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Today I'm going on a sartorial 
Journey with the TV and radio 

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presenter and all-round 
Trailblazer. 

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The wonderful Anita Ronnie and 
eater welcome. 

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It's such a pleasure to have you
here and to be taken on a 

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naughty Journey with a glass of 
champagne, I know. 

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Well if you're going to open 
your fabulous fridge and it's 

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just full of beautiful bottles 
of champagne, it felt wrong not 

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to have a glass and a number 
completely wrong, completely 

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wrong. 
And And I was saying to you 

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earlier, I feel like I know you 
so well, because I listened to 

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your wonderful Memoirs, the 
right sort of girl. 

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And as I went on this incredible
journey with you in which you 

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navigate Life, as a young Asian 
woman growing up in Bradford, 

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where you said there was just 
nothing, no one that looks like 

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me. 
And that just really pulled on 

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my heartstrings to tell me a 
little bit about that. 

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Well first, Thank you for 
listening to my Memoir and I'm 

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sorry that you had my Northern 
Voice. 

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I am ringing. 
Anyways, it's on myself, and 

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yeah, and that's the reason I 
wrote it, I guess I find myself 

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as someone who's kind of worked 
up in this industry in a 

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industry. 
That really there was no one 

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like me especially 20 years ago 
and I've after 20 years of 

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working away and getting to a 
place where I have a level of 

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success It felt the right time 
to now, talk about how I got 

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there, because I remember 
feeling. 

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There was no one who looked like
me when I was a growing up in 

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Bradford's, in Suburban 
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And so during lockdown, I got no
one that looked like you on 

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television television. 
In any of the culture that I was

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consuming like mad. 
Yeah, in my little bedroom, the 

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Magazine's I was reading the TV 
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I was listening to not that I 
felt at the time because I was 

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just absorbing culture. 
And the thing is, you stories 

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are stories, right? 
So if you're watching somebody 

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on telly or you're looking at 
fashion magazines, you Just 

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because you don't see yourself 
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can't, I dint you find a way of 
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subconscious level. 
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It made me feel like an 
outsider, absolutely, which is 

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really weird to think about, but
felt, and it's so that's why it 

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felt really important to write a
story for lots of people like me

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who just needed to know that. 
You know, I can understand. 

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And I think sometimes when you 
have a level of success, people 

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just presume that you might be 
privileged in some kind of way 

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or, you know, have had can have 
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through. 
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just like you and I get it 
because you really inhabited 

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almost two, separate worlds, 
didn't you, you know, you 

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inhabited, your, your home life,
which was quite traditional 

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Indian, and then, Going to 
school and you were probably you

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sort of in the minority. 
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I was two different worlds, like
my Punjabi home life and it's 

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really important to say Punjabi 
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been, you know, every region 
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And so every state will have its
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language and, you know, ways of 
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definitely be talking about 
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Definitely, absolutely. 
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But I'm Punjab is, it's just, 
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everyone tender e, food, and 
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And, you know, and the book I'd 
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It's kind of a culturally 
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gregarious fun-loving, very 
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also a migrant community and we 
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So, you know, this post the 
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what? 
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generation left and they went to
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mine landed in Bradford somehow.
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Bradford of all the places you 
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But actually now I'm really 
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Yorkshire because I'm very proud
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land and yeah, absolutely. 
I was the first my dad came over

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when he was 4, my mum when she 
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So I was the first really to be 
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crazy to think about my dad's a 
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I was only four when he got here
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born here. 
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we're the first generation who 
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worlds in the world of my 
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were done a certain way because 
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often meant that things got, we 
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when I went to school. 
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So once I mean I had school 
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mom made me a packed lunch once 
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Curry, and Curry, which is a 
deep-fried capacity, which is 

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absolutely delicious, but not to
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school as a seven-year-old when 
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sandwich was going to say white 
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I'm sorry, which is all I 
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All I wanted was a cheese 
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And why got delicious Indian 
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fabulous expeditions to for day 
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which was unusual for an Asian 
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adventurous. 
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You know, the Punjabi picnic the
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samosas, you name it and of 
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Now I when I get together with 
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corners of the earth we get 
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something delicious to eat and a
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Hannah picnic, right? 
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Bradford, it's the it's 
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So yeah, there was a lot of 
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lot of contrast in terms of 
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in terms? 
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would assume school uniform 
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your white friends. 
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never the only time I would wear
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special occasion. 
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households that where's my mom? 
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basis or a shalwar kameez? 
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my granny would, my granny would
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my dad, my dad was like, just 
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She thought she was going to 
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ballroom dance. 
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She had low romantic view. 
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weren't on the strictly. 
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That was, that's another 
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Yeah, we'll come back to that 
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the pub. 
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mum was like mum. 
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India but I think marrying my 
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Express herself in a way that 
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in India. 
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Her to get, she's got, We've Got
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A mummy like really skinny jeans
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fabulous, little figure and just
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drop. 
My dad is a very sharp dresser. 

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So encouraged her to dress quite
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Yeah, absolutely. 
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So mean Indian clothes were worn
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rest of the time I was just 
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western clothes and what was 
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When did you first understand 
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How How did it make you feel? 
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in my life. 
My parents had a manufacturing 

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business when I was little. 
So my my dad is an amazing 

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Taylor. 
Like he can, you will know this 

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because this is your industry, 
he can look at an item of 

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clothing and cut the pattern 
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Love that? 
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Yeah he's really creative. 
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So he can see patterns and that.
Yeah yeah and then but also he's

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a perfectionist. 
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Often he would get one of his 
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but then he would do it himself 
because no one could Stitch 

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better than him. 
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wants Justice and so clothes 
have always been part of my life

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and understanding clothing has 
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Growing Up. 
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though? 
That the first time an outfit 

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just made you go? 
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Yeah, we were going to India 
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It's one of the first times 
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And my mum is quite a strange 
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Mom took us to this lovely 
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Bradford and made me try on this
beautiful silk skirt and top in 

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a maroon color. 
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absolutely falling in love with 
it and feeling like a million 

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dollars and we got to India and 
my mum said, oh no, I bought it 

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for your cousin. 
I just wanted you to try it on 

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this cousin brings a story. 
She's now in nearly 50 and to 

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this day when we get together as
family, she'll say, you were 

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such a brat, you wouldn't let me
wear a you like it. 

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It's my outfit. 
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That's bad on my mum. 
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decadence and dressing up and 
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It's a Bittersweet memory of an 
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being surrounded by your parents
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It, you, it's in your DNA 
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Yeah, I love, I love style. 
But what I've learnt and this is

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something I've learned from my 
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It doesn't matter how much you 
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If it doesn't fit you, yeah, 
that's like so true. 

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Yeah, and he says, it's the mark
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on you is whether it fits you 
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So make sure the shoulders are 
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And, you know, so that's 
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But also, as a to have a father 
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who has an aesthetic and is 
really particular about the 

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clothes he wears, it will go to 
weddings and my dad would always

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stand even to this day, you 
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They're very youthful. 
They're in their 60s but what is

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60, it's nothing right? 
But no, there were so and he had

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me very young. 
You had me at 20 and he would 

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wear leather jackets to pick me 
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Oh yeah, love it. 
Yeah, it cool. 

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It is very kind, still like just
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and wasn't afraid. 
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Choice, how we decorate them, 
how they decorated the home, the

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choice of car, the clothes 
Oliver, I used to have long 

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hair, long, silky black hair 
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Wow, and hair is Mark a 
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Particularly punjabis 
particularly seeks. 

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Because, but long hair long, you
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very religious. 
Yes, which my family isn't 

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spiritual not religious. 
Like we're not, you know, I 

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wasn't brought up with, you 
know, we must pray, you must do 

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this, but there was a lot of 
spirituality around. 

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And anyway, my wanted, I was 
desperate to cut my hair. 

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My used to stand in for on the 
toilet in front of the bathroom.

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And secretly chop my hair. 
Once I lock cut too much off, 

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one side and my mum was like 
your punishment, is he going to 

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go to school with lopsided hair,
sent two beds? 

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And then like she said, look, 
when you do after your A Levels,

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you can cut your hair, you know.
So I was 18 and the day of my 

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last exam I went straight to 
Toni & Guy. 

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Did your mom know about this 
NEPA? 

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Yeah, she knew. 
And I know they will disappear. 

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He said it's not because we are 
strict. 

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It's not because we're saying 
you need to keep your hair for 

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some any Cultural or religious 
reasons. 

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She says it's just because 
you've got Gorgeous Hair. 

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She's beautiful beautiful as and
but my God Amanda it wasn't me. 

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And actually, I've had kind of 
shoulder length hair for a long 

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time and it was I've had it. 
I've had a bob for a while now 

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and I don't recognize the photos
of me with longer hair. 

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I'm such a short haired girl to 
know what I'm looking at you. 

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I can't imagine you with 
anything other than what you've 

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got this beautiful glossy Bob. 
It's really, it's a real face 

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framing. 
I like it short now and what it 

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does, it's funny. 
It's funny that for me. 

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The hair is, it's really 
important. 

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Now, my short hair is just 
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of who you are. 
Exactly. 

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Yeah. 
Because and I guess it's because

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it's so not the norm for Indian 
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really defiant. 
Yeah, I'm going to get my hair 

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cut short. 
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means has a significance. 
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off, did that affect your 
clothing. 

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Choices, did you change your? 
Style at all. 

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I don't know if if if it's 
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style is like Here, There and 
Everywhere, I feel like it 

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definitely finishes off my luck.
It kind of gives me, it makes me

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feel like me because me the edge
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definitely. 
I just there are certain outfits

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for I'll go. 
Oh yeah, that'll look great with

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because I've got short hair, you
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I know you're a well-known lover
of Music. 

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Yes. 
And you Dance. 

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And what's your do, how did you 
evolve your clubbing look like 

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her? 
Have it that way? 

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Yeah, and clubbing is a look so 
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so music has just always been a 
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you know, top. 
I was the kid who would stand in

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front of the TV. 
When top of the pops was on and 

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I was standing in front of that 
TV, two years, dancing. 

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Wishing I was in the studio for 
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Yeah. 
They can see me and you're the 

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greatest dancer in the room fast
forward to. 

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You know, when I went to Leeds 
University, I did a placement in

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London, in the music department 
of the BBC, remember program 

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called the ozone. 
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How was that officer system for 
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And then they kept me on in the 
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working on top of the pops. 
And so, how did you dress for 

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that? 
I mean I was like the most 

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casual dresser I have been 
obviously thinking about Knowing

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that I was coming to talk to 
you, but in the 90s, if you were

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a bit alternative, you would do 
anything. 

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It's like anti-fashion, it was 
baggy jeans and a little 

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t-shirt. 
Yeah, that was what I lived in 

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and I guess. 
Yes, Club wait. 

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DMS was definitely part of my 
look when I was at school. 

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It was all the kind of grunge 
thing that was happening. 

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I mean, I look back, I'm like, 
what was I thinking? 

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I remember going to India at the
age of 16 after my gcses with my

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best friend, Allison. 
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through the summer and we went 
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There's a very famous Market 
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where all the sort of thing. 
All the clothes that were made 

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from Monsoon and all the various
High Street shops, they kind of,

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and some of them end up there 
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and a long flowy dresses. 
And we went my aunt, I said 

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whatever you do do not get 
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you're from Britain and they 
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We as soon as we got there we 
just squealed. 

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My oh my God it's so amazing. 
But anyway, so just dressed in 

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kind of these long floaty dress.
With DMS and lots of Indian, 

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jewelry, tons of Bangles and 
then got to UNI and was into got

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into clubbing and clubbing is 
really interesting. 

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Particularly back then you know 
drum'n'bass clubs. 

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You think there's no fashion 
because it's just people in 

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Street web actually. 
It's really calculated a lot of 

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fashion. 
Yeah so much and it's all sort 

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of coming back like a V. 
Su jeans was a real thing real 

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skater where I'd love a pair of 
EC jeans. 

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Now I'm actually trying to 
Source myself a like it's so sad

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that 20 years on. 
I'm still in Doc, Martens still 

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wearing black nail varnish, but 
yes, but I love that because you

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knew who you were. 
Yeah. 

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Early. 
Yeah. 

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And it was yeah. 
And it was almost like, you 

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know, I why I went clubbing in 
my dad's genes which sounds 

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ridiculous, but it's too bad. 
You what did you built them? 

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Belted them with her with one of
my belts but I mean they must 

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have just looked ridiculous but 
now they were trousers. 

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They won't change. 
So just trousers. 

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But To wear my dad had a 
remember the brand Soviet. 

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Yep my dad is Soviet denim 
jacket that I used to wear big 

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baggy stuff. 
I'd I mean it's actually 

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thinking back you're right. 
It was a real sense of style but

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at the time it felt like I was 
making a statement about how I 

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really wasn't into dressing 
girly and I think actually it 

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was about sexuality, it wasn't, 
it was about me saying I don't 

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want to be seen as a sexual 
being. 

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I want to be seen as a Young 
woman, who is part of a youth 

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culture that isn't really about 
my sexuality. 

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I don't care about being 
attractive to men and it's kind 

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of complex and layered, you 
know. 

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But but and that's just from 
clothes. 

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Do you have siblings younger 
brother? 

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Yeah. 
And did he have any impact on 

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your dress sense? 
I don't think my brother did. 

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I don't think anyone did my 
brother actually said. 

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It's really. 
He said you know, Anita most 

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people have older siblings. 
Who have someone to look up to? 

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But I didn't, I did have an 
uncle my dad's youngest brother,

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who I guess is the person who 
was the biggest influence for 

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me, everyone needs a cool. 
Aunt, your uncle right. 

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This guy went to art college in 
the 80s. 

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A fabulous. 
He was so cool. 

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Amanda like he was so ahead of 
his time as well and so unusual 

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growing up in Europe and a great
dresser used to. 

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He had a year, he drove a VW 
Beetle. 

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He had big Parker jackets like 
massive DM boots. 

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Eyeliner, I need sweeping to my 
grandma's and houses her. 

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So it was permed and big and I 
but show it is so 80's and we 

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are talking 80s but he was like 
the biggest influence and then 

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as I got older, I would just go 
and hang out his hat. 

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His house in this beautiful part
of your Chuckles, salt are 

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amazing place. 
Where big, David hockney land? 

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Yeah. 
Salt smell is full of hockney's 

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and he just had the best 
collection of leather jackets 

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and he lend them to you. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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We shopping David, he was, and 
he lived as an artist and lived 

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really lived as an artist. 
So we just, you know, get drunk 

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together on a Friday and talk 
about music and sounds like us 

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on a Tuesday afternoon, really 
taught me about living, really 

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taught me about living, but 
really taught me about again, 

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aesthetic and choice and 
individualism, and being 

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something not being afraid to be
different. 

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I love that. 
I mean, because fundamentally, 

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who would you say you dress for?
Do you dress for yourself your 

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husband? 
UND your audience other women? 

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I, I think I dress myself. 
I don't think I dress for my 

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husband. 
Sorry, I don't, I don't 

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definitely don't dress for men. 
If truth be told probably other 

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women more than anything else 
and why is that? 

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I don't, I think there is 
nothing nicer and I try and I am

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this person like, if I'm in a 
shop or even in a toilet in a 

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club or a bar, and I see a woman
dressed amazingly, I don't know 

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how I will compliment him. 
Hallelujah. 

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I am a huge fan of that. 
Someone's got crazy fabulous, 

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hair or just amazing shoes, or 
whatever it is always. 

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I just don't think we complement
each other enough. 

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There's nothing better than 
getting a compliment from a 

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woman, especially a stranger. 
Yeah, I love it. 

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And you can light up someone's 
day. 

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Yeah, can change their day by 
saying, I think your hair looks 

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amazing. 
Yes. 

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And I've been known to go up to 
strangers on the street. 

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Yeah. 
And I, yeah, I love it because 

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why not? 
If someone does and There are 

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those people you can. 
And this happens in London, I'm 

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love living in London because 
it's the best city on Earth. 

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And you know, you're walking 
through a crowd of thousands and

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for some reason, one person will
just shine. 

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Yeah. 
Yes. 

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Why not just say to them 
absolutely because it because 

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that person's made your day, 
visually happier. 

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Yeah yeah. 
So I quite like you know when 

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for me there's no better 
compliment than a woman saying 

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you look great. 
So when you look great by the 

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way? 
Yeah, so yeah. 

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So yeah you have a Seriously 
impressive TV and radio career 

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must be said, but people have 
grown accustomed to seeing you 

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in your Wellies. 
Yeah. 

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And your raincoat on the country
file. 

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How does that make you feel? 
Because you're a super stylish 

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chick and then you're out in a 
wet and windy muddy field in 

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your Wellies and your raincoat? 
Yeah. 

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So when I joined country file 
country of has a really 

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interesting point where you're 
right, like, My it's I've had to

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blend my street style with being
in the countryside, so when I 

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first got the job, I rocked up 
in box fresh trainers. 

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I remember being on this farm 
and I'm getting an email from 

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the country filed. 
God saying, usually Anita we 

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wear Wellington Boots, we own a 
farm like, okay, the only well, 

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he's I had a mother like you 
know, these Cheapo ones that I 

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probably bought in a petrol 
station, you know, just just for

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one action or functional and you
can't wear those On a tower 

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shoot day in the middle of 
January for your fries. 

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Yeah, so I went down to this 
amazing shop. 

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Pharaohs of London on Palmer. 
Yeah. 

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And I went and I just want, I 
want the Rolls-Royce of 

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Wellington Boots please because 
I, and what did they produce for

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you? 
Less. 

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Shamo their Fab hell? 
Yeah. 

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And the funny thing is, is I 
bought I rocked up in them. 

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I'm such a such a city girl. 
And every all the other 

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presenters are like, all right, 
Anita with you. 

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And well, he's one minute, she 
knows nothing and Now she just 

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rocks off in like, leather lie. 
Exactly. 

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Am I? 
I am so now I know more about 

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neoprene lined. 
Well, he's I can talk to you 

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about thing. 
Is I always knew about coats, 

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right? 
Jackets have always been my 

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thing because my feet but on an 
8-hour shoot. 

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Yeah. 
Fundamental I have actually 

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bought myself. 
Electric heated socks. 

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I am not taking any chances in 
the winter now, being cold is 

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horrendous. 
But yeah. 

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So I but I kind of refused to 
just because I'm working in the 

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countryside, all of a sudden be 
in someone did actually say to 

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me in a ghoul. 
Yeah, I mean, I love and love 

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outerwear, though. 
Someone said to me, I don't just

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get a bar because you work on 
country, farms, like, I live in 

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East, London, of course, I've 
got a barber, everyone's in a 

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barber, but actually I had 
Barbers when I was a kid, 

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because my mom and dad's, No 
made wax jacket so and I love 

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coats, I've got more coats, 
coats and shoes, and my thing 

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more than a handbag give me a 
nice jacket, you know, a nice. 

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So I've got so many but I have a
really. 

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Yeah, I am very I do like to 
have style and Country filed, 

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definitely a nice jumper 
clearly. 

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Yeah, clearly try and thank you 
for that because, you know, the 

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country is a very stylish place 
to as well as being full of 

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tweet coats. 
And well, he's yeah absolutely. 

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But now also So you're 
presenting on BBC Radio 4 

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woman's out which is I'd be like
one of my view were on and you 

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are amazing. 
Thank you, thank you. 

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Now I know when I came on with 
you you looked so super Chic but

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is there is there a Temptation 
because it's radio to just sort 

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of rock up in you in your 
joggers and say well no one's 

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going to see me or in this world
of social media. 

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You've got to be camera ready 
all the time. 

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So I on the scale of women 
dressing up and the world of 

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kind of women in TV and in the 
public eye, I guess I'm 

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definitely on the bottom end in 
that I'm quite casual, you know,

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it's not that I don't make 
enough. 

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But I mean, you know what I 
mean? 

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I don't. 
It's not like a she says that 

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I'm actually getting more and 
more glamorous. 

446
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:36,700
The older I get, that is the 
fast. 

447
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:40,100
So are the fact is a fact, my 
old house mate will tell you, we

448
00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:43,200
share a birthday and we used to 
live together and she said we 

449
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,300
both went through disappeared 
into our rooms too. 

450
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,600
Get dressed up to go out for 
drinks. 

451
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,500
Robert. 
And she came up all dolled up to

452
00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:51,200
the nines and she said you rock.
I turned out. 

453
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,300
I came out of my room and a 
vintage added us t-shirt and 

454
00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:57,400
she's like, any are you going to
get dressed up? 

455
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,800
I bought this today from a 
vintage shop. 

456
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,300
Like what more do you want? 
This is this is a classic added 

457
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:06,000
us t-shirt but now she when we 
get together she's like I can't 

458
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,400
believe it's the same you 
because she I'll you know full 

459
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,900
face of makeup and everything 
but what was the question? 

460
00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:15,200
Where did where did we go? 
It was about being on radio. 

461
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,500
Yeah. 
Yeah, do you care about what you

462
00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,300
wear by? 
I'm getting the feeling you 

463
00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:21,500
care. 
Yeah, I do more time I do now 

464
00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:23,800
more than ever, but particularly
women's our because I got the 

465
00:24:23,808 --> 00:24:28,000
gig during lockdown and we 
weren't going out. 

466
00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:32,000
So I had no reasons and not that
I was not dressing up. 

467
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,400
I'm not someone who just wears. 
I don't have. 

468
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:37,000
I think I've got one pair of 
tracksuit bottoms and they are 

469
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,500
ones that I could happily wear 
to the pub with a nice pair of 

470
00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:45,100
heels if I wanted to. 
But for me it felt important 

471
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,500
because Cuz I was going out to 
work. 

472
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,700
Yes. 
Which was unusual and I thought,

473
00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:52,100
right? 
I'm going to make sure and it's 

474
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:55,700
one day a week which is lovely 
but also its woman's hour. 

475
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,700
Yes. 
And it's like you know, this is 

476
00:24:57,700 --> 00:25:01,000
a new look woman's hour. 
We've got, you know, the amazing

477
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,900
Emma Barnett doing and it's kind
of it feels like I'm stepping 

478
00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:09,100
into a new era of woman's hour. 
And yeah, I quite like wearing 

479
00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:11,000
something interesting every 
Friday. 

480
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:14,500
How do you how do you plan your 
look oh gosh, I'm not a good 

481
00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:16,400
planner. 
I'm up really early. 

482
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,800
So sometimes I'll just have a 
think the night before. 

483
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,500
Okay, that'll do you'll know 
when I'm not really dressed up 

484
00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:23,500
so I won't take a picture. 
They'll beat Isis. 

485
00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:25,300
So thanks again. 
Thank you. 

486
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,200
Got ya, go, you know, photo 
today. 

487
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,900
Anita, you and your tracksuit? 
Yes. 

488
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,600
Let's swing around to your 
strictly experience just in 

489
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,600
terms of outfits. 
Did any of those costumed, take 

490
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,000
you out of your comfort zone. 
Everything like the first one. 

491
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,300
I wore I have never I am not 
somebody. 

492
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,500
Buddy, who is particularly, you 
know, Slinky or sexy or that 

493
00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:52,600
terrifies me. 
And also I don't believe a woman

494
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,300
that makes a woman sexy. 
I've always said confidence. 

495
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,700
Yes. 
I mean, I've been banging on 

496
00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:59,200
about it for long and we have so
much in common. 

497
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,900
I just, and I couldn't pull that
off. 

498
00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:06,300
Anyway, and the first outfit 
they put me in Amanda it had, 

499
00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:10,200
I've never experienced it before
in an outfit side ass on show, 

500
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,900
is it? 
It's a thing. 

501
00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:15,200
Well, lucky for us, but must 
have felt quite exposed. 

502
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:19,000
Really exposing and terrifying, 
but the funny thing is, when you

503
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,500
step into the bubble, that is 
strictly what you do in your 

504
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:26,900
outside world and what you doing
this strictly world, I could two

505
00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:30,300
completely different things. 
And the credit to the costume 

506
00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:35,200
Department because they are 
Vicky and her team are the best.

507
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,300
They are unbelievable. 
Unreal. 

508
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:42,000
And they make you feel because 
everything is so fitted and 

509
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,500
fitted to you. 
And the way they can stitch, You

510
00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:48,200
in and your boobs aren't going 
to go anywhere and you feel you 

511
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,300
don't feel exposed. 
You feel so secure? 

512
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,600
Can you tell me a bitter little 
little bit about the process of 

513
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,700
creating the costume? 
You know, you're doing the Rumba

514
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:02,900
next week. 
How how does that all come 

515
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:04,400
together? 
So it's all. 

516
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,100
So the first of all the your 
dance partner has to come up 

517
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:11,400
with the choreography and the 
theme of the dance and they 

518
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,600
might have an idea that they 
will take to Vicki. 

519
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,300
Like this is what we're doing. 
This is the mood. 

520
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,600
This is the, for instance, movie
week. 

521
00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:23,700
I'm doing the same dance too, 
she's cracking her head on the 

522
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:26,100
table, that's because my 
strictly experience with. 

523
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:27,800
So Bonkers, like, was I even 
dancing? 

524
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,400
I was I doing aerobics every, I 
don't know what was a 

525
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,900
acrobatics. 
But anyway, I did Unchained 

526
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:37,200
Melody from Ghost. 
So they had me in a wig, 

527
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,800
obviously, looking like the 
mimo, but so they have a theme 

528
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,600
and so, they'll work around it. 
But every single person on the 

529
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,500
program has a dummy that is, 
there's Yes. 

530
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:50,000
And they make it to your size. 
Yeah, life-sized Army and that 

531
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,200
they'll use that to to fit the 
outfit on during the week when 

532
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,400
they're stitching it. 
But these dummies change sighs. 

533
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,000
Well, I was going to say because
I mean from everyone, I know 

534
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000
that's been on Strictly. 
They've lost pounds and pounds 

535
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,000
or kilos or whatever during what
you've got anything to lose. 

536
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,200
But your body changing your 
body, shape changes death. 

537
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,500
Yeah. 
And you're training like an 

538
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:15,100
athlete yet incredibly fit and 
so they tailor it to you. 

539
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:18,200
You And then say, I don't, you 
know, this is my style, I think 

540
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,600
some people are more vocal than 
others. 

541
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:22,300
I'm one of those people who 
likes to please everybody. 

542
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:25,200
So you know, there are some of 
them I look back and go. 

543
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,100
I should have maybe said I 
didn't want to wear that but 

544
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:28,300
it's okay. 
It is fine. 

545
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,700
And then hair and makeup, get 
involved. 

546
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:34,300
And, I mean the hot and that's 
what it's all about, isn't it? 

547
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:36,600
Just go for it? 
I guess. 

548
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,600
I thought you were amazing. 
I really do. 

549
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,100
Did I actually believe I've done
it? 

550
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:43,000
To be honest. 
I haven't. 

551
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,100
I'm in or of it, do its Amanda 
Mmm, we'll talk about before you

552
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:48,200
agree to it. 
Talk to me. 

553
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,100
I'll, I was asked many, many 
moons ago and just thought, I 

554
00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:58,700
just think I would become sort 
of Step dyslexic on. 

555
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,400
I'm strictly, I love to dance 
but I just think it would all go

556
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,300
so wrong with the pressure of 
the cameras and all of that. 

557
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,600
No stress. 
No. 

558
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,500
It is stressful. 
I'd rather go to a club and 

559
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:10,400
dance. 
Let's do it. 

560
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:17,300
Yeah, let's do it. 
But coming back to A dress and 

561
00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:23,200
actually Heritage it felt like 
such a joyous moment. 

562
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:27,600
Seeing you wearing your sorry 
when you are presenting at the 

563
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,600
Queen's Platinum, Jubilee. 
And I never forget because I was

564
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,600
there, you know, doing my bit to
and looking up at a screen and 

565
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,000
thinking oh my God, I need that 
is amazing. 

566
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,800
Your energy think, cultural 
dress, I love. 

567
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:50,000
Will I love Of sarees and and 
so, what led you to that 

568
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,100
decision? 
Because that's how we started 

569
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:55,600
the first time you've worn a 
sari sort of to present him. 

570
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,200
Absolutely. 
Absolutely. 

571
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,500
And I don't know when I will 
next, do it, but it just fell. 

572
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,800
I don't know. 
Just became obvious. 

573
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,400
I was talking to I work with an 
amazing style is called 

574
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,100
Christian who helps me. 
So you know, it's very it's I 

575
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,700
love love, love love clothes, I 
love style. 

576
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,800
However when you when it's part 
of your job It become. 

577
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,200
It becomes like, it becomes like
a job, so you sort of need 

578
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,600
people to give you a hand. 
Yeah. 

579
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:25,100
And he sort of went, maybe, 
maybe you go for a sorry for 

580
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,400
this. 
And as soon as he said it was 

581
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,300
like, There is never going to be
a better time. 

582
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:31,000
Yeah. 
Then the Queen's Jubilee. 

583
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,300
I am, I have. 
And I've sort of got to my place

584
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,100
in, you know, the British media 
landscape where people know me 

585
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:41,400
now. 
Yeah, I feel like I can do this.

586
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,900
I can just step into and people 
and the reaction has been 

587
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:48,600
amazing. 
I was walking out for BBC and 

588
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,700
one of the black security guards
actually stopped me. 

589
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:54,900
It was quite emotional. 
And he went, you, you looked 

590
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:57,300
amazing and he also said, it 
made us all feel. 

591
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,000
Also proud, I and would not 
agree more. 

592
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,700
I mean, the whole Commonwealth 
must have looked at you and just

593
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:10,800
said, well, somebody must join 
nod to the Platinum to that it 

594
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,100
was yeah, such a beautiful pale 
sparkly. 

595
00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:17,600
Yes, you to hand embroidered. 
Yeah, Lucknow e. 

596
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,300
Embroidery at specific to that 
area. 

597
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:26,600
And somebody messaged me to say 
she said my mother watched and 

598
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,600
she had tears in her eyes. 
She was a doctor in the 60s and 

599
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,100
she was told she's not allowed 
to wear a sari on the wards and 

600
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:35,200
here you are, and that's going 
to make me emotional. 

601
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,800
So, you know it was a moment and
also there's a story I tell him 

602
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,300
my book about how you ask me 
about, you know, clothes that he

603
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:45,500
throws a kid every Sunday. 
We would go to the temple, and 

604
00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:48,200
that's when I would wear my 
little Indian outfit and I love 

605
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,500
dressing up. 
It I mean, nothing makes me feel

606
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:55,000
more feminine, or more graceful 
than when I'm in Indian clothes.

607
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,300
Especially a sorry, it makes you
hold yourself. 

608
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,600
Lately. 
I feel at my shoulders go back. 

609
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,900
I feel like a woman, I just feel
incredible. 

610
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000
I can't explain it. 
If you've what everyone should 

611
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,100
wear one and know what it feels 
like it's over put one on once. 

612
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,900
And yes you hold yourself 
differently. 

613
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:16,700
You do feel incredibly feminine.
There's something about those 

614
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,800
layers of fabric and the folds. 
And the. 

615
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,900
Yeah. 
And you're wrapping right 

616
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:25,000
draping. 
Yes, just it's very it's I think

617
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,100
it's quietly sexy. 
Yes. 

618
00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:28,700
Oh God's. 
Absolutely. 

619
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:32,600
I mean, it's literally one piece
of material wrapped around you. 

620
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,900
Yeah. 
And and then the midriff and the

621
00:32:34,908 --> 00:32:37,100
little blouse pieces underneath,
actually the blouse and 

622
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:40,100
Petticoat, incidentally, were 
introduced by the British prior 

623
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,300
to that women, just used to wear
them. 

624
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:45,200
Wow, just material. 
I mean, but a side boob going to

625
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,200
slow food. 
Yeah. 

626
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,200
But yes, I wore every Sunday, 
I'd wear a little Indian outfit 

627
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,100
and then the ice cream van would
come on Sunday afternoon. 

628
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:55,300
But by, then I'm back in my 
jeans rolling around. 

629
00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:57,200
But this one Sunday the ice 
cream van caught. 

630
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,800
Me and I was still in my Indian 
outfit and I went out and my 

631
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:03,600
neighbors who I used to play 
with all the kids, you know, 

632
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:07,100
kind of didn't like, they were 
like well what you know, what 

633
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:09,300
are you doing? 
Wearing this close and I just 

634
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:12,500
felt really ashamed. 
And oh, that is beautiful. 

635
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:16,400
I remember that moment in the 
book and it really it, I found 

636
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,600
it really heartbreaking because 
they referred to you as one of 

637
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,300
them. 
Yeah, we didn't know you're one 

638
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:23,100
of them. 
Yeah. 

639
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Which is a I mean it's because 
it was a wreck. 

640
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,300
I mean, and racism is something 
that I've grown With and it's 

641
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:31,500
all, you know it's just a fact 
of growing up in Britain at that

642
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:35,800
time, but it really, it was a 
moment that just exposed how 

643
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,900
intricately you have to live 
your life. 

644
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,000
We have to live navigate our 
lives back then between when 

645
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,300
where and when do you turn up 
who you are? 

646
00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:46,800
And when do you turn it down? 
Yeah. 

647
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,800
And to some extent I had to do 
it even in my career, you know, 

648
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:54,000
it's definitely getting to a 
point now where I am just you 

649
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,200
are who volume. 
Yes, it feels like over the last

650
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:57,900
couple. 
Couple of years. 

651
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:02,200
I feel like the real Andi. 
Tehrani is out there full 

652
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,400
volume. 
Thank God doing who you being 

653
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,900
who you are. 
And I think how much is there to

654
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:11,900
be celebrated in that? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

655
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:15,699
And the Jubilee was exactly that
moment after like boom, this is 

656
00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:18,100
it, and you're right. 
I think the last since writing 

657
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:20,699
the Memoir it's kind of you know
it's a different different me 

658
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,600
going back to sarees. 
Yeah. 

659
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:27,199
Ty can you tell me a little bit 
about your wedding? 

660
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,900
Because I love the whole Indian 
wedding. 

661
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,300
Are there amazing process? 
I will worry, I went to went to 

662
00:34:36,308 --> 00:34:39,300
India, to do the shopping. 
So I was actually thinking about

663
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:41,400
this before I because I knew 
obviously I was coming to talk 

664
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:47,800
to you and it's I was thinking 
about luxury, you know luxury. 

665
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,199
What does luxury mean? 
And how I have never been a 

666
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:55,000
slave to labels ever? 
I love and love something. 

667
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,200
That's well made I love 
something that's quality. 

668
00:34:57,300 --> 00:34:59,800
See, I love something that's 
good but I'm not somebody who 

669
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,200
has to have something just 
because it is a label. 

670
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:09,000
However, and so I know it's 
like, what is why is that? 

671
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000
What what is it? 
What is it about me? 

672
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,100
That can see that actually, just
because it's got a nice label, 

673
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:15,700
it doesn't mean that it is 
luxury. 

674
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:19,400
And I think it's because I grew 
up in a world where for me 

675
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,700
luxury, when my mum was going to
get dressed up, would be 

676
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:27,000
something that is made of silk, 
that's hand-embroidered. 

677
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Is, you know, somebody has 
crafted and that is true luxury 

678
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:36,400
with jewelry. 
That will be, you know, and just

679
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,400
the adornment of a woman. 
Yeah, I just saw it as something

680
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:45,300
that and to me, that is luxury. 
And so, yeah, the wedding was my

681
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:47,300
first opportunity to get 
properly dressed up because even

682
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:50,500
having said that I was a really 
annoying teenager, my, Indian 

683
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:55,300
clothes were very low-key, and, 
like a nicely made, sorry, but 

684
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:57,200
it doesn't, I'm not into massive
bling. 

685
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:01,500
But yeah, there's an amazing 
designer called sub. 

686
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:05,100
Yes, Archie, like, in India in 
the last sort of 20, odd years. 

687
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:09,700
There's been a real growth in 
high-end designers with their 

688
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:13,600
economy opening up. 
And so you get these Exquisite 

689
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,900
high-end designers, and I knew 
that I wanted to go and kind of 

690
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:19,700
by one of his. 
Where was he based? 

691
00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:22,100
I mean he's actually from 
Calcutta but he's got shops all 

692
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:26,200
over but I went to an amazing 
shop in Delhi and splurged on a 

693
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:29,200
war, a Or a maroon, not a sub, 
you're such a different 

694
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,700
designer, but I wore a maroon 
van. 

695
00:36:30,700 --> 00:36:34,500
I got married in November in 
Bradford by War and maroon 

696
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:40,100
velvet outfit with a lot with 
lace arms and hand-embroidered. 

697
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:43,600
Cuffs yeah, really beautiful. 
I just sort of Victorian feel 

698
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,500
to. 
It was bit bit mixed, it wasn't 

699
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:47,100
like a full and then a 
beautiful. 

700
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,100
Sorry, I'll show it to you one 
day. 

701
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,700
Oh, that sounds absolutely 
Exquisite. 

702
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:53,800
I call it. 
My big Punjabi, sweat Fest. 

703
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:57,200
Did you have many outfits for 
your wedding? 

704
00:36:57,300 --> 00:37:00,600
Oh yeah, I had a few outfits. 
Oh yeah, yeah outfits outfits. 

705
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,300
I mean it's a week so you have 
an outfit for your henna 

706
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:06,200
ceremony which is when you get 
your hand up on, you have an 

707
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,300
outfit for the morning of that 
ceremony. 

708
00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:10,800
There's other something you have
so many outfits for the actual 

709
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,800
wedding. 
I had one outfit for the 

710
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,800
religious ceremony and then one 
outfit for the reception and 

711
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,900
then you have an outfit for 
that. 

712
00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:21,600
We even have a ceremony where 
you cut once, you're married, 

713
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,300
you come back to your parents 
house as a married woman and you

714
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:26,000
have I wore another. 
Sorry for that. 

715
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:28,800
I mean, it's with the water. 
Some tools though sarees have 

716
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,500
got them all fabulous. 
I'm not they're not going 

717
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:32,600
anywhere. 
They're going to be in my 

718
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,500
collection and I wear them I do 
re wear them fantastic. 

719
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:43,800
Do you consider yourself to have
a style icon, or you? 

720
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,800
I'm stopping Immaculate. 
You are, am I like women who? 

721
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:51,300
I mean, there are so many 
different women who look 

722
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,300
amazing. 
I think individuality is what I 

723
00:37:54,300 --> 00:38:00,400
really like an effortlessness in
so that they just look like 

724
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,800
they're haven't even tried. 
These are guess style. 

725
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,700
There's a woman called Emmanuel 
alt who she's fabulous. 

726
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:08,900
Oh my God. 
Yeah. 

727
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:12,900
I mean she's French. 
Yeah but it's definitely go get 

728
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:16,500
some point. 
I mean just awesome bit rock and

729
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:17,400
roll. 
Yep. 

730
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,100
You know, she's got a jealous, 
ageless, exactly legs for days 

731
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:28,300
and I really like that. 
I like women who just are don't 

732
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:32,600
care about being fabulous. 
I aspire to that, I think the 

733
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,300
older I get the more fabulous. 
I want to become, I want to be 

734
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:38,300
in my 80s, Amanda just, you 
know, draped. 

735
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:41,200
Silks and just really with, I 
don't know, I just still 

736
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,700
drinking champagne, I will 
hopefully be there with you. 

737
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:47,800
And you just, how would you 
describe your style now though? 

738
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:51,500
I don't know. 
I have this moment the other day

739
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:53,100
you were there. 
We were lucky enough to be at 

740
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:55,300
the hello Inspiration Awards. 
Yes. 

741
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,100
And I wanted to wear just a 
really nice tailored something 

742
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:05,000
and I was I wore this fantastic 
Celia be sort of 60s, print 

743
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,100
dress, and I have never felt It 
more fun, this dress just 

744
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:12,500
brought me such Joy. 
I was going to say it was a 

745
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:16,200
joyous dress, it brought me joy 
and I just had a sense of joy 

746
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,300
around me. 
Yes. 

747
00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:21,500
And I felt like I was bringing 
Joy because of the dress and so 

748
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:26,900
I think I'm I don't know, I'm 
trying to be confident. 

749
00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:30,700
It's a weird industry that I 
mean where I feel like sometimes

750
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:33,900
I felt I've had two dressed for 
an occasion of fitting. 

751
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,200
Now it's about dressing for an 
occasion. 

752
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,400
Yes. 
But making sure that I'm 

753
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,300
comfortable in what I'm wearing 
that's it but such such good 

754
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:43,400
advice. 
Actually, in terms of getting 

755
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,400
dressed, do you have one item of
clothing? 

756
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,900
That means the most to you 
that's got real sentimental 

757
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,300
value attached to it. 
Oh. 

758
00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:59,700
I mean, I I have I haven't one 
of my, the artist Uncle, I've 

759
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:03,700
got one of his waistcoats so 
that's really I love that. 

760
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:06,000
I love a waistcoat and that 
comes out every now. 

761
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,400
And yeah, definitely, I 
absolutely love wearing 

762
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,400
waistcoats. 
Just a nice pair of jeans and a 

763
00:40:10,408 --> 00:40:12,700
little waistcoat that's it looks
really good. 

764
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,700
And I've got some of my Granny's
jewelry or jewelry is really 

765
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:18,500
important. 
Not that, I mean, I've got lots 

766
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:22,000
on today but you know, I don't 
know what I wear this Indian 

767
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,100
jewelry, but it's just, you 
know, Semental. 

768
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,700
Mmm. 
Well, how would you describe 

769
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:28,300
your style Amanda? 
Oh, we're not going there now 

770
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:31,800
he's, we people are supposed to 
describe you. 

771
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:35,800
You've got, it's just 
effortless, and ageless. 

772
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,100
Thank you. 
Thank you. 

773
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:38,600
That will do. 
That will do. 

774
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,600
I'll take that as a very good 
complement. 

775
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,900
Would you say you had a worst 
fashion moment? 

776
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:46,700
Oh my God. 
I'm sure of it. 

777
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:50,600
I think when I first started out
in Telly I didn't really 

778
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,200
appreciate that. 
You need to elevate a Ttle bit 

779
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,100
need to step out of your comfort
zone and I'm probably a bit, you

780
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,200
know, the shoes are probably 
made ya. 

781
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,800
I'm sure there's lots of 
mistakes, it's all there, but 

782
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,500
there's not one in particular 
that you go. 

783
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:09,500
Oh, no, no, no. 
I mean, I don't know. 

784
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,000
No, no, it's okay. 
We don't have regrets doing. 

785
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,000
No regrets, absolutely none. 
Let's talk about travel for a 

786
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,200
second. 
That's please do you pay 

787
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,300
particular attention to your 
airport? 

788
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:30,000
Look, You know, you're 
well-known high-profile, you 

789
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,900
know, are you aware of those 
sort of sneaky, snaps that get 

790
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:38,100
taken of you? 
I probably should pay more 

791
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:40,000
attention. 
No, I am. 

792
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,700
I, I mean, I loved who doesn't 
love traveling, but trout means 

793
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:48,200
to be somewhere traveling on the
road is just off free and on the

794
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,400
road is just my happy place. 
No, I'm aware. 

795
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,700
I am the opposite of that. 
I I just as long as I'm 

796
00:41:55,700 --> 00:42:00,500
comfortable and black pair of 
jeans cashmere cashmere is. 

797
00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:03,200
The thing though that makes me 
feel like I've actually become 

798
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,600
an adult and nice cashmere 
sweater to travel in as long as 

799
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,700
because I, you never know, the 
air conditioning on a flight. 

800
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,700
I always call it a hug of 
Kashmir. 

801
00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:14,900
Hug of Kashmir is what I need to
be indefinitely at trainers. 

802
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:21,400
I love trainers, love trainers. 
But like I love running and I'm 

803
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,400
not some, I'm the opposite of 
all the gear and no, Tia. 

804
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,200
I just run and run and run but 
I'm more than happy, just a cap 

805
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,700
on a hoodie and a pair of 
leggings and off I go, no one, 

806
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,500
you know, doesn't matter. 
Would you say you're a good 

807
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:37,800
packer. 
I should be the amount of 

808
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,400
travel. 
You, do you travel all the time?

809
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,400
I've just invested in some back 
separate, so you can put your 

810
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,200
t-shirts in one and like help. 
That's and does that help? 

811
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,700
Yeah. 
Is it? 

812
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:51,300
I mean, the amount you travel, I
mean, with country file alone, 

813
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,300
you're constantly packing 
unpacking on. 

814
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:56,400
Yeah. 
And and when I started makers of

815
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,000
international documentaries, I 
made a mistake of taking two, 

816
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,200
suitcases for a three-week shoot
in India and it was the worst 

817
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,700
thing because your Bamboozled 
it's much better to have a 

818
00:43:04,707 --> 00:43:07,100
uniform. 
Yes, much better to go. 

819
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,800
Okay, this is what I'm wearing 
on screen, and I'll just have, 

820
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,900
like, 32 shirts or three 
t-shirts that are white and I'll

821
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:15,200
just know. 
Keep it simple. 

822
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,800
Almost sort of girl. 
Yeah, I'm talking about wardrobe

823
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,200
secrets. 
You have a brand. 

824
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,200
That is a guilty secret. 
I mean no. 

825
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,600
But I mean hey we go, we are 
living in an age. 

826
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,700
Now where we know about fast 
fashion growing up, while a 

827
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:33,000
fast-fashion wasn't a thing, 
when I was a teenager, we used 

828
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,300
to shop in vintage shop. 
So used to go to a place called 

829
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:40,600
Blue. 
The blue-rinse in Leeds and buy 

830
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,900
all my vintage t-shirts 
blue-rinse. 

831
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:48,100
This smells like like a bad hair
style. 

832
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,700
And but then top mean, you know,
Topshop was for years. 

833
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:56,300
I used to love who didn't love 
that iconic Topshop. 

834
00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:57,700
It was brilliant. 
Wasn't it? 

835
00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:03,200
Absolutely amazing. 
And now I am I just don't just 

836
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,700
buy less, absolutely. 
Now I'm not. 

837
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,900
Now, I'm trying to buy quality. 
Well also. 

838
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:15,300
Yes, I think once you been used 
to buying a trade or having your

839
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:19,300
family make for you or whatever,
it is exactly really hard to pay

840
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:20,700
full price. 
Absolutely. 

841
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:23,000
Absolutely. 
I think no actually shoes. 

842
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,100
Am I guilty like a like a, like 
a really nice pair of shoes. 

843
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:28,700
Okay, so honestly, How many 
pairs do you own a lot? 

844
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:30,900
A lot. 
But it doesn't matter about. 

845
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:33,900
I'll never forget the first pair
of designer shoes. 

846
00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:35,700
I bought myself, you know, 
moved. 

847
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:40,600
And with nothing twenty years 
ago and that I will never forget

848
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:44,100
that experience of going into 
Chanel and purchasing, my first 

849
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:47,700
pair of Chanel shoes with my own
money that was great. 

850
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,600
And was it a Chanel? 
Which Chanel shoes before a 

851
00:44:50,607 --> 00:44:53,600
Chanel bag? 
Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely 

852
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,900
shoe, girl, shoe girl, 
absolutely. 

853
00:44:56,100 --> 00:45:00,900
But it's that first moment that 
first designer luxury brand 

854
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:04,000
moment, is, is embedded in our 
minds, isn't it? 

855
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,200
Yeah, I think it was because I 
knew I lied. 

856
00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:10,900
It's, I'm spending my money that
I've earned on this and I'm 

857
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:14,400
treating myself, which still for
me is quite difficult. 

858
00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:17,900
Yeah, it's really difficult. 
I can't get beyond that. 

859
00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:22,500
Do I deserve this? 
And am I really going to buy 

860
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:27,500
this and is it really like what?
But yeah you know that moment 

861
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:30,400
I've never forgotten that moment
I treated myself and I 

862
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:32,900
psychologically explain to 
myself. 

863
00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:34,800
Why am I allowing myself to do 
this? 

864
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,100
It's a lot of talk that got. 
Did you ever justify with pounds

865
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:43,900
per where I Justified it with 
you've worked your ass off. 

866
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:45,600
Getting that shop and go and buy
those shoes. 

867
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,900
You are you venting go and go 
and enjoy them. 

868
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,500
What if? 
Nothing. 

869
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:51,400
Do you feel? 
You've got an excessive amount 

870
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,700
of in your wardrobe shoes cuz 
all of it all of it. 

871
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,500
I think we just got too much 
stuff, haven't we? 

872
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:02,700
Generally, we really do. 
I mean swinging around to 

873
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,900
values. 
What's your approach to 

874
00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:10,200
sustainable fashion? 
Yeah, just not buying tons of 

875
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,300
stuff. 
So I like everybody because 

876
00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:15,500
things don't fall apart, you 
know? 

877
00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:18,300
It's just we're being told 
constantly that, you know, where

878
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:20,400
you do need. 
You need you need images 

879
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,500
Instagram. 
You know, every day we're 

880
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:25,000
bombarded with, oh, you could 
have this, you could have that. 

881
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:29,100
And so it's, you know, it's 
it's, it's gets into your head. 

882
00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:32,200
So on the I don't, I don't think
people should feel guilty 

883
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,400
because we're being pushed it 
but absolutely, we can all make 

884
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,200
choices and yeah, I I'm what do 
you do? 

885
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,900
Once you've got these clothes 
that you don't want to wear 

886
00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:44,400
anymore, what you do with. 
Well I was going to say, I mean,

887
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:51,000
obviously in in your TV life you
have I need quite a lot of 

888
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,900
clothes, obviously. 
So what do you do with them? 

889
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,000
When you've had enough to you 
rotate, do you archive, do you 

890
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,500
resell? 
So some stuff goes to charity. 

891
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:07,800
Some stuff goes to friends, I'm 
very good at gifting, my friends

892
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,700
Lu, ya know I've particularly 
popular especially if I'm having

893
00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:15,400
friends around and we've had a 
drink or two and then they're 

894
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,700
like, she's going to open that 
wardrobe. 

895
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:18,900
At some point, we are never 
going to leave with something. 

896
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,300
Saying, yeah, I'm really quite 
nice like that. 

897
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:23,700
I'm good generous friend. 
So, I get have given, especially

898
00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:25,700
if someone looks great in it, 
and I know I'm not going to wear

899
00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:28,800
it and she looks amazing. 
Take it, it's lovely, though. 

900
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:34,900
The circularity of fashion? 
I just love definitely, but it's

901
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:39,000
sort of done with you and then 
it goes on to have a whole other

902
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,100
life and hopefully another life 
beyond that. 

903
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:44,100
Yes, yes. 
But I think there's a definitely

904
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:47,100
a business opportunity for 
somebody to take people's 

905
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,200
clothes and Resell them for them
because if your time poll but 

906
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,100
you want somebody to do that, 
someone can do that. 

907
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:56,000
Yes. 
I mean there's a lot of there's 

908
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,300
a lot of that going on but it's 
a very complex business model 

909
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:03,500
but but I really do believe that
will break through. 

910
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,400
Yeah. 
And also now it's a lot of, 

911
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,500
there's a lot of rental isn't 
there? 

912
00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:10,100
So the movie rental and a lot of
it's a huge Trend to be in. 

913
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:14,700
Vintage will be in unique 
pieces, my not this amazing if I

914
00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:18,100
could get my hands on and Ossie 
Clark dress, you know and what 

915
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,400
you that's a A Timeless piece, 
just where that anywhere. 

916
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,600
And you're just, yeah, I love, I
found this amazing Laura, Ashley

917
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,200
70s, beautiful black 
floor-length dress in this heavy

918
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,400
cotton. 
We're just a bit of lace on the 

919
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,400
collar, high neck, and it's 
might want to just brings me 

920
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,500
such joy. 
And, you know, I'd rather have 

921
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:41,600
something like that pieces that 
will keep forever. 

922
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,800
And was that a piece that you've
kept forever? 

923
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,400
Or is that a vintage scientist? 
Find that I will keep forever. 

924
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,000
And you have any specific 
Vineyard It's spots that you 

925
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,700
love. 
Well, you're not going to share 

926
00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:53,200
them because you don't want them
read it. 

927
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,400
Yeah, now I'm lucky I live in 
East London and they, you know, 

928
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,100
there's a plethora of the 
antique shops and a lot of 

929
00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:04,000
varied people a lot of very 
stylish people in East London as

930
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,400
well. 
So they're good places to go. 

931
00:49:05,500 --> 00:49:08,300
Although someone did say to me 
if you want add is if you want a

932
00:49:08,300 --> 00:49:14,000
vintage vintage inverted, commas
designer gown, then go to this 

933
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,600
is what's the area in Manchester
where all the footballers live 

934
00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:20,100
because all four door? 
Or altering young? 

935
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:21,400
Yes, yes ring. 
Mm. 

936
00:49:21,500 --> 00:49:24,000
That's the place to go because 
all the footballers wives, you 

937
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,200
know, all the dresses that they 
don't wear anymore goes there 

938
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,600
the places to go shopping. 
They were probably 10,000 lb 

939
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,600
dresses in the first place. 
So, even vintage vehicle 

940
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,100
functions. 
Right? 

941
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:37,200
Onto quickfire. 
Questions sister. 

942
00:49:37,700 --> 00:49:39,600
Let's do it high-end or High 
Street. 

943
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:42,500
Oh, high-end. 
Now, for sure, bling or bear. 

944
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,500
Are playing. 
Yeah, minimalism or maximalism. 

945
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,700
Oh God it's difficult. 
Isn't it? 

946
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,500
Let's say minimal today to do 
tomorrow's different culture or 

947
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:57,100
charity shop? 
Charity shop? 

948
00:49:57,100 --> 00:50:02,700
Yeah, wonderful bug off. 01 off,
Crooks Que te puke. 

949
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,600
Oh my God. 
They're so I know I'm there so 

950
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,300
puke, but I know that like I've 
got mates who were like 

951
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:11,600
middle-aged men who are in Crocs
at the minute and think it's all

952
00:50:11,607 --> 00:50:13,800
right. 
But they're puke their puke but 

953
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,500
I might wear them. 
I've not got them yet but 

954
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:18,400
they're puke, sneakers are 
stilettos. 

955
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,500
I've sneakers for sure, skinnies
or boyfriends or wide legs in 

956
00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:26,200
terms of Gene our boyfriend's at
the minute, mmm body Colonel 

957
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,200
boho boho Sports Luxe or Rock. 
A chick. 

958
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,000
I'm in a bit of a mixture there,
a little, like, a bit of both 

959
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,600
sport. 
Rock, sport rock. 

960
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:41,800
Oh, I like that clamor grunge. 
Can't you see I'm a grunge kid 

961
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,100
but climbing up pretending to be
Glam at the minute party where 

962
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:50,700
our PJs party where Trend or 
Style Style hundred percent 

963
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,600
color or monochrome. 
I'm a bit of both but that's 

964
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,000
sake. 
Monochrome at the minute I'm 

965
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,500
feeling monochrome today pattern
or plane. 

966
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:06,500
Plain Kashmir or cotton cash 
order or editor. 

967
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:11,900
I'm, I want to be an editor, but
I have to, I'm going to come 

968
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:16,000
clean, and say I'm a hoarder 
shapewear or sexy lingerie. 

969
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:23,100
She put tights or stockings. 
I'm a tight scale. 

970
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:24,400
Come on. 
I've got them on today. 

971
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,200
Bikini on one piece. 
A one-piece 11 13. 

972
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,800
And finally any tehrani is one 
last question. 

973
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,500
What do you or don't you wear in
bed? 

974
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,500
Oh that would give it away. 
I'm just going to leave that to 

975
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:47,400
the listeners imagination. 
Anita, thank you so much. 

976
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,500
Thank you. 
What a fun Journey with you 

977
00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:52,000
today, honestly, we are now 
going to carry on with our glass

978
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,200
of champagne but thank you very 
much. 

979
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,000
I've loved it. 
Thank you so much. 

980
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,300
What a tree? 
What fun. 

981
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:02,400
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982
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:06,500
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983
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:10,100
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984
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