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This week I'm going on a style 
journey with British born 

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International visual artist 
Sophie T Sophie's work is 

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defined by her vibrant use of 
colour, energetic drips and 

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signature splats. 
Her work champions inclusivity, 

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self acceptance, accessibility 
and strives to make women feel 

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just a little bit nicer about 
themselves. 

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Yes to that. 
Hello and welcome, Sophie. 

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Hello. 
How are you? 

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Oh. 
Great. 

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It's lovely to meet you and have
you here. 

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All very colorful. 
Oh, it has to be I I really 

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thought about my outfit today. 
I was like, God, I'm meeting the

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Queen. 
I I need to like pull everything

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together. 
How did you decide what to wear 

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today? 
Well, I I had to do pink, some 

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bit of pink. 
I mean, you maybe can't see, I 

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think. 
It's really your signature 

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color. 
It is. 

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And I think, I think the reason 
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it's girly, but like being a 
woman is powerful. 

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And also I know that Pink really
was trending for a bit and just 

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like cowboy boots, I think I'll,
I'll continue to follow it when 

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it goes in and out of trend. 
So yeah, and then what else have

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I got? 
I've got this Jean Paul Gauthier

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vintage piece. 
And this, where did you pick 

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that up from? 
That was from on Brick Lane. 

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Brilliant. 
What else have I got on? 

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I bought this belt last week in 
a vintage shop in New York. 

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Yeah, cowboy boots. 
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They're from Austin, TX. 
And was it just the most 

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incredible? 
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Like this shot is called Allen's
and I reckon there was about, I 

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don't know, 10,000 cowboy boots 
in there and they were all 

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completely different. 
It was like the most amazing 

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treasure chest. 
I like you have to go. 

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It was just quotation. 
Salt on the sensors. 

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Oh my God, I I I had like no 
space. 

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I'd already got charged for 
extra baggage. 

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Honestly, when I got on the 
plane and I just like, I bought 

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3 pairs and I was like, I just 
don't know how I'm going to get 

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these home, but like, I don't 
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Like I have to have them. 
Were there any vintage ones 

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there? 
I mean, they all look vintage 

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and they're really good quality 
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Like, I pretty much wear these 
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That's what I love about cowboy 
boots, and some of my favorite 

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ones are about probably older 
than you are. 

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That's nice. 
Yeah, that's nice. 

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Yeah. 
They just last forever, don't 

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they? 
They're great and I love the 

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fact you get a little bit of 
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That's exactly I could wear them
for 24. 

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Hours. 
Proper. 

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Proper. 
Yeah, I have trainers that hurt 

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me more than my cowboy boots. 
Yeah, that's bad. 

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Now you're just fresh off the 
back of your send nude live. 

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I am at the London Palladium. 
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mean? 
Tell me about that. 

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What was the inspiration? 
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that don't know, I paint naked 
women and I've been doing, I've 

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been an artist. 
Literally. 

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Yeah, well, actually on them 
physically, yeah, but also on 

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canvas. 
And I've been an artist for 10 

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years, but I've I've really 
found my love in the last five 

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and that's when I found nude 
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Typically we do kind of a 
catwalk show so we invite people

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to apply to become nudies and 
these are sensational women, all

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different shapes and sizes and 
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And this time we had 10,000 
women apply apply to walk naked 

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at the Palladium, which is wild.
There was 2500 people there, and

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it was the ultimate celebration 
of women like the beauty and the

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power of women like. 
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casting process or the selection
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Well, honestly, we weren't 
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like, I mean the time before 
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these shows now. 
The Palladium was definitely 

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that. 
The Crescendo, Yeah, it's 

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absolutely massive. 
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because typically we just do a 
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end with a mic and like, hi, 
bye, thank you for coming. 

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But this time it was more, it's 
a stage production. 

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So I mean, there was a live 
painting element from me. 

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There was a choir. 
There was a live model. 

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We did like interviews. 
I said a bit about my story 

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because to be honest, I never 
had the best relationship with 

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my body growing up, which is why
I'm so excited to be on this 

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because clothes were such a 
power for me, like and how I use

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them to gain confidence when I 
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inner self belief. 
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So you go through this selection
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On this it. 
Went down to how many? 

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150? 
Fifty. 

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Well. 
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25, wasn't it? 
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just, I at the end of it, the 
girls were like get off the 

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application. 
So I was like, yes, yes. 

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And the girls were like your 
piles like this. 

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Just As for context, you print 
out that many applications it 

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goes to here, yeah? 
And so they've sent pictures in 

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of themselves, nude pictures in 
of themselves. 

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They had written their story and
provided their Instagram handle,

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so that's how we stalked them. 
But yeah, it was more based on 

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story and background and. 
Giving that woman the 

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opportunity to be out there 
stark naked, painted by you. 

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Yeah. 
And as a life transforming 

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moment. 
It's kind of become a a bit of a

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thing, yeah. 
Like, I mean, I really am proud 

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of the work that we do to like 
put these women on this platform

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to allow them to tell their 
personal story. 

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Like, it's very much kind of not
about me. 

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The day it's about that. 
I noticed, and you know, reading

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about it, it's just telling 
these incredibly powerful 

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stories. 
Well, they're intimate stories 

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as well. 
And people and women are just so

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strong and they've been through 
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And I don't, I don't know, as a 
as a young girl, like I wanted 

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to see myself. 
I've like got a flat chest. 

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I mean I've got like a million 
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So like, and I still haven't 
interested you about it, but I I

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think that if I was able to see 
someone that looks like me in 

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the media, like that would have 
absolutely changed the way I 

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felt about myself, which was 
like not very nice. 

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And I think that it's just so 
important for me to like, allow 

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these women that look so 
different to like, have this 

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place where they can, you know, 
share who they are and then they

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can help other people on their 
journey. 

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Yeah, I I mean absolutely to be 
applauded, but can I just loop 

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back on, you know, you talking 
about you not feeling very 

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comfortable in your own skin, 
where, where did that come from?

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I think, I think it came from, I
mean I guess like not the 

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opposite sex, not being 
interested in you and then at 

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what age I think I was most 
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Age 14/15/16. 
Do you think you were looking at

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a lot of images of other young 
women? 

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Yeah, I mean in the media you 
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right? 
And I just wasn't relating to it

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and I think I wanted to see 
bodies like my friends or like 

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my mom's or like mine and I just
wasn't seeing it. 

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So yeah, I think it's just the 
the, you know, the magazines and

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it's changed so much now, which 
I absolutely love. 

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Like and I think young people 
nowadays have somewhat of a 

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harder time growing up because 
the social media, but on the 

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same, but you know by the same 
standard, like there's actually 

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so many beautiful accounts that 
you can follow that can really 

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help you with your own journey. 
So yeah. 

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And I I love the fact that it's 
changing and to be part of that 

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movement, like it's important to
me. 

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What was the catalyst, would you
say, of you coming to terms with

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your body and loving it? 
Honestly, I I don't think I've 

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arrived. 
I think it's something that you 

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need reminding of. 
I go through periods when I see 

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a nudie and they're expressing 
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It allows me to like feel the 
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Because what they may not be the
what is perceived to be the 

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perfect body or. 
Well, I I guess that it's like I

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see an inner confidence in 
people and there's always going 

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to be some someone prettier, 
someone more successful, someone

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more someone that has more 
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But it's like it's when you see 
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authentic and loving themselves 
and accepting themselves for 

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literally who they are, what's 
and all like those reminders. 

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It doesn't matter if they don't 
actually look like you. 

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That helps you with your own 
confidence. 

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I guess the point where I I mean
it's it's hearing from other 

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women and it and this is what 
I'm actually most proud of this 

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like community that you know 
we're we're I've built, which 

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are the Nudies. 
It's like, you know, WhatsApp 

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chats with them, but we've had, 
like we've had six generations 

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of nudies now and they're all 
chatting all the time and seeing

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them making friends and still 
discussing how they feel and 

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seeing them go through the 
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Like, I mean, one of the women 
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for me a month ago has just had 
her baby that's now in the chat.

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You know, her body's going to 
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She's going to go on a journey. 
But yet this is sisterhood of 

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all these girls together being 
like, you know, go here. 

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And I just love creating spaces 
like that. 

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Yeah, I I think it sounds 
really, really commendable 

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because we're all on journeys 
with our bodies. 100% and it 

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changes every day. 
Like it, let's be honest, 

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there's no like moment that 
you're like, yeah, I love myself

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now because the next day, you 
know even coming in the lift up 

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then I was like Oh my God, the 
light of the lift. 

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Sophie, this is what you're all 
about Like, come on, like, you 

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know and we need those. 
We need those reminders and. 

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So is the new D thing going to 
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I mean, you know, is there going
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I. 
Mean. 

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I hope so. 
I've got a taste for it now. 

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Honestly, I before I went on the
stage, I could not believe how 

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I've never experienced nerves 
like that before. 

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I've never actually spoken in 
public before, weirdly. 

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And then I've just signed up for
this which everyone was like, 

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what you doing? 
So but that's fine. 

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But honestly, I went into a 
state of shock. 

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Like I went really cold. 
Yeah, that's proper shock. 

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And I couldn't like I remember 
Alex came in she's like they 

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they all my team had got me send
news cake and I was getting my 

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hair curled and I remember the 
more coming and I was like this 

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thank you. 
I just couldn't move and I and I

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had to be on stage in like 10 
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So take me to that, to behind 
the scenes you're you're 

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physically painting with your 
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So this time, in fact, that was 
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But I didn't actually paint any 
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we were. 
It was such a busy day in the 

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end and I was just in rehearsals
the whole time. 

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And were you directing your? 
Team Yes. 

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So what we do is we give, we 
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on their story. 
Obviously colours very important

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and colour. 
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girls, I mean one of the girls, 
Naomi has a Caribbean heritage 

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and she was like I just want 
yellow and green and black and 

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we were like no worries like you
know you you know they were just

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played with it because she 
wanted the Jamaica. 

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Yeah. 
Oh, that fantastic. 

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So yeah, honestly. 
And you just went with it. 

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And how many people were 
actually painting? 

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How many of your team were? 
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painting and they were past 
nudies as well. 

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And we always make sure that 
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they're going through, you know,
very intimate vulnerable place 

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and it's nice that someone else 
that's had that experience 

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before can come back in. 
We had a mental health officer 

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on the day to make sure that 
everyone felt fine, like it's 

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such honestly, it's just such a 
movement we've created and I'm 

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just so hungry to just do it 
more because it's. 

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I can see the impact this has 
happened. 

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It when I was doing my research,
it just looks like such a 

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celebration of womanhood, 
femininity, color. 

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Yeah, just it's a it's a proper 
celebration. 

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Yeah. 
Visual celebration. 

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Quick question. 
Yes, intimate. 

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Do they wear little G strings? 
They do. 

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They They have. 
Because they were very well. 

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They were very well covered in 
the past. 

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In my first show they didn't. 
But actually we had and some of 

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them I think didn't want to on 
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they have the paint on, like 
they they just like, they feel 

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dressed. 
Yeah, it's like a switch as well

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because they're all in it 
together and they just can't 

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wait to get their cut off. 
Like we gave them like little 

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slips and it all had their names
embroidered in London Palladium 

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on the back. 
That was just like, can we take 

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this off? 
And I'm like, no, because it's 

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the dress rehearsal or the 
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Just keep it open now. 
But but yeah, I think actually, 

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legally with the Westminster 
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We weren't allowed. 
For them not to have. 

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Yeah, but I mean, I've done 
show. 

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I mean, my first show was in 
Shoreditch. 

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We rented. 
I mentioned this in my speech, 

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but we rented like a a place 
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think we rammed like 300 people 
into this place. 

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And it, like safety, must have 
loved you for. 

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That, and you know what? 
We didn't even use like, actual 

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body paint. 
Like now where like everything 

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is so well thought. 
I just was like, yeah, there's 

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acrylic paint or work. 
Oh my God. 

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Honestly, that was. 
I still have nightmares of those

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girls. 
They were just sending me on 

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their WhatsApp group, them 
peeling and stripping all their 

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hair off them in the bath that 
night. 

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That was like, five years ago. 
Anyway, we wouldn't do that 

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anymore. 
But. 

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No, no more. 
Suits, yeah. 

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It's been a wild journey, but. 
Yeah, where to next? 

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So I want to do AUS tour and. 
For the nudies. 

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For the nudies. 
Yeah. 

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And why US? 
And like talking businessly now 

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like 30% of our sales goes to 
the US and I've never really 

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popped up there or optimized 
that market. 

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It's a bigger market and also 
there's just more people. 

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And I think also I love the US 
culture. 

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Like, I love the fact that they 
are very accepting of crazy 

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ideas and I think it'll be well 
received there. 

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Yeah, any. 
Particular cities that really 

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appeal. 
We're doing 6 cities. 

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Wow. 
Miami, Basil will finish on in 

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December. 
Oh, fantastic. 

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Yeah, I think so. 
It's a vibe, isn't it? 

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Yeah. 
And I'd never really get into 

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Basil, 'cause like, I mean, we 
probably won't go into, like my 

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art career that much, but like, 
I'm like super independent. 

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We've done everything on 
Instagram, like we're not 

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representing our galleries to 
say. 

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I really salute you for. 
OK, cool, because it just it's 

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about making art more 
democratic. 

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And I love. 
That I couldn't agree more. 

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I. 
Love the fact that actually you 

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can buy your art on 
installments. 

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I mean great. 
Isn't that a genius idea? 

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I love it that six years ago, 
and honestly it's still 90% of 

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our sales are installments like 
because it's normal normal 

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people like our client base. 
It's 25 to 55 year old women 

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that just have normal jobs that 
actually just want to invest in 

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artwork, but they've otherwise 
been deterred from doing so 

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because they've gone into a 
gallery and they had a bad 

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experience because someone 
looked them up and down. 

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You know what I mean? 
Like. 

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Now then, tell me as an artist, 
you expect your art to become 

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more and more valuable. 
Yes, but then that slightly goes

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against the sort of democracy. 
Yeah, 100%. 

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So where do you how do you deal 
with that? 

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I know this sounds like really 
big headed, but I just think I'm

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going to like rewrite the rule 
book for it. 

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Like basically I I have that 
conflict all the time. 

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Like, obviously to make 
something more valuable, you 

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need to like stop the market. 
I now believe artists have the 

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power because there's different 
ways to market. 

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So for example, One Ave. is like
I'm doing a stage show that's in

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a way that we can still be 
accessible, reach mass, but keep

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the artwork more precious. 
So there's a split between 

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prints and originals. 
Our prints, they're still 

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expensive. 
They're still limited edition, 

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but we do have lots of drops. 
So they're less of an investment

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purchase and that's this is the 
thing that all artists do and 

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then you know, you starve the 
original market, which we've 

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begun to do. 
I think I'm super conscious of 

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like and also I have a chip on 
my shoulder about like not being

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accepted to the art world. 
But also, I believe that artists

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now have the power, but to some 
degree I still need that high 

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end prestigious stamp. 
Because if we're honest, like 

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I'm just an artist operating on 
Instagram, I do have my own 

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gallery on Carnaby St. and that 
was an important part of that 

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like kind of premium portfolio. 
For me to be able to get that 

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stamp of approval to be like, Oh
no, I've got one for my own. 

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But like I still need the high 
end art world. 

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And the way we're going about 
that is I'm creating 

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relationships with more 
progressive businesses in the 

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art world. 
For example, there's an auction 

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house that we work with called 
Tate Ward and they can sign 

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artwork directly from me. 
So typically a way that an 

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artist would you know get an 
auction, get a be successful is 

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if they have a good secondary 
market. 

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So a secondary market is if I 
sell to Alex and Alex sells to 

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her mate, the Alex selling to 
her mate would be that secondary

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sale. 
And you would know this. 

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But like, I don't know, maybe 
I'm over explaining it, but that

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is how you'd you'd know that 
it's like kind of an investment 

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grade artist to cause. 
Of the desirability. 

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Of the secondary market, yeah. 
Now obviously I have and you 

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know, not afraid of to admit it 
flooded that primary market 

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because I'm direct to consumer, 
I've allowed people to access 

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the artwork in installments. 
I wouldn't have been able to 

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have that secondary sale because
all of those secondary sales 

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happen at an auction house. 
Now how would I get to sell 

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anything through an auction 
house? 

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Because they typically only can 
sign work with galleries or like

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buy galleries or private 
collectors who you know have 

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relationships with galleries. 
So Long story short kind of 

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boring way these this amazing 
company have allowed me to just 

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like consign the artwork 
directly but then also do 

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something interesting with the 
sale. 

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For example, I locked myself in 
a box for 24 hours and live 

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streamed the entire thing, did a
painting and then at the end of 

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it was the start of the auction 
and then we saw it that way. 

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Or I auctioned off a blank 
canvas and it sold for £12,000 

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and then it was a Commission. 
So we're doing these like 

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noteworthy, like stunty things. 
Getting the, the like stamp of 

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approval from like the high end 
art world, but I'm also giving 

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them what they want, which is 
access to customers because I 

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know that I have that. 
So yeah. 

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And I think that will keep 
changing. 

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And I could talk about this all 
day, all night. 

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I'm fascinated by. 
Yeah, I'm fascinated by how that

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all works because I think at my 
core, I do want to democratize 

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the industry because I believe 
it should be for everyone. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
How we go about? 

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Good for you because you're 
really just owning your space, 

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which is is fantastic and it's 
really inspirational to see and 

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I'm sure that you have inspired 
a whole generation of young 

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artists. 
So chapeau now today we're going

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on a style journey together. 
So how did you decide what you 

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were going to wear here today? 
I really wanted to do a 

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combination of new and old, and 
I don't know. 

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I don't know whether I did it 
right. 

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I think I think I'll just love 
finding things. 

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I love the. 
So you enjoy the whole vintage? 

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I love, yeah, I enjoy vintage. 
I enjoy shopping. 

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I would actually go as far as 
saying it's one of my only 

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hobbies. 
And I know that's so sad to 

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admit, but like, I'm just like, 
so all I do is work and all I do

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is think about my artwork and 
then like, I don't really enjoy 

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anything else. 
I really like the the retail 

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therapy is is exactly that like 
and. 

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But is it always vintage retail 
therapy? 

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No, actually, I do like to go. 
I do like to have a splurge 

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every now and then, but I always
make sure it's like to to 

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celebrate a milestone. 
Yeah. 

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I'm a big believer in Milestone.
Yeah, treats exactly. 

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And so you found that this 
fantastic vintage Gautier. 

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Isn't it amazing? 
It's a. 

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Fan I love his mesh work. 
I know. 

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It's so cool. 
So you found that? 

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Found that in Brick Lane in a 
shop called Atta Girl, which is 

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fab. 
And then you've teamed it with. 

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You've teamed it with a belt 
that I saw in a vintage shop 

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last week in New York. 
This is just a House of CB High 

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Street silk skirt and then 
obviously my cowboy, my love. 

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Turquoise cowboy embroidered and
rhinestoned cowboy boots. 

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Very cool. 
I just love the stories that go 

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with everything. 
I'm just such a storyteller, 

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like. 
And also if someone compliments 

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me on an outfit, I'm like, Oh my
God, like it was a bargain. 

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Or like, Oh my God, I found it 
in this place. 

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You know what I mean? 
Like I love. 

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And do you enjoy the whole 
process of putting your looks 

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together? 
Definitely. 

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But I definitely have two sides 
of me. 

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Like I have the side that's like
glam when I come to stuff like 

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this, but then I also have the 
art side, which I need 

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simplicity. 
So it's like completely 

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unbranded. 
It's always white. 

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I was going to say, what are you
painting in? 

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Always white, oversized, you 
know. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
And they and you know, most 

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recently in the last two years, 
I paint with oil now. 

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So I mean, it used to be fun 
because acrylic, it's like very 

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poppy color and you'd get it on 
you and it dry and it's staying 

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at certain place you can put it 
through the wash oil continues 

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to spread so it just becomes a 
brown and messy disgusting. 

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So my art clothes used to be 
cooler and I used to transition 

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them like tonight. 
I was going to say, Did you 

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ever? 
Yes, I definitely did. 

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And I still have some great 
pieces that you know, from my 

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early days. 
You know, I used. 

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I remember this little white 
dress and I actually wore it to 

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the show because it just looks 
so cute with those swatches of 

453
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,440
acrylic paint on it and the 
splats not an option now with 

454
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,120
oil. 
It's like filthy. 

455
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:54,000
Like it's gets and everything 
and have you. 

456
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,440
Ever had any sort of horrible 
moments with Paint on you? 

457
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,840
I mean, I've had so many 
moments, the classic, literally 

458
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,760
slapstick comedy moments where 
I'm like, looking at the paint 

459
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,520
and squeezing it and I'm like, 
why isn't it coming out? 

460
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,480
And it just pops and it's like 
blue oil paint in my eye. 

461
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,760
Like now I'm like, where's the 
eye wash? 

462
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,120
And we're like, got this first 
aid kit in my massive studio 

463
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,560
sitting and like, running across
this way. 

464
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,600
Yeah, so many things. 
I mean, it's all in my mouth. 

465
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,920
It's all in my yeah, actually 
someone did a TikTok of me once.

466
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:28,760
Being like Sophie is is 
promoting unsafe art practice, 

467
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,800
which I had to apologize for, 
but. 

468
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,800
But going back to your 
childhood, were you very aware 

469
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,240
of your mother's style growing 
up? 

470
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,680
Oh. 
My God, definitely like my mom 

471
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,640
in the playground. 
I was so proud that she was my 

472
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,520
mom. 
She always looks so put together

473
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,080
and so beautiful. 
That is so lovely to hear 

474
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:53,080
because so often guests say, Oh 
my God, the school gate was just

475
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,240
the worst thing in my. 
Life. 

476
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:56,920
No. 
No. 

477
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,760
Yeah. 
I watched your Sophie Habu. 

478
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,040
Yeah. 
And I yeah, I I heard her say 

479
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,120
about it because she had her 
mom's flares or something. 

480
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,800
Oh my God. 
I'm the opposite. 

481
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,000
Like, honestly, I just used to. 
I used to be like that's. 

482
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,600
My And what was it about your 
mom's style? 

483
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,760
I think she was just, do you 
know what I think she did? 

484
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,560
She always had one piece that 
was the talking point and we 

485
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,000
moved as a kid from from 
Birmingham to Manchester. 

486
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,520
So I was in a new school and she
was obviously in a new place 

487
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,600
that she had no friends. 
And I've always this is 

488
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,320
something I've maybe taken from 
her, used an outfit or use an 

489
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,040
accessory as a way to make a 
friend because if people like 

490
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,880
notice it come up to you and 
compliment you, that's your end.

491
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,280
That's your warm lead like. 
And I think that she always like

492
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,760
whether it was a piece. 
I mean, it was never expensive 

493
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,680
like, but it was like something 
that she found in a charity shop

494
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,280
that was unusual or you know, 
the was. 

495
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:51,920
There a specific outfit that you
remember thinking, Oh my God, my

496
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,120
mum is just the coolest woman on
the planet. 

497
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,280
She always had. 
She's got a great bum. 

498
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,440
My mum, like she always had, 
just had. 

499
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,840
She always knew how to look good
in a good pair of jeans, like, 

500
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,120
and then she'd pair that with 
the United Top. 

501
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:09,840
But like, yeah, I don't know. 
She just had a fab, fab big bum.

502
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,760
I was, I was looking through, 
oh, I was doing some preparation

503
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,080
for this last night and I was 
like, oh, what's the time? 

504
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:21,240
And I remember I went to my 
friend's 30th party. 

505
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,600
This friend is called Natalie 
Emmanuel and she is super 

506
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,680
amazing. 
And she was on Game of Thrones 

507
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,920
and I was invited and I was 
like, Oh my God, I'm going to 

508
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,840
know no one there. 
But like, I love this girl and I

509
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,800
want to go. 
And I remember I wore like a 

510
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,280
jacket and I've still got it. 
Now it's made out of synthetic 

511
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,240
hair, coloured hair. 
And it all, it's like fringing, 

512
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,000
but with hair. 
It is actually stunning. 

513
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,560
And I actually don't know 
whether it's real hair. 

514
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,600
Actually, I don't know. 
You should say that. 

515
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,080
But I don't know what what hair 
is, but it's beautiful. 

516
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,600
And I remember that night, 10 
friends all different. 

517
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,480
It was like ombre, like 
different rainbow. 

518
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,120
It goes like there was a strong 
Aqua then into like light Blues,

519
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:05,320
then light pinks and lilacs and 
dashes of orange. 

520
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,520
It was fantastic, like a big 
rainbow number. 

521
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,320
And honestly I still got mates. 
One of them ended up being a 

522
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,600
nudie poppy. 
Yeah, honestly, I've still got 

523
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,120
friends from that night and I 
distinctly remember the outcome 

524
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:18,720
and do. 
You feel that that sort of gave 

525
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,400
you a confidence to walk into a 
room where you didn't know 

526
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,840
anyone and did anyone come up to
you because of what you were 

527
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,120
wearing and and sort of 
introduce themselves? 

528
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:33,680
Definitely, definitely. 
And I still use that as a tool 

529
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,720
now 100%. 
And and yes, talking tools. 

530
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,200
How do you decide what to wear 
on in your nudie shows? 

531
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,880
Because I noticed the last one 
you were full on pink sequins 

532
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,040
feathers. 
Well, what do I decide to wear? 

533
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,600
I mean, I am always looking 
online for stuff like it's it's 

534
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,720
my hobby. 
Like I just, I love looking at 

535
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,880
clothes. 
And actually this time I worked 

536
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:06,040
with a costume designer, Zoe, 
and she actually, a year 

537
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,640
previous I released a big coffee
table book called Send Nudes. 

538
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:17,680
And for the launch of that I 
well, she made me a dress, I 

539
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,280
guess made out of the pages of 
the book. 

540
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,880
So it was honestly the most 
stunning thing. 

541
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,360
Who was it inspired by? 
It was inspired by like a 

542
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:29,560
designer, I'm not sure, but like
it was like all the pages were 

543
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,720
cut out like with a scalloped 
edge and it was like layers and 

544
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,760
fringing and it had like a high 
neck which came out like this 

545
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,080
and it was tight and it was all 
made out of paper. 

546
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,440
Beautiful and I just. 
Love that clothes can tell 

547
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,920
stories and they're pieces of 
art. 

548
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,640
And honestly, one of my dreams 
one day is like all my pieces 

549
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,360
from like the shows will go in 
like the VNA of like an 

550
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,600
exhibition. 
Well, I was going to ask you, 

551
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,720
you you have such a passion for 
color and movement in your brush

552
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,960
strokes to me that that would 
actually translate really 

553
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:03,480
beautifully into print. 
Yes. 

554
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,840
And you know, as in fabric 
print, have you ever, have you 

555
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:12,000
ever collaborated with a 
designer on on your painting? 

556
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,760
Do you know what? 
I haven't yet, but it's 

557
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,840
definitely something that's like
on my wish list. 

558
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,560
But I'm a big believer as well 
and like waiting for the right 

559
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,080
project and also the right time 
in your career to do so. 

560
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,640
Like I'm very much in a profile,
Building said. 

561
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,480
And I'm not massive yet, and I 
really want to be the biggest 

562
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,520
artist in the world and I want 
to collaborate with those high 

563
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,600
end designers because I aspire 
to have businesses similar to 

564
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,440
them and I love the design work 
and the intricacy of the you 

565
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,040
know of. 
The making process Who would be 

566
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,040
your dream designer to 
collaborate with? 

567
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,840
I love Richard Quinn. 
Yeah, brilliant. 

568
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,120
And I love Christian Cowen. 
I actually have a a piece that I

569
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,840
wore. 
I had a show at the Waldorf like

570
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,800
three years ago and I had this 
massive and it was a 

571
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,800
collaboration with him and Annie
and do you know the shop 

572
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,240
Annie's? 
So I'm kind of issued, it's 

573
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,600
actually 2 doors down from mine,
which is absolutely lethal. 

574
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,760
Like like it's so bad. 
Like I need to stop spending in 

575
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,040
there. 
Had a good day in the gallery 

576
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,200
straight. 
Down to it initially they they 

577
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,440
got my number as well. 
They're like, so me come in. 

578
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,840
I'm like Oh yeah OK. 
But I wore this massive dress. 

579
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,200
It was a Christian Cowen I 
believe Times Annie Collab and 

580
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,760
it had a huge bow on it. 
Pink bow. 

581
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,480
Now I'm actually, I know I say 
this thing about vintage and 

582
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,720
stuff, but I'm quite hard when I
wear things like I'm like, I'm 

583
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,720
always like quite moving around 
quite a lot. 

584
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,440
So I actually tend to damage 
damage things a lot, which I'm 

585
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,960
not proud of myself for. 
And I'm also a messy person, so 

586
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,320
it always ends up on the floor 
anyway. 

587
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,760
So this this dress got damaged, 
but Zoe saves the bow and 

588
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,880
stitched it on the back of a 
jumpsuit that I wore at the this

589
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,560
current show when I was like 
painting. 

590
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,000
So I love the stories and the 
blending of them and the 

591
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,520
repurposing outfits for 
different things. 

592
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,400
So. 
I mean, you're so much in the 

593
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,360
public eye, you know, every 
second day you're on social 

594
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,520
media, posting and all the rest 
of it. 

595
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,600
Do you ever feel the the 
pressure to keep wearing new 

596
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:16,080
things, different things? 
Pressure. 

597
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,160
No. 
Is it Joy? 

598
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Joy. 
Honestly. 

599
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,080
Joy. 
Like finding things, re wearing 

600
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,240
things. 
I know that I had this one pair 

601
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,160
of silver cowboy boots from 
Boohoo that I honestly think I 

602
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,240
wore to every event for five 
years. 

603
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,600
And my mother was like, will you
take them boots off? 

604
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,200
Like so yeah, no, no, no real 
pressure. 

605
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,760
Just like a nice yeah. 
It's like an outlet for me, to 

606
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,320
be honest, like. 
For you, what's the sexiest 

607
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,760
look? 
Well, I think it's for me. 

608
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,360
I kind of know how to dress for 
my figure now. 

609
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,760
Like, I think I've got my mom's 
nice bum. 

610
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,120
I do have a nice bum. 
So I like wearing something 

611
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,000
that's like tight over the bum 
and like a long skirt and a 

612
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,080
tight top. 
Like that's like it kind of 

613
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,400
looks a bit effortless. 
But like, I know that it like 

614
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,400
plays in my finger. 
Like I remember this one dress I

615
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,000
thought was sexy at the time. 
Like I bought this pack, a 

616
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,640
riband piece for a show of mine 
in Sydney. 

617
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,080
And you know, those ones that 
the the discs. 

618
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,680
The discs. 
Oh my God. 

619
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120
I mean, I don't want to slate 
them, but they just fall apart. 

620
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,400
Is it still in a good enough 
condition to at least frame? 

621
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,800
I know what you mean because. 
That piece is valuable, Sophie. 

622
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,600
I know, Unfortunately it is not 
because on the night my my bum 

623
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,720
poked through it and ripped the 
inside thing. 

624
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,880
I was actually looking at the 
Dropbox folder last night, so I 

625
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,000
was like oh, what outfits have I
had that convention on the 

626
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,160
podcast I saw This piece of my 
ass is completely out. 

627
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,400
So no, it's not. 
But I want to use them in 

628
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,160
artworks. 
This is. 

629
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,160
I mean, I'm going off here, but 
I really want to move my nude 

630
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,200
women into textiles now, like 
tapestries. 

631
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,680
I just literally went to a shop.
You would literally take them. 

632
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,240
Well, I'll let you. 
I honestly don't know yet, but 

633
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,920
like I just went to a fabric 
shop and like in Miami, it's 

634
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,280
called Mood Fabrics and I 
thought I'd like discovered the 

635
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,920
next big thing and apparently 
it's not. 

636
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,080
I haven't discovered it. 
It's online by the way. 

637
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,280
It was insane like and I so I 
bought loads of pieces and my 

638
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,680
idea is and I know Tracy Emmon 
did this in her early work. 

639
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,240
She like went into tapestries. 
She actually made a tent and I 

640
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,360
think it was like it would think
it was called everyone that I've

641
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,000
ever slept with or something. 
I just love that piece and I 

642
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,480
love her. 
So I'm kind of like trying to 

643
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,840
emulate some of her confessional
work slightly but I I don't know

644
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,680
I think I'll use maybe I'll get 
my photo references from my 

645
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,240
nudies because they always 
sending me news which is great. 

646
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,480
So I never have shortage of that
and just that use like maybe 

647
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,280
pick up areas like the the 
highlights and low lights and 

648
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,360
like structure the fabric and 
like use a sewing machine and 

649
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,400
embellish it with beads and 
sequins and ostrich feathers. 

650
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,000
I'd know like I'm excited. 
I'm excited. 

651
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,240
And also I've got this new 
place, this new studio and it's 

652
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,360
like a live work which I've told
you about before and I'm tiny 

653
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,080
bit concerned about the fumes of
my oil paint because I'll sleep 

654
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,239
at because I'm sleeping there as
well. 

655
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,520
And I was like life is literally
about maneuvering what you're 

656
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,239
doing based on your 
circumstances. 

657
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,199
So like because of that, why 
don't I just go into textiles? 

658
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,600
Because it's not toxic. 
I could just use this 

659
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,000
opportunity to just play in 
that, you know, with that type 

660
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,280
of stuff. 
So I I don't know how it's going

661
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,440
to work out, but I'll let you 
know. 

662
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:31,080
Oh, I can't wait to hear because
to me, I I look at some of your 

663
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,360
paintings and think actually 
that would make a fantastic rug.

664
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,440
100% And when I got into 
tufting, you know, how do you 

665
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,000
know tufting when they make up? 
So I made one in Sydney and we 

666
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,320
had a big archive sale and it 
actually sold, but it wasn't 

667
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,840
even finished off. 
And I still like, Oh my God, 

668
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,000
it's going to fall apart on his 
wall. 

669
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,360
But that's fine because I know 
the guy, but it's like, it's so 

670
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:58,840
time consuming, like Oh my God. 
And I'm like very much a person 

671
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,040
that like, has a crack and then 
I'll get bored and then I'll go 

672
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,320
into something else, so. 
Is that why you use, you know, 

673
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,680
you have a team of people in 
your studio and you're directing

674
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,200
them too, I would imagine? 
I don't know how deep you want 

675
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,800
to get into business, but I've I
had quite a big team helping me 

676
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:20,200
like prep the canvases and I 
don't know, I think we all go 

677
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,520
through like. 
Did you feel you lost touch? 

678
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,480
With us, Yeah, I did, yeah. 
And also I had, I mean at my 

679
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,040
height, which is like about a 
year ago, I had 15 employees. 

680
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,560
Now what that means is that you 
have to create to pay bills. 

681
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:42,760
And actually I think I hit 
honestly a bit of, you know, I 

682
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,720
think I became slightly more 
mature and responsible and just 

683
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:50,200
thought, so if like is this what
you want or is this just your 

684
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,080
ego talking like you just want a
big team, you want to be a big 

685
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,640
artist like. 
And actually I think it was, 

686
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,520
yeah, it was a bit of a period 
of self loss to be honest, 

687
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,360
because I had to like strip back
what I thought that being 

688
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,680
successful was. 
And I think now I'm at more of a

689
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,040
place. 
I'm just like, you know what? 

690
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,800
Like, make for the love of 
making, Yeah. 

691
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,440
So when you're not in front of 
the camera, which is rarely I 

692
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,680
know, but what's stay at home, 
Sophie. 

693
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,360
What's she wearing? 
Stay at home Sophie. 

694
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,520
Is, I mean disgusting. 
Not showering for like 2 days. 

695
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,640
Not washing my hair for a week, 
Alex. 

696
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,600
That's too much information. 
What are you wearing or not? 

697
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,360
Or you're nudie at home. 
OK, I'm not nudie at home. 

698
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,840
No, I am. 
I've got like really spiky legs,

699
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,480
so I like, like I give myself 
eczema if I have my legs 

700
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,080
together. 
So I'm always like very bugged 

701
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,600
up. 
I'm a cold person and like 

702
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,040
always, got lots of layers on. 
So, favorite layers. 

703
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,440
I honestly, I should not be on 
this amazing podcast if we are 

704
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,600
talking about the Sophia home 
because she is not a style icon 

705
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,640
at all. 
Like she is a gremlin. 

706
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,320
No, no, she, yeah. 
I mean, it's very much, yeah, 

707
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,920
I'm just in scruffs. 
I'm in scruffs. 

708
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,400
I live in scruffs. 
If it's in the studio all white 

709
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,640
though, it has to be. 
Until it's not. 

710
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,640
Until it's not until it's got 
paint all over it. 

711
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,520
Now you have been spending a lot
of time in Australia, so what's 

712
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,720
what's Sydney Sophie like? 
Sydney Sophie is wholesome. 

713
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,760
I'm pretty wholesome though here
though. 

714
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,480
But but is your style different 
in Sydney? 

715
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,600
I have to say, when I first 
moved there, I was like, why is 

716
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,280
everyone in Birkenstocks and 
flowy dresses and I just became 

717
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,080
that person. 
I'm like a sponge. 

718
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,000
I yeah, I mean when. 
And then when I met, I mean, 

719
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,800
last year I was living in Sydney
for 4 1/2 years. 

720
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,280
And last year alone I did eight 
flights back here, which is so 

721
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,000
hectic, which is part of the 
reason why I'm now here, because

722
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,320
work's really here. 
But no, I I definitely mold it. 

723
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,640
It's just so bloody hot there, 
like you can't wear anything 

724
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,520
else but. 
When do you think you really 

725
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,080
discovered who you were 
stylistically? 

726
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,600
I honestly think I'm still on a 
journey. 

727
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,400
I think I I don't like this 
about myself, but I do think I'm

728
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,120
influenced quite a lot by my 
surroundings. 

729
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,840
Why don't you like that about 
yourself? 

730
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,800
I think it's like, I think it's 
an immaturity thing somewhat, 

731
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,320
and I think hopefully I'll grow 
out of it. 

732
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,000
But it's like maybe not feeling 
good enough or just always 

733
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,520
wanting to fit in, I guess. 
And I think I've got that chip 

734
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,960
on my shoulder about the art 
world as well. 

735
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,520
Like, I always just, like, want 
to just, like, pee, You know, 

736
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,360
Part of the group, I guess. 
But don't you think that's 

737
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,680
partly because you're a very 
visual person, so that you you 

738
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,960
want to fit into the bigger 
picture? 

739
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,960
Yes, I think so. 
But you know what? 

740
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,760
The learning that I always have 
when I I mean everyone goes 

741
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,760
through these like periods of 
their life where they like, lose

742
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,160
themselves and they find 
themselves again. 

743
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,040
But then the person that they 
found is actually different 

744
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,240
because they're five years older
and they're they are a different

745
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,200
person. 
Like, I think that the lesson 

746
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,240
that I always keep learning is 
like your individuality is the 

747
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:12,240
thing that actually is your 
magic and sets you apart. 

748
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:15,600
So I actually, when I find 
myself again, you know, this 

749
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,400
clean girl aesthetic that's like
very trendy at the moment. 

750
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,800
I hope that it's going out 
because I'm just not that girl. 

751
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,400
But, you know, you see in the 
shops in the influence by it 

752
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:24,960
and. 
Yeah. 

753
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,520
And then you see people on 
social media, like, you know, 

754
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:32,120
doing well with that. 
Yeah. 

755
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,560
I mean, I'm not even going to 
lie and say that I'm like fully,

756
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,560
like know who I am and know what
my style is. 

757
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,640
I think it's constantly just 
evolving and that's honestly OK,

758
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,040
it's. 
Great. 

759
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,920
And we evolve as human beings, 
OK, Yeah. 

760
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:50,000
And you know, we shouldn't be 
wearing what we were wearing 20 

761
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,920
years ago, 100. 
Percent, yeah. 

762
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,960
If someone was to describe your 
style in three words, how would 

763
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,280
you want them to describe you? 
Or what would you want those 3 

764
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,640
words to be? 
Eclectic. 

765
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Risky herself. 
Oh, love that. 

766
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,560
I just made that one up. 
I'm really impressed with that. 

767
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,520
Thank you. 
I really do. 

768
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,800
You spend much time doing your 
makeup. 

769
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,080
No, I did it in the car on the 
way here. 

770
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,320
Like, I hate doing my makeup. 
I'm just like, I remember. 

771
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,800
I think I was like, how long 
have we got? 

772
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,000
And the guy goes, 35 minutes. 
I'm like, oh, I'm good for 

773
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,880
another 15. 
Like, I yeah, I just, I think 

774
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,680
I've just done the same thing. 
I think mind, which is bizarre 

775
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,360
because I I do, I'm so good at 
painting, but somehow it just 

776
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,160
doesn't translate to makeup. 
But do you think you sort of, by

777
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,680
the time you finish painting, 
you really don't want to start 

778
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,840
painting this? 
Oh my God, absolutely. 

779
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,880
I mean, I will go if I'm in AI, 
do things in projects. 

780
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,240
So if I'm in my scruff project 
period where I'm painting, you 

781
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:48,760
won't see a scruff of makeup on 
me for. 

782
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:54,680
Have you ever painted your body?
No, I should do it myself, 

783
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,400
shouldn't I? 
Oh. 

784
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,840
Yes. 
I've had this idea right and the

785
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,400
Met Gala was last night and I 
saw Tyler with one of my ideas 

786
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,960
in my head and no idea is 
original in your own, so it was 

787
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,360
probably stolen from someone 
anyway. 

788
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,520
But she had sand all over her. 
So I've had this idea that I 

789
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:15,480
want to create like do a project
called Skins where it's getting 

790
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,800
these women nude but like, I 
don't know, like drawing like or

791
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,120
sticking like beautiful lace on 
them or like airbrushing some 

792
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,760
like beautiful patterns or like.
I mean recently I covered one of

793
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,920
my nudies in that 24 karat gold 
leaf. 

794
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,040
Yes, I saw that. 
I love that idea of like using 

795
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,480
the body as the canvas to. 
I mean, you know, when I think 

796
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,680
of that, I think of Pat McGrath 
and just. 

797
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:41,240
Yeah. 
What she does. 

798
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,160
I mean, what an artist. 
Oh my God. 

799
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,200
Amazing. 
Do you think you've got a style 

800
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,280
icon? 
I put down Carrie from Sex and 

801
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,120
the City. 
Yes, I get that. 

802
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,600
Yeah. 
Actually, because you you are. 

803
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Eclectic. 
That's nice. 

804
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,840
Thank you. 
I think that she's like, 

805
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:05,760
adventurous with it and daring, 
yeah, And she always has that 

806
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,240
one statement piece. 
When you feel like you need to 

807
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:13,000
be, or you want to be empowered 
by clothing, what would you 

808
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,520
reach for? 
Or are you very much a mood 

809
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,120
dresser? 
I'm. 

810
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,680
I'm such a mood dresser. 
I'm I'm not a planner at all. 

811
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,120
Like everyone in my team is just
trying to get me to like plan 

812
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,480
the next week out and it's just 
like if you wake up in the like 

813
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:30,800
honestly I think that I am an 
artist because that's literally 

814
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,960
the only thing I could possibly 
do. 

815
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Like I just love. 
I think there's so much magic 

816
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,920
and spontaneity and This is why 
we're discussing before like 

817
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,760
that's a News Live show like we 
it was pulled together in a 

818
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,640
month the same thing. 
It would have been exactly the 

819
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,040
same outcome if I'd have had a 
year to do that project because 

820
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,720
I wouldn't have started it till 
the month out anyway. 

821
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,280
In fact, that is actually what 
happened. 

822
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,160
So I don't know. 
Yeah, I'm such. 

823
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,200
A. 
So being the spontaneous person 

824
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:58,800
that you are, are you organized 
within your wardrobe so that you

825
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,480
can be spontaneous? 
Is your wardrobe. 

826
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,520
I aspire. 
No, it's awful. 

827
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,120
I mean, I yeah, that's my like 
next thing I'd like because I 

828
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,840
seem to like always pull. 
I want like an area that has the

829
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,920
basics in because every outfit 
that I have always has a basic. 

830
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,800
I think I always get to a 
dressing situation and I'm like,

831
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,400
I have nothing to wear. 
But it's not true because you 

832
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,280
have so much to wear, but you 
just have so much rowdy stuff to

833
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,080
wear. 
It needs to be partnered with 

834
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,240
something that's more, that's 
clean. 

835
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,800
A basic white tee, you know, 
with your rowdy skirt. 

836
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,280
And I think I need to sort that 
out. 

837
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,040
Yeah, no, I'm not there yet. 
When you're unsure of what 

838
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,160
you're putting on, who do you 
most trust in terms of opinion? 

839
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:48,200
Oh, probably my partner. 
He's not like, he's got a really

840
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,000
good eye. 
Like, he absolutely has not 

841
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,640
bought an item of clothing in 
probably five years. 

842
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,640
But like, he, he always picks 
out good stuff for me. 

843
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,640
And they're practical as well. 
He's got that practical head on 

844
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,680
him. 
So he's like Sophie when you're 

845
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,760
going to Chuck something like 
that. 

846
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:08,080
I've got this beautiful, like, 
Dion, Dion Lee knit, and it's 

847
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:14,400
not actually rowdy at all. 
It's quite it's quite chic and 

848
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,640
like kind of plain but he but 
it's so well made and he was 

849
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,400
just spotted that it was just 
something that is going to look 

850
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,840
nice, easy to put on good 
quality and yes, I probably will

851
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,320
and sometimes he's that he's got
too much going on so I've take 

852
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,720
one thing away. 
Sounds like the voice of sanity.

853
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,320
Yeah, he is. 
He's he's my like, yeah. 

854
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,800
Let's talk about travel for a 
moment. 

855
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,440
Do you pay particular? 
I mean, you travel a lot. 

856
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,200
Yeah. 
Do you pay particular attention 

857
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,160
to your airport? 
Airport look. 

858
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,240
Absolutely not, no. 
Are you a good Packer or a bad 

859
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:48,920
Packer? 
I think my wrote most recent I'm

860
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,960
a spot, an aspiring fantastic 
Packer. 

861
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,800
And the reality is how many 
cases, Sophie? 

862
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,480
Or four. 
I mean no. 

863
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,440
I mean I'm only I only take the 
one case. 

864
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,080
What brand of luggage are you 
using? 

865
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,120
Tesco. 
I did buy my partner for 

866
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,760
Christmas. 
A Ramoa case though? 

867
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,120
No. 
A tumi. 

868
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,040
A tumi, yeah. 
And if if you could buy any 

869
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,520
luggage in the world, what would
it be? 

870
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,720
I'm just, I love Rimowa. 
I'd love a Rimowa collab. 

871
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:25,480
Sounding like pink remote. 
Yeah, pink Rimowa, but I just 

872
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,600
trash everything and I'm 
travelling so I just don't one 

873
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,000
of the things about cases and 
you're not like, so if you have 

874
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,960
a nice case it just gets ruined.
I yes, I'm sort of when you see 

875
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,720
those videos of what happens. 
And they Chuck them. 

876
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,000
Yeah, you don't really want your
luggage nicked. 

877
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,640
I don't. 
Yeah, I want it to be a little 

878
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,880
bit invisible. 
Well, I've never even thought of

879
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,200
that. 
But yeah, I guess I'm doing 

880
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,680
that. 
It's full of, like, designer 

881
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,200
clothes, but it's a desk go. 
It's a desk go bag. 

882
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,560
So. 
So you probably be safe, yeah. 

883
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,480
What, if anything, do you feel 
you've got an excessive amount 

884
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,760
of in your wardrobe? 
Feathers. 

885
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:13,520
Love that guilty secret, most 
expensive item of clothing 

886
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:20,240
you've ever bought or accessory.
Probably my Rolex, which was 

887
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:22,840
stolen. 
Oh, right. 

888
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,800
Yeah. 
In my studio. 

889
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,040
Because I just don't. 
I know I don't. 

890
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,480
Let's not go. 
Down. 

891
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:32,520
Stolen Rolex route. 
Not a good one for me either 

892
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,520
when buying an expensive piece, 
have you ever justified it? 

893
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,400
Pounds per wear. 
No. 

894
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,440
Yeah, silly and. 
And shoes? 

895
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,120
Shoes. 
Honestly, how many pairs do you 

896
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,880
own? 
I'm not actually really not big 

897
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,800
on shoes. 
Just cowboy boots. 

898
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,680
Just cowboy boots. 
How many pairs total? 

899
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,920
Ten. 
OK, it's. 

900
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,840
Not too bad, is that? 
No. 

901
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:05,160
Oldest pair of cowboy boots. 10 
years be with you. 

902
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,680
For another 10 or so I hope. 
Yeah. 

903
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,680
Yeah. 
So when it comes to sustainable 

904
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,960
fashion, I know you were saying 
you think you need a big old 

905
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,840
clear out. 
Yes. 

906
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,960
What's What is your approach to 
sustainable fashion? 

907
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:24,320
Going to charity shops in posh 
areas I in. 

908
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,800
Particular ones that's been that
have been. 

909
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,560
I mean, I don't want to get, I 
don't want to get you Where's 

910
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,720
it? 
It's in Gloucester Road but it's

911
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:36,960
the one on the main strip of 
Gloucester Road and I bought the

912
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:45,840
most stunning hand embroidered 
and beaded silk pink top. 

913
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,080
And then I had my hair done the 
other day and I got bleach on 

914
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,800
it. 
I know, but I've decided that 

915
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,200
the bleach is in the middle and 
this is the great thing about 

916
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,680
being an artist and having 
contact. 

917
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,240
Embroidery over it. 
Exactly. 

918
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,680
We're on the same, Yeah, Yeah. 
I'm going to add some different 

919
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,160
beads to it. 
And what what vintage do you 

920
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:10,320
think the top was from? 
It was, I think it was 80s and 

921
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,560
it was a Skarda. 
Oh, it sounds like 80s a Skarda.

922
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:14,920
Perfect. 
Yeah. 

923
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,880
Let's spin on some quick fire 
questions. 

924
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,480
What fashion advice would you 
give your 20 year old self? 

925
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,040
Oh, skinny jeans just don't work
for you, Sophie. 

926
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,000
Don't worry about it. 
Don't worry about it. 

927
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,600
Which fashion trend would you 
most like to see Maker come 

928
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,480
back? 
I have a thing which this is not

929
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,120
quick for our answer, but I have
a thing with trends. 

930
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,640
I like things not to be in trend
because then, you know, 

931
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,400
naturally they go out of trend. 
When Pink was happening because 

932
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,600
of Valentino last year, I was 
like, can we just stop this? 

933
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,240
Because, like, Pink is my brand 
and it's inevitably going to go 

934
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,360
out, so to mention. 
Barbie. 

935
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,160
I know, I know. 
But I was obsessed with the 

936
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,280
press looks of Margot Robbie. 
Honestly, I just. 

937
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,360
Brilliant. 
Brilliant. 

938
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,280
Absolutely. 
And also the historical 

939
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,600
references with them as well. 
It's all about the story. 

940
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,000
And then she just did it so 
well. 

941
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,760
So which fashion or beauty trend
would you consign to a room one 

942
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,720
O 1? 
There's a there's a trend right 

943
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:12,080
now. 
Clean Girl aesthetic. 

944
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,360
Your last impulse by. 
Fabrics. 

945
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,960
Lots of them. 
Your views on tattoos? 

946
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,840
My views on tattoos is that I 
actually have one. 

947
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,200
When I was 17 years old, I have 
a mole on my foot and I had 

948
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,320
petals put around it. 
It is disgusting. 

949
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,120
That is the only tattoo I'll 
ever have. 

950
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,800
I was in Falraki and I was 
drunk. 

951
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,680
So my my tattoo story is a 
solid. 

952
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,480
Like, no. 
Beauty treatment you couldn't 

953
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,400
give up. 
Botox. 

954
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,000
Although right now I think we're
all looking at a mistake. 

955
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,040
High End or High Street? 
High end. 

956
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,360
Bling or bear? 
Bear. 

957
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,080
Minimalism or Maximalism? 
Maximalism Crocs Cute or puke 

958
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,800
Cute. 
Sneakers or stilettos. 

959
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,640
Sneakers. 
Skinnies or boyfriends or wide 

960
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,920
legs. 
Wide leg, Bodycon or boho boho. 

961
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,840
Sports Lux or rock chick? 
Rock chick. 

962
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,040
Red carpet or relax. 
Red carpet Trend or style? 

963
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,600
Style. 
Color or monochrome? 

964
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,680
Color. 
Experimental or uniform? 

965
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,480
Experimental cashmere or cotton?
Cashmere? 

966
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:33,680
Hoarder or editor? 
Both. 

967
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,520
Really. 
Hoarder Shapewear or sexy 

968
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,440
lingerie? 
Oh, neither. 

969
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:52,560
Tights or stockings, Tights, 
bikini or one piece bikini, 

970
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,480
beanie or Berry, Berry. 
And and finally, at the end of 

971
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,040
the day, what do you or don't 
you wear in bed? 

972
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,800
I wear layers on layers on 
layers in bed. 

973
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,280
You're popular. 
So sexy. 

974
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:20,680
And yeah, go married. 
Sophie, thank you so much. 

975
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,600
Thank you. 
Fun hour spent together 

976
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,320
discussing all things style with
you and all things art. 

977
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,160
With, you know, man, thank you 
so much. 

978
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:32,600
You're amazing. 
Loved it. 

979
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:33,680
Thank you. 
Loved it.