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Achievements. 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,440 I mean, my God, doing my research, I felt almost 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,080 exhausted by the amount that you have done and that you do do. 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,840 And you've bought me this heavenly carrot cake, which I I 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,520 can smell it from here. And I'm going to really struggle 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,040 to get through this without getting my chops around a slice, 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,040 but we'll get get to that later. But what are you most excited 34 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,720 about at the moment I started. Doing these cookery classes 35 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,280 because being, you know, I'm a chef. 36 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,600 That's my, my, my main job. It's what I trained As for years 37 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,120 now. I've been actually a chef now 38 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,440 for 26 years. It's a long time. 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:29,640 And so my love, like my big love and passion is teaching people 40 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:31,920 how to cook. So whether I do it through 41 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:36,000 television or my Instagram videos or Sunday Times column, 42 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,960 whatever, they're all little kind of vessels of how to teach 43 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,920 people to cook. And so I decided a couple of 44 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:46,040 months ago to do personal cookery classes and I get a 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,160 group of six, there's no more than six. 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,000 And we kind of try out a few dates every couple of weeks. 47 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,080 And very lucky, you know, they get sold out in about 1/2 an 48 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,280 hour, which is always so exciting. 49 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,880 And, and it's so lovely because people come from, with a lady 50 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,680 from Canada who flew from Canada last week. 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,800 I couldn't believe it. I felt like I had to do like a 52 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,640 Tina Turner in front of her or something. 53 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,680 And we always have people coming from Ireland and it's just such 54 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,720 a gorgeous way to get six people in front of you. 55 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,960 In my kitchen, they're all sitting around the island and I 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,480 get to teach them how to cook bread and fresh pasta or 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,200 depending on the class they take, or cheese souffles or 58 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,680 tarta tans or whatever it is that we're doing on that 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,800 particular day. What kind of theme it is. 60 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,720 At the beginning I was thinking, am I mad? 61 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,160 Letting people into my house, you know, Now that I can have 62 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,880 it, I know. Because I saw that and I 63 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,760 thought, oh, that's quite brave. Yeah. 64 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,680 But I think it's really beautiful. 65 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,880 Yeah. I mean, when you were designing 66 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,040 your kitchen. Yeah. 67 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,200 Did you have this in mind? No, I had my friends and my 68 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,880 family in mind because whenever, you know, when we're down the 69 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,080 farm and Broadspear, I'm always in the kitchen and other people 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,560 are either in the dining room or outside in the garden. 71 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,320 And it's also removed. So what I wanted was that kind 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,960 of nook in or kitchen in London where my friends come in and 73 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,120 they sit up and I can be cooking and chatting to them. 74 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,760 And so that was the idea. Never in a month of Sundays that 75 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,399 I think that I would be having people come in that I didn't 76 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:25,000 know beforehand. But I've been so lucky. 77 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,120 My followers on social media that come along are so lovely 78 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,520 and and I'm just loving it. I'm really loving it. 79 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,360 Love how personal that is. Yeah, I used to love putting 80 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,040 events together in in the store for exactly that reason. 81 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,040 I bet you did. People get to know each other 82 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,240 and you know, then it's sort of you've got a common interest. 83 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,680 Yeah, almost been wonderful hearing all the stories about 84 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,280 where people have worn your dresses and. 85 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,640 And but I still get that which I love, I absolutely love. 86 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,360 Everyone seems to have their their story that they want to 87 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,360 share with you, which is just just brilliant. 88 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,960 Yeah. And today we're going on a style 89 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,600 journey together. How did you decide what you were 90 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,120 going to walk around the corner in? 91 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,040 Do you know what? I actually changed twice because 92 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,440 of the weather. So we've been hit by like, I 93 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,400 don't know, 22° today or something. 94 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:23,880 Have we have been? Have you? 95 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,200 Been in here, it's yes I'm 22° outside so I had like a sweater 96 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,760 on. Went outside I'm like Oh my God 97 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,640 I'm hot already. Went back in and threw on a 98 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,320 T-shirt and I love waist coats at the moment I just love them. 99 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Anyone any particular brand? I have a really, I have a 100 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,360 gorgeous cream one which is a Bamford 1 by my friend Carl 101 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:50,880 Bamford, which I wear a lot. And then this one is from Oh my 102 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,880 goodness, what's the name? Reform. 103 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,760 Reformation. Reformation. 104 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,440 Yes, brilliant reformation and any. 105 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:03,920 Particular T-shirt supplier and I think T-shirts are quite a 106 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,920 science. Yeah, a bit obsessed with. 107 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,680 White T-shirts. Yeah, so am I. 108 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,280 This isn't a great one to be honest. 109 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,000 I need to who? Who do you recommend? 110 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,600 Where should I be getting my T-shirts from? 111 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,160 I love a few. I love James Purse OK, but they 112 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,320 don't last forever. Never heard of and they are. 113 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,680 It's really. Expensive for what they are, but 114 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:27,520 they are absolutely beautiful. Japanese cotton rag and bone do 115 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,760 a really good one. OK. 116 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Really good one. And then I'm just I'm a bit of a 117 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,760 try it and see, do you? Do a line of white T-shirts. 118 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,960 No, you should do a line of white T-shirts. 119 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,120 Any line? Don't. 120 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:48,960 Let's not even go there now. You grew up in Ireland, Yeah. 121 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:50,680 And. Were. 122 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,680 You very in Cork, were you very aware of your mother's style at 123 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,440 an early age? Yeah, I was, because she spent 124 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,720 so much time on it. Was she? 125 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,720 Was she mad about fashion? She was mad about fashion. 126 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:05,760 And did that rub off on you as a child? 127 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,160 Not really. It was definitely her thing and 128 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,320 I just loved watching. Maybe now, because I do make a, 129 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,600 you know, an effort if I'm going out somewhere, you know, I love 130 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,760 that getting dressed up and I love pairing things up and I 131 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,520 really will make an effort. Or I'll put my lipstick on of, 132 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,680 you know, Harry's on his way home from work, I'll make sure 133 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,960 I'll put a lip gloss up. And my mother used to always do 134 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,200 that. She'd always be running in to 135 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,720 put her lipstick on if my dad was on his way home from work. 136 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,160 So lovely. But she loved fashion. 137 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,880 Oh my goodness. But I think, you know, back 138 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,920 then, when I was growing up in Ireland in the 70s and 80s, when 139 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,960 I was young, you know, women dressed so glamorously, didn't 140 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,480 they, going out for like the local dancers, You know, it was. 141 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,880 A glammy era. It was a glammy era with the 142 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,440 handbags and the shoes and the little jackets and. 143 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,520 And, and I read that you used to go on French exchanges as a, as 144 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,960 a child, as a, as a teenager. Would that? 145 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,960 As a teenager, Can you believe I went over when I was 12 on my 146 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,240 own on the boat? Yeah, I know. 147 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,600 And there probably will be PE Irish people look listening to 148 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,520 this reminisce and going like, yeah, we did the same. 149 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,920 So there was a boat that went from Cork over to Lahar if I 150 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:29,880 think it was and Cork was twinned with Wren as an alliance 151 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,159 exchange. And so all these Cork young kids 152 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:36,640 would go, every would go out and be do this exchange with French 153 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,720 families and all if I want, I think it was like 18 hours on 154 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,679 the boat. If I remember like on my own, 155 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,480 like, and there's all these group of kids and there was no 156 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,480 leader or whatever. And all I remember is when I got 157 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,720 off and all the crowds and there was like, my name was held up by 158 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,960 this adorable French family called the Wazans. 159 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:01,520 I love very, very much. And there's still very much in 160 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:07,200 my life and I, I fell in love with this family and they fell 161 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,480 in love with me. And so much so that I went back 162 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,360 and spent a couple of months every year in the house. 163 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,840 She, it was my first year there. And because both my parents 164 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:24,720 worked full time, umm, I remember Madame Ronza calling my 165 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,800 mom and it was coming to the end of the two weeks saying we love 166 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,440 Cloda so much. Do you think she could stay here 167 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,560 for another few weeks? And my poor mother was probably 168 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:36,840 heartbroken and but let anyhow allowed me to stay on there. 169 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,320 I stayed on for like 6 weeks and I fell in. 170 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,680 I fell madly in love with this family and they became my second 171 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:47,160 family. And were you speaking fluent 172 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,920 French? So when I first went over, I 173 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,640 didn't have a word and they had no English. 174 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,480 Oh my God. So it was quite complicated, but 175 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,200 before there was a professor at university, so very good at 176 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,240 teaching and the mother was so patient and was kind of 177 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,120 slightly, I want to say, not besotted with me, but like she 178 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,320 loved me very fast and I loved her very fast. 179 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,200 And she was really, really glamorous. 180 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,120 A jet black hair that she used to have always gelled back like 181 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,600 this into a little Xinyong and the most big fabulous earrings. 182 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,360 And she'd always wear like a white shirt or a white T-shirt, 183 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,400 friendly enough. And then big skirts every single 184 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,800 day and wonderful shoes. She was so incredibly chic. 185 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,960 And she was a stay at home mom used to manage all the home and 186 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,320 to cook and everything. And I had not grown up in a 187 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,040 house like that. And it was all super 188 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,920 contemporary and everything was white and big art pieces and, 189 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:47,360 and I suspend, I mean, I was supposed to be hanging out with 190 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,640 my French exchange, which I did. And we're, we became very close 191 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,400 and we still are. But I spent all my time with the 192 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,560 mom beside her in the kitchen. Oh. 193 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,360 How lovely and did her style rubble for you? 194 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,520 Definitely. Definitely and did. 195 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,440 She take you shopping as a teenager. 196 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,040 Yeah. And did you everything? 197 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,600 And did you come back from France? 198 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,680 Changed a little French girl I wore. 199 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:14,120 White shirts. Crisp white shirts. 200 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,680 I did. You get the full skirt. 201 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,080 Do you know what I used to get? I used to wear skirts that were 202 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,120 pinned at the waist and then they would go out. 203 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,480 But I became obsessed with kind of like little ballet pumps that 204 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,280 I have now and still there and white shirts. 205 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,880 And they had to be crisp. I remember being 1314, and my 206 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,440 mother got into the, you know, all of a sudden it became her 207 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,160 language, too. You know, here we are in 208 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,720 Ireland. Never heard of it before. 209 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,760 Crisp white shirts. And the beret. 210 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:47,680 And the beret, no, I didn't, even though I love a beret and 211 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,520 and I always used to always wear my hair sleeked back like her 212 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,160 such. And the food and that's her. 213 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,160 My love of food really started, you know, making gratin 214 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,920 dufenoises at 14. And this is the girl who had 215 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,720 grown up in the countryside in Ireland. 216 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,840 Because food was not sort of part of the language of your 217 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,520 childhood in Ireland. No, it was lovely to have that 218 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,800 passion ignited so young. Exactly. 219 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,120 I mean, what was part of my childhood was that we would 220 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,200 always cook every single night at home and we used to baking 221 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,880 every Saturday morning. But I think that was for most 222 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,040 houses, you know, growing up in Ireland. 223 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,800 And it was more a necessity of doing it because we lived in the 224 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,800 countryside and not being able to get to a restaurant. 225 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,000 It was only when I was like 14 that we moved into Cork City and 226 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,840 so or Cork town, it's city now. I don't want to friend anybody 227 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,200 in Cork. It's in the city. 228 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,160 But back then it was kind of more like a big town when I was 229 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,280 growing up. And so there was no restaurants. 230 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,560 Like there was no like, I think I probably the first time I went 231 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:53,480 to a restaurant, it was actually Bamboo House was my auntie's 232 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,120 wedding. And I was like 14, you know, So 233 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,840 we just didn't have that, you know, in our home. 234 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,760 So we had to cook at home every night. 235 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:04,920 And I think about my mom and how hard she worked, you know, and. 236 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,880 So that was really sort of prepping food for the week so 237 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,560 that she could go to work. Yeah, exactly. 238 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,400 So we'd come home from school and we'd have lists. 239 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,800 There'd be lists of things that we had to do when we got home 240 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,920 from school, like peel the potatoes, lay the table. 241 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,120 We always sat at a lay table at 6:00 at night, always linen, 242 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,000 always sat down and was all done nicely and talked to each other. 243 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,800 And there'd always be a pudding. And do you still have that 244 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,240 tradition in your life? Yeah, yeah, it's in OR. 245 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,400 We have a small little kind of breakfast room and we have our 246 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,240 supper there every night. I'm really regimented every 247 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,480 night during the week. If we're there and on Friday 248 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,040 night and then on Saturday night I'm like we're in the dining 249 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,040 room Sunday, then we might be outside. 250 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Some of I'm adamant about the everyday meals that we sit down 251 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,920 and we talk and there's no television on the background. 252 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,080 Occasionally if we're like both exhausted and coming home, you 253 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,800 want to be in your sloppy joes. And like usually Sunday nights 254 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,880 actually, we'll have ATV supper, but. 255 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,000 I mean, you've been a chef now for many years, and so in those 256 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,680 early years, you were always in a uniform. 257 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,200 Yeah. Did you did you ever customize 258 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:21,800 it or were you quite good about sticking with the uniform? 259 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,680 When I first trained, it was quite, you know, strict, so we 260 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,640 had to all have or chef whites. It doesn't happen this much 261 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,800 anymore unless you're going to be a chef chef and you're only 262 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,440 going to be in the restaurants. But back when I started, it was 263 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,160 I did the Bamlu cookery course for three months and then I went 264 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,760 on and trained as a chef in Ballymoo House in the kitchens. 265 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,840 And it was quite formal. Yeah, you know, chef whites, you 266 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,320 know, certain trousers, the blue and white check trousers, your 267 00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:00,080 clogs, apron on hair, all back. You know, it was, was quite. 268 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,160 So I kind of learned that. As a chef, you must have been 269 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,120 working 24/7 silly hours. I was, yeah. 270 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,400 And so not really having any mufti time in a way. 271 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,960 Yeah, and so engrossed in it. Like I was so passionate and so 272 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,440 in love with food. It was a really exciting time. 273 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,560 I feel so blessed to have gotten that time. 274 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,200 And the work ethic I learned in there was. 275 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,480 The basic and the passion and I think those two things, yeah, 276 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,400 you know any young person listening, those are the two 277 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,920 critical things I think they. Really. 278 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,600 And I was speaking just a few weeks ago to see a Fenello. 279 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,200 I'm sure you know the jewelry designer about that. 280 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,280 And that's the most important thing when you're going into a 281 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:48,600 profession is that you learn your trade, you do the grafting 282 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,240 and it and get impassioned by that grafting and learning that 283 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,600 work ethic where you will work seven days a week, which is 284 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,160 sometimes on call or you might go in the morning, at 8:00 in 285 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,280 the morning. You mightn't finish it for one. 286 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,840 Sometimes you might finish at 10. 287 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,200 It shouldn't matter. It really shouldn't matter. 288 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,560 You don't get to this stage with looking at your clock and saying 289 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,960 I've got to leave at 5:00. It just doesn't happen. 290 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,360 Absolutely. No, I'm I'm a big fan of what 291 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,880 you're saying and and actually the the clock doesn't, as you 292 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,760 said, doesn't matter. Yeah, it's the passion. 293 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,320 It's exciting that. Passion. 294 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,360 I worked so hard in this kitchen. 295 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,160 I was working at Ballymoo House thinking I would say there may 296 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,040 be forever. I never any thoughts about 297 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,800 moving out of a restaurant. I was in my domain and a local 298 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,040 farmers market started in Middleton which was like 15 299 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,040 minutes from Ballymilloo and I went in and saw it and I was 300 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,240 like Oh my God I want to stand here. 301 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,280 This is amazing. And it was the first of like 5 302 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,600 farmers markets in Ireland just. Local produce. 303 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,680 Yeah, but for me, what was amazing was the IT was so 304 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,200 inclusive. You know, growing up in Ireland, 305 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,839 it was very much, I'm sure it's the exact same here in the UK 306 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,880 was that good food was always so exclusive. 307 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:13,880 You know, the good food shops, the good restaurants and going 308 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,920 into this farmers market, seeing all this amazing produce and it 309 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,520 was proper, only local farmers were allowed in this market or 310 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,000 local producers. So if you're making something or 311 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,640 growing something and they're really strict about it and 312 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,320 seeing everybody from every walk of life packed in this market 313 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,920 and these local guys playing music, I went in and I was like, 314 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,760 Oh my God, how can I get a stand here? 315 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,920 And so I got a stand there. And so I used to cook up for it 316 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,080 on Fridays after I used to finish the energy when you're, 317 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,080 you know, I'd finish service, go back and start making fresh 318 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,680 pasta and I'd do an all nighter and then go straight into the 319 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,160 market and then get back for service to be in there for 2:00. 320 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:04,160 And I was on cloud nine. I was just loving setting up my 321 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,800 stall with fresh pastas and pestos and patties and my 322 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,680 breads, my soda breads. I would just love it. 323 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,680 And sometimes the pestos and things like that, I'd make, you 324 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,320 know, during the week earlier and my life became revolved 325 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,080 around it. And then one day then I decided 326 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,200 to leave and to go to the markets full time. 327 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,640 Brave move. Yeah. 328 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,880 I mean, I was like, this is my passion. 329 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,520 I want to work on farmers markets. 330 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,440 There are really five in Ireland and I wanted to work on 331 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,480 developing them and opening up more and having more stands in 332 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,960 them. And so I did that for three 333 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,800 years. I worked on the farmers markets. 334 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,480 And what were you wearing? Tweed jackets, white T-shirts 335 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,640 probably. I'm sure white shirts, denims. 336 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,960 Yeah. When I was doing it, I got 337 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,000 offered my first TV show. Somebody had been talking about 338 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,240 it and Rick Stein had done a piece on me and people. 339 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,040 I was running Slow Food Ireland and I was running events and 340 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,640 things like that. I was doing them for free, 341 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,000 basically. Like I took over Ken Merritt, 342 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,160 this town in Ireland one weekend and I did a Slow Food weekend 343 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,560 where you'd come and, you know, learn about food and do 344 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,280 workshops and we had dinners at all the restaurants involved. 345 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,840 And all of a sudden I started to be getting a name. 346 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,040 Not nothing to do with TV or anything, but just of the work 347 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,440 that I was doing with farmers and for food in Ireland behind 348 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,640 the scenes. And then I got offered my own TV 349 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:39,960 series to do to basically go around Ireland and to to go to 350 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,440 visit the cheese makers and people who were doing kind of 351 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,960 really unusual things. Were you very aware of what you 352 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,880 were wearing for television because you probably didn't have 353 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,400 access to a stylist? No. 354 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:57,800 So it was all about the food. It was all about the food and I 355 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,920 didn't have access to a stylist, something like that. 356 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,280 And then I think when where my style really changed was because 357 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,280 I felt this immense pressure of all of a sudden having this show 358 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,120 in Ireland and. It became very big, very fast 359 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:16,160 and within, because Ireland is small and that's possible. 360 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,520 I became a household name in Ireland very fast and I was only 361 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,120 like 29. So I decided to move to Italy. 362 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,080 So I moved to Italy as you do. Just to escape from the fame and 363 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,000 I know. Exactly. 364 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,400 I thought I just wanted to learn more about food. 365 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,880 I knew everything there was to know about Irish food and I've 366 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,080 been trained in Ballymaloo, which is a lot of kind of French 367 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,320 style cooking. I really want to immerse myself 368 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,520 in a food culture and just learn and learn. 369 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,960 So I moved to Italy and I was there for three years and that's 370 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,880 really when I was getting excited about clothes. 371 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,760 Then when I was there where? Were you in Italy? 372 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,880 In Turin in the north. Yes. 373 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,840 And so there's so much clothing manufacturing around there and 374 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,160 it is really. And it's a really old school 375 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,880 part of Italy. You know, people haven't been to 376 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,280 Turin before. It was built to be the capital 377 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,040 of Italy. So you've got all the old 378 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,320 families of people, you know, the men dressing tweeds during 379 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,400 the winter, you know, three piece and everything is quite 380 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,800 formal and and beautiful and pared back, that beautiful 381 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,320 classic Italian style. And I loved it. 382 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,600 You're so passionate about ingredients and the sort of 383 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,640 nourishing of you. Do clothes nourish you in any 384 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,760 way? They give me confidence, 385 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,600 especially on this morning. So how do you go about putting 386 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,640 together your this morning's looks? 387 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,480 So I do put a bit of time into that because it's such a big 388 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,560 viewership and people who watch the show, they like to buy the 389 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,400 garments as well. Well, I've noticed that you're 390 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,000 now starting to say T-shirt by. Yeah, dress by. 391 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,680 Yeah, it is because we just try. We get so inundated with the 392 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,080 DMS, you know, people getting in contact in e-mail or direct 393 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,680 messages asking about where the clothes from. 394 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,720 I mean, usually, you know, sometimes the the clothing will 395 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:11,800 sell out because you're on the show. 396 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,680 It's a brick. This Morning is amazing, has an 397 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,160 amazing loyal audience. For example, if you go on at 398 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,480 your book, there's no other show that will sell more copies of 399 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,160 your book in Britain. And it's just amazing. 400 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:28,320 So when I'm picking it out, I pick things that are, they have 401 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,000 to be comfortable. I like things fitted at the 402 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,840 waist. Everything I have is fitted at 403 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:39,440 the waist and I like things that are loose up here. 404 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,360 I don't like big bright colors. Like I just don't like. 405 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,800 I wish I loved big bright Reds and all the rest and greens and 406 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,120 it's just not for me. Do you think it's not like it? 407 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,400 Being a blonde. Maybe it's being a blonde. 408 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,920 Yeah, yeah, I think close to be a little bit more. 409 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,440 So they don't dress you, you dress you do. 410 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,040 I do it all, I do it all. So I will scour and have a look 411 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,840 and and then also the, you know, the people who they're, you 412 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,600 know, I might all of a sudden see a brand that I really love 413 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,720 and I want to wear it like these little jewelry pieces by Betty 414 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,280 and Biddy. They're so sweet. 415 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,920 There's two Irish girls. And so it's really lovely that 416 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,400 you can wear something like that. 417 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,000 And then they e-mail you afterwards going thank you for 418 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,960 wearing our necklace. We got, you know, blah, blah, 419 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,160 blah, or, you know, it's really lovely. 420 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,960 You can work it that way. So I try to mix it with brands 421 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,200 when I'm wearing, when I'm wearing the clothes, I try to do 422 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,040 a shuffle of things that are inexpensive and things that are, 423 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:38,160 we'll say really good value for money, but would be maybe a 424 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,800 bigger spend for somebody, more of a commitment from somebody. 425 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,160 So I try to mix that things. I mean, last week was really 426 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,400 funny. I was on the show and I was 427 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,520 wearing this bardo top which I was so in love with. 428 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,440 It was like a baby blue and it was all lair. 429 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,720 It was gorgeous, really fitted and I had like the perfect 430 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,240 denims. I mean, I mean I love denims so 431 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,560 much and you're a high rated. Jeans. 432 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,320 Love good jeans. And it was a bardo top and I was 433 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,440 so happy. And and then literally 3 minutes 434 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,840 before we go live there was like, could I you've you've, 435 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,560 you've got to change your top really quickly. 436 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,360 And I was like, what? They're like, you've got to 437 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:19,920 change your top. And when you're doing live TV, 438 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,720 you don't want anything unsettling happening. 439 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,200 No. And so I was flung out the side. 440 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,560 There's a wardrobe there. Chew, chew on something else on 441 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,040 me. And I had to go back in. 442 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,560 I was tucking my thing in all of a sudden. 443 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,880 Yeah. So I've got 1A chicken that I'm 444 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,160 going to cook three ways today to last you throughout the 445 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,400 weekend. And my nipples were showing in 446 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,040 the top and they were so they, you know, they were trying to be 447 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,400 polite. And it's all men up there. 448 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,120 So nobody was going to say, oh, sorry, Claudia, your nipples are 449 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:50,320 showing. We can't actually film you this 450 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,640 way. So those things going to happen. 451 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,440 But it's really lovely to have fun with it. 452 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,320 You know, it's so nice to have fun with the fashion. 453 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,440 On it. But do you get swamped with 454 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,200 clothing scent and accessories scent to you? 455 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,080 How do you deal with that? When brands get in touch that I 456 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,080 know I won't wear it, I really politely explain that it's just 457 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,160 not my style. Now you tied the knot in 2021. 458 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Yes, for the first time. For the first time. 459 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,040 How did you choose your wedding dress? 460 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,200 Very annoyingly to all my friends and family who are all 461 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,400 so excited about making a big day, I went off on my own and I 462 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,920 got it within two hours and. Sorry, Mum. 463 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,560 I know, sorry everybody, everybody was so annoyed because 464 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,040 I knew that the pressure was mounting and it was like 5 weeks 465 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,320 for the wedding and I still hadn't. 466 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,480 Done 5 weeks before and you hadn't got a dress cloder. 467 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,040 Because I was so focused on the wedding, because I organized it 468 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,080 myself and I was so focused on like the menu and the food and 469 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,760 the flowers and growing for it. And there are cows growing 470 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,120 flowers in the cutting garden for it and all around. 471 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,400 Nothing ticking in the back of your brain going I need to. 472 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,840 Find one. I knew I'd find one and I kind 473 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:08,640 of want to just be on my own. So I went down to Sussex and I 474 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,720 went to Alice Temperley and I went in. 475 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,320 Somerset. Somerset went down to Somerset, 476 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,320 went to Alice Temperley Studio there and it was a fairy dress I 477 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,560 tried on and I was like oh that's it. 478 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,920 And they were all like Oh no, no, we've got 23 to try on. 479 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,320 And I was like, no, this is it, this is it. 480 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,680 Oh, I love a decisive girl. I'm very decisive. 481 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,000 Yeah, I am very decisive. And when do you feel you really 482 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:42,480 found your personal style? When I came to London, yeah, I 483 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,920 think that actually was really it. 484 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,880 When I came to London, I broke it. 485 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,080 So I sold the restaurants in Dublin. 486 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,440 Or can I sold my name from the restaurants in Dublin And I had 487 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,120 broke up from my last relationship and I moved to 488 00:26:55,120 --> 00:27:01,480 London and it was I'd rented a house called, it was just like a 489 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,520 coach house, beautiful old coach house. 490 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,800 And when I moved there, it was like the house was like a 491 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,840 healing house for me because it was like I was living on my own 492 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,800 for the first time. It was like I would kind of left 493 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,000 the restaurant, which was kind of little bit heartbreaking for 494 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,040 me, but good for me. Like I did it. 495 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,680 I had a choice. Umm left a relationship and then 496 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:30,000 was in a country where I knew well, professionally, nobody 497 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,840 knew me really, and I'd left like such a big career in 498 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,680 Ireland where everybody knew me and I just wanted some time on 499 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,560 my own. I just want to time my. 500 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,600 Chrysalis. Yeah, in my little bubble. 501 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,240 And I had some friends here, which is really lovely, like 502 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,120 Richard E Grant and his late wife Joan, and people who are 503 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,560 really, really, really good for really good to me. 504 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,560 And I just, you know, kind of just really held on to me, 505 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,760 cocooned me. Yeah. 506 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,120 And. And so I had really gorgeous fun 507 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,480 time like at the beginning, just having supper parties and all of 508 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,800 a sudden and then it was like OK for like 2 months and I was 509 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,360 like, OK, now I need to start grafting really from the 510 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,080 beginning. And it was quite exciting doing 511 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,280 that. And I felt so free because I had 512 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:21,520 nobody in my life to tell me how I should be, no TV to do, like 513 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,840 not trying to be what people wanted me to be, you know, which 514 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,120 I thought was kind of just kind of having it like a wholesome 515 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,520 image and all the rest. And I'd never really thought 516 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,720 about my image. And I just wanted to be free. 517 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,800 And I just felt I had two years of that. 518 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,560 I had two years of just being free for myself as a woman in 519 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,400 her 40s. It was amazing to do that. 520 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,760 I opened up my house and had suppers in my house because I 521 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,360 need to pay the rent. And I was like, I'm broke, what 522 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,560 am I going to do? So I literally opened up my 523 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120 house three days a week and I had people booked in for supper. 524 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,640 Amazing, I know. Was I mad anyhow? 525 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,920 But I did it for a few months. It got me over and then I slowly 526 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,160 got my, I got, I was the columnist for the Evening 527 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,640 Standard and then I slowly, and then the Today show in America 528 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,840 had been in touch and they wanted me to come to America to 529 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,400 cook on the show. So and then they offered me 530 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,480 residency. So I was back and forth and bang 531 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,960 for to New York and up to Canada to do another show every two 532 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,800 weeks. And so that my career in America 533 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,160 really started going well. And then they wanted, they were 534 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,840 thinking, I was thinking, we were thinking, we're chatting, 535 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,240 would I move there? And then and then I met Harry 536 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,640 and it was like, oh, and then I got offered Martin Frizzle, 537 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,120 who's my boss on this morning. He got in contact and he offered 538 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,560 me a contract for this morning all at the same time. 539 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,360 And I was like, OK, I've never thought about concentrating in 540 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,600 the UK and just really settling because I was such a traveller. 541 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,080 I mean, I'm my heart, in my heart, I'm a traveller. 542 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,320 So you can get in on the train this morning as I OK, I'm back 543 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,600 back to myself again, travelling somewhere, you know, I've lived 544 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,040 like in lots of different places. 545 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:14,120 I just love being on the move. And, and so I so, yeah, I 546 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,720 decided then just to kind of maybe, just maybe that I would 547 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,520 start settling here. I never thought I would. 548 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,520 I thought I'd be here for a year or two and then go back to 549 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,520 Ireland or go to America or somewhere. 550 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,360 And and then I settled here and, and that was, I think I'm in my 551 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,240 fifth year of this morning now. And during that process, is that 552 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,320 when you really feel that you found your style? 553 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:45,200 100% when I was on my own, not dressing for a man, not dressing 554 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,480 for TV, just dressing for myself. 555 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,240 Just like, yeah. And if I were to ask you if if 556 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,560 Harry for example, your husband would was to sum up your style 557 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,480 DNA in three words, what would you want those 3 words to be? 558 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,760 70s I love the 70s. I don't know, I guess I just, I 559 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,280 just love, I do love the 70s era. 560 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,040 I love that like high waisted jeans and and blouses and shirts 561 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,960 with that and yeah, like I love what you're wearing today. 562 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,360 It's so beautiful. Thank you. 563 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,280 Have you ever had any disastrous sort of culinary spillages on 564 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,120 your clothes? So one day, it was back in the 565 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,200 day when Holly and Phil were on the show, We used to have so 566 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,560 much fun. Oh, my God. 567 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,280 And it was going to commercial break, and Holly was like, it 568 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,880 was Friday and I think, no, it was a terrorist day. 569 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,040 Yeah, because I never did. Friday's was a terrorist day. 570 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,480 And she was like, I really feel like a cocktail. 571 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,040 I was like, what's your favorite cocktail again? 572 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,320 She's like a white lady. And I was like, I've never had a 573 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,040 white lady. This was just on commercial 574 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,960 break. And I was like, I'll get the 575 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,280 ingredients. Let's make around the show and 576 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,560 then we can have one. They literally ran back into the 577 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,960 kitchen. They were runners being sent out 578 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,040 everywhere. Pandemonium. 579 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Because, you know, it's Holly's cocktail and Holly's. 580 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,080 God, she really is. And Annie, all the ingredients 581 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,680 came back in and it was a whole like we were all kind of giddy 582 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,520 and all of a sudden all the ingredients are in, blah, blah, 583 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,880 blah, cocktail shaker is here, blah, blah, blah. 584 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,040 And I was like, God, it's good enough cocktails. 585 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,160 It's great. 10:30 in the morning. 586 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,160 Exactly. So I did my cook and then I was 587 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,480 like, and we've got Holly's favorite cocktail. 588 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,360 It's a white lady. So I'm putting in this is how 589 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,080 you make it, dish, dish, dish. And then I go to shake the 590 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,280 cocktail. I'm like, and I forgot to put 591 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,520 the lid on the cocktail and I was soaked and I just went 592 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,440 everywhere and I was like, yeah. And I cursed as well. 593 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,800 I was like. Oh shit. 594 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,160 Oh fuck. Oh scoop. 595 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,440 Oh. And was all things like bleep, 596 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,720 bleep. And then Phil was like, no, you 597 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,080 just cursed again. No. 598 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,280 And then he had to get the camera. 599 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,080 He used to like could have really deeply apologizes for all 600 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,240 of the because he knew that it was going to go mad and was all 601 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,360 over every newspaper in the UK, which is I mean, and you haven't 602 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,760 even had a. Sip of the White Lady. 603 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,400 Even had a sip. Oh my God, it was so funny. 604 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,560 It was so funny. Do you feel you've had a a worst 605 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,200 fashion moment? I think it was the launch of my, 606 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,000 I mean, it wasn't even if I was the hair and everything. 607 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,200 It was the launch of my restaurant in Black Rock in 608 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,400 Dublin and I was doing a shoot for the Times for something like 609 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,000 that. And I really, I think I really 610 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,720 didn't even know who I was. You know, they say that. 611 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,400 I always remember somebody said to me, Jana Ferguson's really 612 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,760 amazing woman. Another, I've got so many 613 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,080 amazing women in my life. I'm so blessed. 614 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,320 Another one of them is Jana Ferguson. 615 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:45,240 She's a cheese maker and amazing woman who lives in West Cork in 616 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,640 this incredible farmhouse and everything happens around the 617 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,800 farm table somewhere. You'd be sitting there and Maria 618 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,880 Tostino would have been there, sitting there, who would have 619 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,200 photographed her. She's just incredible. 620 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,040 And you know, Anton Anthony Bradane stayed there for a week 621 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,400 and I was with him there and all his crew and everything happened 622 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,840 around this and they had Guinness in the corner on top. 623 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,960 They have Guinness in the ground top. 624 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,239 And I always remember her saying to me when I was going through 625 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,960 like a phase when I was like 20 something, I, oh, and I just 626 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,400 didn't know what I was doing. I was working so hard as the 627 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,800 farmers markets and then a real cross point and she's like, 628 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,600 there's no point in trying to get to understand who you are 629 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560 right now. Just allowed all to happen 630 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,719 because really I only got to know who I was probably a couple 631 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,360 of years ago. At the time she was 50. 632 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,480 And she goes, that'll all happen just at the moment. 633 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,320 Just flow through it all. Just ski through it all. 634 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,520 What phenomenal advice. Yeah, it really, really is. 635 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,520 Because the more I have these conversations, the more I 636 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,639 realize so many women don't don't really find themselves 637 00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:58,040 until late 40s, fifties. And yeah, and then it's like a 638 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,960 light bulb moment. Of it really is God. 639 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,600 This just feels good. Yeah, it does. 640 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,600 And it's like, that was my moment. 641 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,440 You know, I had my two years and my own. 642 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,160 Yeah, that was my moment when I had like the lows, the lowest 643 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,600 points of my life during that time and the highest points of 644 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,120 my life all on my own. So both high and low on my own. 645 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,320 Yeah, sorry, but it led me to being at a place where I was 646 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,920 able to be loved properly. So to answer your question about 647 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,080 the worst dressed so that and I looked that back of this shoot 648 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:35,680 and it was a pink feather skirt that went way out like way. 649 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,240 Out and you were dressed by a stylist. 650 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:43,320 Yes, and a pink cashmere sweatshirt kind of on top, kind 651 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,720 of fish it and pearls. And my hair was all straightened 652 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,560 in a Bob and I had pearled set earrings to smash the pearls 653 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,600 this cab and the thing out. And I looked like I looked like 654 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,560 something from like the 50s housewife and sitting in the 655 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,280 middle of the restaurant. And I looked back at that and I 656 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,040 go, should God love us? I just didn't know who I was. 657 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,920 But did you feel good in it at the time? 658 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,720 No, no, no, I didn't. I, I remember thinking and not 659 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:10,280 wanting to do, you know, being inside, trying to smile and all 660 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,000 the rest. I just didn't know who. 661 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,600 I just didn't know who I was. Because it's one thing to not 662 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,560 feel comfortable, but it's another thing to say, I don't 663 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,640 like this, but this is who I am. Yeah, totally. 664 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,720 I mean, now I would wear, and this is like, this is quite 665 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:29,080 truthful. Now I wear, you know, a dirty 666 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,120 T-shirt and a pair of jeans and I feel beautiful. 667 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,880 Like I've, and I don't mean that in a vanity way, but I've really 668 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,280 learned to love myself. Like I'm, I'm happy with who I 669 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,960 am. I spend a lot of time giving to 670 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,160 myself as well because I give a lot. 671 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,720 I'm, I'm definitely a feeder and a nourisher and I my friends and 672 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,880 my family. Too, don't you? 673 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,920 I nourish myself. By doing what you do. 674 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,440 Yeah, I do nourish myself. And just being conscious of that 675 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,880 fact that you nourish yourself, what clothes nourish you. 676 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:07,320 I have a gorgeous, my pajamas. I've do you know Debonair? 677 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,080 Yeah, she has. She's brilliant. 678 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:12,440 She's so fabulous. I love her, and her pajamis are 679 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,080 amazing. I have these pink pajamis with a 680 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,720 red lining on them and the cotton is amazing. 681 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:24,800 And I have them oversized and I put them on like, I don't know, 682 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,640 it's 6:00 there. I I Heavenly. 683 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,400 I always think you're very aware of the texture of food. 684 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,920 Yeah. Are you very aware of the 685 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,240 texture of clothes? Yes, yes. 686 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,720 I find it really hard to wear clothes that aren't breathable. 687 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,000 You know, like synthetic fibers or I quite like breathable 688 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,800 fibers. I get hot very fast if I think 689 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,960 about it, you know, Or if something is a crazy design, I 690 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,000 have to take it off because it's too much for me. 691 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,360 Like, yeah, it's interesting. So only when you're talking 692 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,120 about it, you think, God, it's not crazy. 693 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,960 Clothing therapy. Clothing therapy? 694 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,640 Would you say you've got a style icon? 695 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,960 Yeah, I mean, I do love all of the pin UPS of the 70s, British 696 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,280 and French. They would all be my all of 697 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,440 those actresses and that era. You know that we're all hanging 698 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,040 out in Santa pay and. Is Asia consideration as to how 699 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,200 you dress? I used to love, I mean I've got 700 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,800 my legs are OK. So I used to love wearing like a 701 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,600 mini, you know, like with a big jumper and I'd wear a mini or 702 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,480 whatever and I don't feel like I'd do that anymore or I don't 703 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,560 like wearing low cut tops anymore. 704 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,440 So what's sexy to you now? Tailoring. 705 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,640 I love tailoring. I love clothes that are 706 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,600 beautifully tailored. And who for you cuts the best 707 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,120 suit? It depends what kind of suit I 708 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,240 guess. The last great suit that I put 709 00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:59,920 on was by Deck. The Deck, which was amazing, I 710 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:01,760 wore to Cheltenham. That was so I. 711 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,080 Saw that. I think we mentioned you in our 712 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,280 Friday night fashion. Oh, did you? 713 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,120 Oh my God, thank you. How cool you look? 714 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,520 Oh, thank you. So that would be, I think that 715 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,960 would be my favorite suit at the moment. 716 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,960 Do you have one item of clothing that means the most to you? 717 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,360 I have this burgundy brown leather jacket. 718 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,040 It's like a pilot. You know what you call them 719 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,520 aerator, right? There's. 720 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,760 Aviator. Aviator ones, but it's not. 721 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,840 So no, that's a wrong scrap that. 722 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:36,200 It's not an aviator one. It's more like a 70s one because 723 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,280 it's lighter, it's much lighter and it's actually got a 724 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,960 tailoring at the end here at Wasted. 725 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,600 And then it is like sheepskin on the inside and it comes over and 726 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,920 I said beautiful, kind of like not too something like you're a 727 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,040 beautiful nail color, kind of like that color a little bit 728 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,720 more ready in tone. And I got it when I was in New 729 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:57,800 York when I was on the Today show, and I bought it in a 730 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,400 vintage store down in Soho. Are you very organized in your 731 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,080 wardrobe? I'm OK. 732 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,800 I wouldn't say I'm as organized as you are. 733 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,800 I bet you are really organized in your wardrobe. 734 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,680 Well, it's just just because I like how your shirt is so 735 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,920 beautifully pressed and look and I'm all wrinkly are. 736 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,960 You very aware of what you your airport look is going to be, 737 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,360 what your travel look is going. To be getting dressed for the 738 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,480 airport. And what I love Airport. 739 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,920 What's your favorite airport look? 740 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,640 My favorite airport look would be high waisted denim jeans. 741 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:41,280 Maybe a Brett on top to go with this and a little jacket and 742 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:47,880 some nice white seek sneakers And then and then the bag I 743 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,640 really like like a lovely wrecker bag when I'm travelling 744 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,440 so I can put in my like, I really love a cashmere, big 745 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,440 cashmere scarf that can wrap around myself when I'm on the 746 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,920 plane. And I have a whole routine when 747 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:06,120 I'm on a flight as well of like the beauty and, and smells like 748 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,320 I like really fresh wisteria smells. 749 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,200 I spray more in my seat with the smell and God help the person 750 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,360 who's sitting beside me. And then I have my food things, 751 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,520 you know, so you have like. Complete flight ritual. 752 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:19,160 And my complete flight ritual. I take food with you. 753 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,960 Yes, yes. Interesting. 754 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,520 And what and is that all prepared by you? 755 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,920 Or well, it depends where I'm flying from. 756 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,680 So if I'm flying from T5, you know, Fortnums, do these 757 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,680 hamperlings, have you ever gotten one? 758 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,320 No. Oh my God, they're the best 759 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,360 upgrade you can give your life. So they start from 20 lbs and 760 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,480 they go right up to 100 pence. I get the in between 1:00, which 761 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,280 is £0.35 and it's the most beautiful, you know, branded 762 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,760 Fortnum's little freezer bag and you open it up and it's got a 763 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,600 little plate of delicious smoked salmon, a green salad dressing, 764 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,240 a lemon pastas, brown rye bread, little salt and Peppers. 765 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,360 So I always get that when I'm travelling from T5, I'll always 766 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,800 try and travel from T5 and then if it's a long journey then I 767 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,880 might go up to prep then and get, OK, well, I'll get like the 768 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,880 tuna Nisswa salad. I'll have that for later on by 769 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,280 trying to eat oily fish and lots of greens. 770 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,480 I don't like eating airplane food at all. 771 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,640 Like I never will really. I love doing the the bag when 772 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,640 I'm on the other side. So when we're coming back, like 773 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,000 for example, when we came back from Rome just a couple of weeks 774 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,160 ago and even though it was only like a 2 hour flight, I, I have 775 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,840 to eat on a plane. I don't know what it is. 776 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,920 You get hungry, don't you? There yes I try not to but 777 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,440 forget it. OK, I that never works. 778 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,240 So I got focaccia on board and beautiful Parma ham, and we had 779 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,440 focaccia bread and Parma ham, which is really, really nice. 780 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,000 That sounds. And a glass of white wine at 781 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,000 12:00 flight well. What brand of luggage do you 782 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,440 use? I have an amazing set of luggage 783 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,840 from Tustings and it is there. Beautiful cream canvas with 784 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,560 brown leather and I have my little clue on it. 785 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,520 Are you a good Packer or bad Packer? 786 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560 I'm a really good Packer. And if you're going for longer 787 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,680 than overnight, how many bags do you take? 788 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,480 Probably 1 big one and then another one for kind of 789 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,000 accessories and shoes and stuff. In your wardrobe, what, if 790 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,560 anything, do you feel you've got an excessive amount of? 791 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,920 I I must have over 100 white shirts at this point. 792 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,640 And denims. High waisted denims. 793 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,280 And denim brands. Lots frame. 794 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,360 Yeah, frame. They do great denim. 795 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,680 Guilty Secret What's the most expensive item of clothing or 796 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,400 accessory that you've bought? I'm not asking for the price 797 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,360 tag. A vintage Chanel Big red Chanel 798 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,520 padded bag. Yeah, it's gorgeous. 799 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,600 That's big. Let's talk about no, but that's 800 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,760 quite sustainable. That's vintage that I, I can, I 801 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,320 can applaud you for that. One, I bought it when I had the 802 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,000 restaurants and I was working so hard. 803 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,480 I had no life and I was. I was like a treat to self. 804 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,440 It was a treat to self. Now for someone who is quoted as 805 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,600 saying I'm not the kind of person who has expensive 806 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,840 handbags or designer labels. No, I'm not, I'm really not. 807 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,560 I mean, and I bought that back when I didn't really know myself 808 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:33,400 and I'm not like I would like it doesn't fill my mind, you know, 809 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,680 and a lot of people are like working for something. 810 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,320 I think what gets me more excited, like I like in this 811 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,440 genuine in my heart and my sleeve, and this is very boring 812 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,920 probably, but I would get more excited about saving up to get 813 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,640 like new trees. That gets me so excited. 814 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,000 So for every birthday I only one tree. 815 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,880 So how it always buys me trees for my birthday. 816 00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:57,840 I can mature pair ones which are fantastic. 817 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,520 So you have you know, it's hard to get them. 818 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,240 They're expensive, the mature pair or quince or whatever. 819 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,400 And I love I've got a whole area where I'm keep plotting more and 820 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,400 more and more and I get honestly, it gives me like 821 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,920 endless joy seeing them. And so all my money that I spend 822 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,440 goes on goes on plants, planting plants. 823 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,280 What are you wearing in the garden? 824 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,320 What was I wearing this weekend? I was wearing black skinnies 825 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,000 because they can you can move. I've got ones that are like half 826 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,440 cotton, half denim, so I can move like freely in them. 827 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,200 And then I like wearing like linen shirts. 828 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,880 So I had like a blue and white spin striped linen shirt that's 829 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,360 really breathable. And in our farm in broad spear 830 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,640 we have like this whole Woodlands was like in honor 831 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,280 property, the most beautiful woods and I love trees. 832 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,920 And then only recently I learned to a friend about fungi and all 833 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,360 the world of fungi underneath the surface that connects all 834 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,960 the root trees together and and I became obsessed with it. 835 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,920 It was actually Bob Geldof. He was down staying and we were 836 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,360 out in the woods and he was teaching me all about the fungi 837 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,080 and all the rat. And I became like obsessed with 838 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,400 it. So I started doing it and he was 839 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,680 like, you've got to get into, you know, getting your hands in 840 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,840 there and feeling it and et cetera. 841 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,880 So I started doing forest bathing, which is they do it in 842 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,040 Japan and it's an organized thing in Japan. 843 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,160 But if you live in the countryside, it doesn't have to 844 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,560 be organized. All you have to do is go out to 845 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,640 the woods and just dig yourself in. 846 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,520 You lie into the ground, like dig yourself in, push away the 847 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,280 leaves. You really feeling it and dig 848 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,360 your hands into the soil so you're feeling the clenched 849 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,920 soil. Don't worry about creepy 850 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,840 crawlies. And you do a breathing 851 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,680 technique. I do meditation every day, 852 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,960 sometimes twice a day, and I've been doing that for a long time 853 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,920 so I can get into his own quite fast. 854 00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:59,320 If you can't get into his own quite fast or you're not, you 855 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,400 haven't taught yourself and you're not doing it ritually 856 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,720 every day. Just to have a guided meditation 857 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:08,600 beside you and just feel it. It's amazing the energy that you 858 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,760 feel and knowing that you're being cared for by all of this 859 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,480 fungi and the trees, like they are there caring for us and 860 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:23,160 without them we do not exist. On that sort of lovely note of 861 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:28,560 nature and the planet, what what's your approach to 862 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,240 sustainable fashion? I mean, my approach to it is 863 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:38,720 that I try and not even though I do get sent a lot, I try and not 864 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:43,120 get sent as much. I only or if I'm buying, I only 865 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:48,320 buy what I really, really need. I rewear as much as I can and 866 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,520 then when I'm not wearing it or I'm not wearing it anymore, I go 867 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,360 through my clothes and I give it to the girls who are working for 868 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,960 me or a family or into a charity store. 869 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,600 Like I do mind about like the clothes, the amount of clothes, 870 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,480 like it. I do think about where is that 871 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,600 coming from? Who is making that, you know? 872 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,400 Yeah. Conscious. 873 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,720 Conscious. Conscious consumption. 874 00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,800 Let's spin on some quick fire questions. 875 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,520 OK, What fashion advice would you give your 20 year old self? 876 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,080 Have fun. Which fashion trend would you 877 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,000 like to see make a comeback? 70s. 878 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,520 Funny that. Which fashion of beauty trend 879 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,480 would you consign to room One O 1? 880 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,840 90s. Your last impulse by. 881 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,600 As in shoulder pads, was that 90s? 882 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,120 No, that was 80s. There's 80s OK shoulder pads, 883 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,160 eighties, 80s your. Views on tattoos. 884 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,440 I really don't like them unless they're tiny and they're 885 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,440 written. I don't mind the ones on the 886 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,280 wrist. I know I'm not a tattoo person. 887 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,200 Beauty treatment you couldn't give up. 888 00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:59,680 Oh, got a pedicure for sure. I love pedicures. 889 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,120 I could have one every other day. 890 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,080 Oh. Heavenly I. 891 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,160 Love a pedicure? High end or High Street? 892 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,080 Ah both. Bling or bear? 893 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,240 Bear. Minimalism or maximalism? 894 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:17,400 Minimalism. Crocs cute or puke puke as a 895 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,520 chef. I know, sorry, I wore them for 896 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,040 years. Skinnies, boyfriends or wide 897 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,320 legs? Wide legs. 898 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,160 Bodycon or boho? Padi Khan or Boho Boho? 899 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:35,640 Sports Lux or Rock chick? Rock chick, Red Carpet or Relax? 900 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,480 Relax. Trend or style? 901 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,680 Style. Colour or monochrome? 902 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,920 Monochrome. Experimental or uniform? 903 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,800 Oh, I want to be experimental, but somehow I feel like I'm 904 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,080 uniform. Hoarder or editor? 905 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,000 Editor. Shapewear or sexy lingerie? 906 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,560 Oh, sexy lingerie. Tights or stockings? 907 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,360 Stockings. Bikini or one piece? 908 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,880 Oh, depends on how I'm feeling. Beanie or Berry? 909 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,920 A beanie or oh, Berry. And finally, at the end of the 910 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,600 day, what do you or don't you wear in bed? 911 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,520 I wear my debonair pajamis. I love pajamis. 912 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,040 Cloder, what a joy to spend this time with you. 913 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,640 Thank you. You've been an incredible guest. 914 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,000 And let's tuck into your Just delicious. 915 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,560 Yeah, let's have cake. Gotta feel like I've learned 916 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,360 something about myself. Oh, that is just heaven. 917 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,760 I'm now. Going to get a Bray. 918 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,520 Are you good?