1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,640 Today I'm going on a style journey with podcaster, 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,040 influencer and brand ambassador Sophie Habu. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,520 Hello and welcome Sophie. Hello. 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,000 I'm so excited to be here. I'm delighted to have you here. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,080 You're a super busy girl right now. 6 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:23,600 I mean, not one, but two podcasts. 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,520 One called Newlyweds. Yeah, with your husband, Jamie 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,480 Lange. Yes. 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,120 Double whammy. How's that? 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,360 How's that working with your husband? 11 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:36,040 It's got easier when it was nearly Weds, which is free 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,600 wedding. Nearly weds to newlyweds. 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,200 It was, I mean, really original. It was. 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,680 It was a struggle. Then with the lead up to the 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,160 wedding, I found with the stress of it and a sharing all of it 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,680 is, it feels like a breeze compared to that. 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,000 Now I really we've sort of got into the group of it. 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,160 But so what's the next chapter going to be gone? 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,280 Nearly weds to newlyweds. I don't know. 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,760 Nearly divorced. Hopefully not. 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,600 I don't know what you know. Hopefully may build a family and 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,800 all of those sorts of things like. 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,520 And have you decided what you'd call it with the one in the 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,200 oven? No. 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,160 What do you what do we think? Nearly nearly newly pregnant. 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,600 Blooming, Blooming. There you go. 27 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Love it. Names. 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,040 Blooming words. Blooming words. 29 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,760 Amazing. I don't know. 30 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,280 I need to think about that one now. 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,440 You famously were on Maiden Chelsea. 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,720 Did you meet Jamie? I met Jamie on a maiden Chelsea. 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,400 Now he for many years was like, we mustn't say that. 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,960 You have to pretend that we knew each other before and I'm like, 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,160 OK, And then like, as time's gone on, I've just forgotten 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,600 that we he didn't want me to say that. 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,000 So we did meet on the show and we weren't actually that. 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,800 I don't think we were friends for about a year and then we 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,360 went on an away trip films in Croatia and South Africa and we 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,040 became really close over those periods of time and became 41 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,680 really good friends and then it slowly really good. 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,320 Friends. She says yes. 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:18,760 But how was the experience going from private individual to 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,160 basically living in front of the camera? 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:28,040 I was, I must have been 23 when I started and I think made in 46 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,560 Chelsea back in the day when it first started was it was a lot 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,600 bigger. It was kind of the only reality 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,400 show out or maybe the 1st and and they were really sort of 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,360 thrown into the limelight when I joined. 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,680 It was a bit of a slow burner in the sense that yes, you were. 51 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Things were public, but I wasn't sort of walking down the street 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,680 and people like, Oh my God, it's Sophie Aveo. 53 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,920 I don't think anyone knew who I was. 54 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:55,440 So it was a real slow burner. I don't. 55 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,320 It definitely had its ups and its downs and I think it took 56 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,520 some time to navigate putting all of that out there. 57 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,760 Because that is young, you know, I often think about it with 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,800 people very much in the public eye. 59 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,120 When they're very young, whether they're in music or art or or 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:20,640 whatever, it's a lot to take on. Yeah, I think looking back on it 61 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:25,080 now and I mean I'm 29 now. Looking back on it, it was more 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,680 so the lifestyle. I think there was no structure 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,560 and obviously we're filming the show. 64 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Your life's are really in the producers hands like they're 65 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,960 telling you where you're turning up, they're telling you you can 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,280 do this, you can go to this christening or this person's 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,560 wedding or you can't because you've you're contracted to 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,960 film. I think that took a while to get 69 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,800 used to. And then when you come out of 70 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,320 that, it's almost, that's where you sort of struggle a bit 71 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,680 because I was used to sort of being in this bubble and then 72 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,760 when I left the show, I was like, oh, well, what do I do 73 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,640 now? So that was sort of because all 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,320 my sort of 20s were doing the show, really. 75 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:06,960 And how did you swivel? I I think my first year coming 76 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,360 off the show, I was like, what do I do now? 77 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,640 I had a lot of free time. I was like, and also that the 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,399 adrenaline of having that drama every day and you're sort of 79 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:19,839 living in this world of it's exciting, but it's also quite 80 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,880 toxic it's. There's a lot of jeopardy, isn't 81 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,720 it, that? Totally. 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,880 And you're sort of bred to like, revel in the toxicity and the 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,200 cheating and the drama and the bitching and and then when it 84 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,080 goes and everything's peaceful, I was suddenly like, oh, I'm 85 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,440 quite bored. But actually it was sort of 86 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,040 learning to be OK with. It's not boredom, this is just 87 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,560 peacefulness and happiness like. Life. 88 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,840 Life. Did you did you find yourself 89 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:50,200 consciously processing that? Yeah, I've. 90 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,520 I've. I felt uncomfortable. 91 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,720 I think I was a bit like what? I didn't know my place. 92 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,440 I didn't know where I was going to go. 93 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,320 I didn't know which route my career was going to go. 94 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,400 You know, suddenly you've in this industry kind of have to. 95 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,200 What I found like there's a lot of people doing the same thing 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,360 and it's hard to sort of know what you're going to do and 97 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,040 there's a lot of uncertainty. And what was your first sort of 98 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,440 move? What was the the first 99 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,520 opportunity that came up after maiden chances? 100 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:27,280 I guess sort of it was just sort of coasting and then we very off 101 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:29,920 the back of I mean Jamie's obviously been doing podcasts 102 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,080 for a long time. He did programs I don't know 103 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,840 like 10 years or something crazy. 104 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:41,200 And I think we we got engaged and then he very sporadically 105 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,040 was like, let's just do a podcast see how it is. 106 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,360 And I didn't think anything of it. 107 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,120 I also did not think anyone would listen to me. 108 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,400 I say all the wrong things. I get think my mouth muddled up 109 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,040 all the time. So I was like, this really isn't 110 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,920 going to be my thing And then it people somehow liked it And so 111 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,160 that's sort of where it's gone from there and it's been 112 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,800 something to do and it's we've had lots of fun with it and I 113 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,560 think that's kind of. It's got into the podcasting. 114 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,280 It's very infectious, I I have to say. 115 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,160 And then you've got your other podcast Wednesdays. 116 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,840 Yeah. And actually we did do that 117 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:15,560 before. That was quite a slow burn and 118 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,840 me and my friend have been doing that maybe since before lockdown 119 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:23,360 or mid lockdown, so 2020. And that's with my best friend. 120 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,640 And we, we honestly used to just come around to my house and we'd 121 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,240 have a bottle of wine and just gossip. 122 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:31,040 And Jamie would always be in the background and he was like, you 123 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,480 guys should really record this. And that's how that sort of 124 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,960 went. And that literally was the 125 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,640 inspiration, yeah. And it's just us gossiping. 126 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,960 And it's great. And I love it because I don't. 127 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,040 It feels like I'm just catching up with my best friend. 128 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,920 So what other exciting projects do you have up your sleeve? 129 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,640 So I've had a bit of fun this year with designing and like 130 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,240 creating collections with. I've done it with Coast and I 131 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,160 think there's about four collections out with them. 132 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,240 And then I've recently just done a collection with USA Pro, which 133 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,760 is a gym wear brand, and designed some sort of everyday 134 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,160 gym wear so you can wear it when you're not actually in the gym 135 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,560 and you're just walking around wherever you're walking around. 136 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,560 And how did you approach that? Did you approach it in the way 137 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,000 of What do I really want to wear? 138 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,760 Yeah I did sort of what I would wear and what I would like and 139 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,520 what would be comfy, but equally what's flattering for other 140 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,480 sizes. And obviously it's hard I don't 141 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,800 know you're probably you're definitely the expert in this 142 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,320 but it's hard designing things that I think would fit everybody 143 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,760 in like suit everybody and everyone would feel comfortable 144 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,960 in. But I sort of looked around and 145 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,080 spoke to my friends and we tested out a couple things and 146 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,840 I'm I'm happy with this. Then your brand ambassador for a 147 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:50,880 couple of other brands, and I know that you model those brands 148 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,200 too. How do you find that process? 149 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,520 Oh my gosh. I I honestly said to Jamie the 150 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,840 other day, I said I couldn't be a model. 151 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,000 I mean, I couldn't be a model either because I'm not one. 152 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,920 But I think that is such a hard gig. 153 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,280 It's a real skill, actually. It's. 154 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Physically exposing, doing the gym work around, like the 155 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,360 tensing of my stomach and like trying to like you. 156 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,680 I think this is going to look nice And then they show it back 157 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,960 to me and I'm like no, no, no. How does it? 158 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,840 Filter. Not that you need that. 159 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,560 Not that you need that. And it's like hard, I don't 160 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,640 know. But yeah, so that that was kind 161 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,760 of. And also you just see yourself 162 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,520 so differently, something the photographer would be like, I 163 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,240 love this. So yeah, I'm like, I really 164 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,320 don't want that photo to go anywhere. 165 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,120 But I guess that's just insecurities and things 166 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,640 everybody has it's. Completely natural, completely 167 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,760 natural. But today we're going on a style 168 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,280 journey to get that weight. So how did you decide what you 169 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,880 were going to wear here today? OK, disclaimer, I spoke to Will. 170 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,960 I'm very upset with my outfit. I was meant to be able to go 171 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,280 home and change before coming to Amanda 8 Lee's forecast, but I'm 172 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,440 in very comfy laid back clothes because I newlyweds ran over my 173 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,480 podcast and I didn't get a chance to go home. 174 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,800 I love it. I love. 175 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:14,400 It because I always think of you as slightly as sporty, sporty 176 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,400 like. Cozy. 177 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,920 That type of vibe. So I'm not. 178 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Very glam. As in I really struggle with 179 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,600 things I don't feel comfortable in, so my trousers are always 180 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,080 quite baggy. I just wish I could wear my 181 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,200 mom's very glamorous. Huge fan of you. 182 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,800 She loves you. She's very excited and she, I 183 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,280 always look at God, I just wish, but I just feel very 184 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,400 uncomfortable and things that are really tight. 185 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:45,320 But do you think you your style evolved sort of almost away from 186 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,560 your mother's style to create your own space? 187 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:53,680 Is there any psychology in that? I think a lot of myself has come 188 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:56,240 from my mother in terms of tones. 189 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:59,440 She's always been, she's never sort of, you know, fashion. 190 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,440 It will be bright pink. So my mum is always like very 191 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:07,640 neutral, very cashmere, cozy, very, very chic, but like 192 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,880 understated. And I've never been big on 193 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,680 colours, so I don't know whether that's after her. 194 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,440 That's interesting. And were were you ever big on 195 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,560 colours even as a young girl? No pink or purple face. 196 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,000 No, I used to love. Everything I wanted to wear was 197 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,360 white. I love. 198 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,720 How super glamorous. I used to love wearing like 199 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,360 that. I was quite OCD as a child, so 200 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,240 I'm not sure whether that has something to do with. 201 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,120 It Were you very aware of your parents style growing up? 202 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,400 I was very aware of my mom, loved clothes and very was very 203 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,200 stylish. I remember weirdly though, my 204 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,960 mom used to live in flare jeans and I used to be really 205 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,320 embarrassed of her wearing flare jeans. 206 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,000 She swear them with like heeled Cowboys, which now I'm like she 207 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,640 actually looks so chic and cool, but I think she didn't dress how 208 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,520 the other mums dressed. So what era would what decade 209 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,480 would that so? I was born in 1994 and this is 210 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,040 when I was before I was 11 so. So late 90s, early. 211 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:13,040 Yes, and she was quite cool and like jeans and denim and she'd 212 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,280 wear like leather jacket and and all the other mums, sort of. 213 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,720 I don't want to say Pompey, but they didn't dress like she did. 214 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,640 And I actually was really embarrassed. 215 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,320 I used to be like, please stop looking so glamorous. 216 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,240 It's. Funny, isn't it? 217 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,160 That whole school gate trauma. Yes, but picking me up, I was 218 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,440 like, please just be wearing. I can't think what they were 219 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,560 wearing, but I'd be like, please don't be wearing fled. 220 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,920 And how interesting that you now look back on it and think she 221 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,880 was probably the chicest mum at the school gate. 222 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,720 I know. But she's forgiven you? 223 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,280 I. Hope. 224 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,400 But but what is your earliest sartorial memory? 225 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,280 The the memory that you have, the first time that you put 226 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,760 something on and it felt really good, or it felt really bad and 227 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,840 you knew you just didn't want to be in it. 228 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:05,240 Oh my goodness, that's a really interesting question. 229 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:10,200 OK, this is really strange, but I remember being the only person 230 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:15,040 who would wear ballet pumps and I think they must everyone else 231 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,120 more like clumpy trainers and all like comfy shoes. 232 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,800 And I had these like really sweet lab that they were from my 233 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Bay at Old Town, I remember and they were quite Spanishy, maybe 234 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,120 European, and they were like ballet pubs and I was really 235 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,840 kind of embarrassed to wear them. 236 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,840 And also loafers. I used to wear loafers but I 237 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,680 loved them and I thought they looked really cool, but I was 238 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:38,600 almost embarrassed with in front of my friends. 239 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,160 At what sort of age are we talking? 240 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,800 Oh my God, I must have been 9. And these you'd bought in Spain 241 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,680 when you were there? Yes, because we used to spend 242 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:50,880 our summers in Spain. In My Bear and I, all of the 243 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,360 people who lived in the area, we were in work from Madrid and 244 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,000 they had this European style and they would wear like Ralph 245 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,320 Lauren and linen and they'd always have loafer leather 246 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,120 loafers. And they were just very 247 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,840 different to how my English friends dress. 248 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,080 And so I would go to Spain and I would start dressing how they 249 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,480 dressed. And then I would come back at 250 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,240 the end of summer and still be wearing it sort of September 251 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,480 time for the beginning first time of school. 252 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,200 And I'd always feel really embarrassed and I'd want to put 253 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,800 on like the the sketches that everyone in England. 254 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,360 And were you in a school uniform at the time? 255 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,520 Or yes, yes, but the shoes? Were you allowed to wear your 256 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,880 ballet pump? You were allowed. 257 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,320 And so I was wearing little leather ballet pumps. 258 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,120 And my mum, I remember in winter I'd wear brogues and ever. 259 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,440 No one else would, and I was sort of embarrassed. 260 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,440 But I also was like, I don't want to wear the clocks with the 261 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Valkyrie strap, so I did wear them. 262 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,560 Was your interest in clothes more from your years in Spain, 263 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:54,320 or were you more influenced by living in London? 264 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,120 Would you say I? Think when I was younger, I 265 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:04,160 definitely preferred what the Spanish, that sort of clothing 266 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,240 to what my friends in all people in England would wear. 267 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:13,280 But then when I got to probably like 15, I definitely was very 268 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,320 like, oh, that's what everyone was in London. 269 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,800 And it was sort of about God that time. 270 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,720 It was like the fedora hats and the skinny jeans. 271 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,400 And I remember the skinny jeans were really in and the leather 272 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,920 sort of look jeans and I and the Giles and I was wearing all of 273 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,400 that. But so, no rebellious teens, No. 274 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,880 I didn't have any weird. My mum did keep a cap on it. 275 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,080 She my sister was more rebellious. 276 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,640 She sort of wanted to wear and no one thing we did do which was 277 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,520 awful we would have our hair up with one strand like this and I 278 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,640 remember my mum would be like oh can we just And I was so 279 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,080 obsessed with it being scraped back off my face and my like 280 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,480 please don't. And then also the plucking of 281 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,920 the eyebrows that was and the body con skirts they they were. 282 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,480 I look back in my night. And how short were the body Con 283 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,200 Short, short, short And how much make up? 284 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,480 Oh, the dream at me. And again, I remember my mom 285 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,120 would throw it away and I would scramble through the bin. 286 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,560 I just that's painful. Looking back and think, Looking 287 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,680 at the makeup and the concealer of my lips, it's awful. 288 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,840 But you rose to fame at 24, Yeah? 289 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,960 Do you feel like being in the spotlight at such a young age 290 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:34,080 affected your fashion choices? I think maybe I wore things that 291 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,920 I wouldn't have worn. I tried to be more fashiony 292 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:42,520 again with colour, like I'm not that I like style, but I don't 293 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,160 know. There's often things that are in 294 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,400 fashion that I don't like and they're just not for me. 295 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,360 And I think I've probably tried to wear those sort of things. 296 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,440 And looking back on it, I'm a bit like, Oh no, that didn't 297 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:53,720 look. Right. 298 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,400 Did the show have a stylist? Were you? 299 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,240 No. No. 300 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,560 No makeup artist. No style. 301 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,920 So you were fully self styled? Fully self styled. 302 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,480 But you were thinking I should try something. 303 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,160 I could think I might have wanted to look a bit Chelsea, 304 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,440 which sometimes wasn't me. Why? 305 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,680 Because you're more Notting Hill. 306 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,440 No, but I don't know. I think I probably wanted to 307 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,880 look like raw, like at times and it's just like not, you know, I 308 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,800 don't know and maybe I tried too hard the in the first year. 309 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,040 So what is RAW in your in your eyes? 310 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,520 OK. So I remember at the beginning 311 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,440 everyone was sort of, well, like I said, the sort of Giles and 312 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,680 the hats and the Stuart Wise and boots, like the Suede boots and 313 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,800 like. The over the knees. 314 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,440 Yes, and it just, it didn't look right on. 315 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,760 It wasn't even that I don't like it. 316 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,440 It's just that I went out of my way to get that to be like 317 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,880 because I thought this must be what Chelsea people were like. 318 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,480 This is what I should be wearing. 319 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:57,800 Fascinating. Are you very conscious of what 320 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,160 you wear when you're filming your podcasts? 321 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,880 No, I'm not, and I probably should be. 322 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:08,920 In a word, no. I definitely used to wet with us 323 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:09,800 as well. It's only top. 324 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,440 You can always see the top off and I started thinking, well, 325 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,960 it's kind of getting wasted. But with Wednesdays, I actually 326 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,800 we try and you know, think about, you know, I don't want to 327 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,839 turn up in my track suits every time. 328 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,599 And do you Are you conscious of having different looks for the 329 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:29,360 two different podcasts? I would like to we film on two 330 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:31,880 different days, so I try and change my outfits. 331 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:32,920 So. But. 332 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:38,160 So do you have a certain look for newlyweds and a certain look 333 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,200 for Wednesdays? Maybe Wednesdays. 334 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,160 I would definitely try and, you know, dress how I would dress to 335 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,720 go out for lunch with a friend, yeah. 336 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,920 Or have a. Glass of wine or three or three. 337 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,600 Do you actually drink while you're? 338 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,040 We did and we've stopped because we started filming at 10:00 AM 339 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,320 and we were like, I don't think this is a good idea anymore. 340 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,000 Wine at 10. AM on a Monday, it's probably Oh 341 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:07,360 yeah, oh. As you evolved your style, do 342 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:11,320 you think you were very aware of how what you chose would look 343 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,600 like on film or even on your grid, for example? 344 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:20,040 No, I don't think I've necessary. 345 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,040 I think going to sort of red carpets and things like that. 346 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,680 I definitely think, oh, would this look flattering? 347 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,280 I've learned like some things just are not flattering. 348 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,920 Any real fashion howlers? Oh yeah, I've definitely had 349 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,960 some, but I also just like just some. 350 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,600 I have a really low my chest is long and so I just anything sort 351 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,040 of boob tubby. It's showing too much from my 352 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,080 chest. I just don't. 353 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,520 It doesn't suit me. So those sorts of things. 354 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,160 Looking in a mirror, I don't see it as much as one of photos 355 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,000 taken. I'm always a big fan of If in 356 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,720 doubt, take a selfie in the mirror. 357 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,760 Really and. Then look at that picture 358 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,000 objectively. These are the. 359 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,160 Tips I need? Oh, you've you've got it so 360 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:13,120 sussed. As a newlywed, obviously you 361 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:19,480 have wedding choices. You had not one but three 362 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,840 wedding dresses. Can you tell me a little bit 363 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,160 about what drove those decisions? 364 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,320 So we obviously got married in London and I wanted we had a a 365 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,840 London wedding, the official wedding. 366 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,720 So that was that was town hall. Yes, Yep. 367 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,000 And that was to obviously, like, sign the papers. 368 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,920 And I I always knew my Spanish wedding. 369 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,880 I wanted it to be pretty traditional, but I didn't know 370 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,920 in what sense. But I knew that the London 371 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,720 wedding, I sort of wanted a bit to have a bit more fun. 372 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,000 I never wanted to wear a long dress for my London wedding. 373 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,680 And I don't know, I I just found that I can't remember. 374 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,320 Is it Vivienne Westwood? Yes, it's. 375 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,960 Vivienne Westwood, because I've seen pictures of it. 376 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,680 Her iconic dress. Well there's a story behind 377 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,440 that. There was none in my size. 378 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,560 I think I'm wearing a sample and it was a bit ripped like the the 379 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,480 straight, like the the sort of stitching was because it was 380 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,880 sample, there was none in my side. 381 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,040 But I tried it the sample on and they were trying to find me 382 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,000 another one that wasn't. So I ended up wearing that one 383 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,480 and then I couldn't get it off the zip Jarred. 384 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,400 So we actually I slept in it, which was boning. 385 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,720 I thought my ribs were going to collapse in the morning and at 386 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,240 11:00 AM, after trying for hours, my mum was going off now. 387 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,640 We just had to cut it. There's that fabulous picture of 388 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,240 you and Jamie coming out of down the steps and of the Chelsea 389 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,840 Register office and you're wearing sunglasses. 390 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,000 Yes, that was a very last minute decision. 391 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,240 Because. So they were my mum's 392 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,240 sunglasses. Oh, how lovely. 393 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,720 She put them on and I didn't have mine. 394 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,360 And Jamie put his on and, I don't know, there was a lot of 395 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,280 press outside. I think I just thought, I'm like 396 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,680 your mum, can I have your sunglasses? 397 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,320 Not even thinking what they look OK or anything. 398 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,960 And she just took them off and gave them to me and they. 399 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Seem to look kind of good, but something old, something. 400 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:23,760 How lovely because they look so cool. 401 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,680 So those golden, you know, with your golden colors and those 402 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,720 golden glasses. Thank gosh. 403 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,720 Yeah, very good. They were sort of black or they 404 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,240 could have been. Very iconic paparazzi esque 405 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,120 shots. Did were you sort of did you 406 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,040 think about how your wedding was going to those wedding pictures 407 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,200 were going to look before that moment? 408 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:49,560 I wanted them to sort of be black and white and vintagey and 409 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,800 sort of like, I don't know, like a bit more fun than the 410 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,680 traditional. And we had Ben Wheeler, who's 411 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,720 amazing photographer, and he shot our friends the year before 412 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:03,240 and hers was sort of very ethereal and in a forest. 413 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,760 And I knew that he had done London City Weddings and he 414 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,040 could get that sort of, like, I don't know, vintagey look. 415 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:15,600 It just felt a sort of, I want to say urban glam. 416 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:21,200 It was a combination of real Chelsea registry office but 417 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,680 super glam and then the the timelessness of the black and 418 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,000 white I thought was. He was lovely, amazing and he I 419 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,920 think it's so just he was just great because we didn't know he 420 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,920 was there. That and you can really see that 421 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,240 in the pictures. It's just those lovely court 422 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,800 moments and I think that's a real skill and you're you guys 423 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,320 are just sort of wrapped up in this joyous moment. 424 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,920 So that's wedding dress number one. 425 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,360 That's wedding dress number one, then #2. 426 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,360 Then #2, so I trying to think how I did go and try on a few 427 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:57,560 wedding dresses. How was that process? 428 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,080 I found that really overwhelming because I liked them all. 429 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,760 And I, I, I mean a big Princess, you know, the corset with the 430 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,760 massive skirt I never thought would be my vibe. 431 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,280 And I was very close to getting. I can't remember who it was, but 432 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,000 terrible. Maybe it was Alexander McQueen. 433 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,520 Did you go to a a sort of bridal emporium that that sold all 434 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,560 different brands? The London Bridal shop or 435 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,600 whatever, and the Pernovius and all of. 436 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,520 The Oh, and did you Did your mother come too? 437 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,160 Mom came too. So did my sister. 438 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,960 So we were all there and it was really special and I loved it 439 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,160 and. Emotional. 440 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,080 Emotional. Yeah, I definitely. 441 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,280 So I did cry with one other dress. 442 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,400 And then what happened was I thought I was going to get that 443 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,920 dress. I went again to try it on with 444 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,000 my friends and they loved it. And it was all this thing. 445 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,360 And we were like, we found the dress. 446 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:53,400 And then that evening my friend sent me a screenshot and she'd 447 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,720 seen three other people wearing it. 448 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,960 We were like, what do we do? Can't get married. 449 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,640 And that one and my friend who had had Ben Wheeler and got 450 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,760 married the year before had her dress made by Emma Beaumont, 451 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,400 who's a wedding dress designer. And she said, Emma's like, has 452 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,480 mentioned that you're getting married and you know, if you 453 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,120 want to chat to her, you can and Emma's places in Manchester. 454 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,000 And so just with the busyness of planning the wedding, it took a 455 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,640 long time for me to be able to gallop to Manchester. 456 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600 And I was sort of holding all my bets on I'm just going to fall 457 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,280 in love for that and we're going to have this idea. 458 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,880 And she was so made me feel so safe because I knew that I 459 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,240 wanted I wanted lace, but not thin, sort of like a vintagey 460 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,160 creamier lace. And I wanted sleeves and I 461 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,840 wanted it to be fitted with sort of this tail, but I also wanted 462 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,960 it to be quite classic and like not too revealing. 463 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,560 And she just sort of was. I got it and I actually only 464 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,240 managed to go. So we fitted it once we pinned 465 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,000 me and then I only managed to see it one other time. 466 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,000 And then my second dress, which she made too, I didn't see until 467 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,760 the night I put it on. Oh my God. 468 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,120 Yeah. And did it fit you like a glove? 469 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:09,680 Yes, it clearly did. It did, but that was quite 470 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,520 risky. I don't know what happened to 471 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,040 me. I think what happened was I 472 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,480 rebelled as a bride because I was so overwhelmed. 473 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,240 I almost was like, Oh no, I don't don't wanna see anything. 474 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,200 So #3 dress you put on? Yeah, on the day of your 475 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,720 wedding. Yeah, and we were really up. 476 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,320 I I don't think we decided what we wanted to do until this, the 477 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,120 last fitting for the main dress. We she and again, Emma sort of 478 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:35,920 took it in her own. I think she could tell I was 479 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,440 very overwhelmed. I'm feeling anxious hearing this 480 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,400 story. I'm not an organized person, so 481 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,320 planning a wedding was like, honestly, my mind was spinning 482 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,800 with the amount of layers to organize. 483 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,080 Yeah. And I sort of last minute 484 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,160 decided my sister, by the way. But a back story was getting 485 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,160 married in September, so a couple of months after. 486 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,560 And she'd always wanted the sort of Annie's Ibiza corset little 487 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,120 short dress. And I kind of wanted that too. 488 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,840 But I thought, you know what, she really wants that. 489 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,240 So I've got to do something different. 490 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,320 And I didn't want another long dress. 491 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,320 I wanted something different. So we decided on sort of a 492 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,720 skirt. It was going to be a bit more 493 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,760 bohemian looking. I I really wanted to change into 494 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,600 flats after the Big Dress. I didn't. 495 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,080 You'll be happy to know, no? No, no, no. 496 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,240 I'm. I'm in awe of people that can 497 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,040 keep their heels on for the whole time. 498 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,360 Unbelievable. And you did. 499 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:33,360 Talent. I changed into like a Colt Kaya 500 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,000 Sandly Wedge, which isn't doesn't sound very nice, but 501 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,760 they were comfy. Yeah, so I changed out of the 502 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,440 pointy heels I actually wore. Not heels that I I dreaded them 503 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,720 getting photographs. So Jamie's Jamie's not that tall 504 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,680 and with my first wedding wear, my shoes were showing. 505 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,240 So all these Jimmy Choo heels. Which were beautiful and lovely 506 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,680 limbs coming out of that Vivienne Westwood. 507 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,560 Thank you. And he there's got a few photos 508 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,760 of him on the highest stack kissing because we weren't 509 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,120 saying hi. And he said he kept saying, so 510 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:13,440 you're going to wear these heels again. 511 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,680 And then I changed into a two piece. 512 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,280 It was a skirt and the lace underneath it was the same lace 513 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,880 as the main wedding dress. And then in my veil she 514 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,480 embroidered my grandparents names, 04 of them. 515 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,920 That was special. Beautiful. 516 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,200 Did you have a a bridal style icon? 517 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,240 Oh yeah. I kind of like Haley Beavers, 518 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,520 so. So she was on your on your mood 519 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,680 board? She was. 520 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,240 And I I I didn't go too far, I must say. 521 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,120 I'd like to say it was all, but you know, I always did. 522 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,200 Like, I don't know why. I've always loved lace. 523 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,600 And again, my sister went for a very traditional Princess corset 524 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,880 with a huge skirt silk. So I wanted to do something very 525 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,680 different. To her. 526 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,320 What did you wear to her wedding? 527 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,600 I she I wore a bridesmaid dress and it was gold silk. 528 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,800 Did you approve? I approved. 529 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,240 I liked it, Yeah. Great. 530 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,760 If you were getting married all over again, is there anything 531 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,040 that you would change from what you did choose? 532 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:23,160 I think on my Sunday the pool party, I was kind of like I've I 533 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,760 had this sense of it, just it's done now and I didn't wear. 534 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,880 I had a really cool beach called Gaia, like crochet two piece, 535 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,680 and it was quite cloudy. It rained actually, and I'm a 536 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,160 cold person so I put on jeans and a green cardigan because I 537 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,240 had nothing else and I really regret it. 538 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,520 I really am like why did you not? 539 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,680 And I'm never going to wear that two piece again and like it 540 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,000 plays on my mind a lot. So I would have just worn all 541 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,520 the looks and really gone for it. 542 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,080 And yeah, it's your well. Good advice though, Yeah, to 543 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,200 anyone listening that's deciding whether they wear the green 544 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,240 cashmere and jeans. Yeah, don't do it. 545 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Just keep being a bride for as long. 546 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,760 As you can, what ignited your passion for beauty? 547 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,120 I so when I was younger I had I won't say acne because it wasn't 548 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,040 acne but to me I didn't have good skin. 549 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,720 I had loads of sort of bumps under my skin and I don't know, 550 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,640 I I we tried lots of different things. 551 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,200 I don't know whether it was hormone or whatever, but since 552 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,840 then I was so self-conscious over it and I just could never, 553 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,120 you think you'd solved it and the next day you'd wake up and 554 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,200 there was something else. And so I got into hydrofacial 555 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,360 was actually quite young at like 16 because. 556 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,200 They it is a hydrofacial. So a hydrofacial for anyone 557 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,840 listening who's never had one, they sort of it's a deep cleanse 558 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,080 with the machine. It's a seven step or six step 559 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,040 machine and it's sort of exfoliates it, it extracts, it 560 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,920 hydrates. So it puts lots of hyaluronic 561 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,960 acid back in your skin. It's quite, very safe and not 562 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,600 using any serious active creams or ingredients so you can use 563 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,920 it, you know, I was 16 when I started and that sort of made me 564 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,200 very interested in my skin and what I was putting into it. 565 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,480 And then what happened was I when I first started made in 566 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,320 Chelsea, we did my first year, we did it on a way trip to Sri 567 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,600 Lanka and I got Melasma, which I didn't know what it was. 568 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,280 And I was 24 and I thought I'd had a spray tan before I went 569 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,880 and I thought they'd splattered it across my face because it was 570 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,200 sort of and like we were in Sri Lanka and it obviously come out 571 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,160 with the sun. So I'm scrapping it off. 572 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,160 I was what is this? I'd never had anything like that 573 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,560 before and of course I didn't know what it was So and I was 574 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,800 really bad with sun cream. So anyone listening, Please wear 575 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,160 sun cream. And it just got worse and worse 576 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,560 and worse. And so it's been a journey since 577 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,080 24. I'm now 29. 578 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,200 I've gone through loads of different things to try and get 579 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,720 my melasma because it's pretty. It never goes just to keep it at 580 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,240 Bay. And that's where it's really 581 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,360 come into play. And so are you super careful 582 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,640 with SPF every day? I wear a cap. 583 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,160 Even in the winter, if it's sunny and I'm walking about, I'm 584 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,440 so. That's you just being discreet, 585 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,880 hiding from the press, but talking about as an influencer 586 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,600 with over 1,000,000 followers on various channels, which is 587 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,720 incredible by the way. You must get showered with 588 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:31,920 clothes by brands wanting to reach your audience. 589 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,120 How do you handle that? I think when I first got sort of 590 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:43,560 into dip, my turn, I was like, this is amazing, but I there's 591 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,040 only six. Very lucky Fuzzy. 592 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,160 I must say. I'm in a really lucky. 593 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,160 I'm super grateful. I mean, it's so amazing that 594 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,000 anyone would ever want to send me their clothes. 595 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,520 I think there's definitely times you've got to pick who fuzzy the 596 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,480 ethics behind brands, whether you want to wear their clothes 597 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,520 and whether it is your style. Do brands approach you? 598 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,640 Or do you just open the door in the morning and there are just a 599 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,640 million parcels on your doorstep? 600 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,160 I must say, I don't actually often get gift gifted clothes. 601 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,760 I get gifted a lot of beauty products, which I'm not mad 602 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,800 about, but I also I give my wonderful PA is often at my 603 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,200 house boxing them up and we give them to charity because there is 604 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,480 a lot of stuff that, like you said, I haven't asked for or 605 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,560 agreed to and I don't know it's coming and it arrives at the 606 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,960 door and obviously you know I'm not going to. 607 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,760 So which charity would you give that? 608 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,960 To we give it to women's refugees. 609 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,280 Oh, how lovely. Yeah, which is really nice. 610 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,360 But we don't often get clothes, so maybe I'm doing something 611 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,120 wrong. If you had one particular brand 612 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,800 that you could be gifted, by which brand would that be? 613 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,720 This is really hard. I like Isabelle Moran. 614 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,320 Very cool, very cool. Fundamentally, who do you think 615 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,000 you dress for? Do you dress for yourself, 616 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,680 Jamie? Your audience. 617 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,040 I definitely don't dress for Jamie, but not in the sense. 618 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,600 When you're alert, Jamie. Yes, that is. 619 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,200 I just don't think he would notice. 620 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,080 Blast his soul like, I just don't. 621 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,760 He think he really, really honestly likes me in tracksuit 622 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,560 bottoms. Like he'd he's not a very glam 623 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,840 fashionist. Often when I wear clothes to a 624 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,640 red carpet, he'll be like, oh, what you wearing? 625 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,480 And I'm like, yes, please, please. 626 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,680 So I definitely dress. I think I dress for myself. 627 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,640 I mean, talking about red carpet, do you find the red 628 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,200 carpet dressing exciting or stressful? 629 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,640 I find it really exciting, but that is because I have a 630 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,440 stylist, so you know, I have guidance and help and she pulls 631 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,680 really cool brands and really cool outfits and I love her and 632 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,520 get on with her so well. And that's a stylist 633 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,240 specifically for red carpets or for life in general. 634 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,920 Just. For Rep events, yeah, no, I 635 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,760 don't get her on the day-to-day. When do you feel that you really 636 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,239 discovered your style DNA? I would say not not far, like 637 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,280 not that long ago. I think, like I said to you, 638 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,800 when I first I like being comfy and I think that was really 639 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,960 hard. I'd sort of and again it was the 640 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,280 colours. I always felt like I needed to 641 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,440 be wearing what everyone else was there and I'm just quite a 642 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,639 comfy every day. I would like to stay 643 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,000 understated. Not that now very well. 644 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,040 Last time it was that understated griping, but I would 645 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,199 like to say that that's sort of where I find myself feeling most 646 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,320 comfortable. And I'm drawn to those clothes. 647 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,400 So sort of timeless. I'm. 648 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,520 I mean, honestly, you're probably like, no, no. 649 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,240 No, not at all. But what would you reach for to 650 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,080 feel empowered? I love like a a really smart 651 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,920 suit two piece. And from where, which brand 652 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,080 would you? OK, and every day that like 653 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,280 reasonable price. I'm a massive fan of Mass MO 654 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,800 duty. Beautifully. 655 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,200 Cut really nice but I love the trousers there and it fits me 656 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:29,440 and it's it's not hugely expensive but it feels expensive 657 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,280 so I love their stuff. And Money no object. 658 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,200 Money. No. 659 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,080 Object. Oh my goodness, this is hard. 660 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,920 Hypothetical, hypothetical dresses. 661 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,520 You. I never know even. 662 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,600 Can I just say I have to. I have to tell this story. 663 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,680 I told my mum I was on your coming on your podcast and she 664 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,480 told me this story that she went to a wedding and the dress code 665 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,680 was for females. Amanda Wakeley dresses. 666 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,120 Oh my God, I said. It was the most incredible 667 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,600 wedding with this and the other and I can even do it. 668 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,120 I I am so flattered and I've never heard that story. 669 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,920 But that's just. Lovely, I have to tell you. 670 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,840 Oh. Thank you for sharing that. 671 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,600 Oh my God, I'd love to see the pictures from that wedding. 672 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,040 I know. I think my mom was like, to my 673 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,920 dad, I was. She was like, it was the best 674 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,600 excuse because she was like, I've got to get myself one. 675 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,920 And do you do you remember what she wore? 676 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,480 I don't think I was. There. 677 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,040 I think it was before my time or I might have been very young, 678 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,680 but I must get a photo and show you how many whole weddings do 679 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,560 everyone in your dress. Do you ever raid your mother's 680 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,840 wardrobe? I definitely did. 681 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,440 She lives in Portugal now, so it's quite that's harder. 682 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,600 It's hard, but I definitely did. My God, that was a constant 683 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,920 argument because I would just be wearing her clothes and probably 684 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,720 not treating them. Without asking. 685 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,120 That's a good one. That's a good one. 686 00:36:53,520 --> 00:37:00,120 If someone were to describe your style in three words, what would 687 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,240 you want those 3 words to be? Oh my goodness, that's really 688 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:07,160 hard without also sounding big headed. 689 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,800 No, but that's why I say someone else describing your style. 690 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,080 So I'm not saying to you, how would you describe your style in 691 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,240 your dreams? How would you like to be 692 00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:19,000 described? In my dream. 693 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:26,640 In your dream. In my dreams and chic and. 694 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,040 Relaxed love that in my dream, so it wasn't that hard. 695 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,520 It wasn't that. Do you think you've got a style 696 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,800 icon? Do I have a style icon? 697 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,040 I love Rosie Huntington, Whiteley's style, and I also 698 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,280 like Katie Bieber's style. Sometimes I think it's just not 699 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,280 what I would wear because she pulls it off so well, but I just 700 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,320 think she always looks really amazing. 701 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,000 But I think Rosie Huntington might be is very effortless. 702 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,840 Very beautiful. Now you lead a very busy life. 703 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,920 Is your wardrobe phenomenally organized? 704 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,120 It's not. It's really badly. 705 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,040 Sort of knew you were going to say that you're heading off on 706 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,520 tour with your podcast. So exciting, very exciting. 707 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,360 How are you going to plan your looks for that? 708 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:22,760 This is very exciting. I'm really excited about this 709 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,760 because I feel like I'm having a bit more fun. 710 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,640 I wanna have fun with it, so I don't know. 711 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,000 I'll have to have a think and and depending on weather as well 712 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,280 and comfort. And will you will you work with 713 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,640 your stylist on? That yeah, so work with her. 714 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,160 Mostly because I just she's, I mean she's amazing or she does 715 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,640 and the look she pulls up I always love, but I just get on 716 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,280 with her as well. So great to get her. 717 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,720 Good excuse, good excuse to hang out together. 718 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,160 Do you plan your looks at the beginning of a week? 719 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,680 If I have something big, I definitely will be thinking, 720 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,400 well, I like to see it like as I'm going to sleep, I'll think 721 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,240 about it. I couldn't go to This is why I'm 722 00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,880 upset about today, But I couldn't go to something and 723 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,440 have something come around and go to sleep not knowing what I'm 724 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,280 going to wear for that. But if I was just day-to-day, I 725 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,800 wouldn't be planning it. So what was planned for today? 726 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,040 No, because you have to see it. It was going to be chic. 727 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,160 It was going to be all camel, some white trousers like a 728 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,240 camel, cashmere jumper. Not there. 729 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,000 Oh, that sounds gorgeous. We can imagine it. 730 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:37,440 Anyhow, when you're unsure of a look, who do you trust for to 731 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,080 give an opinion on what you're wearing? 732 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,040 Would it be Jamie? No, it would be my best friend, 733 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,440 Melissa. He does Wednesdays with me and 734 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,880 she's she's brutal. So she'll be like, no, like she 735 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,360 really she rearranged. I had a different ring on my 736 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,960 engagement finger actually just because like I don't know why I 737 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,440 was trying to stack it and she was like, no, no, no, that does 738 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,440 not look. She. 739 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,360 So she I do ask her and we have very similar style. 740 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,640 Let's talk about travel. Do you pay particular attention 741 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,920 to what you're wearing to travel in your airport look? 742 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,680 I I don't like to go completely off the rails. 743 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,600 I like to be comfy, but this would be something I would 744 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:24,480 travel in same colour scheme but comfy and wide trousers, floaty 745 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,400 trousers always. You good Packer, bad Packer. 746 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,880 Terrible Packer. I'd never wear any of the 747 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,640 clothes I bring and I bring always colourful clothes and 748 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,600 then I end up just wearing the white the cream. 749 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,760 And so she the monotone girl. I know, I don't know why I do 750 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,640 it. What luggage do you use? 751 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,280 I use remember. Lovely. 752 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,600 Thank you. Lovely. 753 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,840 Does that help organize you? No, no, but it looks you. 754 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:54,320 It's actually Jamie's. So I mean, I don't. 755 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,440 Know. So if you're going for longer 756 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,960 than overnight, honestly how many bags do you pack? 757 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,800 It depends. Probably just one big one and a 758 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,120 little, but I Jamie's so I always shove half my stuff in 759 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:15,360 his as well as well, yeah. Now I talking about travel, I I 760 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,200 know you're a keen skier, is that right? 761 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,720 What are your go to ski wear brands? 762 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,920 Goldberg's Lovely. Is that how you pronounce it? 763 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,800 Yes. OK. 764 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,960 I love that stuff. Very expensive. 765 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:34,120 And I've recently, very kindly been given a wonderful jacket 766 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,840 from my Sunday ski. And it's green. 767 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,440 Oh my goodness, the green. That really is going green 768 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,840 Puffer and I'm feeling it, so I'm going to go for that. 769 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,480 That sounds super cool. Talking about travel. 770 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,160 Have you ever had any sort of luggage disasters? 771 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,040 Yep, Honeymoon Jamie lost his luggage. 772 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,760 Only on your honeymoon. I know, Can you believe it? 773 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,040 The the whole journey from start to finish was disastrous. 774 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,760 We got delayed in, we flew to answer and we were delayed 775 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,800 getting asked. We missed the connecting flight. 776 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,120 They then put us on another flight which then was delayed. 777 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,760 They flew us back to UK in the evening after 12 hours of being 778 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,160 there only to get a flight to somewhere. 779 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,000 I mean it was just disastrous. And then we land and Jane mine. 780 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,240 My luggage comes through and Jamie's didn't, so we were stuck 781 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:32,640 in Panama which was 46% humidity 46° and he had just his 782 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,480 tracksuit that he travelled. In and your bikinis and my 783 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,320 bikini which did. Not look good on there and we 784 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,760 were on an island and there was no place to get close so he was 785 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,240 stuck. Nothing. 786 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,280 No, there was nothing. No hotel boutique. 787 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,000 No, the staff gave them the staff, the uniform. 788 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,720 So he was wearing the uniform and he was very entertaining for 789 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:58,280 me, but I think he got quite fed up with it. 790 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,920 That was a real disaster. Oh my God. 791 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,000 But I had my staff. Do you, do you, have you ever 792 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,160 sort of taken lessons out of that and sort of done what most 793 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,760 sensible people I know is have a wheelie with the fundamentals in 794 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,320 it? I know, no I still there, but 795 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,800 everyone says also you should mix if you're part travelling 796 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,040 with a partner put half and half so if one oh I. 797 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,600 Know. But it all gets a bit 798 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,240 exhausting. And and then and then you've got 799 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,800 all your shoes in one bag. And if you're me and then it 800 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,440 just is, it can be an equal disaster, yeah? 801 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,560 I need lessons on packing, that's for sure. 802 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,200 Well, you're off on the road next year. 803 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,120 Yeah, that's going to be a situation. 804 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,840 Wardrobe secret What, if anything, do you feel you've got 805 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,040 an excessive amount of in your wardrobe? 806 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,400 Jeans. Particular brands. 807 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,360 Levi Oh, like kind of the vintage ones. 808 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:58,040 I get some of them off vintage shops, websites and they all fit 809 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,960 reasonably similar. They're all kind of highways 810 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,280 were not too high, waisted just above the hip and not too baggy 811 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,840 on the bum, but not tight on the legs. 812 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,720 Straight. Maybe they're straight jeans. 813 00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:12,880 And are you a one type of cut jeans girl or do you have 814 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,600 everything from skinnies to Uber wide legs to cargoes to? 815 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,880 I have everything. I have everything. 816 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,040 But I'm I'm not. I don't wear skinnies that much. 817 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,600 I've got a lot of them flared at the moment. 818 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,800 OK, so guilty secret. What is the most expensive item 819 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,760 of clothing that you've bought? I'm not asking for the price 820 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,520 tag, but what is that item? Oh, is it? 821 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,960 Can I say my wedding dress? Yeah, I think it'd be my wedding 822 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,840 dress. But that's beautiful. 823 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,640 Do you think? Do you see yourself ever wearing 824 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,960 that again? No, but I don't see myself like 825 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,720 changing it. You know how people caught it up 826 00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:56,000 And I wanted to say exactly how it is and maybe I don't think 827 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,960 I'll fit into it. Oh, stop it. 828 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,680 Stop. But when you're buying not a 829 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,320 wedding dress but something that is expensive, do you ever 830 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,800 justify it as pounds per wear coat? 831 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,760 And bags. Oh, my bag. 832 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,240 Probably. I've got bags. 833 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,560 Maybe there's. My bag or bags? 834 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,040 One bag. OK, guilty secret there. 835 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,920 Are we allowed to know what what bag that was? 836 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,920 Just this Chanel. Just the show. 837 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,880 What What is it? The. 838 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,560 The famous Oh not only what it's. 839 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,960 Called the 55. I think so. 840 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,040 Oh, how lovely. That sounds good, but I think I 841 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,760 justify that because that's an investment. 842 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:44,560 Would you ever buy, would you ever buy a piece like that from 843 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,880 a a second hand website of, you know, vintage website? 844 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,480 Yeah, I have some vintage bags actually. 845 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,960 I think it's called my Fitbit vintage, but without the eyes. 846 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,280 So spot like that and it's all vintage bags and I've got some 847 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,680 from there. And does that feel more 848 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,120 sustainable? It does. 849 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,720 And also they are a lot cheaper and it's really cool to They 850 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:11,080 look cool because they're not around now. 851 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,040 Yeah. Do you ever sell your clothes? 852 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:22,240 I don't sell my clothes, but I give a lot of my stuff away to 853 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,720 charity. But I think maybe it would be 854 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,880 something that I should do is maybe sell it and then use that 855 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,280 money and give that money to charity. 856 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,480 I know a lot of people do that because there are a little 857 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,880 things that at the moment my I've had a calling recently and 858 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,640 so there's not much that needs to go. 859 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,160 But there definitely was, you know, back in the day, lots of 860 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,760 fuss. And that would go to charity, 861 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,120 yeah. And any particular charity that 862 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,320 you like to support? I like to support my charity and 863 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,480 then sort of just any women's charities. 864 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,640 And any favorite vintage haunts? Do you buy your vintage online 865 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,520 or do you, I mean, you live up in in West London, let's put it 866 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,760 that way. There's lots of vintage around 867 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,040 there. Yes, there's one shop which I 868 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,880 get lots of vintage sunglasses from. 869 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,000 They're not very, very bright all the time. 870 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:18,280 My Lover's Lane, I think it's called, It's Just at the top of 871 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,080 Portobello and it's got great stuff, but vintage stuff isn't. 872 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,840 That sort of vintage stuff isn't that cheap, so I need to. 873 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,560 No, And but also with sunglasses, do you ever worry 874 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,960 about the lenses not actually being as good as they should be? 875 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,040 And I think I find that I definitely don't think they are. 876 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,960 I don't know if that is something, maybe they were. 877 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,440 I think it was just you know the the technology is very different 878 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,400 now. You know with some of these 879 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,440 modern lenses are just incredible in terms of they 880 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,600 don't scratch as much and the the UVA and the UVB protection 881 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,200 is much, much higher right now, right. 882 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,840 Let's move on to some quick fire questions. 883 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,160 What fashion advice would you give your 20 year old self? 884 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,200 Don't try and follow everyone else and just wear what you 885 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:14,080 really want to wear good. Which fashion trend would you 886 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,600 most like to see make a comeback? 887 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:25,160 Oh gosh, this is hard. Oh my God there. 888 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,320 I can't think of any. Don't worry, Skip. 889 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,320 What fashionable beauty trend would you consign to Room 101? 890 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,640 Broadicon scarce. Your last impulse buy. 891 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,640 My last impulse buy oh, some ski ski gloves that I do not need. 892 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,920 Views on tattoos. My husband's covered in them, 893 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,280 so. And personal views in terms of 894 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,080 your own. Not not. 895 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:57,640 I think they're really cool. It's always a debate on my mind, 896 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,840 but I don't think I'll ever get one. 897 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,240 Beauty treatment. You couldn't give up. 898 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,760 Beauty treatment couldn't. Give up, Gwasha. 899 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,880 What is Gwasha? The the the little tool, the 900 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,240 facial machine like tool that you rub across your face and 901 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:15,120 lymphatic drainage. Looking at your skin, I think 902 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,560 it's time to buy one. High end or High Street, High 903 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,760 end? Bling or bear bling. 904 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,640 Minimalism or maximalism? Minimalism. 905 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,840 Couture or charity shop? Charity shop. 906 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,840 Crocs cute or puke? Puke sneakers or stilettos? 907 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,720 Sneakers. Skinnies, Boyfriends or wide 908 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:40,280 legs? Boyfriends. 909 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,680 Bodycon or boho Boho. Sports Lux or Rock chick? 910 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,440 Sports. Lux experimental unit or 911 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,720 uniform? Bit of both, can I say that? 912 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,920 You could say that cashmere or cotton. 913 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,160 Cashmere. Shapewear or sexy lingerie? 914 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,760 Shapewear. No, not your age, please. 915 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,520 And your body. I love Spanx. 916 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,560 Tights or stockings or hold UPS, Tights, bikini or one piece. 917 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,840 Bikini. Beanie or Berry? 918 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,080 Beanie. And finally, at the end of the 919 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,400 day, what do you or don't you wear in bed? 920 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,680 I don't wear pyjama bottoms. Is that what you're asking? 921 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,960 Can we revisit that? What do you or don't you wear? 922 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:37,240 Oh, I do wear a big T-shirt to sleep in And a pants. 923 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,480 Sophie, what a blast. It's been great fun chatting to 924 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,800 you. All things style related today. 925 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,440 Thank you so much for having me. I've absolutely loved. 926 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,200 It What fun. Thank you.