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That's simple dot life forward 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,160 slash Amanda and as an added bonus, you can use the code 13 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:49,480 Amanda at checkout for an amazing 70% off your plan. 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,600 Today I'm going on a style journey with the world renowned 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,760 self development coach, inspirational speaker, 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,800 manifesting expert and three times Sunday Times bestselling 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,680 author Roxy Nafusi. Hello and welcome. 18 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,360 Roxy, thank you so much for having me. 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,160 It's. Lovely to have you here. 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,720 It really is. Now you're the author of three 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,920 books on manifesting, selling over 1,000,000 copies worldwide, 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,560 and you've got your 4th book releasing in March. 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,400 Confidence. 8 Steps to knowing your worth. 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,080 Now I love the sound of that and I'd love to understand sort of 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,400 what's behind it. What was the inspiration behind 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,320 this book? Oh, oh, this is fun. 27 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:37,960 This is the first time I've spoken about it. 28 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:39,800 Really great. Yeah. 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:45,960 So, you know, I think from my own personal journey, I have 30 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:48,360 never experienced what it's like to be confident. 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,160 I mean, I had severe self loathing since my earliest 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,720 years. And I remember from as young as 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,280 seven looking in the mirror and thinking I am ugly, like I am 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,760 horrible and always felt like I was an outsider. 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,199 I was different and really lacked any self worth. 36 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:12,640 And that kind of took me into years of toxic relationships, 37 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:16,760 drug addiction, you know, anything I could do to try and 38 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:22,040 find some value or validation or, or just to feel like I liked 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,160 myself even for a second. And it was only when I 40 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,760 discovered manifestation in 2018 that I think things began to 41 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,560 change for me because I realized that manifesting was all about 42 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,960 self worth and I had none. So I sort of began, sort of 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,920 began this journey of self development, healing, of course, 44 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:43,960 manifestation using my 7th step guide to manifesting. 45 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,440 And the greatest gift that manifesting I think gave me was 46 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,360 this renewed sense of confidence. 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,240 And it became, I realized that sort of manifesting in 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,360 confidence are like really deeply intertwined because the 49 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,240 more confident you are, the more powerful you manifest. 50 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,720 And the more that you go on a manifestation journey, the more 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,240 you're inadvertently going on a confidence journey as well. 52 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,640 And I would say that in the last sort of year or two years, the 53 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:15,560 confidence I have is so for me, mind blowing. 54 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,760 You know, I never thought it would be possible to walk in. 55 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,840 So I, so I say that confidence to me is walking into a room and 56 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,160 walking out of it, not worrying what everyone else thought of 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,040 you. It's like being able to be 58 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,480 unapologetically yourself and be OK with who you are, like 59 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,840 wholeheartedly, imperfections and all. 60 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,840 And to have reached that place myself, I know how profoundly 61 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,760 life changing it is. You know, that feeds into every 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,800 area of my life, whether it's at work and being able to stand up 63 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,480 for myself or take risks or in my relationships or when dating 64 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,920 or no matter what area of my life it is. 65 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,960 Confidence has empowered me to live better and feel better. 66 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,840 And so I realized that actually there was a formula so that as 67 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,760 well I wanted to bring it to the world because I want everyone to 68 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,800 experience this and know that most people suffer with low self 69 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,560 worth and low confidence. I, I think everyone have has 70 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,880 those wobbly moments of not feeling worthy or not feeling 71 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,279 confident and I, and I'm so glad that you're bringing your voice 72 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,480 and your knowledge to that because you're a very, very 73 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,960 skilled communicator. And where, Thank you. 74 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,480 Where did that come from? That's very kind. 75 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,040 I don't know. I don't know. 76 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,280 I think I've always loved giving people advice and I think even 77 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:40,800 as a child I was older than my years. 78 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,160 And I think that she did me a disservice as a child because 79 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,480 that's probably part of why I struggled to fit in. 80 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Maybe. But yeah, I think writing, 81 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,760 speaking, it's just where I'm in flow state and I feel most 82 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,120 connected to my purpose. So I don't know. 83 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,040 Because it takes a hell of a lot of confidence to get up in front 84 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,040 of hundreds of people. I mean, how? 85 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,480 What's the biggest audience you've ever 2? 86 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,880 Thousand. Yeah. 87 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,640 Whoa, Roxy. Yeah. 88 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,640 I love it. I come alive. 89 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,200 It's a hell of a lot of confidence to do that. 90 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,240 How, where, where did that confidence come from? 91 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,560 Because you're saying on one hand, you struggled with your, 92 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,480 you know, self esteem and then you're getting up on stage in 93 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,080 front of 200, sorry, 2000 sets of eyes. 94 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,480 That's a lot of a lot of chutzpah. 95 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,760 Yeah. Do you know, it's a few things. 96 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,480 I think one thing is I think that we underestimate how 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,720 important it is to find something that we feel drives us 98 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,000 and makes us feel like we're of value and that we have something 99 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,600 to offer the world around us. And for me, that was inspiring 100 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,400 people with my message and it didn't. 101 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,480 I think what gate, what the reason I was able to do it so 102 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,680 confidently is because in the way that I present myself on 103 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,520 stage, I allow myself to be imperfect. 104 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,560 So for example, like I just did a show Alexandra Palace, the mic 105 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,040 stopped working. I got an itchy nose halfway 106 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,200 through. I fucked up my lines once or 107 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,080 twice and I completely owned those moments. 108 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,720 To me, I just made a joke of it. I laughed at it and carried on. 109 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,040 And I realized that being able to be imperfect and not get it 110 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,760 right, it doesn't matter. Like the audience don't care. 111 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,560 They're not looking at every single thing that you do and 112 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,280 wondering, you know, if you don't say one word right or you 113 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:35,360 forget what you're saying, that they're going to judge you. 114 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,760 And giving, giving myself that permission to be vulnerable, I 115 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,600 think allowed me to show up more confidently on stage. 116 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,720 But also, a lot of my work is about stepping outside your 117 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,760 comfort zone, doing hard things, challenging yourself, showing 118 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,640 yourself that you can do the things that you might not have 119 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,680 thought you could do. And there's so much confidence 120 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,400 to be built through doing that. So yeah, I think honestly, it's 121 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,320 a common, it's lots of things, but I think it's mostly I follow 122 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,080 the advice that I share with people and and that does help me 123 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,200 and I, I mean, I love talking on stage. 124 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Well, you're, you're brilliant at it and you do it with such 125 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:20,280 presence and such grace. Did you did you have any lessons 126 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,720 in presenting? No, I've never had any training 127 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,720 like that, but a lot of practice. 128 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,320 And like, if you compare how I am now to how I was at the 129 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,840 beginning, I mean, I'm worlds better. 130 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Like I wouldn't say when I started I was really good, but I 131 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,720 was really passionate and I really wanted to improve and I 132 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,920 was really willing to keep trying, even though it wasn't 133 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,720 necessarily I wasn't the best at the beginning. 134 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,800 I'm not saying I'm the best now, but I'm a hell of a lot better, 135 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,640 you know? So I think, yeah, it's like I 136 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,440 said earlier, about having a willingness to be imperfect. 137 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,440 It's also, and I talk about this in my new book, it's about 138 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,120 having an openness to know that you're not the best at something 139 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,920 but be willing to try anyway. And it's it's a lot how kids 140 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,760 are. You know, kids know they're not 141 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,160 maybe the best at riding a bike when they first start. 142 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,320 They know they're going to fail a few times and know they're not 143 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,120 going to get it right. But they keep trying anyway 144 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,240 until they master it. And I think it's bringing that 145 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,240 back to us. I mean, you're on a new chapter 146 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:23,880 2 in that you've launched a a podcast Rise with Roxy. 147 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:30,600 What inspired that? Well, you know, I'm kind of part 148 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,600 of my own journey of growth is that I'm constantly trying to 149 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,080 learn from other people and really like, I never stopped 150 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,919 learning And I, I love immersing myself in self development and 151 00:08:40,919 --> 00:08:45,240 people's stories and their journeys and you know, the 152 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,760 things that have helped them transform their world and 153 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,360 inspire people around them. So I've always had I, I am 154 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:57,120 genuinely interested in that And, and I felt that a podcast 155 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,320 was something that my audience had sort of asked for, but I 156 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,680 thought, to be honest, I thought it's saturated. 157 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,240 They don't need another podcast. I'm not going to what if I'm no 158 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,960 good? I kind of all the fears that I 159 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,080 had about having a podcast took over. 160 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,880 And then I thought about what I would tell everyone else to do, 161 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,440 which is, well, if you're, if you're, if fear is the only 162 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,920 thing that's stopping you, then you absolutely have to do it. 163 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,520 So I was like, fuck it, I'll do it. 164 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:27,600 And the first few episodes and again I, I talk about the story 165 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,280 in my that for the first few episodes I was as rubbish as I 166 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,000 thought I'd be. You know, I was so nervous, I 167 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,880 was awkward, my voice didn't sound natural. 168 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,040 I was really on edge because I, the first few people I 169 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,000 interviewed were like my heroes and self development like Jay 170 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,840 Shetty and Tara Swarton, Marissa Pierre and you know, I love 171 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,120 those people and I look up to them so much. 172 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,640 So I was nervous and I wasn't that great, you know? 173 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,560 Oh, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to take that because I 174 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:58,160 listened to the Jay Shetty 1 and you were great. 175 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,400 So thank you. You need to rise above that. 176 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,480 No, but you know, I think even though it wasn't and how I would 177 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,160 have viewed it as being good enough, let's say, it was still 178 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,560 a really impactful conversation and it still was worth sharing 179 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:17,840 with the world. And if I had let my fear, you 180 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,080 know, stop me, then I wouldn't have been able to share Jay's 181 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,400 wisdom or Tara's wisdom. So yeah, again. 182 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,680 And another example of where you can feel fear, you can feel 183 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:31,560 self-conscious, you can feel worried, but just do it anyway 184 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,560 and see what happened. And you do grow. 185 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:38,120 That is my favorite, favorite sort of mantra is, you know, 186 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,560 feel the fear and just do it anyhow because that's how we 187 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:42,880 grow. Absolutely. 188 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,160 Now talking about grow and growing up, you grew up in 189 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,920 Oxfordshire but you were born in Saudi Arabia. 190 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,920 Was that a huge culture shock coming over here? 191 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,360 I was only six months when I came over, but we left in quite 192 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:05,760 sudden circumstances, and my mom was in a very deep depression. 193 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,400 Her mom had just passed away. She didn't really know any 194 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,880 English, had four kids. My dad got a job in Oxford. 195 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,720 Yeah, it was definitely like, not a great time for our family. 196 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,960 And I'm Iraqi. Both my parents are Iraqi and 197 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,160 definitely, you know, I think from a very young age, I mean, 198 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,280 as you start, I see it with Wolf now, you know, he's at 5 S at 199 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,080 that age, you start to notice the differences in you, right, 200 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,400 And how you compare, you start to compare yourself to other 201 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,520 kids. So, you know, I started noticing 202 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,040 that we ate different food, for example, that we didn't 203 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,720 celebrate Christmas. Like culturally things are very 204 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,120 different at home to how my friends were living. 205 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,360 All the people in my school were living. 206 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,640 So what happened was I started becoming very rejected from the 207 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,800 people who were in my class, especially when the Iraqi war 208 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,400 broke out and Iraqis were sort of deemed, you know, the devil 209 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,280 on an Islamophobia was so rife. So there was kind of this 210 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,240 rejection from my peers. But then I was rejecting my home 211 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,440 life because I felt so embarrassed about it. 212 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,800 So I really felt like I didn't belong anywhere. 213 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,400 And it was definitely, you know, I changed my name from Rowan to 214 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,120 Roxy when I moved schools. I I read that, Yeah. 215 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,880 How? How did Roxy come about? 216 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,120 I just wanted to not seem so Arabic. 217 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,880 I was moving schools because I had been so, so badly bullied 218 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,200 and I was like, how can I make myself not seem Arabic because I 219 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:30,200 was so ashamed and I was like, it could have been rocky. 220 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:32,480 It was a close. Call, I'm really glad I went 221 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,400 with Roxy, but you know, when I look back, that really was where 222 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,800 I began this like rejection of myself. 223 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,760 And I think that shame is such an again, I do talk about it in 224 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,560 the new book, but I think a lot of us can carry shame around 225 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:52,320 certain parts of ourselves. And that shame really is a is 226 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,240 such a block to us being able to actually live as authentically 227 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,560 and confidently as we can. So it's about really owning all 228 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:03,560 the different parts of you. And it was only when I got older 229 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:06,760 that I really began to actually embrace my culture, love it, 230 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,880 feel proud of it, and start to heal that part of myself. 231 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,560 Because that shame can manifest itself, sorry, pardon pen, but 232 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:20,800 in, in all sorts of different ways, whether it's body image or 233 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,400 the color of our skin or, you know, the color of our hair or 234 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,480 whatever it is. And, and it can be, it can be 235 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,160 very invasive, can't it? Yeah. 236 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,200 Yeah, it's a horrible feeling. I think people don't talk about 237 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,680 it enough and it's really it. It could be about sexuality, it 238 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:42,360 can be where we're from, it can be our upbringing, but I think 239 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,800 as long as we're hiding a part of ourselves, we're never going 240 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,160 to be able to flourish. Yeah, no, I I think very, very 241 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,560 true. Today we're going on a style 242 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,520 journey together, So can you just tell me about what you're 243 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,400 wearing? Oh, yes, I can. 244 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,200 I actually, Oh, oh fuck. I don't know where anything's 245 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,960 from. I'm wearing something which I 246 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,800 think is so edgy and I don't know if I'm pulling it off or 247 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,480 we're trying. We're going. 248 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,520 To pulling it off. Wearing a skirt and trouser look 249 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,160 from Capernai and then my jumper is from Shoe Tong, I think. 250 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,800 Is that right? I've got them. 251 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,360 Do you know my? We haven't even taken the label 252 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,480 out. Shoe Tong. 253 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,680 OK, can I just say my worst habit? 254 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,600 Bear in mind I'm like a hyper efficient, very organized 255 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,680 person. I always forget to take my 256 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,200 labels out and Claudia on my team is like, for fuck sake, you 257 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,920 have your labels in again and it's not by the way, because I'm 258 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,400 planning on returning them. I just forget and it's the one. 259 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,440 It's like my bad habit. I just. 260 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,640 So when do the labels eventually come out? 261 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,800 When either they fall it out or somebody like Claudia has forced 262 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,320 me, she'll be mortified. I love it. 263 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,360 And then you had a fabulous, really oversized coating. 264 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,280 Yeah, it's a wardrobe NYC from it was the net Porter sale. 265 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,720 It was down like 70%. So you're a savvy shopper, so 266 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,880 were you very aware of your mother's style as you were 267 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,720 growing up? Oh God, no, no, you know, 268 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,560 actually I've I think I've raised speaking on this, but my 269 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,440 mom wore black until I was 16 because I think she was still a 270 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:25,760 morning. She was a very unhappy person 271 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,920 and had a lot of, you know, I don't want to be too 272 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,960 disrespectful because she's still alive and I love her so 273 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,120 much. But she she just wore black. 274 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:42,240 She gained so much weight. She wore a headscarf, but she 275 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,240 wore like a bandana wrapped around before she moved to 276 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,040 wearing more of a traditional headscarf. 277 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,480 And I remember actually always feeling and sadly quite 278 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,520 embarrassed of my mom growing up, I think because she would 279 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,680 wear her headscarf and someone had like teased, teased her when 280 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,760 I was at school about it. And, you know, and a lot of my 281 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,560 friends had these quite glamorous moms, and they might 282 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,520 borrow their mom's clothes. But if I can stop you right 283 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,920 there, all of those people that had those Uber glamorous moms, 284 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,360 they were all ashamed at the time at the school gate. 285 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,800 I can. Absolutely every single guest 286 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,640 virtually I've had on this podcast has said in retrospect, 287 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,240 I realized how glamorous my mother was at the time. 288 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,320 She made me cringe. That's so funny. 289 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,800 No, Yeah. So I definitely didn't get any. 290 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,280 Style. Tips from her or anyone in my 291 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,120 family for that matter. I was going to say, was your 292 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,800 father very. Oh my God, no. 293 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,160 God bless him. Like the most simple, humble 294 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,280 man. Would never like if I'd asked 295 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,400 him. Like Dad, you know what, like 296 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,680 Hugo bosses, he'd be like, who's he? 297 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,800 You know, like he wore, he would go to like the school uniform, 298 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,040 charity sales and buy clothes from there. 299 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Even though he was an incredibly successful businessman, he just 300 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,720 liked the simple life. And yeah, he never he will 301 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,400 quite. He was probably the most 302 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,240 unfashionable person I've ever met in my life. 303 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Did you wear a school uniform? Yeah, yeah, I did. 304 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,560 But you know, especially when you're like 13, you know, it was 305 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,280 rolling up. I. 306 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,880 Was going to say, did you any rebellious moment? 307 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,560 Oh yeah, always as short and short and short as you can. 308 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,200 I really was desperate for men's attention at school. 309 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,160 Sort of short skirts. There was that whole phase of, 310 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,760 you know, when you have your lace French knickers hanging out 311 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,400 your tracksuit bottoms. I'm a slightly different 312 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,960 generation to you. Was we really went for it? 313 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,160 Yeah. I mean, I went through that many 314 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,000 different phases growing up in terms of style. 315 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,800 And when do you think you really discovered your passion for 316 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:46,040 fashion? I think, you know, fashion has 317 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,920 always been a sort of like mask. I think because I think 318 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,800 especially growing up, it's very much, it can be a bit of a 319 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,960 status thing. You want to feel cool, you know, 320 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,760 whether when I was 12 and I wanted to buy skater jeans from 321 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,200 Rhodes, do you know what I mean? Or Vans, you know, I think there 322 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,800 was that. And so I was probably liked 323 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:09,240 fashion for the wrong reasons for a lot for a long time, but 324 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,880 it's probably only again in the last year or two that I found 325 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,400 what suits me and felt started to actually take more care in my 326 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,120 wardrobes and my outfit. So a big part I think of like, 327 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:25,520 let's say, manifesting your higher self or stepping into 328 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,120 your most empowered self. I think such a big part of this 329 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:31,360 is about the way that you dress. And again, so I keep referring 330 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:35,000 to the book, but in step AI talk about dressing the part as part 331 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,160 of this way that you can show up as your future self. 332 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,520 And alongside that big part of the manifestation journey is 333 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,880 letting go. So it's letting go of all things 334 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,320 that don't serve you. So whether it's bad habits, 335 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,200 behaviors, people, but I think also the kind of clothes that 336 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,680 don't represent who you are anymore or who you want to 337 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,440 become. So big thing that I did like a 338 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,080 year and a half ago, but now I do it all the time, is I would 339 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:07,080 do mass wardrobe clear outs and I would really kind of with each 340 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,080 piece, I would ask myself, would my future self really wear this? 341 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,200 Like think about the person I want to become. 342 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,160 Are they stepping out of the house wearing this? 343 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,560 And so that was really big for me. 344 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,360 So I started doing that, but I'm still evolving and still pushing 345 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:22,640 myself further and further because I've had a habit 346 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,880 recently of wearing my Ugg slippers every fucking day and 347 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,840 I've got to stop. Now, during those wardrobe clear 348 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,920 outs or edits, did you do those on your own or did you have 349 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,160 someone there to bounce off or a stylist or? 350 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,600 No, on my own. I mean, I love it. 351 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,880 I think they're so satisfying. And then I have bags for 352 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,120 charity, bags for vintage and I'm ruthless. 353 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:54,520 When you pull together a a look that you feel your future self 354 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,240 in, your best self in, do you? Do you? 355 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,240 Then photograph it. Or do you just remember? 356 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,000 It no, I just remember what I've got because I also think I'm not 357 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,040 a pre planner when it comes to Lux. 358 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,720 So are you a mood dresser? Yeah, I think it's absolutely 359 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,560 sort of how am I feeling today? What am I going to wear? 360 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,680 I never like every time I have my glam down for of an event, a 361 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,520 talk, whatever. My sister's down to him always 362 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,320 like, what are you wearing today? 363 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,080 And I'm like, as usual, no idea. I'll figure out after I've had 364 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,880 my glam down and then I see how I feel. 365 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,800 Now then, let's talk about why have you been living in your Ugg 366 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,360 slippers? Because there must be a 367 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,640 connection. There what it is I feel that 368 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:38,440 because for so much of my job, I'm like on, you know, like on 369 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:43,720 stage or on camera or on when I'm not, I just love to be as 370 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,640 comfy and cozy as possible. And I think coziness and comfort 371 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,880 is is really one of my like. Top priorities. 372 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:59,720 So what is cocooning at home? Chill out Roxy wearing apart 373 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,160 from the Ugg slippers. Apart from the Ugg slippers, my 374 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,880 cashmere socks everyday, a really nice warm, cosy 375 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,000 tracksuit. I got one recently from Madeline 376 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,760 Thompson Thompson, which was gorgeous. 377 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,840 Yeah, that's it. Just comfort. 378 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,080 And it is texture very important as part of that. 379 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,680 I yeah, anything soft, soft and cozy. 380 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,320 And thing is, Wolf is the same as me. 381 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,960 He loves soft cozy things. So as well, if I'm wearing 382 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,000 something soft, he cannot stop cuddling me. 383 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,600 Oh, I love that. Did you remember your very 384 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:43,360 earliest sort of clothing memory when you put something on and it 385 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,160 just transformed how you felt? Yeah, I think it was these 386 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,640 missed 60 jeans. They were great, weren't they? 387 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,680 They were so good. I think I was about 12 and my 388 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,880 friend had them. And so I finally went and got 389 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,960 them and I just, they were quite skinny and and they were low 390 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,160 waisted, but they were quite skinny jeans. 391 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,600 And I'd been wearing skater jeans up until that point. 392 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,360 And I remember thinking, oh, I feel quite good in these. 393 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,440 Yeah. Yeah. 394 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,040 And how old were you at the time? 395 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,520 About 12, did you say? Yeah. 396 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Fascinating. Fascinating. 397 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,000 But well for your son. He's he's aware of texture. 398 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,160 Yeah, he loves clothes, he loves fashion. 399 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,680 He loves choosing my outfit. Tells me off if I he keeps 400 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,960 telling me off wearing the slippers. 401 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,680 Do you listen to his opinion on if you're trying on? 402 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,480 Is he in your wardrobe with you trying on or in your bedroom? 403 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,960 Yeah. He'll be in my wardrobe like, 404 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,200 bless him. He's so cute. 405 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,280 He he loves it. He'll tell me if I shouldn't 406 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,760 wear jeans too much. He's like, really honestly even 407 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,000 like Wade was getting ready the other day and he was like, 408 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,040 Daddy, you need a belt with that. 409 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,200 And I was like, you're actually right. 410 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,920 A belt would really complete that outfit. 411 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,120 You know he loves it. If you were unsure of an outfit, 412 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:54,480 yeah. Who do you? 413 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,280 Whose opinion do you most trust? Oh good. 414 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,160 Question. I will always send it to Wade, 415 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,760 although he sometimes can be a real fashion bitch. 416 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,040 In what way too critical. I had this we me send me this 417 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,520 like amazing outfit to wear for Paris Fashion Week and I loved 418 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,840 it. And he was like, well, you just 419 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,160 look like you're in a fucking nappy. 420 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,040 And I was like, it's actually really cool. 421 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,000 Like he doesn't, you know, men, someones don't get it, don't get 422 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,680 the fashion moments, but I will. I do trust his advice. 423 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,920 Yeah. Because we first met at a party 424 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,800 that I hosted in my May 1st order. 425 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,760 I was wearing a leather dress, Yeah. 426 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,320 And it was one of my favourite, favorite outfits. 427 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,600 And I remember feeling so chic in it. 428 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,000 And I was so honoured that you dressed me and I I lived for 429 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,960 that outfit. Oh gorgeous. 430 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:52,120 You've talked quite openly about being a bit lost before you 431 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:57,360 discovered manifesting, so let's talk about how your style has 432 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:01,560 evolved during your manifesting journey. 433 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,520 Honestly, I am mortified by 99% of the outfits that I have worn 434 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,880 in the past. Honest. 435 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,880 Oh my God, no. Honestly, they were awful. 436 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,720 And I don't, I think I don't feel sad about it. 437 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,000 It's like I laugh at it, but I really didn't know how to dress 438 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,560 for myself. And I think that I think because 439 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:26,840 my priority was male attention, because I felt I had no self 440 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,520 worth, I didn't think that I would ever be successful in my 441 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,480 own right. I didn't think I would be good 442 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,400 enough to have a like good career. 443 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,880 I didn't feel I just didn't feel good enough full stop. 444 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,200 So I felt as I was only as worthy as the man I was with. 445 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,600 And so for me, attracting men was a real priority. 446 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,840 And it's couldn't be farther from the truth now, but it was 447 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,720 then. And so I think in that really 448 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,640 impacted my dressing and I probably dressed, I just think I 449 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,600 dressed in a way that was not chic. 450 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,960 It wasn't demure, it wasn't it wasn't cool. 451 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,040 I think it was a bit tacky and but I think that was so 452 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,240 reflective of where I was in my life. 453 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,560 And so I think that my, the style growth has been really 454 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,600 about aligning myself with who I am now and representing me in a 455 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,440 different way. But I still like to dress 456 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,240 feminine and you know, because because I work a lot, I don't 457 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,800 get many opportunities to feel like sexy or feminine or do you 458 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,640 know? So actually when I have an 459 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,440 opportunity to, I love it because actually it's only 460 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,840 through wearing like a really amazing dress or outfit, I can 461 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,360 express that side of myself. I mean, you, you talk about your 462 00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:44,640 mother was a very demure dresser. 463 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:52,000 Do you ever, you know, does that ever come into your thinking now 464 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,640 in, in terms of your wardrobe choices? 465 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,760 In the fact you meet she was more covered up. 466 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,240 Yeah. No, no, probably not. 467 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:08,760 No, but I don't, I never try to. I think it's just a different 468 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,080 perspective on dressing now maybe, but I don't mind. 469 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,640 Like, I love a naked dress and but I think there's a way that 470 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,720 you can do it that makes it still feel like you're in your 471 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,760 power. Like it's dressing for me to 472 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,160 feel sexy rather than, you know, having, you know, then for 473 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,800 somebody else to find me sexy, if that makes sense. 474 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:33,240 You obviously the title of your next book is confidence, and you 475 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,760 do seem incredibly confident now, especially when I compare 476 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,360 you to the Roxy that I met during London Fashion Week many 477 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,600 years ago. But I think we all have those 478 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,280 less confident days. And what do you find yourself 479 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,320 reaching for when you want to feel empowered? 480 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,840 What empowers you clothing wise? Good question. 481 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,280 A good shoulder pad, you know, I really like that kind of like 482 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,160 structured shoulder pad with something high waisted and a 483 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,800 nice powerful jacket. You know, I love a good 484 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,320 overcoat, something I can always just like, not hide underneath. 485 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,360 But yeah, it just feels feels good. 486 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:14,120 Yeah. Yeah. 487 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:16,920 And. Where are you at on yourself 488 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,840 Love journey would you say? I mean, it's just incomparable 489 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,200 to where it was. And I do feel really confident 490 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,480 in who I am. Like I, I have so much more 491 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,600 respect for myself. I feel really proud of myself 492 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,040 and I feel like I'm of value to the world and that's a really 493 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,920 beautiful feeling. And it's not to say that I don't 494 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,040 have days where self doubt creeps in, of course I do. 495 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,520 But they don't overwhelm me in the way they used to. 496 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,760 And I think that's the difference. 497 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,920 I think before if I had a day where I was feeling 498 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,560 self-conscious or I was worried that people didn't like me or 499 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,760 whatever it was, I think it would oh, just destroying my 500 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,360 whole day or week. And I would ruinate on those 501 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:02,240 thoughts for a long time and it would, it would have a real 502 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,240 impact on my day-to-day. Whereas now if those thoughts 503 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,560 come in, I can, I'm actually so much more aware of them 504 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,680 objectively. I can look at them and go, OK, 505 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,160 well, is that true? I can question them and then 506 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,000 move up forward and feel better, you know, if my comeback is much 507 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,680 quicker, essentially. Now I know you're very conscious 508 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,440 about which side you're filmed on, me sitting in your seat and 509 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:32,560 you sitting in my seat, but that is obviously something you're 510 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,880 very aware. Of. 511 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,400 And you just, you just know your boundaries with it. 512 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,360 Yeah, I think it's that I do these kind of interviews quite 513 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,680 often. I'm on camera a fair bit more 514 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,360 than I'd probably like to be because it's not my favorite 515 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,400 thing to be on camera. I'm much prefer being behind the 516 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,880 camera for like I love my day job, whereas like this stuff I 517 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,200 still really enjoy because I love getting my message out. 518 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,640 But being on camera isn't my favorite thing. 519 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,280 And I also know that I prefer this side of my face. 520 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,600 And so when I see the content back, I'll probably feel better 521 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,120 than I would on the other side. And so I just think, why not put 522 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,000 things in position that will make me feel as good as I can, 523 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,760 not make me feel so nervous and anxious about it. 524 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,520 Because I think if I sat on the other side, I'd be thinking, Oh 525 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,240 my God, absolutely disgusting. And it doesn't matter if that's 526 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,960 true or not. I just know that it's more 527 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,280 likely to spike my anxiety or nerves. 528 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,240 And so why can't I just put some boundaries in place that, for 529 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,400 example, I won't ever be on camera the week before my 530 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,360 period. That's another thing I won't do 531 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,840 because I know that we performed you on, I will be really puffy. 532 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,040 My insecurities will be louder just because of my hormonal 533 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,480 changes. I won't feel as good And so I 534 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,960 won't enjoy it as much. So I don't do that. 535 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,240 And it is just these little things that you can do to help 536 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,240 you feel better and, and be aware that you know, those those 537 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,960 kind of doubtful thoughts or moments of insecurity, then 538 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,600 you're not going to get rid of them all together. 539 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,920 I mean especially I've lived so much of my life where they're so 540 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,160 ingrained, minded me that moments of stress or tiredness, 541 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,880 they will creep back. But what can I do to make myself 542 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,640 put myself in the best position possible? 543 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,040 Yeah, I mean talking about image, where are you at on body 544 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,080 image? I'm good. 545 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,840 I've actually never I haven't had any. 546 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,560 I don't have like any issues with my body. 547 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,520 I've, I think for year, you know, when I was dieting, yo-yo 548 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,640 dieting in my 20s, I had, I was obsessed with weighing myself 549 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,520 every day. Then I gained like 30 kilos when 550 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,040 I was pregnant and when I had a wolf, I went on very extreme 551 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:45,400 diet, like very extreme and then actually got to a point where I 552 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,080 was like, this is insane. Like I'm so exhausted by this. 553 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,400 And then completely relaxed and gained a couple of stone and 554 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,080 didn't care at all. I felt good. 555 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,120 But now I found a much more healthier place with food. 556 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,000 I don't think about it. I don't. 557 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,320 I'm not really restrictive and I don't remember the last time I 558 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,680 looked at my body in the mirror. I simply don't care. 559 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,840 I I'm really so happy with my body and I don't pay any 560 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,080 attention to it. Oh, that, that's wonderful. 561 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,080 But are you, are you a keen Jimmer? 562 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,680 Do you you know? No, not really. 563 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,880 I mean, I I try to do exercise, but I do exercise that I enjoy. 564 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,760 So I do like light yoga, light Pilates, yen yoga, which is just 565 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,600 stretching and that's it. I'm not in that pumping weights 566 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,240 like no, and I'm not, you know, and I eat just things that I 567 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,600 like. I mean, I don't eat processed 568 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,440 food and I don't really refined sugar, but I'm not I'm not 569 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,120 particularly obsessive with with that. 570 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,680 I don't have time. I've chosen my work. 571 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,520 Yeah. But I mean, how do you go about 572 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,360 choosing your clothes for an important event? 573 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,640 For example, do you do you work with a stylist on that? 574 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,800 Sometimes. So for red carpets, definitely I 575 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,400 think it's, I think every event you want to represent like a 576 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,080 different version of yourself. And so I really think it's 577 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,240 important like no matter what you're doing, whether you're 578 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:18,200 going on a date, an interview, a meeting, you know, a talk, 579 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,560 whatever, you know, you have to dress the part for that 580 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,600 occasion. And I think people can sort of 581 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,440 forget the importance of it. So for example, my sister in 582 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,520 Dubai, she was going to go do a talk for a corporate and she 583 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,320 showed me this outfit, which and she's really expressive. 584 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,000 Like she wears like gigantic glasses that cover her whole 585 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,640 face. Like she's very flamboyant and 586 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,320 extra in the way that she dresses. 587 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,520 And I love that because she is just so unapologetic. 588 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,880 She's like, this is me. I love her. 589 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,120 I don't give a fuck if no one else likes it. 590 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,200 And I think that's great. But when it came to a corporate, 591 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,120 I was like, I actually don't think it's appropriate. 592 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,640 I think there's a line where you have to actually dress the 593 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,320 occasion because you do want people to take you seriously and 594 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,400 respect you. And so I think it's about 595 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,360 finding the line of like, what is appropriate for the situation 596 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,800 you're going into, but what also allows you to feel your best and 597 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,080 express yourself. And I think finding a balance in 598 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,800 each situation is really important. 599 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,880 Yeah, so you're, you're saying that you message through your 600 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,840 clothes? Really. 601 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,920 Yeah, yeah. So I saw a lovely video of you 602 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,520 on stage and you were wearing a white jumpsuit. 603 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,560 Yeah. Was it a jumpsuit? 604 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,160 Yeah, it was. So what were you trying to 605 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,080 message through what you were wearing then? 606 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,000 Yeah, so it's so interesting you bring this up because I wore 607 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,840 that for my live show, Alexandra Palace. 608 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,080 And my live shows Alexandra Palace are without doubt the 609 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,880 hardest thing for me to dress for. 610 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,800 Finding the right exact right look is so hard. 611 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,760 And that look came through at 6:00 PM on the Friday the day 612 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,200 before because three other outfits I'd ordered didn't 613 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,120 arrive. But it was perfect. 614 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,680 And it's because for those live shows, I don't want to wear 615 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,520 something that's too corporate because it's not me preaching to 616 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,440 anyone. It's not a corporate talk. 617 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,600 But I don't want to wear a dress because I'm not going on a night 618 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,120 out. And I don't want to wear 619 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,760 anything short because I'm on stage. 620 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:21,199 I want to look demure, but I also want to represent fun and 621 00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,320 energy because the shows are fun. 622 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,000 There's like a lot of humor in them. 623 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,480 There's really good vibes. It's not just sit down and you 624 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,000 know, it's not just a deep conversation. 625 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,560 There is depth to it, but there's also moments of real 626 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,520 lightness. So that works. 627 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,719 That outfit actually ended up being perfect because I felt 628 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,199 demure. I felt chic, but I also felt 629 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,679 like it had that touch of like fun and glamour, which is 630 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,960 exactly what I wanted to portray. 631 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,880 And how do you how do you go about sort of had you just 632 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,480 shopped and shopped, you know, to find that one or had you used 633 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,360 a stylist to call in some different? 634 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,880 That one now I just looked online so a lot. 635 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Of pressure in that. Yeah, don't. 636 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,640 It was actually very stressful. It was very stressful. 637 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,440 When do you feel that you really discovered your personal style 638 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,920 DNAI? Think I'm still discovering it. 639 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,000 Yeah, I've actually just I met with a stylist last week who she 640 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,200 actually styled this look just for some like more day-to-day 641 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,720 look so that I'm not going to my meetings and my Uggs and it's 642 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:27,800 definitely pushing me out my comfort zone a bit like the 643 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,120 skirt trouser look. But it is good. 644 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,360 I'm still trying to find. I'm still trying to like now I 645 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,000 want to level up a bit more into that more kind of everyday, um, 646 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,960 classic look. Plus I kind of dressed depending 647 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,440 on my book colors. So you'll see like when Manifest 648 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,840 was out, I had this like the iconic orange Prada shoes that I 649 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,720 wore everywhere. Honestly the cost per wear was 650 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,160 incredible for that because I wore them to everything for like 651 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,880 3 years and now I'm going into my black and white era, you 652 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,400 know, for confidence. So that's really fun at Chrome. 653 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,400 Yeah, which I love. And you know, fashion was part 654 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,520 of the inspiration behind the colour of the next book because 655 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,040 there's a few reasons why I I designed this cover. 656 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,520 The 1st is that confidence is quite small in it. 657 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,920 And for me it's because confidence doesn't shout, you 658 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,360 know, it's a it's, that's why it's all lower case, because 659 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,160 confidence is a feeling. It's not. 660 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,360 Yeah, it's not about being the loudest in the room. 661 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,320 It's just about knowing your worth, and I chose black because 662 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,800 who doesn't feel the most confident in black? 663 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,080 You know, it's such a bold color, and I think it is when we 664 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,160 feel our best. Interesting. 665 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,360 Do you have a style icon? I have quite a few. 666 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,320 I love Rosie Hunter, Tom Whiteley. 667 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,240 I think she's just effortless chic cool. 668 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,440 I love. I would say actually the the 669 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,360 icon is probably more the stylist is Danny Michelle, who 670 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,760 thinks that all the way she dresses, you know, Hailey 671 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,800 Bieber, Kendall Jenner, that like quiet luxury I love. 672 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,840 And Elsa Hosk is like my number one. 673 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,160 I think every single outfit she wears is unbelievable. 674 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,840 I'd love her whole wardrobe. If someone were to describe your 675 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,400 current style DNA because I get the feeling you're on a style 676 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,280 journey, but your current style DNA in three words, what would 677 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,880 you want those 3 words to be? I would want them to be. 678 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:26,520 Chic, classic, cool. I buy that and we know that your 679 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:32,360 style has changed through the DI, but would you who 680 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:35,400 fundamentally would you say you dress for? 681 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:42,240 I mean, I think I dress for me, you know, I want to feel good 682 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:47,120 and cool and I want to feel empowered. 683 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,960 And yeah, let's say I dress for me. 684 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,240 Is being stylish important to you? 685 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,320 Yeah, I think so. But it's weird because at the 686 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,240 same time, I'm really, I have, I'm so comfortable not being 687 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,240 stylish as well. Like I don't care about walking 688 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:04,280 around. Like, you know, some people 689 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,240 don't want to walk out, you know, without makeup on or in 690 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,520 their worst clothes in case they bump into someone at the 691 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,600 supermarket. Like I actually don't care. 692 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,040 I'm, I'm really comfortable not being stylish, which I know I 693 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,960 shouldn't say on the South podcast, but I am. 694 00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:21,920 But I am comfortable not giving a shit. 695 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,760 But I also love when I do. And so I like having the balance 696 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,360 because it's almost like I get to express different parts of 697 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,040 myself. What's date night proxy wearing 698 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,240 or bring it on. I can't wait for the next date 699 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:40,480 night. Probably like maybe like a lace 700 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,880 body and leather trousers. Yeah, something like that. 701 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,040 A nice black trouser, sexy top, nice heels. 702 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,080 Yeah. Can we talk about hair, makeup 703 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,760 and manicures for a moment? All of those important, clearly. 704 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,200 Yes, definitely. I really struggle with my hair 705 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,760 day-to-day. I've such thick curly hair and 706 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,960 poor, you know, it's very frizzy. 707 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,080 It's like hard to maintain. So if I just straighten it 708 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,400 myself it's not great. But actually to be fair, I have 709 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,760 a great glam team now who I just can't live without. 710 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,640 And manicures. I always get so bio sculpture 711 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,840 but the most amazing, like the most amazing gel, it's not bi AB 712 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,640 or acrylic or anything it's just a gel but it's so strong. 713 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,680 It's the only time my nails don't break that I can go 3 714 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,160 weeks and they won't break and as soon as I go and just do a 715 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,840 normal gel my nails will break. So, but coming back to the glam 716 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,280 team, how often are the glam squad around it show Roxy? 717 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,880 Pretty much every time I do a talk or event. 718 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,280 Oh yeah, quite a lot. Not day-to-day, not quite for a 719 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,880 date night, but everything else, everything I'm on camera and I 720 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,480 think, you know, I do, I think people forget like, you know, my 721 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,440 sister will say, Oh my God, so and so on Instagram. 722 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,240 It's amazing. And I'm like, you've like we 723 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,680 have two hours of glam. Like hair stylist, makeup 724 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,720 artist, stylist, like a lot of work goes into like looking good 725 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:17,880 for one picture. And I think it's unrealistic. 726 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,520 I like I only say that because I hate the idea of people 727 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,400 comparing themselves to somebody who's had spent. 728 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,960 Lots of money and time on glam. It's not achievable day-to-day. 729 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,440 I did not look like that if I do my own hair and makeup like at 730 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,880 all. But I can still feel cool in an 731 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,720 outfit. But. 732 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:38,880 Yeah, tweakment. Where are you at on tweakment? 733 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,800 Oh my God I love Botox. I love Botox. 734 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,360 For me Botox like reshapes my face. 735 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:51,600 So I do it to straighten out my eyebrows because I get this like 736 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,520 this goes, my arch goes up, which I don't like. 737 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,480 So I do love Botox. I get Botox in my chin because 738 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,680 it makes it softer rather than being so pointy, which is like a 739 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,760 real like little hack and that's it. 740 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,680 I don't like filler in the face. I'm not a fan. 741 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:12,040 I've tried it a couple of years ago and I looked not good so I'm 742 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,840 not a fan of filler. But yeah, I do love Botox and 743 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,240 laser treatments and skin treatments. 744 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,160 But a self love. Yeah, yeah. 745 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,920 Let's talk about travel for a moment. 746 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:28,960 Do you have a go to travel look? Oh, it always in travel days, 747 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,640 you know, just tracksuit bottoms. 748 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,080 That's it. Yeah, yeah. 749 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,440 Comfy as possible when traveling. 750 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,760 You good Packer or bad Packer? I probably I over pack but I'm 751 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,120 getting much better because I know that inevitably I'll repeat 752 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,080 one outfit five times. Favorite luggage? 753 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,040 I'm using antler at the moment. They're great, nice and light 754 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,920 but sturdy. So let's talk about wardrobe 755 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,320 secrets for a moment. Which brand is your guilty 756 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,560 secret, would you say? Guilty secret. 757 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,720 Well recently I've just discovered Drees Van Outen and 758 00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:07,200 Oh my God, how embarrassing is this? 759 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,400 Do you know For ages I thought was Denise Van Outen's brand and 760 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,680 I was like how funny. Would not have expected to have 761 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,880 a fashion brand. Money. 762 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,080 No object brand. I like to buy. 763 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,760 I'll buy myself like 1 like hero piece. 764 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,240 And. I don't. 765 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,440 I'm not reckless with money in that way. 766 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,280 And. So it's always money, is always 767 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,640 an object. And and bags because. 768 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,600 Yeah, so I so I'll get one class. 769 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,440 So my latest 1 was like the Prada brown suede one, which I 770 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,240 wanted for ages. But I mean I sat on that for 771 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:39,400 like 6 months thinking about it. I'm not someone that can just 772 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,840 buy loads of designer things. And The thing is for me is like, 773 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,520 I like good quality things, but I'm really not bothered about 774 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,560 like brands or logos or I, I like something if I really I 775 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,440 like it, but I won't get something just because it's a 776 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,320 designer. I don't, I don't think I don't 777 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,720 use brands as a status symbol. I use it because I like the 778 00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:03,320 quality of the product. Let's chat a little bit about 779 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,280 your approach to sustainable fashion. 780 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:12,640 Where are you at on thinking about where something's been 781 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,000 made or how it's been made or what it's been made of? 782 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,960 I think I still have loads of work to do on that. 783 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,480 To be honest, I'm probably not as clued up as I should be. 784 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,040 I mean, I try very hard to avoid. 785 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,720 I mean, I avoid fast fashion as much as I can. 786 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,040 I don't overbuy, you know? I'm really conscious of. 787 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,440 I don't like just filling my water. 788 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,080 I hate it. Just in general. 789 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,840 I don't like having too many things. 790 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,080 I prefer if I'm getting something I want to know that 791 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,760 I'm going to be re wearing it and I want to make sure that I'm 792 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,360 giving as much as I can to charity. 793 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,800 Invented. I don't like things sitting in 794 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,560 my wardrobe. I'm half I Also generally 795 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,080 speaking when it comes to all events, I'll always loan or ask 796 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,200 to borrow something from a brand so that I'm not buying things I 797 00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:01,560 would only wear once. Do you have a rent? 798 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,480 I would, but I've been I always struggle to find. 799 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,640 Things. Yeah. 800 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,960 And so many people say that. What do you do with your clothes 801 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,880 when you've had enough of them? Charity or vintage? 802 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,080 Yeah. And does one of your team do 803 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,520 the? Vintage I I is my favorite side 804 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,200 hustle. I am there buying the envelope, 805 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,720 sellotape and packaging I spent. You and I need to talk. 806 00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:29,800 Yeah, I was in Yodel for 4/4 times last Monday. 807 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,800 I sold 50 things over the weekend the other weekend, and I 808 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,560 did all of it within 24 hours. I fucking love it. 809 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,120 Oh, I genuinely get enjoyment out of it. 810 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,080 Do you then? Do you? 811 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,040 Let's give this a plug. Do you have a Roxy store on 812 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,200 vintage? I do, but honestly it goes in 813 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,400 minutes. It's wild. 814 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,480 You put something up and two minutes later it's sold. 815 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,960 Do you ever think maybe I've just sold that too cheaply? 816 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,760 Yeah, but I just, I'm not in it as a money making exercise. 817 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,920 I just want it to go to a good. House you want the circular 818 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,880 lovely, lovely. Do you have one particular item 819 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,960 in your wardrobe that means the most to you? 820 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,080 Just because maybe you wore it to a particular event or. 821 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,000 Yeah, probably the orange Prada shoes, just because I feel like 822 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,800 I wore them tonight. My test of ATV appearance for 823 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,520 Manifest, my first live show, like all the live shows. 824 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,240 And they were even on the inspiration board of Manifest 825 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:21,360 for the cover. And then I bought them after the 826 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,440 book. I've done well. 827 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,440 So that's yeah. Let's spin on some quick fire 828 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,080 questions. What fashion advice would you 829 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,440 give your 20 year old self? Cover up, girl. 830 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,440 Which fashion trend would you most like to see make a 831 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,960 comeback? Skirts over trousers because I'm 832 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,840 wearing them now. Fashion or beauty trend you 833 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:53,800 would consign to room 101 beaded necklaces Your last impulse buy? 834 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,280 Maybe this outfit I'm wearing today. 835 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,760 Your views on tattoos. Yeah, if you can do it, Rocket. 836 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,480 Yeah, beauty treatment. You couldn't give up Botox, high 837 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,600 end or High Street, bison bling or bear. 838 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,000 Bear. Summer or winter? 839 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,240 Winter. Minimalism or maximalism? 840 00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:19,920 Minimalism. Couture or charity shop? 841 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,040 Couture. Crocs cute or puke? 842 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,040 Cute. Sneakers or stilettos? 843 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,760 Sneakers. Boyfriends or wide legs as in 844 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:38,280 jeans. Boyfriends body con or boho Body 845 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,440 con. Beanie or beret beanie. 846 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,960 Red carpet or relax. Red carpet Trend or style? 847 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,160 Style, colour or monochrome? Monochrome. 848 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,720 You have to say that because your next book. 849 00:46:53,880 --> 00:47:00,640 Experimental or UU cashmere or cotton cashmere, Order or 850 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:06,360 editor, editor Shapewear or sexy lingerie, shapewear, tights or 851 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,560 stockings, tights, bikini or one piece bikini. 852 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,520 And finally, traditional last question At the end of the day, 853 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,720 what do you or don't you wear in bed? 854 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,800 Honestly the most giant granny pants you've ever seen and AT 855 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:30,240 shirt from Sainsbury's. That is total honesty. 856 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:33,880 I love it. Roxy, thank you so much. 857 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,560 I've really enjoyed you so reconnecting and having this 858 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,560 conversation with you. Thank you so much. 859 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,600 I've loved it, it's been fun.