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Lovely to have you here. 30 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:50,240 I want to start by asking you probably a question you've been 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,120 asked many, many times. What inspired you to start 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:02:01,080 Sherlock's? I was always someone that people 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,440 used to say where did you get this? 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:11,440 And I would say H&M or I found it in XY or Z and I suppose I 35 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:16,760 always had a bit of an eye. I spent a lot of time as a child 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,840 in Hong Kong and followed my stepmother around markets and 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,520 she always had an eye. And we'd rummage and rummage and 38 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,080 rummage and rummage and, and yes, I think I always had an 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,520 eye. I've always been someone who's 40 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,840 wanted to share recommendations with other people. 41 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,920 I toyed with personal styling, realized it wasn't for me, but 42 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:39,640 thought I wanted to share where to buy a good T-shirt, etcetera, 43 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:43,560 etcetera. And I'd try and write a book age 44 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,240 25, realize as I was researching content for the book that 45 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:54,240 perhaps it should be online. And that was in 2005. 46 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,600 At which point you were working for Coty. 47 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,240 I worked for Coty. I was, I was an intern. 48 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,200 I was always really hungry to work. 49 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,720 I was really, yeah, I didn't love being a student. 50 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,760 And yeah, I wanted to get going and I really wanted to start my 51 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,400 career. And, you know, Working Girl is 52 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,080 one of my favorite movies. You know, I, I wanted to, I 53 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,320 wanted to rolodex in a filing cabinet and that's what I dreamt 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,600 of as a child. And so, yeah, to me, being a 55 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,840 student was a bit of, a bit of a pain and I wanted to get on with 56 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,400 it. So I interned at Coty throughout 57 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,800 my time at Edinburgh University. I was the first intern they ever 58 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,680 had in London. I worked for them in Paris on my 59 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,240 year abroad. And when I left Edinburgh, I 60 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,200 went to work with, went to work for them in marketing for a 61 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:48,040 year, left there and actually went to Savils, had a property 62 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,040 marketing agency. And I went there for a really, 63 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,200 really brief stunt. Realized very quickly it wasn't 64 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,760 for me. And that was when I started 65 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,000 working on the plan. So I was very young. 66 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,680 I was 25 when I started working on it. 67 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,520 I'm 43, so it's been a long time that. 68 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,920 Is incredibly young and quite a vision. 69 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,680 I mean, the the fashion industry's changed a lot since 70 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,320 2005. Yeah. 71 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,240 I mean, what are the main changes in your view in the 72 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,040 digital world? I mean, the digital world didn't 73 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:24,440 exist when I started Sherlock. So we had Myspace, I think ASOS 74 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,240 were online. What were around Net were 75 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,000 online, just I think the White Company were online. 76 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,520 And and then there was this sort of long tail of independent 77 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,960 retailers, brands, I guess the kind of brands that you'd find 78 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,440 at Spirit of Christmas, which is actually what formed. 79 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,080 They're not on the High Street business model. 80 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,880 So there was a long tail of online retail. 81 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,760 Fashion was, you know, it was still the heyday of print. 82 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:54,880 And in all honesty, I, like so many girls, longed to work at 83 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,880 Conde Nast. I did a brief internship there. 84 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,840 I got offered a job as assistant to the publisher of Tatler. 85 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:05,400 I think it was Alia Forte. Was that her name? 86 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,160 And I saw her a few years ago, having not seen her since then. 87 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:11,680 And actually I decided I didn't want to do that. 88 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,480 But you know, I I've sort of read all the books, you know, 89 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,480 whether it's Tina Brown on a discourage or, you know, I've 90 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,480 read every fashion book docufilm seen it that there is. 91 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,280 And you know, I I have some huge regrets that I wasn't, you know, 92 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:32,960 10 years older and and could really be part of that print 93 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,360 heyday. But it was starting to change. 94 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,280 And yeah, I thought there was a there was a gap. 95 00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:43,480 There was an opportunity. It was not, it was not easy, I'm 96 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,480 not going to lie. I had no experience. 97 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,920 I was very much the outsider. I felt like a real impostor. 98 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,040 I I didn't really throw myself into the industry. 99 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,240 I just got my head down and worked really hard on the site 100 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,200 and the content and realized that that's how I would have to 101 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,200 prove myself. Yeah. 102 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,880 I mean, it struck me at the time as extraordinarily brave and 103 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,920 brilliant, but incredibly brave because it was early days for 104 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,960 net and ASOS and all of that lot. 105 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,000 And the, and as you were saying, the publishers, the big 106 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,520 publishers, the Conde Nast and Hearst had not embraced online 107 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,720 at that stage. Yes, it was beginning to bubble. 108 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,280 But I mean, that was a big old brave, brave move. 109 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,080 Do you think naive? I don't think it was brave, I 110 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,680 think. Do you? 111 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,360 Think there was something about that sort of 20 something 112 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,600 naivety that gave you the power to just do it? 113 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,600 Yeah, I think I, I think I, yeah, I've always been ambitious 114 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,840 there. My husband always says there's 115 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:48,560 more ways to skin a cat. And I wanted a career. 116 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:54,160 And yeah, I, I, I was really, I wanted to, to run something, to 117 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,920 be something to have a successful career, whatever that 118 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,320 meant. And I at Coty, I was sort of 119 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,400 really impatient to be promoted and progress the next level. 120 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,040 And at the time I was there, Coty acquired the Unilever 121 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,720 Prestige business and I went to RMD, Liz Garrett, she was 122 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,400 amazing. And, and she said, look, 123 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,720 Georgie, there's no promotions for six months. 124 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,720 We need this acquisition, this merger to happen. 125 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,120 And then we'll, you know, we'll work it out. 126 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,040 And it was at that point when I was like, right, well, I'm off 127 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,760 and I'm going to go to work somewhere else. 128 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,200 And, and no, God, we left on brilliant terms. 129 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,720 She was an amazing woman. But, you know, I think it was 130 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,720 just ambition, naivety and the fact that I saw there was a gap 131 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,760 in the market. And my husband, he was just my 132 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,400 husband at the time, thought it was a good idea. 133 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,480 And he he's, he's a sort of glass half full. 134 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,520 And it has been an extraordinary idea. 135 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,000 I mean, talking about ambition, what is your ambition for 136 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,800 Sherlock's from from here on in? Because every time I look, 137 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,000 there's another bolt on, there's a talent management, there's a, 138 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,920 you know, there's all of these different bolt ONS, which I 139 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,560 think is brilliant. Well, that's very kind. 140 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Yeah, Blush Talent Management is what it says on the tin. 141 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,760 Locks and Co we also have, which is a creative agency. 142 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,200 So, you know, from 17 years of running Shellacs, I've got a 143 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:21,680 pretty good idea of of, you know, what consumers engage with 144 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,760 when it comes to creative and storytelling and how to be 145 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,600 aspirational but commercial. And I think that's part of why 146 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,120 we're still here and where we are is because we've always 147 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,240 realized that, you know, yes, you want to be aspirational, but 148 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,600 you've got to be commercial. You want to sell. 149 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,360 And so we sort of can take that all those learnings and having 150 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:47,800 grown up in digital and apply those to retail brands, fashion 151 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,440 brand, beauty brands, whoever it might be. 152 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,080 So that's Lux and Co. We recently launched in the 153 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,080 Middle East a year ago, nearly just coming up to a year 154 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,880 actually. So that's a new journey. 155 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:04,280 But in answer your question, I think my biggest hope is that 156 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,120 Sherlock's continues to live and grow and live beyond me, 157 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:14,320 whatever that means, and evolve and, and keep, keep innovating 158 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,120 and, you know, stay at the forefront of digital and that 159 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,560 comes with huge pressure. But yeah, I, I hope we can, we 160 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:27,680 can be the the, the publisher that sets the standard of what 161 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,400 good and success looks like in the digital publishing world. 162 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,800 I don't quite know what that looks like in sort of 10 years 163 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,200 time, but that's the hope. The one thing that I'm curious 164 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,800 about, having done my research not only on you but on Sheer 165 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:47,880 Lux, is I felt, if I can be honest, that there was a little 166 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,920 bit of a lack. Of. 167 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:57,320 My age group being represented on it and I, I just think 168 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,200 there's quite a lot of ageism in the world. 169 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:08,200 And I know, I know that a lot of publishers say it's just not 170 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,880 aspirational or the rest of it, but it is a highly lucrative 171 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,960 part of the market. Absolutely. 172 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,520 And I just, I'm curious about your thoughts on that. 173 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,800 Well, you came on our Gold Show about that, so. 174 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,360 But that's the gold show. When I look at your talent 175 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,520 management, there's no one of my Generation I. 176 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,720 Just I will take that on board. I'm just curious if that's 177 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,600 something on your radar because you, you do just hear again and 178 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,360 again, kids have flown the nest. People have changing their 179 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,280 careers or retiring or whatever they're doing, and they've just 180 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,720 got more to spend and more time to spend like it. 181 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,280 I can agree with that more. We're actually developing a 182 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,160 product at the moment. This. 183 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,720 We were throwing strap lines around yesterday and still got 184 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,760 it came up and quite a few other cheesy, cheesy slogans. 185 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:10,400 But look, I couldn't agree more. And I'm 43, my children are 13 186 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,400 down. And I guess I'm getting to an 187 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,240 age where, yeah, I realized that I'm sort of just coming into my 188 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,280 own. And I'm sure you feel the same. 189 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,880 I I mean at my age I feel like I am just coming into my own and 190 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,280 it's such a good feeling. Yeah. 191 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,200 And I think it's a brilliant time for women. 192 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,520 And, you know, I've spent the last however many years trying 193 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,400 to work, you know, be there for my children. 194 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,520 And I'm sort of just coming up for air a little bit. 195 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,240 I mean don't get me wrong, they still massively. 196 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,320 She who is starting has started a new business in the Middle 197 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,240 East. But I sort of, I sort of mean 198 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,760 and I suppose I've never just been a mother and, and I think 199 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,440 people who are full time mothers are phenomenal. 200 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,760 I have couldn't have more respect for them. 201 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,480 I I couldn't do it. It's the hardest job in the 202 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,360 world. But, you know, I think at the 203 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:08,200 age I am and I'm surely degree and, and I know who I am, I'm 204 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,080 more competent than ever in that. 205 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:15,480 I know my, you know, some of the things I thought were my sort of 206 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,320 worst characteristics and maybe my best. 207 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,840 And I've spent years sort of trying to hide those 208 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,600 characteristics. Like what like, you know, being 209 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:30,680 bossy or having a loud voice or moving quickly or, you know, I'm 210 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:32,200 someone who moves quickly and breaks things. 211 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,920 You know, my husband is very precise. 212 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,520 He restacks the dishwasher. He, you know, he parks 213 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,880 perfectly. He did. 214 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,000 He actually crashed into the gate the other day. 215 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,720 Was very happy. He wake me up and said, Oh my 216 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,600 God, I've had a shocker and he's tripping into the gate. 217 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,640 I was like just. Because it's usually you 218 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,280 crashing into the gate. Always me, always me. 219 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,520 And he was going to kill me for saying that, but yeah, I am a 220 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,320 move quickly and break things minimum viable product test 221 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,040 evolve and. And you think that's been your 222 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,000 superpower? And I think, yeah, I, I do. 223 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,680 But for a long time, you know, I've made mistakes. 224 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:13,960 But for a long time I've, yeah, I sort of felt a bit of shame 225 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,080 for them or, or that it wasn't a good, they weren't good 226 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,960 characteristics. So I think I know who I am, you 227 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,960 know, warts and all. Life is short. 228 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,920 You know, dinosaurs lived 200 million years ago. 229 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,800 Any girlfriends of mine listen to this is going to laugh. 230 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,120 You know, the human species, it's, it's, it's short. 231 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,320 Make the most of it. Enjoy it. 232 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,920 Don't, don't, you know, torture yourself too much, I think. 233 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,840 And, and life is what you make it. 234 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,720 And, and I think it's amazing to be surrounded by so many 235 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,600 brilliant women. And the world has changed a lot 236 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,160 in that respect, too. I hear you. 237 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,320 We are actually focusing on doing more for a sort of more 238 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,480 mature women. I suppose in some research 239 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,440 groups we've done in the past, women have said, don't think 240 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,960 that because I'm in my late 50s, I can't be inspired by somebody 241 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,280 in their 30s. You know, it's a sort of state 242 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,600 of mind. And we often say that gold is 243 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,360 the state of mind. And I've got girlfriends, you 244 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,520 know, who love gold, who are in their 40s. 245 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,880 And we've got readers who are in their 60s who, like, don't put 246 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,560 me in that bracket. So I really do believe that it's 247 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,160 a bit more of a state of mind than an age. 248 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,440 I couldn't agree with you more because in my mind I'm somewhere 249 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:36,280 in my late 30s maybe, you know, I intend to spend the rest of my 250 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:41,960 life in that sort of age group. But no, it's, it's a curious 251 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:42,840 one. And you know. 252 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,240 It's a very fair point. Is it? 253 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,280 It's a really interesting time for women. 254 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,160 It's a great time for women. It. 255 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Is and you know, our mothers, we're not in the same era that 256 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,560 we're in now. And so it we're breaking new 257 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,040 ground in every which way, in our health and our well-being, 258 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,680 how we want to dress and how we want to live our lives and. 259 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,360 And our value in society, our value against men, you know 260 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:11,920 that's. What we bring that they. 261 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,320 Don't. Yeah, I think it's it's. 262 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,240 It's fascinating. Now we're here to talk about 263 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,080 style today. So how did you decide what you 264 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,320 were going to put on this morning? 265 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Oh well, we've actually got our Sherlocks away day today, so 266 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,320 we're heading to Oakley. Court. 267 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:32,280 And what does that mean? That means it's all, it's a sort 268 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,480 of delayed, well, it was supposed to be a sort of delayed 269 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,360 summer event. It's bloody freezing outside. 270 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:42,600 It had that like cold wind. But we are off for a bit of 271 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,360 strategy, bit of brainstorming, a light sports day, it says on 272 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,200 the invitation. A light sports day, Yeah. 273 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,560 So putting your sneakers on and. Well, I've I've got and answer 274 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,720 to your question. I've got some shiny leggings on 275 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,280 which I actually opened yesterday. 276 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,720 They're from I love a shiny legging and I bought. 277 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,960 Them like yours, I am not surprised. 278 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,400 Well, I bought them for years from the same place and they've 279 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,080 stopped doing them anyway. Someone in Dubai last week was 280 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,280 wearing them and I said, where are those from? 281 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,360 And she said Caledonia, yeah. Well, that's a that's more of a 282 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,480 dance brand, isn't it? Oh, is it? 283 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Yes. Oh, that makes sense. 284 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,760 Yeah, I also bought a whole shiny one piece. 285 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,400 Yeah, it's really cool. So I'm not wearing that today, 286 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,840 but I'm wearing shiny leggings. I'm wearing a Jill Sander 287 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,440 T-shirt, which is like the best shaped T-shirt. 288 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Yeah, some Chanel ballet flats. I can't go wrong. 289 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,680 And what else? Oh, we were talking about my 290 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,080 totem blazer. Beautiful. 291 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,440 Which I've just worn and worn and worn and worn. 292 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,120 But I'm, I'm sort of, I have a bit of a uniform. 293 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,840 I'm quite a monochrome dresser. Lots of tailoring. 294 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,920 Yeah. Were you very aware of your 295 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,800 mother's style? Not really. 296 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,200 And I only see that because my mother, she's not really into 297 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,480 fashion. She's in her 70s and she looks 298 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,000 better and better, she really does. 299 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,480 Are you involved in her styling at all? 300 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,680 No, not at all. I mean, she's not, as I said, 301 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,079 she's not hugely into. She always looks really nice. 302 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,040 I'd say she's really put together. 303 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:21,200 She has her and she has her bath in the evening. 304 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,119 She wears a pink cardigan most days. 305 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,240 Her pearls her, you know, but she's very, I mean, I've got it 306 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,600 from her. I did it just before we went on 307 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,280 here. Quick hair brush, lipstick, You 308 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,760 know, as a child, whenever we went somewhere, someone's house 309 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,280 for lunch or to stay for the weekends, I mean, as we were 310 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,920 approaching, out would come her comb and her lipstick and it was 311 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,160 lit like 30 seconds before we got that outcomes. 312 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,120 The comb and the lipstick. I'm definitely the same. 313 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,240 So I think, yeah, she's very, she's very elegant, my mother. 314 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,520 And yeah, well put together and she makes a real, she makes a 315 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,120 real effort. But do you remember that moment 316 00:17:57,120 --> 00:18:00,640 when you first realized the power of clothes? 317 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,800 You ever begin to stay with my godfather and his wife and my 318 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,880 stepmother quite concerned that I'd changed three times. 319 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,640 I mean, I think I'd want to heard that. 320 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,360 Did you hear that? Yeah. 321 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,440 And. And so, you know, I've always 322 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,280 been someone that's made an effort and realized even at 323 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,880 university. But was there a light bulb 324 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,240 moment even when you were a small child that you put 325 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,280 something on and you went, oh, this feels great. 326 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,480 I feel taller and more grown up and. 327 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,480 I mean, I, I remember going to my aunt's and uncle's house for 328 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,080 lunch in Berkshire, near Newbury. 329 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,960 So it was, we were, you know, it was country. 330 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:49,080 And I rocked up in a pair of sort of cloggy sort of heels, a 331 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,960 sort of mule heel. And I got out of the car and my 332 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,160 uncle just laughed at me. Georgie, what do you think you 333 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,520 don't like? You know, I was always wanting 334 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,760 to get dressed up, you know, use the good bath salts get us. 335 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,360 And I think that goes way back. I mean, I remember a picture of 336 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:08,000 me on the beach in Cornwall when I was 2 and I'm wearing strings 337 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,760 and strings of pearls. You know, I was always rummaging 338 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,160 through my mother's Ruby box. I was always getting dressed up. 339 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,760 My godmother used to call me Little Miss London when I came 340 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,400 to stay because I'd bring lots of outfits and, you know, party 341 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,400 skirts and things like that. So I think, I think always. 342 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,360 Now I believe you were a Deb. I was. 343 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,960 I said that out loud the other day, I thought. 344 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:34,000 Tell us about that time. Was that an extraordinarily it's 345 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,680 a busy time of dressing up and parties and was it very 346 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,960 competitive in terms of dressing up? 347 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,040 No, it wasn't competitive actually, and I think it's 348 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,080 quite, it was a very old school thing. 349 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,600 Very old school to have been that recent, quite frankly, 350 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,600 wasn't it? Yeah, very old school and I 351 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:03,240 think it wasn't a. It wasn't sort of cool and 352 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,920 modern and fashion. So I would say probably it 353 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,360 wasn't very competitive and maybe right, maybe I would 354 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:13,760 things are a bit more modern than some maybe. 355 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,680 But you know, it was the end of the 90s, nineteen 99. 356 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,920 So you came out at the East India club? 357 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,080 Yeah, yeah. In Asari. 358 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,360 In Asari, that was brave and original. 359 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,360 Yeah, I suppose it was. I suppose it was. 360 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:33,240 I didn't know what people thought, but it was, it was 361 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,600 really fun. Look, it was really fun. 362 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,520 My mother did it. It it's not around anymore much, 363 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,600 I didn't think. And and and it, it was a great 364 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,200 thing to do. It was lots of parties. 365 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,520 At the time, I was working in Harvey Nichols, so a lot of 366 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,840 people sort of in that set worked in Vaughan and Mason or 367 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,520 they worked for the, what was it called? 368 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,800 GTC. Yeah. 369 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,000 General trading company. TTC, it's Lane Square and I 370 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,880 instead went to Harvey Nichols to work in contemporary because 371 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,720 I wanted to see something, yeah, a bit more exposed to fashion. 372 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,160 And I used to finish work and go down. 373 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,280 I mean, they've changed. The staff entrance is very 374 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,520 different. I've, we've filmed in there 375 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,960 quite a lot, so I've been through it. 376 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,920 My God, the change rooms were pretty ranked back then. 377 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,160 And I would go down instead of stand on a towel and try and 378 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,760 have a shower in this revolting shower and then put on this 379 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,400 really small outfit and totter across to Basel Street where 380 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,280 there used to be quite a lot of parties. 381 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,640 So I sort of, it was a bit of a mad time, but it was great fun. 382 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,960 Did you meet your husband when you were Deb? 383 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,120 No, I met him really soon after. So after that I went to Maribel 384 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:44,760 to do a ski season and I worked in Dick's Tea Bar, which was a 385 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,720 nightclub. Yeah. 386 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,760 And he was a chalet boy and he appeared at my bar one night. 387 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,720 Love it. He did about 60 nights in a row 388 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,960 I think. Oh wow, love. 389 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,880 At first sight, I don't know. We were friends first. 390 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,360 Yeah, yeah. What did you wear for your 391 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:07,600 wedding? I wore, I didn't wear Amanda 392 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,640 Wakeley. I suppose that's what I wish I'd 393 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,360 wore. Oh, I was talking to Charlotte 394 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:14,480 Collins, our editor in chief, who did wear Amanda Wakeley to 395 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,440 her wedding. I I love hearing stories of 396 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,400 people. It's just when they say, but I'm 397 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,640 not married any more to that man, it's like. 398 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,080 Oh well, I definitely AM. So what did you wear? 399 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,160 I you're you were a bit pricey for me. 400 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,840 I seem to remember. Sorry. 401 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:37,840 Don't be, don't be. I wore a very I loved lace. 402 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,520 Actually I still do. I love Shanti lace and yeah, I 403 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,480 still do. It's gorgeous. 404 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,920 So I wore it was very Lacy, very figure hugging. 405 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,760 I put it on the other day with a. 406 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,880 Put it on and wore it the. Other. 407 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,520 Yeah, Well, I wore it. When Was it William and Kate? 408 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,280 No, it was Megan and Harry went to a party and all the girls 409 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:04,920 were their wedding dresses. And then I tried it on. 410 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,840 I actually cleared out my bedroom my mother's house the 411 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,920 other day and tried it on. Lovely. 412 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,600 And tell me, being the sort of director of photography that you 413 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,200 are, were you very bossy on your wedding photos and. 414 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,640 No, not at all. I wanted them over really 415 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,480 quickly. I can't. 416 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,520 They're weddings where there's a huge song and dance about the 417 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,920 photo. You know, those group photos and 418 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,960 the whole wedding. No thanks. 419 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,120 And we actually had this amazing wedding photographer called 420 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:37,240 Catherine Mooberry, who was really, really well known and 421 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,920 she was quite expensive, but we went for it because we didn't 422 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,520 have a video, which I really regret. 423 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,960 But I got married almost 18 years ago and it wasn't the norm 424 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,000 to have a videographer at a wedding then. 425 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,840 It really is now. Back then it felt very 426 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,640 intrusive. Yeah, my mother was like, 427 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,840 absolutely not. Absolutely. 428 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,680 Not and and so you had this lovely wedding. 429 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,080 So we so we had Catherine and she'd done it for years. 430 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,280 And she gave you your photos in a What are they? 431 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,600 Called a beautiful portfolio. Lenly my God, my brain. 432 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,480 Anyway, in one of those lovely, you know, Navy blue albums with 433 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,040 the black corners. And so we had her and she was 434 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,760 very clever because she got everyone together. 435 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,160 And when I say everyone, I don't mean everybody at the wedding. 436 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,920 I mean, you know, bridesmaids in nose, blah, blah, blah. 437 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,960 And then she peeled them off. So she started with the group 438 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:37,680 picture and it was so fast. And she'd say, right, parents 439 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,960 drop off, bridesmaids drop off. So and then you just ended up 440 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,120 with a bride and groom at the end. 441 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,840 So it was super quick. It started raining in the 442 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,640 middle. So we ran inside and yeah, it 443 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,280 was done and dusted while I was on my honeymoon. 444 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,880 She, my mother didn't tell me until we got back. 445 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,960 She went to my mother and said, I can't bear it. 446 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,160 You know, 30 years of my career or whatever it is. 447 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,200 This has never happened before. And she'd had something wrong 448 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:11,080 with her lens and all our formal photos were no, we didn't have 449 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,160 any non existence. Yeah. 450 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,520 So she was, she actually retired afterwards. 451 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,480 She said, I'm so traumatized by this. 452 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,440 And we were really, really nice about it. 453 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,120 And she's like, can we reshoot? I was like, you can't reshoot 454 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:25,880 your wedding day. And my brother-in-law lived in 455 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,720 America and blah, blah, blah. So luckily the lady that made 456 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,360 the bridesmaids dresses was in the drawing room and happened to 457 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,560 take a couple. So we have a couple from her. 458 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,120 And and did she take lots of reportage photography? 459 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,280 We had lots getting to the church. 460 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,880 We had lots in the marquee, but we don't have the big. 461 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,440 My husband and I had some nice ones of us walking out of 462 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,080 church. Like really nice. 463 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:53,000 Yeah. Which I love. 464 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,320 Lovely. That's enough. 465 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,600 It's enough. You have so much fashion in 466 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,400 front of you the whole time. Do you ever get what I call snow 467 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,320 blind to to fashion and product and and clothes? 468 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,120 Yeah. How do you withdraw yourself 469 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:13,520 from that and be the gorgeous Georgie that you are? 470 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,120 I probably shouldn't withdraw so much, but yeah, I'm I'm totally 471 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:20,680 snow blind. I haven't had that expression 472 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760 before, but I know exactly what you mean. 473 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,600 I I probably should and I sort of look at some of the team who 474 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,240 are, you know, in the latest this and look, you know, and you 475 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,600 know, by the way, that's part of their job to do that. 476 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,720 So before anyone says, you know, it's vacuous, it's whatever it's 477 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,600 it's part of their job. It's. 478 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,240 Part of their job to inspire. Exactly. 479 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:45,120 So yeah, I, I often think I need to put a bit more time into it 480 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,760 and all honesty to me, it's sort of work. 481 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,640 So yeah, it, it sort of becomes a bit like white noise. 482 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,120 And when I have to think right, I'm going to think about this 483 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,160 now and, and consciously do that. 484 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,560 And how do you consciously think about it? 485 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,560 Do you have a method for working out your next season's looks or 486 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,480 how you're evolving your looks? No, no, no. 487 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,480 And I, and I probably should. I'm spending quite a lot of time 488 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,960 in the Middle East now and people often when I go to the 489 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,280 Middle East, I'm filming, I'm on camera a lot, so I really have 490 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,040 to think about what I'm going to wear in advance. 491 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,920 So when I when I go, I'm everything is sort of planned. 492 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,080 And the amount of people who said, 'cause your styles really 493 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,560 changed since the Middle East and it hasn't. 494 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,920 I just have to focus on it and I have to prepare. 495 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,000 And actually you do see a difference in that. 496 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:38,680 Yes. And I was going to ask you 497 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,320 actually about being in the Middle East and have you 498 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,320 consciously being more demure in your looks because it's the 499 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,040 Middle East. Definitely in Saudi. 500 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,640 However, in Saudi it's still very misunderstood. 501 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,840 I'm hoping that we're sort of putting back the curtain a bit. 502 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,680 But actually you, you can wear what you want. 503 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280 And, and somebody very senior there said to me the other day, 504 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,800 you know, if I achieved one thing in my life that, you know, 505 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,040 will make me happy, it's that people know that Saudis open, 506 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,120 that women are free and you can buy what you want. 507 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,120 I mean, the change is is phenomenal since I was there God 508 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:14,640 10 years ago. Oh really? 509 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,920 And it was proper. You know, you put your burka on, 510 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,880 on the plane your, you know, your. 511 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,000 What were you doing there? I was doing trunk show. 512 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,200 Oh, were you? Yes. 513 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,360 And Jeddah. That is amazing. 514 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,960 Amazing, amazing. But seeing how it's all opened 515 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,760 up and changed is is really, really exciting for women. 516 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,160 I. Think it really is. 517 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,400 I, I sort of couldn't stress that more. 518 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,680 It's phenomenal. What's what's happening and how 519 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,760 quickly? When do you feel that you really 520 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,960 discovered your style, DNA, who you are, you know what your, 521 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,400 what your look is? I was thinking about this the 522 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,400 other day and I that we will evolve, we will make mistakes. 523 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:02,600 Got I was some shocking things when I was a teenager, but I 524 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,520 think I've always been someone who's like my mother, quite 525 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,200 polished, quite put together, makes an effort not to fussy. 526 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,840 You know, quite a lot of black, but you know, a bit of blush a 527 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,840 little, you know, a bit of femininity. 528 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,960 And that's sort of, sort of been the way for a long time. 529 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,400 I actually found an article the other day. 530 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,440 It was in the Daily Mail the year I started Sherlocks and it 531 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,920 was about something to do with tax relief and entrepreneurs or 532 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,840 something. And I was so out of my depth 533 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,880 being interviewed by the Daily Mail on this topic. 534 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,880 But somehow it came to me as an opportunity for a bit of PR and 535 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,360 I took it and they came to our tiny little one bedroom flat 536 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,880 where I started Sherlocks on a table literally half the size of 537 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,720 this Laura and I used to work. And he came and photographed me 538 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:57,960 and I am wearing in that photo a blush pink sort of ruffled top 539 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:04,600 with a black V-neck cashmere jumper and a pair of pale 540 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,400 earrings. And I could sort of wear all 541 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,720 that. Now, I wouldn't wear AV neck 542 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,280 cashmere jumper with something underneath and I would 543 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,840 definitely have worn it probably 3 sizes bigger than it was. 544 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,360 And I probably wouldn't be wearing the same pale earrings. 545 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,320 But you know, it's quite timeless. 546 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,680 So I would say my style is quite timeless, you know, cheap but 547 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,400 modern, hopefully, and not too fussy, not too complicated. 548 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,840 And you know, I think I mentioned earlier, you know, 549 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,000 when I was at university, I'd be in my trackie bombs. 550 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,800 People used to say, good, how do you make trackie bombs look 551 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,160 stylish? And I just think I'd, I'd put 552 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,920 them with a nice jacket and I had a bit of makeup on and it 553 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,560 was sort of pulled together. And I think that's I've been 554 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,000 like that forever, I think. How would you want someone to 555 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,960 describe your style DNA in three words? 556 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,240 Modern classic can I have put together? 557 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,160 Yeah, I like that. That's you. 558 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,760 That that's you. Fundamentally, Who do you think 559 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,000 you dress for? I dress to be the person I want 560 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,160 to be perceived as. I think that was the question, 561 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,520 yeah. Do you think? 562 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,400 I think it's part of our personality, how we dress as 563 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,400 part of our personality. You know, it's the first thing 564 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,760 you see. It's the first thing you judge 565 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,720 someone on. I yeah, it's an extension of who 566 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,480 I am. What do you reach for when you 567 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,000 want to feel empowered? I mean, definitely heels. 568 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,320 I know that's I think that's a cliche. 569 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,720 And heel of choice. Oh, I mean, I'm quite a shoe 570 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,320 girl. OK. 571 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,480 I'm quite a shoe girl. I am. 572 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,480 I'm quite a sailor or shoe girl. I love shoes, but I love to keep 573 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,000 wearing shoes. You know, I have. 574 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,800 I wore a pair of Gianvito Rossi shoes the other day that I wear 575 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,240 probably a couple of times a year. 576 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,960 They're brilliant with everything. 577 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800 I've had them for 10 years. There's something fantastic 578 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,040 about putting that heel on that you love. 579 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,200 You look, it looks sexy on your foot and you. 580 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,720 Change. The way you walk and. 581 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,760 There are certain shoes that you put with anything, you know, 582 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,080 jeans in a white T-shirt, even with a sort of floral dress, not 583 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,360 that I really wear them. And, and it just transforms it 584 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,800 instantly. And and you carry yourself so 585 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,040 differently. Yeah. 586 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,400 Would you say age is a consideration as to how you 587 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:32,000 dress? My knees are, you know, Hodge, 588 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,280 my great friend, and colleagues. Like the windows closing, you 589 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,160 know that's good. I'm talking about age. 590 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,280 What are you? What's your views on tweetments? 591 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,120 Go for it. Why not? 592 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,160 And you know, but I'm a believer in makeup. 593 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,040 You know, my mother always said to me, we need our makeup. 594 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,360 We, you know, we need to put our face on. 595 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,280 I definitely do. Some people are so naturally 596 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,160 beautiful. They don't. 597 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,800 But, you know, save the treatment. 598 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,480 It's just not too much. I say to girlfriends, if you 599 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,080 catch me looking like that, can you just lock me in the cupboard 600 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,000 until. You know, and what would like 601 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,800 that be? Too, too much lip, too much 602 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,840 filler. Yeah, filler in your lips and 603 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,080 your face. Too much of that is no good 604 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,200 luck. Now you are phenomenally busy. 605 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,040 Is your wardrobe equally phenomenally organized? 606 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:27,360 It's quite organized, Yeah, Colour item, I mean. 607 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,960 Have you ever used a stylist in to just help you organize or 608 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,720 pack or any of that? No, I often think I should, but 609 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,640 I also often think I often think I should, but I often think I'd 610 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,800 be cheating. Can I really be the founder of 611 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,560 Sherlock and user stylist? I'm not sure I could sleep at 612 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,240 night. Yeah. 613 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,400 So how do you how do you plan your looks? 614 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,960 I don't really. No, I don't. 615 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,600 I get up in the morning and I look at the weather. 616 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,360 I mean that's the problem is that then you get into the 8020 617 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,280 or 2080 rule, don't you, of just wearing 20% of your wardrobe all 618 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,360 the time. I do try and force myself to 619 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,199 wear different things, to wear things that I love that I 620 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,120 haven't for ages actually. I know, I know. 621 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,320 You're going to ask me what one of my most treasured pieces in 622 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,320 my wardrobe is. And I went to a dinner party on 623 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,040 Saturday and I'd been in the Middle East last week and I was 624 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,080 doing filming some content at Bloomingdale's, doing a bit of a 625 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,400 try on. And I was in the Dolce and 626 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,560 Gabbana pop up and they had this amazing sort of corset top 627 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,800 similar to one someone had been wearing at an event the night 628 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,000 before. And I thought, oh, that's really 629 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,760 hot. And that's really cool. 630 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,600 And I was like, oh, maybe I should get it. 631 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,199 Maybe I should get it. And then I remembered that in my 632 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:53,920 wardrobe was a Dolce Gabbana top that my husband bought me when I 633 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,080 was at Edinburgh University from Jenna's. 634 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,520 Don't know if it's still there. Which is the department store I. 635 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,400 Remember Jenna's back in the day? 636 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:05,920 And I wore it to a dinner on Saturday night and they hadn't 637 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,160 worn it for literally like a decade. 638 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,520 Fantastic, because the worst thing is realizing when it's too 639 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,400 late that you have repeat, bought something. 640 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,440 I know, I know. So yeah, I think it is really 641 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,080 important to take a bit of time. I don't do it enough. 642 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,840 But in answer to your question, yeah, I don't do it enough. 643 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,400 I get up, I'm what am I going to wear? 644 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:32,160 And but I think when you have a bit of a uniform, that's quite 645 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,520 easy, yeah. It doesn't take you into new 646 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,760 territory or make your outfits terribly interesting, I would 647 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,480 say. So occasionally I'll think, 648 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,200 right, I've got something important tomorrow, what am I 649 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,040 going to wear? Or if I'm going to the Middle 650 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,600 East, it's very much planned. That said, I, I fly on Sunday 651 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,520 and I haven't worked out. Yeah, I'm there for a week, so. 652 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,680 I mean, let's talk about travel for a second. 653 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,320 Do you? Are you very aware of your 654 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,440 airport? Look what you're travelling in. 655 00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,520 I said of again, I have a uniform. 656 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:04,400 And what is that uniform? So it's either shiny leggings. 657 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,040 And not too hot on a plane. No, I'm never hot on the plane. 658 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,880 Actually, sometimes at night. No, either shiny leggings or 659 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,720 trackies. Yeah, and. 660 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,800 A trackie brand of choice. Are you a cashmere trackie? 661 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,000 No, I'm a, I'm a regular. What is it? 662 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,960 What is the tracksie made of? Cotton. 663 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,680 Cotton, Yeah. No, I'm not great. 664 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,000 It tends to be great. People be very disappointed if 665 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,040 I, if I, you know, pasted my epaulets every time because 666 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,560 they're pretty much the same. You a good Packer or a bad 667 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,920 Packer? I'm a very methodical Packer and 668 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,000 I tell you I'm a very methodical Packer. 669 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:48,080 When I come home, so I have my washing in a segment, I've 670 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,440 cleared out every bag. I have everything neatly for I'm 671 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,040 very when I get home. So I got home at 6:30 AM on 672 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,320 Friday morning and got back into bed for two hours sleep. 673 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,400 But before I did that, I had to unpack everything. 674 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,040 Every bag has to go away. Every pair of sunglasses and 675 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,960 love shoes. Is that a hangover of boarding 676 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,800 school? Maybe, or just being quite anal. 677 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,400 I. Think efficient as well. 678 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,960 You know, I'm Scorpio, I think when I get home. 679 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,680 Because you're sounding very like a Virgo. 680 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:24,920 Oh, am I, but I'm in mad. I'm back. 681 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,680 And we got back from a three-week holiday with the 682 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:32,120 children at the end of August and we got home at 1:30 AM and 683 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,680 we had please. Don't tell me you unpack them. 684 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,080 Oh my. God, I did. 685 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,800 I can't. Not. 686 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,280 My husband's like, let's just leave till tomorrow. 687 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,640 I was like, yeah. And then I was like, can you put 688 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,200 the children to bed? Quick, quick, quick, quick. 689 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,200 But I had, oh, I had two suitcases. 690 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,320 Just with dirty washing. All the children's things were 691 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,680 in exactly the right. But yeah, I have to. 692 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,080 I have to, you know, you leave their suitcase for a week like 693 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,480 that. Makes me spin. 694 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,960 I'm sort of with you. I like to get home, get it out, 695 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,000 and then yeah, move on. Yeah, move on. 696 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,120 What luggage do you use? Away Which? 697 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,000 Brand, would you say is your guilty secret? 698 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,200 Guilty. I don't know about that. 699 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,040 I'm sort of quite proud to shop, I tell you. 700 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,160 I tell you where I shop the other day, it's not that big a 701 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,520 deal. But I was in Primark getting my 702 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,600 daughter some things for school. She wanted a load of Knick 703 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:31,440 knacks for her dorm, so we went there and their sort of Skims 704 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,080 dupes, their bodies, their stretchy ribbed bodies are 705 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,760 amazing. I've been back and got three 706 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,600 more. I got one. 707 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,320 I thought I'll try it. So it's a sort of quite a thick 708 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,480 strap body. Yeah, stretchy white, I can't 709 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,560 remember how much, but like £10. Nothing so good. 710 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:54,440 And if I would say to you, Georgie, you can only dress in 711 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,720 two brands for the rest of your life, 1 High Street, one 712 00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:00,200 designer, what would those two brands be? 713 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:06,680 Oh, Amanda Salaro. I thought you might have said 714 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,680 that. Can I have Massimo DT? 715 00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:11,800 You can have. I think I'd have mass made duty. 716 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,240 Now that's a. Mass made duty studio, which is 717 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,640 not really High Street. OK, mass made duty studio. 718 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,280 I'll let you cheat. I'll let you cheat. 719 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,640 What is the most expensive item of clothing that you've ever 720 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,160 bought? I'm not asking for the price 721 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,840 tag, I'm. Going to think you'd be 722 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,840 disappointed with the price tag probably. 723 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,960 I'm quite, I really, I've really, really consciously like 724 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,160 a lot of people started to buy a lot less and I really mean a lot 725 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,440 less than I used to. And then I will suddenly go and 726 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,360 buy sort of four quite expensive pieces, but. 727 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,480 Where will you buy them? I mean I shop at net a lot for 728 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,840 ease just because you know, I get a good discount. 729 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,120 I get same day delivery. It's really easy. 730 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,400 Returns is so easy. I don't really get out and shop 731 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,120 very much if I'm honest, you know, Occasionally I'll pop in 732 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,120 somewhere on the way back from a meeting, but I don't really have 733 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,760 time. I was going to ask, do you get 734 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,680 out to shop because you must see such a flow of beautiful 735 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,400 clothing, both High Street and designer, coming through the 736 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,240 door, the revolving door of. Sherlock's that I see 737 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:30,000 everything, but my role is, is, you know, I'm not touching all 738 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,960 of that like others are. So it's probably harder for 739 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,400 them. And that snow blindness is 740 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,800 definitely real. So no, I'm quite an online 741 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,360 shopper. And then suddenly if I, if I'm 742 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,640 somewhere, I'll, you know, I'll shop. 743 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,400 We were filming at Vista the other day and before I knew I 744 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,800 bought. What did you buy? 745 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,960 I bought this T-shirt because I tried it on. 746 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,840 You see, that's the thing. I've been wanting to try it on 747 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,280 for ages. Someone said it's a really good 748 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,640 shape. It's a really good shape. 749 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,840 I bought a pair of jeans from Margiela. 750 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,320 I bought some Manila Blahniks and I bought a bag and we take 751 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,640 Vanessa and you know, I do not do that every day. 752 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:08,520 Yeah, at all. Let's talk about sustainable 753 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,160 fashion. What's your approach? 754 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,280 Buying nice and better. I mean, it's not new, is it? 755 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,360 But it it's so the way forward. And I think I was talking to 756 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,080 someone the other day and and they said, what should I want? 757 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,680 What do you think of this? I wore it to. 758 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,800 And I said, I think this it's so different now. 759 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,480 You really wear the same thing again with pride. 760 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,480 Yeah. And we had a we had a blush 761 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,440 event recently with all the blush talent. 762 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,200 And I wore, I can't remember the brown, which is really annoying. 763 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,360 Is it Kate? Can't remember. 764 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,920 But anyway, I wore a dress that I've probably worn publicly. 765 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,280 Got to sound like a Dick, but I don't mean to. 766 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,800 Sort of four Times Now. Ten years ago, you would not. 767 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,440 That would have. Mattered, it would have mattered 768 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:56,160 and yeah, I think it's I I really wear things again with 769 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,600 pride and. Where would you go for pre 770 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,400 loved? What are your? 771 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,160 I like Celier. Yeah. 772 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,760 Festia they're probably the two two I would mainly go to. 773 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,080 What do you do with your clothes when you've had enough of them? 774 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:17,120 I give quite a lot to friends, quite a lot to charity, sent 775 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,040 quite a lot to Smart Works recently. 776 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,400 Yeah, which is a great charity. Yeah. 777 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,760 What would you say is the oldest piece in your wardrobe? 778 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,640 The Gucci Gigi, I think it's the Jackie. 779 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,800 It's the Jackie that my mother bought me with a purple with a 780 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,760 personalized number plate for my 21st. 781 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,880 Oh I love it. Talking bags. 782 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:45,200 What's your view on the price point of the current IT bags? 783 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:51,960 Tell Wild, Wild. I'm carrying today a Totem bag 784 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:58,400 over there, which is a really, really good bag. 785 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,640 It's in lots of colours. Lots of people have it. 786 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,640 I bought it. I want to. 787 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,440 Was it a year ago? Not quite. 788 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,320 I think it was, was it 800? And I was like, gosh, that's a 789 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,080 bargain. That's crazy, isn't? 790 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,640 It it's crazy that we're thinking. 791 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,160 That's what I mean is that we're programmed to think like you can 792 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,960 spend so much more. What's your view when you see a 793 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:32,440 woman with a crocodile Birkin? Well, I have a phobia. 794 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,280 Well I have a phobia of reptiles so that the idea of a crocodile 795 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,240 well. Your husband is very grateful 796 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:40,880 for that. I would. 797 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,800 This amazing woman sent me a snakeskin bag not long ago and I 798 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,680 had to send it back to her and say I'm so touched but I can't 799 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,360 bear waist. Let's spin on some quick fire 800 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,240 questions. So quick answers fashion advice 801 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:55,880 that you'd give your 20 year old self. 802 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,640 Ignore the sizing. Like that fashion trend you'd 803 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,200 most like to see make a comeback? 804 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,320 I'd say sort of, well, I mean, it is back, isn't it? 805 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,800 Sort of 80s, nineties power dressing is, you know, it's 806 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,800 wonderful that that's back. Fashion trend you'd like to 807 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,520 consign to Room 101 or beauty trend? 808 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,960 Sun in this is actually my hair colour. 809 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,520 I used to bleach it. Blunder than this. 810 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,800 It's amazing, Awful, your last impulse buy. 811 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:35,360 Some Laura pianos on holiday. Views on tattoos. 812 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,480 I have one, I really want another. 813 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,920 And what would it be be my children's initials on the side 814 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,000 of my wrist? Beauty treatment you couldn't 815 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,760 give up. Treatments. 816 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,400 Can I say that? You can say that high end or 817 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,760 High Street. High end. 818 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:01,320 Bling or bear? Sometimes more is more. 819 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,400 Sometimes you want the earrings and necklace. 820 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,160 Yeah, you know, I think, I think if you're being intelligent, 821 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,720 you'd say bad. But actually, there's something 822 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:10,280 great about getting dressed up like a Christmas. 823 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:16,440 Tree minimalism or maximalism? Maximalism, Crocs cute or puke 824 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:22,080 puke puke puke puke puke. Sneakers or stilettos? 825 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:26,160 Stilettos. Skinnies or boyfriends or wide 826 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,760 legs? And boyfriends are quite wide, 827 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,800 aren't they? The latter half. 828 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,400 Body con or boho Body con? Red carpet or relax? 829 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:42,200 I'm so relaxed. I mean, I'm, I'm not a sort of 830 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,760 industry events gal. Trend or style? 831 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,000 Style. Colour or monochrome? 832 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:55,280 Monochrome, experimental or UU? Cashmere or cotton? 833 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,880 Cashmere? Shapewear or sexy lingerie? 834 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,320 Lingerie. Tights or stockings? 835 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,160 Don't really wear either quite like a polka dot tight though. 836 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,720 Bikini or one piece? One piece? 837 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,520 Beanie or Berry? Oh, neither. 838 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,640 And finally, at the end of the day, what do you or don't you 839 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:24,040 wear in bed? Piglet linen PJS for years I 840 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,280 will nothing. Then Lou, our fashion director, 841 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,320 introduced me to Piglet in bed and trust me, you won't regret 842 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,640 it. I'm so wrong. 843 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,920 Piglet in bed Heaven. Georgie, thank you for making 844 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,480 the time to come and have this conversation with me today. 845 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,480 I have loved it. I've loved talking all things 846 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,280 style and fashion with you. Thank you so much having me been 847 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,840 great fun. What fun.