1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,920 Now you're a busy girl racing around the world into the jungle 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,800 Heart radio. But can we talk about the jungle 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,440 for a moment? Yeah, we can. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,480 I was a bit panicked because whenever I said to anybody I was 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,520 doing the jungle, they were like, oh, with the shower scene, 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,840 what are you going to wear? It, it is almost traumatic if 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,120 you're coming from that world of ballet dancing and then suddenly 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,440 your body, it becomes this different. 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,760 Yeah, as occasionally. What was your light bulb moment 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:36,080 between developing the boobs and the curves to thinking actually 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,680 this is great. I think that took me a long 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,160 time. I think for many years I've 13 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:44,240 wanted to it not be about my looks or my body. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,680 And you know, I wanted to be a serious actress or a 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,000 broadcaster. I've always kind of fought 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,200 against it in a way. You have this extraordinary 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,280 confidence. Where does that come from, do 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,960 you think? Oh, I don't think so. 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,160 I think I always suffer a bit of imposter syndrome in everything 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,120 I do. I think so. 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,920 I mean, especially when I'm on a panel like Loose Women and 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,120 you've got, you know, Jay Moore and Janet St. 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,960 Porter and all these incredible journalists. 24 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:12,600 And they're such, you know, brilliant women and they're 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,760 clever writers and they're so informed. 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,720 And you think, God, am I going to make myself look silly? 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,160 Or do you know, do I belong here? 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,720 I think there's always that element. 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,800 Embraced the 2010 September cover of American Playboy. 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,840 I mean, wow. How do you feel about the aging 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,840 process? Today I'm going on a style 32 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,720 journey with the English TV and radio presenter, actress and 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,520 model. The gorgeous, glamorous and very 34 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,240 down to earth Kelly Brown. Thank you. 35 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,880 Hello. Welcome, Kelly. 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,200 It's very beautiful here. Thank you for having me. 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,920 I'm so envious of your apartment. 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,160 This is stunning. It's a good view. 39 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,360 It's a good view. It's never the same twice. 40 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,640 It really it all the time, as we do as human beings. 41 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,720 Yes, we do. Which is a good thing. 42 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Now you're a busy girl racing around the world into the 43 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,320 jungle. Heart radio, the list goes on. 44 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,400 But can we talk about the jungle for a moment? 45 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,600 Yeah, we can. I mean, the clothing in the 46 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,560 jungle is a uniform. It is. 47 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,240 Actually that's that's kind of the joy of the jungle is that 48 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,480 all the things that we worry about in day-to-day life, like 49 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,280 what we're going to wear and how we're going to be seen, all goes 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,680 out the windows. So for kind of three weeks, 51 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,120 you're not really thinking about your appearance. 52 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,600 There's no mirrors in the jungle. 53 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,320 So and everyone's wearing the same. 54 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,920 So it is a little bit like going back to school where there is a 55 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:37,200 uniform and everyone's treated the same and everyone looks the 56 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,840 same. But what was really interesting 57 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,760 about the kind of jungle outfits that we wore is that everyone 58 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,320 would customise them to suit their own personality. 59 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Like we would get a bandana and whether you wore it as like a 60 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,000 headscarf or or a bandana around your neck as a little kind of 61 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,160 necktie, it was kind of funny how people would like, yeah, 62 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,200 just kind of kind of like just it all up a little bit. 63 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,800 But your bikini? Yes. 64 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,480 Was your choice. Yes, I, there was a lot of 65 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,200 emphasis on this kind of whole shower scene in the jungle. 66 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,480 I know that Mylene Klass made this very famous with her white 67 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,040 bikini. And and I was a bit panicked 68 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,320 because whenever I said to anybody I was doing the jungle, 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,160 they were like, oh, with the shower scene, what are you going 70 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,280 to wear? And I hadn't really thought 71 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,040 about it that much. And what really kind of struck 72 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,000 me was the lack of amazing swimwear on the market for curvy 73 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,080 girls. There really isn't that much. 74 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,720 And I found it really hard to find anything that I felt really 75 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,600 comfortable with because I wasn't just laying on a beach. 76 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,200 You know, I'm in the jungle trying to survive. 77 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,080 I'm going down getting water out of the out of the stream. 78 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,520 I'm, I'm cooking over an open fire. 79 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,440 You know, I'm around people I don't know that well. 80 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,760 So it's, you know, that that kind of element of wanting to 81 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,600 feel confident and comfortable, but it also having to, you know, 82 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,520 be, I don't know, like functionable really. 83 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,160 So I bought like a bunch of different outfits and I had a 84 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,720 big try on and I found. Jeremy, your husband? 85 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,720 With not with Jeremy, he didn't get involved in this. 86 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,040 And and I found that the most comfortable ones that I found 87 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,880 was on next the, you know, the retailer next. 88 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,839 They had some great swimwear and I just took a bunch of those and 89 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,720 and they worked perfectly. But I don't think they've got 90 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,840 shown as much as I thought they would because I think I think 91 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:28,240 time's moved on. And I think a lot of people used 92 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,480 to watch the jungle for that shower scene and to see the 93 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,720 girls in the bikinis. But I think what, what I've kind 94 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,960 of taken from our jungle experience is just how everyone 95 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,800 got on really well and how such a mix of people ended up having 96 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,480 such nice relationships with one another. 97 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,560 And actually it was less about what we were wearing in the 98 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,000 shower and more about our kind of unlikely friendships that 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,800 were that were formed in there. And I thought, that's so 100 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:55,520 interesting how kind of times moved on to maybe when Myleene 101 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,360 did it back in the day when the whole focus was on female, the 102 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,000 female body. It's it's refreshing, isn't it? 103 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:06,640 You've just done this swimwear edit now for next. 104 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,920 Was that as a result of you thinking, what am I going to 105 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,520 wear for my bikini scene in the jungle or how did that come 106 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,280 about? I mean, if I was to tell you the 107 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:20,280 story, like going way back when I was a model, I again in my 108 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:23,200 early 20s, found it really hard to find fashionable swimwear and 109 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,320 lingerie. And during that time I was 110 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,920 hosting a show called Love Island. 111 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:30,640 And when we were putting together the the outfits for 112 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:31,760 that show, it was a brand new show. 113 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:32,960 No one knew what Love Island was. 114 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,800 It was like the first series. I found that going to vintage 115 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,600 stores, I would find that all the 1950s and 60s clothes were 116 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,920 fitting me perfectly. And a lot of the outfits that I 117 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,240 was wearing with like Jean shorts or like little skirts 118 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,720 were all 50s. And they were like kind of 119 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,440 structured and they were had corseting and they really 120 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,440 supported me. And I loved the style. 121 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,040 And I remember meeting with some designers and saying, look, 122 00:05:58,280 --> 00:05:59,760 think we should create something here. 123 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,720 Like, I think we could do like a swimwear line, maybe for the 124 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,400 High Street, you know, maybe have a little play around with 125 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,160 some designs, watch the show, see what I'm wearing and what 126 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,800 I've sourced as my wardrobe for being the host of Love Island. 127 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,440 So you were. Sourcing your own wardrobe. 128 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,880 For that, yeah. My God. 129 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,480 Times have changed, haven't. They Yeah, yeah. 130 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,440 So I was going to, I mean, I was going to all different like 131 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,280 vintage shops and I was travelling between here and LA a 132 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:27,480 lot and there was lots of great vintage shops in LA as well that 133 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,240 I was like, and things from. And, and we ended up putting 134 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,400 together this like incredible wardrobe of like vintage jewelry 135 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,160 and you know, gorgeous, just gorgeous outfits. 136 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,960 Really. The designers were watching the 137 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,720 show. When I came back, we kind of sat 138 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,080 down and they'd created this beautiful range of swimwear and 139 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,880 we actually pitched it to some High Street shops. 140 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:52,480 And at the time, New Look were kind of looking for something 141 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,320 and there wasn't really a lot of kind of celebrity fashion 142 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,760 collaborations at that time. And they hopped on board and 143 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,400 they produced a very small capsule collection that we 144 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,760 launched, I think it was back in 2004 or five, and it sold out. 145 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,880 And then from that moment on, you know, for seven years, I was 146 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,240 kind of designing swimwear and lingerie for curvy girls, and it 147 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,280 was really, really successful. And then I think with like some 148 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,680 of these things, you know, you just kind of fall out of love 149 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,040 with that whole process or, you know, life moves on and you want 150 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,040 to do other things. And, and I just stopped doing 151 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,160 it. And then I think revisiting in 152 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,040 it now like at 46 and seeing that nothing's really replaced 153 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,080 it, Like there's no, there's nobody out there that's really 154 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,560 representing curvy women in that marketplace. 155 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,520 I thought, you know, maybe this is a great time to revisit and 156 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,040 so trying on all the all the kind of swimwear from next, I 157 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,640 kind of thought, God, this is similar to what I used to design 158 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,520 back in the day. Maybe I should revisit this and 159 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,680 maybe collaborate with them and and do this again. 160 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,240 Because if I'm finding it hard to find lingerie and swimwear, 161 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,800 I'm sure other women my shape and size are as well. 162 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,720 So that's kind of a rough story and evolution of where I'm at 163 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,360 now with it. So is it an edit or are these 164 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,000 specifically specific pieces that you've designed? 165 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,160 This is an edit, so I didn't design these pieces. 166 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,360 I would love to design some pieces because I've got some 167 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,800 great ideas of how I would like it to go. 168 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,080 But at the moment it's an edit because obviously I'm just fresh 169 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,600 out the jungle. 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And and I read that you are in 200 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,160 the process of creating your Italian brand. 201 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,960 Yes, yeah. This is the really well, this is 202 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,320 really kind of, you know, we've started this from like, you 203 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,840 know, grassroots. This is Jeremies family have 204 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,080 farmed olive oil for 600 years in Italy. 205 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,400 So generation after generation they have a factory there, a 206 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,760 beautiful farm. So the family all have different 207 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,400 kind of houses on the farm, people that live there. 208 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,080 Obviously the houses are nice. Our house is a little bit run 209 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,880 down that's very rustic, needs a bit of work, but but we go like 210 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:54,800 a few times a year and you can see that Jeremy's generation are 211 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,240 not going to be olive oil farmers. 212 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,600 They all want to kind of all the kids want to move out. 213 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,560 They all want to live in the cities. 214 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,880 They're not going to be there cultivating olives. 215 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,280 And you do wonder like what's going to happen to this farm and 216 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,600 to you? Well, and I've I'm in love with 217 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,640 it, but obviously to them, they've just grown up with it. 218 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,160 So they don't see the beauty like I see it and just how 219 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,760 authentic and real and unusual this whole setup is for me being 220 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:25,280 English going there, I just, it's like a fairy tale and, and 221 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,360 I just think I fell in love with the story. 222 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,000 And, you know, I think being a storyteller, being a 223 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,720 broadcaster, being an actress over the years, you know, I do 224 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,760 romanticize things because obviously being a farmer is not 225 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,920 romantic at all. It's hard work, really hard, but 226 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,040 we kind of have kind of romanticized it. 227 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,600 And I think the DNA of the the history of the farm is within 228 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,800 our brand. But we're starting with homeware 229 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:54,120 and we're developing fragrance. We've got a preview this weekend 230 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,400 and we're going to be showing product for the first time. 231 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,600 And we're really proud of it. You know, we've got beautiful 232 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,720 tablescapes. Go back to food. 233 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,840 It all starts with family being together around a table and 234 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,200 eating together. So of course we had to start 235 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,040 with plates and table runners and tablecloths and things like 236 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,640 that. And anyone listening to this, 237 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,720 where can they go to have a look at it? 238 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,040 Well, hopefully it will be everywhere, you know, Hopefully 239 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,520 it'll be available to everybody. You know, we want to make sure 240 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,160 that it's accessible. If you think of Italian brands, 241 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,520 you think of luxury brands which are not that accessible to many 242 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,200 people. And I think, you know, we just 243 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,880 want to make it affordable. We want to make it, you know, 244 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,360 for everybody, really. And it will be direct to 245 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,000 consumer. At the moment we're going to be 246 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,520 partnering up with different retailers. 247 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,760 I think so. Now today we're on going on a 248 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,680 style journey together, your style journey. 249 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,520 So let's start by you telling me what you're wearing. 250 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,240 Oh, this dress is from me and M I love me and him. 251 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,880 It's a lovely brand. I think it's really wearable. 252 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,320 After the podcast today, I'll be going to Heart Radio to do my 253 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,880 radio show. So I'm always very aware of kind 254 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,600 of not being too dressed up, but I always want to be kind of 255 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,760 formal when I'm, when I'm hosting. 256 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,960 We interview different kinds of people and it's an office 257 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,480 corporate environment. So I'm always quite aware of 258 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,040 that. So, yeah, so, you know, I just 259 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,280 like the pattern. I think I've got this in the 260 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,840 sale actually. Good girl. 261 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,120 Yeah, and the boot. These I actually pinched off a 262 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,720 job. I actually don't know where 263 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,960 these are from. This is a very stylist Jennifer 264 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,880 great. She she's brilliant. 265 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,880 Yeah, she's fantastic. She she styles like Catherine 266 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,840 Ryan and like like some really stylish and she's been on your 267 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,920 podcast. Catherine hasn't. 268 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,960 She she has, yes. So yeah, I pinched these off of 269 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,560 a job that she did for me before Christmas, so she let me have 270 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:46,040 them. I know that's the great thing 271 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,320 about doing shoots. I've always kind of got my eye 272 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,480 out on things. I think where are they going to 273 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,360 end up? Hopefully in my wardrobe home 274 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,360 with. Me now You grew up in Kent, yes? 275 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,120 Were you very aware of your parents style? 276 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,520 Well, my dad was a scaffolder, so not so much. 277 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:10,320 Yeah, not really. My mum is a tomboy, so I never 278 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,360 remember my mother like having manicures or facials or massages 279 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,960 or anything like that. You know, I come from a very, a 280 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,360 very working class family, so there wasn't a lot of emphasis 281 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,960 on clothes and style and beauty and appearance and things like 282 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,000 that. Coming back to growing up, what 283 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,760 what was your earliest memory of putting Bring something on that 284 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:36,080 just made you feel that little bit taller, more grown up, more 285 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,520 at home in your clothes? Well, I would say going back to 286 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,760 my grandma, she was the one that had, you know, all the kind of 287 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,520 amazing, you know, clothes in her wardrobe, like amazing coats 288 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,040 and jewellery and things like that. 289 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,600 So I always felt like my grandma was the glamorous 1, whereas my 290 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,880 mother was more kind of a tomboy and not so much into clothes and 291 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,240 fashion. And so I would always stay with 292 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,800 my grandma at weekends and she would let me put make up on and 293 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,520 dress up. And so during the 80s, I was 294 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,360 obsessed with Madonna. So I would have like the side 295 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,920 ponytail. I had a really bad perm, black 296 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:15,000 eyeliner, like tights, loads of crosses and crucifixes, like 297 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,200 very 80s, you know, the lace gloves. 298 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,280 So that was kind of as a child, like when I first remember 299 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,440 playing around with like, you know, my looks and, and what I 300 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,400 love. So that kind of whole pop rock 301 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,120 kind of era was what I loved. And do you think there's 302 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,520 something in you that still reaches back to that glam rock 303 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,400 era? I think once my body started 304 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,920 developing and I started to become, I mean, I wanted, I 305 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,840 wanted to be a ballet dancer. I would, Can you imagine not 306 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,320 with these boots, It's never going to happen. 307 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,080 So I think the things that I wanted to do as a kid, I think 308 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,760 once my body started just becoming what it is now, I it 309 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,680 just all my dreams and aspirations went out the window 310 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,560 and I thought, oh, OK, I guess my future is going to be glamour 311 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,800 modelling. How did you handle that at the 312 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,840 time I? Think it was really difficult. 313 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,720 I think it's really difficult. I was at a performing arts 314 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,120 school in London. I was at Italia Conti and I 315 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,800 remember I'd been there for like 2 years and you know, I was in 316 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,480 ballet class every day at like, you know, 8:00 AM. 317 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,280 And then with my little fun and, you know, doing, you know, and, 318 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,000 and just, I just love dance so much. 319 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,640 And then all of a sudden I hit like 12/13 and started 320 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,320 developing boobs. And then you'd, the boys would 321 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,320 like look through the window be watching me in the dance class 322 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,040 because I have boobs that all make fun of me. 323 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,480 And I was mortified. I was so embarrassed of my body 324 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,400 because it was just developing quicker than the other girls. 325 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,160 And it was just all of a sudden I had this like womanly body at 326 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,080 the age of like 1314. And it was just, it was really 327 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,000 difficult. But obviously now I love it but. 328 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,880 It is almost traumatic if you're coming from that world of ballet 329 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,960 dancing and then suddenly your body, it becomes this different. 330 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,960 Yeah. Physicality. 331 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,319 What was your light bulb moment between developing the boobs and 332 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:12,760 the curves to thinking actually this is great. 333 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,359 I think that took me a long time. 334 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,480 I think it was my mother really that kind of looked at me and 335 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,319 was like, I think you should be a model because my older sister 336 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:23,920 Sasha was a model. She was a fashion model. 337 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,280 She was 5 foot 9. She had a cropped like kind of 338 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,560 really short hair, really kind of grungy looking, but she had 339 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,440 an incredible body. And my mum would kind of look at 340 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,600 Sasha's life flying around the world, you know, working for 341 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,280 Vogue, you know, she was signed with models one and she had this 342 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,320 really amazing, like high fashion life. 343 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,080 And my mum kind of looked at me. She was like, well, I think you 344 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,480 could kind of do something like that. 345 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,040 You could be a model, but I just didn't want to be, I was like, 346 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,240 no mum, you know, I want to be a dancer or I want to be an 347 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,960 actress. I might perform in arts school, 348 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,800 but it was really my mum that kind of encouraged me to, to try 349 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,760 modelling and, and she would like, you know, take me around 350 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,080 to agencies and try to get me signed up really young. 351 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,320 And she really wanted that life for me because my sister just 352 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,720 had such an incredible life being a model. 353 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,200 So I think it was really kind of my mum's influence that ended up 354 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,360 making me kind of choose that path in the beginning once I 355 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:20,560 kind of left school. But in terms of, you know, me 356 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,000 embracing it and coming to terms with it, I would say now I think 357 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,360 for many years I've wanted to it not be about my looks or my 358 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:30,960 body. And you know, I wanted to be a 359 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,320 serious actress or a broadcaster. 360 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,840 I've always kind of fought against it in a way and wanted 361 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,800 to do other things because maybe I could have just been a model 362 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,320 and been very successful as a model. 363 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,040 But I always wanted to do a bit more and say, you know, there's 364 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,480 a bit more to me than that. You know, I do have a brain and 365 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,520 I do have other interests and other things I want to do and 366 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,480 something to say. So I think it probably, I think 367 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,240 now when I get asked to do a modelling job, I'm delighted. 368 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,600 I'm like, wow, amazing. Like, you know, I really embrace 369 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,480 it much more So because, you know, you think it's because 370 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,720 it's rare now, whereas back then I guess you're just like, well, 371 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,040 that's easy to do that. I mean, you have this 372 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,160 extraordinary confidence. Where does that come from, do 373 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,840 you think? Oh, I don't think so. 374 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,000 I think I always suffer a bit of imposter syndrome in everything 375 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,040 I do. I think so. 376 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,800 I think so. I think that's part of the I 377 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:24,920 don't know. I think you just, you know, you 378 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,160 put your lipstick on and, you know, you curl your hair and 379 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,400 you're out the door and you just put on a face, don't you? 380 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,400 I think there's a lot of times where you think, can I do this? 381 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,840 And we're actually, I mean, especially when I'm on a panel 382 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,760 like Loose Women and you've got, you know, Jay Moore and Janet 383 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,240 St. Porter and all these incredible 384 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,280 journalists and they're such, you know, brilliant women and 385 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,720 they're clever writers and they're so informed. 386 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,520 And you sometimes feel sometimes like, well, you know, they have 387 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,440 so much to say and you think, God, am I going to make myself 388 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,440 look silly or, you know, do I belong here? 389 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,600 I think there's there's always that element, I think. 390 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,560 I think it would be strange if you didn't feel that sometimes. 391 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,880 That's that's healthy. That's toes to the fire, as I 392 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,640 call it. Yeah, I never think I'm the 393 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,960 finished article and I always think I'm probably the most 394 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,400 stupid in the room and there's more I could learn so and I 395 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:15,000 don't mind that, you know? And your body confidence, where 396 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,200 does that come from? I would say a lot of it is from 397 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,480 relationships as well. You know, I think if you, you 398 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,280 know, if you love somebody and they love how you look, you 399 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,680 know, my husband loves my body. He loves my curves. 400 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,800 He's never made me feel. We've been together 11 years. 401 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,960 He's, he's never made me feel insecure. 402 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,360 I think when we met, I was maybe a size 8 to 10 dress and now I'm 403 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:39,480 a, you know, 12 to 14. So I've definitely changed. 404 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,000 But he's never acknowledged that or noticed that. 405 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,160 I think he loves it and I think that so that that helps. 406 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:53,080 But I think, I don't know. I think I have to. 407 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,880 I think I feel a responsibility to feel confident. 408 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,000 I do feel that. I feel like I'm in the public 409 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:04,600 eye and I see women, I won't say who, but I showed, you know, 410 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,160 some of my lingerie and swimwear pictures that I just shot for 411 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,600 next to some women that I work with who are in the public eye. 412 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,200 And I said, I don't really want them heavily retouched. 413 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,120 I think it's important to see a little roll over the OR a little 414 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:20,040 bit of a crease there or something. 415 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,080 And what do you think? And they said, oh, you're really 416 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,440 brave. I wouldn't be able to do that. 417 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,720 I'd have to, you know, because it's so easy to tweak pictures. 418 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,360 It's so easy to edit pictures and it takes a second and it 419 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:33,480 still looks like you, but it's not quite you and I really don't 420 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,240 want that. I really think it's important to 421 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:40,480 show who I am now and who what my body is and I am scared about 422 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,720 it, but I also think it's important to do that. 423 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,160 I think that's where I think that's where we're at and that's 424 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,120 how we move things along. I love that. 425 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,680 So I think it's important. But what advice would you have 426 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,280 to those women who just aren't fully comfortable in their body? 427 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,320 Oh, my God, Do we know enough of them? 428 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,160 Yeah. I mean. 429 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,160 I don't think I have advice. I think, I think by putting out 430 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,640 pictures of real bodies and and having real women's bodies 431 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,120 represented in campaigns and in fashion and on the catwalk and 432 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:14,960 on magazines, women of all shapes and sizes and of all 433 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,080 ages. I think that's how we move it 434 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,840 along. I don't think you can give women 435 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,440 advice. I think they're not seeing it 436 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,520 and that's why they feel insecure, because they don't 437 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,360 feel represented. And I think that's how we're 438 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:28,640 doing it. So that's why I want to be 439 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,960 Alondra's swimmer model at 46, that's a size 4, you know, 14, 440 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:36,560 because I don't see it anywhere. So maybe if they see it, they 441 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,360 won't feel so insecure because they'll realise that they're 442 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:42,240 normal. That's really beautiful and 443 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:47,160 really generous and I love that. I think it's to be applauded, I 444 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,400 really do. Would you say you've got a style 445 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,720 icon? I think it's more the lifestyle 446 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,000 really, that I aspire to. Brigitte Bardeau, who? 447 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,920 You remind me. Of she's Oh, you are. 448 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,560 Is that Bridget there? The Terry? 449 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,200 Yeah, Yeah, it's the Terry. Raquel Welch. 450 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,440 You know, everyone that Terry O'Neill photographs. 451 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,360 So Raquel Welch, Brigitte Bardeau, all those women. 452 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:13,080 I mean, I love those, that 70s bohemian kind of Sancha Pay kind 453 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,000 of vibes. But I also love, you know, 454 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,600 Sophia Loren, Claudia Cardinelli. 455 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,160 I love the 50s. Gina Lola Brigitta, I see, I see 456 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,640 you. I see you in a Dolce campaign. 457 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:24,960 I just. Love it. 458 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,440 Well, Maya Jammer in the new in the Dolce campaign. 459 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,520 Like she's got such a beautiful body. 460 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,560 She's such a beautiful woman. Like I just love that whole. 461 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,560 But I think it's the essence of it and the lifestyle that I'm 462 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,600 drawn to. It's not just the, the, you 463 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,920 know, the physical beauty, it's just everything they embody. 464 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,200 I just love it. It's the storytelling it. 465 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,440 Is. I think so. 466 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,960 I think it remember. You as you as the producer. 467 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,280 Absolutely. Yeah. 468 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,480 I love it. I love that. 469 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,200 Do you think about the stories that your outfits will tell when 470 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,800 you put them on? Are you conscious of who you're 471 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,200 dressing for? I don't think you are in the 472 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,720 moment. I think in hindsight you look 473 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,560 back and you think, oh, that was a real moment. 474 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,040 I think if I look back over my career to some maybe red carpet 475 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:11,840 moments, I remember when I put on like this kind of pink kind 476 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,000 of bias cut Julia McDonald dress for the premiere of Snatch in 477 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,600 London. And it was, you know, a real 478 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,000 kind of moment in time when there was a lot of focus on, you 479 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,080 know, those guys and what films they were making. 480 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:28,400 And that whole kind of, it wasn't like a kind of, I mean, 481 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,200 it didn't really have, I mean, it had stripper vibes, but it 482 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,320 wasn't it was, it was like stripper couture. 483 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,800 Do you know what I mean? Because it was it was, yeah, it 484 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,480 was very much, you know, cut up the bomb and, you know, you're 485 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,840 kind of revealing everything. And it was a real moment. 486 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,600 But I think it was off the back of Liz Hurley wearing those kind 487 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,960 of safety pin Versace dresses. So I think at the time I was 488 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,960 experimenting a lot with that kind of, you know, being just 489 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,600 really confident and, you know, showing a lot of skin. 490 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,920 And I think that was very timely. 491 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,400 So when I look back, I think that kind of tells us the story 492 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,880 of that time because I don't think you'd see that on the red 493 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,000 carpet now. So it's really hard to know in 494 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,520 the moment that you're creating a moment because you're in the 495 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,320 moment. Does that make sense? 496 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,840 That makes sense. I mean, I, I, I know that you've 497 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,920 talked about your, your sort of style journey. 498 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,600 It's sort of almost chapters you just run me through. 499 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:27,560 Teenage Kelly was who? I mean the street trav like 500 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:33,160 gold, gold hoops, scrunchies, track suits, like I was very 501 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,840 like juicy kind of well, that was a bit late. 502 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,320 I was definitely a juicy kind of Ugg boot girl. 503 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,480 When I moved to LA. That was very much that 504 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,240 lifestyle kind of running around, you know, getting, you 505 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,440 know, at Fred Siegel's very much T-shirt culture. 506 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,280 But I think as a teenager, very kind of St. girl council kind of 507 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,280 estate like style. And then it kind of moved into a 508 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,360 little bit of an element of that kind of St. wear, but a bit more 509 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:00,760 elevated because it was more expensive, obviously in Ugg boot 510 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,000 and a juicy tracksuit was, you know, a bit more expensive, but 511 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:07,120 definitely lending. And then I think when I went 512 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:09,960 into my Love Island era, that's when I started getting into the 513 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,040 more period corseted 50s. And I remember Julia MacDonald 514 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,360 saying this suits you like when I started turning up to 515 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:20,840 premieres in vintage dresses. And it was really, but then 516 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,960 that's when I met Billy Zane, who was an actor and he was a 517 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,720 bit older than me. And he would introduce me to a 518 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,840 lot of movies that hadn't seen. And he would kind of say to me, 519 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,400 you really look like these actresses back from this time. 520 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,920 And so he really helped me. I was kind of his muse for like 521 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,480 a few years. And he would really help with my 522 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,480 style. And, you know, I remember him 523 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,320 kind of like throwing out all my juicy track suits going, you 524 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,440 can't be wearing this anymore. You need to put some like 525 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,000 something nicer on. And I was kind of upset and all 526 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,040 my friends were like, Oh my God, he's really controlling. 527 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,840 But actually I'm, I appreciated it because it was time that I 528 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,520 kind of moved on. So he was really, he kind of 529 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,720 really helped in terms of all of that, I think. 530 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,320 And was there any stylist in particular that you had worked 531 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,240 with during through the years that that you felt was sort of 532 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,120 really helped evolve you or would that have been Julian, for 533 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,600 example? Not a designer, Marcella 534 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,680 Martinelli, who's Italian. I mean, she worked with me when 535 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,200 I was, you know, modelling lingerie for the Daily Star 536 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,600 newspaper right up until I was hosting TV shows in my 30s on 537 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,360 ITV. And I was wearing a lot of kind 538 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:30,040 of Herve Leisure and Balmain and, you know, and, you know, 539 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,480 also very sexy figure hugging. But what I love about Marcella 540 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,720 is she never shield away from, you know, dressing my body. 541 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,160 You know, she didn't. A lot of stylists I've worked 542 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,480 with I've really struggled with over the years because I do 543 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,760 think there's that element of curvy women not really being 544 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,280 represented in fashion that much. 545 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,120 And for that reason, you don't really find clothes that really 546 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:53,840 kind of suit your body. And I think Marcella always kind 547 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,280 of found things that really suited my body. 548 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,840 And so I work with her quite a lot. 549 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,320 But yeah, it's been really hard actually to to find my person. 550 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,720 I feel like it's taken me a while to really figure out what 551 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,840 my own style is. And I think it has definitely 552 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,120 changed and evolved with whatever I'm doing in the 553 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,520 moment. So I've definitely changed a lot 554 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,520 as the decades have gone on. Have you found it hard to on the 555 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,000 on the fit front? Because obviously you've got 556 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,520 this tiny little waist and you've got curves, and a lot of 557 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,960 designers do not cut for real women. 558 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,880 Yeah, did. Yeah, did. 559 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,440 Did you experience that or have you experienced that? 560 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,240 Yes, I mean, I think that the designers that I would lean 561 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,440 towards would be Alexander McQueen, I thought was great. 562 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,440 I mean, I think he designed some incredible, incredible clothes 563 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,360 that used to fit me really well. Roland Murray was fantastic. 564 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,600 There was a time where there were that kind of style of a bit 565 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,920 more structured and and, you know, things that would kind of 566 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,240 nip you in at the waist. Vivian Westford, for example, 567 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,600 was great. So I would look towards those 568 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,840 designers that did, you know, kind of acknowledge a waste and 569 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,560 a curve. There wasn't many of them, but 570 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,760 there were a few. And I definitely think mosquito, 571 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,720 for example. So maybe, yeah. 572 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,760 So there are a few. Scrolling back to your modelling 573 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,040 that your early modelling days, your Page 3 modelling days, how 574 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,320 were you dressing then on the way to a shoot where you would 575 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,480 be taking off most of your clothes, if not all of them. 576 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,080 I was so interested because I think when I was glamour 577 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,920 modelling, I was still kind of a bit of a kind of young geeky 578 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,120 teenage girl. So even though I had this body, 579 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,440 I think it, it didn't represent my soul and who I was. 580 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,120 I was still a bit kind of preppy. 581 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,160 And I remember turning up with like little glasses on and hair 582 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,760 back and, and, you know, not glamorous at all. 583 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,800 I'd sit in the makeup chair and then I'd have, you know, the 584 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,400 hair blow dried and the makeup and put some lingerie on. 585 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,280 And that was, you know, that was kind of, you know, that was 586 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,880 that, but it wasn't who I was as a person. 587 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,880 So like I said, it took a while for the body and the and the 588 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,720 brain and the soul to all kind of connect. 589 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,960 It was all a bit distracted for a while. 590 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,320 And you it was like a child, child face and a porn star body. 591 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,360 It was, it was like that, you know, it just took a while for 592 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,520 it all to kind of fit together. And you clearly feel like it's 593 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,200 all fit together. Now I think so. 594 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,560 Now hopefully. Yeah, I think. 595 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,680 So, I mean, I'm 46 now, I think. Yeah, now I've just accepted 596 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,120 this is my body and and I love my body and you know, I just, 597 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,160 yeah, I think it's all kind of it all. 598 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,240 It all comes together in the end, doesn't it? 599 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,560 Totally. I mean, so if I asked you to 600 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,840 describe your style DNA in three words, oh gosh, 3 words, would 601 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,200 those be? I think confidence, I think 602 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,360 strong and I think fearless. Oh yeah, I. 603 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,840 Like that? Confidence strong and fearless. 604 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,160 I'd like to think that's my style. 605 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:02,840 Really, really inspiring. Now, you won FH MS-100 Sexiest 606 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,520 Women in the World title in 2005. 607 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,800 I mean, that's 21. Years. 608 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,080 I remind everyone at work about that and they always tell me 609 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,080 it's 21 years ago, get over it. Grazia's best British female 610 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,720 body in 2006, You graced the 2010 September cover of American 611 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,480 Playboy. I mean, wow. 612 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,160 How do you feel about the aging process? 613 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,080 In our industry, it's, I mean, we were talking about this 614 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,400 yesterday. I mean, people think we're going 615 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,520 to probably live to 150 at some point. 616 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,360 It's just, it's just, yeah, if you want to, it's kind of 617 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,480 extraordinary when you think, when I think about I look now at 618 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,960 46 to how maybe my grandma looked at 46, it's so different. 619 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,440 So I think, yeah, I just think there's so many things now that, 620 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,240 you know, I think we're obsessed with youth. 621 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,080 I think we're obsessed with looking young. 622 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,440 I'm I'm comfortable with the ageing process as long as I'm 623 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,360 all about quality over quantity. So as long as I feel good and I 624 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,160 can do what I want to do and be healthy and, and I'm still 625 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,760 loving life, then I'm happy. I'm happy to get older, but I 626 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,000 definitely feel happier as I get older for sure. 627 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,080 I think every decade I definitely feel more just 628 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,200 happier with how things are and I don't get stressed about 629 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,680 things that aren't working out on. 630 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,000 I don't, you know, just everything. 631 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,840 I just take everything in my stride now. 632 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,480 Whereas I used to get overwhelmed and it was a big 633 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,480 deal. Everything was a big deal. 634 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,320 And now it's just, yeah, duck, you know, water off a duck's 635 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:36,800 back. I don't. 636 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,960 I don't care as much. And that gets better. 637 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,760 Yeah, Oh, it does it. Really does. 638 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,760 Really does. Where are you at on tweakments? 639 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:50,440 I don't do a lot I'm I'm not really into invasive treatment. 640 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,320 So I think there's a lot you can do now. 641 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,160 Things like M face sculpting, which is, you know, just kind 642 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,840 of, I don't even know what it does, but just kind of like 643 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,840 toning and moisturizing hydration. 644 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,360 You know, I love having my eyebrows done. 645 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,120 I love, you know, having some colour put through my hair, but 646 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,920 I don't cover up greys or anything. 647 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,080 God, you are a poster child. Yeah, I just try to be, but I 648 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,280 just don't. I'm not. 649 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,960 I don't really have any. I've never had any surgery or 650 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,720 anything like that. I've had a bit of Botox here, 651 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,760 but that's only because I frown a lot when people are talking to 652 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,520 me and they think that I'm not liking what they say. 653 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,080 So I kind of relax that. So a little bit of a little bit 654 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,920 of Botox around this area and that's about it really. 655 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,320 Nothing else. Anything you recommend? 656 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,320 My God, I yeah, facelift. I don't know. 657 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,080 Yeah. I mean, they say just one 658 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,360 facelift is probably all you need if if that's what you want 659 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,080 like round here, but that's about it really. 660 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,840 And I look in the mirror and then I check. 661 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,640 You look fantastic. No, no, no. 662 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,280 You look great. Not about me. 663 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,520 You have a famously tight marriage. 664 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,120 Does your husband Jeremy have strong opinions on what you 665 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,200 wear? He doesn't, he doesn't. 666 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,719 I have strong opinions on what he wears, which I try and rein 667 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,560 in. No, I mean he is Italian so he 668 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,040 does like to look nice and he's got some lovely clothes, so. 669 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,280 What does he love to see you in? What's date night? 670 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,719 Kelly wearing date night. Kelly is, I would say just 671 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,760 probably or just a really elegant dress and a heel. 672 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:32,440 You know, we live in town, so we're not. 673 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,280 We don't really dress up, dress up. 674 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,440 I feel like we don't feel the need to and we and when we go 675 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,880 out it's usually to the local pub. 676 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,760 So we don't do a lot of bougie restaurants and things like 677 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,600 that. We're quite low key. 678 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,120 We're not kind of, I look at David and Victoria Beckham on 679 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,520 their nights out, on their date nights and they are like, it's 680 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,920 like they're going to a red carpet. 681 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,440 Like I'm not that, you know, we'll go because we take the dog 682 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,680 everywhere. So if we go out for dinner, it's 683 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,880 usually the pub. The best, the best way. 684 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,600 So I will dress up a bit, but not, you know, we don't really 685 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,280 do a lot of date nights. We should do more, actually. 686 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,440 That's actually made me think we'd actually don't get dressed 687 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,000 up enough for each other. That's terrible, isn't it? 688 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,040 That's what 11 years and the dorm marriage do. 689 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,960 Yeah. Tell me about your wedding 690 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,280 dress. There's a local dressmaker where 691 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,600 I live who's fantastic. She does a lot of alterations 692 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,440 for me for things. And I called her and I said, 693 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,760 look, I, I want to design my own wedding dress. 694 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,680 So she took me to this beautiful, I think it's called 695 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,520 Joel and Sons. Do you know this place? 696 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,760 OK, so we went to Joel and sons. So we started experimenting with 697 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,680 like lots of like Italian lace and we made a few kind of like, 698 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,280 we made like a lovely little kind of shirt dress with a 699 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,400 beautiful lace kind of sleeves. And So what I was making like 700 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,920 different things, not really knowing what I wanted to wear 701 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,240 because I thought it was going to be a really small wedding. 702 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:54,840 It was supposed to be a small wedding. 703 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,800 But my husband being Italian, it kind of, it just got a little 704 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,440 bit out of hand. And so instead of just being 705 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,440 like 15 of us, it turned out to be like 100 people. 706 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,920 And it was a big Italian wedding and it all in Italy, in Italy. 707 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,640 And it all got a bit much and I realised I needed a proper 708 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,480 Italian wedding dress that obviously I don't have the 709 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,600 experience to design anything like that. 710 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,640 I'm really good friends with Savannah Miller and she 711 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,360 contacted me. She said I would love to make 712 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,440 your wedding dress and she and her team made my beautiful 713 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,120 wedding dress so. Yeah, so describe it. 714 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,920 So it was corseted, it had lots of like beautiful kind of 715 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,720 ruffles here, beautiful veil. It had lots of Italian lace, 716 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:40,800 really delicate lace around. It was high cut here, so lace 717 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,880 around the chest. It kind of was inspired, I 718 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,320 think, by Sophia Loren's wedding dress that she wore in a movie 719 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,040 that I'd seen, and a bit kind of Grace Kelly as well when she got 720 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,040 married in Monaco. So it kind of had that very 721 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,760 classic, timeless feel to it, but it was very heavy. 722 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,400 And obviously Italy is very hot, so I just do remember it being 723 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,920 quite heavy in me, just sweating a lot. 724 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,880 So I wore it for the ceremony and then I changed into some of 725 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,760 the other dresses that I designed. 726 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,080 OK, so then what? I had, yeah. 727 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,200 So I had like three other changes. 728 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,480 So I went for this kind of little kind of blazer which had 729 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:26,040 a shorter veil for the party the night before the welcome dinner. 730 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,760 I had like some white trousers which had, I can't remember that 731 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,680 I had like a kind of, I think it had like a kind of veil on the 732 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,000 back that was attached. I can't remember. 733 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,920 Lots of different changes. It was when you get, when you 734 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,040 get married aboard, it's like, it's not one day, is it? 735 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,320 It's just like multiple changes multiple. 736 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,000 Events. Yeah, it was fun though. 737 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,800 I just remember experimenting a lot and having a lot of fun with 738 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,240 it, but my wedding was quite traumatic. 739 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,280 I don't know if have you been married. 740 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,680 Yes, twice. Yeah. 741 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,520 Oh, my God. You did it. 742 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,800 I could only. I could do it again. 743 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,120 I found it so stressful, the whole thing. 744 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,920 I don't even remember. I don't even remember what I 745 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,600 ate. Everyone says, Oh my God, the 746 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,960 desserts at your wedding were unbel. 747 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,560 I don't even remember. It was such a blur. 748 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,520 I found it quite overwhelming, getting married. 749 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,280 Did you? Yeah, the whole thing, even 750 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,760 talking about it now, it's making me hot. 751 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,000 It was a lot. I don't ever want to do anything 752 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,040 like that again. Have you ever been a bridesmaid? 753 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,200 I have when I was a kid, yeah, that was much better to be a 754 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,000 bridesmaid, not the bride. No. 755 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,240 No traumatic bridesmaids dresses. 756 00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:25,520 No. Not at all. 757 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,360 What do you think is the most important event that you've ever 758 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,480 had to dress for? I think my wedding definitely my 759 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,400 wedding. You know, we were talking about 760 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,640 red carpets earlier. How do you go about choosing 761 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,120 your red carpet look? Well, it all depends on the time 762 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,320 of year, obviously. Yeah, I think a lot of red 763 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,880 carpets, unfortunately, in the UK. 764 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,560 Oh, wet, wet red carpets. Yeah. 765 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,640 I mean, I love Ala red carpet because it's always sunny and 766 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,240 you feel fabulous. But it all depends, you know? 767 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:58,120 It depends, you know, if I'm at the Cannes Film Festival, for 768 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,640 example, depends what designers are there and who's showing and 769 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,360 you know, who's willing to dress me. 770 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,960 Really. I mean, it is about that. 771 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,640 I mean, a lot of designers want to dress you. 772 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,480 Some don't. It all depends. 773 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,160 It's not always your choice. Do you ever take that personally 774 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,920 when a designer says no, I'm not dressing you? 775 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,720 Well, it's just depends on what you know, what you're doing and 776 00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,680 if if what they want, how they see their brand, if it's a line 777 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,480 in with your brand. I mean, it's all about that, 778 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,040 isn't it? Especially with fashion, I 779 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,320 think, you know, I would imagine, I mean, you're a 780 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,720 fashion designer. Was there people that you wanted 781 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,240 to dress and people you didn't want to dress? 782 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:33,720 I mean if you dress Princess Diana, are you then going to 783 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,680 address the page three girl for the for the same red carpet? 784 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,760 You know, it's it's all dependent on sort of where 785 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,560 you're taking the the brand. Yeah, really. 786 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:48,080 But I I feel like that has all all those edges have been 787 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,440 blurred now. I feel it's a different era now. 788 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,520 Yeah, I really do. You know, where content creators 789 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,080 are really being taken seriously by the fashion world? 790 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,360 Yeah, when they weren't 10 years ago. 791 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,200 Do you know who who never is never snobby and who loves 792 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,200 everyone and celebrates everyone is Philip Tracy. 793 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,080 I always found him to be so lovely. 794 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,440 I feel like he treated me the same that how he treats the 795 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,800 royal family when he dresses them for Ascot. 796 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,360 That's how he treated me. And, you know, I think that says 797 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,320 a lot for their confidence in their craft and what they they 798 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,200 do, that actually their work speaks for itself. 799 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:32,280 And it actually is irrelevant who it's sitting on. 800 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,560 He makes hats for everybody. And actually, that's my point. 801 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,720 I I just think we're, we're in a different era now. 802 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,440 Yeah. Who are your favorite designers 803 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,400 of the moment, or brands or High Street stores? 804 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,440 Where do you really enjoy going into? 805 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,240 I just think and the French brands for me that what I shop 806 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,880 and what I live in day-to-day are those kind of mid brands. 807 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,680 I love the bash, the Sandro, the Marge, the me and Ember. 808 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,680 You know, those brands for me are great if I'm, if I'm kind of 809 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,200 walking the dog and I'm out and about, I love Valley. 810 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,000 I think that as terms of leisure, where I think Valley's 811 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,920 like fantastic. And I always feel a kind of 812 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,600 smarter version of, you know, dog mum or someone that's, you 813 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,720 know, meeting a friend for coffee that's just like run out 814 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:20,800 the gym. I think there's, I think the 815 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,440 brands, those that really kind of capture your lifestyle in 816 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,120 terms of like luxury brands. And with money was absolutely no 817 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,080 object. I think Chanel. 818 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,520 I do think Chanel. I just think I just love 819 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,400 everything they do. I love their bags, I love their. 820 00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:39,560 I love their shows that they put on. 821 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,800 I just think, I just think they have that really good kind of 822 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,880 balance of that kind of French chic with that kind of rock 823 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,440 edge, that rock'n'roll edge. It's just cool. 824 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,520 It never feels mumsy. It's just, I just love it. 825 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,640 I love Chanel. Interesting and and handbags. 826 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,800 Handbag wise I would probably always go for either. 827 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,840 Probably Chanel. Probably Chanel or a nice Hermes 828 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,280 Birkin. Actually should solve my Birkin 829 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,640 Not that long ago. Did you? 830 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,640 For about 5 times what I bought it for. 831 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,480 Go away. Yeah. 832 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,320 How did you sell it? I said I sold it through a, it 833 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,680 wasn't versatile, but it was like a, a company like that. 834 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:24,400 I mean, it was a beautiful bag, but I'd had it and I'd used it 835 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,120 and I'd enjoyed it and, you know. 836 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,400 And now do you still buy Chanel bags, designer bags or where? 837 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,120 Where are you at on the designer bag front? 838 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:38,360 I mean, it's, I do, but I'm very mindful that I live in London 839 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,920 and I don't, no, I don't want to be targeted for my bags because 840 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,760 people are. So I'm very careful about, you 841 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,760 know, very expensive designer things and jewellery and things 842 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,360 like that. I don't really purchase things 843 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,480 like that anymore and I don't really have things like that 844 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,680 anymore. Let's talk about glam. 845 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,600 Yes, obviously. You get hair, makeup, nails, all 846 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,360 the rest of them done for you a lot. 847 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:10,400 Do you do your own at all? Sometimes I do, but a lot of the 848 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,160 time I have great girls who come and give me a blow to. 849 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,600 Like today, this is Mel, she came and did my hair and makeup 850 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,320 for you. Because sometimes it's nice and 851 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,560 I feel like it is kind of part of it. 852 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,920 That adds to your confidence, you know? 853 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,040 You know people are going to see you, so you want to be your best 854 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,160 self. And it's not my area of 855 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,120 expertise doing hair and makeup. I'm not. 856 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,560 I'm OK at doing my own, but I'm not brilliant at it. 857 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,520 You know, but so interestingly, you're off to heart radio next, 858 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,520 but you feel the need to dress for the event. 859 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:53,480 Well, radio's very much a male dominated culture, so there's a 860 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,120 lot of men in the office. So it is funny because I would 861 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,840 never go into heart like usually in a lovely dress and and hair 862 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,000 and makeup like this. So when I go to work today, they 863 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,040 will be like where have you been? 864 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,360 Because I go in usually a little bit kind of on the down low. 865 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,080 I wouldn't be like this, but I'd wear an all right dress. 866 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,840 But it I'm very much a corporate kind of I wouldn't. 867 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,240 I don't go in as like it's funny actually, because some of the 868 00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:21,240 girls do. I know Amanda Holden, she's in 869 00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:23,600 full glam in the morning. I don't know how she does it, 870 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,640 but I don't I get a little bit shy. 871 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,640 I like to be one of the boys, but they will, they'll all say 872 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,200 to me wherever you've been, what have you been doing? 873 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,920 You've been on TV today because they'll, they noticed the 874 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,320 difference straight away. That's. 875 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,720 So funny. Let's talk about your wardrobe. 876 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,120 Is it very organized? It is actually, I'm really good 877 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,120 at like kind of, yeah, I don't like having a lot of things and 878 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,760 a lot of choice. I get quite overwhelmed. 879 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,480 So I'm really good at having a good clear out and taking things 880 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,320 to charity or reselling things. I'm really, really good at that 881 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,880 and I've done that a lot over the years. 882 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,520 And for those important red carpet moments, have you, have 883 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,840 you kept those pieces? Are they archived or do they 884 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,200 just go straight back to the design? 885 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,560 They've all been auctioned. I've got everything auctioned. 886 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,680 I've been, yeah. I really feel it's really 887 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,880 cathartic. I, you know, I had a whole 888 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,560 storage unit that was full of vintage pieces, designer pieces, 889 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:19,600 and it was all kind of stored really well. 890 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,080 And it was all in the right paper. 891 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,360 And it was like, you know, as if it was in a museum and it was 892 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,160 just kind of sitting in a room. And I just thought, you know 893 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,600 what? I let me just kind of get rid of 894 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,280 this now. And I feel so much better for 895 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,840 it. I think when I got married, it 896 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,200 was really a turn in a page. And it was really kind of about, 897 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,080 you know, downsizing my life, downsizing the clutter and 898 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,040 letting go of things that no longer serve me. 899 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,200 And a part of that was getting rid of a lot of wardrobe. 900 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,480 And how did you actually physically do that? 901 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,960 Did you do it through an auction house? 902 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,440 Auction house yes, Hanson's auctioneers, they did a big kind 903 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,680 of sale and. And it was the Kelly Brook. 904 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,160 It was kind of like some of it was kind of related to TV shows 905 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,560 or some of it was things that I'd won. 906 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,760 Like even if it was like, you know, I'd been a showgirl at the 907 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,080 Crazy Horse in Paris for a minute and I had like some bosti 908 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,720 crystals, like bustiers and things like that. 909 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:12,400 And we, you know, we auctioned those and Strictly Come Dancing. 910 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,600 I had outfits from that show that I'd done back in the day. 911 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,840 And, you know, I just, I just sold everything. 912 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,680 It all just went. Over the years you've obviously 913 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,600 had your portrait taken a lot. So you've you've had the 914 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,840 modelling persona, but then you you personally have had your 915 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,400 portrait taken a lot as you. Are you very controlling about 916 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,800 that image? I, I used to be very, very 917 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,240 strict about who would take my picture and who the glam team 918 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:45,280 were and, and everything. And, and I think that did serve 919 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,960 me really well for a moment in time when I kind of knew what 920 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,600 was what. I think now I kind of trust 921 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,600 other people to tell me because I'm not, it's not really, I'm 922 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,080 not a model anymore. So I'm not in the game as much 923 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,960 as what I used to be. I work in audio now I'm a radio 924 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,480 presenter. So I'm not having my hair and 925 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,720 makeup done every day and having my picture taken every day. 926 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:09,200 So I definitely a guided a bit more. 927 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,760 But back in the day, like for example, when I shot Playboy, I 928 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,360 was very strict about who was going to take that shit. 929 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,200 Like who was going to photograph me for Playboy? 930 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,440 I thought that was very because Playboy can be many different 931 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,960 things to people. And I thought I wanted it to be 932 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,120 more of a fashion moment rather than for the male gaze, even 933 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,920 though it is. And so having a female 934 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,280 photographer like Ellen von Onworth shoot me for that was 935 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,640 really important because she, in my eyes, has taken pictures of 936 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,920 some of the most beautiful women in the world and some of the 937 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,680 most iconic pictures if you think of, you know, Anna Nicole 938 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,120 Smith in the guest campaign or Claudia Schiffer. 939 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,440 I remember Claudia Schiff has showed me some beautiful images 940 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,360 of her that Ellen had taken in San Tropez that had never been 941 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,000 published. And I was. 942 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,080 I. Was at Claudia's house and she 943 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,880 was like, showing me all these kind of outtakes and she'd never 944 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,000 published them because at the time I think she had a deal with 945 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,000 Revlon and they were too sexy. And she, you know, to keep all 946 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,320 of her commercial brand deals. They felt that it was just too 947 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,800 sexy. But I just remember poring over 948 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,640 these pictures, thinking, oh, if Ellen can take my picture one 949 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,240 day, I would have made it like, because, you know, they were 950 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,640 just the most stunning pictures of Claudia. 951 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,920 And so when Playboy came around, I was like, if we can get Ellen, 952 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,000 please, can we get Ellen? And she did it. 953 00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:26,640 I was so happy. And do you have loads of 954 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,400 pictures of you up at home? Oh no, Not one. 955 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,160 Stop it. Not one, no. 956 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,040 I have one photo in my living room of Raquel Welch by Terry 957 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,520 O'Neill on the cross. That's that's the only picture. 958 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,720 No, I don't have any pictures of myself. 959 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,120 I can think of nothing worse. Oh my God. 960 00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:47,200 I. Do have the magazines and 961 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,280 everything, but they're all in a storage unit down in Kent near 962 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:55,320 where my mum lives, locked away. Maybe I'll look at them one day. 963 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,520 No, once it's done, it's done. It's like gone. 964 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,360 That's. Fantastically refreshing. 965 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,960 Would you say you had a worst fashion moment? 966 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,840 Oh, I've had. Several, I think probably 967 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,800 several red carpet moments. Which one sort of really sticks 968 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,000 in your memory? Gosh God, there's one at the 969 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,720 Evening Standard Awards. I've wore this beautiful, like 970 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,520 this beautiful dress and the wind blue and showed my knickers 971 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,040 and they were just the worst knickers. 972 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,520 And I thought, oh God, I'll never make that mistake again. 973 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,560 So sometimes it's not always what you wear. 974 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,840 It's what happens on the red carpet. 975 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,880 It's what you've got to worry about. 976 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,040 If you've 444 or flash something you shouldn't, that happens. 977 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,120 Oh my goodness. Let's talk about sustainable 978 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,160 fashion. Yeah. 979 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,880 What's your approach to it? I mean, I'm all for it. 980 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,320 I mean, I, you know, I unfortunately with what I do, 981 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,080 you know, there's this kind of expectation of always having to 982 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,520 wear a different thing every day. 983 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,320 But I've really found that, you know, at Loose Women and ITV, 984 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,000 you know, we really try and resource a lot of the fashion 985 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,440 and what we wear and they really encourage you. 986 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,160 We actually have days where you have to wear something you've 987 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,720 worn before. So they really encourage it. 988 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:05,360 So I'm, you know, we're all working together to try and 989 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,200 encourage that more and, and make it the norm to be seen in 990 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,640 the same dress more than once. Because, you know, in our 991 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,400 industry, it's not really what you used to do. 992 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,160 You'd always have a different outfit on every day. 993 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,480 But that's why I love the radio, because isn't the focus isn't 994 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,400 necessarily so much on what you're wearing every day. 995 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,760 So we can repurpose things a bit more. 996 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,160 But yeah, I'm more for it. I mean, you know, I take stuff 997 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:30,080 to charity or give things away to friends and family and I 998 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,560 don't buy that much really. I really do. 999 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,240 Not as much as I used. To do you get bombarded. 1000 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,720 I don't want it. I don't, I don't ask for 1001 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:39,800 freebies. I really don't want it unless 1002 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,720 there's boots on a shoe that I like and I know I'm going to 1003 00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:45,000 wear, I'll take. But I, I don't give PRS my home 1004 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,240 address. I get furious when I get sent 1005 00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:49,320 things. I know that's so bizarre, but I 1006 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,520 just don't. I get so overwhelmed being sent 1007 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,160 gifts and that expectation that you've got to post or tag or I 1008 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,880 just don't. I'd rather just not have it and 1009 00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,080 I just don't want it in my house. 1010 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,040 I just like what I like and I don't buy them a lot and I don't 1011 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,800 want to be gifted a lot. No, that's fantastically 1012 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,680 refreshing to hear. It really is. 1013 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,640 Yeah, I see influences and they just, I just looks like their 1014 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,840 house is just full of clothes and oh God, I. 1015 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,640 Think no, I think I. Could bear it. 1016 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,800 So overwhelming and and then it loses its authenticity and, and 1017 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,480 all the rest of it. Yeah, yeah. 1018 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,920 So in terms of charity shops, where do you do you have a 1019 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,760 specific one that you love to give to? 1020 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,120 Yes, there's one in Bells Eyes Park that that we give to a lot. 1021 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,120 Was actually there two weeks ago. 1022 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,440 It's the Marie Curie Foundation just on the corner. 1023 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,840 They're great in there and they know me there because there's 1024 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,760 been a few times where things have gone in the bag that 1025 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,440 shouldn't have gone in the bag and I've had to go and buy it 1026 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,920 back. Do you remember that? 1027 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,000 It's like the worst thing. You're like, oh, that, that 1028 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,560 leather jacket should not have gone in and we have to like. 1029 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,840 Panic. Go down and be like, oh, can we 1030 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,520 just give a little donation to get it back? 1031 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,880 Where Amanda Holden's grandmother had taken a whole 1032 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,520 rail of clothes in to the charity shop. 1033 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:13,000 No, she'd had sort of out ready to, you know, to work with, to 1034 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,560 style to all the rest of it. And they all got sent down to 1035 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:16,520 the charity. You should have. 1036 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,120 To go and get it. All I think so it. 1037 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,280 Happens, yeah. Let's spin on to some quick fire 1038 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,040 questions, fashion advice you'd give your 20 year old self. 1039 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,720 I would say go with your own instincts and and, you know, 1040 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,880 don't be told what to wear always, you know, kind of go 1041 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,560 with what you know, because I definitely been coerced into 1042 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,040 wearing things that I probably shouldn't have done or, or not 1043 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,960 had the confidence to kind of follow my own path. 1044 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,040 And yeah, just that influence really around you. 1045 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,640 Fashion trend that you'd most like to see make a comeback. 1046 00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:53,720 I mean, I do love a juicy tracksuit, but I think they have 1047 00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:56,560 made a comeback. I think the 90s has definitely 1048 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,080 made a huge comeback. Fashion or beauty trend that you 1049 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,760 would consign to Room 101. The mullet, I think it's more of 1050 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,040 a haircut. You. 1051 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,120 Know just coming back from Australia on the Gold Coast, 1052 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,160 Beautiful men. They all had mullet. 1053 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,080 I just don't. They're all in their 20s, like 1054 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,840 one of our drivers, gorgeous, gorgeous young man. 1055 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,640 And I was like, what is it with the hair? 1056 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,520 He said. This is the thing here, everyone 1057 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,440 has mullets there. I'm just dreading it coming back 1058 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,280 to London. Your last impulse buy? 1059 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,160 It was Chanel. It was. 1060 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,400 But it was, it was an investment piece. 1061 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,120 It was a new wallet. I have it somewhere. 1062 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:39,280 It was a new wallet. She justifies it, yeah. 1063 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,480 And it's not on show, it's hidden away. 1064 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,480 It's in my handbag, but it's a really nice wallet from Chanel. 1065 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,880 Views on tattoos. Oh, not for me, not for me. 1066 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,560 Beauty treatment you couldn't give up. 1067 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,520 And lovely. Like face massage. 1068 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,000 Like facials and face massage? High end or High Street? 1069 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,480 I think high end quality over quantity. 1070 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,640 Bling or bear? I do like a bit of a bling. 1071 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,680 Summer or winter? Summer Minimalism or maximalism 1072 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,360 I. Think maximalism. 1073 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,200 I think you can tell about this pattern on my dress. 1074 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,560 Couture or charity shop? I want to say charity shop. 1075 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,320 I think I'm going to say couture. 1076 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,840 Have you ever had anything made for you at a couture house? 1077 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:31,560 No, no Crocs, cute or puke. Thank you, I love a croc. 1078 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,440 Sneakers I. Will you live in an apartment if 1079 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,800 you lived? It's on the ground floor. 1080 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,400 It's like kind of take your bins out style, isn't it? 1081 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,360 I'll give you that. Sneakers or stilettos? 1082 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,640 Sneakers. Boyfriends or wide legs? 1083 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,480 I'm kind of going for the wide leg only at work because all the 1084 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,240 kids at work say that I have. If I have skinny jeans, they're 1085 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:56,240 just not going to talk to me. They have to be wide legs. 1086 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,800 Bodycon or boho? Fo ho. 1087 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,480 Beanie or baseball cap? Beanie. 1088 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,480 Sports Lux or Rock chick? OH. 1089 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:11,120 I love this sports lux Cavalli. Red carpet or relax? 1090 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,040 Relax. Trend or style? 1091 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,160 Style. Experimental or uniform? 1092 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,320 I kind of like a uniform. I haven't got to think about it 1093 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,920 then. Cashmere or cotton Cashmere, 1094 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,880 Hoarder or editor? Editor, shapewear or sexy 1095 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,840 lingerie? Sexy lingerie. 1096 00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:35,760 Tights, stockings or hold eggs. Tights. 1097 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,800 Bikini or one piece? I like the One Piece at the 1098 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,200 minute. Finally, traditional last 1099 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,080 question. At the end of the day, what do 1100 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,080 you or don't you wear in bed? I don't wear anything. 1101 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:55,720 That doesn't surprise me. Kelly, thank you so much for 1102 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,480 coming on a style journey with me today. 1103 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,320 So fun, I've loved it. I've learned so much about 1104 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,840 myself doing that I never they're questions I never asked 1105 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,800 myself or think about. Thank. 1106 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,440 You little style therapy. Yeah, absolutely.