1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Today I'm going on a style journey with British jewelry 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:11,120 designer, founder of both Links of London and Anushka, the 3 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:14,560 creative director and entrepreneur Anushka Dukas Mve. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,120 Hello and welcome Anushka OH. Thank you, so lovely to be here. 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,080 Oh, it's lovely to have you here. 6 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:27,960 And I've always been fascinated by the mystique of diamonds, as 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,920 English women are. Probably men are too. 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,680 And I would love to ask you as a as a jewelry designer this 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:43,200 controversy between man made, lab made and the real thing. 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,320 Well, I'm a real, maybe bit old fashioned, but I am a real 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,360 believer in the real thing. And The thing is there are so 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,840 many diamonds in the world, if we never mine another diamonds, 13 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,440 we'll still have diamonds in the world. 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,520 So I can't understand why we need to fabricate diamonds. 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,640 I don't understand it. And also so many people rely on 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,880 on that, on income from the diamond industry and all the all 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,000 the things that go with it. So for me it's it's there's no 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,560 choice. It's it's, you know, it's 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,000 something from nature. So you know when you create a 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,120 diamond in the lab, it's going to be the same every single 21 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,760 time. Whereas I think what's 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,960 absolutely so fascinating about stones is that each stone has 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,600 its own characteristics. It's all you know one is 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,280 slightly different from the other and that's the joy of 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,320 jewelry for for me as having not trained as a gemologist. 26 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:40,280 So I don't look at it with the with the that kind of eye. 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,720 Now that you mentioned one thing that that I'm also fascinated 28 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,400 by. There are so many stones in the 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:54,120 world 'cause you hear, you hear rumours of mountains of diamonds 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,640 in Russia and Romania. What? 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,680 What's the story there? Is that the the market trying to 32 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,040 control prices? I do, you know, I don't know. 33 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,800 I mean I think, I think they genuinely are discovering as 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,360 technology gets better and I think they are discovering new 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,560 new deposits all the time. But what's really for me it's 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,160 much more exciting is all the semi precious stones and new 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,600 stones that no one's ever heard of, can't even pronounce. 38 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:26,800 So quite often when you know one of the guys that comes in and 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,320 sees me in to to sell me stones, he comes looking at the builder 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,000 with this kind of tool kit and stuff and he'll say we've got to 41 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,400 have a look at this and it might be something I've literally 42 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,880 never heard of, just fascinating colors and different color 43 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,720 variations. And you know it's just so 44 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,720 interesting to learn from somebody who will go straight to 45 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,320 the mines to understand where they've come from and also to 46 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,040 really get a feel for who mind them. 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,600 So increasingly I really try to buy stones of where I know 48 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,640 they've come from. You can't always do that. 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,680 Jewelry industry is notoriously muddy. 50 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:12,960 I'd say yes, but you know, I try as as I as best I can to know 51 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,960 where they've come from. So you buy diamonds that have 52 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,680 been through the Kimberley Process, yes, which is totally 53 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,200 ethical. Totally ethical. 54 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,680 And so we we know where they've come from. 55 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,520 We know they haven't been dug up by children, et cetera, et 56 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,360 cetera. And where I possibly can, I 57 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,080 really like to buy diamonds that have come out of something else 58 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,040 or have some. It's come from melted down 59 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,520 jewelry or you know, but the way that you buy diamonds is they 60 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,280 come in a packet, I'm sure you know this, but they come in a 61 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,280 packet. And so you you can't absolutely 62 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,760 identify that the whole packet has come because they're graded 63 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,640 in size, has come from melted down jewelry or etcetera. 64 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,200 So it'll be a real mix which is kind of slightly why I'm going 65 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,600 back to, I don't see the reason to be using lab grain diamonds 66 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,520 because that's part of the the joy is that you kind of you that 67 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,040 they've been used before. Because I always think of you as 68 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,600 doing these beautiful colored stones and clever settings and 69 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,200 the charms and and all of that. Are there particular areas in 70 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,560 the world that are really good for these colored semi precious 71 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,960 stones? I think there are a lot. 72 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,600 There are so many areas in the world. 73 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,680 I mean, you know, Sri Lanka, Brazil. 74 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:34,000 I mean, I, you know, I go to not recently actually, but you know, 75 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Ethiopia's got amazing, interesting deposits, whether 76 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:43,360 they are opals or they found emeralds there now and there 77 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,880 are, there are so many places, you know, the Philippines. 78 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,000 I'm so lucky 'cause I choose to go on holiday where I think 79 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,320 there might be interesting stones. 80 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,280 That's. That's really interesting. 81 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,040 Have you? I know you're an inveterate 82 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,600 traveller. Have you ever visited any of the 83 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,520 mines? I haven't. 84 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:04,760 I have in Ethiopia and then in the Philippines. 85 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,600 I went to. I went to the the Pearl farm, 86 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,240 which is kind of fascinating. I knew nothing about. 87 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,680 I knew nothing about pearls actually and this amazing. 88 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:20,080 Well, I just got a call from a Filipino lady a few years ago 89 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,320 said I'd like to come and show you golden pearls. 90 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,960 And I said really that interested in pearls. 91 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,800 But why the very fact that she was a Filipino. 92 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,880 I was like, OK, well come and see me. 93 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,040 And the reason for that is because I everything we made at 94 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,640 links of London was made in the Philippines. 95 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,880 So I felt very, I feel very grateful to that country. 96 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,960 Anyway, she came to see me and she said she explained to me 97 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,800 that pearls are normally sold in by the bucket load at auction. 98 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,480 Bucket. Buckets. 99 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Buckets. Giant buckets. 100 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,800 And all graded and the same size or are you buying? 101 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,880 I think you you'll buy a grade but then you got to sort it from 102 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:02,840 the bucket. Wow. 103 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,440 But the point being is that the Pearl farmer, the original Pearl 104 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,280 farmer, will get nought point nought nought percent of the 105 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:15,360 bucket load. So I went back to the 106 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,840 Philippines and it so these golden pearls where I went to 107 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:22,640 look at come from a little island called the Ilu Ilu and 108 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,840 and they'd had a terrible typhoon or hurricane and so 109 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:30,680 they'd wiped out all the kind of all the infrastructure for the 110 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,320 Pearl farmers. But you know, going there was so 111 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,120 fascinating because I literally didn't know that a golden Pearl 112 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,480 is grown. It takes between three and four 113 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,560 years in the oyster. It they they put the oyster down 114 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,120 and they have to take it up every month to scrub every 115 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,800 single oyster to stop contamination. 116 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,760 So when you learn that and you meet the farmer who's scrubbing 117 00:06:54,760 --> 00:07:00,280 it, you know that's suddenly just it's a, it's a it's a whole 118 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:03,640 eye opener. And so for me, the kind of 119 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,400 result of that was, OK, so the problem is that most people 120 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,440 exactly as you said, want to buy pearls in a perfect row. 121 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,240 They've got to be graded, graduated, and that could take 122 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,840 years and years. But for the Pearl farmer, you 123 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,040 know, he might only have, I don't know, 50% of what they, 124 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:28,200 what they call AAA pearls and but so he can't sell the others. 125 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:34,600 So why I the way I approach Jury is I will buy all the pearls 126 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:40,240 that I can but I'll design the the setting so that I'm able to 127 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,560 use all the different shapes so it's much more forgiving on the 128 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:50,000 Pearl, if that makes sense and though so yeah it's a it's a 129 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:56,120 fascinating and B it means I can use pieces, you know stones or 130 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,240 or stones that other people might not. 131 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,880 And a golden Pearl is it golden? Yes. 132 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,520 Only question, but. And I tell you what's so 133 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,520 interesting, It's not a silly question, because the way you 134 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,960 can tell the color of a Pearl is if you just prize the oyster 135 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,960 open just slightly, the rim of the oyster will dictate what the 136 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,040 color of the Pearl is. God, how beautiful. 137 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,840 But I mean, actually would make a lovely documentary, wouldn't 138 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,440 it? I did a little film. 139 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,480 Did you did a film? It's on my website. 140 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,320 Now you are a woman designing for women. 141 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,919 Are you conscious of the fact that a lot of your customers are 142 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:39,679 women buying for themselves? Gosh, you know I never expected 143 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,919 this, but 8085% of my clients are women buying for themselves. 144 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,360 That's lovely, it's. But you didn't expect that when 145 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,880 you founded Anushka? I wanted it to be the vast 146 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,760 majority, but I didn't expect it to be quite that high. 147 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,480 I'm absolutely thrilled by it, I think absolutely fantastic. 148 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:04,240 Because I the thing I love about Anushka is that, yes, it's very 149 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,840 luxury, but there's also, I think you're very clever and 150 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,920 mindful of the end cost. So I think you you know, it's 151 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:19,120 like you use 14 karat gold. Did you say rather than? 152 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Those those chains that you've got on they they they are 14 153 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,040 karat but that's that's that's about price but also 154 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,320 predominantly about whether how hard wearing it may be etcetera. 155 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,960 But I think it's different. If you're a woman design, it 156 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,480 sounds so obvious, but if you're a woman designing for women 157 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,760 wearing jewelry, it's a bit like you, you know, you understand 158 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,800 how clothes should fall, how they feel, how they make you 159 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,160 feel, etcetera. But I think not everybody 160 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,640 understands, you know. For example, I only pierced my 161 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,000 ears like 7 years ago or. Something I find that 162 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,240 extraordinary? The jewelry designer who's late 163 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:03,880 to the ear piercing process. But despite the fact I've done 164 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,480 that, you know, I am super conscious I think as a result of 165 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,800 not having had pierced is of the weight of an earring of the fact 166 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,120 that it needs to move. It needs to, you know, it needs 167 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,200 to be playful because actually one if you think about it, once 168 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,840 you've got an earring on, you've forgotten what you've got on 169 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,160 your ears unlike rings, bracelets. 170 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,440 So it's really important, it's super comfortable. 171 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,320 You're not constantly thinking, God, I can't wait to get this 172 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,200 off, you know, so, so those are some of the some of the 173 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,720 considerations, I think. So would you say you you design 174 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:43,040 First off with yourself in mind? What would I really love to 175 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,520 wear? Yeah, always. 176 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,560 Sadly. Well, not sadly actually, 177 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:49,240 because I yeah, that is how I designed. 178 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,120 And also, if I wouldn't wear it, I won't make it. 179 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,200 Yeah, then it shouldn't be in the collection, shouldn't be in 180 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,640 the collection. I I've always said that now you 181 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:06,560 are self-taught and you're in an industry full of gemologists. 182 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:11,520 Yeah, Any imposter syndrome ever because of that. 183 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:17,800 'Cause I so, so I often get asked this question and yes, 184 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,840 yes, total imposter syndrome on one level. 185 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:27,080 So if you'd asked me five years ago, no, maybe seven years ago, 186 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,600 and I'd never met you before what I did, I would. 187 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,960 My answer probably would have been I have a jewelry business. 188 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,000 I wouldn't have said I'm a jewelry designer. 189 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,240 And I think that despite the fact that I, I absolutely 190 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:48,120 design, you know, with with my tiny little team, I design all 191 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,920 the pieces. But I think that came from not 192 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,640 not having trained. I can't draw. 193 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,080 If you could see my sketches, they are worse than shopping. 194 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:01,400 And I think it was just that. I think it's literally just that 195 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,720 that therefore I I can't call myself a designer because I 196 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,480 can't actually physically kind of draw it. 197 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,320 So I think there's imposter syndrome on that from from that 198 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:17,120 perspective. Well, you've done very well on 199 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,200 that. And sort of moving forward, any 200 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,520 really exciting projects up your sleeve that you can share? 201 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,240 Not that I can share. Got lots of very exciting 202 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,800 projects for next year, but I'm not quite ready to share yet. 203 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,320 Collaborations. Yes, collaboration and actually 204 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,840 one we, I did a collaboration a few years ago with the Vampire's 205 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,640 wife with Susie Cave and so we are going to extend that. 206 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,840 So we're going to make that into a really lovely collection of 207 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,800 earrings. Oh, how fantastic but. 208 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,240 It's not done yet. And did that come about because 209 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,600 you were friends? Yeah. 210 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,000 Friends and Susie lives in Brighton and we live, you know, 211 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,560 just along the coast. So yes, it came about from that. 212 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,640 It was a fun project. We literally did it at the 213 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,520 kitchen table and you know, it it it was just a really fun 214 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,200 thing to do. But I often think those those 215 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,880 lovely sort of. I don't want to call them 216 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:20,680 effortless ideas because no idea is comes without sort of a lot 217 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:23,120 of inspiration. But but I think when? 218 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:29,640 When creativity moves in a fluid way, you come up with some 219 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,280 magic. It's you're it's you're so 220 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,640 right. It's also really interesting 221 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,600 kind of it's a it's a interesting thing to do because 222 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:44,120 you're quite aware of the other person and their, you know, 223 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,640 their approach. So you know you always do it 224 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,080 this way and then suddenly somebody comes from the other 225 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,400 side from fashion perhaps and Suzie's case where she doesn't 226 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,720 understand that that whatever the the complications are and I 227 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,080 don't understand this, it's just a really fascinating. 228 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,920 Because jewelry is by its very nature, it's, it's so hard. 229 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,560 There's nothing that flows other than chains, I suppose, but 230 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:14,320 nothing flows around the body like a dress does. 231 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,720 It's really, it's a very different dynamic, very 232 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,160 different. So today we're going on a style 233 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,520 journey. I'm going to kick off by saying 234 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,400 how did you decide what you were wearing here today? 235 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,360 Oh God today. How do I? 236 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,200 Well I love colour. I really love colours so I you 237 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,440 you know I love that in my jewelry and I love that in in 238 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,960 clothes. I Green's one of my favorite 239 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,080 colours and I think the jewelry looks good on. 240 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,400 Green. Is it because you've got green 241 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,680 eyes, do you think? No, I do. 242 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,840 I just love green. But gold does look beautiful. 243 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,680 Yes, in green on it. Yeah, but weirdly, I don't wear 244 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,880 a lot of green jewellery. Weirdly, but I love green 245 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,240 clothes. As a foil. 246 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,360 Yeah, you wear a lot of green. Don't. 247 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,720 You I I love. I'm a khaki girl. 248 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,680 Yeah, you. Yeah. 249 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,200 I think it's a blonde thing, isn't? 250 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,040 It. But maybe it is. 251 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,280 I don't know. I know I love. 252 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,520 I love green. And I increasingly I don't wear 253 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,760 black too close to my skin. You look great. 254 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,080 I figure I'm wearing a lot. Of Yeah. 255 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,640 Yeah. No, I. 256 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,440 Get a lot of blonde, yeah, but so green. 257 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,760 Roll neck jacket by. Jacket by. 258 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,880 Testing you there, no. I'll tell you in a minute. 259 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,840 I've got to remember. Look it up. 260 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,680 I'll have to look it up. Can't remember but cheap and 261 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,520 cheerful. But how? 262 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,040 How do you put your look together in the morning? 263 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Well, I like it to be a simple, I mean in in a perfect world I 264 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,800 like to wear a dress or a jumpsuit every day because then 265 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,120 there are no decisions. So I do like that, but I but 266 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:58,160 actually I wear lots, lots of trousers and very, very simple. 267 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:04,040 And I I've learnt recently very as I say, I love colour and I 268 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,400 used to really gravitate to pattern, but that doesn't do 269 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,440 much with my jewelry, so I so I've had to kind of reign that 270 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,520 back a bit. The most important thing is I 271 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:21,720 want to feel totally comfortable but very pulled together. 272 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,440 I think it's so much about confidence and how you feel. 273 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,160 Yeah. Would you say you were exposed 274 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,920 to fashion at a young age? Oh gosh, my mother had a kind of 275 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,960 interesting fashion sense. Because was she Russian? 276 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,640 Yes, she was Russian. Yeah, she was Russian. 277 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,960 You know when you're growing up you're you're you're fiercely 278 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,720 conscious of what all your friends think and. 279 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,520 Because you're an only. Is that right? 280 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:50,600 Yes. Child, yeah. 281 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,280 And my mother used to be. She's to come to school. 282 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,280 I mean in the most outrageous gear. 283 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,800 And everybody else was wearing in a twin set in pearls and 284 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,040 tweed. A mum would arrive with pink 285 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,400 dyed hair, A kind of poncho with feathers all over. 286 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,440 I mean, you just wanted to die. Are we talking 70s? 287 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:15,400 And we're talking late 70s, Yeah. 288 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,200 Yes. Yeah. 289 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,680 Anyway, it was really bad and you could see people in the 290 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,280 corridor going, I can see that woman. 291 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,040 Knows and Did your mother allow you to make your own style 292 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:30,480 choices, or were you encouraged to have pink hair and a poncho? 293 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,040 No, no, she she no, she didn't make me have pink hair and a 294 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,120 poncho. But she did get me in some 295 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:42,000 really shocking outfits. I mean, Laura Ashley, but I 296 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,800 mean, I've frilly collar. You're all probably good now, 297 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,800 but. It was the era. 298 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,200 I know, but I felt like I was a real tomboy. 299 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:56,000 So, so that's my next question is what was your earliest 300 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,480 sartorial memory, your style memory that you realized the 301 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,560 impact of clothes either in a good way or a bad way. 302 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,840 I figure it might might be a bad way. 303 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:13,080 Well that was the 1st way I was this apricot frilly shirt that. 304 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,800 Anyway, that was a really bad way. 305 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,440 So very. That your mother had chosen. 306 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,360 For you, Yeah, we went to Dore, Ashley together and she said, oh 307 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:23,160 darn, you got to wear this, you know? 308 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:29,480 Anyway, I remember absolutely not wanting to wear that, but I 309 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,880 think what this is kind of a weird answer to your question. 310 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:39,160 But I think my very first real memory of of how important 311 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,480 clothes, shoes, etcetera is, I was taken, I worked for my 312 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,640 godfather was Mark Burley and very early on it was my first 313 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,320 job actually. I worked for him as his PA and 314 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,080 and he obviously didn't think much of my shoes or whatever 315 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,600 else I was wearing. So he said. 316 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,520 Darling, I'm going to take you to this funny new little shoe 317 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,040 shop that's just opened in old church St. 318 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,000 Manolo Blahnik. Lucky girl. 319 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,440 I didn't know that at the time. And they were. 320 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,640 And they bought ME3 pairs of Manolo Blahniks. 321 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,640 Good godfather. Yeah, good godfather. 322 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,280 But I don't think I'd appreciate it. 323 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,800 At the time I just thought, these are just bloody 324 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,760 uncomfortable because at the time I haven't got the most 325 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,800 beautiful feet. But anyway, he insisted I had to 326 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,720 wear these to work every day and it would make me feel, you know, 327 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,040 So that was my that was my, my most vivid memory. 328 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,440 And did those Manolos make you feel grown up and empowered? 329 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,600 Yes, I think they definitely did. 330 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,640 Could you describe them to me? Yeah, I could just, I could 331 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,400 certainly describe. The same in different colours 332 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,560 or? No one was Navy blue. 333 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,520 Kind of. I don't know what you call that 334 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,400 kind of kitten. Manolo heel, I guess quite 335 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:07,320 pointed lizard strip in the middle and just to kind of 336 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,000 rather beautiful Manolo court shoe, but not a traditional 337 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:17,760 looking court shoe. The other one was tan, kind of 338 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:23,320 kind of dark tan. And it had kind of red, like a 339 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,200 red ribbon going through it. Same kind of heel. 340 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,040 He was very keen on the heel thing, which I think was, which 341 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,040 is why I think he didn't. That's why he took me, because I 342 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,000 think I've never been gravitated to heels where you can see I 343 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,720 don't gravitate to them. Now I know I can't remember what 344 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,520 the third one was actually. But did Mark? 345 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,280 Read I think it might have been red. 346 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,400 And did Mark have quite an input into which shoes he was going to 347 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,360 buy? Oh. 100%, he said. 348 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,080 I want to see that one, that one and that one. 349 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,560 Oh yeah, no, no, it wasn't. And also I was, I I guess I was 350 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:05,400 17/18/18. I must have been 18. 351 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,720 So I wasn't really going to argue. 352 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,000 I was like, yeah, whatever. And that, you know, style. 353 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,840 I mean, of all the people in the world talk about style, he was, 354 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,440 you know? Mark Burnley just had it, yeah, 355 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,120 exuding out of every pour, didn't he? 356 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:24,600 And actually on the shoe thing, so I I remember going into his 357 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,320 dressing room. I mean, you would love it. 358 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:34,680 It was just blue shirts, all in absolute, you know, descending 359 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,440 order, you know, different kind of white green, I mean, all 360 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:45,400 absolutely lined up, Immaculate. And he had this collection of 361 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,360 shoes that you just die for. And he was so vain. 362 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,800 He used to wear his shoes one size 2 small. 363 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,560 He did. Wow, that's painful, I thought 364 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,800 it thought it was only us girls suffered for heels. 365 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:09,120 Oh my goodness, did he have an impact on the rest of your style 366 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:12,520 choices, or was it particularly your shoes that he was? 367 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,600 I think he thought if he started with the shoes it would it would 368 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,280 kind of sort itself sort itself out. 369 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,160 So I don't remember him being particularly. 370 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,240 No, I don't. I no, I don't think so. 371 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,600 I think. I But I do think there's 372 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,440 something in this if you've got one beautiful thing on, whether 373 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,560 it's really beautiful jewelry or really great shoes or a 374 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,240 fantastic jacket, the rest, it does elevate the rest. 375 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,400 Yes, it absolutely does. Yeah. 376 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,200 Were you interested in jewelry from an early age? 377 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,800 No, and absolutely. I mean, actually that's not 378 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,840 true. My mother had a jewelry, 379 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:57,640 extraordinary jewelry box, not brimming with precious expensive 380 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,880 jewels because she, you know, oh, it's stuff she'd bought at a 381 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,600 market or things that she bought on her travels. 382 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,720 Really eclectic. Which might speak a bit to the 383 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,000 way I design, actually. So I used to really play with 384 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,440 that when I was little and try things on and things. 385 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,320 But I I don't remember. I I certainly never thought I 386 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,280 wanted to design jewelry as my career. 387 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:23,120 And when she died, you obviously inherited her jewelry. 388 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,840 Do you ever go back into her jewelry box and sort of look for 389 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,760 inspiration there? A lot, all the time. 390 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,240 How interesting. Yeah, I note it all the time. 391 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,440 And it's so interesting, isn't it, how you know, very few ideas 392 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:43,760 are truly original and you know, there might be something that 393 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,480 reworked originals. Yeah, reworked. 394 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,760 Or different interpretation or scale, different scale, 395 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,520 different. So yes, I I go to it a lot 396 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,240 actually and and it's interesting every time you go to 397 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,720 it you see something different you you have a different 398 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,680 perspective on on what's in there. 399 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,600 Yeah, how lovely. Do you keep it in its original? 400 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Yes. Jewelry box? 401 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,680 Lovely. Being in the design world for so 402 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,200 many years, have you ever felt that that being stylish was a 403 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,560 burden? Was was sort of important an 404 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,240 important part of who you are? Yes, I think. 405 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,840 I think. I do think it's the important 406 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,160 part of who of who you are, how you present yourself and most 407 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,480 importantly about it's about the confidence thing. 408 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,560 Because until, I don't know if men feel like this, but I think 409 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,760 as a woman you don't really feel dressed until you've until you 410 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,280 feel like it's pulled together and then you're kind of ready to 411 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,960 face the day. And you asked me earlier about 412 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,320 what, you know, how I decide to get dressed in the morning. 413 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,040 Everything I own is very unfussy. 414 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,200 So I will never be wearing something that I've got to kind 415 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,360 of keep adjusting the bow or got to. 416 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,840 I don't know. I just want it to be on over and 417 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:12,040 not worry about it anymore. When do you feel you really 418 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,560 acquired your fashion mojo? God, I think I probably still 419 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:23,200 working on it. I think it's probably more 420 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,400 recent. Yeah, it's interesting how the 421 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:33,400 the more I talk to women about this, the later it can be. 422 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,360 But do you think that's because you kind of bit more confident 423 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,360 in yourself? Yes, I do. 424 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:45,720 And I think you, you turn inwards to a degree and you just 425 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,920 say what works for me. And I and I love that when when 426 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,160 people ask advice, I just say, OK, start with how you're 427 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,560 feeling and then picture yourself in this event or that 428 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,840 event or walking down the aisle. How do you want to feel when 429 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,200 you're walking down the aisle or walking into that boardroom and 430 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,080 and take it from there? Yeah. 431 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,960 Yeah, talk about boardrooms. You and your husband John Famous 432 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,800 famously created the jewellery brand Links of London in 1990, 433 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,200 same year as Amanda Wakeley. I remember coming to your very 434 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,800 first shop on the Fulham Rd. And then you sold it in 2006. 435 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,840 Do you think your style changed dramatically then? 436 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,840 Because you'd done a great deal? Bravo. 437 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:40,560 When you know you weren't flat working flat out anymore, you're 438 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,920 probably spending more time with the kids, school gates, all of 439 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,080 that. Do you remember consciously 440 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:53,960 changing your dress sense? No, I don't because I I've 441 00:26:53,960 --> 00:27:01,840 always been kind of smart casual I guess in yeah, I I I in my 442 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,120 approach. So I don't, I think it's less 443 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:09,040 about that and more about, as we just said, you know, more about 444 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,120 feeling more confident about what my style is, what I'm 445 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:16,120 comfortable because I absolutely know if I try something on, it's 446 00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:17,560 like, Oh yes, this feels at home. 447 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,880 And I and the other thing might really, if not feel like home 448 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,840 despite the fact it had a lot of hanger appeal. 449 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,440 Does that answer the? Question. 450 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,040 It does. It does. 451 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,840 Going on to to jewelry or you know you're a famous jewelry 452 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:41,720 designer, how, how do you feel about the mega brands now 453 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,200 muscling in on your your territory, I guess with monster 454 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,920 advertising budgets and even bigger price tags. 455 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,880 How does that how does that feel to you? 456 00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:00,320 Yeah, I mean it it's it's a difficult one because in one 457 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,600 way, you know, when we started in 2009, there was very, the 458 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,320 landscape was very, very different as you quite rightly 459 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,080 say. You know, there was very little 460 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:17,200 between links of London Silva, Cartier and the high Jewelers 461 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,400 where you where you really needed to spend, you know, 462 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,160 probably 6 figures to do something to get something that 463 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,080 wasn't what I deem is corporate jewelry. 464 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,360 So there was very little in between. 465 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,360 My goodness, the landscapes changed. 466 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,400 But it's frustrating in one way, but in another way it's for 467 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:45,120 those for those women that don't want to wear identifiable 468 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,120 pieces, albeit they may be more affordable than some of the 469 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,440 higher pieces that those those brands do. 470 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,760 I think in a way it's given them permission to buy more of their 471 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,200 own jewelry, but quite a lot of those women don't want to, they 472 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,200 want to wear something that's much more personal that means 473 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,960 much more to them and is is kind of designed in, do you know it 474 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,080 could be one or it could be very small quantities, but so I think 475 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,600 you know we can't compete. I mean there's no question about 476 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,400 that. There's no, there's no 477 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,320 competition in terms of marketing spend etcetera, 478 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,280 etcetera. But you you created this 479 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,680 beautiful concept, I have to say, which I been lucky enough 480 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,520 to go on the journey of my life in Seven Charms, whereby you 481 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,840 make custom pieces for customers who are inspired by different 482 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,880 moment, moments or chapters in their life. 483 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,080 How? How did that idea come about? 484 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,120 Do you know the really honest answers are absolutely loved as 485 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,960 a tile and discs and I thought as I was listening to it, I was 486 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,800 thinking I could so do this in jewelry because music's one 487 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,520 thing but jewelry is something that will be here forever and 488 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,440 will, you know, I really feel that jewelry is all about the 489 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,520 moment, what it means to you, why you got it on that 490 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,680 particular for that particular you know date or whatever memory 491 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,920 it encompasses. So, so I was that's that's kind 492 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,920 of how it happened. I just thought I could make a 493 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:28,240 piece of jewelry for each stage in in people's lives and and it 494 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,200 will be here forever and you've probably seen that little 495 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,840 scrapbook that comes with. It which is beautiful. 496 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,680 And so, you know, for each Commission will make the 497 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,920 scrapbook and it's a true 18 karat gold autobiography of 498 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,880 somebody's life. And so for me, that's just 499 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,880 there's something really special about that which will last 500 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,080 forever. Talking about chapters in Your 501 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,480 Life, in 2013 you were awarded an MBE. 502 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,120 Congratulations. What did you wear to the palace? 503 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,760 I wore a Roxander dress. Describe it to me. 504 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,640 Green, funny enough. Funny that. 505 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,560 Yeah, green. Very. 506 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:16,120 Just completely plain. And I had a what I had. 507 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:22,400 I had a hat that was made by a friend of mine, Vivian Sheriff. 508 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,600 Oh, yes. And she made the hat, and I had 509 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,400 some fabulous earrings and off I went. 510 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,920 Fundamentally, who do you think you dressed for? 511 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,400 Yourself, Your husband? The event. 512 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,200 Myself, definitely myself. Because if I, you know, I keep 513 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,160 saying that. But if I if I don't feel 514 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,160 comfortable, I'm going to be miserable all day or all night. 515 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,240 Would you say you message through your clothes at all? 516 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,040 Probably, but subconsciously, I don't think I set out to do 517 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,120 that. I think I just set out to feel 518 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,400 really comfortable and kind of secure in my own clothes, if you 519 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,520 like. Does your weight or perception 520 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,360 of your body affect the choice of what you wear? 521 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,960 Definitely. 100% And we don't, we all go do our little 522 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,320 fattenest is my bum fattenest. Who do you, who do you really 523 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,560 trust their opinion in terms of what you're wearing? 524 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,600 So I have I I have a friend of mine who's a stylist actually, 525 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,240 who called Sarah Price. I'll. 526 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,640 I'll ask her. Sometimes she'll help me. 527 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,480 And does she go shopping with you or do you? 528 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,360 Sometimes, no. Sometimes she'll go shopping 529 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,760 with me and or she'll, or I mean more importantly, actually 530 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,440 she'll buy me or she'll pull things for me which I would look 531 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,920 at and go Sarah, I am never gonna wear that. 532 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,200 Yeah, but she's really clever. And what's been really 533 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,080 interesting about that particular journey has been 534 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,840 that, you know, I I don't, I don't, I mean, I I might say 535 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,600 once a year, something like that, but I look back at the 536 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,680 clothes that we've bought together and all of them are 537 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,680 relevant now. All of them. 538 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,720 That's that's a real tick in the box. 539 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,880 It's a real tick in the box. She does. 540 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,960 She'll just say you. The shapes change. 541 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,840 You've got to wear that with white trousers, not skinny 542 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,800 trousers or whatever. It's really interesting. 543 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,440 And would you say she ever takes you out of your comfort zone or 544 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,840 often and and in a positive? Way. 545 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,680 Yeah. I'll, I'll, I'll look at 546 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,440 something and I'll go, I'm just not going to wear that and 547 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,440 she'll go on try it on. And I'm like, yeah, actually. 548 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,800 And then you see her a month later and you're living in it. 549 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,520 Yeah, I'll send her a text going like, oh, this has just changed 550 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,880 my life. What would you say you reach for 551 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,320 when you want to feel empowered? Well, I think my jewelry, I 552 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,640 definitely do. I think, you know, whatever, 553 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,520 whatever you're wearing and a really good pair of earrings is 554 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,280 great, a really good, you know, one thing here, you know you've 555 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,960 got really simple clothes on, but that just, it just looks 556 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,639 great and that. Just it transforms, it doesn't. 557 00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,679 It well, as you said it, it transforms or it just elevates, 558 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:24,360 or it just makes you feel good. Would you consider you have a 559 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,639 style icon? I knew you were going to ask me 560 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:32,560 this. And it is one of the regulars. 561 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,760 Absolutely. I I've really thought about it 562 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,440 and I think somebody like Talitha Getty. 563 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,000 Wow. So I think she's super elegant, 564 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,920 kind of pretty timeless, bit bohemian, and she doesn't have, 565 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,600 it's not a kind of, you know, because you want to say Audrey 566 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,400 Hepburn, but I wish, you know? Yes, but you're not Audrey 567 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,720 Hepburn. But you know, yeah, I think she 568 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:04,440 was just super stylish actually. And so yeah. 569 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,320 And had that Eclectus. Very eclectic. 570 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,920 And if you look at my wardrobe, it's pretty eclectic. 571 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,480 So yeah, I think Talitha Getty. Lovely, lovely. 572 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:22,120 If I were to ask someone to sum up your style in three words, 573 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:28,720 your style DNA, what 3 words would you want that person to 574 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:34,720 say Anoushka's style is? Well, I'd like to say style if 575 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:45,040 that'd be helpful, I'd like to say, I mean it depends how they 576 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,840 use the word eclectic because that could be, it could be like 577 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,920 that's that she's got absolutely no clue it all. 578 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,560 Works, but I would use that word eclectic for you and I think and 579 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,240 I think it's a very positive word. 580 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,440 OK, well that's that's OK. What? 581 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,560 What would you give me? The. 582 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,440 The? Question is to you, so I'm too 583 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,480 down. Actually too down. 584 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,040 One to go, I I don't know what the, I don't know what the 585 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:15,520 actual word is, but I think quite kind of structured as 586 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,480 well. And why do I say that? 587 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:24,520 It doesn't really matter if it's a floaty dress, it's still kind 588 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,360 of, it still can be structured. You know, what I'm wearing now 589 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,000 is still quite structured. So it feels like it's pulled, 590 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,240 quite pulled together. Yes, like that. 591 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,400 But actually, I'm really wanting you to tell me. 592 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,520 Afterwards. Afterwards. 593 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,160 Actually, I think, I think I wouldn't be 1,000,000 miles off 594 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,880 those 3. Do you have one item of clothing 595 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,240 that means the most to you? Can it be my engagement ring? 596 00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:51,360 Because that's what really means most to me. 597 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,560 Yeah. That's really what I I I it was 598 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,680 the first piece of jewelry I ever designed. 599 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,080 I was going to say, did you design it yourself? 600 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,640 It was the first piece I designed. 601 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,320 And when I designed it, I I guess, I guess this is my 602 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,840 approach to designing jewelry. But I didn't realize that at the 603 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,080 time. I knew I wanted to wear it 604 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,800 absolutely. Every day. 605 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,280 Yeah, which I have done literally every day. 606 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,440 So therefore it was very practical. 607 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,600 You can see it's kind of very, very flat. 608 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,960 You know, there are no claws that things are going to get 609 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,320 stuck in. And I I have literally worn it 610 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,520 every day. Never thought I was going to 611 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,000 have a Ruby. I thought I was going to have an 612 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,040 emerald until I realized that once you put stones on your 613 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,160 skin, you kind of quite quickly see what works. 614 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,920 What doesn't work? Anyway, it's a rather dirty 615 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,120 looking Ruby today, but that's the thing I I wear every day. 616 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,240 I love that. And did you choose the Ruby 617 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:49,280 together? Yeah, tears it together. 618 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:52,040 And then you added a lot of diamonds. 619 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,960 I've added a bit. I've added more now because 620 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,920 that's the middle bit. Brilliant. 621 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,520 So the middle bit's the original bit. 622 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,920 And then I thought, you know, 33 years, four children later, 623 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:03,840 bigger is better. Bigger is better. 624 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,400 Anyway, so I thought I'd the. Ring that kept growing and now 625 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,800 on to planning and we've talked about having a stylist, which I 626 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:22,360 think is is really interesting. And as a designer, do you have a 627 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,360 a sort of design uniform, sort of clothes that you can 628 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,400 effortlessly put on every day so that you can focus on designing 629 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,640 jewelry? I think it's not very, it's not 630 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,960 very original, but I think a really good pair of jeans, I 631 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,360 think. Who'd you go to for a really 632 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,480 good pair of jeans? Well, it depends a bit. 633 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:47,040 I go to frame. Yeah. 634 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,520 I think mother sometimes. Yeah. 635 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,360 Those are the two I I. Think so Jeans and. 636 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,160 Jeans. Yeah, I'm afraid. 637 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:03,120 Great white shirt. Love it, But also in terms of 638 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,520 setting off jewelry, the understatement of a beautiful 639 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,720 white shirt and a pair of jeans and then great jewelry. 640 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,920 I mean that's it. You're set to go great kind of 641 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,960 cocktail ring or great pair of earrings and then you can go 642 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,520 anywhere really. That all sounds gorgeous, but 643 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,280 would you say you'd had a specific worst fashion moment? 644 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,880 Oh God, I've had lots of it. That Laura Ashley moment was not 645 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,440 a good one. I have. 646 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,000 To say that was as a child, as an adult. 647 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,920 Have I had a worse fashion moment? 648 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,920 I mean, I think that I can't think of one very specifically, 649 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,040 but I would think there have been lots and my children. 650 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,520 I mean, Chloe will say. What? 651 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,360 What are? You thinking of? 652 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,800 I just can't remember, but quite reasonably often I'd say. 653 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,560 And do you listen to their opinion? 654 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,760 Yeah, Chloe went for Chanel for quite a long time. 655 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,600 So I'm like, you listen, I listen. 656 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,520 Yeah, she's super stylish. I know you're a seasoned and 657 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,440 passionate traveller. Do you pay particular attention 658 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,920 to what your travel look will be? 659 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:18,360 Well, I I mean, and do I? Yes, I do. 660 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,480 I want to be comfortable and maybe I'm just really old 661 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,720 fashioned, but I I I want to be quite smart. 662 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:28,280 I normally wear a jacket. I normally wear a jacket with 663 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,760 lots of pockets because I've kind of got this thing. 664 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,760 Now I don't want to carry a bag very much. 665 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,160 So I'll have something which has got pockets which put the 666 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,600 passport and all of those things. 667 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:44,240 So I it's quite a practical approach, but I'd never go to 668 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:48,400 the airport in kind of, you know, leggings and I just, I 669 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,560 just wouldn't. I think that goes back to being 670 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,680 very fat, maybe. Oh. 671 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:56,160 Stop it. So not good Packer. 672 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,760 Bad Packer. Getting better Packer. 673 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,720 What luggage do you use? East Pack. 674 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,960 Brilliant, aren't they? Brilliant. 675 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,200 I discovered E Pack a couple of years ago. 676 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,520 And brilliant. I mean, I love my wheat on, but 677 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,880 East Pack get the Vote E pack. Light easy, yeah. 678 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,440 Do you plan your holiday? Looks very carefully. 679 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,520 Again, I'm getting better at it. So because I've lost my luggage 680 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:29,400 so many times since COVID that now I have to try and at least 681 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,680 get kind of. I've just been away recently and 682 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,400 luckily I had three days worth of things in my suitcase that I 683 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,360 could wear. So, and I think I'm trying 684 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:46,960 really trying to kind of dress more, more you know, so that all 685 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,760 everything works together. Lots of outfits for not too many 686 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,160 pieces. Sounds trying, trying, I hasten 687 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,200 to add. When you travel, do you find 688 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,880 yourself consciously seeking out local jewelry designers or 689 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:09,360 fashion designers? I much I I weirdly, I shop much 690 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,200 more when I'm traveling than than in London because I don't, 691 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,560 you know, otherwise It's so the whole thing's so insane, isn't 692 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,480 it? Wherever you go. 693 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,240 Have you had any sort of surprising destinations where 694 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:26,640 you've got to and thought, God, this is so rich? 695 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,360 Well, I mean, it depends what I'm looking for. 696 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,560 But I'm in Guatemala for color. Like, I thought I'd never see 697 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,120 color like I had in India. But Guatemala is on a whole 698 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,000 similar level. It's incredible. 699 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,440 So that's amazing. So I mean, there's so many 700 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,480 places, you know, Ethiopia, I mean, they're so beautiful, the 701 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,360 people and so elegant, just in white and just beautiful. 702 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,760 So there are lots of lots of different places for different. 703 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,120 Coming on to your wardrobe secrets, would you say you've 704 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:09,080 got a a guilty secret brand? Connolly. 705 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,680 Oh, how Sublime is. Connolly. 706 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:15,400 Yeah. Connolly. 707 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,920 Guilty secret. OK, then. 708 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,160 That's a very. Tense. 709 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,600 Guilty, yeah. It is. 710 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,880 I go and pretend to buy John for things and they were just have a 711 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,240 little look have. You have you ever justified 712 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:29,240 something on a pounds per Ware at Connolly? 713 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,880 Yeah, I think I do. I think I have to. 714 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,920 I have to, but actually it is quite good per wear. 715 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,800 It is. It is. 716 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,160 You're right. Coming on to values. 717 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,400 What's your approach to sustainable fashion? 718 00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:54,560 So I I'm really, really trying to buy much less, less and 719 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,720 better. So I'm, I go to Zara 720 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:01,720 occasionally, but I no longer go to pop in for two or three 721 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,800 things just because you know jewelry obviously what I do find 722 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,960 jewelry is truly sustainable in that it will be here from now 723 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:18,040 till forever and I'm, you know, I'm a real, I don't like plated 724 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,920 jewelry at all. Because. 725 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,120 Well, because if you've got something that's gold plated, 726 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,040 looks like gold, you know at the end of the day it will wear off 727 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,200 and quite often people don't realize cause because it doesn't 728 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,400 mean it's inexpensive. You know, you might buy a gold 729 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,840 plated beautiful necklace and it might cost you hundreds of 730 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,800 pounds, but I don't think people realize it's gold plate. 731 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,160 And then when you swam a few times and it sits next to your 732 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,920 skin, the gold will come off. And then effectively, unless 733 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,480 it's replated and most people don't do that, it's landfill. 734 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,040 You know, and why don't most people replate? 735 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,520 Because they don't. They're unaware that it can be 736 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,040 done. I think they are unaware that it 737 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,480 can be done. I mean, I I I had a girl who was 738 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,920 doing some work for me recently and she said, oh, I never wear 739 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,080 that anymore because it's kind of the colors all gone off it. 740 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,560 So I'm I'm like, we'll just get it replated. 741 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:19,800 Hadn't even occurred to her. She didn't. 742 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,040 She just didn't know. I was staggered that she didn't 743 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,960 know that it was gold plate. She'd spent a lot of money, and 744 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,600 yet it's gold plate anyway, so sustainability and jewelry is 745 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,200 something that's important. What do you do with your clothes 746 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,360 when you've had enough of them? I will give them to a charity 747 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,360 shop. Do you ever sell them? 748 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,600 No, I don't sell them. I don't sell them. 749 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,520 It's yeah, maybe I'm just lazy, but now I really, and I'm very 750 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,920 involved in the Prince's Trust. Yeah. 751 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,600 And I and some of those, I can't remember the name of the 752 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,680 charity, but you know where they will give give the clothes to 753 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,320 young people who are who are needing to know how to go to 754 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,640 their first interview. Smart. 755 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,440 Works exactly smart. Works. 756 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,920 Love that charity. Love that. 757 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,200 Just brilliant. Yeah. 758 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,120 So I I do that quite a lot. Yeah. 759 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:14,280 Would you ever consider renting? I haven't considered renting. 760 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,480 I suspect there's a whole load of admin involved in renting. 761 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,880 I think I think you're right and it sounds like you hold on to 762 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,480 your clothes. I love my clothes, yeah. 763 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,480 No. And I I, you know, I I mean, so 764 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,640 I wouldn't not consider renting on principle. 765 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,640 Yeah, it's not about that. It's just about just the admin. 766 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,760 And also I think you only get it for three or four days or 767 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,680 something. So what happens if it doesn't 768 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,040 fit, or it does it, or look dreadful in it? 769 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,040 And then I'm back to square one. What is the oldest piece in your 770 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,240 wardrobe that's. A really good question. 771 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,800 I've got, I've got lots, I've got lots of my mother's clothes. 772 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,760 You wouldn't have thought so from what I said earlier, but 773 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,480 actually. And clothes that you wear. 774 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,480 Yeah, clothes. No, no clothes I really wear. 775 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,680 I've got quite a lot of clothes in the dressing up cupboard that 776 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,720 belong to her too. Favorite favorite piece of hers 777 00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:13,040 that you wear to her? I've got a rather beautiful EVE 778 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,280 Sauneron blazer blazer made of. It sounds absolutely ghastly, 779 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,240 but it's gorgeous. It's kind of lavender noire 780 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:23,240 silk, I think. Stiffer than silk. 781 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,160 And what sort of era would you say that's from? 782 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,760 Well. I think it's probably kind of 783 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,720 70s, yeah. Yeah. 784 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,040 Anyway, I I, I, I don't. I can't wear it very often, but 785 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,960 I absolutely love it and it really makes me think of her. 786 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,880 I was going to say, does it bring you closer to? 787 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,160 It it definitely does. How lovely, How lovely. 788 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,960 Well, on that happy note, let's turn some fire questions. 789 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,520 What fashion advice would you give your 20 year old self? 790 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,360 Keep it simple. Fashion or beauty trend you 791 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:04,120 would consign to room 101. Rah rah skirts. 792 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,280 Your last impulse buy. Oh, impulse buy. 793 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,200 Oh, it'll be a pair of shoes. Views on tattoos. 794 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,360 Ghastly. Beauty treatment you couldn't 795 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,800 give up. Not many blue beauty treatments 796 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,040 go here. Afraid I I could do. 797 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,800 Was taking some up, I think. High End or High Street? 798 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,480 Mix. Bling or bear? 799 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:37,160 Well, obviously bling. Minimalism or maximalism? 800 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,360 Minimalism. Couture or charity shop? 801 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,480 Nice to go to Couture, but do you know charity shop too? 802 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:48,360 Both. Crocs. 803 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,280 Cute or puke? Oh, puke. 804 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,440 Sneakers or stilettos? Sneakers. 805 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,440 Skinnies or boyfriends or wide legs? 806 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,240 Wide legs. Body con or boho? 807 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,000 Boho. Party wear or PJS? 808 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,640 PJS. Cashmere or cotton? 809 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,640 Both. Hoarder or editor? 810 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:18,600 Hoarder, charity shop or resale? Charity shop. 811 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,280 Shapewear or sexy lingerie? You know, sadly for John 812 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,920 Shapewear. Tights or stockings? 813 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,560 Stockings. Bikini on one piece. 814 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,280 One piece. Trilby or Tracy Trilby. 815 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,280 And finally, one last question. At the end of the day, what do 816 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,160 you or don't you wear in bed? I just wear my jewellery. 817 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,680 All of it. A bit like poco Chanel. 818 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:52,200 Just #5 love that Anushka. Thank you so much. 819 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,600 What fun to chat all things style and jewelry with you 820 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,560 today. Thank you. 821 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,360 Thank you. I've got a lot of our questions 822 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,040 to ask you now.