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Today I'm going on a style 
journey with the English TV and 

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radio presenter, the eternally 
joyful Gabby Roslyn. 

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Hello and welcome Gabby very 
much God, lovely to have you 

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here. 
You've been such a busy girl. 

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It's morning live on BBC 
Television, right? 

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Shop smart. 
Save money on Channel 5. 

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That's it. 
Magic Radio on Saturday mornings

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and BBC Radio on Sundays. 
Bloody hell. 

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And the podcast. 
And the book. 

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Do you get a day off? 
Did you know everybody always 

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asked that? 
And yes, I do, but not really. 

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But I love working. 
That's all I've ever wanted to 

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do. 
Yeah. 

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So to be doing what you've 
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three, it's fine. 
I I'm so happy. 

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It's clear it comes through. 
You are totally joyful. 

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Any plans to write another book 
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No, that's, it's funny, a lot of
people have asked me that. 

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It comes out in paperback in a 
few months, which is very 

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exciting, brilliant. 
And I and with a bit of a cover 

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change. 
And I didn't really, I didn't 

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realize that after you'd done a 
hardback that you had to then go

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out there and talk about the 
paper. 

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I thought, oh, it's there. 
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But it's it's really exciting to
be talking about it again. 

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So you have to go on a whole new
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Yeah, fantastic. 
Yeah, but it's I do. 

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I the thing about that book is, 
although somebody asked me last 

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week, did I write it or was it 
AI? 

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And I said no, I did. 
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Do you know what a girlfriend of
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earlier actually said to me when
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deal. 
I'm so excited. 

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So that's fantastic. 
Get IAI to. 

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Write no, no, no, don't. 
No, no, that's. 

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What's your book about? 
What's your book about? 

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Style DNA. 
Fabulous, fabulous, fabulous. 

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But So what inspired Spread the 
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It came really, really does come
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three years old, I was a 
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teenager. 
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that because I don't think it's 
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But I knew that television 
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So when I was 3, my dad worked 
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work with him couple of times a 
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And I remember walking in to 
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hand. 
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And I used to, yeah, it was. 
And they say, oh, hello, Clive. 

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And I'd imagine they were saying
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number 28 down the corridor. 
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work with him, it was because I 
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I used to sit next to the 
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of the presenters. 
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hello with them and I then went 
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saw that there were cameras 
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that watching it. 
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couple box on his head so he was
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auto cue because that's all I 
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presenter because it brought me 
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And that's the same as the book.
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and I've always wanted to see 
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But talk to me for one second 
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cripplingly shy and yet you want
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because television brought made 
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up comedian, but I wanted to go 
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That was my big thing. 
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can make somebody smile, then 
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And I still totally believe in 
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person, obviously, if more watch
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they do, that's very nice. 
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show or listening to the radio 
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or reading the book, if they 
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they've taken they've got some 
take home, then that's that's a 

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a gift for me and a gift for 
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Yeah, double whammy. 
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effect and I love that and it's 
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about that just by smiling at 
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day, it's a ripple, totally. 
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Or smiling at the guy taking the
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whatever. 
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I, I always, I always ask 
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with. 
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longer has a roof over their 
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homelessly and they, you talk to
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always try and chat to them. 
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they said if you could ask their
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So I always do now because 
nobody, you know, they feel 

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invisible, but it's the same as 
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I'd be sitting on the, in fact, 
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I was sitting on the train and I
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me. 
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talking to her. 
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a man who was looking a bit 
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I said, can I show you around? 
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wanted to help. 
He said, Oh no, I think I'll 

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just use my phone, but thank you
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And then I just say hello to 
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Yeah, it, I mean, see when you 
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the joy that that brings, it 
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It really does. 
Fantastic. 

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Any other projects boiling up 
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Do you know, I hate it when I 
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yes and I can't talk about it, 
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And until I've signed on the 
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I can't talk about it. 
But it's very exciting. 

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And you're really excited about 
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Oh, fingers crossed. 
I can't wait to hear about that.

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Thank you. 
Now today we're going on a style

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journey together. 
Tell me about what you're 

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wearing. 
Well, I, I had to go totally 

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bright because I love bright 
colors and, and you and I have 

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known it for a long time And I, 
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spread joy. 
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in my book as well. 
But I've always, but I think 

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because I started out in 
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I started out in kids 
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So you wore bright colors. 
I then did Saturday morning 

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television. 
You wore bright colors and then 

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did a show called The Big 
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So it's always been about bright
colors lift somebody's mood, and

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they do. 
If you see a bright color, your 

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mood is automatically lifted. 
If you see constantly Gray and 

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black, doesn't mean I don't wear
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But if you only see that, 
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the news is so frightening and 
so dark, and today it's a bit 

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Gray outside as well, just 
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And the amount of people who 
very sadly say to me, and it's 

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women who say, oh, I wish I 
could wear a bright colour. 

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Oh, I wish I could wear neon. 
Oh, I wish I could do that. 

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But I'm just too embarrassed. 
I should I just wear my, my Navy

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and my black because that's what
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And I always say you can. 
Yeah, you absolutely can. 

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There's no rules. 
That's a nice thing these days. 

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There are no rules. 
I'm allergic to rules in 

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fashion. 
Yes, absolutely allergic. 

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So tell me you've got this. 
Gorgeous. 

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It's a bright pink. 
I've I went and looked at this 

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and it's my daughter's. 
So this is my younger daughter's

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sweatshirt that she wears for 
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So I said I'm going to wear this
because I also was going to wear

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a neon orange jumper, which has 
got a pink star and a neon 

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yellow star on the arm that I've
just had. 

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But I'm about to wear it on the 
TV show and I thought, knowing 

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me, I'll get it dirty and I 
haven't got time to get it 

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cleaned by tomorrow. 
So that's why I didn't wear it, 

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but I have all of my clothes, 
the bright, bright, bright. 

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And then the. 
I've got pant, so these are 

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trousers and they also got the 
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these are the trousers that more
people stop me about and and a 

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pair of wide leg jeans that I 
got from next that I get stopped

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in the street about more than 
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I mean, now, honestly, it's the 
it's really weird and I love 

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jeans and I've got too many 
pairs of jeans and I've I have 

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spent a lot of money on on some 
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wears Popeye and all of that. 
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And I do shopping in your 
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So I'm a great believer in that.
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got from next last year, total 
strangers come up and say, 

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excuse me, can I ask you where 
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And then I say next they go, no 
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Yes, I did. 
Good, good. 

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And sneakers. 
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No. 
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So I walk about 10 miles a day. 
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Yeah. 
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the train a stop early? 
No, I walk. 

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I usually walk everywhere. 
So I walk to town, I walk to 

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each meeting. 
I walk if it's very early, if 

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I'm doing a breakfast, then I at
Magic, I've been doing breakfast

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recently and I don't go in at 
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but I will walk. 
So it's, yeah, between 7 and 10 

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miles a day. 
Amazing. 

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I love it. 
Steps is that. 20,000 yeah, But 

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I it's good for my head, it's 
good for my heart, it's good for

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the environment. 
Yeah, good stuff. 

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Good stuff, but I wear heels. 
I love heels. 

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And how much are you wearing 
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Not as much, although we have 
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Saturday night and everyone's 
have you suddenly grown and I 

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put on my ridiculous stacked 
heels. 

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I mean, we've all got them from 
years ago and they are shopping 

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in your wardrobe, but the the 
platform, the platform is about.

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You love a good platform. 3 
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about 6 and I'm 5 foot 9 and so 
I was over 6 foot, which alarms 

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some people, but I love the 
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Fun. 
Fun. 

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Now you grew up in London, yeah?
Were you very aware of your 

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parents style? 
Yes, they my we didn't have much

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money. 
My mom used to buy from Marks 

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and Spencer's and she used to 
get stuff from her mother, hand 

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me down stuff but she didn't. 
My mother always believed that 

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she wants that it was not right 
for her to spend money on 

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clothes when she could be 
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How lovely. 
And your father? 

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Oh, he's a mess. 
My dad was always a mess. 

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He used to spill everything down
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He was one of those people. 
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memory of clothes making an 
impact on you? 

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I loved, loved, loved fashion 
from Tiny and I loved makeup. 

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But weirdly, when we were 
younger, you couldn't say you 

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loved clothes and makeup because
you were then called the bimbo. 

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Do you remember that it was a? 
Well, if you're blonde too. 

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You want I wasn't this is this 
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I was a redhead. 
I used to draw outfits. 

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I used to design outfits when I 
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colours and everything and I 
always, they were all very, very

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similar. 
But I loved it. 

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And I would look at fashion 
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didn't buy them, but I'd go into
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at them. 
And then I used to love the VNA,

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always go to the VNA. 
Any opportunity to look at the 

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fashion through the years? 
Did you sew? 

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Yes, I did craft at school and 
the first thing I made was a 

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nightshirt, a blue and white 
nightshirt, stripy nightshirt 

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with a dog collar. 
I made that. 

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Then I made some trousers which 
were checked. 

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Oh my goodness, I've just 
remembered they were large 

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checks in bright a bright greeny
colour. 

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So that must have been 70s. 
No, because I'm only 33. 

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Of course. 
Yeah, it was last week. 

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It was last week. 
Did you wear a school uniform? 

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No, I went to school where there
was no school uniform. 

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And so did you feel the pressure
to dress up or? 

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No, we, I used to go to a market
and buy the copies of the 

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clothes because I didn't we 
didn't have the money. 

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And so I used to wear I the 
everyone was obsessed with 

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Levi's five O 1's and I couldn't
afford them. 

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So I worked at weekends. 
I worked in a shop from the age 

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of 15, Saturdays and Sundays. 
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the market and get the copy. 
Were you selling clothes in the 

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shop? 
No, I I worked in a paper and 

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record shop from the age of 15 
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because being insanely shy, it 
was a fantastic way to chat 

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because everyone used to chat to
me. 

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It's very strange. 
Even when I was sort of 10/11/12

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on the bus going to school, I'd 
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and telling me their life. 
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think, oh, and I'd come home and
I'd say mum, this woman was 

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telling me that she's going to 
get a divorce and that her dog 

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has just died. 
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single day. 
Everybody has always talked to 

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me about everything. 
Why do you think that is? 

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I don't know. 
I, I, it's because I'm I'd like 

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talking to people, but I could 
talk to total strangers. 

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But but make me go to a party 
and I'd get an upset stomach. 

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But working in a shop was the 
most fantastic way talk to 

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everybody and anybody. 
I have this theory that every 

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teenager should work either in 
retail or hospitality. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
For a short time, yeah. 

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So that you learn how to 
interact with strangers. 

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Absolutely, I totally agree. 
And how to sell yourself 

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actually to you know, you've 
when you go for an interview, 

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you're selling yourself. 
Couldn't agree more. 

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And also when I was working in a
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television show. 
Yeah, in my head. 

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Oh, how lovely. 
So I would go on a Saturday 

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morning, I'd get into work. 
I did Saturday all day and 

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Sunday mornings. 
And so I'm doing the same now. 

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I work at weekends. 
I've never not worked at 

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weekends and and I'd chat and 
I'd then I'd walk, I'd walk home

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after that and I'd have my pay 
And I think, wow, I learned this

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about this person and this 
person and this person and I met

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some incredible people. 
Absolutely incredible. 

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But you were you almost being 
your alter ego. 

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No, because I oh, I hate it when
people say what you see is what 

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you get. 
But it is so. 

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But it stopped my shyness 
because. 

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I can't be shy, really. 
My point about the shyness, you 

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know, do you did you almost need
to be a Gabby too? 

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No it. 
Was. 

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To overcome your shyness. 
It was me not not Shy Gabby. 

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So it was the the me that wanted
to be ATV presenter. 

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It was me that could talk to 
anybody, but it was when I go to

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parties, I just be so painfully 
shy. 

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I remember at school teachers, 
they knew that I wanted to be 

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ATV presenter and they knew I 
wanted to go to to drama college

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and that was always what I 
wanted to do after my A levels. 

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But but there were a few 
teachers say, goodness me, 

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you're very shy, but that's 
great and you want to be ATV 

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presenter. 
So they were very open and nice 

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about it. 
But there would be people who 

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say you're so shy you want to be
ATV presenter, but you're so shy

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you can sing, you're a singer, 
you're so shy. 

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And then I'd say, yeah. 
So it sort of builds it more 

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into you. 
Yeah, do you? 

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Did you ever use clothes to 
overcome your shyness? 

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No, I want, I wore like I wore 
the same as everybody else. 

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I drew stuff that I wanted to 
wear, but I'd wear actually 

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jeans. 
I've still got jeans. 

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From bit of a uniform. 
Yeah, yeah, lived in jeans and 

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my girls live in jeans now and I
live in jeans, so I've always 

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lived in jeans. 
But I've always loved bright 

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colored tops. 
So I've got tops from when I did

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Motormouth, which was the 
Saturday morning kids show. 

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I've still got some some of the 
neon tops I wore there. 

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When would you say you 
discovered your personal style 

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DNA? 
Probably. 

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Probably it was always there, 
but I couldn't afford it and I 

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didn't have the courage to do 
it. 

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So I always knew what I felt 
comfortable in and I was one of 

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those people. 
This is really weird to to admit

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to you because you're you're 
real at that. 

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But but I used to dress people. 
So when I started out in telly, 

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other presenters used to say, 
Oh, I like so and so and I like 

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so and so and I just say, but 
you should wear blah, blah, 

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blah. 
So I used to meet them in 

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Topshop in Oxford Circus and I'd
dress them. 

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Oh, I love that. 
And I'd make them put things on 

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that they were scared to put on.
And then I started doing it in 

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later years. 
I did it for quite a few 

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charities. 
So I'd, I'd somebody would, 

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they'd auction me off at 
charities and I'd do let's go 

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shopping and, and I'd take total
strangers out and I'd say give 

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me a couple of hours in a 
shopping centre and I'll have 

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you dressed in things you never 
wore before. 

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So I've done that quite, I've 
done it for years now and. 

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How did you go about so you? 
I just take things off the 

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rails. 
I say that, that, that and that 

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and they say I would never. 
I said do it just. 

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And you wouldn't talk about 
their lifestyle or what they 

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love and what. 
They do, it's just about them as

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people. 
Fantastic, fantastic. 

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I still get people asking me and
I, I did it for somebody couple 

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of months ago and I used to also
when I started shopping in your 

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wardrobe, a lot of people asked 
me to go and do their wardrobe. 

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So I started doing that as well.
I've done that a lot it. 

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Sounds like a great sideline. 
Yeah, I love doing it. 

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I love going through people's 
wardrobes. 

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I'm. 
Very nosy now you've got 2 

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teenage daughters. 
No, they're 18 and 23. 

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OK, so one teenager. 
Do they have strong opinions on 

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what you wear? 
Yeah, I really trust what they 

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have to say. 
So they know they don't do they 

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don't do the bright colors. 
If you open my wardrobe, it 

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would be very different to 
yours. 

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If you open my wardrobe and I 
looked weirdly this morning. 

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I looked because I was talking 
to my younger daughter about 

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this. 
If you open my wardrobe, it's 

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bright, bright, bright, bright, 
bright, bright, bright, mix, 

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mix, mix, bright, bright. 
And then jeans, jeans, bright 

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trousers, bright, bright 
trousers. 

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In my younger daughter's 
bedroom, she's got a, a wardrobe

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that's mine, that's all my 
stuff. 

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And it's all my trousers. 
And they are every color you can

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imagine, neon wire, all sorts. 
And then my white trouser suits,

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which we can talk about in a 
minute because somebody sitting 

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very close to me started off my 
obsession with white trouser 

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suits and that. 
And then if you look at my 

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daughter's, it's. 
The baggiest jeans and short 

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little crop tops and things and 
that's what she lives in. 

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And my other daughter, because 
she works, she's got, she's got 

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much more muted wardrobe. 
But did they ever say to you Mum

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no? 
Yes, but they no, but they'll 

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laugh sometimes in a nice way. 
They'll say, why are you wearing

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orange, pink, blue-green or the,
I feel like it. 

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OK, that's our mom. 
But they never don't know. 

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I will ask their advice on 
something. 

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I'll say, do you think these 
shoes are these shoes? 

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And they'll say, oh, no, those 
ones don't work. 

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And I'll listen. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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That's great. 
But they have very much both 

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have their own style. 
But if you're are you ever 

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unsure of what you're putting 
on? 

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Sometimes I'm not sure what I 
should wear as opposed to 

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unsure, and that's only come in 
the last 1020 years I suppose. 

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But what do you mean by? 
Well, for no, before I would 

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dress if if it was a black tie 
event. 

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I do you. 
Do you remember when it was a 

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black tie event and nobody would
wear trousers or, you know, 

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everyone would wear the long 
dress or the long skirt or 

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whatever. 
And I have yours in my top and I

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love them so much. 
But but now I will dress up 

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something that I never thought I
would have years ago. 

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So I'll wear, I might wear smart
jeans to something with a really

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nice top or I'll change up the 
jewelry or something where we 

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never did that years ago. 
That wasn't a dumb thing. 

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Years. 
Ago because the dress code was 

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far more. 
Prescriptive. 

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Yes, it was. 
Yeah. 

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And I like that. 
It's not now. 

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Yes, I totally agree. 
Can be themselves. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
What'd you go to if you're 

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unsure of the dress code? 
Smart trousers and a bright top 

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and jackets. 
I've got a lot of jackets. 

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I don't wear jackets as much as 
I used to. 

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I I wear a lot of trouser suits 
and you're to blame. 

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Can can you just talk to me for 
a second about the white 

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trousers? 
Yes, so using well I've got a 

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lot of I you very kindly used to
lend me stuff for events. 

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So I've got some long skirts of 
yours which I love and I bring 

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out and I wear on holiday now 
with white T-shirts and flip 

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flops. 
Just buy us skirts. 

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Yeah, Oh, fabulous. 
They're just still great, 

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aren't? 
They oh, they're wonderful. 

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But you you had so I always when
I was younger, I used to draw. 

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I mean, I do have a lot of 
trouser suits and I'm talking 

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Zara to to high end and to me 
and MI love me and M trousers. 

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But years ago there was a 
trouser suit that I fell in love

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with of yours. 
It's white with black and it is 

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the most beautiful trouser suit.
It's my, it's my precious, it's 

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my precious trouser suit. 
I'll pay you later. 

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No, this is. 
Completely and utterly true. 

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My children know it's my 
precious trouser suit. 

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Now white trouser suits are 
gorgeous, I love them, but they 

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are a nightmare in terms of in 
and out of the dry cleaners. 

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No, I, I, I'm aware of that now 
and I embrace it. 

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So I have my precious trouser 
suit, which is honestly what it 

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is called in the wardrobe. 
I have my me and EM white 

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trouser suit which is a three 
piece because yours was a is a 

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jacket and trousers. 
Oh, those trousers are so 

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beautiful as well. 
And the cursor trousers. 

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It they're slight, they're 
flared, and I wear really silly,

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silly, silly high heels with 
them. 

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Oh God, they're gorgeous. 
Those those pants were really, 

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really good. 
Oh amazing. 

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Talk about leg lengthening leg. 
Lengthening and the jacket, the 

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way it's cart. 
Oh just fabulous. 

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So my precious white trouser 
suit, then I've got my me and M3

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piece trouser suit and then I've
got a Zara white trouser suit, 

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which is the fling on and I can 
put in the wash. 

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But that's but my precious one 
comes out early at precious. 

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Oh, I love that. 
It's so funny saying that to 

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your face, but that's what we 
call it. 

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And my kids know that's my you 
know, they'll that and they do 

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borrow my stuff. 
I love that they do. 

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00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,080
There's they can't borrow so. 
What do you wear under said 

446
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,000
precious trouser suit? 
I wear a. 

447
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,960
Little tiny little black vest. 
Gorgeous. 

448
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,040
That's it, Gorgeous. 
I've worn them separately though

449
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080
as well. 
So I've worn the jacket with 

450
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,960
jeans, and I've worn the 
trousers with exactly the same 

451
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,360
white top with white shirt. 
Because white isn't just white. 

452
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,840
Yeah, everyone thinks I'm crazy 
when I say that, but it's not 

453
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,720
just white. 
But it's very uplifting, isn't 

454
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,920
it, I? 
Love wearing white. 

455
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,880
I've got a white evening dress. 
I've got a white I've I wear. 

456
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,400
I do love wearing white. 
And do you wear ivories too? 

457
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,800
Sort of Pearl white. 
Yes, similar to the colour 

458
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,040
you're wearing now. 
But I I love a crisp white 

459
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,320
white. 
I do wear it a lot and people 

460
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,720
always say oh why are you 
wearing white it? 

461
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,320
Really does throw light onto 
your face. 

462
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:37,280
Love wearing white? 
Do. 

463
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:44,040
You wear black at all? 
Not often, not close to my face,

464
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,800
I have done. 
And any Darks Navy's charcoals? 

465
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:55,640
I love I My darkest that I wear 
all the time would be khaki. 

466
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,560
I think of khaki as a dark I. 
Love a khaki. 

467
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,160
Yeah. 
I mean, to me, that's my 

468
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:04,440
favorite dark neutral. 
The the sort of freckly redhead 

469
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,080
blonde that I am, I'm I'm. 
Amazed that you're a redhead. 

470
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,280
Well, I was, and then it got 
darker and dark. 

471
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,840
Yeah. 
Well, most I've only. 

472
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,720
I've been blonde since I was 
forever 19. 

473
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,440
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

474
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,760
So I was, I was born blonde. 
Went red and then it got Auburn 

475
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,520
and then darker and darker. 
So I started then lightening it 

476
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,720
and then it got lighter and 
lighter. 

477
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,320
Do you have a style icon? 
Jennifer Aniston at some stage, 

478
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:35,640
or Cate Blanchett, but actually 
or or Diane Keaton. 

479
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,160
I loved Diane. 
I mean, I still do. 

480
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,160
I love the way she dresses. 
And I interviewed her and she 

481
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,240
blew my mind that I couldn't 
believe I was just interviewing 

482
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,800
her. 
But I think I take it from a lot

483
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,720
of people. 
I don't just think I don't I I 

484
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,600
love looking up the way people 
put things together and the way 

485
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,760
people dress. 
Talking, interviewing. 

486
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:02,520
Do you ever find yourself 
matching your guests look 

487
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,280
subconsciously in a way of 
connecting with them, sort of 

488
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,760
dressing for your guest? 
No, no. 

489
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,560
Although this morning I did have
a different outfit on and 

490
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,960
because I wanted to, I thought I
should be today. 

491
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,040
But I thought no, just sling on 
because I've got to, I've got to

492
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,760
walk and I've got to do 2 two 
different things after this. 

493
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,880
And I thought no. 
And I did have on a more muted 

494
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,080
outfit and I thought, no, I'm 
going to go in bright colours. 

495
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,960
And your nails match your 
sweatshirt. 

496
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,200
That is, that's accidental 
because I had something like 

497
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,720
that. 
Yeah. 

498
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,840
Well, I like bright nails. 
Yeah. 

499
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,080
Yeah. 
Gorgeous. 

500
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,880
If I asked you to describe your 
style DNA in three words, what 

501
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:56,880
free would they be? 
Neon, bright, happy. 

502
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,120
Yeah. 
I didn't think about it. 

503
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,080
They were the first. 3 words 
that came out. 

504
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,720
Would you say that your styles 
changed through the decades? 

505
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,840
I I know you're only 33 so. 
Yes, over the. 

506
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,960
Past three decades? 
Yes, Over the past. 3 decades. 

507
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,520
I think I've become more 
confident in dressing like me as

508
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,680
opposed to dressing like I'm 
supposed to dress. 

509
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,600
Has that been quite freeing? 
Oh, yes. 

510
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,440
And also, as I'm so pleased you 
said earlier, anybody saying 

511
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,200
that you can't do that or you 
can't do this because of your 

512
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,360
age, shut up. 
Oh, wear what do you want? 

513
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,520
Somebody the other day spoke to 
me about somebody that is in the

514
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,880
public eye who was photographed 
wearing a very short skirt. 

515
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,760
And they said, oh, do you think 
that she'd learn? 

516
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,320
And I said, learn what? 
And they got such a shock that 

517
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,520
my and they said, well, come on,
she's in those that age. 

518
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,680
What? 
Come on. 

519
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,400
I said I think she looks 
absolutely wonderful and I 

520
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,120
applaud her for wearing what she
wants. 

521
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,360
And actually this happened years
ago. 

522
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,320
So when I first met my husband, 
we've been together 20 years and

523
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,200
we were on holiday in Italy and 
there was a woman walking 

524
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:21,200
through the street who had on a 
bra top and a sort of Saronghy 

525
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,200
skirt, but it had Belle, you 
know, when you the, the bell 

526
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,240
belts. 
Do you know what I mean? 

527
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,880
They were sort of jingling and 
she had flip flops on that were 

528
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,280
jingling. 
And I was looking at her. 

529
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,320
My husband said, why are you 
staring? 

530
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,080
And I said, she looks fantastic.
And then I heard my say myself 

531
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,680
say, isn't it great that she 
dresses like that for her age at

532
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,720
her age? 
And then I stopped myself and I 

533
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,080
said, I'm never saying that 
again. 

534
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,360
And she was, she was probably, I
would say she was probably in 

535
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,680
her late 70s, eighties. 
Oh, wow. 

536
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,920
No, she was amazing. 
Yeah. 

537
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,800
And she looked incredible. 
Yeah. 

538
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,360
So that was there. 
I stopped. 

539
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,120
I I actually meant it as a 
compliment. 

540
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,520
I didn't mean it in a cruel way.
And. 

541
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,040
And he said, what? 
Why? 

542
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,120
Why you? 
What's the matter? 

543
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,840
I said. 
I must never say that again. 

544
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,600
Yeah. 
'Cause she just looked great. 

545
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,320
She looked fabulous. 
Yeah, she looked fabulous. 

546
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,320
She was wearing this bikini top 
and it had little bells and the 

547
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,680
skirt. 
It was a sort of gypsy skirt 

548
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,280
that she'd tied around her and 
bells. 

549
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,840
And it was, she was, and she 
just looked wonderful. 

550
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,560
She had a basket over her 
shoulder. 

551
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,000
She was slightly stooped. 
She had shoulder length. 

552
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,840
I can picture her now. 
I can always. 

553
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,600
I have a really weird thing. 
I can picture everybody's face, 

554
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,320
Photographic memory of faces, no
names. 

555
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,120
Can't remember, but she looked 
wonderful. 

556
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:42,040
But so, on that note, is there 
anything that you wear less of 

557
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,320
now? 
Yes, short, short. 

558
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,560
Skirts. 
Yeah. 

559
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,560
I used to wear them every 
morning on the Big Breakfast and

560
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,800
I don't now. 
And it's, it's not because I 

561
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,640
don't want to. 
I would probably wear them with 

562
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,840
opaque tights again, but I just 
haven't recently. 

563
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,680
I'm not because I'm worried 
about what somebody would say 

564
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,440
really, I just haven't. 
So that's something I I don't 

565
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,520
wear anymore. 
Because I wear. 

566
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,720
Skinny jeans and everyone goes 
oh we sure only wear baggy 

567
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,720
jeans. 
I wear my baggy jeans my skinny 

568
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,960
jeans, my. 
Because I actually feel that the

569
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:23,520
Gabby I know now is proper 
sports lux, joyful colours, you 

570
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:30,440
know, bright clashing colours 
and, you know, lovely track 

571
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,680
pants, you know, all of that 
sort of vibe and it's easy and 

572
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,000
relaxed. 
And yeah, and there's sporty. 

573
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,200
Yeah, yes, I suppose that has 
changed since walking 

574
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,120
everywhere, because I think, I 
really do think that walking has

575
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,960
changed my life very 
dramatically. 

576
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,760
I stopped drinking because I 
walk so and that was because I 

577
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,440
and I never drunk a lot. 
I used to have a couple of 

578
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,880
glasses on a Friday and a couple
on a Saturday and that would be 

579
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,000
it. 
And I just didn't want to 

580
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,040
hangover because walking is so 
released so much. 

581
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,480
I love it that I thought I don't
want to not walk so I'm never 

582
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,960
going to drink again. 
It is the best thing, isn't it? 

583
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,440
A. 
Walk. 

584
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,880
Yeah, it really is. 
You know I. 

585
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,000
I love the fact I've got to get 
that little creature out every 

586
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,240
morning, even if it's growing. 
How well behaved? 

587
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,480
Yes, until she isn't. 
Until a little head pokes up 

588
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,600
over the sofa. 
Fundamentally, who do you think 

589
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,240
you dress for? 
Spreading joy. 

590
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,840
I love that, I love that. 
But you obviously spread joy to 

591
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,880
yourself. 
Yes, because if you, you can't 

592
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,960
in, in my book, I talk about you
have to feel the joy yourself 

593
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,000
and it doesn't mean faking it or
it's just little moments of joy.

594
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,960
You don't have to be joyful all 
the time, but little moments of 

595
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,120
joy. 
If once you feel that and then 

596
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,760
you can spread the joy, then 
that's a double whammy and you 

597
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,240
can feel good for making 
somebody else feel good. 

598
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,040
Absolutely, and interesting. 
I would love to know when you've

599
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,360
had more difficult moments. 
In your life. 

600
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,600
Did you find yourself reaching 
for a particular color? 

601
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,320
Well, I had both. 
The worst time, which I talked 

602
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,760
about very openly, was I have 
both parents with different 

603
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,360
cancers and different hospitals.
Mom was dying. 

604
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,840
We didn't know if dad was going 
to survive. 

605
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:30,520
And I remember when I, I sort 
of, I, and I now tell people I 

606
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,040
was very young, Mom died very 
young. 

607
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,000
And I now tell people, you must 
look after yourself because I 

608
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,800
didn't, I didn't get to the gym.
I didn't do, I didn't eat at 

609
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,560
normal times. 
I didn't look after myself well 

610
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,880
enough. 
And I, I now tell everybody, 

611
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,080
you've got to look after 
yourself. 

612
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:52,680
But also, I forgot about 
looking. 

613
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,960
I it was just getting on with 
it. 

614
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,920
I had to get on with it. 
And then mom died and dad had a 

615
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,320
stroke. 
And then I started after that 

616
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,040
reclaiming all of that again. 
Now, my mom had loved shoes. 

617
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,360
She was a bigger shoe size than 
I was, and she had shoes in her 

618
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,400
wardrobe from the 1950s, some 
proper stilettos. 

619
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,040
I was so annoyed I couldn't, 
couldn't keep them, couldn't 

620
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,400
wear them. 
I remember giving them to 

621
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,520
charity shops. 
But I remember going to buy a 

622
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,480
pair of shoes after mum died 
because I thought I love shoes, 

623
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,280
Mum loved shoes. 
That's what I'm going to do. 

624
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:34,239
And I bought some pale blue, 
very high sandals. 

625
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,560
They were designer sandals and 
they were from Gucci. 

626
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:42,199
I'd never bought anything like 
that in my life, but I thought, 

627
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,239
I'm going to buy a pair of shoes
that will last forever. 

628
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,400
If I ever have children. 
They'll also have. 

629
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,120
They now have smaller feet and 
bigger feet than me, so they're 

630
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,800
just going to have to put them 
on a something. 

631
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,800
And I still have those to this 
day. 

632
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,640
And those are the shoes I bought
to celebrate shoes because my 

633
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,680
mom loved shoes. 
So that was that, you know? 

634
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,640
So I I Yeah, I am. 
Color can help through all of 

635
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,040
those things. 
Yeah, no, but I went there. 

636
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,240
It was an awful time, but I'm I 
talk about it very openly. 

637
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,880
Yeah, I know. 
I I, I know you do. 

638
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,640
And I just sort of wondered 
whether you used clothes in any 

639
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,680
way to cocoon you or? 
I just got on with it and the 

640
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,240
But the press had a field day 
because they didn't know what 

641
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:25,840
was happening. 
So they had a field day. 

642
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,680
Oh, yeah. 
We were seen in the street 

643
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,120
looking very down. 
Yeah, yeah. 

644
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,400
My dad's just had bowel cancer 
and a stroke, and then he had 

645
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,560
another stroke. 
My mom died. 

646
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,920
So, you know, there was a lot 
going on. 

647
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,440
Mum had lung cancer. 
Brutal. 

648
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,520
Yeah, brutal. 
God. 

649
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,680
But life is about we. 
We're never going to get this 

650
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,440
moment again. 
And that's another reason for us

651
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,360
to spread the joy is that you 
and I are never going to get 

652
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,360
that moment ever again. 
So make the most of every 

653
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,320
moment. 
Proper carpe diem, isn't it? 

654
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,160
Oh my gosh. 
It really is. 

655
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,960
Yeah. 
God, if only we'd known that. 

656
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,000
I know. 
When we were 32. 

657
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:08,160
Yes, a year ago. 
Now you Co host shop smart save 

658
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,240
money. 
Are you very conscious of the 

659
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,320
price of the clothes that you 
are wearing? 

660
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,680
Absolutely. 
So most of the time I I shop in 

661
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,280
my wardrobe, it's something I 
feel very strongly about. 

662
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,720
I do worry about the amount of 
waste, the amount what we're 

663
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,560
doing to our environment, the 
quick, the fast fashion. 

664
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:36,040
I worry about the people who are
made to make the fast fashion. 

665
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,160
And I worry more about is just 
being slung. 

666
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,960
I mean, the pictures of people 
going skiing and leaving their 

667
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,720
ski outfits on the slopes and 
people going to on summer 

668
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,520
holidays and leaving their 
bikinis on the beach. 

669
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,240
I, I don't understand it. 
So I do a lot of that. 

670
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:57,000
And like I said, I never bought,
I design a pair of shoes. 

671
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,840
I, most of my stuff I'm High 
Street, but I've always been 

672
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,800
High Street. 
I've always been very loud and 

673
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,840
proud of that. 
Apart from my special trouser 

674
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,400
suit and your Gucci shoes, my 
Gucci shoes, they're my one pair

675
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,920
of designer shoes. 
And I just, I, yeah, I, I don't 

676
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,800
like, I don't like big displays 
of, I don't like it when people 

677
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,760
put on an outfit and it's just 
about, oh, look how much money 

678
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,520
I've got. 
Look how I don't, I don't like 

679
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,560
that. 
I've never liked that. 

680
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,440
I've, that's not, that's not me.
But if somebody wants to do it, 

681
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,600
they can do it. 
It's just something I don't 

682
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,000
particularly. 
I mean as a well known face with

683
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:43,080
a big social media following, 
you must get stuff sent to you. 

684
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,520
I don't, I say say no. 
Do you? 

685
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,080
But and I never just arrives. 
No, because I say no thank you 

686
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,880
very much and they understand. 
I get really, really lovely 

687
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:56,760
people asking me. 
I won't take any food or 

688
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,600
anything. 
There aren't enough people with 

689
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,160
food banks and I work with 
Multibank, Gordon Brown's 

690
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,240
charity. 
I'm an ambassador for that. 

691
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,960
The idea of me, that's horrid. 
I don't like it. 

692
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:09,680
I think it's wrong. 
I will help friends. 

693
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,360
So if friends got a new 
business, I will talk about that

694
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,480
and I will say it's my friend 
has designed this or something. 

695
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,000
But I don't keep them. 
I don't, I don't like that. 

696
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,240
I don't, it's wrong. 
I'm in a very lucky position 

697
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,960
that I can go into Zara and buy 
something new. 

698
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,040
I'm I'm not going to take 
something. 

699
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,440
I don't, I don't. 
It's just me. 

700
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,840
I don't like it. 
Yeah, what do you do with your 

701
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,040
clothes when you've had enough 
of them? 

702
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,320
Give them to charity shops or 
give them to friends. 

703
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,560
Is there a particular charity 
shop usually? 

704
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,200
Any cancer charities because 
it's affected me so much? 

705
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,800
Yeah, it will be cancer charity 
shops and Oxfam. 

706
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,560
And do you buy vintage at all? 
My daughters do. 

707
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,120
They both do. 
They go to charity shops and 

708
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,680
they go on vintage do. 
They sell any of yours on 

709
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,800
vintage? 
No, they wear. 

710
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,880
Luckily they wear it. 
My younger daughter, she wears 

711
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,520
quite a lot of of my things, 
None of the bright stuff apart 

712
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,400
from this, which she's worn for 
a couple of auditions, but but 

713
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,160
they my jeans. 
Suddenly my jeans are 

714
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,200
disappearing. 
And also I've got some which we 

715
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,760
all wore in the early noughties,
the Maharishi's I. 

716
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,160
Love my Maharishi. 
Thank you. 

717
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,400
I love mine. 
Yeah, and my younger daughter 

718
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,440
wants them. 
She's never going. 

719
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,160
I won't let her 'cause that's 
slightly falling apart. 

720
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,320
I found a pair of mine the other
day that hadn't I thought I'd 

721
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,040
lost. 
With the embroidery down the 

722
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,520
side. 
Embroidery and beating this got 

723
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,800
like ohh cock on the back of the
they are do you. 

724
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,400
Wear them still. 
Absolutely I need to replace the

725
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,840
elastic in them. 
Yes, 'cause I've had them. 20 

726
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:59,240
something years, yeah, but God, 
I found, I was so happy when I 

727
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:02,320
found because they're khaki too.
Yes, mine are khaki gorgeous. 

728
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,960
I've got a beige pair and a 
khaki pair and I wear them just 

729
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,000
with a plain white T-shirt. 
Yeah, love. 

730
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,320
Them. 
Oh great, Let's talk about body 

731
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,520
image. 
Are you very conscious of how 

732
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,080
you feel about your body? 
Does it affect your choice of 

733
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,520
clothes? 
I never wear anything skin 

734
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,840
tight. 
I'm I'm not that person. 

735
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,760
I never have done. 
I never will. 

736
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,800
So no, I think I was more that 
was I was more self-conscious 

737
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,920
growing up. 
I have a a scar on my upper arm 

738
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,800
which was a BCG injection that 
they were. 

739
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,840
Beasts. 
Weren't they? 

740
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,520
Well, yeah, But mine opened eye 
grew. 

741
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,200
It was a lump of tuberculosis 
that grew in my arm. 

742
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,400
And then it had to be cut out. 
And you can see the dent there. 

743
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,240
I'm. 
I'm very open about my scar now.

744
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,280
And then the scar opened, so 
then they had to try and stitch 

745
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,920
that up and that opened again. 
So I had this big weeping hole 

746
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,960
for about a year and I used to 
hide it all the time. 

747
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,360
I'm so self-conscious. 
But no, you don't. 

748
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,440
No, because years and years and 
years and years ago I was on a 

749
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,640
red carpet and I wore a 
sleeveless top and Amanda 

750
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,320
Redmond came up to me and she 
touched my scar because she's 

751
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,480
got burnt all down one arm when 
she was a child. 

752
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,800
And she's always been very loud 
and proud about her scar. 

753
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,600
And she touched it and like, 
wonderful scar. 

754
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,560
And I just thought, yes. 
And then Katie Price as well. 

755
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,800
I saw Katie and I love Katie and
she said good for you and I said

756
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,440
I was so self-conscious about my
scar. 

757
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,520
Oh don't be. 
I love scars. 

758
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,160
I was 12, completely unique. 
But when I was, when you're 12, 

759
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,080
it's quite a thing to cope with.
Yeah, but and that made me very 

760
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,760
self-conscious in my arms. 
And then I just, I think I was 

761
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,960
about, well, it would be 3 years
ago. 

762
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,000
So I was about 30 when I decided
to say OK, I don't care. 

763
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:55,000
Yeah. 
What did you wear to get 

764
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,560
married? 
So I wore which time, the first 

765
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,720
time or the second time? 
I wasn't even going to say. 

766
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:05,960
No, I've been married twice. 
It's no secret and I will wait 

767
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,880
for both of them. 
I wore for my second marriage. 

768
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:16,880
We got married on a farm on in a
field and I wore a long Lacy 

769
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,440
dress, scoop neck and it was 
lovely. 

770
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,400
It was really, really simple. 
It was lovely, yeah. 

771
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Gorgeous in a field? 
So in a field, what was on your 

772
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:33,480
feet? 
Very, very, very high wedges 

773
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,880
because you couldn't see my 
feet. 

774
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,560
I just, I wanted heels. 
I love the heel. 

775
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,680
What would you say has been the 
most important event other than 

776
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,160
your wedding, your second 
wedding that you have had to 

777
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,360
dress for? 
Probably when I did the 28 1/2 

778
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,480
hours straight through 
Millennium broadcast for the 

779
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,000
BBC, so I was the only one that 
was staying on for 28 1/2 hours.

780
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,680
And I had a number of changes. 
And I wore an Amanda Wakeley 

781
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,760
skirt for part of it, a long 
skirt. 

782
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,000
It was a golden. 
It was my golden. 

783
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,160
I've still got it in the 
cupboard. 

784
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,360
It's similar to the color you're
wearing now, but it's slightly 

785
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,720
more golden color. 
That was one of them. 

786
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,680
But also I knew that we were 
going to be watched from around 

787
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,320
the world. 
And there's 28 1/2 hours and I 

788
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,080
had, I think I changed about 
four times also to keep me 

789
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,040
going. 
It was sort of. 

790
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,200
Quite I was going to say, how 
the hell did you but the. 

791
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Weirdest thing that I wore was 
when I So this is a strange 

792
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,960
story, but when I was younger 
and I was watching Blue Peter, 

793
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,080
which I watched religiously, 
they said design an outfit that 

794
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,400
you'll that you think people 
will wear in the next in the 

795
00:43:52,400 --> 00:44:00,560
next century. 
And so I designed a silver biker

796
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,360
jacket leather jacket that I 
then took into school and I 

797
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,400
wanted to make it and they said 
well, we can't. 

798
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,200
But we I made a miniature one. 
But I made it, I colored it in 

799
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,480
with silver because I love 
anything sparkly and shiny. 

800
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,800
I love sparkle. 
I love it and I'm like a magpie.

801
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,400
But I made it at school just a 
little 1 and it was a silver 

802
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,040
jacket. 
I was obsessed with one day 

803
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,760
having a silver jacket. 
Now forget I've told you that 

804
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,200
story. 
Then on Millennium Night, one of

805
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,920
the things I wore was a silver 
leather jacket. 

806
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,760
And I was doing the the link. 
And I suddenly remembered that 

807
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,200
in the year, whatever it was 
that I thought in the year 2000,

808
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,120
everyone would be wearing 
silver. 

809
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,760
And I was doing it. 
And I had that. 

810
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,120
Oh, my word. 
Yeah. 

811
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,760
There we go. 
That's true. 

812
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,960
Gorgeous, how many silver 
jackets are now in your 

813
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:01,320
wardrobe? 
That one's there. 

814
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,480
I've got a silver long coat, 
trench coat. 

815
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,920
I've got lots of sequins, but I 
reuse sequins. 

816
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,480
So I know sequins aren't good 
for the environment, but I do. 

817
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,080
I've got a lot of sequins. 
I love sequins. 

818
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,640
But you're not throwing them. 
All no, no, no, no, no. 

819
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,440
So we'll forgive you for that 
one. 

820
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,520
Let's talk about beauty. 
What is important to you in 

821
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,920
terms of beauty? 
It's a funny one. 

822
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,400
I I think we've got to be really
careful because there's so much 

823
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,760
about anti aging and non aging 
and I. 

824
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,680
Just hate that term. 
I really. 

825
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:48,120
Do and also I love makeup, so 
cleansing is important obviously

826
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,560
because I love wearing makeup 
and I won't have anybody tell 

827
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,600
me, oh, you've got to an age 
where you can't. 

828
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,080
I love it. 
I love doing my makeup. 

829
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,760
You and I share a wonderful 
makeup artist called Colette who

830
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,000
is fantastic. 
Wish you were here today, 

831
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,360
Colette. 
Oh, she's fantastic. 

832
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,320
And Gabby doesn't need it, but. 
No, but we really do need you, 

833
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,760
Colette. 
We really do need you. 

834
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,080
So she does all my fashion 
shoots, she does all my TV 

835
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,320
shows. 
I love Colette, but I so for me 

836
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,040
beauty, I think it's the word 
that slightly puts me off 

837
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,680
because then it's saying, oh, 
it's looking, you're looking 

838
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,000
beautiful. 
It's looking after yourself. 

839
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,480
It's the same as your gut health
because I take SIM proof every 

840
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,200
morning. 
This isn't an advert, but I 

841
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,360
swear by it. 
So I have that first thing in 

842
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,560
the morning before I have my 
I've now, you know, everyone now

843
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,640
knows I'm working with Lizzie, 
so I have my granola, but I, you

844
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,480
know, I'm really careful about 
what I put in my body, but I'm 

845
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,160
also careful what I put in my 
face and I check everything. 

846
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,920
I've got an app that I check 
what's going on, but I I also 

847
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,280
have, I think you have one the 
the Lima laser you have. 

848
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,080
No, I don't. 
It's amazing. 

849
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,680
But I've got the infrared. 
Oh no, the Lima laser Mars. 

850
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,000
I sit there watching my 
EastEnders 'cause you know, I'm,

851
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,760
I've never missed an episode and
I never ever in 40 years. 

852
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,120
So I started at -7 and I use my 
Lima laser every single. 

853
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,880
It's fantastic. 
And you never use an infrared. 

854
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,080
It's to say it's this, it's 
amazing, doesn't do the same 

855
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,920
thing. 
They're not sponsoring me. 

856
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,160
This is nothing. 
I love it. 

857
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,640
'Cause they're expensive, those.
Yes, but it's the most 

858
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,360
incredible investment I've ever,
ever. 

859
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,680
It's fantastic. 
I just got the little one. 

860
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,920
I love it. 
Interesting, interesting and 

861
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,960
then tweakments. 
No, I don't. 

862
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,200
I use the Lemur laser. 
So that's your. 

863
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,280
I use that and I ritual, I go to
have another. 

864
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,880
I have my neck. 
I have this heat treatment laser

865
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,920
thing on my neck 'cause it my 
neck is a bit scraggy, but 

866
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,240
that's OK. 
So not no, but I don't I don't 

867
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,080
don't really mind, but the lemur
honest. 

868
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,520
I felt like I'm an advert. 
Would you use the lemur on your 

869
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,240
neck? 
Yes, I do it on my neck and on 

870
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:01,000
my chest, and I do it on my arms
here. 

871
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,240
But I also use, I do so skin 
care. 

872
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:04,560
I've always loved skin care, 
Yeah. 

873
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,400
And I have a mixture of our 
mutual friend Trini, which I use

874
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,080
her elevator on my neck, yeah, 
which is great, and her eye 

875
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,200
stuff. 
And then I use Beauty Pie. 

876
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,080
I use Beauty Pie cleanser. 
There's serums. 

877
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:21,160
I use medicate, I use one of 
theirs. 

878
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,400
And then I make up. 
I have a whole variety of stuff.

879
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,200
Just a wonderful collection. 
I love it. 

880
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,760
I love. 
I've always loved makeup. 

881
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:36,280
And what about hair? 
Hair I have my colourist comes 

882
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,200
to the house and I cut my own 
hair. 

883
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,720
You cut your own hair. 
Well, I used to have the most 

884
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:45,040
wonderful hairdresser who we 
both know, lovely Charles 

885
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,480
Worthington, but he doesn't do 
it anymore and he was the last 

886
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,640
hairdresser I really, really, 
really trusted. 

887
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,680
And and he will not even give 
you a little no could. 

888
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,320
I wouldn't ask. 
He's that. 

889
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,960
I know, I know. 
But I so I have the make up girl

890
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,880
at Morning Live, Carly. 
She cuts the back for me and 

891
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,880
then I cut the sides and she's 
going to actually fully enough 

892
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,760
next week when I do Morning 
Live, she's going to do the 

893
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,840
whole thing because I just need 
to. 

894
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,920
Because actually having a good 
old. 

895
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,320
Snippet. 
I just need a little. 

896
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,960
I need yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But I need. 

897
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,520
I just need to. 
Having a little. 

898
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,880
TriMet of the dry bits and 
manicures. 

899
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,920
Do my own watching EastEnders. 
Love it, love it. 

900
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,200
Can we just, I mean, talk about 
ageism for a second. 

901
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,320
Is there a much in television 
well? 

902
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,040
Do you know what's interesting 
is that I'm very lucky. 

903
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:43,240
I've been working since I was -5
so I've been working for 38 

904
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:47,640
years in television and radio. 
I'm very lucky that I've carried

905
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,480
on working. 
And there are a number of people

906
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:55,080
that say to me, aren't you lucky
at your age to still be working?

907
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:02,200
And yes, I am lucky, but I wish 
they wouldn't say at your age, I

908
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,560
love what I do. 
It's very funny. 

909
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:11,320
In lockdown, I had that light 
bulb moment where for all my 

910
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,000
life people have said you, oh, 
you're obsessed with your job. 

911
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,200
You're addicted to your job. 
And so I used to parrot it and 

912
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,440
say I'm addicted to my, oh, I'm 
obsessed with my job. 

913
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,960
And I realized in lockdown it 
wasn't at all. 

914
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,440
But I love my job and I'm not 
ashamed to say it. 

915
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,040
Yeah. 
Do you see a time never in the 

916
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,800
future? 
Never stopping. 

917
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,000
Yeah, I've always said I want to
work until I'm 99 and I want to 

918
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,360
die after doing live television.
So I'll do the live show and 

919
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,000
then I'll come off and I'll just
go to sleep. 

920
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,280
Fantastic. 
Love it. 

921
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,080
Let's talk about your wardrobe 
for a second. 

922
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,000
Is it super organized? 
I know where everything is, 

923
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,000
Yeah. 
I'm not one of these people that

924
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,680
has all the colours in one thing
and then they're. 

925
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,120
Oh, no, no. 
Are you a mood dresser? 

926
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,720
Or are you like our mutual 
friend Joe Elvin, a planner? 

927
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,320
No, I don't know. 
None of that. 

928
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,960
No, she has a week on a week. 
I mean how she does it I do not 

929
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,000
know. 
No, I like, I like. 

930
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,520
I'm just I'm actually opening my
wardrobe in my mind now. 

931
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:19,040
So my main wardrobe, on the top 
I've got shirts and jumpers 

932
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,520
hanging, some jumpers. 
Then I've got all my trousers, 

933
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,800
my jeans and I've got skirts. 
And then I've got some jumpers 

934
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,240
piled up. 
And then I've got some more 

935
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:29,560
jumpers and sweatshirts in 
another bit here. 

936
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,880
And then the other side, I've 
got my T-shirts and my 

937
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,760
sweatshirts and and then I've 
got a lot of shoes. 

938
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,600
Now you must get your photograph
taken quite a lot. 

939
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:47,480
Are you very conscious of 
controlling that your image for 

940
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,600
those images? 
I will. 

941
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,040
I oh, I don't know. 
That's so funny. 

942
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,320
My agent and I will always look 
at them afterwards and Colette, 

943
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,560
I I trust if Colette, the makeup
girl that we're talking about, 

944
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,480
if Colette is there, totally 
trust, you know, she'll say 

945
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,000
yeah, no, I like that. 
Oh, no, you know what? 

946
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,800
You should try bit of this. 
So yeah, but but no, because 

947
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,800
this I'm on live television, I 
can't control any of that. 

948
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,800
And are you happy to be taken 
out of your comfort zone fashion

949
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,760
wise? 
Oh yeah, yeah, I know. 

950
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,480
Absolutely. 
But I will still won't wear. 

951
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,920
Everyone knows that there's a 
lovely, lovely stylist called 

952
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:26,200
Rachel Franconi who who styles 
me and she did the latest advert

953
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,720
for Magic the glow time wear. 
I'm wearing this long pink coat 

954
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:31,840
and your bright. 
Pink hyper colour. 

955
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:32,920
Yeah, really. 
Lots. 

956
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,520
And the neon shirt underneath 
and and she, I just love it. 

957
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,480
She turns up with stuff and I 
go, oh, I would never have put 

958
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,600
those together. 
Yes. 

959
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,840
So we go a bit crazy. 
Yeah. 

960
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,640
No, if I and she, but she knows 
I don't want scoop. 

961
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,400
I don't want boobs out. 
I'm not that. 

962
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,440
Yeah, no. 
Would you say you've had a worst

963
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,360
fashion moment? 
Oh, there's loads, loads. 

964
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,040
Anyone in particular that sort 
of springs to mind and you look 

965
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,680
at a? 
Picture and you look at some of 

966
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,000
the stuff I wore on Motormouth 
Saturday morning kids telly, my 

967
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,400
neon cycling shorts and 
Timberland boots, neon socks and

968
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,760
orange bum bag and an orange 
hoodie. 

969
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,680
They're pretty, but I I liked it
at the time. 

970
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,280
It was a rite of passage, I. 
Love it. 

971
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,800
Let's talk about travel. 
Are you very aware of your 

972
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:25,400
travel look? 
No, I don't even think I when I 

973
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,160
go on holiday, it's to switch 
off. 

974
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:37,520
But and I, I wear mainly flip 
flops, white T-shirts and take 

975
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,000
lots and I've got some very 
bright colored, we might be 

976
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,320
surprised linen trousers that I 
wear with flip flops and white 

977
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,440
T-shirt. 
I'm not, I'm not somebody 

978
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,040
dresses up. 
I don't do smart. 

979
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,160
I'm not that sort of person. 
And when I travel on an 

980
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,920
aeroplane, it will always just 
be a T-shirt, some wide leg 

981
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,080
trousers and A and a sweatshirt 
around my waist. 

982
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,680
And luggage of choice. 
Nothing smart. 

983
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,160
No, I've never none of that. 
And my handbags aren't either. 

984
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,360
No, I've never been that. 
Do you have a money No object 

985
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:17,680
brand? 
But no, no, I didn't think you 

986
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,600
would have. 
Actually, I don't even know. 

987
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,040
Why so I might my, Like I said, 
I've got one pair of designer 

988
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,360
shoes which I bought when Mom 
died. 

989
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,560
I've got my very kindly given to
me precious white trouser suit 

990
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,440
from you. 
But no. 

991
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:35,760
So I will buy things that I will
get lots of wear out of. 

992
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,800
So me and Em, I love their 
trousers and I, you know, when 

993
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,080
people say where do you get 
those trousers, I'll say me and 

994
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,680
em because I'm not going to wear
them again. 

995
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,480
I've got original me and Em 
before when she had her first 

996
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:52,320
shop and I bought some trousers 
there and I wear those all the 

997
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,000
time. 
Yeah. 

998
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,880
Guilty secret. 
The most expensive item you've 

999
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,560
ever bought? 
Really. 

1000
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,840
With Gucci. 
Yeah, my Gucci shoes where mom 

1001
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:02,200
died. 
Oh. 

1002
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:07,360
Love that. 
So your approach to sustainable 

1003
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,760
fashion is? 
Don't Chuck it away, either give

1004
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,520
it to a charity shop because 
then somebody else will get the 

1005
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:22,000
joy and or give it to a friend 
or put it in your wardrobe. 

1006
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,400
And if you, if there's that 
thing about if you take some 

1007
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,240
things out and just think, do 
you know what? 

1008
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:30,040
I'm never going to wear that 
again. 

1009
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,080
And I've done it recently and I 
made the girls do it as well, 

1010
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:38,120
because we're going to take a 
big haul off to the Cancer 

1011
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,480
Research and, and I just said, 
come on, we're going to do this.

1012
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,680
And there were some things and I
remember saying to my younger 

1013
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,880
daughter, Oh, please, I love 
that cardigan, this little crop 

1014
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,560
cardigan. 
It's like a mini cricket 

1015
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,760
cardigan. 
Sure. 

1016
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,720
I am never going to wear that 
again. 

1017
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:56,360
I said, Are you sure? 
She went, I am sure. 

1018
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,280
And then my elder daughter, 
there were a couple of shirts 

1019
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,480
and I said that's really nice. 
I'm never going to wear that. 

1020
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,200
Great. 
So we went through all that and 

1021
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,360
then I put loads of things out 
there. 

1022
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,920
But I did go back to the pile 
and realized that there was a 

1023
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,440
pink pair of trousers that I'd 
wear again. 

1024
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,480
I wore them for that one night. 
I thought no, and I put them 

1025
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,320
back. 
So they're going. 

1026
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,360
We literally have. 
I've made the whole family do 

1027
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,360
it. 
It's so cathartic, isn't it? 

1028
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,760
It really is. 
What would you say is the oldest

1029
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:32,360
piece in your wardrobe? 
I have a shirt, an evening shirt

1030
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,920
that I've never worn. 
That was my late mother's that 

1031
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:43,120
she wore in the 1960s. 
But she did. 

1032
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,720
Like I said, they didn't have 
any money my parents and she had

1033
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,280
a shirt that had been her 
mother's. 

1034
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,480
That's stunning. 
It's beautiful. 

1035
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,360
It's very it's very, very old 
fashioned, but I love it and 

1036
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,640
I've never worn it. 
Why? 

1037
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,800
Because it's sort of was it's 
weird. 

1038
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,640
It was it's there. 
It's sort of my my top of my 

1039
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,680
mum's. 
It's black, but she it's got 

1040
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,960
sheer sleeves and they're 
beautiful wide sleeves and tight

1041
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,680
at the wrist. 
And then it's got a little 

1042
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,800
collar and she added some. 
She got some off cuts of 

1043
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,560
material and she hand sewed 
this. 

1044
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:26,800
It's like a silver slightly, 
slightly shiny because she 

1045
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,280
didn't like shiny things like me
material. 

1046
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,560
That's I can't, you'll know 
better than I will. 

1047
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,920
Sort of like it's quilted, 
slightly quilted that she put 

1048
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,400
over the neck and she put on the
wrists. 

1049
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,560
So it looks like she's got it 
looks slightly like it's 

1050
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:47,360
jewellery and it's lovely. 
And then it's a, a, a cotton 

1051
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,160
top, so you that's not see 
through, but the sleeves are 

1052
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,440
sheer and it's beautiful. 
So that's the oldest thing in my

1053
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,960
wardrobe. 
Do you remember her in it? 

1054
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,040
Yes, yes. 
And I just loved it. 

1055
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,880
I we didn't have the same taste 
at all. 

1056
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,920
And her clothes went to charity 
shop, which she would have liked

1057
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,600
very much would have liked, but 
that I kept. 

1058
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,960
So that's. 
The girls wanted to wear it. 

1059
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,240
Oh they could with pleasure. 
I don't think they would. 

1060
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,200
It's terribly old fashioned it 
looks like. 

1061
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,040
Weirdly I wondered about giving 
it to the V and A or somewhere. 

1062
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,360
It might be a nice thing. 
It's just it's so dated it looks

1063
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,160
like a a museum piece. 
Oh how lovely, lovely. 

1064
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,520
Let's spin on some quick fires 
fashion advice you'd give your 

1065
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,800
20 year old self. 
Stop being self-conscious. 

1066
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,760
Which fashion trend or era would
you most like to see make a 

1067
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,840
comeback? 
They all have. 

1068
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,760
They all have all the ones that 
I like. 

1069
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,640
Yep. 
The Fascies 90s, yeah. 

1070
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,240
Fashion or beauty trend you 
would consign to room 101. 

1071
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:56,760
Oh, I know leather. 
Clever look, pull on leggings. 

1072
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,520
Just if somebody wants to wear 
them, they're really welcome to.

1073
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,400
I choose not to. 
Your last impulse by. 

1074
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,960
The jumper I told you about, the
orange jumper with a pink star 

1075
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,440
on the front and a neon yellow 
star on the arm. 

1076
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:16,400
Bews on tattoos. 
It's up to the individual. 

1077
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,360
Beauty treatment you couldn't 
give up. 

1078
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,200
There's too many cleansing 
carefully my Lima thing. 

1079
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,560
And if you ever tell me I'm not 
allowed to wear mascara, I I 

1080
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,160
had. 
I wore mascara when I gave birth

1081
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,440
both times. 
That's bad. 

1082
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,040
High end or High Street? 
High Street. 

1083
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,480
Bling or bare bling, summer or 
winter? 

1084
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,240
Summer, summer, Summer, Summer, 
summer. 

1085
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,840
Minimalism or maximalism? 
Both. 

1086
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,160
Couture or charity shop? 
Charity shop. 

1087
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:53,200
Crocs, cute or puke sneakers or 
stilettos. 

1088
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,640
Both please Can I have one on 
each foot? 

1089
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,120
You can do whatever. 
You want strange way to walk 

1090
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,440
around London? 
Boyfriends or wide legs? 

1091
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,440
Both. 
I have both and I wear both. 

1092
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,920
Bodycon or boho? 
Boho. 

1093
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,440
Beanie or baseball cap? 
Baseball cap? 

1094
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,440
Sports Lux or Rock chick? 
Oh, definitely both. 

1095
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,640
Red carpet or relax? 
Relax on the red carpet. 

1096
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,840
Oh. 
I like that trendor style. 

1097
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,840
Style. 
Colour or monochrome? 

1098
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,960
And white. 
Experimental or uniform? 

1099
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,400
Oh, experimental. 
Cashmere or cotton? 

1100
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,040
Both because they're natural 
fibers. 

1101
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,480
Hoarder or editor? 
I edit my hoards. 

1102
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:46,480
Shapewear or sexy lingerie? 
Oh, I I've got shape wear and 

1103
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,680
I'm not sexy lingerie. 
If you saw my bra now you would 

1104
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,440
laugh. 
I'm wearing a sports bra because

1105
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:53,600
I walk everywhere. 
There we go. 

1106
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,200
Sports bar from M&S. 
Tights, stockings or holdups. 

1107
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,800
Oh, tights. 
Bikini or one piece? 

1108
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,680
One piece. 
And finally, a traditional last 

1109
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,400
question. 
At the end of the day, what do 

1110
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,400
you or don't you wear in bed? 
I wear a T-shirt and pants, old 

1111
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:15,320
T-shirt and pants and they get 
so covered in fake tan that by 

1112
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,880
the after a couple of days I 
have to change my T-shirt 

1113
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,320
because I love my fake tan. 
Actually, I wouldn't give up my 

1114
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,600
fake tan either. 
Or my lipstick. 

1115
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,360
Or my eyebrow pants. 
See, you can't make me give up 

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any of it. 
Can't make you give up a thing, 

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Gabby. 
What a lovely conversation, 

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thank you for coming. 
Thank you very much.