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And as an added bonus, you can 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,120 use the code Amanda at checkout for an amazing 70% off your 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:54,000 plan. Today I'm going on a style 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,280 journey with digital creator and author Lydia Milan. 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,960 Hello and welcome, Lydia. Hello, thank you so much for 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,160 having me. I have been holding off saying 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,800 how grateful I am to be here all morning, but thank you so much 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,600 for having. Me, it's a pleasure. 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,760 I mean, it's so lovely to meet you when you, you know, when you 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,680 see someone online so much and you do slightly feel like you 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,520 know them and we've never met before. 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,600 And you have a whopping 3,000,000 plus plus plus 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,400 followers on your combined social channels. 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,160 And I, I just, you were one of the very early adopters to 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:39,920 YouTube and content creation and I would just love to understand 27 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,800 what that journey was like. Well, I have to start off by 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,040 saying we haven't met, but I have been a huge fan of yours 29 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,160 for so long. You're absolutely correct in 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,800 what you've just said. I've been doing this for a very, 31 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,760 very long time and one of my favorite memories is me 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,000 scuttling around London Fashion Week, going to fashion Scout 33 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 shows, dreaming of an invite to one of your shows. 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,800 I used to go to Harvey Nichols and try on all of your clothes 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,000 in there. And so this is, I don't think 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,680 that Lydia from back then would believe that I'm sat here now 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,039 with you so genuinely. Well, welcome. 38 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:12,480 This is a This is a moment for me. 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,480 I think I need to take a moment to just take it all in. 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,560 Yeah, yeah. But yes, it was very, very, I 41 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,240 was very much, very early to the blogging side of things. 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,760 I would say YouTube came a little bit later for me because 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,080 I think I needed to build up my confidence in myself. 44 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,640 So I was a Blogger for the first sort of few years. 45 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:34,400 I've been doing it about just shy of 15 years. 46 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,720 Which in the context of social media is a long time. 47 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:45,520 Yes, because Instagram broke in 2010 was. 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,720 It yes. So before Instagram, there was 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,680 something called Lookbook and that was where I took my first 50 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,880 tentative steps into the sort of social media sharing side of 51 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,720 things. But if we want to go way back 52 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,480 before, I mean, even when I was 16 and I always talk about this 53 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,840 and no one has ever heard of the websites that I'm talking about. 54 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,000 But there was this thing called Homestead and you could build 55 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,320 your own website. And so I. 56 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,360 Look. Blankly at you don't worry, 57 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,400 everyone does. But it, I used to code my own 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,840 websites and I just used to take pictures on a digital camera 59 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,760 when I was hanging out with my friends and, and document 60 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,720 things. And I, you know, that's years 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,600 and years ago. And, and then when Lookbook came 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,360 around, it was sort of like, ah, it gives a little bit of like a 63 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,880 algorithmic feed and that kind of thing. 64 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,520 And so I, I started building an audience there quite quickly. 65 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,320 And then it was Twitter and which is I don't actually use 66 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,800 anymore, which is, I don't use Lookbook either, but I remember 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,960 Instagram when it wasn't a photo sharing app. 68 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,320 I remember when it was just an editor. 69 00:03:54,480 --> 00:04:00,840 When do you think you really nailed your content style DNAI? 70 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Have to be honest, I don't know if you ever feel like you're, 71 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,920 you're nailing it. It's, it's such a, a bizarre 72 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:12,520 industry that moves so quickly. And so I've I've learnt that 73 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,959 sharing things that I really enjoy sharing is the key to 74 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:22,800 making it a really enjoyable process and not worrying too 75 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:29,160 much about making it perfect and making it cohesive. 76 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,360 Just I like taking photos of nature, but I also like outfits. 77 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,760 I also like little bits and pieces like that. 78 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,320 So just marrying that all together has more than anything 79 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,360 just been something that I've played around with and explored. 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:50,200 Now, your husband Ali is also a digital creator and I noticed 81 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:55,840 your feeds. It's like a Mr. and misses it. 82 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:58,920 It's similar, but his is more masculine. 83 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,560 Obviously yours is more feminine. 84 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,080 Do you, do you spend hours talking about what you're 85 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,640 creating and how you're posting it? 86 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,040 And you know, is he a sounding board to you? 87 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,120 Well, first of all, I am truly honoured that you think that 88 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:19,000 mine looks like his because he his creativity is another level. 89 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Like he is a pure through and through creative. 90 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,760 His vision, his ability to capture things is so inspiring 91 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,720 to me. Do you ever pinch some of his 92 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,720 photos? I think we do a little bit of 93 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,160 both for each other. Like he'll, he'll take, he likes 94 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,480 to copy my outfits, so he'll see me put together an outfit and 95 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,200 he'll go go into his dressing room and change and then come 96 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,560 out in the same outfit. In fact, someone spotted. 97 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,840 Hopefully similar. Not the same. 98 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:44,880 Not the same in your gym leggings. 99 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,760 Someone saw us at the garden centre recently and sent me a 100 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,400 message on Instagram to say I loved your matching outfits, 101 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,640 that I hadn't even realized. I was like, oh God, we aren't 102 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,400 matching outfits. But no, I think we very much 103 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,000 share a lot of the same values and sentiments and we enjoy so 104 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,080 much of the same. We're very similar in energy, I 105 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,040 would say both Aries and we're like best friends. 106 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,520 So we, we, we enjoy doing so much together that I think that 107 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,480 that would be like a natural progression. 108 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,000 And I think our evolution online has been quite similar as well. 109 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,560 And so we have conversations. We love being creative together 110 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,840 and having ideas and changing the way that we create our 111 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:30,520 content. This year for us, we're really 112 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,720 focusing on enjoying the moments and capturing them in the 113 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,680 moment. I think over the years content 114 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,920 creation has been about volume and getting lots of shoots out 115 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,800 and things like that, whereas now if we're going somewhere, we 116 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,880 want to capture a moment and a moment that we're really 117 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,160 enjoying. And that's been really lovely, 118 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,280 seeing our content evolve in that way and it feels a lot more 119 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:53,960 authentic, which is a huge focus for us as well. 120 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,640 Now, I've noticed that the quality of your photos is 121 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,160 phenomenal. What are you? 122 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,560 What are you using to to take them? 123 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,600 A very loving husband. What? 124 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,480 What is? What is he using in terms of 125 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,240 camera? That is definitely a an Ally 126 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,840 Gordon question. He has a Sony A7R Mark 127 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,280 something. He's definitely the. 128 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,840 So it it's not the good old iPhone. 129 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,720 Sometimes on videos. We're trying to do videos a lot 130 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,200 more in the moment with with our iPhones and they're generally 131 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,960 better received. I mean, the whole process of 132 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:38,360 content creation is, is it's extended, it's in, it's 133 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,640 enormous. You know, I've talked to content 134 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,640 creators who say that'll take 500 images to get one. 135 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Can you talk me through your process? 136 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:54,440 So if a brand has approached you to do some content, how do you 137 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,000 how do you go about it? Well, I really like there to be 138 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,280 like an authentic, authentic relationship there as much as 139 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,280 possible with with the brands that I work with. 140 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,760 So that we both understand because it is a collaborative 141 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,160 thing. I think a lot of the time people 142 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,320 think that it might just be old, here's this and you go and do it 143 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,520 or you have to create what the brand would want. 144 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,760 And the thing about this industry that I love so much is, 145 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,760 is that it's that collaboration of the two. 146 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,200 So we're sort of interpreting this product, what the brand 147 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,800 stands for in our own personal style way. 148 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,960 And so I really, I, I, I like that, that freshness that we get 149 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:39,919 to to bring to things. But I generally, I treat 150 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:43,960 everything like it's a bit of a, a new challenge and a new way to 151 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,240 be creative or try something different. 152 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Yeah, I think it keeps me on my toes. 153 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,440 What does your team look like? Because obviously we just see 154 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,560 this gorgeous glossy Lydia and knowing behind the scenes as I 155 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:02,480 do what what a what? What's your team? 156 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,920 It's a very, very small team, a very small team of very, very 157 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,280 lovely people and that is exactly how I like it. 158 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,760 It feels really calm and peaceful, and they're all 159 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,120 invested in weighs so much more than just financially. 160 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,200 We're friends. We're we, we really care about 161 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,600 each other. And my best friend is my manager 162 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,640 and she has been for nearly nearly nine years. 163 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,200 And so that's really fun. So you've got a manager, you've 164 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,160 got a publish. Yeah, I've got a publicist as 165 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:41,760 well, and she's the the, the woman that I didn't know I 166 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,920 always needed. She's just been incredible to to 167 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,560 become part of the team and she's just, I felt like she's 168 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:55,560 like my fairy godmother. She's just wonderful. 169 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,960 Are there any brands that you've never worked with that you would 170 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,480 love to work with? Oh my gosh, of course, yes. 171 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,800 Like, Oh my goodness. We've got to put it out there, 172 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,240 Lydia. That's very true. 173 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,240 I, I, I've always wanted to do some kind of, because I do a lot 174 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,920 of design collaboration work that's been at the forefront of 175 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,040 what I've been doing for the last few years and I really 176 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,360 enjoy it. And I've always wanted to do 177 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,920 something along the lines of jewelry. 178 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,760 So that's definitely something I want to put out there in the 179 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,040 world. And which jewelry brand would be 180 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,240 your dream jewelry brand to collaborate with? 181 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:28,560 It would have to be a British jeweler. 182 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,560 I have a very, very special place in my heart for Garrard. 183 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:37,120 I'm actually wearing one of their Tudor rose pieces here and 184 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,120 it's it's just a beautiful jewellers and they've really put 185 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,080 women at the helm of what they're doing as well. 186 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,600 There's a lot of really, really powerful women behind Garrard at 187 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,280 the moment and I think that's really exciting. 188 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,160 So definitely if I'm putting it out there, that's that's 189 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:51,600 something. I would. 190 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,360 And the heritage is exactly extraordinary, isn't it? 191 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,400 All of the tiaras, it's it's quite something, yeah. 192 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:01,880 And fashion brands. Fashion brands again, I really 193 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,440 love championing British brands wherever I can and so working 194 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:12,760 alongside brands that are designed, produced and really 195 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,400 championed here is definitely what I would love to do more. 196 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,440 Because it's a challenge. This is a relatively small 197 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,000 market and I know you focus really on on the luxury end, you 198 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,480 know, that's part of your content DNA really isn't it? 199 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,320 And you know, it's a challenging market. 200 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:39,240 So lovely that you're out there with your 3,000,000 plus 201 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,520 followers championing that. So any, any smaller British 202 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,640 brands that have are coming to your attention that you think, 203 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,200 gosh, they, they deserve to go the distance. 204 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,160 Yes. I don't know if I would say that 205 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,320 they are a small brand because they have such incredible 206 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,920 heritage, but I think we're going to see a lot of exciting 207 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,840 pieces from Purdy. I think they're really going 208 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,640 through a change in their direction with their clothing. 209 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,760 They're much more country Outfitters before, whereas now 210 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,840 they're moving into some incredible pieces. 211 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,240 So definitely I'm excited by what I've seen from their look 212 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,960 books. Definitely. 213 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,880 That really is the luxury, luxury end. 214 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,880 I mean, I was talking to magazine editor recently on this 215 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,960 podcast and she was very complimentary of the role of 216 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,360 content creators because I think early days there was a there was 217 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:44,720 a tension between editors and content creators. 218 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,240 But now I think there's a real respect because you do different 219 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:55,280 things, you know, a fashion editor is creating a different 220 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,560 type of image to a content creator. 221 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:06,640 But I, I know how relentless it is because AI just don't produce 222 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,960 enough content myself. But and so, and I know the 223 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,280 demands of the algorithms and all of that. 224 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:19,360 Do you ever get stressed by it? And do you ever get sort of 225 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,280 content creation fatigue? Well, I think to your first 226 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,120 point about the, the tension that was there, I think that 227 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,120 that's, I think that was to be expected at the time because 228 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,240 definitely change is so it's so it's so concerning when it's 229 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,480 happening and seeing something change like that in this new 230 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,840 industry come about. So I've always taken the the 231 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,520 thought process of I understand that that must have been really 232 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,120 tough. I think seeing how so many 233 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,080 magazines now have adapted, evolved, the type of content 234 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,520 that they're doing now is so unique and incredible. 235 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,720 And I'm really, really passionate about print 236 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,360 publication still. I'm still very much a magazine 237 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,520 reader. And so I'm, I'm someone that's 238 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,640 always kind of championed and flown the flag with that one, 239 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:12,240 but I am, I wouldn't ever say nowadays that I get stressed 240 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,280 with it because I just always feel so lucky. 241 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,040 I honestly, genuinely mean it when I say I feel like the 242 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,720 luckiest girl in the world that I get to do this is my job. 243 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,120 And I wouldn't want to steal that joy from myself by getting 244 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,600 stressed. So I really try to manage that 245 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,680 and be realistic. And just one of the things that 246 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,200 I've tried to do this year is learn more into the 247 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,040 inevitabilities of life. So I used to think every piece 248 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:44,920 of content had to be shot with Maldives level sunshine and 249 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,120 beauty and we live in England. And that's just setting myself 250 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,400 up for disappointment. And so now when I maybe have a 251 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,920 sheet planned or I have a piece of content that I need to 252 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,040 deliver by a deadline, I look at the weather and I factor it into 253 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,400 my content and I try and make it part of the story. 254 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Because I realized that fighting against the inevitabilities of 255 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,000 the seasons, like the season that we're in now, it's just 256 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,160 going to make myself more miserable. 257 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,720 And so I was shooting a piece of content the other day and it, it 258 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,640 gave me this idea to create something almost Beatrix Potter 259 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,680 esque. I don't know if you remember 260 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,200 the, the series. And there's, I've always got 261 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,560 the, the scene of Beatrix Potter painting on the the hills. 262 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,400 And then the rain starts coming and she runs in with Peter 263 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,320 Rabbit and she's got her easel under her arm. 264 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,200 It's so magical. And that I was really inspired 265 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,840 by that. And so I leant into the fact 266 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,560 that it was raining. And so I, I try my best to not 267 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,400 steal the joy of what is a incredible industry to be a part 268 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,960 of. And like any job, every job has 269 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,040 its drawbacks. But I think in my industry, 270 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:54,280 particular, in particular, they are very, very minor in 271 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,240 comparison to the wonderful things that we get to do. 272 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,440 So I wouldn't want to say that it ever gets beyond, you know, a 273 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,800 mild, I mean are. You one of these planners that 274 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,880 plans the next chapter or are you just going with the flow? 275 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,840 Like you said, I love this industry so much so I really 276 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,040 hope that I'm well into my 70s and I'm still uploading videos 277 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,960 onto YouTube and. God, I hope you are too. 278 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,320 Because we need, we need people of all ages, yes, to be 279 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,960 inspirational. 100% and I really see a wave of those different 280 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,240 age groups happening right now. We've got Joe Good who's 281 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,360 creating the most incredible content I love. 282 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,440 Joe good. I just love him. 283 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,320 Absolutely doing him. And then we've got Nadine 284 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,400 Baggett and the beauty side of things. 285 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,520 I just think Nadine is phenomenal and such a powerhouse 286 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,640 as well. And there's Paula Hill House 287 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,720 Vintage. So I think seeing all of these 288 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,360 different women doing fantastic things at different points in 289 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,960 their lives, I really hoped that I'll be one of them because I 290 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:03,680 started in my early 20s and I'm now moving into my late 30s. 291 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,920 And so I do want to be doing it then. 292 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:14,480 And I and I, you're a. Child Now I I know the 293 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,480 experience hasn't always been fabulous and you've had your 294 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,079 fair share of trolling and how how do you handle that? 295 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:25,560 Personally, I think. It's like what I was saying 296 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,600 earlier, I think every side of every industry has its 297 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,040 difficulties and it would be unrealistic for me to expect 298 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,960 that everyone was going to, to love my content. 299 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,560 And I think I've come such a long way. 300 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,160 Anyone that's watched me for a while and watch my videos, No, 301 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,440 no knows. I did struggle in the in the 302 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,880 early days with it. And I think that that was 303 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,120 because I, I didn't know who I was and I didn't trust myself. 304 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,120 And I've gone on a really lovely journey over the last few years 305 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:58,800 to really learn the person that I am and, and the things that I 306 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,840 value and believe in my intentions. 307 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,000 And I talk about all of this in my book Evergreen, because I, I 308 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,600 really wanted anyone that ever felt like that about themselves, 309 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,440 that didn't know themselves and didn't trust themselves to know 310 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,760 that there's ways that you can find that quiet confidence in 311 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,080 yourself. And now that I feel like I'm on 312 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,880 that journey and I'm quite comfortable in who I am and I 313 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,960 know the person that I am, that when people maybe don't agree or 314 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,240 don't like my content, I'm OK with it. 315 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:36,440 And I'm I can understand that some items or some pieces of 316 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,120 content they may not resonate with, but I hope that the next 317 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:40,640 piece will and that they'll enjoy that. 318 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,200 And I try not to make it too personal because most of the 319 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,920 time it isn't about me. Most of the times it's just 320 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:51,040 because I've not met their expectations of me and that 321 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:57,280 makes it feel far less personal. The social media world is pretty 322 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:02,200 much unregulated and you're, I mean, you're immersed in it. 323 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,920 Do you think there should be regulations? 324 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,640 So I would probably say that I think we're incredibly good at 325 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:15,160 preparing children nowadays for moving into work life, after 326 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,840 school, university life. But I think that there is this 327 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,400 new element to potentially the curriculum, potentially 328 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,960 parenting, where we teach children safety online and 329 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:32,600 almost online etiquette. Because nowadays everything we 330 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,760 do lives on. And I have definitely learned 331 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,200 that many of my outfits I would like to scrub from the Internet. 332 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,120 It's not. Tomorrow's chip paper is it. 333 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:43,200 As I was growing up, it was oh, doesn't matter. 334 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,920 It's tomorrow's chip paper being, you know, a picture in 335 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,160 the paper. Exactly. 336 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,240 Future employers can Google, they can search, they can check 337 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,040 your social media platforms. And I think preparing children 338 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,520 to show the same level of kindness that they show in 339 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:03,960 classes, in their workplaces, in clubs, that they show their 340 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,120 fellow children to do so on the Internet as well. 341 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:11,440 I think that's a really, really positive step and would be a 342 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,440 real asset to the curriculum. Because I think at the moment a 343 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,800 lot of people are going on the Internet and not understanding 344 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,200 that they're seeing things that they maybe don't want to to see. 345 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,680 Or shouldn't be seeing quite frankly as a certain age 100%. 346 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,800 And also they don't understand that they can curate their 347 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,560 feeds, their followers, their, their following and 348 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,960 understanding how much responsibility they have and 349 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,400 also power in their, their online world, but also making 350 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,960 the right choices beforehand and when moving into the digital 351 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,240 space, because it is something that is almost now part of an 352 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,320 online CV. And so that would be really, I 353 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,320 think that could be really, really helpful to help bring 354 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,600 something like that to the curriculum nowadays. 355 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,800 Now today we're going on a style journey, so tell me about what 356 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,000 you're wearing. Well, OK, I'm very excited by 357 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,320 this. This is a new dress. 358 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,320 Very pretty by the way. Well. 359 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,960 Thank you very much. I am, I really wanted what I was 360 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,120 wearing today because I'm obviously sat here with you and 361 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:19,800 I am so incredibly, I'm such a fan of yours. 362 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,440 I wanted it to be a bit of a celebration of of British 363 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,480 brands, so I'm wearing an Amelia Wickstead I. 364 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,800 Thought you were. I'm a big fan of Amelia 365 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:32,040 Wickstead and I'm also wearing a bespoke made shirt from my 366 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,120 Taylor sister and Hicks. So I've got a tailor in woven 367 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,760 and so this is fitted to my shoulders because I've got quite 368 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,600 broad shoulders and I've never had a shirt like it. 369 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,120 So it's it's very, it always just finishes off an outfit 370 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:48,200 really nicely. My shoes are Emmy London. 371 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,160 I'm a big fan of Emmys and I love her shoes very, very much. 372 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,720 My coat that I was wearing but I'm not wearing now is Holland 373 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,000 Cooper, and that's their great coat and I think it's one of 374 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,920 their best pieces, so. So all British. 375 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:04,640 As much as possible. I mean, my my handbag is through 376 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,520 a British reseller, so I think that. 377 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,680 Ah. Yeah, I'll, I'll take that one. 378 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,440 Which British reseller, actually? 379 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,720 Luxury promise. Yes, because it's a beautiful 380 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,120 little Hermes. Yes, vintage Pochette, Yeah. 381 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:22,240 Gorgeous, gorgeous. So you grew up in Hertfordshire? 382 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,880 Yes, I believe. Was it a very rural life growing 383 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,880 up? So in the early days it was very 384 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,800 rural. I grew up in a place called 385 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,960 Chorleywood and I went to school there and that was where my 386 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,000 parents lived until I was about 5:00. 387 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,560 So I always have these bizarre memories of my dad taking me on 388 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,320 walks through the woods there because our house was right next 389 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:50,320 to a really beautiful woodland. But when my parents split up, my 390 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,160 dad moved into a very, very lovely lads pad in Northwood and 391 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,360 my mum moved into a house in Croxley Green. 392 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:05,920 And so slightly less village, more town, village. 393 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,600 Yeah, a little bit more. And that was, that was my life 394 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,760 until I was about 19. And then I sort of set off on 395 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,840 some travels and found my husband and we lived in Milton 396 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,680 Keynes for four years together and then stumbled across a house 397 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,040 in the middle of nowhere in Northamptonshire. 398 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,760 And we didn't even see it in the daylight. 399 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,880 And little did we know that that would be the place where we 400 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:40,000 really found our connection with nature because it's partially 401 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,800 off grid. There's no, we don't have our 402 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,120 own mains water supply. It comes from the local farm. 403 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,960 We don't have our own gas sewage. 404 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,920 So it's a really different way of life for us. 405 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,920 But it's there's been this sort of threading through of nature. 406 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,560 But I really found my place with it when we moved. 407 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,240 Gorgeous, were you very aware of your parents style growing up? 408 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,680 I don't. I think I was aware of it 409 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,520 growing up, but now I think I just. 410 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,520 I cannot believe how stylish my grandparents, my mum and dad 411 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,240 were. When I look back at pictures, 412 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,440 their outfits now I would I I wear them, I wear the same 413 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,320 things. Lovely, lovely. 414 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:26,080 But do you remember that first moment that you put something on 415 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,720 and it felt really good and it changed how you felt about 416 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,360 yourself? Do you know what that's that was 417 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:37,120 something I thought a lot about and I don't actually think I 418 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:42,760 fully understood the impact of a good outfit, no matter what that 419 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,760 is, whether that's a comfy pair of pajamas or whether that's an 420 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,640 outfit like I'm wearing today. I don't think I understood the 421 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:55,560 actual impact on my well-being until COVID. 422 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,880 And when there was no reason to go anywhere and we were all sort 423 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,720 of faced with that opportunity to just stay in our pajamas all 424 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,560 day and getting up and not getting dressed. 425 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,360 I quickly realized how much of an impact that had on my 426 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:13,920 well-being. And now this is something in a 427 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,920 lesson that I again talk about in my book, Evergreen, but also 428 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,560 practice daily is this element of taking real care in what I'm 429 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:28,000 wearing on a day-to-day basis, whether that is my pajamas or my 430 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,200 outfit for the day. And it shows a level of 431 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,280 investment in myself. It's less about other people and 432 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:39,200 what they think about my outfit. It's more about the investment 433 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,480 in myself that I'm making in what I'm wearing. 434 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,640 And it shows. It's almost telling myself that 435 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,760 I'm worth dressing up for, if that makes sense. 436 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:54,640 I, I, I love that. I mean, were you a rebellious 437 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,520 dresser as a teenager? Did you go through that? 438 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,360 Do you want me to get out the picture of me with a mullet? 439 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:05,000 Because I'll do it, I'll do it. Would that fall into your worst 440 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,320 fashion moment, do you think? Well, like we've discussed, the 441 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:13,440 Internet never goes away when you've posted outfits for 15 442 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,720 years. So I have many, many of those 443 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,560 times I wish I could just say no, No, actually, I've never had 444 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,160 that. But yes, I think this was 445 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,280 actually before the, the Internet and it's one of those 446 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,080 things that there's only so often that you can bring 447 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,360 something like this out and really celebrate it. 448 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,440 Otherwise you'll just feel terrible about it. 449 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,640 But yes, I, I basically, I got myself a boyfriend when I was 450 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:43,960 about 18 and he was so cool and he had tattoos. 451 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,520 He was a bit alternative and I'd fancied him for a very, very 452 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,360 long time and I couldn't believe it when he actually showed 453 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,960 interest in me. And so I just wanted him to 454 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,000 think I was cool. And I said to my dad, I said, 455 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,680 oh, I'd like to get my haircut. And so I think my dad thinking 456 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,840 she's 18 years old, I can take her and leave her at the 457 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,120 hairdressers and it'll be fine. And when he turned up, I had a 458 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:10,000 blonde mullet and bless him, my dad, my dad is the the softest, 459 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,080 kindest human being. And I said, dad, I think it's 460 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,400 the best haircut I have ever had. 461 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,800 And he just went. So was it literally had you had 462 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,240 the? Business in the front, party in 463 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,720 the back, it was all of that. It was very, I mean I will send 464 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,080 you the picture so that you can see it because I think, I think 465 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,640 saying it and actually seeing it is 2 very different experiences. 466 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,720 Now, I believe you then spent some time in Ibiza. 467 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,760 Yes, I did. What was Ibiza Lydia wearing? 468 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,000 Were you all boho? Yes, the majority of the time. 469 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,480 I think you naturally adopt the way of life in Ibiza. 470 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,360 I'm sure you must spend a lot of time there because there's 471 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,240 something incredibly magnetic about Ibiza. 472 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,800 I first went on holiday with there with there with a friend 473 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,720 when I was 17. And I just never and never 474 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,800 forgot it. And so after breaking up with a 475 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,600 boyfriend, I was completely heartbroken. 476 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,560 I thought, you know what, I'm going to, I'm going to go and 477 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,560 I'm going to do a few seasons and see how I get on. 478 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:16,800 And I loved it. It was so much fun and I learnt 479 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,880 so much about myself. I learnt so much about what it 480 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,160 really truly means to stand on your own 2 feet. 481 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,080 And it was where I really discovered my joy for, for 482 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,280 working. I love working hard. 483 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,280 I. Mean that's the best life lesson 484 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,320 there is. Yeah, wherever you get that 485 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,280 lesson. It's so true, so true. 486 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,600 And I, I just, it was such a wonderful way of life and I 487 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,600 ended up spending 4/4 summers out there and I had a really 488 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,640 lovely life when I was out there as well because I ended up 489 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,400 meeting my then boyfriend and we had a little Vespa out there and 490 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,960 I had a pink helmet and he'd take me to work on it every day. 491 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,520 And it was. We had a real lovely quality of 492 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,720 life. And work. 493 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,440 What were you doing there? So I did many different things 494 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,280 when I was there. Some of my favorites, I worked 495 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,520 on the bar, I don't even think it's around anymore, but I was 496 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,960 one of the barmaids at a place called Plastic, which was a bit 497 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,520 iconic back in the day. But I also worked at Ibiza Rocks 498 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,800 in their shop for a while. I did a bit of modelling as well 499 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680 whilst I was out there. I did the parades which was so 500 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,520 much fun because that was like a big group of your best friends 501 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,680 and you just got all dressed up and just went walking around. 502 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,760 It was so much fun and your time. 503 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,240 Favorite all time favorite Ibiza look would have been what? 504 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,800 Time favorite Ibiza look the thing that I loved about Ibiza 505 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,960 was like you find these hidden gems of boutiques just in back 506 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:46,840 streets, whether it's in Ibiza town or in Santi Ellaria, like 507 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,440 it's just so many different places and you'd find 508 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,160 beautifully made trousers the most incredible linen. 509 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,080 So I think I wouldn't be able to pin down one. 510 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,480 There were so many facets to, to my style whilst I was out there 511 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,560 as well, that it was just every day you were discovering 512 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,160 something new. And I and I really loved the 513 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,040 laid back sense of style out there. 514 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,200 And it's just, it's you're making me miss it now and. 515 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,320 Do you still have any of those pieces? 516 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Gosh, I don't know if I if I do, I don't know if I do, you know? 517 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,720 Because it strikes me that your style now is very polished, very 518 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:35,200 luxury, very quiet luxury actually, you know, but but no, 519 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,680 it, it, it does. So I wonder if if you were going 520 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,760 back to visit Ibiza now, would you, how do you think you would 521 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,480 dress as Lydia now on holiday in Ibiza? 522 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,160 That's. A very good question. 523 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,040 Well, luckily for me, I still get to go back and enjoy Ibiza 524 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,360 very much. I went and stayed in at Zara 525 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,320 recently and I think you naturally adopt the influence of 526 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,240 the island. It is so special and I think 527 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,760 that it wouldn't be too dissimilar. 528 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,800 I just think it'd probably be cleaner lines. 529 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,600 So a lot, a lot of linen shorts and wide leg trousers and linen 530 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:22,120 shirts and really natural oatmeal tones and neutrals and 531 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,200 just a lot of natural fibres because that's what I love in 532 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,200 summer. Nothing too busy, nothing too 533 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,320 out there. I think that's the fun thing 534 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,720 about fashion is taking the influence maybe of where you're 535 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,160 going and marrying that with your personal style is, is quite 536 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,440 exciting. I like. 537 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,800 That, I mean, have you ever been a lover of strong colour? 538 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,640 Because I, you know, think of you and your grid and it's all 539 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:54,800 lovely shades of neutrals and naturals and, and I don't think 540 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,880 I've ever seen you in strong colours sort of primaries. 541 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,560 I tend to save strong colours for big moments. 542 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:13,440 I think I like to, if I want to wear an outfit that I feel says 543 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,360 something, then I'll wear a nice bright colour. 544 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,520 So at Ascot last year I wore a really lovely blue dress made by 545 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,960 Sassy Wholeford and we actually worked to bring it to life 546 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,880 together and I just felt incredible in it. 547 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,080 And I think it's special occasions like that. 548 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,240 I really like to do something different where I can. 549 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,280 And then when I went to the Glamour Women of the Year awards 550 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,480 last year, I wore a bright red Sassy Wholeford dress and 551 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,560 jacket. And so I do. 552 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,320 But I save it for those moments when I I want to. 553 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,440 I want to make a bit of a a statement or an impact with my 554 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,400 style. Yeah, let's talk about bags for 555 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,080 a minute. I've noticed you've got some 556 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,320 real beauties. Do you? 557 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,800 Do you consciously source some of those, let's say Hermes bags 558 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,440 from vintage Yes outlets? Yes I do. 559 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,720 I have AI, think I have 3 vintage bags. 560 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,520 I don't have a big handbag collection, not anymore anyway. 561 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,960 I used to have 75 handbags. I know I was. 562 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,960 AI was a big handbag collector and I think. 563 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,640 And were they all designer bags or were they? 564 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:28,320 Did they span the the spectrum? So I, I, I've always had a 565 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,680 passion for well made bags and I think. 566 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,040 Does that mean expensive? Sometimes I think, although 567 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,960 nowadays I really feel like there are so many brands that 568 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,920 are doing incredible things and making incredible quality brand 569 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,440 bag collections and that's something that I'm working on 570 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,320 myself at the moment. I'm working with Fairfax and 571 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,960 Favour to bring a really different feel to their bags and 572 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,040 I think that nowadays it doesn't necessarily mean that you can't 573 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,120 have a well made bag, but I was always really into designer bags 574 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,440 and I and I worked really hard when I was at university. 575 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,920 I had three jobs and I bought myself a Mulberry bag for for 576 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,400 all of my hard work at university. 577 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,280 And I think it was a love affair that spanned a long time. 578 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,000 But I think as with anything, what I realized was that less is 579 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,800 more and I wanted to have a really special small collection 580 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,760 of well chosen bags and whether that is a vintage Kelly from oh 581 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,520 gosh, I think it's the nine. I think it's in 1970, I think 582 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,679 it's from, which is just beautiful in the beautiful Rouge 583 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,239 age. So it's a real testament to the 584 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,440 heritage of the brand. And then my more recent vintage 585 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,960 purchase, which is the candy Pochette, which is 20 years old, 586 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,320 just about vintage. But I really like that and I 587 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,280 really like the elements and the intrigue that it brings to to my 588 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,840 outfits. But I choose wisely now and I 589 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,640 have a collection of about 15 bags now, which is still a lot 590 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,640 and I feel very grateful. But. 591 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,240 I don't think that's a crazy amount. 592 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,920 And what happened to the other 60 then? 593 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,360 So I sold some and chose to invest in the bags that I have 594 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,440 now and but a lot of them I did auction off as well. 595 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,640 Most recently I auctioned one of my Fendi Peekaboos for the 596 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,960 King's Trust. Yeah, it was really wonderful. 597 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,680 Such a lovely day where I was actually hosting their lunch 598 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,200 with an old bag that they have in Scotland and the bag ended up 599 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,120 raising I think over 3000 lbs for for charity. 600 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,320 So that sounded like I was hosting it with an old bag. 601 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,600 No, no, it's called lunch with an old bag. 602 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,400 Oh, is it? Yes, it's it's about challenging 603 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,960 age stereotypes and. Brilliant. 604 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,920 I love. That it's a really, really 605 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,720 wonderful event. And so I was, I was very 606 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:53,200 fortunate to be a part of that and to be able to put my 607 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:58,560 handbags, which I've obviously curated over my career, put it 608 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,720 to some good use. How much did the event actually 609 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,480 raise I? Think it ended up being over 610 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,120 800,000. So it was. 611 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:09,240 Incredible from old bags. You've written this beautiful 612 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:14,080 book, Evergreen, and it's about discovering the joy of every 613 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,880 season. Is there any wisdom in that book 614 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,640 that could be applied towards your personal style? 615 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,840 Absolutely. And it, yeah, it was a, it was a 616 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,800 topic that I toyed a lot about including in the book, because 617 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,240 some people can think of these things as slightly more 618 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,520 superficial. However, I think the lessons 619 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,400 that I've learned about style and what I love about fashion 620 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,520 and style has evolved so much. And that shows throughout my 621 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,800 journey of, of my style, which is as we've talked about 622 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,440 documented online. And I, I wanted to share the 623 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,120 things that I love now. And I think I put now a lot more 624 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,600 emphasis on less so the, the monetary value of things and 625 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,680 more about the story and the, the craft and the history and 626 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,800 the talent that goes into clothing. 627 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,440 And I think sometimes we forget how long the process of making 628 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,280 a, a piece of clothing should actually take. 629 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,480 I've got a few items in my collection, one of which I 630 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:26,560 purchased the Harris Tweed on Harris from the loom shed of the 631 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,560 Weaver. Which is an extraordinary 632 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,880 experience. I've been up. 633 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,600 There life changing, yeah. It was the most incredible 634 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,280 experience seeing how this incredible fabric that is so 635 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,920 intricately made and we were looking at the fibres under a 636 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,480 microscope. And you see 50 different 637 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,680 colours. It's unbelievable. 638 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,920 Absolutely. It's extraordinary. 639 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,480 Yeah. Yeah. 640 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,760 And so taking then taking that fabric with me back home, taking 641 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,440 it to my tailor, deciding what we're going to make that into 642 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,920 the whole process really from, if you think about it, that from 643 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,560 rearing the lambs to produce the wool to shearing the wool to 644 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,920 weaving the the the yarns to then making it into a, an item 645 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,480 of clothing, it takes years almost. 646 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,720 And so I think that's where I put so much emphasis now, as 647 00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,120 much as possible. And of course, I also have to 648 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,120 understand that and acknowledge that not everyone can afford 649 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,600 that side of fashion as well. And so I try and keep my content 650 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,560 quite balanced. And if I'm buying an Amelia 651 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,040 Wickstead dress, I like to try as much as possible to find 652 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,680 timeless classic pieces that could maybe be bought for lower 653 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,960 price points. But I try and I try and hit as 654 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,720 many of those core values of my style where it's beautiful 655 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:54,440 fabrics, beautifully made British produce as much as 656 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,200 possible. But I'm sure you're, you're well 657 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,840 aware of the difficulties of hitting and the cost of those 658 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,400 things. And so it will, you usually have 659 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,000 to sacrifice on, on a one or two of those elements. 660 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,040 But I like to offer people the option, especially my audience, 661 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,200 because I know that some of them are busy mums working 9:00 to 662 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,120 5:00 and their, their disposable income isn't the same. 663 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,880 And so, but they still want that element of timeless style. 664 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,280 They don't want to be buying something new every week. 665 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,840 And so it's, it's definitely, it's a line I try to walk and 666 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,520 not sometime not, not everyone always understands that I'm 667 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,160 offering perhaps this, this lower price point, but I'm 668 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:42,720 trying to, to do my best in what I'm sharing online with the 669 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:46,120 values that I now hold. So I would definitely say that 670 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,520 in autumn that kind of encompasses a lot of my style 671 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,480 from the book within the book. Yeah, lovely, lovely. 672 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,240 Talk briefly about hair, makeup and manicures. 673 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,640 What is your approach? That's so funny that you've 674 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,240 asked that because I've, I've almost had a bit of a like a bit 675 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:12,080 of a change over the last year where I'm not wearing fake tan 676 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,280 as much, whereas I've worn fake tan for years and years and 677 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,320 years. And I've, I've stopped. 678 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,360 And I was actually saying to Charlotte earlier, I've reached 679 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,120 that point in the year where none of my foundations match my 680 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,640 skin tone because it has been winter for a very long time. 681 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,120 But yes, I've I've gone through a bit of a change and the fact 682 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:35,160 that you mentioned manicures because I this is my first time 683 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,240 not having gel nails in about. 10 years and you still have 684 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,000 nails. I still have nails. 685 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,080 Well, then my horse might change that very soon because he's 686 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,440 ripped a few of them off. But no, I, I do so many things 687 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:58,560 like outdoors and in nature. And I also value that time that 688 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,600 I was spending in the chair having my nails done. 689 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,720 And I was really, I was starting to resent it and I don't want to 690 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,560 spend 2 hours every week getting my nails done. 691 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,320 And so I'm trying at the moment. I describe it in my, in one of 692 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,800 my videos, I'm treating them like a melee washing machine. 693 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,320 Have you ever had a melee? Yes. 694 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,720 Absolutely. You know the best, they are the 695 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:23,920 best and they last the longest. But the reason they last the 696 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,960 longest is because you are involved in the maintenance 697 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,600 process. They're always beeping because 698 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,400 they need something done. And so that's what I'm doing 699 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,520 with my nails. Oh, I love that analogy. 700 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,640 I'm like I'm I have a brush in the shower with me that I can 701 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,120 brush my nails. I'm filing them when I'm 702 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,640 watching TV, trying to like habit stack it a little bit 703 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,880 because I don't want to lose that time. 704 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,960 I think I. Couldn't agree with you more. 705 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,480 It was during lockdown that I decided because I've always 706 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,840 loved a beautiful nail, it's important I talk with my hands. 707 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,240 And it was during lockdown that I decided I was going to learn 708 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:03,640 how to paint my nails really well myself and not have to 709 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,920 resent the time going to the manicure, sitting in the 710 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,800 manicure chair and coming back. I still don't do my pedicures, 711 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,400 no, but that's a whole different that is. 712 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,600 But there is something quite liberating actually about saying 713 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,320 do you know what? I can do this myself. 714 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,320 Yes, yeah. And, and just you realise how 715 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,040 much your mind revolves around your nails. 716 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,640 And I don't want to think about them that much. 717 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,840 I think for me, I want to take a bit more of an approach to 718 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,480 beauty where it's a bit more effortless and a bit more. 719 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,320 I mean, I today I've put a lot of effort in because I've smelt 720 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,320 of of horse poo for the last few weeks. 721 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,960 And so I put a lot of effort in today and did my full makeup for 722 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,840 you because it's not every day that you get to sit on a. 723 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,200 And you do your own makeup. Most of the time I do have a 724 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:55,280 makeup artist who helps with with doing my makeup for events 725 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,480 because I can be a bit of a one trick pony with it. 726 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,600 And she helps me be a little bit more elaborate and try different 727 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,320 things and impact what she's amazing. 728 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,520 She's again my friend of like 15 years so. 729 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,360 You've got some good friends, girl. 730 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,720 I'm very, I'm very lucky. And what about these locks? 731 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:13,440 Because your hair is just glorious. 732 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,040 Please don't tell me you dried that yourself. 733 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,120 I did. Sorry, but your hair is 734 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,160 fantastic. I didn't dry it myself it looks. 735 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,760 Gorgeous, honestly, it's and it's such a gorgeous colour. 736 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:34,120 But The thing is I, I have very, very thick, coarse hair and I've 737 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,760 had to learn over the years how to manage it myself because not 738 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,480 a lot of people know how to do hair as coarse as mine. 739 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,320 I've had a lot of bad blow dries in my life and so yeah, 740 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,120 learning. And again, I think it's along 741 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,640 the same lines as nails. I like to, I like to be able to 742 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,640 not think about it too much and this is just a blow dry and 743 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,280 straighten and I've also had it cut so that there's lots of 744 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,960 layers. A good cut, good cut, good cut. 745 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,360 I really, I've changed my hair as well recently. 746 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,280 I've gone from having balayage and I have a wonderful colourist 747 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,400 called Emmy and he, we've taken my hair from balayage to just a 748 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,880 very delicate highlight and it just feels a lot easier to 749 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,240 maintain and a lot less. Again, it takes up a lot less 750 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,360 thought. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. 751 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,880 That's exactly the word I'm looking for. 752 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:30,120 What's your view on tweakments? I my view on tweakments is I 753 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,160 just as long as everyone's happy with what they're having done, I 754 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:39,800 think that good for them. I'm definitely someone that I 755 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,000 come from a family who have never shield away from talking 756 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,560 about Tweakments have always been very, very open. 757 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,240 And I, I'm actually really grateful for that because I 758 00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:51,760 think if it had been something that we didn't talk about or I 759 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,720 didn't know about, it might have felt like this forbidden fruit. 760 00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:58,440 But no, I've had a, I've always had open discussions with people 761 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,320 in my family that have have had them. 762 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,600 And I've definitely had my own tweetments in, in the past. 763 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,480 Nowadays, I'm definitely thinking about what it is that I 764 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,360 want to have done moving forward. 765 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,440 I've had Botox for the last five years. 766 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,600 And again, I'm like, I don't know, I don't know how, I don't 767 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,640 know how I feel about it at the moment, but it's just, it's a 768 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,520 very personal journey. It is. 769 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:28,680 And I, I really, I really love hearing different perspectives. 770 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,600 And I think the more that we talk about it, the more that 771 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,240 other people feel comfortable to share their, their journeys on 772 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:36,320 it. So I really. 773 00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:40,720 No, I think it, I do think the whole thing about being really 774 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:44,920 open about it is useful so people can understand. 775 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,800 Of course I have buttocks, you know, My, I Can I frown? 776 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,160 Maybe. But not that I'm really angry 777 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:56,640 right now. Furious with you, fundamentally. 778 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,760 Who would you say you dress for? Yourself, Ali, Your husband? 779 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,640 Your audience. Oh, I definitely dress for me, 780 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,280 definitely. It's, it's such a personal 781 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,480 thing. And I've been a personal style 782 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,320 Blogger and YouTube for however long. 783 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,960 And I think there's almost been that transition that I talked 784 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,160 about where maybe I didn't know who I was so much in the early 785 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,200 days. And then when I learnt who I 786 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:29,560 was, I realized that dressing for yourself is such an 787 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,360 empowering feeling. And some people will question 788 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,320 things that I do, but I remind myself I'm I'm not dressing for 789 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,640 you, so of course you wouldn't like it. 790 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,000 I'm dressing for me. What did you wear to get married 791 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,320 in? I wore a two piece wedding dress 792 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,840 because I really wanted to feel like I was wearing my wedding 793 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:54,240 dress for the duration of the celebration. 794 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:58,960 And so I wanted to be able to change the top and just still 795 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,320 feel like I was really wearing the dress because it's not 796 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,000 often. I hope it's the only time I'll 797 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,200 ever have to wear a wedding dress and I wanted to enjoy 798 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,760 wearing it and really feel like like I got got the full use of 799 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,000 it. So where were you married? 800 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,640 So I got married at Ainhoe Park. Oh, lovely. 801 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,000 Yeah. So you can't get married there 802 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,120 anymore? Now it's a furniture shop, No? 803 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,240 And and so the story of your wedding dress was. 804 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,360 So it was actually really, it was such an interesting story 805 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,040 because I thought I wanted one style of dress, that very sort 806 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,840 of figure hugging dress. And then I realised that there's 807 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,160 quite a lot of occasions that you can wear dresses like that. 808 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,520 And I wanted to wear something that was a little bit more 809 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,760 special. And so I wanted to go quite big, 810 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,920 but I never thought I was going to be that person. 811 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,640 So very, very roughly. But the the edges of the dress 812 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,960 were raw and felt quite ethereal and undone. 813 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,160 And I then had the most beautiful Basque for the evening 814 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,440 as well, where we have like a party. 815 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,800 And it was very good. Went party went on until 4:00 in 816 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,720 the morning, which was wonderful. 817 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,440 And I think it looked, the dress looked really lovely in the 818 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,600 venue as well. And the venue was the only venue 819 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,920 we went, went and looked at Aynhoe Park was we didn't go 820 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,920 anywhere else because we went there and we knew straight away 821 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,360 that this was where we wanted to get married. 822 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,280 And so it's quite lovely that I think, oh, you can't get married 823 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,920 there now. But it's also strange because 824 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:35,480 I've got this one picture of me in the stairs of Aynhoe Park and 825 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,120 it's now where everyone goes and gets pictures. 826 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,480 And I think that's so fascinating. 827 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,400 That's where I got married. Who made your wedding dress? 828 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,360 It was Kate half Penny. Who's brilliant? 829 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,840 She's very lovely. And was it a collaborative 830 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,800 process or did you see a dress? Hanging there, it was very much 831 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:57,440 a collaborative, A collaborative endeavour and we ended up 832 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,640 changing one of the tops and making it into what is now known 833 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,280 as the Gordon top. And it's more like a bodysuit. 834 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,080 And it's just, I think the most wonderful thing for me was 835 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,760 seeing how many people then went and got married in the dress 836 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,760 that I brought to life with her because. 837 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,000 From her or knock offs of it from her. 838 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,720 I remember meeting so many women on the Underground, walking 839 00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:26,040 through London because obviously it's so her main shop is so 840 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,440 close to Houston. I'd bump into people carrying 841 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,240 their Kate Halfpenny dresses and I think that was one of the 842 00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:37,080 moments when I truly understood the impact that I could have on 843 00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:41,440 a brand because it was like nothing I'd ever experienced. 844 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,520 It was very, very, very interesting. 845 00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:47,120 So you're you have been different people's wedding dress 846 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,360 icon Do you talking icons do you have a style icon I. 847 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,720 Do. And that would be my grandma. 848 00:49:54,320 --> 00:50:00,360 Oh, how beautiful and why. Because I think she inspires me, 849 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,400 not just in her style, but then her style is so incredible. 850 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,960 Even to this day, she is beautifully and impeccably 851 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:14,040 dressed and she's in her 90s and she had the outfits that she 852 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,480 used to wear 50 years ago. I now wear exactly the same and. 853 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,440 But not her, not the original. Pieces. 854 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,120 I have a few pieces from her but not not so much, not so much. 855 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,720 I have a few clothing pieces, a few of her like vintage pieces, 856 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:35,200 but her jewellery I wear all the time and I feel so lucky to have 857 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,800 so many pieces from that is that's why I said about my my, 858 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,120 my family in general. I feel so lucky to have a family 859 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,880 that valued craftsmanship and style in that way. 860 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,840 My Nono was the master tailor of Huntsman on Savile Row. 861 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,280 He was the the master tailor for nine years. 862 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,360 And so they were very much it was a family steeped in that 863 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,760 kind of world. And so to have so many pieces, 864 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,080 pieces of jewelry that my grandma, my grandpa bought my 865 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,840 grandma as gifts is so lovely. It's. 866 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,480 Precious, isn't it? It really is. 867 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,360 I think that connection with another person. 868 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,960 I was talking to my mother actually about it just just very 869 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,280 recently. How would you want someone to 870 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,560 describe your style DNA in three words? 871 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:28,400 The the fundamentals of my style are generally timelessness 872 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:34,720 because I I go for time timeless over classic because it feels a 873 00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:40,560 little bit more modern and elegant because I love the 874 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:46,880 elegance is genderless and so I love wearing tailoring elements. 875 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,360 I'll often steal things from my husband's wardrobe, whether it's 876 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,200 a blazer or a scarf, but then I can also have quite a feminine 877 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,400 side to, to my dressing. I think even today I'm wearing a 878 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,600 dress with a shirt. So it feels like I'm almost 879 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,720 marrying those two, two sides. But I think those to me are the, 880 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:04,360 the fundamentals of my son and I. 881 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,640 But I try not to think about it too much because this could all 882 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,720 change. I think the person that I was 883 00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:14,040 when I started blogging was very different, very, very different 884 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,680 in style. It was quite alternative back 885 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,880 then. And so those, those words and 886 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,000 those fundamentals could change very, very. 887 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,480 Quickly, I mean, on that note of changing or evolving, do you 888 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,360 ever use a stylist to work with you? 889 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,360 I've. Never. 890 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,840 Used a stylist because you are the stylist. 891 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,440 Yeah. Well, yes, definitely. 892 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,680 I think there are, there are definitely moments where, and I, 893 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:43,480 this is a topic that I've been mulling over a lot because I am 894 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,640 a personal style Blogger. And I think that that's where, 895 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:53,600 where everything started. And I personally believe that 896 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,960 that would be taking away a little bit of the specialness 897 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,480 because a lot of people can get a stylist and, and make their 898 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,440 content and, and have that luxury of a stylist there to 899 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,600 help them. But then there is also that 900 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,400 importance when I'm attending events or doing photo shoots 901 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:14,880 that I can totally see how having access to other styles 902 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,360 and pieces would be invaluable. And so it's definitely, it's a, 903 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,000 I'm sort of here at the moment where I'm, I'm thinking about it 904 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,280 and exploring it more and more. Do you have one particular 905 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,200 person? Obviously your grandmother's, 906 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,480 your style icon, but is there one particular person, woman 907 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,440 that you look at and you think, God, I love her style. 908 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:44,080 Every single look she wears is just perfect. 909 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,600 I think I take a lot of inspiration in the clean, the 910 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,440 cleanliness and the clean lines of her style and the the classic 911 00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,040 nature of how she dresses from the Princess of Wales. 912 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,200 I think that she just epitomizes timeless elegance. 913 00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:11,120 And I think it, I love the way her style is. 914 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:17,920 So it's so I don't want to say that it's, it's safe because she 915 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,280 wears such bold colours sometimes as well. 916 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,560 But I think she provides a lot of inspiration that can be taken 917 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,480 away and replicated on many different budgets. 918 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:34,560 And I think that that's a really unique way to to have personal 919 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,280 style where you can take that and a simple black coat that she 920 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,200 could wear can be replicated in so many different budgets. 921 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,440 And I really like that. I mean, how do you feel about 922 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:49,360 the recent announcement of her Kensington Palace saying that 923 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,440 they're not going to release the brands that she's wearing? 924 00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:57,240 I think that information will come out easily anyway. 925 00:54:57,240 --> 00:55:03,120 There are so many pages dedicated to finding her style 926 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,400 that I often find out from then from those kinds of pages before 927 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,400 it's even released. So I would say that it was still 928 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,920 very much. I think what they're potentially 929 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,000 trying to do is to just keep that focus. 930 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:19,480 But again, I don't think any of these things are set in stone 931 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,440 and they may change their mind, but there we'll still find out. 932 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,680 We'll still. Know good answer that. 933 00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:28,600 I mean that's what I said. You know I was asked exactly the 934 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,040 same question in an interview the other day and the fact of 935 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:37,240 the matter is a editors know exactly what she's wearing 936 00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:43,440 because their eye is in and and B if they don't AI will soon be 937 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,520 telling them. Do you have one item of clothing 938 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,240 or jewellery or accessory that means the most to you? 939 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:59,080 I would say that it is anything that I have been given by my 940 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,720 grandma or by someone in my family. 941 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,800 I think I've got, as I mentioned, a couple of coats 942 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,480 from my grandma. I've got a pair of wonderful 943 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,880 aviator sunglasses from my dad, but I have a picture of him 944 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,640 holding me wearing. Gosh, how old am I? 945 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:24,640 Must be over 30 years ago. And there are bags that my 946 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,840 grandpa used to carry on all of his business trips that I still 947 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,280 have. They're ripped and threadbare, 948 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,240 but I love them. And I think that's where I'm 949 00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:37,240 quite a sentimental person. And so just having those things 950 00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:40,720 that I can actually continue to use and love, especially the 951 00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:41,920 jewelry that I have for my grandma. 952 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,560 I don't have a lot, but I'm in such a wonderful position where 953 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:50,120 sometimes I get to go to events and it brings me so much joy to 954 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,760 be able to wear those pieces. I'm sure my audience probably 955 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,040 sick of the sight of me wearing the same jewelry, but I I think 956 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,080 that that's lovely seeing someone wear something that they 957 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,440 love it. It really is lovely and and to 958 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,560 be applauded definitely. I'm glad you think that. 959 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,040 Let's talk about travel. Are you very aware of your 960 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,760 airport? Look what you wear to travel in. 961 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,000 I'm I'm a person that's very aware of all of my. 962 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,440 Yes, I was going to say you're you don't put anything on by 963 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,600 accident. No, I'm, I'm very, very 964 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,960 considered, even down to my pajamas. 965 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:31,800 I like I, I'm just because I know how it affects me and I 966 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,320 want to be comfortable. That's one thing that I say 967 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,800 constantly on my channel is I want to be comfortable, but I 968 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:42,040 want to look lovely. And so really finding things 969 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,960 that are comfortable that I feel lovely in are at the top of my, 970 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,400 my, my style agenda, I would say. 971 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,760 And so if I'm traveling long haul flights, I want to have a 972 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:58,640 nice comfy set of cashmere on so that I can snuggle down and I've 973 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,120 got cardigans and jumpers and layers. 974 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,440 I'm really mastering the art of layering at the moment, 975 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,120 especially at this time of year when it's cold. 976 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,000 And so yes, I think that that's, but that's my personal journey 977 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,320 and I think there are so many different ways to, to do these 978 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,160 things. But I, I always champion this 979 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,880 because it wasn't something that I realized how much it impacted 980 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,120 me taking that amount of joy in those kinds of things. 981 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,640 Lovely. What luggage do you use? 982 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,640 Oh, I don't. I don't know if I would 983 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,400 recommend it. It's one of those things I've, 984 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,800 I've, I splurged and I'm just not certain that it's like the 985 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,040 best. So I wouldn't want to say 986 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,000 because I'm not someone that usually talks about things 987 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,160 negatively. I just, if I buy something and 988 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,560 then I don't talk about it, my audience generally know that I I 989 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,400 don't like it. Right. 990 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,800 What type of luggage would you like? 991 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,400 Oh. What type of luggage? 992 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,400 Well, do you know what I think that you realize with luggage is 993 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,520 that it's a bit of a, it's a, a bit of a head versus heart 994 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,840 because if you buy the same that everyone else has got and it's 995 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,240 usually the more subdued things, you very much run the risk of 996 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,680 having your luggage taken by accident. 997 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,400 So, and that's what I've done. I've kind of got the same 998 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,720 luggage that most people have got, but now I've got these 999 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,280 little sausage dog charms that I found on Amazon. 1000 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:32,080 If you think of the the Erma's Rodeo charm, it's like that, but 1001 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,720 a sausage dog. Oh, fantastic. 1002 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,640 I've got them on everything. I'm so sad that they actually 1003 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,320 look a bit weird on my little pochette because every single 1004 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,960 handbag either has a sausage dog or a horseshoe bag charm and I 1005 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,000 put it onto my luggage as well. And so I can tell by that. 1006 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,440 But I would say that I want to find like a happy medium between 1007 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:56,760 a luggage that I can identify as mine that isn't in your face but 1008 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,920 also doesn't look like everyone else's. 1009 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,160 I don't see you with bright orange. 1010 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,280 I'm coming on to sort of wardrobe secrets. 1011 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,440 What, if anything, do you feel you've got an excessive amount 1012 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,520 of in your wardrobe? Pyjamas. 1013 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,800 Really. And what brand would they be? 1014 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,400 Just comfy pajamas that's I don't really discriminate 1015 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,640 against a good pair of pajamas to be honest. 1016 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:27,800 I really love pajamas and I think that everyone in my, like 1017 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,480 my husband would definitely attest to this. 1018 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,840 He would say that she's got too many pairs of pajamas. 1019 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:38,320 But my 1 little thing when it comes to the art of pajamas is I 1020 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,360 love a fresh pair. That's like my thing that just, 1021 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,760 I really like to put on a fresh pair of pajamas and always 1022 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:52,680 cotton, cotton, silk, mostly sort of natural. 1023 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,120 It's also bamboo. Bamboo is really good because 1024 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,520 you get the like the cooling benefits, but also the warming 1025 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,280 benefits as well. And I would say cotton bamboo 1026 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:07,560 over silk because the comfort in being able to stretch and that 1027 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,280 kind of thing. But my my husband drew the line 1028 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,120 at me ironing my pyjamas because he said he said that there was 1029 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,200 no time for any any other things being ironed, so I'm not allowed 1030 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,960 to iron pyjamas anymore. You're guilty secret. 1031 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,840 What is the most expensive item of clothing you've bought? 1032 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,000 I'm not asking the price tag, I'm just asking what it was. 1033 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,080 I get so much wear out of my wardrobe nowadays. 1034 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:39,040 I really, I've, I've changed so much that I'm like, I, I want to 1035 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,920 wear my items and I want to get. So if I'm spending money on I've 1036 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,520 honestly got to get so much wear out of them. 1037 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:51,440 But I've got a few suits that I've had made bespoke, which is 1038 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,880 such an incredible process to be a part of. 1039 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,880 And where have you had those made? 1040 01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:00,600 I have a tailor in Woven, which is a family run business, and 1041 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:05,680 Jeff, who does my tailoring, has been doing this for, gosh, more 1042 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,560 than 50 years, I think. And he's such a character, such 1043 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,280 a character. And does he have a collection of 1044 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:16,680 samples or do you take him an image of what you want or how 1045 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,800 does it and what's the process? It's anything really. 1046 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,040 I mean, they offer different tiers so you can have made to 1047 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,680 measure or bespoke. There's different options, but 1048 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,440 he has all of the books so you can go in and flick through all 1049 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,160 of the different fabrics. But I've had a few occasions, 1050 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,360 like when I picked up the the tweed from Harris that I'll take 1051 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,200 the the fabric and have an idea of what I want to make. 1052 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,320 Recently I acquired some wool from a man called Andrew who 1053 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,760 just wanted to send me some some of his incredible wool. 1054 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,120 And I took that to Jeff and Jeff made it into the most stunning 1055 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,640 oatmeal colored long coat with a chocolate collar. 1056 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,680 Chocolate velvet collar is beautiful. 1057 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,240 And so I really love that process and that feels such like 1058 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,600 such an investment in my wardrobe. 1059 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,800 And especially a suit, because a suit you get a pair of trousers 1060 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,120 that you could wear with a blouse. 1061 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,640 You get a often if it's a three piece suit, you can get a 1062 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,560 waistcoat as well or a blazer that you could wear with, I 1063 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,600 don't know, some loose trousers or some linen trousers. 1064 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:18,640 In summer I've got a really beautiful Navy blazer that looks 1065 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,000 wonderful with tailored linen trousers. 1066 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,320 So I like, I like that kind of thing. 1067 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,920 Do you mood board your looks? I tried. 1068 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,520 Doing that and I felt like it looked very different when I 1069 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,120 wore it versus on the mood board. 1070 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,240 So I actually sometimes if I've got a lot of events, I like to 1071 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,160 plan because otherwise I get a bit. 1072 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,920 I was going to say, how do you how do you plan? 1073 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,280 Yeah. Do you try on a photograph? 1074 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,600 Yes, because things look different, don't they? 1075 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,440 In the mirror versus a on a video. 1076 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,960 I'm like, oh, I thought that looked good when I was looking 1077 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,640 at it in the mirror. But filming it is a completely 1078 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,080 different kettle of fish. And you can also sometimes see 1079 01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,040 where a different colour would connect, maybe a few of the 1080 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,320 colours in the in your outfit together better or a better 1081 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,280 knitwear piece or coat. And so I do find that if I've 1082 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:12,040 got a lot on and I don't have much time, that planning of my 1083 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,560 outfits just so that when I get up in the morning, it's not a 1084 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,640 frantic dash to try and find something that's really, really 1085 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:19,880 helped with the mood boarding thing. 1086 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,840 I haven't mastered the art of do you do mood boards? 1087 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:28,080 I used to for a collection, but not not personal, no. 1088 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,080 So you didn't because your outfit today is. 1089 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,120 I'm a mood dresser. I get up in the morning and I'm 1090 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,600 How do I do? Outfit today is such a mood 1091 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,200 like. Your boots, it's like cocoon. 1092 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,920 Cocoon and kick ass boots, yes. Literally. 1093 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:48,080 Now, you've talked a lot about how, oh, you, you actually love 1094 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,200 sustainable fashion, you love timelessness and all the rest of 1095 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,160 it. But I know that doing the job 1096 01:04:55,160 --> 01:05:00,600 that you do, your door must be revolving with product. 1097 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,880 How do you handle that? What happens to all of that 1098 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,800 product? Well, there there is. 1099 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,480 And I work on collections as well. 1100 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,440 And so I, I have to be really honest with myself first of all 1101 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,600 about things that I'm actually going to wear in my wardrobe. 1102 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,240 And I have great relationships with the brands that I work with 1103 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,680 that if something arrives and it's not right, we send it back. 1104 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,320 And we're happy to to foot the cost of sending as much back as 1105 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,520 possible, but also helping charities as much as possible, 1106 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,840 but also supporting the charities that I'm really 1107 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,840 passionate about. And which ones are those? 1108 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,480 So I'm, I'm very much, I'm so passionate about the King's 1109 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,480 Foundation and what they do because again, they are 1110 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,560 supporting the crafts and the communities that come along with 1111 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:49,520 those, those crafts, but also the natural world. 1112 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:54,280 And I think that for me was such a, a light bulb moment where I 1113 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,840 could use my voice and use my platform to support what they're 1114 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,000 doing. Because some of their projects 1115 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,960 are incredible. They do a lot of the millinery 1116 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,960 side of things from Highgrove. And I met with the most 1117 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:13,360 incredible lady called Jess, who she's one of I think 2 that is 1118 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:18,160 still able to weave hats in the way that she does. 1119 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,920 And her next project is to actually grow the straw and 1120 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:27,360 harvest it herself to then produce these pieces of art. 1121 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,160 What she's doing is absolutely incredible and I could listen to 1122 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,760 her talk about this all day, but the the most important thing for 1123 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,960 me is to be able to support them in that. 1124 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,040 Way and using your platform to educate. 1125 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,760 Absolutely, absolutely. That's the joy of reaching so 1126 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:43,600 many people. Yes. 1127 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,200 And then the other side of things is I, I often like to 1128 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,400 invest in brands as well wherever I can. 1129 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,920 And I'm invested in Tarla, which is owned by someone who I admire 1130 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,080 hugely in this industry, Grace Beverly. 1131 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,080 She is absolutely incredible. And it was a joy to be able to 1132 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,400 to come on board like that and support a brand that is really 1133 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,240 educating on the realities of sustainability and what 1134 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:10,480 sustainability actually means. And whilst they're reevaluating 1135 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,480 their their use of the word consistently, their mission 1136 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,560 still remains the same. And so I try to do my best as 1137 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,120 someone who loves the natural world but also loves style and 1138 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,280 fashion in this way. Great, let's spin on some quick 1139 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:27,240 fires. Oh gosh. 1140 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,240 What? Fashion advice would you give 1141 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,040 your 20 year old self? Oh gosh. 1142 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,040 She was probably hanging out in Ibiza. 1143 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,400 Oh gosh, she was, she made so many mistakes. 1144 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,320 Bless her. And, and I think the one that 1145 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,120 sticks out to me the most, just just don't wear the wet look 1146 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,640 suspender leggings, Lydia, please don't wear them because 1147 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,080 they, they, they, they looked good on so many, but they didn't 1148 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:55,920 look good on you. Which fashion trend or era would 1149 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,040 you most like to see make a comeback? 1150 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,720 Oh, these are very good questions. 1151 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:11,400 I, I feel like the, the eras that I think are the best never 1152 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,560 really left. When I think of Dior New Look in 1153 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,520 the 1940s and that way they never really left. 1154 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:22,399 They're still very much here. And so I I think that nothing is 1155 01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:26,040 off limits nowadays in terms of personal style and trends. 1156 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,720 Fashion or beauty trend you would consign to room 101. 1157 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,479 I always feel like I'm a bit, I'm a bit sat on the fence with 1158 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,479 these things and I always want people to just feel comfortable 1159 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,600 with whatever they do. And I and I would hate that 1160 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,520 anyone listening to hear me say something that maybe they're 1161 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,279 doing and not feel like they could do it. 1162 01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:47,960 So I'm as long as you're happy, that's all that matters. 1163 01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:54,359 Your views on tattoos. Lovely on on. 1164 01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:57,160 I think there are some incredible pieces of art when it 1165 01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,439 comes to to tattoos. I am far too indecisive. 1166 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:05,080 So I I learned very early on to just just don't go there for me. 1167 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,279 Beauty treatment you couldn't give up. 1168 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:12,600 I would say that I can't give up good hair care and having a good 1169 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,840 team of people working on your hair because I feel like your 1170 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,240 hair is an extension of your outfit I like. 1171 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:23,000 That high end or High Street, we know the answer to that. 1172 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,160 They're both. I would say a bit of both. 1173 01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:35,800 Minimalism or maximalism? Maximalism in a style sense, 1174 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,000 like I love clashing prints and I love a little bit of like, you 1175 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,399 know, going all out with jewellery and really letting it 1176 01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:44,600 speak. But in a lifestyle sense, I 1177 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,160 think if you choose well, you can keep it a bit of it a bit 1178 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:51,279 minimal too. Crocs cute or puke? 1179 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:59,040 I don't own a pair. You're very diplomatic, Birkin 1180 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:00,720 or Kelly. Birkin. 1181 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:06,680 Boyfriends or wide legs, wide legs, body con or boho. 1182 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,360 I'd go boho. Friend or style? 1183 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:15,120 Style, Colour or monochrome? Monochrome. 1184 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,560 Experimental or uniform? Experimental? 1185 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,760 Cashmere or cotton? Both hoarder or editor? 1186 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,200 Editor. Charity shop or resale. 1187 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:35,760 Both Beanie or Berry. Berry. 1188 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,840 Shapewear or sexy lingerie? I kind of sit more in the middle 1189 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,440 of like comfortable because shapewear is not usually that 1190 01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:49,680 comfortable and neither is so I like a comfortable underwear. 1191 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,520 Sexy comfort, Sexy comfort. That's the one. 1192 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,360 Tights or stockings? Tights. 1193 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,240 Bikini or one piece? One piece. 1194 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,320 And finally, traditional last question at the end of the day, 1195 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,320 what do you or don't you wear in bed? 1196 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,440 Pajamas through and through. My husband would love it to be 1197 01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:12,960 not pajamas, but I just love pajamas so much. 1198 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,760 Lydia, thank you so much. We massively overrun on time, 1199 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,440 but we I was just loving our conversation. 1200 01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:22,800 I've had the best time. Thank you so much. 1201 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,320 I've not even touched my cup of tea. 1202 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,880 You haven't my emotional support cup of tea. 1203 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,360 But thank you. What fun. 1204 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:30,920 Thank you so much for having me.