1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,440 Today I'm going on a style journey with broadcaster, 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,240 journalist, radio presenter, mother of two and passionate 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,240 animal welfare campaigner, the gorgeous Kirsty Gallagher. 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,680 Hello and welcome Kirsty. Thank you so much. 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,680 Thanks for having me. Oh, it's very exciting to. 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,520 Have you here? I know you are a super busy 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,440 girl, but I would love to know what project you're most excited 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,920 about at the moment. Oh gosh, there's lots going on 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,000 at the moment. I well, I'm looking at lots of 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,560 sort of bits and pieces TV wise. Obviously. 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,840 I do radio, smooth radio with a a brilliant sort of gang there. 12 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:45,480 I love it. And then I'm yeah, there's lots 13 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:49,640 of projects and but I'm also doing, as you mentioned, a lot 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,520 more campaigning for animal welfare. 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,720 So that sort of sits there nicely and I'm a mum as well, so 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,520 there's quite a lot going on. The radio takes up a lot of my 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,200 time, but I I love it because it's funny because I was always 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,440 in TV and at Sky Sports did did that and that was my bread and 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,120 butter. And I I do a lot of corporate 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,080 bits and pieces, you know, things on the side. 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,320 But I'd never done radio like this. 22 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:17,000 I'd I'd done some sort of sports radio, talked about golf and 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,800 football and various things or whatever, and worked with Chris 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,200 Evans on rock'n'roll football, on Virgin. 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,000 But I I'd never done this sort of music radio. 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,440 I love it. And because you can be yourself 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,880 and you're just like talking to your friends and it's like 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,200 really nostalgic music's bit solely because I'm a soul girl 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,640 and it's grey. I love it are. 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,160 You, I mean, it's radio, but are you very conscious about what 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,240 you're wearing to go into the radio? 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,120 That that's great because sometimes it's nice dressing up 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,960 if you feel like it and sometimes I might sort of, you 34 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:50,560 know, meet friends after and get excited and have nice dinner or 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,560 drinks. And sometimes you just, It's 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,200 really nice actually, because you can go wearing a jumpsuit 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,640 like chilled out, you know, or gym gear I. 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,400 Was going to say ever straight from the gym? 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,200 Yes, loads. I mean quite a few. 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,840 Jenny Faulkner who does it, she's obviously a brilliant 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,840 runner and she's running the marathon this year and I was 42 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,320 running it last year. I'd often turn up in my running 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,520 gear and then you know, she runs home. 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,160 Sometimes she's incredible because we we sort of I go on 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,840 just after her on a Saturday so no it's great you know when 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,280 you're relaxed you do a better job anyway totally so but there 47 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,320 have been times as well and Miling class does this a lot she 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,840 we sort of wear you know you wear sort of relaxed gear and 49 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,440 you feel like you do your best job in that way and then you've 50 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,000 got an event after and you sort of go into the you sort of do 51 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,880 Wonder Woman thing go out the door with a with a ball dress on 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,120 so so no it's it's great that's the beauty of radio it's it's 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,560 about what you're saying it's about your voice it's about 54 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,560 keeping someone company and and you know sort of yeah keeping 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,240 those listeners company and and doing a good job it's not so 56 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,880 visual is it which it's quite refreshing in a way. 57 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,320 But I just wondered, in this sort of social media world, how 58 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,640 much do you feel you get snapped or you have to snap yourself I 59 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:08,480 on the way or way from? I I control it myself. 60 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,880 Really. You control it yourself. 61 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,720 It's what you want to make of it and and what you want to do, 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,280 really. When I do breakfast for smooth, 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,280 which I don't do all the time we all sort of help each other on 64 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,280 there and and when Jenny's are off I'll do breakfast and I love 65 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,080 that and yeah, I mean maybe I'll, I won't feel like it 66 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,520 whatever time for in the morning. 67 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,960 Yeah. But I will possibly dress up a 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,400 little more. The weekends you feel a bit more 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,880 chilled out sort of Saturdays turning up after the gym. 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,480 But no it's it's fine. It's you it it it is what it is. 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,640 You you make it what, what you want it to be. 72 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,960 But I must say, when you're really relaxed you, you do a 73 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,680 better job. Yeah, I think. 74 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,640 I think clothes are so important to us as to how they make us 75 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:50,880 feel. Absolutely. 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,840 And it it doesn't really matter what you're what. 77 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,480 It's absolutely where you're going. 78 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,000 It's just if you're feeling your best self, Yep, you are gonna be 79 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,600 your. Best self. 80 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,480 Yeah, you are. And you're not so conscious and 81 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,080 oh, fidgeting. Yeah, worrying. 82 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,800 But today we're gonna go on a style journey, yeah. 83 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:14,240 And so as part of that journey, I just wondered why you decided 84 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,399 to wear what you're wearing to come here. 85 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:21,160 Well obviously I was very aware I'm, I'm sat with you know you 86 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,560 who is, I've looked up to for years. 87 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,160 In her hoodie? No, you. 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:30,440 Look, you always look stunning. And I love what you've designed. 89 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,880 I love what you what you've done. 90 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,080 I mean, you're you're a, you know an institution British 91 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,440 fashion institution. God, that makes me feel very 92 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,560 old. No, no, not at all. 93 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,240 No, not at all. Your name is just like well, 94 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,000 don't you don't might not know this but I'm a Joseph girl. 95 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:50,440 I worked at Joseph as AIII, left school took a gap year and was a 96 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,640 Joseph girl. So I I, you know, I know a lot 97 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,080 about fashion. You might not always think think 98 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,720 so the way I wear very casual gear occasionally. 99 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,880 But I think that's the sort of beauty of, you know, I'm also, I 100 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,600 do a lot of sport and fitness so I do wear a lot of gym gear all 101 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,720 the time. But no, I I was a Joseph girl. 102 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:12,880 So I worked you know on Sloan St. the big the big one there. 103 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,040 And Joseph used to come in every day. 104 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,400 And I was like, Oh my God, it's Joseph. 105 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,880 He was such a phenomenal hands on retail he was. 106 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,480 Amazing. And I'm sure you knew. 107 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:22,960 Yeah, knew him well. Yeah, he. 108 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,240 He smoked a cigar walking through, absolutely with that 109 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,720 Mac. He used to wear that Mac. 110 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,680 And I was just like, Oh my God, but I loved the simplicity of 111 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:39,600 and and still do love sort of simple kind of clean cut clothes 112 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,640 and that that looks. So I was aware of what I was, 113 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,880 you know, doing today and I thought, God, if you can't go in 114 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,840 your gym gear, you can't go in a onesie or jumpsuit or whatever. 115 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,320 I'm wearing a Philip Limb suit. Gorgeous. 116 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,840 Now the colour isn't very me in a way, but actually I quite like 117 00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:57,320 it 'cause I wear too much black. It's a good thing you didn't 118 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,000 come this morning 'cause I was wearing exactly that colour. 119 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,080 You're joking this, yes. You're joking. 120 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,440 Not that suit, but that colour, yes. 121 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,280 So you like, do you? I love it. 122 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:07,760 Gorgeous. It's oversized. 123 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,840 Gorgeous. But you know, a bit like we were 124 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:12,680 saying just now, it it, it's comfortable. 125 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,920 You can wear I need. I nearly wore it with trainers, 126 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,640 decided to wear a boot, you know. 127 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,760 So yeah, I thought I'd put a Philip Lim on for you. 128 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,760 Well, thank you. And you grew up in Surrey. 129 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,680 Your father was a professional golfer, very famous professional 130 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,240 golfer. Did his golfing style rub off on 131 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,560 you at all? Well, I mean. 132 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,320 There was a lot of Lyland Scott banging around the house. 133 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,000 Do you know what? My dad and mum, both my parents, 134 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,560 have great style. I have to say that my mum loves 135 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,400 you as well, by the way, and she was very excited about, you 136 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,160 know, coming today. They, my mum is very chic, Very, 137 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,080 very chic. I've learnt a lot from her, My 138 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,360 dad, yeah, I mean, golf gear, it's quite cool. 139 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,680 I mean, it's quite retro now, you know some of the stuff he's 140 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,480 got. Yeah. 141 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,760 And does he still wear, Does he still wear sort of quite golfing 142 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,080 inspired? Well, he, he, he plays a lot of 143 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,160 golf still, Yeah. And he plays golf. 144 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,840 He still does, you know, play in golf days. 145 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,880 He still works. So yeah, he wears golf gear and. 146 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,080 But when he's off. Yeah, of course. 147 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,200 Yes, he's. Still in his leylands. 148 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,080 Golf. It can do. 149 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,680 Can do, yeah. There's the odd sort of, yeah. 150 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,760 But did that rub off on you in a positive way? 151 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Did you aspire to that? Or did you think that's all well 152 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,000 and good for you, Dad? But it's not for me? 153 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,360 Well, do you mean actually would I wear any of that? 154 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,040 Yes, when I play or or or just in general. 155 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,720 What do what do you wear when you play? 156 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,680 Well, I mean it's it is quite limiting. 157 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,200 You know, I wear you, You have to wear a trouser and a jumper. 158 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,600 You've got to be smart, haven't you? 159 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,320 And then it's keeping warm, really. 160 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,960 So, yeah, I mean, I I guess I have been. 161 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,880 My father is very smart. He's together, we're very 162 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,280 similar. We're perfectionists, we're 163 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,840 quite a bit sort of OCD, but it always looks Immaculate and and 164 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:11,280 I guess if if anything, I definitely have grown up in that 165 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,280 that sort of quite smart everything, you know. 166 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,400 Yeah, put together, put together. 167 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,640 Do you remember your ugliest memory of how clothes made you 168 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,440 feel? Yes, in a funny way. 169 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,040 My mum still talks about an sort of. 170 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,559 We now talk about this to, well, my nieces. 171 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,520 I've got 2 nieces and A and a nephew, and then I've got two 172 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,840 boys, obviously. So to the nieces my mum will 173 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,320 say, you know, if she can't get them dressed 'cause they're only 174 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,760 little and they're sort of fighting her going, come on, put 175 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,120 your whatever on. She always tells the story that 176 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,240 I would not, I would not wear trousers. 177 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,720 As a little. Girl and I hated tights. 178 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,240 So it was a bit like, oh, you want to wear a dress or a skirt 179 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,720 but you're not going to put tights on itchy. 180 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,320 Everything was itchy and tighter. 181 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,560 I used to have like a proper hissy fit. 182 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,680 Hissy fit. You know, when you're just like, 183 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:10,120 Oh yeah, so I that that's how tights made me feel. 184 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,880 And do they still? Make you feel. 185 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,720 Like I really don't like things that are really itchy and things 186 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,760 can make. Yeah, good excuse for a lot of 187 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,120 cashmere. Yeah, well, yeah. 188 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,200 Gotta be very soft. Very, very soft. 189 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,440 But yeah, I think. I think I was always very aware 190 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,440 of what I was wearing and maybe not so much the look, right, but 191 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,640 how it felt. Yes, Funny, isn't it? 192 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,760 And you've got one, sister. Yes. 193 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,880 Were you very conscious of each other's style growing up? 194 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,080 She's. So different to me. 195 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,120 Did you pinch each other's clothes? 196 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,920 No, no, I mean she we're eleven years different difference. 197 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:51,240 There's an 11 year age gap. Laura is very floaty, quite kind 198 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,920 of. In fact as a child she used to 199 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,240 walk around naked most of the time. 200 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,400 She was just like, oh, I don't can't bother with clothes. 201 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,040 I mean we're talking little, little, yeah, yeah. 202 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,800 You know she used to rip her clothes off and my mum was, Oh 203 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,480 my God, I'm despairing of you. So I was not like that. 204 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,680 I was always quite sort of probably prudish in in a way. 205 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,040 But Laura is just like free and easy and I'm not too bothered 206 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,720 about what people say or think and very different you know very 207 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:22,880 different way of dressing or look I I like things cut and 208 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,840 clean and quite sort of and and she's the opposite and. 209 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,680 You were a keen sportswoman from being quite young. 210 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:36,560 From a young age, did your probably very honed sports 211 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:40,640 physique influence? Oh come on, absolutely always. 212 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,680 Did it. Did it influence your early 213 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:46,520 clothing choices? Were you Were you drawn towards 214 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,400 things that were very on the body? 215 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,640 Do you know, Funny enough, I've always thought I looked better 216 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,000 'cause I I've got boobs, but I've got a small waist. 217 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:57,720 I love it. I've got. 218 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,440 Boobs. I have boobs. 219 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,840 Sorry about that. And then so if you wear too many 220 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,280 things that baggy and not and don't Accenture it you you can 221 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,240 look a bit sort of. Well, it can just look a bit. 222 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,560 It's. Funny, because I'm wearing an 223 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:14,320 oversized suit, but for some reason it it doesn't feel bad. 224 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,200 I I would not have worn this 20 years ago. 225 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,080 I was wearing tight stuff. Yes, I was thinking, you know, 226 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,160 you need to kind of dress for your figure, but you don't. 227 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Always have to do that, do you? Absolutely not. 228 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,440 And also, I suppose if you know on television, the camera, well 229 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,840 that's it can be very cruel. And if you're wearing something 230 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,320 very oversized, you can actually get really lost in it. 231 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,320 It doesn't work if it you know if you're moving around and all 232 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,440 the rest of it. If you're just sitting in one 233 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,800 place and you can wrap your jacket, then you feel 234 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,000 completely. Yeah, yeah, you know, you're 235 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,640 right. But actually, going back to what 236 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,080 you were saying, you're also it it it's when you do lots of 237 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,680 exercise. And actually a couple of years 238 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:04,000 ago I was a bit too muscly, I'd say. 239 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,600 And actually it's not always that flattering in clothes 240 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,720 because you can look a bit sort of bulky and a bit big. 241 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,560 I'm happier with my my physique now 'cause I'm slightly more 242 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:14,880 petite, 'cause I'm quite. Very. 243 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,920 It's very true. When I was doing a lot of water 244 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,200 skiing. Yeah, you build up that, sort 245 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,000 of, is it? Yeah. 246 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,440 What is this? You know your shoulders and your 247 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,720 shoulders and your. Traps. 248 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,560 Your traps. Oh my God, I felt like a rugby 249 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:28,840 player. I quite like that on women 250 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,160 though it looks great cause I've got an I I'm working with a 251 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,000 female personal trainer at the moment and I was working with a 252 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,400 a male a few years ago who I got a bit bulky. 253 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,360 He's a great friend of mine, Mel Dean and and this this girl that 254 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:48,160 I'm working with now purely because I I I'm not in London 255 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,480 all the time. So I'm working with her and 256 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,240 she's local, she's Venezuelan and she's unbelievable. 257 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,120 She's not Amazonian Venezuelan, she's a bikini model. 258 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,040 She doesn't like women with the traps. 259 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,080 I'm like I need, I want the traps. 260 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,920 Giving them back. I'm not coming back now, but. 261 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:04,520 Don't build them up. Too much? 262 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,960 No, I know, But with clothes it is difficult. 263 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,080 Yet for a for a if you do get a little bit sort of bulkier, you 264 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,080 gotta be careful. You. 265 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,840 So I'm always aware of that, yeah. 266 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,640 And. And you had some workout DVDs 267 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,120 didn't? You. 268 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:20,960 Oh my gosh. Yeah. 269 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,080 What are your favorite gym and sportswear workout brands? 270 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:32,520 I wear a lot of sweaty Betty. Yeah, I mix it up, Lululemon. 271 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,320 I actually love the whole sports Lux look. 272 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,440 Yeah. In fact, I wear a lot that. 273 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,360 Was my next question. Well, let's do. 274 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:42,040 Can we? Collaborate, 'cause I'm 275 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,920 desperate to. I love sort of playing around 276 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,520 with and you know, I don't just put gym gear on because I'm 277 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,280 going to the gym. I quite like that look of a sort 278 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:00,760 of like you're wearing a sort of cashmere hoodie, hoodie with a 279 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,360 legging and a really nice trainer or I love all that, that 280 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,640 sort of sports. That's great, isn't it? 281 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,040 For for women and lifestyle and whatever lifestyle you've. 282 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,720 Got. I think it always looks sort of 283 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,160 fairly cool fairly ageless and actually just like you're 284 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,320 really. Yeah. 285 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,040 Yeah. At home and you know at ease in. 286 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,240 Yeah, what you're wearing. I mean, for me, I think there's 287 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,280 something very inspiring about the seeming on some of that 288 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,520 athletic wear because it really molds and sculpts the body. 289 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Well, absolutely. I mean there and there are some 290 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,080 brilliant brands out there and I I mean I love do you know PE 291 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,440 Nation? Yeah, yeah. 292 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,960 I mean I love PE Nation, which is difficult to get obviously 293 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,040 because it's it's an Australian brand as I think. 294 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,160 But and then Valley's Grey, I mean there are so many brilliant 295 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,200 brands. But I I mix and match in general 296 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:53,160 and I choose and sort of just, yeah, wear what I want to want 297 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,320 to wear on that day, whether I'm going to the gym or not. 298 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,520 And have you ever been tempted to be sort of more sporty 299 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:05,520 looking in your sports presenting role? 300 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,160 Well, I I think that's probably partly why I wear my hair up all 301 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,680 the time. And this is another thing. 302 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,560 I mean, I never wear my hair down. 303 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,880 Ever. I rarely wear it down. 304 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,440 I don't think I've ever seen you with your hair down and you've 305 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,880 got beautiful. Hair. 306 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,760 Well, it's lovely hair, but it really annoys me when it's down. 307 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:27,040 And I'm not a very pampery girl. I'm quite girly, but I'm not 308 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,320 very good at pampering myself. I'm not very good at nails and 309 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:31,440 all of that. I'm. 310 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,560 I'm a little bit, I don't know if that's also because I'm 311 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,200 always busy and I think it's hard when you're kids and I've 312 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,120 got lots of animals and do you know what I mean? 313 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,920 You're you're just let things go a bit. 314 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,200 But I was just to shove my hair up because it's so much easier 315 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,040 and I actually quite like wearing it up. 316 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,720 It's just nice to just slick it back. 317 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,960 But but I think that is quite a sporty look as well. 318 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Yes, so, so maybe that's maybe. That has evolved slightly from, 319 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,480 you know, Yeah, at at Sky Sports, I wore it. 320 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,520 In fact, I used to go into makeup. 321 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,880 It's quite funny actually. And they'd say, what would you 322 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,320 like? Oh well, I'd have just can I 323 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,520 have some you know, greys or you know on the the eye shadow what 324 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,080 should we do with your hair? And I said, can we just wear it 325 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,120 up. They're like you wore it up 326 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,360 yesterday and the day before, and the day they had to force me 327 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,960 to to put it down. But I think there's something 328 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,920 really lovely about having a signature, you know? 329 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,920 You saying I'm glad? You said this and if if it works 330 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,720 for you, you say you don't like it down you, you know I. 331 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,640 Really don't like my hair down. Keep it up. 332 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,160 And I did that for years. I did do that, you know, for 333 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,160 years when I was younger. And you do the long hair and the 334 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,440 the sort of which I love. And I have got very long hair 335 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,880 and I do love it if someone does my hair for me, but I can't do 336 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,120 it myself, I'm really bad. And so I just put it up. 337 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,320 And The thing is, if you're training a lot, yeah, it becomes 338 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,800 very high maintenance. Yeah, well it does then. 339 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,320 Then you can look at the other side of it and chop your hair 340 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,560 off, which I did do a few years ago and I did have a a cut which 341 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,400 I laughed. But then you can't always tie 342 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,920 up, so you can't just. It's like. 343 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,920 I think that's almost more high maintenance, yeah. 344 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:07,440 Well yeah, it is. It didn't quite work for me, 345 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,599 although my mum keeps saying come on, chop your hair off. 346 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,720 Oh no. Do you think you ever used 347 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:20,640 clothes to help support you during your time of getting into 348 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,119 reporting and, you know, holding your own on on that stage? 349 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,520 What, Right, at the beginning, Yeah, I think I was probably, 350 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,920 you know, when you start anything, I think you've got to 351 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,120 be quite conservative. I think probably plus also when 352 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:42,000 I started at Sky as a presenter, it it, it changes it, you know? 353 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,120 Things evolved, don't they it? Really has different. 354 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:48,520 Studios, it's more it's modernizing studios. 355 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,040 So things are different. Lighting. 356 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,840 So it we were wearing, I think we were wearing kind of suits. 357 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,720 Yeah, in the beginning, yeah, that's how we started. 358 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,320 And it quite conservative and safe and great. 359 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,920 And then it became a little bit more edgy and kind of pushing 360 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,400 the boundaries. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the studios 361 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,760 were more modern and do you think? 362 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,880 And so things did change. Yeah, I think, I think you 363 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,560 evolve in that way in presenting. 364 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,240 I think you you push the boundaries a bit I think. 365 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,560 Do you think you were wearing suits to start with, really to 366 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,120 give you a bigger presence? I. 367 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Think subconsciously, yeah, possibly. 368 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,440 Although we were wearing what we were kind of asked to wear. 369 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,560 But yeah I think subconsciously so. 370 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,760 Well, no. I think Styles we we had 371 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,440 stylists and and obviously we we we were young, young women. 372 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,680 I mean I I was only really young and it was all kind of like rub 373 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,160 it in the head in the headlights. 374 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,440 So I had to be, we were guided as to what they wanted because 375 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,400 it's a look, isn't it? And that was a uniform look and 376 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,560 I think that's great. And I I think it was great how 377 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,400 as I said, we evolved and the look evolved for us as time went 378 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,400 on and studios modernize. And yeah, I think I think that's 379 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,960 the right sort of thing. But it is interesting. 380 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,440 I think think there is that sort of idea of a suit. 381 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,120 People are going to take me more seriously, Power. 382 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,480 Yeah. I mean, I just love a suit. 383 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,720 I mean, I'm not wearing it to be powerful today, I know. 384 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:18,480 But there there is something quite empowering. 385 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,800 Yeah, there is. It's great. 386 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,240 It's like, you mean a business I like, but then you can equally 387 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,520 dress it down a bit. But you still look really smart. 388 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:27,920 I love it. Love a suit. 389 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,040 In your presenting career, you obviously walked countless red 390 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,680 carpets. How do you plan your red carpet 391 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,440 looks? I still hate the red carpet. 392 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,000 I've got to be brutally honest. Because. 393 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,680 I get so nervous. I'm so like, oh, I, I, I it's 394 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,160 really weird. I mean, I'm 48 now and I've 395 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,360 done, I've been doing this a long time and still when I go on 396 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:56,360 the red carpet, I'm like, I don't know what's wrong with me. 397 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,400 Do do you know what I mean? But there is something, it is a 398 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,800 real affront, those hundreds of flash bulbs going. 399 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,840 It's quite a it's quite a energetic actually. 400 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,200 It's not really my cup of tea doing the red carpet because I'm 401 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,200 not a model. I'm not sort of I I I didn't 402 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,080 choose to do. I know it's part of the 403 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,920 territory you you go and it's really nice to go to lovely 404 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,880 events and we're very, very lucky and I'm very grateful and 405 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,480 I'm not saying I don't want to do it now and again, but I've I 406 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,760 it never gets any easier. It's a lot of pressure. 407 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,360 Do you use a stylist? Yeah, it's yes I do. 408 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:36,840 I work with a a great girl Emma Lane who who styles actually she 409 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,800 styled. She stars Laura Whitmore and and 410 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,160 various wonderful looking gorgeous girls and friends of 411 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,760 mine. I I'm but I'm always open to 412 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,160 working with different people. I think it depends on what 413 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,680 you're kind of where you're at in your life as well. 414 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,120 But no, she's she's wonderful and she completely gets me. 415 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,640 And what's the process you say I'm going to X awards? 416 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,320 Yeah, the the brilliant thing. I I think it's hard when you 417 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,600 start working with a stylist because as you know, they don't 418 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,520 really know you and it shouldn't just be about what you look. 419 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,480 It's your character. It's everything and it's 420 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,560 comfort. It's all of those things. 421 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,840 So it's wonderful. I I I mean, I've known Emma a 422 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,320 long time with family, friends. So wonderful to to be working 423 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,240 with her because she knows me inside and out, knows my body 424 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,880 shape, knows what I'm like mentally. 425 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,200 You know that. You know, I might not be that 426 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,680 confident on the red carpet or whatever. 427 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,080 So no, yeah, it's a process of she gets lots of stuff and we 428 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,000 just do a big try on. She knows I like simplicity. 429 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,320 And does she take a snap of you in it during the fitting? 430 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,840 Yeah, And then we just look at that and see what we like. 431 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,680 But we always have. Maybe, you know, if she comes to 432 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,600 me and helps me get dressed or whatever, we'll always have that 433 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,200 other option. Or a couple of, just in case. 434 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,880 Yeah, you're, you know, you're really not feeling the red. 435 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,160 You're wanting to wear the black again or the Navy. 436 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,920 Do you know what I mean? Yeah, because it is very much 437 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,920 kind of on the day, you got to feel right, haven't you? 438 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:03,600 For whatever reason, you might not feel that confident. 439 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,840 Yeah. Or you might, I don't know, feel 440 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,280 like you put a few pans on or whatever. 441 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Oh, stop it. Stop it. 442 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,080 Well, when do you feel that you really discovered who you were? 443 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,480 Stylistically. Oh gosh, I don't know if I ever 444 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,280 have. It's a funny, funny thing, 445 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,000 really. I'm just about to have another 446 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,040 wardrobe overhaul because. And how will you go about that 447 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:29,920 it be? I will. 448 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,280 I'll pretty much Chuck everything I have to. 449 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:37,040 Well actually it's it's I was very excited about speaking to 450 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:42,440 you because as well about this because I actually I'm, I'm like 451 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,160 I said I'm a perfectionist. I'm a bit OCD, very tidy, don't 452 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,040 like lots of clutter or mess. You know, people with beautiful 453 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,880 big dressing rooms and loads of that is not me. 454 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,480 Yeah, I think I'm a capsule wardrobe girl and that is it. 455 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,760 But I think that's the way forward for me. 456 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,040 It is, I think. I would love to think it was the 457 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,280 way forward for most people because I just think we've got 458 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,160 too many options. We're consuming way too much, 459 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,440 you know, Buy less, buy best. Well. 460 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,120 I think that's another point look out of. 461 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,120 Taste, make it last and and then reinvent it. 462 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,000 But it's very much about you. You have certain pieces that you 463 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,480 spend money on and then High Street does a great job at you 464 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,720 know just sort of whatever you might want to wear regularly 465 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,240 during the week. I mean, I I do wear a lot of 466 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,200 fitness gear as we've as we've talked about, but I I don't, I 467 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,200 think probably I'm, I'm coming to the point where, yeah, less 468 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,040 is more for me. Yeah. 469 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,360 On the body and in the wardrobe, Yeah, I know that I look better 470 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:46,680 with less going on. I know I like my hair up. 471 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,800 I think I'm just streamlining. Yes. 472 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,080 Is that normal? Absolutely. 473 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,400 And I, you know, the more people I've talked to to over the 474 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,960 years, it is not something that happens in your 20s or your 30s 475 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,600 even. And I I mean even my. 476 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,600 I feel like I'm still feeling more and more at ease in my own 477 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,040 skin. How ridiculous. 478 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Is that. But no, I think that's no, it's 479 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,840 one of you. You look amazing. 480 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:19,360 Well, I think we just, we, I think it's a really weird. 481 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,880 I mean I look back at clothes and looks and I think, Oh my 482 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,080 gosh, what were you thinking? Seriously, that is so not me. 483 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,120 But I've obviously worn it for a reason because I've thought 484 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:32,640 that's great or someone said wear it or. 485 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,200 Do you? Do you look back on one specific 486 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,520 outfit and think that was clearly my worst fashion ever? 487 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,560 I I yeah. Tell me. 488 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,200 Yeah, there are a couple of well, there are a couple of 489 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,160 things here. Silence. 490 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,800 Don't want to sound like I'm being derogatory, but they 491 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,520 didn't Suit me is I went through a massive Diane von Furstenberg 492 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,880 dress phase. I'm talking every single one. 493 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,200 And actually they I did wear them on TV quite a lot and they 494 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,600 actually look quite good. They're great with boobs because 495 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,400 they're the V and the rap, but I don't see that as you no at all. 496 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,440 It's frightening because I'm actually quite, I think I look 497 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,640 better when I'm modern. I'm not a classic girl, really 498 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,760 I'm I have a classic edge to me, but I think I'm better edging a 499 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,600 bit of edge and a bit more modern. 500 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,200 Anyway, I I did have a massive diamond and I wore my hair down 501 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,960 when I wore, so that's like another life. 502 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,960 Really. Girly. 503 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,680 Really different. My other big faux pas, I would 504 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,000 say had to be, you know, great brand in a way. 505 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,920 I mean, worth a fortune. Poochie, do you remember that? 506 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,440 What did you have? All Sturly Poochie prints. 507 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,440 Poochie prints, Yeah, it was just a simple wasn't a dress. 508 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:56,040 It was just a top round neck, like a sort of very funny fabric 509 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,760 anyway. But he was like, I look like I 510 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,960 was in Austin Powers. I mean, it's horrific. 511 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,120 When I look back at that. I'm like, Oh my gosh, seriously, 512 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,560 what were you thinking? It was like green with black and 513 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:15,080 sort of slightly psychedelic. I mean, seriously, that was I I 514 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,640 have pictures. I think I went to an an event 515 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,040 and there's there's one knocking about and I saw it, actually, 516 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,880 friend of mine sent me that and I was like, oh, please never 517 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,680 show me that again. Although you've got to laugh, 518 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,560 haven't you, 'cause you're a young woman, you do only 24 or 519 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,760 five or whatever, you know, we're talking 20 or 24 years 520 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,360 ago. But it is funny. 521 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,320 Yeah, I've made, I've made some errors. 522 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,640 We all have. We all have. 523 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,320 And we all think at the time, well, you know, let's try this. 524 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,880 No. Not good. 525 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,880 If if someone were to describe your style in three words, what 526 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,640 would what would you want those 3 words to be? 527 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:57,000 Oh, simple chic. Yeah. 528 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,360 I I want to say clean, but clean's like simple. 529 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,080 I don't know. I I do. 530 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,520 I would never say I'm edgy, but I would, I would always hope 531 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,480 that I brought a little something like A twist, but I 532 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,880 don't do that every time, so I I guess it would be maybe elegant. 533 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,320 Actually, yeah, I'm thinking more in, you know, wearing black 534 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,200 tie or something like that. I think that's good. 535 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,880 I will always. I I would never be daring in in 536 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,120 any situation. So simple. 537 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,880 Yeah, Simple, sort of. Clean, simple. 538 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,120 Chic, hopefully, and elegant. Love that. 539 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:40,640 I don't know. I'm flattering myself here. 540 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,720 That's why I say if someone else were to describe you, 'cause I 541 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,720 think it's much easier to test this, this would how I would 542 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,360 love someone to. Describe. 543 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,160 Yeah. It's not always what people 544 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,360 would say, is it? Now you're the mother of two 545 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:56,720 teenage boys. Yeah. 546 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,640 Has your style evolved as they've grown up? 547 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,240 Yeah, probably. And and do do they, now, being 548 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,360 teenagers, have strong opinions on what you wear. 549 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,320 Yes, they have. They love fashion. 550 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,320 My, my kids love. I thought one would be a bit 551 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,800 less because you know, OK, just you've got two children, one 552 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,160 might like more, you know, clothes more and and they both 553 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,280 love fashion looks quite different. 554 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,360 They're very different. So they've got a real eye. 555 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,080 And yes, so they're looking at people and they're looking at me 556 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,240 and Oh yeah, very, very much so. I mean, they're very sweet 557 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,200 though. They know, they know how to sort 558 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,360 of keep me happy, but they, I think they're more opinionated 559 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,120 about things like when I cut my hair. 560 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,200 Interesting. And do they ever have an opinion 561 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,680 on you being too sexy? I'm. 562 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,960 Not sure if I ever do that. I'm not sure if I ever go there. 563 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,600 Really. No, not really. 564 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,920 No. They don't sort of go oh. 565 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,440 No, because teenage boys can be quite well protective of their 566 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480 mothers. Well, absolutely not. 567 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,640 Not yet. Or maybe I haven't been daring 568 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,120 enough recently. I don't know. 569 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,480 But not not yet. But they, they are opinionated. 570 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,560 They do. Yeah, Yeah, they they. 571 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,440 It's funny, actually. You're making me think now. 572 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,120 Yeah, yeah, they they love fashion. 573 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,400 Fundamentally, who do you think you dress for? 574 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,320 It's interesting me. Good. 575 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,200 Me. Love that. 576 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,320 Well, I I think I can be lazy. I mean, I like, you know, that's 577 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,120 the problem because I can go. You can very much get into that 578 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,440 sort of, oh, well, I'm just not doing a lot today so I'll put 579 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,280 the gym go back on. So that's not good. 580 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,680 And that's why I want to I I'm going to have my wardrobe 581 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,640 overhaul. I've had it in my brain. 582 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,120 It's, you know sort of spring, summer, get, get that sorted. 583 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,560 But I I definitely feel like I I dress for me. 584 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,440 I don't know if I've ever really dressed for anyone else. 585 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,080 Like I I don't. I think that's dangerous 586 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,600 territory. Yeah, I I totally agree. 587 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,040 I I think you know if you start doing that you know you're not 588 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:10,760 you are you. No. 589 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,000 You're you're keeping someone happy or and also your partner 590 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,520 should be. You know as long as you are 591 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,520 presentable. And I think I I always do look 592 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,360 presentable. They they will. 593 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,000 I'll have to make do with what I'm wearing. 594 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:32,160 Hardly making do with you, girl. When you want to feel empowered, 595 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:38,560 what would you reach for? I I would probably wear I'd be 596 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:45,000 smarter and I'd be wear more more body, body con, less 597 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,400 slouchy. Neat. 598 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:52,000 Neater and a bit more sexy, strong kind of woman. 599 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,400 Yeah, yeah, funny enough. More more sort of proving my 600 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,640 femininity and my, you know what I've got. 601 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,200 And so probably. Does that make sense? 602 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,480 Absolutely. Yeah, I I wouldn't be hiding. 603 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,320 Behind anything. And I mean talking about hiding, 604 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,960 you know we all have clothes that we love to cocoon in. 605 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,880 And I know that you are. You went through a divorce. 606 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,880 Yeah. And that's always a or it. 607 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:25,640 It often is a very complex time. Was that a time that you used 608 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,360 clothes in any way to cocoon you? 609 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,560 I'm. Not sure if I did. 610 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,680 If I'm honest with you, I was working so much that I was 611 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,080 always in work clothes. Yeah, I was always running 612 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:45,520 about, you know, probably I I did and I'm trying to think back 613 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,440 and I probably blocked a lot of of it out because it's it's it 614 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,080 wasn't very nice period of my life. 615 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,800 You you then in your own time. Yeah. 616 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,000 I would be wearing comfortable clothes more and I I actually, 617 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,800 probably funny enough when I was younger I never wore trainers as 618 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,040 much as I do now I'm talking fashion trainers. 619 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,520 So maybe that came into play a bit because now I mean I've got 620 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,040 a bit of a heel on today for you, but usually I've got 621 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,160 trainers on because I always felt like I wasn't tall enough 622 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,720 or I don't know, I needed to wear a heel and that that's a 623 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,920 funny confidence thing. But but I think probably, yeah, 624 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,960 you're right. Looking back, I think I 625 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:35,080 definitely got into the swing of more comfort dressing, certainly 626 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:40,240 footwear maybe maybe there that went maybe that was sort of hand 627 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,760 in hand at that time. I don't know. 628 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,680 It's interesting. Possibly would you consider you 629 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:54,960 have a style icon? There are a couple of people I I 630 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,680 love what what they wear and their look. 631 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,680 And I mean, I love Cate Blanchett is just about another 632 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,720 level to me. I just love that woman, doesn't 633 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,520 she? I just love her look. 634 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,200 Yeah. I love her style, her, just 635 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,520 everything about her. Yeah. 636 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,680 Wonderful. Yeah. 637 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,200 But then she's got a very different look to someone like 638 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,200 Helena Christianson, who I still love and I met her at. 639 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,960 I served her in Joseph when I was. 640 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,120 I know. And she was with Michael 641 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,320 Hutchins, actually. And she was the the most 642 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,640 beautiful woman. I was just saying like, she's so 643 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,880 kind and stunning. And I'm sure you. 644 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,240 Yeah, you've worked with her loads. 645 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,120 I mean, she can make a bin bag look like a. 646 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,960 But she's quite boho. She's very, very not my style. 647 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,800 But I look at her and go, My goodness, how you put things 648 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,800 together and funny isn't. It Well, it's effortless, isn't 649 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,680 it? I mean, I I do. 650 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,960 You follow her on. You must follow her on 651 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200 Instagram. She literally makes my day 652 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,560 better. If I look at her, if I feel just 653 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,560 a bit, kind of. I don't mean the look of her. 654 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,560 I just love her whole sort of. She's like a ray of sunshine. 655 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,680 She loves life. She has this lovely, she loves 656 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,800 animals and all that. And she has family. 657 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,360 I just love that woman. She's very different to Cate 658 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,400 Blanchett. Cate Blanchett just is style 659 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,920 icon to me in in whatever. She wears red carpet. 660 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,239 Her films, it's flawless. She's an Armani, you know Muse. 661 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,400 Isn't she flawless, beautiful. Who else do I love? 662 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:27,600 I I just love sort of simple chic. 663 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,880 I'm trying to think of more people. 664 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,000 People that I. That I really love, but but it 665 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,000 there are people I love that I wouldn't necessarily wear what 666 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,719 they're wearing because it wouldn't suit me like Helena, 667 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,760 but I I really love that about them. 668 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,239 And I I kind of think, gosh, you look great and I wish I could do 669 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,239 that. Now you must get asked to have 670 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:55,120 your portrait taken quite a lot. Are you very in control of your 671 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,200 image? So do you? 672 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,560 Do you not let people take you out of your comfort zone in 673 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,000 terms of your hair, your makeup, who you are as a person? 674 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,680 Well, it depends. I mean, I think, I think it's 675 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,280 different being a presenter you're not an actress, you're 676 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,760 not a model, you're So it depends. 677 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,840 I mean, but then saying that you do some work where you are 678 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,920 playing a character you are. So that that's an interesting 679 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,120 question because I've done shoots, magazine shoots, front 680 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,240 covers, whatever, where I am not me necessarily. 681 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,640 I'm not. They want to make me look 682 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,160 different and that is very uncomfortable for me, is it? 683 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,400 Yeah, completely. And I because I am a bit of a 684 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,960 control freak when it comes. To And then do you say to them, 685 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,920 no, I don't want you to do that with my hair or my makeup, or I 686 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,000 don't want to wear that? I think it's called finding a 687 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,880 happy balance where I'm I'm like, oh, hang on, oh, and then 688 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,160 I'm like, please, can we just go back that way a little bit. 689 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,480 But you know I think it's important to work with people. 690 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,760 I I've been very lucky and I obviously I work with lots of 691 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:08,480 people who I don't choose on a shoot necessarily every makeup 692 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,320 artist you know don't always have that that that sort of joy 693 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,320 do you or and also you've got to trust the team but it is lovely 694 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,080 working with your own people because they know you. 695 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,800 They know you. I mean one of my makeup artists, 696 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:26,320 Amanda Grossman, she she actually, she's very good at, 697 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,200 she knows me, but she also knows how to push it a bit with me and 698 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,480 I trust her. That's really and so does Emma, 699 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,280 my stylist. It's very important to have 700 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,120 that. Have you ever been taken sort of 701 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:40,640 out of your comfort zone and then looked at yourself later in 702 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,800 a picture or in even in the mirror before you go in front of 703 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,320 the camera and go and oh, actually I quite like. 704 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,080 That well, actually it was. It was many moons ago. 705 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,480 I'm trying to think when it was before kids, I'm pretty sure it 706 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,720 would be. It was AGQ front front cover and 707 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,200 it was really powerful. Hello. 708 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,000 Sorry. Well, a GQ front cover. 709 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,880 That's not nothing. That was just a great throwaway. 710 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,640 Yeah. No, no. 711 00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:05,960 Well, I know. I mean, I've done, I'm lucky 712 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,720 enough to have done these things mainly many moons ago. 713 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:14,920 But I I was very uncomfortable with the idea it was swimwear 714 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,760 because I was not going to do the whole really old. 715 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,160 And it was I I've never wanted to really do that whole sexy. 716 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,720 Not wear a lot. No. 717 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,240 If I do a cover and it's for one of those sorts of magazines, 718 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:33,160 it's got to be about strength and a strong, empowered woman. 719 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,520 So it was, it was a costume and it was strong and the hair was 720 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,120 down, but it wasn't, It wasn't too long. 721 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,040 My hair, actually. It worked. 722 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,040 And I remember thinking, Oh my goodness, this is terrifying. 723 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,040 Looking back and going that, that's great. 724 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,720 That's like, not me, but I like it. 725 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:52,640 And I think it's quite important sometimes to play that role, 726 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,200 play another character. Yeah. 727 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,400 Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no. 728 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,560 And it's quite fun doing that. Yeah. 729 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,880 Now and again and playing around with different. 730 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,120 I think it's really nice to put the trust in other people and 731 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,280 go, I think you'd look great like this. 732 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,040 Please just trust us. I've done a lot of that. 733 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,760 Sometimes it works and I've gone. 734 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,040 I like those pictures. Sometimes I've gone No, I I and 735 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,560 that's just me. That's my my. 736 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,680 I'm in my comfort zone. I think. 737 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,040 I think you probably know what I mean. 738 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,160 It's it's when someone tries to push you and you're like not 739 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,520 sure about that. But interesting, Interesting. 740 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,720 Do you do you have quite a big wardrobe? 741 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,240 At the moment, bigger than I want, because as I, you know, 742 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,120 I'm going to Chuck it all, I've decided. 743 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,680 I know how. We're talking about it. 744 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,320 What's the process? Are you just going to pull it 745 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,000 all out and then decide what goes back in? 746 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,760 I I will. I sort of know what I want to 747 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:50,520 get rid of things that don't work now or that I I just want 748 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,240 to change it up. So there is a lot of Deadwood in 749 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:56,960 there that I know what's coming out. 750 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,960 But then there's those question marks, you know, those those 751 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,360 bits that you've had and maybe had for a long time and you sort 752 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,440 of think I I don't want to Chuck you, but I don't really know if 753 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,440 you really fit in my life, but you don't really want it. 754 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,200 It's it's very difficult to part with some items of clothes 755 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,120 isn't. It so will you have someone with 756 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,120 you during the? Grind me gently. 757 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,080 Do you know I I want to do it on my own. 758 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,520 Yeah. I might ask my stylist to gently 759 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,000 help me with those little. The final. 760 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,200 Yeah, the final. Cut and what will you do with 761 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,360 what gets cut? I I give everything to charity 762 00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:40,120 and always an animal charity. Different charities different 763 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,280 charities to no I mean I've given I've given a lot to 764 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:54,120 families and people who I know who work with with families who 765 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,840 haven't got many things and and and it's a bit like children's 766 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,320 clothes. I'm always, always giving away 767 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,840 kids, the kids clothes and we we give those to children who who 768 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,240 just don't have enough. And you know I'm always saying 769 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,320 to my kids, come on let's do another clear out because. 770 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,320 Yeah, it's really important. We don't Chuck think. 771 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,720 I mean, I barely Chuck. I don't even Chuck anything from 772 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:16,360 the fridge. We use everything. 773 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,840 I'm a hate waste. It's really not. 774 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,840 There's no excuse for that now. But I'm really mindful about 775 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:28,360 helping people And yeah, I was thinking of doing like a sale or 776 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,000 or something. But I mean, I I, I, you know, 777 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,760 generally I will go and bag it up and give it to charity. 778 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,600 Yeah. And and I hope that that will 779 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,160 help some. They will help somebody in in 780 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,600 whatever way in. One way or another. 781 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,560 Yeah, yeah. And also you, you know, even if 782 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,280 things have got holes in the fabric, can be used again and 783 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,000 again. Yeah, and we shouldn't be 784 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,600 chucking. Anything away we've become. 785 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,800 I am. Are too disgusting. 786 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,200 Yeah, you know, we we live the way we live is can be just 787 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,960 awful. The waste and the buying too 788 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,240 much. And I mean I I I hardly ever 789 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:05,360 really buy any new clothes or new shoes or anything. 790 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,480 I wear the same stuff, which is why I might as well just have a 791 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,640 capsule wardrobe with some newer items that make me feel better 792 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,400 and just a bit fresher. But I really very rarely because 793 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,640 I just think I can't. Why am I justifying this, you 794 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,640 know, when there's so much going on in the world? 795 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,600 Totally. Do you ever buy vintage? 796 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,840 I have, yeah. I have done haven't for a while, 797 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,640 but I'm all for again. Giving away bags and things that 798 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,880 you know I've had that I won't use again. 799 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,000 But I don't. I don't want it sitting there. 800 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,160 And I like the idea of vintage in a way. 801 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,840 Not fur, though. No excuse for fur. 802 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,600 Do you get gifted a lot? Yes, I do. 803 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,680 Very lucky. And yes, how do you draw the 804 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,720 line there? Because sometimes I, you know, I 805 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,080 talk to some people and and you just know that so much stuff 806 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,000 comes through their door on a daily, weekly basis. 807 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,240 Do you? Do people ask permission to 808 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:01,680 send? You generally, Yeah, yeah, they 809 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,080 do. Because again, yeah, waste is, 810 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,040 is not that. That's not all right, is it? 811 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,360 No. Because then they expect 812 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,560 something as well. And you're like, hang on a 813 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,800 minute, Something that I'm not going to wear it. 814 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,680 It's not very me. I'm going to give it away. 815 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,240 Well, if that. Do you know what, so be it. 816 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:21,280 If they send send me something and it's not me, I will. 817 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,320 I will give it to charity. What can I do? 818 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,200 At least I'm not wasting it and someone will wear it. 819 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,560 It's wonderful. But yeah, I do. 820 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,040 We do get gifted, you know, in this day and age that it's all 821 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,840 about gifting, isn't it? Yes, it is. 822 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,040 It is. It is. 823 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:38,320 Let's talk about travel. Do you have a go to travel look? 824 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,800 Oh gosh, as straightforward and simple. 825 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,040 Flat. Got to be a trainer or a little 826 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,520 pump. I can't think of anything worse 827 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,120 than travelling in a heel. I don't get it. 828 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,840 I have done that and and obviously sometimes if it's a 829 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,920 work thing, I'm like, oh, maybe I should put a heel on. 830 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,520 But really, travel for me is about comfort. 831 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,760 It can be chic. Yep. 832 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,880 And clean and nice and sort of, but it's it's all about, even if 833 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,880 I'm going to a sort of not, not going very far, it doesn't have 834 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,640 to be transatlantic. Yeah, it's all about comfort for 835 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,800 me. A good Packer or a bad Packer? 836 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,160 Very good Packer. Too good. 837 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,080 Too good that I end up going. I've got nothing to wear when I 838 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,240 get there. I'm no. 839 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:22,280 I'm very. I am very good at again, capsule 840 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,360 packing is my. I'm really good at that. 841 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,440 I think your wardrobe is about to have the most monumental 842 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,040 editors it. Doesn't know what's coming. 843 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:31,600 It really doesn't. But it is funny going away. 844 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:37,840 I've only really realised how I pack very little because I've 845 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,840 gone away with girlfriends for a weekend or whatever or and 846 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,760 they've got triple what I've got and I'm going, oh, have I made 847 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,760 an error? But it's very freeing. 848 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,200 Isn't it wonderful? Yeah. 849 00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:54,160 And if it's a holiday, you see a holiday for me means a holiday. 850 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,760 It doesn't mean it's not a it's not a catwalk show. 851 00:43:57,240 --> 00:44:00,960 I'm very kind of, I'm really not into that kind of let's get 852 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,640 another pair of earrings out, Yeah, OK. 853 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,840 Take a few nice things, different bags, lovely. 854 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,000 But it really a holiday is a holiday. 855 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,720 It's for me, it's really important for me to kind of go 856 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:16,800 and switch off and it's it's quite cathartic not thinking 857 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,960 about all of that kind of stuff. I think that's also coming from 858 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,720 the world we've we've come from where there's a lot of sort of 859 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,680 wearing clothes and and being done. 860 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,440 Being on. On all the time. 861 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,800 It's nice to be off, isn't it? But then saying that, I know 862 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,160 that a lot of my friends, they haven't lived that life or don't 863 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,240 live that life, so they like to, you know, push the boat out. 864 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,000 Great. Be careful who you choose to go 865 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,440 on. Holiday. 866 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,880 I think that's the key. That's the lesson. 867 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,600 Here What's your favorite luggage? 868 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:52,000 I really like anything battery, bat, you know, that you can sort 869 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,360 of just. I'm not. 870 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,280 I'm not into very posh luggage at all. 871 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,240 It's simple and straightforward. In fact, I love nothing more 872 00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:04,400 than a big huddle. Yeah, just shove it in, you 873 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,720 know, a suitcase. Yeah, great. 874 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,800 But I I never. I never carry big. 875 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,000 I mean, I really, I'm sounding like I don't know what I'm 876 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,880 sounding like. No, I I don't take anything 877 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,240 anywhere. And I'm just quite organized. 878 00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:18,160 Fantastic. Yeah. 879 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,600 No, it's all quite low key and simple and straightforward. 880 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,440 I'm not really into the sort of posh luggage, no. 881 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,240 Guilty secret. What is the most expensive item 882 00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:33,360 of clothing that you've ever bought? 883 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,920 Now I'm not asking the price tag. 884 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,640 Here. Oh gosh, yeah, there's a couple 885 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,000 of these. We could be an accessory. 886 00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:43,080 I love handbags. Do you? 887 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,480 That's my. And your favorite brand? 888 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,800 Achilles heel is a Hamburg. I mean, I, I, well, I, you know, 889 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,560 a handbag. For me, it's like some people 890 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,760 would say shoes. Buy a good pair of a handbag. 891 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,400 Is on to justify. Yeah, I am. 892 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,200 I'm going round and round in circles here. 893 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,080 I have splashed out on a couple of very expensive handbags. 894 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:09,080 I have a couple of very expensive Chanel and other 895 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,880 hamburgs, but they have lasted me for years and years and years 896 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,080 and years and that is justifiable to me. 897 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,080 This sounds like a pounds per wear justification. 898 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,560 Possibly, but but that's not to be ashamed. 899 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:28,640 Of I would feel more happy buying an expensive handbag than 900 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,360 shoes which get battered. Or clothes that you might go go 901 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,440 off or they might fall apart. Yeah, you you pretty much know a 902 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,400 handbag's going to stay with you for a while if you've done your 903 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,560 research. Yeah, so that is where my money 904 00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:46,360 would would go. Yeah, love a handbag. 905 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,800 Hypothetically speaking, if your house was on fire, God forbid, 906 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,240 and you could only say one outfit, what would that be? 907 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,560 Would it be your Philip Blum suit? 908 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,480 Do you know I have a Bella Freud cream suit that I have changed 909 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,640 up so many times in the way of. I've worn the trousers with 910 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,360 different tops, I've worn it as a suit with different little 911 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,640 camisoles like that, probably that one, and various things. 912 00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:20,440 It's stunning. It's like the most beautiful 913 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,720 kind of wide legs, sort of, yeah, beautiful suit, probably 914 00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:27,080 go for that. Sounds like that's. 915 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,560 It's a gorgeous it was a really beautiful and again, not not 916 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,160 cheap, but I've got so much wear out of it. 917 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,560 And it's still that's coming with you. 918 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,800 Yeah, that's coming. And cream. 919 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,680 I love cream. It's. 920 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,880 It's beautiful, isn't it? Yeah. 921 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:41,800 Quick fire. Questions. 922 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,200 Little rounds. Love it. 923 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,520 What fashion advice would you give your 20 year old self? 924 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,880 Oh lots 20 year old self. Keep it simple. 925 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,480 What fashion or beauty trend would you consign to room 1010? 926 00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,880 God, there's loads flair. I'm not into flares. 927 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,480 I know the back. Your last impulse by last 928 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,920 impulse. By well it went well, though is 929 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,720 that good little Zara Navy jacket, sort of slightly gold. 930 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,920 I'd have to wear it to it to for you to see it. 931 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,680 Sounds not great. Short little, almost nautical, 932 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,200 but not nautical. Gorgeous. 933 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:27,360 Dress it up, dress it down. Sounds pretty good by Wool, 934 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,360 Gold, Yeah. Buttons Your views on tattoos. 935 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,560 I don't like them, don't mind them on men's so much. 936 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,960 But I wouldn't. I would never get one. 937 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,120 Beauty treatment you couldn't give up. 938 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,200 Quite like a Hydrafacial. High end or High Street? 939 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,760 Well, in general. In general, High end, bling or 940 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,840 bear bear, Minimalism or maximalism. 941 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,320 Minimalism. Couture or charity shop? 942 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,520 Couture. Crocs. 943 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,400 Cute or puke? Oh God. 944 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,960 I hate them. My kids wear them. 945 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,080 They're awful. Sneakers or stilettos? 946 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,840 I love both, but at the moment I want to wear sneakers all the 947 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,560 time. Skinnies, boyfriends or wide 948 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,160 legs? I'm loving the boyfriends at the 949 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,600 moment. Beautiful. 950 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,000 Body con or boho? Oh, body Con. 951 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:21,760 Sports Lux or rock chick Sports Lux red carpet or relax Relax 952 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:28,080 Color or monochrome Monochrome Experimental or UU cashmere or 953 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,960 cotton I'm. Going to say cotton. 954 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,080 Hoarder or Editor? Editor. 955 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,480 Shapewear or sexy lingerie Sexy lingerie. 956 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,640 Always tights or stockings. Stockings, I would say it, 957 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,600 stockings. Bikini or one piece bikini, 958 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,160 beanie or Berry? Berry. 959 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:51,640 Oh, love that. Yeah. 960 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,800 Finally, at the end of the day, what do you or don't you wear in 961 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,560 bed? Not a lot. 962 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,080 It depends. Completely. 963 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,440 Not a lot. I really don't like wearing a 964 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,160 lot in bed, 'cause it well me. I'm I'm with you, girl. 965 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,200 That's. Not the answer, is it? 966 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,560 No, it is it absolutely, absolutely. 967 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,160 Well, the answer is whatever you truly feel. 968 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,800 Comfortable in bed? Yeah. 969 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,360 Well, you got the right answer from me. 970 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,560 Can't believe I I said that. Oh, thank. 971 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,320 You love it. Love it. 972 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,280 Thank you so much. What a fun style journey we've 973 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,000 been on. It's amazing. 974 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,680 Thank you for your. Thank you so much, I've learnt 975 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,840 so much as well. What about yourself? 976 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,640 Yes, bit of bit of self examination it feels like. 977 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,240 You know, you've given me a bit of major therapy here. 978 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:39,640 It's wonderful. Thank you. 979 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:40,040 So. Much. 980 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,080 Oh, it's a pleasure. Thank you.