 

881
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,280
one that was, I wouldn't say 
it's the most expensive. 

882
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,320
That's not jewellery, right? 
No, no, this is, can I say, the 

883
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,160
one that's the most ridiculous 
for what it was? 

884
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,040
Yeah, There's this hockey shirt 
from Chrome Hearts. 

885
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,720
But out of interest, you keep 
annual accounts for your 

886
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,320
clothing. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

887
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,520
Well, because I guess you can 
deduct that. 

888
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,600
My dad keeps annual accounts. 
He saw it. 

889
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,760
Good on you, Dad. 
It was supposed to be for a 

890
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,400
music video with French Montana 
in New York. 

891
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,840
So when flew out and I was like,
oh, that's really cool, send 

892
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,080
that with me, send it, send it, 
send it sent all got sent. 

893
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,080
And then I forgot my chain. 
Actually, the one time that I 

894
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,240
needed the chain because it's 
French Montana and he has 

895
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,400
thousands of chains and and you 
didn't go out? 

896
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,480
No, and I actually went to 
Chrome and bought these two tiny

897
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,720
little things just to have 
something there. 

898
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:12,400
But I also bought that top and 
that was the one time at the 

899
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,600
tail I was just like, what have 
I? 

900
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,040
What have I done that for? 
And did you feel too embarrassed

901
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,760
to? 
No, I was like, I'm gonna wear. 

902
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,480
I wanted it because it fit the 
outfit so well. 

903
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:27,880
I was like, that was a bad idea.
I was for what it was like I've 

904
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,880
spent that on jackets or some 
nights something that I'm going 

905
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,320
to wear again, again and again 
and again. 

906
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,040
But when, yeah, when that one I 
was like, it's just a it's just 

907
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,760
a T-shirt and it really. 
Oh. 

908
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,000
Ouch. 
I mean, you clearly travel a 

909
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,880
lot, Yeah, And love fashion. 
Is there any destination you've 

910
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,320
been to that sort of has 
surprised you by the local 

911
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,200
fashion that you've Paris loved?
I love the way everyone dresses 

912
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,760
in Paris. 
It's just chic. 

913
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,360
Yeah. 
Oh, I can feel a whole new era 

914
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,920
of chicness coming on. 
Can you feel it in your? 

915
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,360
I can. 
I can. 

916
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,760
I can you. 
Excited for me I'm. 

917
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,200
Really excited for you. 
I think we're going to have a 

918
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,800
whole different conversation in 
about 12 months time. 

919
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,480
Yeah, because like when you're 
talking about something like 

920
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,440
what are the brands, I'm like, I
don't know yet. 

921
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,560
I don't know what my favorite 
ones because I haven't tried 

922
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,160
them all. 
Do you ever buy vintage OH? 

923
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,600
Yeah, yeah. 
So I actually bought a lot of 

924
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,480
vintage stuff before I went on 
telly and stuff. 

925
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,840
I was obsessed with this shop in
Stoke and I used to go in and 

926
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,920
just buy loads of at the time 
that the thing was like Ralphie 

927
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,880
T-shirt by the big massive puffy
Ralphie T-shirts. 

928
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,080
Yeah, there's this one that I 
had this green greenie slash 

929
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:42,520
teal, weird color, but I used to
wear that far too much. 

930
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,400
But yeah, vintage stuff. 
I've actually started buying 

931
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,000
more vintage stuff now because 
of golf. 

932
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,280
And where do you go to favorite 
haunts? 

933
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:55,640
So there's this guy who plugs me
on on Instagram. 

934
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,000
I mean, he, he, I don't know 
where he, I don't even know 

935
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,240
where he gets them from, but he 
just sends them. 

936
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:03,280
And I was just like he sends, he
sends like football boots, He 

937
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,920
sends golf stuff, like all 
vintage sports gear he can get 

938
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,120
his hands on. 
Brilliant. 

939
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,080
So yeah, he sends, he sends it 
through to me. 

940
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,280
But yeah. 
Cool. 

941
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,880
OK, some quick fire questions. 
What fashion advice would you 

942
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,360
give to your 20 year old self? 
Don't buy that. 

943
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,640
Which fashion trend would you 
most like to see make a 

944
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:35,960
comeback? 
Big flares that you're going to 

945
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,560
see them on stage. 
I think I am. 

946
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,120
Shoulder pads. 
What fashion or beauty trend 

947
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,560
would you consign to Room 101? 
Oh, Bob, Bob, Bob. 

948
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,440
Room 101 is where you bend 
things. 

949
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,360
Which trend? 
Yeah, skinny jeans like 

950
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,040
Sprayons. 
Oh yeah, your last impulse by. 

951
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:01,280
Probably this morning a a 
vintage golf jacket, but it was 

952
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,880
I saw it and it had to be both. 
Your views on tattoos? 

953
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,560
Hate them? 
Look. 

954
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,040
Beauty or well-being treatment 
you couldn't give up could be 

955
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,720
your hair, It could be. 
Your hair, couldn't it? 

956
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,560
Yeah, my hair sponge. 
High end or High Street? 

957
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,720
High end, yeah. 
Crocs cute or puke? 

958
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,640
Cute cute. 
I haven't got a pair, but 

959
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,320
they're they're right. 
Sambas or gazelles? 

960
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:32,600
Gazelles. 
Cargos or chinos? 

961
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,440
Also the Crocs look you gave me 
then was mental. 

962
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:45,880
Are you like wow respect? 
I haven't got a pair of Crocs. 

963
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,320
I'm a Berkey boy, but I I don't 
mind them. 

964
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,360
OK, I'll give you that. 
Cargos or chinos? 

965
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,680
Cargos. 
Sports Lux It. 

966
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,360
Could be chinos next. 
Though I could. 

967
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,640
Do you know what I think it's 
about to be chinos? 

968
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,840
Yeah. 
Sports Lux or Rock'n'roll? 

969
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,800
Rock'n'roll. 
Savile Row or GORP call. 

970
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,240
Savile Row. 
Double breasted. 

971
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:09,200
Single breasted. 
Single. 

972
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,560
Trend or style? 
Style. 

973
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,960
Colour or monochrome? 
Colour. 

974
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:24,960
Pattern or plain? 
Play playing. 

975
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,400
Let's go play. 
In transition I would say 

976
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,320
hoarder or editor. 
Hoarder. 

977
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,320
Charity shop or resale? 
Charity shop. 

978
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,840
Boxers or briefs? 
Boxers. 

979
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,920
Budgie smugglers or boards? 
Budgie smugglers or board 

980
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,800
shorts? 
Board shorts. 

981
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,040
Beanie or baseball cap? 
Baseball cap. 

982
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,720
And finally, at the end of the 
day, what do you or don't you 

983
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:53,240
wear in bed? 
I don't wear anything in bed. 

984
00:47:55,720 --> 00:48:00,320
Whereas this has been so much 
fun, thank. 

985
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,280
You you've been a. 
Brilliant guest. 

986
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,840
I've had such a laugh. 
I really have. 

987
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,960
Thank you so much. 
Thank you. 

988
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,680
Loved it. 
I've really loved it.