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That's zoe.com and use Code 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Style 10 for your special style DNA discount today I'm going on 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,800 a style journey with the British television personality, 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,640 entrepreneur and social media influencer best known for her 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,720 role on the reality TV show made in Chelsea. 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,520 The wonderfully witty and down to earth mother of three, Binky 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,440 Felster. That's. 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,960 The loveliest introduction. Thank you very much. 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Thank you. Well, hello and welcome. 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,560 It's so lovely to get you here because you are on an absolute 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,160 sort of promotional junket at the moment. 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,480 It's been a busy couple of months, let's just say that. 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,000 But yeah, beyond Chelsea. Beyond Chelsea. 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,880 So was this something? Was this your brainchild? 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,920 I pitched the idea last October to Monkey Kingdom, who actually 41 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:17,760 make Made in Chelsea with Channel 4, purely because the 42 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:23,680 amount of messages I got in my inbox asking for a OG Made in 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,320 Chelsea reunion or you know what, you know, we want to get 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,760 you back on our screens. We want to see you. 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,720 So it seemed like after having my third, I've come, I've 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,400 finally come out the woods, I'm feeling like myself again and it 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,600 just seemed like the perfect opportunity with so much going 48 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,840 on in my, you know, business life. 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,760 My kids are old enough now where you know they're going to school 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,000 or nursery while just still at home. 51 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,640 But I mean, he's he's in it and it just seemed like the perfect 52 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:50,640 opportunity to get a few of us together again and it's been 53 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:54,760 really good fun. Did you miss actually living 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,840 your life in front of the camera in any way or at all? 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,920 It's filmed very differently so I wouldn't go back to how Made 56 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:06,040 in Chelsea was filmed. It was very, you'd go to 57 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,480 location and you'd be there for hours and you'd do a probably a 58 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,560 three hour scene which would take which probably be cut down 59 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,400 to 5 seconds in the actual show. So having kids, my husband and 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,960 everything else going on, it wouldn't, I wouldn't have missed 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,000 that. But this is filmed very 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,240 differently so it's much easier. But I have missed elements of 63 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,720 being on the show like what this way is a really fun way of 64 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,680 filming because you've got, it's very fast-paced like me, you 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,760 get, you've got 2 crews for three of us girls filming our 66 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,440 day-to-day lives, business meetings, even like the school 67 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,000 runs. So it's very kind of, it's not 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,080 intrusive. And I feel like I just kind of 69 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,560 missed. I've never, I've never really 70 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,720 known why I love it, but I think it's just a bit. 71 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,800 It's just I, I love being talking to people and kind of, 72 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,320 it's just been really fun. It's almost like a diary of your 73 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,160 life though, isn't it? I mean, do you see it? 74 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,360 You're now in your 30s. Do you see yourself maybe doing 75 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,920 in your 40s or 50s or beyond? I just don't know. 76 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,040 Let's just see how we go with this. 77 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,400 I mean there's, we've only have filmed 2 episodes and if it gets 78 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:17,200 really good viewing figures, so catch up on catch up, we'll go 79 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,880 to series I think in the new year. 80 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,839 But who knows? We'll, we'll just, we'll just 81 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,480 have to take it day by day. Does What would you say was your 82 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,040 biggest life lesson from Made in Chelsea? 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,360 Cause of the way that the show needs to be interesting would be 84 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,680 people, you know, would want to have arguments on camera and get 85 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,160 their airtime. And for me, I was never 86 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,680 interested in partaking in that. I didn't care. 87 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,360 I'd rather not actually film rather than kind of gossip about 88 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,920 someone on camera. And of course there are moments 89 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,640 where you're actually genuinely pissed off with someone. 90 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,200 But for me, I think my life lesson would be just a kind of 91 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,920 stick. Be yourself. 92 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,920 And did you feel like you were being pushed to be someone that 93 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,120 you weren't I? Mean editing sometimes wasn't in 94 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,000 people's favors. I didn't think I was pushed. 95 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,760 I think I had a I've had a good head, a good head on my 96 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,800 shoulders. I think my family and friends 97 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,040 really kind of made sure of that as well. 98 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,120 And it didn't. Nothing went to my head, trust 99 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,880 me. Like I feel like I'm very much 100 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,400 still silly old me. Feet on the ground. 101 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,640 Yeah. Wonderful. 102 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,760 And last year you published your book The Making of You, a guide 103 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,400 to finding your identity and bossing motherhood. 104 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,120 What was the driving force in the message behind that book? 105 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:38,000 So it was purely because, again, I get lots of questions asked 106 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,560 about motherhood on Instagram. I had injured 26. 107 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,680 I had no one really to go to for advice apart from my mother. 108 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,120 Because your contemporaries weren't having babies at. 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,000 That time I was the first of my friends. 110 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,440 I had no one literally to speak to kind of, I mean, India had 111 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,360 reflux and I had no idea why she wasn't, you know, on her back 112 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,960 sleeping. She was screaming, she was being 113 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,240 sick, all this. I was like, what is going on? 114 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,520 I thought that was just a normal baby. 115 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,760 So I didn't have anyone to go to. 116 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:09,120 And the tips that my mom are very old fashioned, but very 117 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,960 kind of relaxed. And actually I think there's so 118 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,840 much fuss about. There's too much fuss now with 119 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:19,600 parenting, you know, you get, you can even get wet wipe 120 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,760 warmers for their bottoms. I mean, it's ridiculous. 121 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,240 And I think I've always been quite a relaxed parent and kind 122 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,160 of I feel like the kids feed off that energy. 123 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,480 And so for me, I had a company called Bloss where we'd work 124 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,800 with experts. So after each chapter of my 125 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,320 advice and how my story went, I'd have an actual expert giving 126 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,960 their advice on, you know, Co parenting, teething, whatever it 127 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,040 may be. So it's a, it's a bit of a book, 128 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,160 bit of laughter, sadness, and just hopefully really helpful. 129 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,400 You Co founded the talent agency Matchstick. 130 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:56,800 Yeah. You tell me about. 131 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,280 That Max founded Matchstick just after COVID and I was one of his 132 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:04,480 first clients along with a girl called lovely girl called 133 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,400 Georgia Jones, who's married to Danny Jones from McFly. 134 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,600 And we were his only two clients. 135 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,080 And he basically said, right, well, do you want, do you want 136 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,960 some shares and help me build this company? 137 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:21,320 And so I did and I and I kind of found some talent for him and 138 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,600 it's been really quite a fun journey. 139 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,960 He's amazing. What other projects have you got 140 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,880 boiling up at the moment? Because I've seen you've sort of 141 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,840 doing some work with M&S. Yes, Oh my goodness, I'm so 142 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,800 excited. I'm creating my own kids wear 143 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,160 range with Marks and Spencer's. Yes, I know. 144 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,120 I'm really excited. And what will that be called? 145 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,240 Just it, it's, it's just going to have my name times. 146 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,320 And I actually had my second design meeting last week in 147 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,120 their amazing offices and the team are just, I mean, I haven't 148 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,680 the team are just amazing and they're so lovely to work with. 149 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,080 And I literally saw my initial ideas, fabrics. 150 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,560 We're going through fabric samples. 151 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,320 And I just made sure that when I'm, when I'm put my name to 152 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,760 something, it has to be my design. 153 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,120 It has to be my ideas. I can't. 154 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,840 Yeah. Definitely. 155 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,920 And so just talk us through the process. 156 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,000 Did you create a mood board for them? 157 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,120 Yes, created a mood board just before summer for autumn, winter 158 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,320 and and spring. And then I basically used my 159 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,600 kids outfits that I've loved and I've kept and I've did loads of 160 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,240 research online. And then I went for my first 161 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,039 initial meeting at Marks and Spencer's where I went through 162 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:35,520 loads of fabrics and ideas, brought in those of clothes that 163 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,000 I love and they like lovely cashmere bits that you can pass 164 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,440 down to your other other children or, you know, give us 165 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,159 presents. We want everything to be 166 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,040 timeless. And what also I love about it is 167 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,120 that my kids hate labels and they find I have. 168 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,520 Because they're scratchy. Scratchy, irritating. 169 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,800 And I think it's quite common. And so I have asked if we can 170 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,360 somehow. So I'm spending my love cutting 171 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,840 them out of all the clothes. We've managed to find a way 172 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,120 where you can kind of thread it through another piece of fabric. 173 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,760 So it's just soft or you just kind of stamp it on. 174 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,040 But yeah, And there's little things that I say to my children 175 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,160 that I'm having like embroidered and so little things like when 176 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,640 India goes to her father's and she's upset, she just has to do 177 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:19,240 that. And she's got something written 178 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,120 for her there that we always little things like that. 179 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,920 So for people who are in the same similar situations. 180 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Oh, there's lots of like personal touches, families. 181 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,680 Yeah, exactly. Personal touches. 182 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,000 I brought a loads of little things that I kind of would 183 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,440 love. And yeah, it's just I'm really 184 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,000 excited. About it, and that launches 185 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,760 when. Next year, next. 186 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,240 In spring. Next autumn, I believe. 187 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,320 Next autumn, yes. Yeah. 188 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,720 Now today we're going on a style journey together. 189 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,680 Tell me what you're wearing today. 190 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,640 Wearing Veronica beard shirt. I think it's suck. 191 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,880 I don't know looks. Like it looks. 192 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,400 Like it's suck. I'm not gonna say I'm, I'm not 193 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,080 gonna lie to you. I'm not fashionably forward but 194 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,400 I've got my Veronica beard shirt, my Gani leopard print 195 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,360 jeans and my Elia heels which I mean they're all over my 196 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,560 Instagram as which which are. Gorgeous, but you've got a very 197 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:08,280 pretty foot in them. Oh, thank you. 198 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,320 So they work really beautifully. And your belt. 199 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,600 This is to hunch. My belt's to hunch. 200 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:18,160 Yeah, I think I got that right. And my sorry jewelry earrings. 201 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,440 Fantastic, fantastic. And why did you decide to put 202 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,000 this on? I have a stylist I'm slightly 203 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,680 cheating. OK, I that is a question I am. 204 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:29,600 Amanda, I let's talk. OK, let's. 205 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:30,240 This is why. This is why. 206 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,320 It's interesting because if we go back to Made in Chelsea, how 207 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,200 many years ago, 10 years ago, I would be rocking up on camera 208 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,920 with my holy baggy jumpers, my tracksuit bottoms, to the point, 209 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,400 my unbrushed hair to the point I wasn't allowed to go on camera 210 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,480 until the producers used to take off her clothes. 211 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,480 But oh, here she goes again. They used to take off their 212 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,840 clothes and put their clothes on me so I looked reasonable on 213 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,240 camera. I didn't care ever. 214 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,080 I didn't, I was just, I mean, I remember going, we used to have 215 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,160 these event days and one of the event days was a pyjama party or 216 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,120 like a lingerie party or no, it was a pyjama party, sorry. 217 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,960 And I rocked up in my pyjamas. But of course all the girls were 218 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,040 walking around in their gorgeous Agent Provocateur, you know, 219 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,240 silk slip, silk slits, looking amazing. 220 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,960 I was like, oh, sorry, I missed the memo here. 221 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,640 It's a pyjama party. Anyway, so then over time I've 222 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,680 grown up a little bit and I've been on laser photo shoots, 223 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:25,000 worked with amazing stylists and I love dressing up and getting 224 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,720 on a pair of heels. But I do sometimes need help. 225 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,600 I've got a good, I've got my eyes getting better and I know 226 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,080 what I love and I don't love, but Flick, who's amazing, she 227 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,280 tries to kind of make me kind of more adventurous with my looks. 228 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,240 Pushes you out of your. She does and I really like that 229 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,280 and she's brilliant because she does a comes over and she 230 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,840 declutters my wardrobe. She like has a massive pile of 231 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,080 that things that I need to get to charity and it's great 232 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,880 because I'm a hoarder. And does she? 233 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,440 And she calls in, looks for you. And she does? 234 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,480 Yeah, 'cause you. Looked amazing at the Pride of 235 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,520 Britain. Thank you. 236 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,360 Oh my God, you talked to me about that look. 237 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,600 Very last minute look, No, Yeah, the other dress didn't fit. 238 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:05,680 But that dress looked like it was made for you. 239 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:06,440 Oh. Thank you. 240 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,320 I did feel I did. I did love that dress. 241 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,240 Yeah. You looked like you loved it. 242 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,200 The theme was a hint of sparkle. So the sparkle bust looked quite 243 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,520 cool with the with the black. So you grew up in East Sussex? 244 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,960 I did. Were you very aware of your 245 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:25,520 parents style? No, no, I mean my parents style. 246 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,640 We used to go to Cornwall every summer and mum there was a crew 247 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,520 clothing shop which my mum used to have. 248 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,720 Do you remember crew clothing? But still around obviously. 249 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,400 But they it was very, very in fashion. 250 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,680 These big kind of collared oversized shirts with the kind 251 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:42,920 of big crew of sign on the back. Anyway, my mum and my dad lived 252 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,640 in crew clothing and mummy was always very glamorous. 253 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,040 My grandmother was incredibly glamorous and my mother was 254 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,400 always very looked a little bit like Lady Die back in the day. 255 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,120 But of course, yeah, I didn't really ever kind of look too 256 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,000 much into this style, no. So what were you wearing 'cause 257 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,640 you were in the country? I was down in, yes. 258 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,040 I was wearing sort of ponies and dogs, yes, very much so. 259 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,880 I was wearing Quicksilver, O'Neill or the surfing brands, 260 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,600 lots of riding clothes and so really functional Jodpas 261 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,000 basically most days. And wellies, yeah. 262 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,120 When When was the moment that you felt like clothes made a 263 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,120 difference to you? I. 264 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,320 Think it was after having India and I'd lost the baby weight and 265 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,880 for the first time I'd felt really kind of good about 266 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,640 myself. And actually I think forever I 267 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,880 didn't think I was India really kind of, I always say saved me. 268 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,240 She really kind of made me grow up. 269 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,920 And when I got myself and, and actually prior to India, so 270 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,840 before I got pregnant, I was working as the, I, I just got 271 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,960 the job as Reeboks UK Women's Ambassador. 272 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,760 So I was going to the gym constantly for this photo shoot 273 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,320 and I started loving it. I never thought I was going to 274 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,960 get the gym bug, but I did and I was obsessed with training. 275 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,440 And then I started feeling really good about myself, felt 276 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,440 pregnant with India, went back to the gym, got back into the 277 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,920 groove of everything. And then of course then I felt 278 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,760 confident in myself where I'd allow myself to get out of the 279 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,680 baggy jumpers. I think that's just a kind of 280 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:11,240 hiding everything. I hated my hips, hated 281 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,880 everything. So I used to cover myself up in 282 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,560 these big jumpers and shaky bums just to hide it myself. 283 00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:18,360 And Made in Chelsea allowed you to do that. 284 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,560 They would help you, but they didn't provide a sort of onset 285 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,760 stylist or wish. I'm never going to be the girl 286 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,520 that much as my my shoes with my handbag and my kind of fingers 287 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,840 like fingers. I feel like I'm always going to 288 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,680 be quite. I like to be underdressed over 289 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,320 than rather than overdressed. But also I want to be able to 290 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,880 eat what I want and not have to worry about holding my tummy in 291 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,040 like all the time. Do you know what I mean? 292 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,120 Like I want to be able to kind of feel comfortable. 293 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,920 Very refreshing. Is it very refreshing? 294 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,560 But I'm, I'm curious that you didn't really sort of feel the 295 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,520 power of clothes until your late 20s. 296 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,360 Yeah, because I never was confident in my body. 297 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,280 So I was always, always wanted to hide myself. 298 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,280 So when I was able, when I was feeling confident, I could put 299 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,480 on the more slightly more, you know, tighter, you know, crop 300 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,440 tops or you know, sort of dresses, whatever it may be. 301 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,200 So you're made in Chelsea style was oversized sweaters. 302 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,240 Holy. You were you were hiding. 303 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,240 I was hiding. What is your Beyond Chelsea 304 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,240 style? Got to be practical because I'm 305 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,400 with the kids. It's a bit of a mixture. 306 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,120 Mummy, it's mummy life and mummy business, mummy life. 307 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,720 So it's kind of just what I wear everyday. 308 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,440 So what's a typical Mummy life book? 309 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 So I love Varley. Yeah. 310 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,880 Because it's, I think it's quite chic and comfy. 311 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,600 And I don't mind if I get a bottle, you know, a bottle 312 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,960 porridge thrown over it. So it's, you know, I can wash it 313 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,200 in the washing machine. Easy peasy. 314 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,960 And I think that they've nailed it. 315 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,880 I think they've really nailed that kind of crazy chic look and 316 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,800 it's versatile. And then I feel like all like, 317 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,040 you know, a Jean with a kind of maybe a knit, I don't know, 318 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,400 anything really anything that's not white. 319 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,680 Yep, obvious reasons. And then your business beyond 320 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,000 Chelsea look is. I love putting on a heel. 321 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,760 I love. And the heels tend to be other 322 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,880 than you're a liar heels that you multi bought. 323 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,720 I like that. They have pretty much just a 324 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,120 liar heels at the moment. I haven't really started to 325 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,000 like. I don't want to be 326 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,480 uncomfortable. I was just saying I bought a 327 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,480 pair of Lobitons and they aren't the most comfiest for the hum 328 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,200 and I'm not going to be allowed to get my cost per wear out of 329 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,440 those I don't think because never want to wear them again. 330 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,360 They're so painful. But I think yeah. 331 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Or a nice ankle boot. I do lots of I like my trainers, 332 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,200 my Sambas or my New Balance trainers. 333 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,080 How many trainers would you say are in your wardrobe? 334 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,400 5 pairs. No. 335 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,600 Maybe sit, maybe fight, maybe a bit more, maybe 8 pairs. 336 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,640 Just like counting in my head as I'm going along. 337 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,760 Yeah. Got a few different colours. 338 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,640 I like the new Ali Das Samba colours. 339 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,960 They're quite fun. They're brilliant. 340 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Yeah. I really, I never used to like 341 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:08,200 them. I'm not really. 342 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,960 I like a kind of chunkier trainer like the New Balance 343 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,960 ones, but actually I really do like now. 344 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,760 Flick made me get into Samba's. Yeah. 345 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,359 Yes, but it is a progression, isn't it, going from that 346 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:20,640 chunky? Yes. 347 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,440 That gives you that tiny bit of a lift. 348 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,079 Yes to that. Very flat, quite slightly 349 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:28,000 dainty, yes, actually. Now you first got pregnant when 350 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,480 you were 26, yes. How did being a mum impact your 351 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,720 style? Again, was kind of not confident 352 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,520 with my body at all. I felt like, like most women 353 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,840 will say, when you have a baby, it does take away your identity. 354 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,320 I definitely felt like my identity was taken away because 355 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,000 I just didn't look like all my other friends who were, you 356 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,920 know, running around in crop tops and short dresses and, you 357 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,720 know, you know, whatever. And I just wasn't confident at 358 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,880 all. So I was dressing up in the kind 359 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,160 of the, my clothes didn't really have to change to what I said. 360 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,880 They're all baggy jumpers and did. 361 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,800 You, you stayed in those. I did for a long time. 362 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:12,000 And then when did this moth emerge from chrysalis butterfly? 363 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,720 When India was around 2, I looked, I was, I, I like to 364 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:18,800 think I was in pretty good shape. 365 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,360 I just, I was working towards, I was front cover of Women's 366 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:23,280 Health. So I was working towards that, 367 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,600 Yeah. And I was really strong. 368 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,840 And I love the saying strong, not skinny, because you have to 369 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,200 be bloody strong if you're a parent. 370 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,160 Like you've got to be carting those kids up and down the 371 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,680 stairs, the prams, you know, it's a it's heavy lifting. 372 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,760 And I was really strong and I felt really confident. 373 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,840 And that's when I guess I started like I actually got a 374 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,680 stylist, my first stylist, and it was his High Street clothes. 375 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,800 And I said to her, please don't spend loads of money on clothes. 376 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,920 Just maybe get like, I'd like spending money on handbags and 377 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,560 shoes and jewelry. But the clothes, my mom used to 378 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,240 say, darling, you could wear a paper bag and look gorgeous. 379 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,960 You don't have to be spending money on clothes at your age. 380 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,760 But actually it was quite fun doing that a little bit more 381 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,200 now. And OK, so guilty secrets on 382 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,080 handbags favorite. Oh I love my sham now bags. 383 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,360 I would never I would think I could ever spend money on the 384 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,680 Ermes bags. I think my husband would 385 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:22,040 probably kill me he that for him is just so confusing how that a 386 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,800 bag like that could cost so much money. 387 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,400 Do you know what I mean? You you've talked about your 388 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,320 body a bit. Is it fair to say that you've 389 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,920 been on a recent sort of body transformation journey? 390 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,360 Before I had got pregnant with India, that was when my body 391 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:41,200 transformation journey started, right, For this Reebok UK 392 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:41,840 ambassador. Yeah. 393 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,440 So that's when I found my love for training. 394 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,320 And I never, ever understood people going on these boot camps 395 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,600 and loving these boot camps or like loving going to gym in the 396 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:51,640 morning. That was never me. 397 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,520 And I kept hearing about this fitness bug. 398 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,120 And I'm like, why am I not catching this fitness bug? 399 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,840 I really want this fitness bug. And then eventually I did. 400 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:57,880 I remember getting up in the morning. 401 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,480 It's how I, especially after having India, it's my only time 402 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,240 on my own. And I found a gym with a crash. 403 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,960 I was like brilliant, chucked her in, went upstairs, did my 404 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,960 hours work out with my trainer. Finding a really good personal 405 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,400 trainer helps actually get me into that. 406 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,960 And that was my me time and I felt those happy endorphins 407 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,120 pumping around my body and that set me up for the rest of the 408 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:22,080 day to get on with it. And how many times a week do you 409 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,480 do that? So I was training most every 410 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,800 morning. Yeah, not not so much anymore. 411 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,960 I trained 3 mornings a week and I do Pilates once a week. 412 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,840 For your marriage to Max, you didn't have one wedding dress or 413 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,320 even 2, but you had an incredible 3. 414 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Oh yeah. Can you tell me about? 415 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,880 Them So the first wedding dress was Oh my gosh, I got married to 416 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,920 Max seven weeks after having Wolfie. 417 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:50,040 So that was a halfpenny dress and it was just a simple silk 418 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,440 dress with I had like a pretty card, not cardigan. 419 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Like a little shrug. Yes, it was. 420 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,720 Or Cape. Yeah, like a waven kind of 421 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,400 floral Cape. Anyway, so I was very, very, 422 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,840 very feeling. I wasn't feeling confident at 423 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,240 all. And I remember Kate was 424 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,800 brilliant. She was like, and I felt 425 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,600 beautiful in the dress and that was the first dress. 426 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,240 And actually it was a very laid back, you know. 427 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,320 Chelsea Westminster. No, Chelsea, Mr. Sorry, that's a 428 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,840 hospital. What's it called? 429 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,440 The Chelsea Registry Office. Yeah, where my parents got 430 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,400 married and Max's parents got married and then we went back to 431 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,280 our house and had a party in the garden and the second, So the, 432 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,480 the real, the, the real party is not the wedding. 433 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,760 It's actually, sadly, my mother can make my wedding in Corfu and 434 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,400 Max's father couldn't make a wedding coffee. 435 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,440 So we're really lucky we managed to get them both there at the 436 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,560 registry office. And was that sort of why you? 437 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,560 We did, yeah. I didn't think, yes. 438 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,440 Max's father wasn't very well and my mother has Ms. so she 439 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,280 wasn't able to kind of get out there. 440 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,360 So we did that for for us as well. 441 00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:56,520 It's quite it was a lovely day, really special day. 442 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Personal too. Yeah, it was really lovely. 443 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,800 And we've got brilliant like, yeah. 444 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,200 So we made a real lovely day of it. 445 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,400 And then the party with a three day party in Corfu, I was 446 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,160 wearing Liz Martinez. Yeah, and they were, and she was 447 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,760 brilliant. I went to so many different 448 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,400 showrooms, every sort, every dress under the sun. 449 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,000 And I really wanted something which was a little sheer, was 450 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,000 cool enough in the heat, and a little bit of glitz at the same 451 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,280 time. And I loved, especially loved my 452 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,600 first dress when I came off the boat, walked down the aisle at 453 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,960 the White House in coffee. And then my second dress was 454 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,120 fairly similar, but actually more party party by. 455 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,920 But I I thought that first dress, you walking off the boat 456 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,800 and just that little bit of Sheerness, it was absolutely 457 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,920 beautiful. Thank you very much, gorgeous. 458 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,760 There's a lot coming from you. Love that. 459 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,520 Do are your children now? I mean especially India. 460 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,280 Is she of an age where she's got opinions on your style? 461 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,480 Yeah, she'll say. Oh, mummy look really pretty. 462 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,560 Wow, Mummy look like Princess Elsa or yeah, she's the 463 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,840 ultimate. Yeah, she she only had the hand. 464 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,200 Oh, my goodness. I'm having such a nightmare with 465 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,840 her trying to get her into clothes that I like she would 466 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,800 wear. She's like me. 467 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,400 She was. She's got an issue with having 468 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,840 anything tied around her waist. She's got a few sensory issues 469 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,400 like scratchy socks with the tight things around her waist. 470 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,240 That's why this was very good timing with this whole marks 471 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,040 Spencer's rage. But yeah, she she's going 472 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,080 through that 7 going on 17 stage. 473 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,160 How should you go about choosing your clothes for the different 474 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:32,080 events or meetings that you're attending? 475 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,080 Is that all with your stylist flick? 476 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:40,480 'S a really big help in that, but I kind of have an idea a lot 477 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,320 more now because of her. So I don't always rely on her as 478 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,520 much. Now it's kind of getting, I'm 479 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,200 getting better. That's it. 480 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,600 How would you describe your style DNA in three words? 481 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:57,040 Cozy, practical and sometimes a little chic. 482 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,920 I don't know. Yeah. 483 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,280 Fundamentally, who do you think you dress for? 484 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Myself. What is the sexiest look you 485 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,160 wear? He likes me in tight trousers, 486 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,960 which I obviously it's not in fashion anymore. 487 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,680 So he's really pissed off about that sex. 488 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:24,080 I think just messy volumous hair and a kind of off the shoulder 489 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,720 bardo top or something or like a kind of or like a tight fit. 490 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,080 Like I don't know how to say it like a really like a cool dress, 491 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,040 like a bottom, like a, like a mermaid bottom. 492 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,240 I don't know how you say I'm talking to you make me very 493 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,000 nervous about how to how to how to say things like fashionables 494 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,120 ways. But something something like 495 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:47,440 kind of, yeah. I like the kind of seventies 80s 496 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,040 look. I think it suits my round face 497 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,720 shape and those kind of like more curvy looks. 498 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,280 OK, got it. Don't know, got it. 499 00:24:54,360 --> 00:25:01,240 Face if you don't know. What is stay at home, cocooned, 500 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,000 chill out, Binky wearing? I've got some American venture 501 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,840 to have done, some really cool K world track suits and different 502 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,840 colours, different style bottoms and I'm pretty much in those a 503 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,360 lot. Or the my Valley kind of 504 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:16,200 joggers. Or like all the ones. 505 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,960 Now I know you love your beauty. Is beauty? 506 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,840 Is your beauty routine part of sort of yourself care? 507 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,600 Yes, although I don't actually do a huge amount of self-care in 508 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,040 that respect. I I don't ever get you know, I 509 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,520 do. I do actually have profilo. 510 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,640 I've done that twice now and I didn't love it. 511 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,520 The second time I thought my face went went even rounder than 512 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,240 it actually already is, which I didn't want. 513 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,320 But I don't tend to get facials an awful lot. 514 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:49,920 I like face gym. And why do you like that? 515 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,320 I just love the feel of it and also it makes my. 516 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,240 It's supposed to make your face look slimmer I guess. 517 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,800 Your muscle. Your muscles are activated. 518 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,880 In and Do you feel like it? Does it looks so good after? 519 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,360 Sadly doesn't last very long. It lasts a few hours. 520 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:03,960 I think it's good to do it before an event. 521 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,000 A few hours, right, Maybe a half a day, a day and. 522 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,720 So how often would you go and do that? 523 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,560 I think I'd probably, if I actually organised myself 524 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,800 better, I'd probably do it before an event like a big red 525 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,760 carpet event. Would you say that you've got a 526 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,040 style icon? No, I don't have a style icon. 527 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,760 Do you ever you ever attempted to sort of flick through 528 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,800 Pinterest or Instagram and sort of almost build a Binky mood 529 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,680 board for your stylist? Or does she do? 530 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,240 That I screenshot an awful lot. I'm like flick, I love this. 531 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,800 Can you, you know, can we can we try and find something to go 532 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,920 with that top or these shoes? So I am and I'm following 533 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,800 obviously brands and kind of influence like fashion 534 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,200 influences. So who, who influences you? 535 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,040 There's not. Are there any people in 536 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,080 particular that you sort of follow and think, oh, she's 537 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:05,880 really got it right? There's a few slightly, I can't 538 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,480 think specifically who, but there's a lot of like smaller 539 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,000 Instagram accounts. I can't. 540 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,960 There's one girl called Valeria, She's brilliant. 541 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,320 There's a couple I have to go through and have a look 542 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,880 actually. But yeah, there's a smaller, I 543 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,280 like the smaller kind of accounts. 544 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,640 But coming back to beauty, hair, makeup, manicures, hair, I know 545 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,200 you've been sort of quite vocal about the fact that you used to 546 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,720 have a lot of hair extensions. Oh my goodness. 547 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,960 So talk to me about that. Awful. 548 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,800 I mean it was a trend back in the day to have hair extensions 549 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,240 but not like mine. I had about 1000 things in my 550 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,160 hair. They were the bond, micro bonds. 551 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,280 And I remember my head, I had it cut so many times and it was not 552 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,200 growing and I'm very conscious of my round cheeks. 553 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,080 So the more hair in my head at the time was the better. 554 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,680 And I mean, it was just, it wasn't done. 555 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,160 It was done by someone very well, but it was too long and 556 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,160 too thick. And some of the pictures I could 557 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,440 cry looking at now. I mean, there's a few really 558 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,360 awful looks that I used to have with those and the time it took 559 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,480 to get them in, take them out. And my hair was just kind of 560 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,440 falling out with these bonds. Like it was horrific. 561 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,040 Thank goodness when after I just, I got to a point in my 562 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,480 life, I thought, I just don't even like them anymore. 563 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,760 And I, I got them out. They they, I loved them because 564 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,600 they made everything, you know, longer and thicker at the ends 565 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,600 and I could deal with more things with them, but it just, 566 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:40,240 it just didn't work for me and. What about beauty and nails 567 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,640 Take. A look at them today and pop a 568 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,880 couple of popped off before I came. 569 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,200 Typically I like to get my my my nails shellac done on my hands 570 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,880 and feet and. And is that because you're in 571 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,960 and out of water with kids? I couldn't wear normal Polish, 572 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,120 it would be a disaster. They chip straight away so yes, 573 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,600 it has to be shellac and beauty wise love my Charlotte Tilbury, 574 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,880 my Charlotte Tilbury Magic cream, and I mean I love all her 575 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,480 products really. It makes for a bit of Mac. 576 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,520 When did you feel that you really sort of nailed your your 577 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,720 makeup look? Because, you know, I haven't. 578 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,720 Got there yet? No, I don't. 579 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,360 I look awful. I didn't sleep, but I was like 580 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,600 WADA was up all night. But that's very kind of you to 581 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,680 say you've got. Youth on your. 582 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,880 Side Oh my goodness. Well, I mean, I definitely feel 583 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,280 like the bags are coming. I've never done the salmon sperm 584 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,160 thing, have you? Seriously, do we have to get 585 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,040 into that? It's a bit weird, isn't it? 586 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,120 Yeah. Yes, I've heard mixed reviews 587 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,520 about it. I don't want to put salmon sperm 588 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,320 in my eyes. Yeah, the whole thing, The whole 589 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,840 thing in my eyes. I mean, what about? 590 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,000 What about other tweetments? I heard a bit of Botox that Max 591 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,920 can't watch this. I think it's all natural. 592 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,640 I like Max. It's like you don't need to do 593 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,440 it. You don't need to don't like 594 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,800 Max. You met me with it, so sorry. 595 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,040 I'm not like I'm having. I've never frowned in my life. 596 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,040 I mean, I don't like it when it's just been done. 597 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,560 I have to say I don't like it. It feels well, I feel like I get 598 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,880 like a panic attack if I can't lift my eyebrows. 599 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,880 So the more it wears off, the better I find it. 600 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,880 It's too if it's too, I like some movement. 601 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,440 You've got to find a good one there. 602 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,840 A good a good doctor. Yeah, I don't know who was it? 603 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,400 It was Catherine Ryan saying babies need to see your your. 604 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,120 Face move. And I loved that, actually. 605 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,080 Such a good idea, such a good thing to. 606 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,800 Say, coming back to your wardrobe, is it beautifully 607 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,560 organized? And it's. 608 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,520 Kind of coordinated. Oh my goodness. 609 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,360 Not me, obviously. Inflicted it all. 610 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,560 Can't take that. I can't own that, I'm afraid. 611 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,840 No, she's, I mean, honestly, she's just been amazing. 612 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,440 She does. She sounds. 613 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,920 Like, she's brilliant. She's become a real old friend. 614 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,840 Yeah, she's a gift. She's become a really close 615 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,680 friend now as well. What would you say was your 616 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,760 worst fashion moment? There's been plenty, there's 617 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,600 been loads in fact. But I think probably my worst 618 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,680 was typically when we won a bloody BAFTA. 619 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,320 No, it was. It wasn't the best. 620 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,960 What were you wearing? Something hideous and pink. 621 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,040 It's like a it was, it wasn't like honestly, when magazine, 622 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,120 when I get interviewed and I always get asked that question 623 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,640 and I said, I'm not telling you because I know what you're going 624 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,600 to do. You're going to go and find a 625 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,120 picture and post it in the magazine or whatever it is. 626 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,760 But it yes, it's it was at the Baftas I think was one of my 627 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,440 worst, but it has been quite a few. 628 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,480 And that Baftas dress, had you chosen that you're. 629 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,400 It was a it was an all in one pantsuit and I think I'd found 630 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,240 it very last minute. Like most things, I'd found it 631 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,320 very last minute and it fit. On a more positive note, let's 632 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,720 talk about travel. Do you have a particular travel 633 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,880 look? I wished I was. 634 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,360 My mother always used to dress up for the airport and I think 635 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,000 it's such a love. I I love that. 636 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,520 But that was probably in an era when if you were dressed well, 637 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,880 you got upgraded if you're flying long haul. 638 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,160 No, Yeah, really. Absolutely. 639 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,720 Cheeky minx. She knew what she. 640 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,240 Was doing. She knew what she was. 641 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,520 Doing No, I'm just comfy. Yeah, yeah, always comfy. 642 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,120 Good Packer, Bad Packer. Awful Packer. 643 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,720 I'm the Packer that will sit on the bag while and Max is like 644 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,240 watching me wanting to cry because he is very organized. 645 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,240 He travels a lot. So he's got it down to a tee. 646 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,880 He rolls things up. He's got and so he actually does 647 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,760 my bag quite a lot. He packs for me. 648 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,600 I just Chuck everything on the bed and he's just, I mean, 649 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,040 honestly hilarious. So you're not a planner, no. 650 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,880 And if you're going for longer than overnight, how many bags do 651 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,040 you honestly take? I'm really good. 652 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,720 Just one. Just one big one. 653 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,840 Unless you have the pressure of influencer shooting. 654 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:53,080 Yes, yes well flicks may try to get me to bring 2 bags before 655 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,880 and I've just said Max wait allow it so. 656 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,360 On the note of influencer shooting, are you now at a stage 657 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,240 where if you get approached by a brand that you don't like their 658 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,520 their clothes, you won't do? It 100%, but that's what they 659 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,240 that's me with every brand I work with because it's just so 660 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,240 see through. If you don't like the brand or 661 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,240 whatever, there's no your followers are going to know. 662 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,560 Immediately, yeah. Which brand would you say is 663 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,560 your guilty secret and why? Is it? 664 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:28,160 Well I've got this Ugg slip on shoes which I live in. 665 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,600 They're not the most glamorous but they are bloody comfy and I 666 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,400 wear them every day. Sound like your slippers? 667 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,880 They've got that little cool like trim around, you know what 668 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,360 I'm talking about. They've got that little 669 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,840 platform. They're they're they're, they're 670 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,360 not the most fashionable, but I do love them. 671 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,440 What, if anything, do you feel you have an excessive amount of 672 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,880 in your wardrobe gym? Clothes. 673 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:58,080 And guilty secret What is the most expensive item of clothing 674 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,320 or accessory that you've ever bought? 675 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,400 You don't have to tell me the price. 676 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,800 Tag I think it'll it'll be my Chanel handbag for sure. 677 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,320 Handbag or bags? Well, there's one in particular 678 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,840 that is quite expensive, but they're all quite expensive. 679 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,159 And the particular was quite expensive, Yeah. 680 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:15,520 And the shoes are quite expensive, yes. 681 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,000 But I think in the Chanel, the Chanel classic Chanel handbag 682 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,280 was my most expensive. And if I were to say to you bags 683 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,600 or shoes? Bags. 684 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,840 Oh, it used to be bags. Maybe it's more shoe. 685 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,639 Maybe I should say shoes. I've got to go. 686 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,960 So honestly, how many pairs of shoes do you own? 687 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,360 Oh. My goodness, not that many. 688 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,760 I didn't know how many. How many is a lot. 689 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,560 I know people have got more than me, but 15 pairs? 690 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,440 Oh, there's nothing. Now I know I'm really good. 691 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,600 I'm trying really hard. Amazing. 692 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,040 I mean, on that note, let's talk about your approach to 693 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,040 sustainable fashion. Yes, you know, what do you do 694 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,120 with your clothes when you've had enough of them? 695 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,639 I either put a couple on vintage but mainly charity shop. 696 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,240 Are you putting your Alaya shoes on vintage? 697 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,520 These are going to be worn until they're breaking. 698 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,160 Spoiler alert, exactly. Binky's a liar. 699 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,520 Yeah, yeah, these are staying on. 700 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,560 I'm not getting rid of these. No, these will have to kind of 701 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,000 fall off my feet before I. And if it's a more designer 702 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,040 piece, would you ever sell a Chanel bag for example? 703 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,960 I think I'd like to pass them down to India. 704 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,920 Lovely, yeah. Do you buy vintage? 705 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,680 I've only ever bought 1 vintage item and it's it was this 706 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:32,640 beautiful Valentino sheepskin coat they found in a charity 707 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,880 shop. Oh my yeah it's amazing. 708 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,640 Where was the in West Sussex? Wow. 709 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,520 Yeah, I know as I was blown away. 710 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,440 How much did you pay for it? Gosh, I can't remember. 711 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,080 I think a couple of 100 lbs. Wow, it's beautiful. 712 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,320 It's very heavy and oversized. Yeah, yeah. 713 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,160 Oh what a fine and and your stylist doesn't put you in 714 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,160 vintage? She actually doesn't, but I 715 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,080 think I I'd like to find some really lovely vintage jewelry 716 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,800 and bags. Although I do like to get the 717 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,920 boxes they come in. No, but jewelry. 718 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,480 I'd love to find some more vintage jewelry. 719 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,680 I'm always scared of wearing rings though. 720 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,520 Do you know what I mean? I feel like wearing vintage 721 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,400 rings. I'm scared that I once was told 722 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,520 that it's bad luck to put someone else's ring on and it's 723 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,800 always scared me because of the story they've held or the things 724 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,560 that's gone through. I don't know, maybe that's an 725 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,640 old wives tale. What would you say is the oldest 726 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,280 piece in your wardrobe? Probably my Chanel handbag, my 727 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,520 first ever one. And how old were you when you 728 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,200 bought that? I was filming made in Chelsea, 729 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,240 South of France and I was with my mom when I bought it, so 730 00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:41,920 that's probably 2015. And was that sort of made in 731 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,040 Chelsea spoils? That was a treat to sell. 732 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:47,720 It was my first real hamburger I ever bought and it was really 733 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:50,520 exciting and it was perfect setting. 734 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,920 I was in Cannes in the Chanel store with my mom who tried not 735 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,080 to visit me, and she's like coming. 736 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,040 And I scared it. And I just being paid. 737 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,400 And I was like, OK. And I think that's yeah, I think 738 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,320 that's probably my my pride. It's not the most beautiful one, 739 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,200 but it was my first. So let's spin on to some quick 740 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,640 fires. OK, quick questions. 741 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,840 OK, what fashion advice would you give your 20 year old self? 742 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,920 Just for yourself. Fashion trend or era you'd most 743 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,760 like to see make a comeback? Skinny Jean in some ways. 744 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,800 You'd like to make well. So for Max, yes, well, it's 745 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,280 it's. Back on some catwalks. 746 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,800 Is it? Which fashionable beauty trend 747 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,600 would you like to consign to Room 101? 748 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,120 The Crocs. Last impulse by the. 749 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,880 Bottega bag in the airport. News on tattoos. 750 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,160 I've got 1 and it's horrific so I would probably suggest India 751 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,480 doesn't get a tattoo. What is it? 752 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,480 I need to get it removed. It could be worse. 753 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,880 Look at my awful fake tag I'm having. 754 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,000 OK, anyway, the story behind it is I really wanted a tattoo and 755 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000 my brother and my mom said, OK, come on then. 756 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,800 And we went to Fulham Rd. tattoo shop and they were like, we had 757 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,320 a couple, we'd have a really fun lunch as a family. 758 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,520 And they were like going through these screens trying to find the 759 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,920 tattoo. I'd rather them like that one, 760 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,560 that one. And so I got it with them. 761 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,720 And even though it's horrific, it's got a nice story behind. 762 00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:30,960 It How old were you when you had that? 763 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,720 I was working at Candy and Candy, so I was 1819. 764 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,880 High end or High Street? High Street. 765 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,960 Or bear. Bear. 766 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,320 Summer or winter? Winter. 767 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,280 Minimalism or maximalism? Minimalism. 768 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,440 Oh, I can't believe I just said that. 769 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,840 All right. Couture or charity shop? 770 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,920 It's, I'd like to say charity shop, but I actually. 771 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,160 Couture I think so. Crocs, cute or puke? 772 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,680 I think you've answered that. Puke sneakers or stilettos. 773 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,640 Sneakers. I know, I know. 774 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,720 But if I'm being honest, I'm always I'm, I mean, I, I, I like 775 00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:14,160 getting dressed up. Boyfriends or wide legs as in 776 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,080 jeans? Oh. 777 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:20,320 What's a boyfriend? Let's move right on. 778 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,560 Body con or boho? Boho every time. 779 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:28,240 Trilby or Tracy? Again, you've lost me. 780 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,200 Philip Tracy. OK, we'll move on. 781 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:38,360 Sports Lux or rock chick? Sports lux Red carpet or Relax 782 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,720 Relax. Trendle. 783 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:42,880 Style, style, colour or monochrome. 784 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,720 Colour. Experimental or uniform? 785 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,120 Experimental. Cashmere or cotton cashmere? 786 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,040 Hoarder or editor? Editor. 787 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,400 Now, she whispers. Now. 788 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,840 Shapewear or sexy lingerie? Oh, I need to get more into the 789 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,760 sexy laundry thing. Not laundry. 790 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,920 Oh, my God. Lingerie. 791 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,240 This goes to show, I mean, honestly, yeah, I I need to do 792 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:10,160 this. Do you not? 793 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,520 I just find if I try to look sexy at night, I think if I 794 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,640 walked out and something gorgeous, I think I burst out 795 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,760 laughing and so did Matt. I just, I just don't think I 796 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,800 could keep a straight face wearing it. 797 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,800 Tights or stockings? Tights. 798 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,760 Bikini or One Piece 0? Hmm interesting. 799 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,600 I think it's like 5050 on that one. 800 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,520 Depends how I'm feeling. Finally, traditional last 801 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,720 question. At the end of the day, what do 802 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:39,720 you or don't you wear in bed? I don't wear anything my 803 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:43,840 birthday suit, which I've got to stop doing because on the show 804 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,200 that if you watch the second episode of Be on Chelsea, we're 805 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,400 talking about, you know what, if there was a fire or something 806 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,160 horrific in the middle of the night, you know, I would have to 807 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,600 run out completely naked. And so I've thought about that 808 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,840 ever since, and I'm now wearing one of Max's oversized shirts, 809 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,200 which is not sexy. What? 810 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,720 Just in case, the house. Just in case something happens 811 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,400 and I have to run out naked. I'd be my neighbours would be 812 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,600 they're they're slightly older. I think I think you're you're 813 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,960 mates on Beyond Chelsea are catastrophizing slightly. 814 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,000 I know it's busy. Strip the shirt. 815 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 816 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,400 Thank you. Thank you for sharing this 817 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,160 afternoon with me on this grey, miserable day. 818 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,000 That's. Sorry can I just interrupt This 819 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,240 is the breakup bridge of Made in Chelsea. 820 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,240 How many times were you on that breakup bridge? 821 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:32,720 A couple of times, but this is a the Albert Bridge is iconic in 822 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,000 made in Chelsea for people breaking up so you just. 823 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,200 As I'm traumatizing you by making you. 824 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,080 Sit in front of it. Thank you so much for having. 825 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,360 Me. Oh, what fun. 826 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,880 Thank you. Brilliant.