Today I'm going on a style journey with podcaster,
influencer and brand ambassador Sophie Habu.
Hello and welcome Sophie. Hello.
I'm so excited to be here. I'm delighted to have you here.
You're a super busy girl right now.
I mean, not one, but two podcasts.
One called Newlyweds. Yeah, with your husband, Jamie
Lange. Yes.
Double whammy. How's that?
How's that working with your husband?
It's got easier when it was nearly Weds, which is free
wedding. Nearly weds to newlyweds.
It was, I mean, really original. It was.
It was a struggle. Then with the lead up to the
wedding, I found with the stress of it and a sharing all of it
is, it feels like a breeze compared to that.
Now I really we've sort of got into the group of it.
But so what's the next chapter going to be gone?
Nearly weds to newlyweds. I don't know.
Nearly divorced. Hopefully not.
I don't know what you know. Hopefully may build a family and
all of those sorts of things like.
And have you decided what you'd call it with the one in the
oven? No.
What do you what do we think? Nearly nearly newly pregnant.
Blooming, Blooming. There you go.
Love it. Names.
Blooming words. Blooming words.
Amazing. I don't know.
I need to think about that one now.
You famously were on Maiden Chelsea.
Did you meet Jamie? I met Jamie on a maiden Chelsea.
Now he for many years was like, we mustn't say that.
You have to pretend that we knew each other before and I'm like,
OK, And then like, as time's gone on, I've just forgotten
that we he didn't want me to say that.
So we did meet on the show and we weren't actually that.
I don't think we were friends for about a year and then we
went on an away trip films in Croatia and South Africa and we
became really close over those periods of time and became
really good friends and then it slowly really good.
Friends. She says yes.
But how was the experience going from private individual to
basically living in front of the camera?
I was, I must have been 23 when I started and I think made in
Chelsea back in the day when it first started was it was a lot
bigger. It was kind of the only reality
show out or maybe the 1st and and they were really sort of
thrown into the limelight when I joined.
It was a bit of a slow burner in the sense that yes, you were.
Things were public, but I wasn't sort of walking down the street
and people like, Oh my God, it's Sophie Aveo.
I don't think anyone knew who I was.
So it was a real slow burner. I don't.
It definitely had its ups and its downs and I think it took
some time to navigate putting all of that out there.
Because that is young, you know, I often think about it with
people very much in the public eye.
When they're very young, whether they're in music or art or or
whatever, it's a lot to take on. Yeah, I think looking back on it
now and I mean I'm 29 now. Looking back on it, it was more
so the lifestyle. I think there was no structure
and obviously we're filming the show.
Your life's are really in the producers hands like they're
telling you where you're turning up, they're telling you you can
do this, you can go to this christening or this person's
wedding or you can't because you've you're contracted to
film. I think that took a while to get
used to. And then when you come out of
that, it's almost, that's where you sort of struggle a bit
because I was used to sort of being in this bubble and then
when I left the show, I was like, oh, well, what do I do
now? So that was sort of because all
my sort of 20s were doing the show, really.
And how did you swivel? I I think my first year coming
off the show, I was like, what do I do now?
I had a lot of free time. I was like, and also that the
adrenaline of having that drama every day and you're sort of
living in this world of it's exciting, but it's also quite
toxic it's. There's a lot of jeopardy, isn't
it, that? Totally.
And you're sort of bred to like, revel in the toxicity and the
cheating and the drama and the bitching and and then when it
goes and everything's peaceful, I was suddenly like, oh, I'm
quite bored. But actually it was sort of
learning to be OK with. It's not boredom, this is just
peacefulness and happiness like. Life.
Did you did you find yourself
consciously processing that? Yeah, I've.
I've. I felt uncomfortable.
I think I was a bit like what? I didn't know my place.
I didn't know where I was going to go.
I didn't know which route my career was going to go.
You know, suddenly you've in this industry kind of have to.
What I found like there's a lot of people doing the same thing
and it's hard to sort of know what you're going to do and
there's a lot of uncertainty. And what was your first sort of
move? What was the the first
opportunity that came up after maiden chances?
I guess sort of it was just sort of coasting and then we very off
the back of I mean Jamie's obviously been doing podcasts
for a long time. He did programs I don't know
like 10 years or something crazy.
And I think we we got engaged and then he very sporadically
was like, let's just do a podcast see how it is.
And I didn't think anything of it.
I also did not think anyone would listen to me.
I say all the wrong things. I get think my mouth muddled up
all the time. So I was like, this really isn't
going to be my thing And then it people somehow liked it And so
that's sort of where it's gone from there and it's been
something to do and it's we've had lots of fun with it and I
think that's kind of. It's got into the podcasting.
It's very infectious, I I have to say.
And then you've got your other podcast Wednesdays.
Yeah. And actually we did do that
before. That was quite a slow burn and
me and my friend have been doing that maybe since before lockdown
or mid lockdown, so 2020. And that's with my best friend.
And we, we honestly used to just come around to my house and we'd
have a bottle of wine and just gossip.
And Jamie would always be in the background and he was like, you
guys should really record this. And that's how that sort of
went. And that literally was the
inspiration, yeah. And it's just us gossiping.
And it's great. And I love it because I don't.
It feels like I'm just catching up with my best friend.
So what other exciting projects do you have up your sleeve?
So I've had a bit of fun this year with designing and like
creating collections with. I've done it with Coast and I
think there's about four collections out with them.
And then I've recently just done a collection with USA Pro, which
is a gym wear brand, and designed some sort of everyday
gym wear so you can wear it when you're not actually in the gym
and you're just walking around wherever you're walking around.
And how did you approach that? Did you approach it in the way
of What do I really want to wear?
Yeah I did sort of what I would wear and what I would like and
what would be comfy, but equally what's flattering for other
sizes. And obviously it's hard I don't
know you're probably you're definitely the expert in this
but it's hard designing things that I think would fit everybody
in like suit everybody and everyone would feel comfortable
in. But I sort of looked around and
spoke to my friends and we tested out a couple things and
I'm I'm happy with this. Then your brand ambassador for a
couple of other brands, and I know that you model those brands
too. How do you find that process?
Oh my gosh. I I honestly said to Jamie the
other day, I said I couldn't be a model.
I mean, I couldn't be a model either because I'm not one.
But I think that is such a hard gig.
It's a real skill, actually. It's.
Physically exposing, doing the gym work around, like the
tensing of my stomach and like trying to like you.
I think this is going to look nice And then they show it back
to me and I'm like no, no, no. How does it?
Filter. Not that you need that.
And it's like hard, I don't
know. But yeah, so that that was kind
of. And also you just see yourself
so differently, something the photographer would be like, I
love this. So yeah, I'm like, I really
don't want that photo to go anywhere.
But I guess that's just insecurities and things
everybody has it's. Completely natural, completely
natural. But today we're going on a style
journey to get that weight. So how did you decide what you
were going to wear here today? OK, disclaimer, I spoke to Will.
I'm very upset with my outfit. I was meant to be able to go
home and change before coming to Amanda 8 Lee's forecast, but I'm
in very comfy laid back clothes because I newlyweds ran over my
podcast and I didn't get a chance to go home.
I love it. I love.
It because I always think of you as slightly as sporty, sporty
like. Cozy.
That type of vibe. So I'm not.
Very glam. As in I really struggle with
things I don't feel comfortable in, so my trousers are always
quite baggy. I just wish I could wear my
mom's very glamorous. Huge fan of you.
She loves you. She's very excited and she, I
always look at God, I just wish, but I just feel very
uncomfortable and things that are really tight.
But do you think you your style evolved sort of almost away from
your mother's style to create your own space?
Is there any psychology in that? I think a lot of myself has come
from my mother in terms of tones.
She's always been, she's never sort of, you know, fashion.
It will be bright pink. So my mum is always like very
neutral, very cashmere, cozy, very, very chic, but like
understated. And I've never been big on
colours, so I don't know whether that's after her.
That's interesting. And were were you ever big on
colours even as a young girl? No pink or purple face.
No, I used to love. Everything I wanted to wear was
white. I love.
How super glamorous. I used to love wearing like
that. I was quite OCD as a child, so
I'm not sure whether that has something to do with.
It Were you very aware of your parents style growing up?
I was very aware of my mom, loved clothes and very was very
stylish. I remember weirdly though, my
mom used to live in flare jeans and I used to be really
embarrassed of her wearing flare jeans.
She swear them with like heeled Cowboys, which now I'm like she
actually looks so chic and cool, but I think she didn't dress how
the other mums dressed. So what era would what decade
would that so? I was born in 1994 and this is
when I was before I was 11 so. So late 90s, early.
Yes, and she was quite cool and like jeans and denim and she'd
wear like leather jacket and and all the other mums, sort of.
I don't want to say Pompey, but they didn't dress like she did.
And I actually was really embarrassed.
I used to be like, please stop looking so glamorous.
It's. Funny, isn't it?
That whole school gate trauma. Yes, but picking me up, I was
like, please just be wearing. I can't think what they were
wearing, but I'd be like, please don't be wearing fled.
And how interesting that you now look back on it and think she
was probably the chicest mum at the school gate.
I know. But she's forgiven you?
I. Hope.
But but what is your earliest sartorial memory?
The the memory that you have, the first time that you put
something on and it felt really good, or it felt really bad and
you knew you just didn't want to be in it.
Oh my goodness, that's a really interesting question.
OK, this is really strange, but I remember being the only person
who would wear ballet pumps and I think they must everyone else
more like clumpy trainers and all like comfy shoes.
And I had these like really sweet lab that they were from my
Bay at Old Town, I remember and they were quite Spanishy, maybe
European, and they were like ballet pubs and I was really
kind of embarrassed to wear them.
And also loafers. I used to wear loafers but I
loved them and I thought they looked really cool, but I was
almost embarrassed with in front of my friends.
At what sort of age are we talking?
Oh my God, I must have been 9. And these you'd bought in Spain
when you were there? Yes, because we used to spend
our summers in Spain. In My Bear and I, all of the
people who lived in the area, we were in work from Madrid and
they had this European style and they would wear like Ralph
Lauren and linen and they'd always have loafer leather
loafers. And they were just very
different to how my English friends dress.
And so I would go to Spain and I would start dressing how they
dressed. And then I would come back at
the end of summer and still be wearing it sort of September
time for the beginning first time of school.
And I'd always feel really embarrassed and I'd want to put
on like the the sketches that everyone in England.
And were you in a school uniform at the time?
Or yes, yes, but the shoes? Were you allowed to wear your
ballet pump? You were allowed.
And so I was wearing little leather ballet pumps.
And my mum, I remember in winter I'd wear brogues and ever.
No one else would, and I was sort of embarrassed.
But I also was like, I don't want to wear the clocks with the
Valkyrie strap, so I did wear them.
Was your interest in clothes more from your years in Spain,
or were you more influenced by living in London?
Would you say I? Think when I was younger, I
definitely preferred what the Spanish, that sort of clothing
to what my friends in all people in England would wear.
But then when I got to probably like 15, I definitely was very
like, oh, that's what everyone was in London.
And it was sort of about God that time.
It was like the fedora hats and the skinny jeans.
And I remember the skinny jeans were really in and the leather
sort of look jeans and I and the Giles and I was wearing all of
that. But so, no rebellious teens, No.
I didn't have any weird. My mum did keep a cap on it.
She my sister was more rebellious.
She sort of wanted to wear and no one thing we did do which was
awful we would have our hair up with one strand like this and I
remember my mum would be like oh can we just And I was so
obsessed with it being scraped back off my face and my like
please don't. And then also the plucking of
the eyebrows that was and the body con skirts they they were.
I look back in my night. And how short were the body Con
Short, short, short And how much make up?
Oh, the dream at me. And again, I remember my mom
would throw it away and I would scramble through the bin.
I just that's painful. Looking back and think, Looking
at the makeup and the concealer of my lips, it's awful.
But you rose to fame at 24, Yeah?
Do you feel like being in the spotlight at such a young age
affected your fashion choices? I think maybe I wore things that
I wouldn't have worn. I tried to be more fashiony
again with colour, like I'm not that I like style, but I don't
know. There's often things that are in
fashion that I don't like and they're just not for me.
And I think I've probably tried to wear those sort of things.
And looking back on it, I'm a bit like, Oh no, that didn't
look. Right.
Did the show have a stylist? Were you?
No. No.
No makeup artist. No style.
So you were fully self styled? Fully self styled.
But you were thinking I should try something.
I could think I might have wanted to look a bit Chelsea,
which sometimes wasn't me. Why?
Because you're more Notting Hill.
No, but I don't know. I think I probably wanted to
look like raw, like at times and it's just like not, you know, I
don't know and maybe I tried too hard the in the first year.
So what is RAW in your in your eyes?
OK. So I remember at the beginning
everyone was sort of, well, like I said, the sort of Giles and
the hats and the Stuart Wise and boots, like the Suede boots and
like. The over the knees.
Yes, and it just, it didn't look right on.
It wasn't even that I don't like it.
It's just that I went out of my way to get that to be like
because I thought this must be what Chelsea people were like.
This is what I should be wearing.
Fascinating. Are you very conscious of what
you wear when you're filming your podcasts?
No, I'm not, and I probably should be.
In a word, no. I definitely used to wet with us
as well. It's only top.
You can always see the top off and I started thinking, well,
it's kind of getting wasted. But with Wednesdays, I actually
we try and you know, think about, you know, I don't want to
turn up in my track suits every time.
And do you Are you conscious of having different looks for the
two different podcasts? I would like to we film on two
different days, so I try and change my outfits.
So. But.
So do you have a certain look for newlyweds and a certain look
for Wednesdays? Maybe Wednesdays.
I would definitely try and, you know, dress how I would dress to
go out for lunch with a friend, yeah.
Or have a. Glass of wine or three or three.
Do you actually drink while you're?
We did and we've stopped because we started filming at 10:00 AM
and we were like, I don't think this is a good idea anymore.
Wine at 10. AM on a Monday, it's probably Oh
yeah, oh. As you evolved your style, do
you think you were very aware of how what you chose would look
like on film or even on your grid, for example?
No, I don't think I've necessary.
I think going to sort of red carpets and things like that.
I definitely think, oh, would this look flattering?
I've learned like some things just are not flattering.
Any real fashion howlers? Oh yeah, I've definitely had
some, but I also just like just some.
I have a really low my chest is long and so I just anything sort
of boob tubby. It's showing too much from my
chest. I just don't.
It doesn't suit me. So those sorts of things.
Looking in a mirror, I don't see it as much as one of photos
taken. I'm always a big fan of If in
doubt, take a selfie in the mirror.
Really and. Then look at that picture
objectively. These are the.
Tips I need? Oh, you've you've got it so
sussed. As a newlywed, obviously you
have wedding choices. You had not one but three
wedding dresses. Can you tell me a little bit
about what drove those decisions?
So we obviously got married in London and I wanted we had a a
London wedding, the official wedding.
So that was that was town hall. Yes, Yep.
And that was to obviously, like, sign the papers.
And I I always knew my Spanish wedding.
I wanted it to be pretty traditional, but I didn't know
in what sense. But I knew that the London
wedding, I sort of wanted a bit to have a bit more fun.
I never wanted to wear a long dress for my London wedding.
And I don't know, I I just found that I can't remember.
Is it Vivienne Westwood? Yes, it's.
Vivienne Westwood, because I've seen pictures of it.
Her iconic dress. Well there's a story behind
that. There was none in my size.
I think I'm wearing a sample and it was a bit ripped like the the
straight, like the the sort of stitching was because it was
sample, there was none in my side.
But I tried it the sample on and they were trying to find me
another one that wasn't. So I ended up wearing that one
and then I couldn't get it off the zip Jarred.
So we actually I slept in it, which was boning.
I thought my ribs were going to collapse in the morning and at
11:00 AM, after trying for hours, my mum was going off now.
We just had to cut it. There's that fabulous picture of
you and Jamie coming out of down the steps and of the Chelsea
Register office and you're wearing sunglasses.
Yes, that was a very last minute decision.
Because. So they were my mum's
sunglasses. Oh, how lovely.
She put them on and I didn't have mine.
And Jamie put his on and, I don't know, there was a lot of
press outside. I think I just thought, I'm like
your mum, can I have your sunglasses?
Not even thinking what they look OK or anything.
And she just took them off and gave them to me and they.
Seem to look kind of good, but something old, something.
How lovely because they look so cool.
So those golden, you know, with your golden colors and those
golden glasses. Thank gosh.
Yeah, very good. They were sort of black or they
could have been. Very iconic paparazzi esque
shots. Did were you sort of did you
think about how your wedding was going to those wedding pictures
were going to look before that moment?
I wanted them to sort of be black and white and vintagey and
sort of like, I don't know, like a bit more fun than the
traditional. And we had Ben Wheeler, who's
amazing photographer, and he shot our friends the year before
and hers was sort of very ethereal and in a forest.
And I knew that he had done London City Weddings and he
could get that sort of, like, I don't know, vintagey look.
It just felt a sort of, I want to say urban glam.
It was a combination of real Chelsea registry office but
super glam and then the the timelessness of the black and
white I thought was. He was lovely, amazing and he I
think it's so just he was just great because we didn't know he
was there. That and you can really see that
in the pictures. It's just those lovely court
moments and I think that's a real skill and you're you guys
are just sort of wrapped up in this joyous moment.
So that's wedding dress number one.
That's wedding dress number one, then #2.
Then #2, so I trying to think how I did go and try on a few
wedding dresses. How was that process?
I found that really overwhelming because I liked them all.
And I, I, I mean a big Princess, you know, the corset with the
massive skirt I never thought would be my vibe.
And I was very close to getting. I can't remember who it was, but
terrible. Maybe it was Alexander McQueen.
Did you go to a a sort of bridal emporium that that sold all
different brands? The London Bridal shop or
whatever, and the Pernovius and all of.
The Oh, and did you Did your mother come too?
Mom came too. So did my sister.
So we were all there and it was really special and I loved it
and. Emotional.
Yeah, I definitely.
So I did cry with one other dress.
And then what happened was I thought I was going to get that
dress. I went again to try it on with
my friends and they loved it. And it was all this thing.
And we were like, we found the dress.
And then that evening my friend sent me a screenshot and she'd
seen three other people wearing it.
We were like, what do we do? Can't get married.
And that one and my friend who had had Ben Wheeler and got
married the year before had her dress made by Emma Beaumont,
who's a wedding dress designer. And she said, Emma's like, has
mentioned that you're getting married and you know, if you
want to chat to her, you can and Emma's places in Manchester.
And so just with the busyness of planning the wedding, it took a
long time for me to be able to gallop to Manchester.
And I was sort of holding all my bets on I'm just going to fall
in love for that and we're going to have this idea.
And she was so made me feel so safe because I knew that I
wanted I wanted lace, but not thin, sort of like a vintagey
creamier lace. And I wanted sleeves and I
wanted it to be fitted with sort of this tail, but I also wanted
it to be quite classic and like not too revealing.
And she just sort of was. I got it and I actually only
managed to go. So we fitted it once we pinned
me and then I only managed to see it one other time.
And then my second dress, which she made too, I didn't see until
the night I put it on. Oh my God.
Yeah. And did it fit you like a glove?
Yes, it clearly did. It did, but that was quite
risky. I don't know what happened to
me. I think what happened was I
rebelled as a bride because I was so overwhelmed.
I almost was like, Oh no, I don't don't wanna see anything.
So #3 dress you put on? Yeah, on the day of your
wedding. Yeah, and we were really up.
I I don't think we decided what we wanted to do until this, the
last fitting for the main dress. We she and again, Emma sort of
took it in her own. I think she could tell I was
very overwhelmed. I'm feeling anxious hearing this
story. I'm not an organized person, so
planning a wedding was like, honestly, my mind was spinning
with the amount of layers to organize.
Yeah. And I sort of last minute
decided my sister, by the way. But a back story was getting
married in September, so a couple of months after.
And she'd always wanted the sort of Annie's Ibiza corset little
short dress. And I kind of wanted that too.
But I thought, you know what, she really wants that.
So I've got to do something different.
And I didn't want another long dress.
I wanted something different. So we decided on sort of a
skirt. It was going to be a bit more
bohemian looking. I I really wanted to change into
flats after the Big Dress. I didn't.
You'll be happy to know, no? No, no, no.
I'm. I'm in awe of people that can
keep their heels on for the whole time.
Unbelievable. And you did.
Talent. I changed into like a Colt Kaya
Sandly Wedge, which isn't doesn't sound very nice, but
they were comfy. Yeah, so I changed out of the
pointy heels I actually wore. Not heels that I I dreaded them
getting photographs. So Jamie's Jamie's not that tall
and with my first wedding wear, my shoes were showing.
So all these Jimmy Choo heels. Which were beautiful and lovely
limbs coming out of that Vivienne Westwood.
Thank you. And he there's got a few photos
of him on the highest stack kissing because we weren't
saying hi. And he said he kept saying, so
you're going to wear these heels again.
And then I changed into a two piece.
It was a skirt and the lace underneath it was the same lace
as the main wedding dress. And then in my veil she
embroidered my grandparents names, 04 of them.
That was special. Beautiful.
Did you have a a bridal style icon?
Oh yeah. I kind of like Haley Beavers,
so. So she was on your on your mood
board? She was.
And I I I didn't go too far, I must say.
I'd like to say it was all, but you know, I always did.
Like, I don't know why. I've always loved lace.
And again, my sister went for a very traditional Princess corset
with a huge skirt silk. So I wanted to do something very
different. To her.
What did you wear to her wedding?
I she I wore a bridesmaid dress and it was gold silk.
Did you approve? I approved.
I liked it, Yeah. Great.
If you were getting married all over again, is there anything
that you would change from what you did choose?
I think on my Sunday the pool party, I was kind of like I've I
had this sense of it, just it's done now and I didn't wear.
I had a really cool beach called Gaia, like crochet two piece,
and it was quite cloudy. It rained actually, and I'm a
cold person so I put on jeans and a green cardigan because I
had nothing else and I really regret it.
I really am like why did you not?
And I'm never going to wear that two piece again and like it
plays on my mind a lot. So I would have just worn all
the looks and really gone for it.
And yeah, it's your well. Good advice though, Yeah, to
anyone listening that's deciding whether they wear the green
cashmere and jeans. Yeah, don't do it.
Just keep being a bride for as long.
As you can, what ignited your passion for beauty?
I so when I was younger I had I won't say acne because it wasn't
acne but to me I didn't have good skin.
I had loads of sort of bumps under my skin and I don't know,
I I we tried lots of different things.
I don't know whether it was hormone or whatever, but since
then I was so self-conscious over it and I just could never,
you think you'd solved it and the next day you'd wake up and
there was something else. And so I got into hydrofacial
was actually quite young at like 16 because.
They it is a hydrofacial. So a hydrofacial for anyone
listening who's never had one, they sort of it's a deep cleanse
with the machine. It's a seven step or six step
machine and it's sort of exfoliates it, it extracts, it
hydrates. So it puts lots of hyaluronic
acid back in your skin. It's quite, very safe and not
using any serious active creams or ingredients so you can use
it, you know, I was 16 when I started and that sort of made me
very interested in my skin and what I was putting into it.
And then what happened was I when I first started made in
Chelsea, we did my first year, we did it on a way trip to Sri
Lanka and I got Melasma, which I didn't know what it was.
And I was 24 and I thought I'd had a spray tan before I went
and I thought they'd splattered it across my face because it was
sort of and like we were in Sri Lanka and it obviously come out
with the sun. So I'm scrapping it off.
I was what is this? I'd never had anything like that
before and of course I didn't know what it was So and I was
really bad with sun cream. So anyone listening, Please wear
sun cream. And it just got worse and worse
and worse. And so it's been a journey since
24. I'm now 29.
I've gone through loads of different things to try and get
my melasma because it's pretty. It never goes just to keep it at
Bay. And that's where it's really
come into play. And so are you super careful
with SPF every day? I wear a cap.
Even in the winter, if it's sunny and I'm walking about, I'm
so. That's you just being discreet,
hiding from the press, but talking about as an influencer
with over 1,000,000 followers on various channels, which is
incredible by the way. You must get showered with
clothes by brands wanting to reach your audience.
How do you handle that? I think when I first got sort of
into dip, my turn, I was like, this is amazing, but I there's
only six. Very lucky Fuzzy.
I must say. I'm in a really lucky.
I'm super grateful. I mean, it's so amazing that
anyone would ever want to send me their clothes.
I think there's definitely times you've got to pick who fuzzy the
ethics behind brands, whether you want to wear their clothes
and whether it is your style. Do brands approach you?
Or do you just open the door in the morning and there are just a
million parcels on your doorstep?
I must say, I don't actually often get gift gifted clothes.
I get gifted a lot of beauty products, which I'm not mad
about, but I also I give my wonderful PA is often at my
house boxing them up and we give them to charity because there is
a lot of stuff that, like you said, I haven't asked for or
agreed to and I don't know it's coming and it arrives at the
door and obviously you know I'm not going to.
So which charity would you give that?
To we give it to women's refugees.
Oh, how lovely. Yeah, which is really nice.
But we don't often get clothes, so maybe I'm doing something
wrong. If you had one particular brand
that you could be gifted, by which brand would that be?
This is really hard. I like Isabelle Moran.
Very cool, very cool. Fundamentally, who do you think
you dress for? Do you dress for yourself,
Jamie? Your audience.
I definitely don't dress for Jamie, but not in the sense.
When you're alert, Jamie. Yes, that is.
I just don't think he would notice.
Blast his soul like, I just don't.
He think he really, really honestly likes me in tracksuit
bottoms. Like he'd he's not a very glam
fashionist. Often when I wear clothes to a
red carpet, he'll be like, oh, what you wearing?
And I'm like, yes, please, please.
So I definitely dress. I think I dress for myself.
I mean, talking about red carpet, do you find the red
carpet dressing exciting or stressful?
I find it really exciting, but that is because I have a
stylist, so you know, I have guidance and help and she pulls
really cool brands and really cool outfits and I love her and
get on with her so well. And that's a stylist
specifically for red carpets or for life in general.
Just. For Rep events, yeah, no, I
don't get her on the day-to-day. When do you feel that you really
discovered your style DNA? I would say not not far, like
not that long ago. I think, like I said to you,
when I first I like being comfy and I think that was really
hard. I'd sort of and again it was the
colours. I always felt like I needed to
be wearing what everyone else was there and I'm just quite a
comfy every day. I would like to stay
understated. Not that now very well.
Last time it was that understated griping, but I would
like to say that that's sort of where I find myself feeling most
comfortable. And I'm drawn to those clothes.
So sort of timeless. I'm.
I mean, honestly, you're probably like, no, no.
No, not at all. But what would you reach for to
feel empowered? I love like a a really smart
suit two piece. And from where, which brand
would you? OK, and every day that like
reasonable price. I'm a massive fan of Mass MO
duty. Beautifully.
Cut really nice but I love the trousers there and it fits me
and it's it's not hugely expensive but it feels expensive
so I love their stuff. And Money no object.
Money. No.
Object. Oh my goodness, this is hard.
Hypothetical, hypothetical dresses.
You. I never know even.
Can I just say I have to. I have to tell this story.
I told my mum I was on your coming on your podcast and she
told me this story that she went to a wedding and the dress code
was for females. Amanda Wakeley dresses.
Oh my God, I said. It was the most incredible
wedding with this and the other and I can even do it.
I I am so flattered and I've never heard that story.
But that's just. Lovely, I have to tell you.
Oh. Thank you for sharing that.
Oh my God, I'd love to see the pictures from that wedding.
I know. I think my mom was like, to my
dad, I was. She was like, it was the best
excuse because she was like, I've got to get myself one.
And do you do you remember what she wore?
I don't think I was. There.
I think it was before my time or I might have been very young,
but I must get a photo and show you how many whole weddings do
everyone in your dress. Do you ever raid your mother's
wardrobe? I definitely did.
She lives in Portugal now, so it's quite that's harder.
It's hard, but I definitely did. My God, that was a constant
argument because I would just be wearing her clothes and probably
not treating them. Without asking.
That's a good one. That's a good one.
If someone were to describe your style in three words, what would
you want those 3 words to be? Oh my goodness, that's really
hard without also sounding big headed.
No, but that's why I say someone else describing your style.
So I'm not saying to you, how would you describe your style in
your dreams? How would you like to be
described? In my dream.
In your dream. In my dreams and chic and.
Relaxed love that in my dream, so it wasn't that hard.
It wasn't that. Do you think you've got a style
icon? Do I have a style icon?
I love Rosie Huntington, Whiteley's style, and I also
like Katie Bieber's style. Sometimes I think it's just not
what I would wear because she pulls it off so well, but I just
think she always looks really amazing.
But I think Rosie Huntington might be is very effortless.
Very beautiful. Now you lead a very busy life.
Is your wardrobe phenomenally organized?
It's not. It's really badly.
Sort of knew you were going to say that you're heading off on
tour with your podcast. So exciting, very exciting.
How are you going to plan your looks for that?
This is very exciting. I'm really excited about this
because I feel like I'm having a bit more fun.
I wanna have fun with it, so I don't know.
I'll have to have a think and and depending on weather as well
and comfort. And will you will you work with
your stylist on? That yeah, so work with her.
Mostly because I just she's, I mean she's amazing or she does
and the look she pulls up I always love, but I just get on
with her as well. So great to get her.
Good excuse, good excuse to hang out together.
Do you plan your looks at the beginning of a week?
If I have something big, I definitely will be thinking,
well, I like to see it like as I'm going to sleep, I'll think
about it. I couldn't go to This is why I'm
upset about today, But I couldn't go to something and
have something come around and go to sleep not knowing what I'm
going to wear for that. But if I was just day-to-day, I
wouldn't be planning it. So what was planned for today?
No, because you have to see it. It was going to be chic.
It was going to be all camel, some white trousers like a
camel, cashmere jumper. Not there.
Oh, that sounds gorgeous. We can imagine it.
Anyhow, when you're unsure of a look, who do you trust for to
give an opinion on what you're wearing?
Would it be Jamie? No, it would be my best friend,
Melissa. He does Wednesdays with me and
she's she's brutal. So she'll be like, no, like she
really she rearranged. I had a different ring on my
engagement finger actually just because like I don't know why I
was trying to stack it and she was like, no, no, no, that does
not look. She.
So she I do ask her and we have very similar style.
Let's talk about travel. Do you pay particular attention
to what you're wearing to travel in your airport look?
I I don't like to go completely off the rails.
I like to be comfy, but this would be something I would
travel in same colour scheme but comfy and wide trousers, floaty
trousers always. You good Packer, bad Packer.
Terrible Packer. I'd never wear any of the
clothes I bring and I bring always colourful clothes and
then I end up just wearing the white the cream.
And so she the monotone girl. I know, I don't know why I do
it. What luggage do you use?
I use remember. Lovely.
Thank you. Lovely.
Does that help organize you? No, no, but it looks you.
It's actually Jamie's. So I mean, I don't.
Know. So if you're going for longer
than overnight, honestly how many bags do you pack?
It depends. Probably just one big one and a
little, but I Jamie's so I always shove half my stuff in
his as well as well, yeah. Now I talking about travel, I I
know you're a keen skier, is that right?
What are your go to ski wear brands?
Goldberg's Lovely. Is that how you pronounce it?
Yes. OK.
I love that stuff. Very expensive.
And I've recently, very kindly been given a wonderful jacket
from my Sunday ski. And it's green.
Oh my goodness, the green. That really is going green
Puffer and I'm feeling it, so I'm going to go for that.
That sounds super cool. Talking about travel.
Have you ever had any sort of luggage disasters?
Yep, Honeymoon Jamie lost his luggage.
Only on your honeymoon. I know, Can you believe it?
The the whole journey from start to finish was disastrous.
We got delayed in, we flew to answer and we were delayed
getting asked. We missed the connecting flight.
They then put us on another flight which then was delayed.
They flew us back to UK in the evening after 12 hours of being
there only to get a flight to somewhere.
I mean it was just disastrous. And then we land and Jane mine.
My luggage comes through and Jamie's didn't, so we were stuck
in Panama which was 46% humidity 46° and he had just his
tracksuit that he travelled. In and your bikinis and my
bikini which did. Not look good on there and we
were on an island and there was no place to get close so he was
stuck. Nothing.
No, there was nothing. No hotel boutique.
No, the staff gave them the staff, the uniform.
So he was wearing the uniform and he was very entertaining for
me, but I think he got quite fed up with it.
That was a real disaster. Oh my God.
But I had my staff. Do you, do you, have you ever
sort of taken lessons out of that and sort of done what most
sensible people I know is have a wheelie with the fundamentals in
it? I know, no I still there, but
everyone says also you should mix if you're part travelling
with a partner put half and half so if one oh I.
Know. But it all gets a bit
exhausting. And and then and then you've got
all your shoes in one bag. And if you're me and then it
just is, it can be an equal disaster, yeah?
I need lessons on packing, that's for sure.
Well, you're off on the road next year.
Yeah, that's going to be a situation.
Wardrobe secret What, if anything, do you feel you've got
an excessive amount of in your wardrobe?
Jeans. Particular brands.
Levi Oh, like kind of the vintage ones.
I get some of them off vintage shops, websites and they all fit
reasonably similar. They're all kind of highways
were not too high, waisted just above the hip and not too baggy
on the bum, but not tight on the legs.
Straight. Maybe they're straight jeans.
And are you a one type of cut jeans girl or do you have
everything from skinnies to Uber wide legs to cargoes to?
I have everything. I have everything.
But I'm I'm not. I don't wear skinnies that much.
I've got a lot of them flared at the moment.
OK, so guilty secret. What is the most expensive item
of clothing that you've bought? I'm not asking for the price
tag, but what is that item? Oh, is it?
Can I say my wedding dress? Yeah, I think it'd be my wedding
dress. But that's beautiful.
Do you think? Do you see yourself ever wearing
that again? No, but I don't see myself like
changing it. You know how people caught it up
And I wanted to say exactly how it is and maybe I don't think
I'll fit into it. Oh, stop it.
Stop. But when you're buying not a
wedding dress but something that is expensive, do you ever
justify it as pounds per wear coat?
And bags. Oh, my bag.
Probably. I've got bags.
Maybe there's. My bag or bags?
One bag. OK, guilty secret there.
Are we allowed to know what what bag that was?
Just this Chanel. Just the show.
What What is it? The.
The famous Oh not only what it's.
Called the 55. I think so.
Oh, how lovely. That sounds good, but I think I
justify that because that's an investment.
Would you ever buy, would you ever buy a piece like that from
a a second hand website of, you know, vintage website?
Yeah, I have some vintage bags actually.
I think it's called my Fitbit vintage, but without the eyes.
So spot like that and it's all vintage bags and I've got some
from there. And does that feel more
sustainable? It does.
And also they are a lot cheaper and it's really cool to They
look cool because they're not around now.
Yeah. Do you ever sell your clothes?
I don't sell my clothes, but I give a lot of my stuff away to
charity. But I think maybe it would be
something that I should do is maybe sell it and then use that
money and give that money to charity.
I know a lot of people do that because there are a little
things that at the moment my I've had a calling recently and
so there's not much that needs to go.
But there definitely was, you know, back in the day, lots of
fuss. And that would go to charity,
yeah. And any particular charity that
you like to support? I like to support my charity and
then sort of just any women's charities.
And any favorite vintage haunts? Do you buy your vintage online
or do you, I mean, you live up in in West London, let's put it
that way. There's lots of vintage around
there. Yes, there's one shop which I
get lots of vintage sunglasses from.
They're not very, very bright all the time.
My Lover's Lane, I think it's called, It's Just at the top of
Portobello and it's got great stuff, but vintage stuff isn't.
That sort of vintage stuff isn't that cheap, so I need to.
No, And but also with sunglasses, do you ever worry
about the lenses not actually being as good as they should be?
And I think I find that I definitely don't think they are.
I don't know if that is something, maybe they were.
I think it was just you know the the technology is very different
now. You know with some of these
modern lenses are just incredible in terms of they
don't scratch as much and the the UVA and the UVB protection
is much, much higher right now, right.
Let's move on to some quick fire questions.
What fashion advice would you give your 20 year old self?
Don't try and follow everyone else and just wear what you
really want to wear good. Which fashion trend would you
most like to see make a comeback?
Oh gosh, this is hard. Oh my God there.
I can't think of any. Don't worry, Skip.
What fashionable beauty trend would you consign to Room 101?
Broadicon scarce. Your last impulse buy.
My last impulse buy oh, some ski ski gloves that I do not need.
Views on tattoos. My husband's covered in them,
so. And personal views in terms of
your own. Not not.
I think they're really cool. It's always a debate on my mind,
but I don't think I'll ever get one.
Beauty treatment. You couldn't give up.
Beauty treatment couldn't. Give up, Gwasha.
What is Gwasha? The the the little tool, the
facial machine like tool that you rub across your face and
lymphatic drainage. Looking at your skin, I think
it's time to buy one. High end or High Street, High
end? Bling or bear bling.
Minimalism or maximalism? Minimalism.
Couture or charity shop? Charity shop.
Crocs cute or puke? Puke sneakers or stilettos?
Sneakers. Skinnies, Boyfriends or wide
legs? Boyfriends.
Bodycon or boho Boho. Sports Lux or Rock chick?
Sports. Lux experimental unit or
uniform? Bit of both, can I say that?
You could say that cashmere or cotton.
Cashmere. Shapewear or sexy lingerie?
Shapewear. No, not your age, please.
And your body. I love Spanx.
Tights or stockings or hold UPS, Tights, bikini or one piece.
Bikini. Beanie or Berry?
Beanie. And finally, at the end of the
day, what do you or don't you wear in bed?
I don't wear pyjama bottoms. Is that what you're asking?
Can we revisit that? What do you or don't you wear?
Oh, I do wear a big T-shirt to sleep in And a pants.
Sophie, what a blast. It's been great fun chatting to
you. All things style related today.
Thank you so much for having me. I've absolutely loved.
It What fun. Thank you.