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Today I'm going on a sartorial journey with the English
singer-songwriter and TV personality Wes Nelson.
Hello and welcome, Wes. Hello.
How are you?
I'm really good. How are you?
I'm well, thanks for having me. Good.
It's a It's great to have you here because I know you've been
a busy boy. Very busy.
Yeah, collaborating with Craig. David, can we just talk about
that for a moment? We can happily talk about.
I I cannot get that song off my mind.
I mean, I went to sleep with it in my mind.
It's like magic. I love it.
Yeah. So I've just released a track
with Craig David, which is literally my childhood idol and
I think is like a mixed raced artist in the UK.
For me growing up looking for idols in the music scene,
there's not many. There's not many at all.
They're in that sort of the singing area, not rapping or
whatever. So Craig, growing up for me from
the UK, was that guy. So were you that high with a
microphone? Yeah.
Were you singing his songs? Yeah, I've got pictures of it.
I saw one picture which I just love.
I've got a couple pictures of of me when I was little, my my mum
and dad, They got me this karaoke that didn't even work.
I think for their benefit it didn't, it didn't work at the
time. Well, they just.
Turned the volume. Down exactly.
And, and I used to use that. And I'll be, I'll be singing
Craig's songs or I'll be singing different bits of R&B and stuff
like that. So from an early age, it's been
a big, a big part of my life. I think.
And so how did that collab come about?
So it's a bit of a silly story really.
I was in Ibiza supporting Craig and.
That's quite a line in itself, can I just say?
Yeah, so I was he, he'd asked us to come out to Ibiza to support
him and I went out and did the show.
He watched it, really enjoyed it.
And we spoke after always getting chatting about being in
the studio and what we've got going on.
And he said, Oh well, should we, we, we need to jump in.
And we were like, yeah, let's let's get a song going.
And I was like, I've actually already made a song for you,
Craig. Had you no God?
I fell for that, didn't I? No, but what I did know that it
was get my foot in the door early If I said I'll let's let's
write something about. So I said I've got the idea and
he's like cool, let's do Tuesday.
I was like it's Sunday. So on the way homes right in
away wrote most wrote quite a bit of the song.
Got in with Craig on Tuesday. We finished it all off together,
wrote some nice pieces. He Craigified it.
We made it into a bit more garage because it wasn't so
garage before. And then Abracadabra the chi.
Amazing and and went completely viral too.
Yeah, we, we went #1 and big Top 40, so that's my first ever #1
So we was that was ecstatic, ecstatic.
Brilliant. Yeah, brilliant.
Clean Bandit. Yeah, so that's actually the
highest streaming song I think we've we've ever done.
Grammy winners like it is. It is bonkers when you think
about it. I'm just.
It's exciting. I know I'm just a I'm just a
bloke from Stoke. I'll always just be a bloke from
Stoke. Oh.
I love that a bloke from. Stoke.
Just meet the bloke. From Stoke.
Exactly, exactly. Whereas it does it the bloke
from Stoke. I feel like it's my my new
slogan. You.
Could have told me that when I read you the introduction.
The bloke from Stoke, yeah. So that with with Clean Bandit
and Topic Drive, that's one of my most favorite collabs, I
think. Yeah, that was a a quick one as
well. They actually asked me to get in
the studio the the next day they called up and said we've got a
song, do you want to work on it? I was like, for sure.
So like, can you come tomorrow? I was like, yes, yes I can.
Are you sort of permanently in creative mode?
Yeah, I think you you can never not be creative.
I think you're creative yourself like you always that you can be
inspired by something here or you can see something and it
triggers 1000 thoughts. So I guess you that you can't
really turn a switch off on that.
And I think especially when I'm getting out and about more and
actually leaving my studio because I I become such a
hermit, I stay in my studio and I don't move.
But that's, that's very true of a lot of creatives.
You know once you're in the zone you you don't actually want any
distractions. No, not at all.
So. But when I do get out, I have to
find a balance. Now I just get out and about,
get inspired and and come back in and usually make something a
bit better. And so tell me about the Clean
Bandit at at Wembley. Oh yeah.
So yeah, I think. Moment, yeah.
So it was quite, it was quite bad actually.
So it was my first ever big show.
How many people? I think 20,000 what I think
20,000 and yeah, it there's any, is this called any monitors?
Right. So that's playing your track,
it's playing your voice back to yourself and it stops all the
echo in the in the the crowd. So say if you're the crowd shout
in or the rooms really big. If I project my voice, it'll
take a couple seconds for that to come back.
So so if you're singing on stage and your in ears go out or you
haven't got wedges at the front which give you playback, you
will be singing off time. I'm feeling stressed already.
And I got on stage and it's coming up to a massive high note
that I have in the second-half of it.
And then I hear a bump like a quite a loud bang.
And I turn around to the guys. And luckily it was like sort of
a bit of instrumental, like 1510 seconds instrumental.
I turned to the guys. They were all like fiddling with
their ears. They were like, I don't know, I
don't know what had happened. Is the the antenna or something
that services all of our earpieces blew finished and the
backup finished so we couldn't hear anything, just the music
coming out from the bouncing off the back of the stadium coming
back? Which is too late.
Then, which is too late. So what I did do is looked at
the front row and there's people clapping.
So we started doing this and I used them as my metronome.
Wow. So I I was kept on going like
this and then Grace and they all kept like they clocked on.
We would go like this and we finished the song, but it was
luckily it was only one song that I had to do for that.
But that was it was the scariest moment of my.
Life super stressful. Any other new music coming out?
Yes. So we're actually working on my
my next single right now we're just finalising the feature.
I can't say who the feature is yet, but.
So some you'll collaborate. It's a collab again.
Yeah, amazing. Which is for I'd love collabing
on music. And I think, don't get me wrong,
I love writing my by myself and this that any other book to
collab with other people and get their sort of creative point of
view and then make a whole different song is is amazing.
And the people that we're going to be doing this with now, I've
loved them for ages. So it's really cool to it's like
the Craig sort of thing. Yeah, different, a kind of
different world to me. But it's it's exciting.
It's exciting. Wow, who would be your dream
fashion collaboration? Probably what I'm wearing is he?
Interesting. Yeah, I just think, well, I'm
now going into. It's actually funny that this
has come round now. I feel like I'm going into my
new style era. Oh, right.
OK, well, we're going to get on to that.
I. Feel like I am.
In a second. So.
So you're wearing Izzy today? Izzy Miyaki, Yeah.
And do you reach for Izzy a lot? I do I just like I'm I feel like
I'm a bit plain sometimes. Well, I'm not and I am.
It's weird. I I can be wearing the most
bright patterned wild combination you'd ever did see.
And then the next day I'll just be in plain plain and I'll just
go through these phases. It I think it depends on how I'm
feeling in the day. It's not really, I wouldn't say,
oh, this is my style and this is what I wear and I build, build
everything around it. It's like I wake up in the
morning. I'm a very spontaneous guy.
So you're a mood dresser? Yeah, so I'm like, I fancy that
today if I want to wear a bright pink hat with some Big Blue
boots, I'll wear the Big Blue boots and a pink hat.
But you grew up in Staffordshire?
I did, yeah. We were exposed to fashion from
a young age. Where, you know, did you have a
dapper dad? Oh, my dad loves my dad.
Loved it actually. My dad, my dad always used to
wear this is so straight. He used to wear Paul Smith every
every, every single day. Super sheet.
He just loved Paul Smith like he used to see the What did he?
Do to to be wearing Paul. Smith So my dad was.
So he was wearing that to work. No, he'd wear a suit to work,
but any opportunity to wear Paul Smith, he'd wear Paul Smith.
He was a mechanical engineer, so he worked at Bentley for years.
Oh wow, so hence Staffordshire. Yeah, literally in Crewe.
Yeah. Exactly.
I wanted to follow his footsteps at first.
Well, I was going to say I did read somewhere that you were a
nuclear systems design engineer. Yeah.
Is that true? Yeah, yeah.
So I was, yeah, I was, I was doing uni at the same time, so
it was part on, part off. But four days of four days of
the week, I'd be I'd be working, yeah.
So I wanted to do engineering. I wanted to do mechanical
engineering with father like Bentley or whatever Jag, Land
Rover's really close. It's quite there's quite a lot
of companies. Yes, there are in the Midlands
there. But then that sounds way cool,
isn't it? And then?
What were you wearing back then in your nuclear systems design
engineer days? It was it was a suit.
It was a suit every day. But what was your earliest
sartorial memory? When you when did you first?
I loved wearing a suit to work though.
Did you? I did.
Would you say that was when you first realized the power of
clothes? 'Cause I was like 1819 walking
around town and whatever, walking back into to the shops
and stuff with the suit on or coming finishing work and some
of my friends would still be like and the trackies from uni
and whatever and they're like, fair enough.
That's a nice suit and you just feel like it carries.
It's you, you carry yourself different.
You're like, you stand up a little bit taller, your chest's
out a little bit further. The.
The power of good tailoring, yeah, is is enormous.
My dad made sure that it was, well, Jesus, like you're getting
it tailored. I was like, I'm not paying for
it. You.
You've got an older brother, Curtis, who's a.
Footballer. Yes, he is.
When? You're close as kids.
Very, very, very, very close. I think I'd say he's one of my,
I think he's my best pal, like in the in the world, My, my, my
brother. And he's my biggest inspiration
as well. Oh, that's lovely.
So he's actually, he's actually had the best year.
He's like, let me just give him. Yeah, come on.
He's like he's he's just had a little and and he's one player's
player. He's won a whole bunch of
different players awards. He's just got his first ever
promotion to the championship and he's had a great season.
He played, he's the only player, outfield player to play every
second of every game this year. The reason I'm so inspired by
him is because the amount of work people don't realize that
footballers have to do behind the scenes.
And I'll let him know. It looks great from the surface,
especially Prem, but when you're in them lower leagues and it's
championship, there's so much. What?
He never drinks. He doesn't go out.
He's he's Christmas Day is on his own.
He's left the house at 16. Yeah, so he's my biggest
inspiration. But it's full on 24/7 focus.
You have to be, yeah, because there's another 10 people that
want your place as well. Yeah.
Did you have a a sort of opinions on each other's style
growing? Up.
Yeah, I was always, well, better, way better dressed.
And you're not compassionate at all?
Not. At all now he'd tell you that.
He'd tell you, he's asked me for some tips.
He's like, oh, would you think of this?
I'm like, yeah, it's all right mate, it's all right.
You should maybe that and he'd be like, all right, fair enough.
There's some things that I'd wear that he would not wear.
So were you the style leader? Yeah.
I mean, I'm more daring with I wear.
He's a lot less daring with what you'd wear.
Yeah. Now you shot to fame also when
you appeared on the 4th series of Love Island.
How did that opportunity come about?
I was 19 and I just got a message on Instagram from
actually a manager and he said, have you ever thought about
going on Love Island? I was like, not really geese.
No, not, not really just got my job and I'm feeling like great.
He's like, would you would you ever fancy it?
And I was just like, well, you know what, I've just had my
week, my my work holidays have just refreshed.
Let's give it a whirl. So I went down, had a couple a
couple into five or six interviews and then they said,
do you fancy flying out in somewhere like you've got the
you've got the gig. I was like, give it well, told
work. That was a funny conversation,
just like. So what you go from design
engineer to? Love Island, it was so random.
I was just like, I might be, I might be missing for a couple of
weeks on telly, but you've got to keep it private, blah, blah,
blah. So fair enough, cool.
But I think it was a weird comment.
I was doing that and I was doing Mai Tai kickboxing and stuff
like that. So I think there was watching
from the outside thinking who's this guy who does a nuclear
engineering and kickboxing and football and.
And actually could be on Love Island.
So but yeah, that's that's how that happened.
Very weird. How did you prepare and listen,
I know you don't wear a lot on Love Island.
Like there's a lot of board shorts there's.
Not much. How did you decide what you were
going to take to wear on Love Island?
So at the time I'm from Stoke, there's not a lot of sun.
I'm from Cheshire, there's not a lot of sun.
And Stoke on Trent, there's really not a lot of sun.
So everything I had pretty much at the time, I can remember
running around trying to find just T-shirts and you can't wear
logos, so you have to buy plain. T-shirts.
So I was like all of the things that I because at that point I
was starting to actually get a bit more money.
So I was buying some designer stuff.
I was like, yeah, come on, I'm going to take all of this, open
my suitcase and were like, no, no, no.
I was like, Oh my God, I have nothing left.
And then they have their own sponsors.
So you sort of everyone just scrambles to try and find the
best bits. From do do they literally just
open? Up big bag in and just like let
everyone run out of it, like hyenas and Ricketts and all
that. It's bad, It's bad.
Oh, but coming back to performing, what do you most
enjoy wearing to perform in? Do you have a sort of
performance uniform, as it were? Yes.
But I think it's going to, it's going to change now.
So what was it? So so when I first started, I'm
going to have to give a bit back back in.
So when I first started doing music, the the debut singer was
called Cena Buddy and it was with the rapper called Hardy
Caprio. And then after that it was nice
to meet you with young Bane, who's another rapper.
So I was around a lot of rappers and they all wear chains and
they all have I. Was going to say there's a lot
of. Like the oil chains and bust
down massive watches and this and the other and I was just
like, I can't be in the music video and not have some of this
right. So foolishly went out and bought
the diamond watch. Bought this, bought that, bought
quite a bunch of stuff and like. What, Like what?
Watch. So it was an an automobile pig,
a just a. Sort of understated little
diamond watch. Bright blue strap with diamonds,
yellow, gold. It just, it was so silly.
It was so silly, but it looked great on camera.
I can't like. So some of these things I do
regret in hindsight. I'm like, oh stupid daft, but I
feel like I had to go through that to that phase.
So you were dressing the part? I was dressing.
I was dressing a bit like what you'd call a rapper, like I was
dressing like the stereotypical rap.
So there'll be huge logos like big LV and a big this and big
that. And that was that was the the
start thing I wore the Nego Nego LV collab is like double denim
LV print all over it. That was my first music video.
And then I think second pretty much the exact same.
I think a lot of my stage outfits at the time sort of
reflected that as well. So I'd be wearing a lot of big
designers with huge brands, if there any.
Other and were you being gifted any of that?
Hell no, It was ridiculous. OK, so quite a.
My dad a. Big costume budget.
Yeah. So what would happen was you?
Spent all the proteins. I spent more on clothes than I'd
even like to disclose. It's it that was a there was a
two year period where it was silly, like it was ridiculous.
My dad, he was just like, you need to stop doing.
This Now, were you doing that because you felt you needed to
look the part, or were you doing it because you could and you
were just loving? I think I was a bit young.
I was just young and just, I was just like, I think it was when
they they prepare a rail or something like that.
And it would be, it would be that I'd say I would like this,
I like this and they'd prepare a rail for the shoot or whatever.
And then I'd really like it all. And they'd be like, can I have
it all? And they're like, yes, you can.
Here's the invoice. And then you.
Yeah. And then I pay it.
But, and then I have a personal shopper at a time that just send
things out. And if I didn't like it, then I
just send it back. Ask me how many I sent back.
Zero. So that had to stop because it's
just, don't get me wrong, it's cool.
And it looked great on the videos and it sort of fit the
music that I was doing then. But my music's changing a bit
now. I'm moving way more pop and it's
a bit more true to myself, to be honest, because I don't know why
people Sometimes I think on the first single I was the bit of
melodic rap, but other than that, every single song I've
ever done has been singing. Yeah, but then people still
describe me as a rapper, which is.
It's funny how. You is is bonkers.
Early days you can get labeled, you know in the fashion is true,
it's the same and it's really hard evolving out.
Literally. But yeah, I think just more
playing stuff. I think on my last tour it was
bacon hot at all times on stage and I really move around on
stage and especially with the set was doing then was jumping
around. So it would start in these huge
parachute sort of trousers, big baggy Balenciaga trousers and
then I'd have a vest on and then some sort of overshirt.
And then after song two I'm absolutely bacon.
So that'd come off and it'd be the vest and the massive
cargoes. It was like it looked like huge
Dino stumpers and it's it's cool though.
I really liked it. It was cool.
But this time round I think I'm moving a little less.
We can have a band and stuff on stage for my tour so I can dress
a little. Are you able to influence what
the band wears? Yeah, to degree, but I want them
to express themselves like I think like my, my friend Nate
notes, guitarist, pianist, all in gentle magician.
He's he loves purple. He loves purple, so I'm never
going to go to Nate. Just wear black.
Yeah. It's ridiculous.
I think they're All Stars in their own.
Everyone on the stage is a star in their own right, and he's an
absolute superstar. So Nate wants to wear all
purple. Yeah, Nate notes.
You can wear purple. And you're going to be wearing.
What do you think? I'm I'm actually doing I'm I'm
doing a meeting next week on styling.
So is that with a stylist? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so is this a stylist you've worked with before?
It's not. I've known her work for a
minute. I know a couple of people that
have worked with her. And you have you briefed her as
to where your heads at at the moment?
Yeah, I have a little more classy just.
I was going to say, do you mind me asking what your brief to her
was? Do you know do you know the
artist called Givian? Yeah.
You know when he's on stage and he has his nice, like, crop
sleeve shirt? Yeah, tucked in, tucked into his
trousers and the the fold over sort of waistband.
Yeah, that kind of sleek with the little pleats at the top
sometimes maybe. Wow, that is a big move on from
the. I like, I really like dressing
like that though. So if I go out for a meal with
the missus or whatever, that's that's kind of what I'm wearing.
It's only really on stage or this or in certain places, in
certain environments that I'll wear.
And so and so the favorite brands for that look would be.
Dior is the last place. Nearly all my suits and stuff is
from Dior Prada. Beautifully.
Tailored, they're just, they're just, they just fit me well.
I think I've got a weird shaped legs so they always fit.
Have you ever had a suit made for you on Savile Row?
I don't know. I think I've always just bought
them off. I'll just get them from my
shopper, my personal shopper, and then just get them tailored.
And personal shopper is within a big store.
Yeah, she's actually just left. She's actually she's been there
for 25 years in Selfridges. I was, I knew you were going to
say. Selfridges, do you know Debbie?
I've heard of her. Yeah, so.
But can she continue with you? Yeah, I spoke to her today.
I'm actually going. I'm going to Selfridges after
you. I'm not.
So there's Annie who's works in there now.
She's going to sort me out. She's got a room set up for me,
actually, after this. Brilliant.
Which is cool. Oh my God, can we just take the?
Camera, we can all go. I was actually going to go
before, but I didn't have a chance.
I didn't have a chance because I was getting my hair done, but.
Can we just talk about the hair for a moment?
That's new as well. So I've always had just straight
1 1/2 on top and like skin faded up.
Yeah. Now I've got like what sits in
my hair, but I'm just growing it out.
So basically the way I do it is if I, if I comb it out, it's
like a microphone. Yeah.
And then I have a sponge. It's got little holes in it.
Yeah. And you just go like this.
Oh wow. And then that.
Yeah, so it just. It sort of.
Twizzles. Yeah, it twizzles them.
But then this. Yeah.
No, he's, he's just shaped it up today.
So he's. So how often do you have to have
that RE? I can do it myself, but when he
does it, it's like God, you wouldn't want to.
Have a hangover, would you? Pythagoras theorem.
I think he did. It's just like, Are you sure you
got this? But no, he's he's, he's really
good. His name's Eli.
He's a great Barber. And are you into your grooming
your men's facial products? My girlfriend's trying to trying
to help me out with this because I just splash water on my face
and just a bit of soap in the shower.
And what's she been? Well.
Handing you away. Is it called Laura Mess?
Yeah. Oh my goodness, is that right?
Yeah, pot, pink pot of moisturizer, Yeah.
Use it, you know judiciously. I know.
She's been very generous. Like I just loo pin.
I call it petty Faloo because it just smells great.
But no, she so she's yeah, she's told me to get that.
I've got that. It's in there.
I am listening. I am listening.
But I think my skin's usually been all right.
Like most, most of the time I try and stay on top.
My beard's not, I've not got a great beard.
So it's I don't have to stay on top of that.
The wind blows. It will shave it itself.
So it's, it's it's. That's fine.
Talk to me about your tats for a minute.
Right, so. When did you first start?
How old were you I? Think it was two year and a half
two years ago. Oh so really recently.
Yeah, two, I think about two years ago.
Very first one. I crossed my fingers.
When was your first one? I think yeah.
So yeah, two years ago I got my parents birth dates across and
my brother's my faith. The three weapons that I'd
e-mail out, which is Alfred, Curtis, Pauline, which is my
mum, dad and brother, they all have a lot of meaning in the
first independent single, blah blah blah.
Can you tell me about the skeleton?
This one, oh, until I die. He's got a little microphone in
his hand. Oh, OK, yeah, right.
And then what does that say Island?
I start on everything I say and then this is.
I can't tell you about this one because it's about the misses,
right? It's yeah, it's where I'm at,
the missus, but it's the whatever.
But I'm trying to keep the missus thing.
Hush. OK, We.
Missus isn't public knowledge. It's she, they don't know who
she is, but right. Yeah, but that's I actually got
my first playful one the other day and it's a sunny D sunny D
orange bottle. And the reason being is because
my when I used to go to my granddad's house on my father's
side, he used to always have sunny D in the fridge and I
obviously it was just full of rubbish so I was never allowed
at home. So now.
You've got it tattooed on to. You so I was like, what's the
most, what's the playful way of remembering my granddad And sort
of she's put in a date. So I was just like sunny D As
soon as I get to my grandad's I run to the fridge and like get
the sunny D. Oh that's so just lovely, the
sunny D. So you're on a journey with the
Tats? Yes.
So it's not like I don't want to just fill spots.
I want everything. Absolutely.
Everything has a lot of something that I can't really
say, but yeah. So the miss is a serious thing.
Yeah, it is. I wouldn't be in it if it wasn't
nothing. Wedding bells.
Not yet. But if you were gonna get
married this year, what would you want to wear to your
wedding? I'm a classic man.
I think with weddings. I don't actually want a big
wedding. But what would you want to wear?
Black black suit, straight tux. I think it would be quite A and.
Who would cut that? I don't know, but you could you
could recommend me someone if you.
Come on, you're wearing Dior on Prada already.
Prada my my favorite suit is Prada the the Prada one that I
have. It has like sort of this has a a
strap sort of buckle that goes across the front.
Did you know the one? They, I mean they cut beautiful
suits. But it's that is my favorite,
favorite, favorite suit. Yeah.
It just fits so well. When I went to, I took the Mr.
Mrs. to Paris and wore it to the Moulin Rouge.
And it was. It just felt felt really good in
it. It felt good.
It felt really good. I don't want to take it off.
I'll be real. It's one of them suit jackets.
As well as that, even when you're inside, I was like, I
don't really want to take this off, so I'm just going to.
Isn't that great? Yeah, it is.
It is. It does.
Fundamentally, who do you think you dress for?
Yourself. Your missus?
Your audience. Well, that's a great question
because I think that's changed a bit more and I think it links to
what I was saying earlier before it was the audience.
Yeah, straight away I think that's just going into a bit of
money and then thinking I need to be someone for them or I was
looking at everyone else and comparing and then saying I need
to dress like that. That's not really my style then,
is it? It's just, it's just a, it's
just a shelf, isn't it? Everyone's got, everyone can get
that style. It's not like it's a style.
So I think now I'm dressing for me a lot more and especially
with this meeting now that we're about to do, I've put quite a
bit of thought into what I want. And I think that's really where
it's going to be at the turning point in my head.
It's the turning point already, but the the wardrobe's going to
be taken out and I'm just going to put a whole new thing in and.
What will you do with that lot that's been?
See what the old man wants, see what the brother wants, and the
rest of it can can go somewhere. And you do.
You don't archive anything like what you.
Wore on stage there there. So there's a couple there's like
the the Nego LV stuff that's that stays that's has to stay.
There's this there's these massive baggy sort of trousers
and braces that I wore for the Nice to Meet You music video,
whereas Edward Scissorhands all of them things.
I wore some pineapple trousers things with the Clean Bandit.
You must archive though, yeah. All of them are in a box.
Yeah. So I don't really.
I don't really wear them. Yeah, sometimes I might wear
them, but they're staying forever.
They will stay forever. Would you say you've got a style
icon? At one I think it changes for
me. Yeah, it sounds like it.
Yeah, because I, I, I think at one point I love the way that
Chris Brown dress. I really loved it and now I
really like the way give you on dresses and I think it looks
really, really cool but I don't want to.
I don't want to copy a style though.
No, you want. To.
I really want to. I want to have my own sort of
style without looking ridiculous.
If someone were to describe him, the misses were to describe your
style in three words. How would what 3 words were?
Those when I'm usually with the misses we don't because we can't
low key with where we go and whatever if.
Is this because it's a deep secret?
Yeah, I just don't want to. I don't want to have a public
relationship. Yeah, I've done it.
Yeah, Doesn't work for me. I've clearly done it.
Yeah, done a couple and look where they ended.
So like, and she's an absolute star.
So I just want to keep this as private as can be.
And don't get me wrong, there was going to be times when we're
seeing out about or whatever, but that's fine.
But I'm not going to go out of my way to make that.
No, but she would probably say comfortable for sure because
comfort's key for me at the moment, especially when we're if
we're going like a park walk or we're going here or I'm in the
house, I'll be in some either some jogger shorts or the
baggiest joggers. She calls them the Jesus joggers
because they are so big brown baggy things.
But they're the comfiest things. Yeah, you've ever seen.
I'll have my Berkeys on underneath which.
Berkeys. So I've got the mocker straps
and then the grey ones and the black ones.
But I, I'm, I love Berkeys and I've got the closed toes as
well. Yeah.
But these are. Cozy.
Yeah, they're the coziest things.
I don't if if this wasn't in a nice in a nice like a podcast or
whatever and was just going to the studio, I would be in my
burkies right now, right, Because that is my issue.
So we've got comfortable. Comfortable, bright.
I'd say actually a lot. If you look in my wardrobe, at
first it used to be monochrome. Now you look at it and it is
like a rainbow. Yeah.
Ran a bit random. Does random make sense?
There's a better word for random.
Eclectic. Yes, eclectic, because the way
that I combine some things is red card.
I think you're struggling with this because you're evolving
your style as we speak. Yeah, exactly.
That's what I mean. I don't like, I could have
described it before. It's so easy, like monochrome
ostentatious labels or whatever. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But now I actually don't really if because I've not got that
wardrobe yet. Yeah, no, I'm fascinated to see
Wes. Can I?
Can I in? Three months time, yeah.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna do. Episode 2 I'm.
Gonna update you, but I collect it because I think right now the
I've gone through, I went through a stage of like, I
really just didn't care what I wore is and I think I was, I was
actually going a bit mentally, I was struggling a little bit as
well. So I think I just I threw on
whatever, yeah. Then got used to wearing
whatever. Yeah, but I'm in such a great
headspace now. So now I'm like trying to take a
bit more pride in it. I think it it makes a
difference. Would you say your physique has
always been part of your identity?
It was I think then started eating a lot more.
I always used to be shredded and I could eat whatever whenever
and I wouldn't put on my and don't get me wrong, my physics,
I'm in a decent nick. Like I'm in fine.
I'm just a little fluffy. Just just I just haven't, I
think literally I had since I was like 3 used to have an 8
pack and people were like what? You have an 8 pack?
There's not even a six pack. That's nuts.
I'm the guy. Then came pizza and then then
came a lot of food just from being just from being yeah, that
too. Just just being in the studio
all the time, not moving around. And I used to play sports all
the time, used to fight obviously, and this and the
other. So I have got a membership now
at the gym which I miss me and my misses.
I've promised each other I'm going to do the London Marathon
next year. So wow.
So I'm going to get, I've got to get in good knee.
Can I for that? And, and what's your sports kit
going to be? Nike.
I just wear Nike. Do you?
I was going to ask you in terms of of sneakers, are you?
I have these alpha fly alpha flies I like.
I like technology. I'm a bit of a geek with things
and these alpha well. That's your engineering.
Yeah, they have like the carbon, carbon flate plates in them and
apparently they make you a kangaroo and stuff, so.
Yeah, make you run really fast. Make you run really quick.
But you know what's happening now?
Actually, I've started playing golf and I love very.
Grown. Up I love golf fashion.
I was going to say what? It's maybe this, maybe this is
where it's taking me well. You know, even the polo type,
sort of Miyagi top is sort of slightly golfy.
The the golf attire is my new favorite thing is my new
favorite thing. I'd wear it out.
OK, so we're going to see you in Argyle sweaters.
You could you? I've got one.
Yeah, I've got one. But also, so I looked at the
retro golf stuff. I really like that as well.
The retro golf stuff is quite cool.
Like the baggier? Like the baggier pants and
stuff. And the old golf golfing.
Yeah, yeah, I've got the old ones and I've got the new ones.
And did I look a bit weird when I went to this company the other
day wearing the retro stuff? Yeah.
But it was really, it looked really cool, like when I was
stood there on the first tee and I saw everyone in like really
tight wherever I was, like, I'm comfy and I won the comp.
So it's probably because I was comfy.
Now, talking fitness, you did Dancing on Ice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did you feel in the Lycra
costumes? So let if I could describe that
sequence, sequence. A lot of sequence.
And a lot of lycra. And a lot of lycra.
I just threw myself into it. I think after the first day I
saw the rail, he said these are your options.
I was like, right, I get it. I get.
It nervous giggle. There's it was like, there's
nothing I can do here. Every single one of them is the
same and you look like a bit of a, can I say knob.
You can say no. You look like I said it.
You you look, you look like a bit of a knob.
Not wearing, trying to look too cool.
Yeah. You're on Dancing on Ice.
Yeah, you're ice dancing. Wear sequins.
Yeah, it looks good. Yeah.
So I was dressed as Peter Pan at one point, Peter flipping Pan.
And I did the headbanger so. Oh my goodness.
No, I loved it. I actually enjoyed it.
Do you have one item of clothing that means the most to you?
I have this vintage Gucci suit. Is it tom-tom Ford Tom Ford
Gucci? Yeah, and it is Tom Ford Gucci.
It has like these GS, like the sort of blocky GS all over it.
And that's the first nice like designer sort of suit that I've
ever bought. That was when I and it's, it
still fits now, which is cool in that every time I put that on, I
feel like 1,000,000 bucks. What colour?
It's like Gray, brown. It's weird.
Yeah. Some lights it looks a bit
brown, but in sort of like the dark, it looks Gray.
Yeah. But that's the first quite
expensive thing that I bought, I think ever.
And I think I bought it and I when I got home I was like, I've
made it. I was going to say, did you buy
it as a reward it? Was after a shoot and I saw it
and I was just like, I don't even want to wear it for the
shoot. I want to keep it.
Like I just want it. And did you wear it for the
shoot? No, no.
It was just like, that's mine. I just want, I want.
I don't know what I wanted to do with it.
I just wanted it. Do you look after your clothes
really well? No, I don't know, sorry.
You've got all these gorgeous things.
Yeah, it's bad. No.
So I lose a lot of things. How?
I don't know. I don't honestly, if I knew how
I'd put a stop to it, I'd put a plug in it.
So this, this is another thing I don't.
I felt like I didn't deserve them clothes because the way I
was for going out and there's drinks and and I'd have like a
cranberry stain here and a it, it was bad and it no, it's just,
it wasn't, doesn't have no excuse.
It was just bad. But it was just being reckless.
And I think because I was young and it was just doing silly
things and I don't, although I was wearing nice things, I
didn't want to just stand on egg shells and whatever.
I wanted to have a while. I wanted to have a good night or
I wanted to go. And if I wanted to jump over
that bollock, you can jump over the bollard even if the trousers
rip. I I have this real belief in
don't save your best. No, you can't.
You've got to wear your. Best so I wore the had these LV
the LV air forces. I remember they came out lovely.
And they, yeah, there was, I think at one point they were
selling for like 25 K, but I didn't get them for that.
There was way less. I got them for retail like
normal. That was the resale, but resell
they were going for like 25 grand and I think the first
night they got cranberry all over.
Oh, oh, Ouch. And everyone's like you're an
idiot. You should never have worn them.
It's like, well, first of all, I didn't spill the drink.
Second of all is cranberry will come out and it did.
Don't tell me you put those in. No, I didn't.
I went to a shoe doctor and he
cleaned them and made them nice. But there's like a couple of
things I think in the Nice to Meet You music video.
I wore the Dior Jordans when they when they came out.
We had like loads of them in the fridge.
In the fridge. Yeah, in this fridge.
What do you mean in the fridge? When it said stepped in, froze,
like stepped in, froze the freezer, and then he opens the
freezer and there's loads of these Dior Jordans and OK, it
was ridiculous, OK. I was beginning to say, why were
the sneakers in the fridge? Let's talk about travel for a
moment. As a well known face, are you
very aware of your airport look? Berkey's, Berkey's Big joggers,
the Jesus joggers will come with me and a massive baggy top.
I just get warm on planes. And favorite luggage?
Rimowa. I have Rimowas because I can
ride them. What colour?
Silver, yeah, I got the silver ones.
I've got the big one and the small one and wherever we go
when we're on tour and whatever it's one of the boys will sit on
the bigger one. I like the smaller one.
It's more nimble. And we, we race, we race, yeah,
we race the airport, yeah. So in certain airports
especially, I think it's. Oh God, where they have the.
Ramp. When it's the ramp, you get some
real speed down there. Malaga airport when you get out
of that one. Really good R.E.M. there.
It's so silly that I know all the ramps because I ride my
suitcase. Such a new one for remote.
I mean, that is just brilliant. Yeah, remote, if you're
listening to this, get me some new wheels.
We need to take it in for a service.
You take it in for a service. Grease them up.
You'll end up with being sent a remote with sort of.
Tractor, truck, no tires. I can ride outside.
It's more difficult on tarmac, but through airports.
Believe some more. Oh my God, are you a good Packer
or a bad Packer? My message would say a bad
Packer. I'd say I'm in a fishing Packer.
OK, but do you lay your clothes out beautifully with tissue
paper or? Whoa, do you?
Do you do that? No, I don't.
Do people do that? I think some people do with.
Tissue paper. Yeah, I just layer a plastic
laundry bag down and I roll everything all together and
nothing gets creased. It's brilliant.
Yeah, I hear that. But I'm always gonna, I'm, I'm
always gonna steam it as soon as I get out.
Exactly. Anyway, so then it doesn't
matter if it's creased. Would you say you've got
anything in particular in excess in your wardrobe or is that
shoes everything? Shoes, shoes and T-shirts a lot
a. Lot how many Pair of shoes?
Pairs of shoes, including sneakers and books.
More than 100, yeah, more, more than more than 100 in my house
here in up north, more than 100 T-shirts.
So there's I have 4 rails so I have my dressing room upstairs
there's four rails of T-shirts, but then are.
They hanging? Yeah, they're hanging so you can
see them. Four colors, yeah.
So I have whites, black and then colors.
So you're pretty organized, Yeah.
But then it can so quickly get destroyed.
I can't tell you how quickly because when I'm usually if I'm
in a rush, I'm like, and then it's a long process of putting
all back on. So that some, some people have
walked into my room, especially when it's tour time and I've
been come back for like an hour or something and I've left
something somewhere they'll look in my wardrobe like and they'll
be like, what the hell has happened?
The Poltergeist I. Don't know.
Absolutely not. Came in because he couldn't find
a purple T-shirt. Don't.
Know where? He is don't know where he's got.
He always jumps out. Guilty secret.
Most expensive item of clothing you've ever bought.
Don't have to give me the price tag.
You're wincing. Yeah, there's been, there was
one that was, I wouldn't say it's the most expensive.
That's not jewellery, right? No, no, this is, can I say, the
one that's the most ridiculous for what it was?
Yeah, There's this hockey shirt from Chrome Hearts.
But out of interest, you keep annual accounts for your
clothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, because I guess you can deduct that.
My dad keeps annual accounts. He saw it.
Good on you, Dad. It was supposed to be for a
music video with French Montana in New York.
So when flew out and I was like, oh, that's really cool, send
that with me, send it, send it, send it sent all got sent.
And then I forgot my chain. Actually, the one time that I
needed the chain because it's French Montana and he has
thousands of chains and and you didn't go out?
No, and I actually went to Chrome and bought these two tiny
little things just to have something there.
But I also bought that top and that was the one time at the
tail I was just like, what have I?
What have I done that for? And did you feel too embarrassed
to? No, I was like, I'm gonna wear.
I wanted it because it fit the outfit so well.
I was like, that was a bad idea. I was for what it was like I've
spent that on jackets or some nights something that I'm going
to wear again, again and again and again.
But when, yeah, when that one I was like, it's just a it's just
a T-shirt and it really. Oh.
Ouch. I mean, you clearly travel a
lot, Yeah, And love fashion. Is there any destination you've
been to that sort of has surprised you by the local
fashion that you've Paris loved? I love the way everyone dresses
in Paris. It's just chic.
Yeah. Oh, I can feel a whole new era
of chicness coming on. Can you feel it in your?
I can. I can.
I can you. Excited for me I'm.
Really excited for you. I think we're going to have a
whole different conversation in about 12 months time.
Yeah, because like when you're talking about something like
what are the brands, I'm like, I don't know yet.
I don't know what my favorite ones because I haven't tried
them all. Do you ever buy vintage OH?
Yeah, yeah. So I actually bought a lot of
vintage stuff before I went on telly and stuff.
I was obsessed with this shop in Stoke and I used to go in and
just buy loads of at the time that the thing was like Ralphie
T-shirt by the big massive puffy Ralphie T-shirts.
Yeah, there's this one that I had this green greenie slash
teal, weird color, but I used to wear that far too much.
But yeah, vintage stuff. I've actually started buying
more vintage stuff now because of golf.
And where do you go to favorite haunts?
So there's this guy who plugs me on on Instagram.
I mean, he, he, I don't know where he, I don't even know
where he gets them from, but he just sends them.
And I was just like he sends, he sends like football boots, He
sends golf stuff, like all vintage sports gear he can get
his hands on. Brilliant.
So yeah, he sends, he sends it through to me.
But yeah. Cool.
OK, some quick fire questions. What fashion advice would you
give to your 20 year old self? Don't buy that.
Which fashion trend would you most like to see make a
comeback? Big flares that you're going to
see them on stage. I think I am.
Shoulder pads. What fashion or beauty trend
would you consign to Room 101? Oh, Bob, Bob, Bob.
Room 101 is where you bend things.
Which trend? Yeah, skinny jeans like
Sprayons. Oh yeah, your last impulse by.
Probably this morning a a vintage golf jacket, but it was
I saw it and it had to be both. Your views on tattoos?
Hate them? Look.
Beauty or well-being treatment you couldn't give up could be
your hair, It could be. Your hair, couldn't it?
Yeah, my hair sponge. High end or High Street?
High end, yeah. Crocs cute or puke?
Cute cute. I haven't got a pair, but
they're they're right. Sambas or gazelles?
Gazelles. Cargos or chinos?
Also the Crocs look you gave me then was mental.
Are you like wow respect? I haven't got a pair of Crocs.
I'm a Berkey boy, but I I don't mind them.
OK, I'll give you that. Cargos or chinos?
Cargos. Sports Lux It.
Could be chinos next. Though I could.
Do you know what I think it's about to be chinos?
Yeah. Sports Lux or Rock'n'roll?
Rock'n'roll. Savile Row or GORP call.
Savile Row. Double breasted.
Single breasted. Single.
Trend or style? Style.
Colour or monochrome? Colour.
Pattern or plain? Play playing.
Let's go play. In transition I would say
hoarder or editor. Hoarder.
Charity shop or resale? Charity shop.
Boxers or briefs? Boxers.
Budgie smugglers or boards? Budgie smugglers or board
shorts? Board shorts.
Beanie or baseball cap? Baseball cap.
And finally, at the end of the day, what do you or don't you
wear in bed? I don't wear anything in bed.
Whereas this has been so much fun, thank.
You you've been a. Brilliant guest.
I've had such a laugh. I really have.
Thank you so much. Thank you.
Loved it. I've really loved it.