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Today I'm going on a style journey with the author,
diversity advocate, speaker and influencer, the simply
Positively infectious Candice Brathwaite.
Hello and welcome. Thank you.
For having me. Oh, it's such a pleasure.
To have you sitting here. Resplendent.
I mean, sorry, can we just talk about this coat?
This coat has been on my Pinterest board for two years.
When it first appeared, the price was so egregious I was
like, absolutely not. But I'm of the school of thought
that everything that I love, loves me too, and it will find
its way to me. I'm about a 30 minute drive from
somewhere called Bicester Village, which is like an outlet
space. It's Prada.
I go in there a couple days ago, pick it up.
It's winking at you, it's smiling, it's winking and, and,
and. No, I wait to pick it up and
then I pause because I remembered the the original
retail price, which. Was to my Mils.
Go 5230 lbs. And then the essay was like, no,
no, you want to look at that price.
Flicked it over not half price then down to 1200 lbs and she
was like also there's an extra 40% off today and my husband was
like you just have a knack for this because I'm patient with
everything but especially when it comes to clothing and style.
I will wait 10 years for a piece.
What have you teamed it with? Prada asos free people and no
one can see my feet, but a great shoe designer called Aminamwadi,
whose shoes I find to be so comfortable.
You know, I'm a, I'm a tiny lady and so I'm typically always in a
heel and her heels are very, very comfortable.
Do you ever wear flats? Yeah, that's something I gotta.
Found oh OK no cause a friend of mine and in fact a a previous
guest wore heels all her working life her life all the rest of it
so much so that she shortened her calves sort of like Dolly
Parton shortened her calves muscles and then so basically
whenever they take their heels off they're walking around on
tiptoe anyhow because. So my 15 foot two may put
counter girl but then went into selling.
Shoes always so. Pristinely termed out.
I mean, beauty pageant level hair done in the hairdresser
every week, 6 inch heels every day, stockings with a scene that
run up at the back, a delicious faux fur in the winter, always a
red lipstick. And I remember looking up at her
as a as a gun of being like, yeah, one day.
That's amazing and your latest? Book.
Manifesto came out in September, became an instant Sunday Times
bestseller. So did you manifest that?
Absolutely. The way I've manifested the rest
of my life, I see it so clearly and I also see the bits people
don't want to see so clearly. Like I I know there's a health
scare brewing. Why do you know that?
I had a very in depth meditation three years ago where I was able
to meet my 40 year old self and 40 year old me told me that I
would have a health scare that rocked everyone around me but it
shouldn't rock me because I already know it's just a scare
and that I'm going to be fine but.
Do you ever worry that because you feel you know that that you
are going to manifest that healthcare?
I I feel like it would have played out exactly the same.
So do you, I mean, I've read that you meditate, but I also
read and I all listened to you saying there is no perfect
meditation and you know that my the little mind bugs or
whatever. And that made me feel a lot
better because so often when I try to meditate, that's the
little. Yeah, the little noise will
creep in. But but what I loved is that you
were so positive about it and so that it doesn't matter because
you you're still there. It's.
The most calming, peaceful thing, even with the little
things that come in and out. And I see my brain like the
trash on our computers now, and noise will come in.
You have to drag it to the trash, reboot and start again.
And for the years I've been meditating, maybe I've had three
or four of those out of body, totally calming meditation
experiences, but that typically doesn't happen all the time.
But it's so so. Worth it?
What? Brought you to meditation in the
first case. So there was an internal voice
that was like, you must just try this thing.
And I was like, I absolutely don't want to do that.
Meditation is not for people like me.
By people like me, I mean very busy at the time, working class
black women who just have to get on with it.
I, I'd never been shown the privilege of all and like me
meditating, taking care of her mental health, please, I don't
have time for that. And then the voice got louder
and louder. The struggle with meditation was
because I I didn't understand that I was worthy of that kind
of peace I thought I had. I could only be highly shunned
for the rest of my life. Or actually, I cannot produce.
I cannot be a success without stress.
Tell me about the inspiration behind Manifesto.
The inspiration behind Manifesto was me trying to encourage women
like me or people that perceive themselves to exist in the
margins of society, be that by race, class, disability,
socioeconomics, manifestations seem to be reiterated by the
same kind of person and again and again and again.
And whilst I take so much from those people and I'm able to
look past the visible physical difference or the lifestyle
difference, I thought to myself, so many people, especially black
women, I'm not squeezing the juice out of their life because
they're not being met where they are at by who they are.
So I thought, I'm a black woman who's really home the art of
manifestation. I'm going to write this book for
everyone. You know why?
Because black women especially have to think about everyone.
Yeah, white people typically don't you're you know, you're
not taught to think about anyone but yourself.
We would hope as the terms like ally, ship, grow that people
choose to do that. But that's what the typical
encouragement I have always existed in in the background.
And when I produce material, I typically have to think about
including everyone. So I was like, I think I'm going
to write a book about manifesting.
So typically, especially in in in the black British publishing
space, to get a book deal, you typically have to write about
something traumatic abuse. Race is a la di da di da, and
I've had my trauma porn books and I was like, no, I'd like to
write something a little bit lighter or at least to me
happier and just more of inclusive in positivity in
general. And that's for manifesto came
manifesting is of the devil. Absolutely.
It's so not Christian. Anything that is seen as you
having quote UN quote power or liberty over your own life is
not taking too too kindly in the black community.
That's fascinating. I've never heard the.
And most of the pushback for this material has come from my
own community. I am so used to that by now that
it's like, you know, I don't hear it.
It's like a dog whistle. But I can appreciate how many
black people alike, we absolutely don't do that because
it it, you know, it, it's not Christian, it's not God like.
And so manifesto actually tries to marry the two.
And I think it does it very, very well because I was raised
in the church, my grandparents, Pentecostal and Baptist, I used
to be in the quiet. I get it.
And yes, I do believe in God and I'm less keen on the Bible, but
I do believe in God. And so this is me starting to
poke at that. Also, it's so funny because a
title like Manifesto, I'm not the Life you deserve, I think
people think they're in for a light read.
There's a lot of historical context that comments in a book
like this and written by a woman like me that he won't find in
any other manifestation material.
Just like proxy of who's writing it.
You know, you, you have this incredible voice, Candice, You
really do. You're challenging the norms.
You're promoting positive change in the realm of diversity and
representation. How did you find that voice?
My maternal granddad and my biological father for sure.
So I was raised by my mature, the granddad.
Shortly before I was born he was mugged and they left him blind
in one eye and he was deemed as unfit for work so he never
worked again. And when my mum had me and I was
the first grandchild on both sides, she wanted to go back to
work and she was living at home and my granddad was like and
Candice will stay right here with me, no babysitter, no
childminder. I will raise her.
And that he did, from the ages of 0 to Tim.
Going back to childhood in Brixton, yes.
What was your earliest memory of clothes making a difference to
you? It was the fact that my school
had no uniform and my granddad still put me in one.
Oh what did you wear to school? So it was a grey pinafore, a
Navy cardigan, white socks, black shoes and matching Navy
ribbons in my hair. So a proper uniform, a proper
uniform and just high octane embarrassment because I'm the
only one in school in the it's a non uniform school.
Because I remember one day sneaking clothes into school in
your backpack, in my backpack. Like putting it under the lining
of the backpack, getting into school, running into the toilet,
changing the outfit, spending the whole day just being so
jazzed up because everyone's like, oh, candy, she looks so
good in my own clothes. Changing right before granddad
comes and then getting the walloping of my life because my
teacher had called him and had been like hi George, this is not
like candy. 'S at what age?
So I was like 7 and he had come drawing play time and spied on
me from school gates. He was like booby clothes are
important especially to him. He was like I came to this
country from the Caribbean to the signs of no blacks, no dove,
no Irish. So he was when when we trust
generation and he was like my outfit always moved the needle
on respect on getting the job. And to this day, on any given
day, my granddad will wear a three piece suit and a pocket
watch. I have to say, those images of
the Windrush generation descending from the ships, I
find them so deeply moving. How beautifully everyone was
dressed up. It was a big proud moment.
It's just I I love those images. And and and those are the images
that I got to live in. Yeah, you know, my Nan, I think
she's got like 6 or 7 wardrobes and she can crochet and knit and
she came from a generation that commend very well and you know,
main maintain their clothes to a high standard.
And I did have a period of absolutely not caring.
It was rebellion and maybe not feeling so confident.
But now, Oh, my clothes are my armour for sure.
I, I often ask our our clothes, your armour, because I, I think
they are, I don't care if it's a cashmere sweater or it's how we
present ourselves doesn't have to be hard and tailored and.
It speaks before I do. I know for sure there's been a
time an outfit has landed me in a job or got me in A room.
When did your passion for fashion start emerging?
OK, so I went to a performing arts school called the Brit
School of Performing Arts, most famously Adele, Amy Winehouse
went there at 13 again and a school where you didn't have to
wear uniform. And I was old enough to make
that decision now. And that's where it really
started to come alive because at that age, everyone is trying to
show their personality and their flares through clothes.
And it's so funny to watch it come back again, to be old
enough to see trends come around the second time.
Very interesting. But the 90s were a big deal.
So our jeans were the Baggies and we were wearing these huge
leather jackets. And where were you finding?
Those there was a great shop the back on Bond Street called
Probito. There is a liberty that has come
in my wardrobe that has definitely come in making more
money. When I was younger, there was no
such thing as fast fashion. It was what you could afford.
And you, you just made that stretch.
You mended, you made, you made it work.
And I love secondhand and vintage because of the idea of
the lifeline. I I couldn't agree more.
What's your What's your best vintage find?
1988 Chanel Classic flap. Reason being I bought it my 30th
birthday and I was born in the year of 88 and she's battered
and bruised and the leather's patinated and is really flat.
So you're about to go onto your wedding dress because that's one
of my questions. Tell me about it.
We decide to get married, finally walk in.
We're like, you know, we know you're going to have a huge
backlog. Let's look at somewhere next
year. She's like, no, someone just
cancelled. You can get married in seven
weeks. We were like, oh sure, let's do
it. Me having never been that person
that thinks about their wedding or Oh my gosh, it's, it's
horrific. It's a minefield.
The second you say wedding, the price goes up, the anxiety goes
up. I was a size 16 to 18 then,
which made finding a dress even. Harder.
Because it just felt as though full of figured women or plus
size women were locked out of that market.
Good old bista village. I'd gone there maybe for the 4th
time. Absolutely not wanting to go on
this trip because finding something I love just wasn't
happening. Went into Oscar, Dena Raninta
was trying on something else in the changing room and their
stockroom doors popped open with a Hoover.
I was like sorry, what is that? She pulls it down.
It's my size. Not only is it my size, original
retail price 22,000. Bam, she sells it to me for
£700. Nah because it's about to go to
Lamendfield. I was like, what are you saying?
She was like, it's so old seas of wise that we were struggling
to sell it, so it was just going to end.
You, you mentioned your size. Can we talk about body image for
a second? Is it that so you've been on a
bit of a body transformation? It really.
So what's really interesting though, before I had my kids, I
was a super runner. Many Americans, halves and ultra
Americans under my belt. Umm.
We've gone to do our life insurance and the premium is
really high because of my weight.
I didn't want to acknowledge it at the time, but I know
subconsciously I made a mental note.
I don't. I don't like literally being
penalized because of the weight. Although also recognizing that
my knees hurt, my back hurt, standing up for more than half
an hour was getting pretty annoying.
Again, I'm only four foot 11. Which is going to feel healthy.
I wasn't. Where was I putting this weight?
I was running 5K maybe 3 days before Esme was born.
My God. So I was so committed to that
version of myself. Got back to her pretty quickly
after Esme. 5 minutes later, my son comes along.
Lost the the gust, Oprah a bit. Then pandemic happens and that's
when everything's just supercharged and you're let out
for one hour a day. You're just eating and doing
whatever. Yeah.
And I was like, OK, internally I was like, enough is enough.
But I was so. And I was scared of meeting this
version of myself. I was so comfortable.
I was so comfortable not acknowledging that to some
degree I was killing myself. Yeah.
And I'm not going to lie, you know, really focusing on upping
the muscle. I feel better.
I look better. I sleep better, I recover
better. Also if there's one thing I want
every especially woman listening to understand better to build a
sustainable body than just focus on the smallest body.
Yeah, it's it's typically non sustainable.
Yeah, yes, you're, you're, you're so right.
That an action, that feeling of strength going back to style.
When do you feel you? Discovered your personal style
DNA. This is going to shock some
people, but I would say early 30s, so not not that low ago,
given that my next birthday is 37, but I would say especially
being in the public eye, especially having social media
profiles, there was definitely in my late 20s this idea that I
should be dressing like everyone else and the people around me at
the time, White, middle class, yummy mummies, Boden, M&S.
Hiking boots. Oh God, I'm getting shivers just
saying these please, guys, please.
I've deleted all the images from Instagram, so don't even try and
scroll because it wasn't real. And then, you know, one day I
woke up and was like, no, what does it mean to dress like you
and to not be dressing to cosplay as something or someone
else? And that really started to come
around. I say about day three, day 4.
Honestly, in all my years designing, working with women, I
would say very young. So it's that old soul in you
coming out again. How do you describe your style
DNA in three words? Sarah Jessica Parker So when I
see Carrie in an outfit, I do truly believe Sarah would wear
that outfit. And when I get dressed, there is
an element on in my mind that's like, how can we terrify this?
I love I love shock value and I love ridiculous things.
Currently I'm obsessed with very silly novelty handbags.
Can we just talk about that for a second?
I think there's one over there. Do you think Love it?
Love it, but do you have a style icon?
Yes, I have. I have a few Sarah Jessica
Parker, Tracee Ellis Ross, the daughter of Diana, yes, and the
celebrity stylist June Ambrose. Now, I know you love your
beauty. Yes, your beauty routine is the
heart of yourself. Care.
Absolutely. Not.
OK, because you look the most exquisite skin.
Absolutely. Do you know what?
I wouldn't say it's self-care. My beauty process is hygiene.
Yeah, when we say something self-care, it's up for debate.
It's like if I can link the time, if I can do it when it
comes to skin care and make up for me, it's hygiene.
I've seen pictures of you taking the sun.
Yes, careful in the sun. So careful because but light
skin can be. Very, very.
Sensitive. In.
Sun and I'm late. To the game with that because
again we naturally come from West Africa and the Caribbean
there is this idea that underwear we're built for it I
would say, and I don't know the data so I don't want to push it
but I would say my auntie who has never left Barbados perhaps
has a better immune system and defenses to the sun that me as
someone that's been raised in a vitamin D lacking space just.
Doesn't hand look around. Us.
I don't have it. And so now I'm marrying
sunscreen today my I call her my auntie, my wonderful auntie
Caroline Hirens taught me that the UV rays are always
penetrating, which is, even though you can't see the sun,
sheep in the way see you. So it's always on.
And when I do love to sunbathe, but I'm topping up on the oil,
on the cream, on the I'm very aware of the damage the sun
does, but also how much I need it.
Can we talk about your hair? I as I walk around the back of
the but there's a gorgeous sort of ripple towing on there.
I shaved my head when I was 17 years old.
Shaved it off. Yeah, I've.
Never. I've never gone.
My husband falls like Mr. Sheen board.
But I shaved it. It's a shade.
Yeah. I shaved it this low when I was
17, which is a huge decision to make regardless of race.
But like in the black community, I think everyone thought I'd
lost the plot. But what had happened?
I've been in New York and a woman had crossed the road with
this haircut and in my mind traffic had stopped for this
woman. She was so upright, shoulders
back, this great low haircut. Her face was like a Halo of
light. And 17 year old me was just like
Oh my God, who is that? And I got off the flight from
New York, dropped my bag and went straight to almost every
Barber in Brixton and begged them to cut my hair and about 7
of of eight refused. Finally the last Barber says
he'll do it. He wants to start at the side
though because he's like if you hate it then you could have like
a MO walk and just let that bit throw out.
I was like, I will pay you an extra fiver to start in the
middle. I was so I was like we're going
to go straight down the middle And everyone in the shot was
really nervous because they all knew my mum.
Like this shot might be shot down in an hour and the second
they took it off. Don't get me wrong, I felt very
aware of myself and very naked but I knew it was me. 17 now,
about to turn 37. I've never had another
hairstyle. Makeup and nails a red.
Lip and a red nail. We are going to the grave, We
are going to the break the red lip again.
I saw it on someone else on a black woman and I was bide.
That's amazing. Although in our community, black
women are will not to wear a red lip, we've always been told it
doesn't suit us. And it took like all things, it
took a lot of trying because you got to find the right tone.
I, I wanted to find the right lip liner.
I wear a very deep plum lip liner.
It's like an ombre effect. And that took a few years, but
then it became, it became a trademark to the point now if I
don't wear a red lip, everyone thinks something's wrong.
And my husband knows this is so funny, guys.
He knows where I am in my cycle based on the tone of red that
I'm wearing the nail again. My wonderful nail tech who has
been my nail tech and friend since we were 17 years old.
She's always done my girls and the red became a staple.
I'd say over the last four years.
We kept doing lots of different colors and patterns and every
time she come back for a refresh, I'd be like, oh, I
hated it. It didn't go with this.
So we settled on red now. You're in a position where you
have your portrait taken a lot. Are you very controlling?
Of that image, no. And of what you're dressed.
In I'm controlling of what I'm dressed in.
I wouldn't say I'm controlling when we when I do go to sets
people are more inclined to have me self style because they know
how important it is to me and they love my style.
So have you ever used a personal stylist I.
Have not but what a timely conversation.
I feel like you're manifesting it.
I'm having meetings with. I'm sorry, there's helicopters
overhead today. It's like helicopter heaven here
today. So let's just.
Carry on rolling. I'm having a meeting with a few
stylists next week and I'm really excited and only because
I I love styling myself. I love doing that.
And I don't think I'm in need of a stylist.
I think I have a clear direction about the message I I'm sending
when I get dressed, which I think is the primary need of a
stylist to to source that direction for you.
When I'm having a hard time is constantly using my credit card.
I'm just like I need. I have the vision.
Can you do the pulling? Do you have the relationship
with the designer? Can you help with the fitting?
I'm now at a stage in my career where I'm comfortable working
with a stylus. Are you effectively interviewing
a couple of stylus? Literally in the next few days
so. Let's talk about travel.
Yes. Do you have a particular travel
look? You're very conscious of what
you're wearing. I do have a travel look and it
is my husband that picked up on it.
It's always a black dress. Typically is in yucky pleads
please because of how it can be folded and molded in and you can
look so chic doing nothing. So yeah, black dress flap shoes
always ready to run and go, especially if I'm with children.
So I don't typically wear flat day-to-day, but whenever I'm
traveling is a black. Dress good.
Packer, Bell, Packer. Wonderful pack of like just an
over pack because I know someone will understand this.
Nothing haunts like the outfit left in your whole country.
Totally with you, it's. Just a waste.
I've been learning to take 4 suitcases for four days.
It happens. Oh especially especially look at
me trying to make it better. Especially because I love codes.
And I suppose you're always making content to a degree.
Yeah, exotic, but although I'm always making content, I think
people would say I am the kind of content creator who
constantly promotes re wearing yeah, I I will I will wear a
great look to a red carpet multiple times I've got no I'm
not the person that's like Oh no, we've been photographed in
that now we we cannot be seen in.
Oh, no, no. It's the least you can do
because I understand that I work in a field that is rooted in
overconsumption. So what is the least I can do?
It's promoting the fact that I purchase these things and I love
them and I'm committed to them. And you're got to see it again
and again and again. Which brand is your?
Guilty secret. My guilty secret is Valenciaga.
Outside of the absolute PR disaster that I completely agree
with their cancellation, I had already fallen in love with a
shape of coat they do called the hourglass coat.
It is cut to absolute perfection and I'm the kind of person that
doesn't just enjoy fashion and my husband says I don't share
this evidence of myself enough. But I'm also fascinated with the
history of fashion and Balenciaga as a house.
When we talk about couture and the shape on a woman, I I
absolutely would lose a limb for some of the older dresses.
And like I'm talking 1960s up Balenciaga couture.
No disrespect to the young children, but like the triple S
Balenciaga trailer, give me a break.
Nothing new, nothing Y2K. But when it came to who
Balenciaga in the House of Valenciaga he used to be, I'll
fall on my own sword. It's trust.
And then in terms of the High Street, who do you think is
doing a really good job? I, you know what, I, I, I, I
need this in because I, I hate to say this, because I, I don't,
I don't enjoy giving them their pox.
But one must Marks and Spencer's more recently also, though I've
been a Marks and Spencer's fan over the years.
I just think they are very good at at at Staples second to them.
No, they are second to who I'm about to say.
And I would run off a ledge to them naked 'cause.
I keep crediting them because it is really impressive.
It's just it's, it's the robe on a budget.
It's the definition of minimalistic and the idea of
quite luxury. Not that I care about that.
The, the, the cut, the fit, the, the way you can wash the pose
and they wash so well 'cause cause 'cause.
And I've often joked and I've had this conversation with many
of my friends who are in safe sex relationships.
All of the good looking lesbians shop at Cos.
I see them in there with their wives.
And I'm just like, what, what is, what is this light source
for you guys? And Cos?
I adore that place and like, it's the one place my husband's
like when I come into London for work, he's like, please don't
stop at Cos. Well listen, better cars than
Blentiaga, thank. You.
Shoes or bags or both? Because you strike me as someone
who loves both. It is both, but if I really had
to go in there we can use the bag.
Even your JW Anderson do. You know what is though?
I need the heights and so. Do you wear a lot of platforms?
A lot. I love a Sophia Webster
platform, and before Sophia Webster in my much younger,
crazier years, I don't think she's currently still designing
shoes. Shauna Olympia, Yeah.
Guilty secret? Yeah, most expensive item you
have ever bought. Not ICE asking for the price
tag, just describe the piece. Oscar de la Vellta ostrich
feather hot. Pink cake.
Oh cautious God, I can see you in that.
Patches for my wedding day and my husband was so he was so sad
at how much the dress experience had dented my confidence.
He was like, you must have this. And he said, more to the point,
it's what you would typically spend on maybe, you know, a Vera
wine piece if you had found it. You must, must have this.
To this day, the only case we've ever seen that cake is on
Beyoncé in Vogue and. Have you worn it or worn it?
It gets to the point where my husband's like, cut it down.
It doesn't quite go. I'm like, really?
What is your approach to sustainable fashion My.
Approach now is again agreeing to spend more, to buy less and I
can appreciate you have to be earning a certain amount to be
able to do that. It's also in me breaking the
chaders that certain websites had on me where you're just
constantly scrolling or hitting new in and admitting that it's
just that little spike in dopamine and you've been a bit
low today and how some would maybe order a take away.
I'd go on certain websites and be like, oh, Ding, Ding, Ding,
Ding, Ding. And there's nothing wrong with
those websites because I'm a woman that came from very little
means. I'm trying to straddle not
demonizing people for what they can afford.
Yeah. It's about how often it's used,
how much it's loved. And really, a huge
responsibility lies with platforms, not over making.
Not like I wish we could have way less trends per year.
Let's spin on some quick fire questions.
What fashion advice would you give your 20 year old self?
You don't always have to be naked.
More skin is not the definition of sexy.
It doesn't have to be the definition of sexy, but it just
always made me feel more self-conscious.
The pulling down of the skirt as you're walking the you know, the
stilt like heels. Feeling like you always had to
cup your own bosoms. Find your own definition of
sexy. Of that fashion trend, you'd
most like to make a comeback. Oh I do love the knit waist.
I love the 40s fifties. But I am simply obsessed with
tailoring on women. A good YSL suit, A good.
Tom Ford. Gucci era suit.
Fashion or beauty trend you'd consign to room 1O1 mini?
Skirts. I I, I, I I don't believe I have
the legs for them. That's just not something I want
to do. A very thin eyebrow.
Whoever. Well, we over plucked our
eyebrows, gorgeous. Oh my God, what were we thinking
of? My generation, not yours.
Your last impulse by. A very, very excellently made
Valenciaga the turtleneck jumper.
Look, I'm going back on everything I said that can be
worn as a mini treats. Your views on tattoos love.
Tattoos, do you have any? Oh, I've got 7 or 8.
I, I love tattoos. I and I'm very, very clear about
this. It's my clear as the day you
were born or full sleeves. Beauty treatment you couldn't
give up. This is I can't believe I'm
saying this because I thought it was a fad, but my red light
mask. Yeah, I when it was sent to me,
I was like, I've used it consistently for 18 months and I
really see the difference. High end or high?
Street High Street. I'm I'm High Street.
I recently caught the most gorgeous coat from River Island
that I get stopped in multiple times a day.
Minimalism or maximalism? Maximalism.
Couture or charity shop? Oh couture darling, let's not
lag. Crocs cutial pute.
Cute, cute. Sneakers or stilettos?
Boyfriends or. Word legs.
Boyfriends. Body corn or boho?
Boho. Beanie or Berry?
Beanie Sports. Lux or Rock'n'roll Sports Lux
red carpet or relax? Red carpet.
Trendo style, style, colour or monochrome colour, Experimental
or uniform on cashmere or cotton, Cotton hoarder or
editor, Oligo, shapeweb or sexy lingerie, shapewear, Tights or
stocking tights, Bikini or wombies?
Bikini. And finally, traditional last
question at the end of the day, what do you or don't you wear in
bed? A gorgeous cotton 90 Kelly.
I have loved this. Conversation.
Thank you so much. You've been an amazing guest.
Thank you for having me. Isn't it been wonderful?